WEBVTT - CULTS - FOR FACTS SAKE PODCAST. 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Hi, it's wheezy. No, this isn't a Horrible Decisions episode. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.840 But a few months ago, I started a fun pod 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.400 with my friend Eddie dellas Seppi and I haven't dropped 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:10.760 some content on this speed in a while, and I 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.920 feel like y'all will really love this episode. So Eddie 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.280 and I came up with a concept for for fact 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.600 sake to be an educational podcast where basically we google 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.520 the ship out of a topic so you don't have to. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.759 You guys have about twenty episodes to binge if you like. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:30.800 We've done money, Animals, Weird Laws, Will Smith, Eggs, Tiger Kings, Twins, 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.000 Random Ship. But this week we talk about cults and 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.479 when I tell you, I thought this was some WPS, 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.320 turns out black people got a cult to Who knew 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.640 y'all are really gonna love this. It's fun as ship, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.920 and honestly, Eddie's a way better comedian than I am, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.640 so that's really what amps to shut up. If your 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.040 board binge it, if you feel like listening, now check 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 it out. And if you're a mother Factor, you're welcome 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.560 because our episodes normally come out on Tuesday. But you're 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:12.200 getting some brands banking, new baby enjoying for fact Safe podcast. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:27.000 You mother Factors. Hey, what's going on? And everybody, thanks 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.760 so much for tuning into facts sake. 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We're just like 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.000 really funny and like we have like great personalities, you 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.760 know what I mean. Like he lives in l A. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.359 Like it's just her riot and so I'm like honestly 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.480 elated or whatever. This sounds like one of my first 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:18.760 I when I used to go on first dates in 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.920 l A when I first moved there. Like so you do. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.600 It's like you're an actor. No you're not, but like 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:30.079 comedy is offensive, and that's offensive. I'm like, okay, did 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.640 you ever do did you ever do dating apps in 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.400 New York? I'm sure you did so. I am obsessed 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.120 with dating apps. Really. I think the majority of guys 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.840 I've sucked in the last five years living in New 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:45.240 York came from dating apps and women, Wow, which ones 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.120 were you on? Riya was the last one. I was 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:53.960 on Bumble, Hinge, Tinder, pal venmol oh Man, No, My Sugar, Daddy, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.880 Dad Cash. But I was on Let's see when I 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.440 was a real broke, I was on Seeking Arrangement. I 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:05.400 was an app called What's Your Price? What Dude? These 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.520 guys would like pay to go on dates with me, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.400 and it was like they were so ugly and it 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.040 was never like a lot of money. I lived in 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.280 Land at the time. It was like oh yeah, eight 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.000 bucks or whatever, and they would just like pay me 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.400 to go eat. I was on you know, I was 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:29.600 on a Hinge, Tinder, Bumble fuck j Swipe, Uh no, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:34.040 I don't um, but yeah, dating apps were not the 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.800 idea we should do one day an episode on dating 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.400 apps because we talked about it, and remember I was like, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.080 I feel like we're not going to get enough facts. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.760 But I think now that I'm thinking about it, like 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.520 we could just pick certain apps we could do this, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.880 We could do dating apps, we could and then it 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.000 would probably spark stories from like dates we've had and 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.880 like oh my god, I met a guy off this one, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.200 or oh my god, I knew something. There's there's a 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.320 for fact sake I wanted to do recently, and my 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:56.800 friend looked at me and she was like, are you 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.680 out of your fucking mind? So, for those of you 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.160 who don't know, I'm my father's Israeli and I was 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.040 raised Jewish and only saying that to like keep myself 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.880 from getting canceled. So I've been watching Unorthodox on Netflix 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.760 and every time, oh my god, amazing. Right, we talked 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.320 about it on here. We were talking about how we 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.080 both cried at the end. So like every time I've 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:15.680 in Williamsburg, I'm like, oh my god, this is just 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.800 like they're they're right here. This is real. Right. I 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.880 was like, we got to do an episode on the Jews. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:25.560 She's like, no, you don't, bitch, She's like, absolutely not. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.400 And I was like, well it doesn't count because technically 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.279 I am, but then she's like, no, no one cares, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.640 So we should definitely do a religion one. And I 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.440 think when we do that Jews segment, oh baby, I'll 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.360 let you handle that one. I'm just gonna get back 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.360 and not my head like yes, you know what it is, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.680 have such like much like Islamic religion. I feel like 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.000 I don't need too many Catholics or Christians that are 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.160 like they follow principles from hundreds of years ago. So 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.000 when seeing someone just in modern time in New York 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.880 City and you're right next to the guy who's like 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:07.839 playing pop smoke and you know, and I just it's 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.400 always like, oh my god, this is real. It's like 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:17.240 Shabbat every day. It's so interesting whenever I see anyone 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.560 of Hasidic sort of origin walking around New York City. