1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560
Speaker 1: Hi, it's wheezy. No, this isn't a Horrible Decisions episode.

2
00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,840
Speaker 1: But a few months ago, I started a fun pod

3
00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,400
Speaker 1: with my friend Eddie dellas Seppi and I haven't dropped

4
00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,760
Speaker 1: some content on this speed in a while, and I

5
00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,920
Speaker 1: feel like y'all will really love this episode. So Eddie

6
00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,280
Speaker 1: and I came up with a concept for for fact

7
00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,600
Speaker 1: sake to be an educational podcast where basically we google

8
00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,520
Speaker 1: the ship out of a topic so you don't have to.

9
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,759
Speaker 1: You guys have about twenty episodes to binge if you like.

10
00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,800
Speaker 1: We've done money, Animals, Weird Laws, Will Smith, Eggs, Tiger Kings, Twins,

11
00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,000
Speaker 1: Random Ship. But this week we talk about cults and

12
00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,479
Speaker 1: when I tell you, I thought this was some WPS,

13
00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,320
Speaker 1: turns out black people got a cult to Who knew

14
00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 1: y'all are really gonna love this. It's fun as ship,

15
00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,920
Speaker 1: and honestly, Eddie's a way better comedian than I am,

16
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,640
Speaker 1: so that's really what amps to shut up. If your

17
00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,040
Speaker 1: board binge it, if you feel like listening, now check

18
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040
Speaker 1: it out. And if you're a mother Factor, you're welcome

19
00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,560
Speaker 1: because our episodes normally come out on Tuesday. But you're

20
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:12,200
Speaker 1: getting some brands banking, new baby enjoying for fact Safe podcast.

21
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,000
Speaker 1: You mother Factors. Hey, what's going on? And everybody, thanks

22
00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,760
Speaker 1: so much for tuning into facts sake. I'm Eddie, This

23
00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,520
Speaker 1: is Wheezy, and this is the show where we take

24
00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,640
Speaker 1: a random topic and we google the facts so you

25
00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,800
Speaker 1: don't have to before we get into the episode. I

26
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,000
Speaker 1: want to personally thank everyone that downloaded stream. We hit

27
00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,280
Speaker 1: at a hundred thousand downloads. I wish we have that

28
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,480
Speaker 1: in dollars, but yeah, um, which is a great great

29
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760
Speaker 1: thing for a podcast, and we did it in under

30
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760
Speaker 1: twenty episodes, which is pretty pretty great if you think

31
00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,320
Speaker 1: of it. I never did know with my old podcast.

32
00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640
Speaker 1: Super exciting because we're not famous, and so I feel

33
00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 1: like so many famous people get like a bunch of

34
00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,120
Speaker 1: streams because they're famous, but we're not. We're just like

35
00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,000
Speaker 1: really funny and like we have like great personalities, you

36
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like he lives in l A.

37
00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,359
Speaker 1: Like it's just her riot and so I'm like honestly

38
00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 1: elated or whatever. This sounds like one of my first

39
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I when I used to go on first dates in

40
00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,920
Speaker 1: l A when I first moved there. Like so you do.

41
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,600
Speaker 1: It's like you're an actor. No you're not, but like

42
00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,079
Speaker 1: comedy is offensive, and that's offensive. I'm like, okay, did

43
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,640
Speaker 1: you ever do did you ever do dating apps in

44
00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,400
Speaker 1: New York? I'm sure you did so. I am obsessed

45
00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,120
Speaker 1: with dating apps. Really. I think the majority of guys

46
00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,840
Speaker 1: I've sucked in the last five years living in New

47
00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,240
Speaker 1: York came from dating apps and women, Wow, which ones

48
00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,120
Speaker 1: were you on? Riya was the last one. I was

49
00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,960
Speaker 1: on Bumble, Hinge, Tinder, pal venmol oh Man, No, My Sugar, Daddy,

50
00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,880
Speaker 1: Dad Cash. But I was on Let's see when I

51
00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,440
Speaker 1: was a real broke, I was on Seeking Arrangement. I

52
00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,400
Speaker 1: was an app called What's Your Price? What Dude? These

53
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,520
Speaker 1: guys would like pay to go on dates with me,

54
00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,400
Speaker 1: and it was like they were so ugly and it