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.400 When I was there, all I kept thinking was are 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:28.479 you you're You're hot? Right, you're warm? You you must 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:34.560 be sweating, you're fitzing you got And I can tell 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.200 you this, my mom wears a wig. I have worn 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.039 wigs in the summertime. You cannot. And when I see 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.080 these women in wigs and masks, I'm like, I want 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:46.919 to take them both off for you girl, I get you. Um, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.360 what a great segue into our topic, which is cults. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.320 We're talking about religion, talking about cults now before we 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.919 get into the topic, usually do fax about each other, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.640 but I want to get an opinion from you. Now. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.120 Usually a cult leader someone who's captivating, who's captured the 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.240 imagination of a group of people, whether they're vulnerable or 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.719 they're sort of people that are easily influenced. That being said, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.120 there are people out there that are that, these cold leaders, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.200 I mean they captivated a group of people to believe 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:24.520 what they believe. Give me a celebrity, a person, an artist, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.920 whoever that you if they weren't famous, they're so charming 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.600 captivated that do you think they could they could have 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:34.680 let a cult Beyonce because technically, oh wait wait past 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.719 for presents in at any point, at any point yeah Beyonce. Um, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.400 just one second, want to move this to make sure 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.680 it doesn't get to the mic. Beyonce, absolutely, because like 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.800 I actually have a candle with her face on it, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.320 and she looks like Jesus, and I feel like there's 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.200 no one else I worship that's like a celebrity like Beyonce. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.240 I mean, it's actually quite disgusting. But I've called her bess. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.599 You know that's a really do you have a candle 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.400 for her too? If you like? This is the kind 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.440 of part I'm talking about. If she wasn't famous, you 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.159 would you still look up to her? I think you 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.320 would if if just someone who would like you just 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.840 know through a friend like, oh, I want to be 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.680 her best friend. Not to mention, like, I think Beyonce 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.160 has a lot of ideals we like she represents sisterhood, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.280 girl power. She's a mom, she's a wife, but she's 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.360 still sexy, Like you're so enamored by someone like that. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.960 And she's an activist so that's like those other things too, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.360 and she's hot. But Will Smith was the other one 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.080 that was on my on my mind just now. Actually 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.720 really you think, like you just met Will Smith was like, Hey, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.480 you want tohow me fifty bucks, you'd be like yes, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.400 Like how could you not? It's Will the Fox Smith, Dude. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:47.240 I get entangled with that guy for sure. I think 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.680 Ryan Reynolds could start a start a cult if he 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:55.280 wasn't famous either, either. Ryan, if they're just like they're 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.760 just Ryan. Ryan Reynolds is the guy who's like played 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.000 a green lantern. He's like the funny one. Yes he 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:06.840 played Deadpool. Yes, he's just so good looking guy charming. God, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.000 they look alike. I know, all these hot white guys, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.600 but like Ryan Goslin looked at me the eyes like 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.360 you're really funny and do you mind driving me somewhere? 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.600 Like yes, yes, And so you guys, you're gonna get 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.320 paid this week and um let me even my routing. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.720 Yeah yeah one second, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.680 don't mind like lending me like half the money make 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.480 this year, right, you want more than half. Just something 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.120 about these people that are so I'm not saying these 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.880 people could start a cult, but they have qualities of 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.040 people that could lead people, because for the most part, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.200 most people are mundane, right, Let's be honest, Like most 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.320 people we meet every day, they're not that memorable. But 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.120 there are moments where you do meet someone that's very striking, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.920 and that's a fucking cult leader right there. That's a 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.959 that's it's It's like, even if we're going to talk 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.080 about people that run for presidents or like run for 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.240 any kind of campaign, like they've all got some sort 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.360 of star power. Donald Trump could easily be a cult leader. Right. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.160 He makes you feel like Obama was just so cool. Man, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.959 He's just so cool. Okay. See, I feel like I 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.000 joined a cult of his on accident. Like he I'd 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.760 be playing pick up basketball with him and then next 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.960 thing and I'm like running his errands. Yeah, yeah, did 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.840 you did you? Did you tell her the right? Okay? Yeah? Um, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.600 make sure you get the tailored pants. Now we were 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.040 just he said. It was a great segue cults from 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.200 religion because a cult is a term that doesn't refer 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.280 to a religion at all, but it's more applied to 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.559 a social movement. So those who accept beliefs and rituals 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.120 a member of the religion after they accept it, so 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.679 outside of it, it's considered a cult. However, the word 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.120 cult means a sense to a system of virtual practices. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.800 It was first used in the early seventeenth century and 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.920 it was mean to paid homage to a certain divinity um, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.960 and cults came from the Latin word cultists, which means 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.559 worship um. But really, ac cult is just a newly 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.200 started religious movement. One thing I found really interesting the 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.280 founder of I Hop created a list to differentiate between 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:15.840 religious community and a cult. This why did. I tried 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.559 to figure it out, and I was wondering because like, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.679 like nothing was really factual that was popping up. So 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.720 I didn't want to get down what I saw, but 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.920 I was like, I wonder if they was coming in, Ah, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.679 I'm gonna trying to get a deployee. So one opposing 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.079 critical thinking and not by the way, when I read 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.480 that at first, I was like, oh, maybe they mean 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.320 like what everyone's thinking, mainstream thinking. No, it's opposing critical 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:42.280 thinking to isolating members and penalizing them for leaving, emphasizing 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:48.280 special doctrines outside the scripture, UH, seeking inappropriate loyalty to 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:56.640 their leaders, dishonoring the family unit, crossing biblical boundaries, um 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.360 of behavior versus sexual purity, and personal own a ship, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.640 which is normally what we have. But instead it's more 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.680 so like you follow what we say instead of winning 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.840 your own body and separation from the church. Which is 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.400 interesting because almost every cult I look up kind of 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.280 was like about God as we know him, Like even 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.600 Waco is like an offset of seventy adventice people. What 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.400 they do, what some of these cults do is they go, hey, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.520 you guys, like Jesus, well you know what I know 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:32.520 the guy and they're like, do you Broy Like I'm 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.079 like me him are close. I talked to him every week. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.320 I mean I could tell you what he tells me. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.120 And they're like please, and they're like boom. Look it's 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.480 like it's you know what it is. They can't be 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.040 a God, but they can be the God the guy. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.360 But between them and God and then which is I 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.520 don't want to say this, but like a reverend, a priest, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:56.280 someone who teaches scripture, but they but these cult leaders, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.200 they feel like, no, no, I'm not just teaching scripture. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.200 I am him persona. They're like God came to me, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.599 Like I mean any black church I've ever been to, 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.240 Like you know what God taught me is one. It's 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:10.000 like damn he was talking to you too. Like ship, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.360 I mean this ship is real. But um, I'm gonna 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.000 kick it off this week and start a little heavy, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.880 please heavy heavy, like the first day of a period. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:25.840 Please heavy. A lot of cults. So a lot of 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.240 cults that um, we I feel like we hear about 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.920 or like we're watching on fucking Netflix or whatever. It's 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.720 always someone dying, right, Like it's always some weird as 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.559 suicide and this one was super interesting to me. I 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:41.880 picked my favorite to suicide, so Heaven's Gate. Some of 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.240 you may have heard of it, some of you may not. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.000 Marshall Apple White and Bonnie Nettles, do they sound like 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.559 they're in a cult? Yes. In the seventies they were 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.880 a cult that had come a complicated belief set involving 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:58.120 alien spaceships and recycling of planet Earth. Interesting enough, kind 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:03.040 of like scientology. But anyway. After Bonnie died in eighty five, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.480 he took the group to further extremes In nineties seven, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.120 and he began claiming that a spacecraft was following the 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.240 hail Pop comet and it would carry the Heaven's Gate 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.320 members to the next level of existence. While renting a 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.120 home in San Diego, him and thirty eight followers died 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.520 by suicide by taking It's called Pheno bar Biddle fame 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.520 of Barbiddle mixed with apple sauce. Something weird about this 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.560 cauld They all wore the same uniform and Nike shoes, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.520 and they had five dollars and seventy five cents in 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.520 