55
00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,040
Speaker 1: was never like a lot of money. I lived in

56
00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Land at the time. It was like oh yeah, eight

57
00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000
Speaker 1: bucks or whatever, and they would just like pay me

58
00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,400
Speaker 1: to go eat. I was on you know, I was

59
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:29,600
Speaker 1: on a Hinge, Tinder, Bumble fuck j Swipe, Uh no,

60
00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't um, but yeah, dating apps were not the

61
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,800
Speaker 1: idea we should do one day an episode on dating

62
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,400
Speaker 1: apps because we talked about it, and remember I was like,

63
00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we're not going to get enough facts.

64
00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,760
Speaker 1: But I think now that I'm thinking about it, like

65
00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,520
Speaker 1: we could just pick certain apps we could do this,

66
00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,880
Speaker 1: We could do dating apps, we could and then it

67
00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,000
Speaker 1: would probably spark stories from like dates we've had and

68
00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,880
Speaker 1: like oh my god, I met a guy off this one,

69
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 1: or oh my god, I knew something. There's there's a

70
00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,320
Speaker 1: for fact sake I wanted to do recently, and my

71
00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,800
Speaker 1: friend looked at me and she was like, are you

72
00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,680
Speaker 1: out of your fucking mind? So, for those of you

73
00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,160
Speaker 1: who don't know, I'm my father's Israeli and I was

74
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,040
Speaker 1: raised Jewish and only saying that to like keep myself

75
00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,880
Speaker 1: from getting canceled. So I've been watching Unorthodox on Netflix

76
00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,760
Speaker 1: and every time, oh my god, amazing. Right, we talked

77
00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,320
Speaker 1: about it on here. We were talking about how we

78
00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,080
Speaker 1: both cried at the end. So like every time I've

79
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,680
Speaker 1: in Williamsburg, I'm like, oh my god, this is just

80
00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,800
Speaker 1: like they're they're right here. This is real. Right. I

81
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,880
Speaker 1: was like, we got to do an episode on the Jews.

82
00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,560
Speaker 1: She's like, no, you don't, bitch, She's like, absolutely not.

83
00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, well it doesn't count because technically

84
00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,279
Speaker 1: I am, but then she's like, no, no one cares,

85
00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,640
Speaker 1: So we should definitely do a religion one. And I

86
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,440
Speaker 1: think when we do that Jews segment, oh baby, I'll

87
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,360
Speaker 1: let you handle that one. I'm just gonna get back

88
00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,360
Speaker 1: and not my head like yes, you know what it is,

89
00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,680
Speaker 1: have such like much like Islamic religion. I feel like

90
00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't need too many Catholics or Christians that are

91
00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,160
Speaker 1: like they follow principles from hundreds of years ago. So

92
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000
Speaker 1: when seeing someone just in modern time in New York

93
00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 1: City and you're right next to the guy who's like

94
00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,839
Speaker 1: playing pop smoke and you know, and I just it's

95
00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,400
Speaker 1: always like, oh my god, this is real. It's like

96
00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Shabbat every day. It's so interesting whenever I see anyone

97
00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,560
Speaker 1: of Hasidic sort of origin walking around New York City.

98
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: When I was there, all I kept thinking was are

99
00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,479
Speaker 1: you you're You're hot? Right, you're warm? You you must

100
00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:34,560
Speaker 1: be sweating, you're fitzing you got And I can tell

101
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,200
Speaker 1: you this, my mom wears a wig. I have worn

102
00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,039
Speaker 1: wigs in the summertime. You cannot. And when I see

103
00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,080
Speaker 1: these women in wigs and masks, I'm like, I want

104
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,919
Speaker 1: to take them both off for you girl, I get you. Um,

105
00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,360
Speaker 1: what a great segue into our topic, which is cults.

106
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 1: We're talking about religion, talking about cults now before we

107
00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,919
Speaker 1: get into the topic, usually do fax about each other,

108
00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,640
Speaker 1: but I want to get an opinion from you. Now.

109
00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Usually a cult leader someone who's captivating, who's captured the

110
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,240
Speaker 1: imagination of a group of people, whether they're vulnerable or

111
00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,719
Speaker 1: they're sort of people that are easily influenced. That being said,

112
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,120
Speaker 1: there are people out there that are that, these cold leaders,

113
00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean they captivated a group of people to believe

114
00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:24,520
Speaker 1: what they believe. Give me a celebrity, a person, an artist,

115
00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920
Speaker 1: whoever that you if they weren't famous, they're so charming

116
00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,600
Speaker 1: captivated that do you think they could they could have

117
00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,680
Speaker 1: let a cult Beyonce because technically, oh wait wait past

118
00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,719
Speaker 1: for presents in at any point, at any point yeah Beyonce. Um,

119
00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,400
Speaker 1: just one second, want to move this to make sure

120
00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't get to the mic. Beyonce, absolutely, because like

121
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,800
Speaker 1: I actually have a candle with her face on it,

122
00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,320
Speaker 1: and she looks like Jesus, and I feel like there's

123
00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,200
Speaker 1: no one else I worship that's like a celebrity like Beyonce.

124
00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's actually quite disgusting. But I've called her bess.

125
00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,599
Speaker 1: You know that's a really do you have a candle

126
00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 1: for her too? If you like? This is the kind

127
00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,440
Speaker 1: of part I'm talking about. If she wasn't famous, you

128
00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,159
Speaker 1: would you still look up to her? I think you

129
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320
Speaker 1: would if if just someone who would like you just

130
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 1: know through a friend like, oh, I want to be

131
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,680
Speaker 1: her best friend. Not to mention, like, I think Beyonce

132
00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,160
Speaker 1: has a lot of ideals we like she represents sisterhood,

133
00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,280
Speaker 1: girl power. She's a mom, she's a wife, but she's

134
00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,360
Speaker 1: still sexy, Like you're so enamored by someone like that.

135
00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,960
Speaker 1: And she's an activist so that's like those other things too,

136
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360
Speaker 1: and she's hot. But Will Smith was the other one

137
00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,080
Speaker 1: that was on my on my mind just now. Actually

138
00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,720
Speaker 1: really you think, like you just met Will Smith was like, Hey,

139
00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,480
Speaker 1: you want tohow me fifty bucks, you'd be like yes,

140
00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400
Speaker 1: Like how could you not? It's Will the Fox Smith, Dude.

141
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:47,240
Speaker 1: I get entangled with that guy for sure. I think

142
00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds could start a start a cult if he

143
00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,280
Speaker 1: wasn't famous either, either. Ryan, if they're just like they're

144
00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,760
Speaker 1: just Ryan. Ryan Reynolds is the guy who's like played

145
00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,000
Speaker 1: a green lantern. He's like the funny one. Yes he

146
00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,840
Speaker 1: played Deadpool. Yes, he's just so good looking guy charming. God,

147
00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,000
Speaker 1: they look alike. I know, all these hot white guys,

148
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,600
Speaker 1: but like Ryan Goslin looked at me the eyes like

149
00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360
Speaker 1: you're really funny and do you mind driving me somewhere?

150
00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,600
Speaker 1: Like yes, yes, And so you guys, you're gonna get

151
00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,320
Speaker 1: paid this week and um let me even my routing.

152
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah one second, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you

153
00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,680
Speaker 1: don't mind like lending me like half the money make

154
00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,480
Speaker 1: this year, right, you want more than half. Just something

155
00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,120
Speaker 1: about these people that are so I'm not saying these

156
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,880
Speaker 1: people could start a cult, but they have qualities of

157
00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040
Speaker 1: people that could lead people, because for the most part,

158
00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,200
Speaker 1: most people are mundane, right, Let's be honest, Like most

159
00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,320
Speaker 1: people we meet every day, they're not that memorable. But

160
00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,120
Speaker 1: there are moments where you do meet someone that's very striking,

161
00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,920
Speaker 1: and that's a fucking cult leader right there. That's a

162
00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,959
Speaker 1: that's it's It's like, even if we're going to talk

163
00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,080
Speaker 1: about people that run for presidents or like run for

164
00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,240
Speaker 1: any kind of campaign, like they've all got some sort

165
00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,360
Speaker 1: of star power. Donald Trump could easily be a cult leader. Right.