their pocket. I tried to find why they had that 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.560 amount of money, and nothing was consistent, so I didn't 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.360 want to add it to for fact's sake. However, Wait, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.160 they all had the same amount of money in their pockets, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:45.400 exactly five dollars seventy five cents, and it doesn't there's 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.680 nothing consistent as to why it's that amount. Um. But 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.120 the Heaven's Gate website still exists. It's maintained by two 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.080 of the followers originally. What's interesting about it is the 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.600 cult promise that members wouldn't have to die to ascend 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.720 to a higher plane. However, according to the BBC, members 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:05.400 were um told that they'd be I'm sorry. Members were 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.760 told they be able to exit their containers a k 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.040 their bodies without resorting to suicide. They hope to be 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.120 beamed up into space, taking their bodies with them into 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.280 the Next Level, as members called their version of the afterlife. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.440 In the eighties, when the Bonnie died of cancer and 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.680 when he amended the teachings, he was basically saying, they'll 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.040 be given a new body, um, and so that's how 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.600 he kind of got them to do the suicide. The 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.640 other weird thing about this one the next level was 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.840 a place without gender, and that led to castration. Him 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:42.600 and members underwent the procedure, and they to help ensure 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:49.400 they remain celibate for purity. And uh, here's what's interesting. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.480 Apple White who was fired. That's the guy who was 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.080 like made everybody killed themselves. He was fired as a 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.720 music professor at a University of St. Thomas, Okay in 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.080 the seventies after they learned he had sex with a 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.200 male student student. So he went to go seek a 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.640 cure for his homosexual urges. He wanted to find a 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.800 way to have a platonic relationship where he could develop 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.120 his full potential without sexual entanglements. Second time I've heard 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.000 that word this month. Castration, he believed would make it easier. Ultimately, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:26.400 the group insulted a strict no sex, no human level relationships, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:31.200 no socializing rule. What's up with these cults that say 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.560 no sex? Well, it's where some of them are either 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.160 no sex or funk everyone, right, It's either or or. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:38.760 Some of these cults what they do is they go 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.760 no sex except for me the leader. Ye like Waco 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.160 Like Waco Like yeah, Like it's it's just like they're 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.560 the centralized figures. Waco And I know that I just 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.000 asked you briefly the names of yours, but I didn't 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.880 want to cover the ones from Netflix because I feel 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.120 like those are the ones have been so publicized. Waco, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.800 like seventy something people died. You guys probably saw it. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.560 If you have a great documentary documentary where only they 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.960 could suck that leader and then the raj Nishe's from 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.360 Wild Wild Country, also amazing documentary. They were sucking on 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.280 the streets, they were fucking everywhere. They had a free everywhere. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.880 So it's like, I mean, if I had between cults, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.400 I'm gonna pick like the cults me too. Yeah, call 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.240 me crazy, but I'm not really into like, cut my 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.720 dick off for god cults. Do you want to be 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.680 an alien and give us your dick? Yeah? I do? Yeah? 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.920 Can I so wait this container quote unquote body will 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.120 have a new body? Will that new container have? Everybody 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.800 want to know where they put the dicks? Though I'm 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.920 looking for him, I'm just saying I want to know, like, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.360 once you cut one off, where's the guy does the 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.520 does the leader keep him in a drawer like my 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.560 mom used to keep my baby teeth. And he's like, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.240 I'll whip this ship out and send it to your 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.560 old fucking job. If you don't get in line. Dude. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.400 What did they used to call the guy in a 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.360 not it? Is it in cell? No? What's the word? 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.800 What when your dick is cut off? And they were, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.520 they would call him that on Game of Thrones. Oh, 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:10.800 I don't know. I don't watch The Game of Thrones 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.840 is too much? What are you a person? What the 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:20.879 fund is wrong? I'll join here? So Heaven's Gate. I 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.520 remember that growing up. I remember that the leader apple 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.879 Bomb is Apple Bomb or Applebeam Apple Gate. I remember 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.879 you saw his look in his eyes, apple boy, he 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.240 had such a glaze over his eyes. He looks so crazy. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.239 Look at the kind of guy that doesn't blink. Look 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.040 at that too, Like he looked crazy. Eunick, that's what 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:49.000 it's called. Yeah, And I remember watching the CNN show 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.119 a camera going into like the bunk beds and showing 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.879 all their Nike sneakers creeping up from the bottom of 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.639 the blanket. What's up with the Nike ship? Like there's 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.760 nothing consistent. Like I've been trying my best, like to 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.400 not speculate the facts, and I really could not find 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.960 something consistent. Maybe they went to like Ross and got 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.720 a like a lot on a deal. I mean, maybe 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.000 someone from Nike was in the call and he was 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:20.159 like and he's like, I got a hook up. The 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:26.000 Nike decade was the name of the shoe. Um it 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.879 says nothing. It just says there was a story of 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.120 a Nike employee that sold the shoes to Heaven's Gate 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.439 before the suicide. Um. But like yeah, they're not really 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.840 saying like why, but sneaker heads are collecting the shoe 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.879 because of it. Really yep. It says that the shoes 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.560 were worn by the cultists and like after it happened, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.080 like that shoe basically became like an item, a cult 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:59.639 collector's item. Oh my god, I feel you know, I 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.960 think help they cow manipulated. These people are think about that, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.760 like me and you or anybody really you ever like 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.760 you ever like go to like a you're trying to 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.960 buy a car, or you're or even we're talking last 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.320 time about like properties and stuff like that, and you 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.399 know someone's trying to pull something over you and you 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.480 can sense it. Well, here's the thing. When you're feeling 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.359 very lost, I think, or you don't feel like you 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.480 have a sense of home, Like for example, I was 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.920 actually thinking because when I read the words social movement 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:30.600 the only thing I could think of that I'm a 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.600 part of his Black Lives Matter, right, And I was 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.280 thinking to myself, like, this is extreme. But what if 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.639 someone was like, Yo, you can live on a compound 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.439 where it's only black people. We're all going to support 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.920 each other. The food will be tasty, the music will 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.199 be great. Like you come here, you're gonna feel like 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.120 your home. There's gonna be no racism. You're not gonna 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.000 have to worry about it. We're gonna have our own stores, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:58.639 We're gonna make our own community. Join it. Would I 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.240 be like, oh, that's sounds terrible. Or if I was 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.840 soup feeling super oppressed, if I felt like society hated 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.119 me for my black List and in blackness and I 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.159 had no sense of community, what I do that cult? 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.640 Lucky for me, I do feel a sense of community. 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.400 Lucky for me, I do feel empowerment through my blackness. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:23.400 But if I did it, could I join that cult? Right? 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.440 Because me saying that right now, it's like, oh, well, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.359 we're moving to Jamaica. Like it's sounds okay, you know 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.800 what I mean? So I feel like they've got to 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.560 be selling the dream. And what if you're already like 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.720 a believer of God, right you know? You know. I 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.080 was talking to buddy, but we're driving by the Scientology 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.359 building one time and I was like, man, how do 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.960 they I don't get it. I know it sounds ignorant 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.600 for me, but like or anybody, like, why are they 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.960 doing this? And he looked at me and he said, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.280 because you don't have to, because everything's laid out for you. 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.480 What do you mean? Like, there's some people that are 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.399 like have real worries like where am I to go 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.159 when I die? Where am I going to meet my 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.320 next Where am I gonna meet my wife? Where? How 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.679 am I going to raise my kids? Where am I 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.879 going to live? What am I gonna do? And then 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.040 and then someone says, I got it all figured out. 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.119 Your wife or husband's here. This is what you wear, 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.439 this is where you hang out. These are all your friends, 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.520 this is what you listen to too. You don't know 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:22.120 what to do with it. Your isolated or like you've 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.359 had an addiction. You feel lost. And then somebody in 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.160 a robe with Nike sneakers and hasn't blinked in two 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.160 weeks goes, why I'll help you, and they're like, Okay, 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.560 you know. Oh my god, dude, they probably these probably 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:39.120 these mothers. Probably that's everybody coming in here too late. 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:43.000 You already ain't doing too well ship dude. When speaking 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.280 of eye hoop, when I drove by an eyehopped, uh 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.920 actually yesterday and they're doing outdoor dining in l A 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.359 and they were eating in a parking lot of an 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.320 eye hoop at that point, just eat at home. Are 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.240 you fucking kidding me? What are you doing ie hooped 0:21:56.240 --> 0:22:00.199 parking lot? No? I don't mean like we just got 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.560 a couple of pancakes and some star foam boxes that 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.719