166
00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,160
Speaker 1: He makes you feel like Obama was just so cool. Man,

167
00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,959
Speaker 1: He's just so cool. Okay. See, I feel like I

168
00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,000
Speaker 1: joined a cult of his on accident. Like he I'd

169
00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,760
Speaker 1: be playing pick up basketball with him and then next

170
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,960
Speaker 1: thing and I'm like running his errands. Yeah, yeah, did

171
00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,840
Speaker 1: you did you? Did you tell her the right? Okay? Yeah? Um,

172
00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 1: make sure you get the tailored pants. Now we were

173
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040
Speaker 1: just he said. It was a great segue cults from

174
00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,200
Speaker 1: religion because a cult is a term that doesn't refer

175
00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,280
Speaker 1: to a religion at all, but it's more applied to

176
00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,559
Speaker 1: a social movement. So those who accept beliefs and rituals

177
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,120
Speaker 1: a member of the religion after they accept it, so

178
00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,679
Speaker 1: outside of it, it's considered a cult. However, the word

179
00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120
Speaker 1: cult means a sense to a system of virtual practices.

180
00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,800
Speaker 1: It was first used in the early seventeenth century and

181
00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,920
Speaker 1: it was mean to paid homage to a certain divinity um,

182
00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,960
Speaker 1: and cults came from the Latin word cultists, which means

183
00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,559
Speaker 1: worship um. But really, ac cult is just a newly

184
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,200
Speaker 1: started religious movement. One thing I found really interesting the

185
00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,280
Speaker 1: founder of I Hop created a list to differentiate between

186
00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,840
Speaker 1: religious community and a cult. This why did. I tried

187
00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,559
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and I was wondering because like,

188
00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,679
Speaker 1: like nothing was really factual that was popping up. So

189
00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,720
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get down what I saw, but

190
00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if they was coming in, Ah,

191
00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to get a deployee. So one opposing

192
00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,079
Speaker 1: critical thinking and not by the way, when I read

193
00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,480
Speaker 1: that at first, I was like, oh, maybe they mean

194
00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,320
Speaker 1: like what everyone's thinking, mainstream thinking. No, it's opposing critical

195
00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 1: thinking to isolating members and penalizing them for leaving, emphasizing

196
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:48,280
Speaker 1: special doctrines outside the scripture, UH, seeking inappropriate loyalty to

197
00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:56,640
Speaker 1: their leaders, dishonoring the family unit, crossing biblical boundaries, um

198
00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,360
Speaker 1: of behavior versus sexual purity, and personal own a ship,

199
00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 1: which is normally what we have. But instead it's more

200
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,680
Speaker 1: so like you follow what we say instead of winning

201
00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840
Speaker 1: your own body and separation from the church. Which is

202
00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,400
Speaker 1: interesting because almost every cult I look up kind of

203
00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,280
Speaker 1: was like about God as we know him, Like even

204
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,600
Speaker 1: Waco is like an offset of seventy adventice people. What

205
00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400
Speaker 1: they do, what some of these cults do is they go, hey,

206
00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,520
Speaker 1: you guys, like Jesus, well you know what I know

207
00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:32,520
Speaker 1: the guy and they're like, do you Broy Like I'm

208
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,079
Speaker 1: like me him are close. I talked to him every week.

209
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean I could tell you what he tells me.

210
00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,120
Speaker 1: And they're like please, and they're like boom. Look it's

211
00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 1: like it's you know what it is. They can't be

212
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,040
Speaker 1: a God, but they can be the God the guy.

213
00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,360
Speaker 1: But between them and God and then which is I

214
00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,520
Speaker 1: don't want to say this, but like a reverend, a priest,

215
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,280
Speaker 1: someone who teaches scripture, but they but these cult leaders,

216
00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,200
Speaker 1: they feel like, no, no, I'm not just teaching scripture.

217
00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,200
Speaker 1: I am him persona. They're like God came to me,

218
00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,599
Speaker 1: Like I mean any black church I've ever been to,

219
00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,240
Speaker 1: Like you know what God taught me is one. It's

220
00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,000
Speaker 1: like damn he was talking to you too. Like ship,

221
00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean this ship is real. But um, I'm gonna

222
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000
Speaker 1: kick it off this week and start a little heavy,

223
00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880
Speaker 1: please heavy heavy, like the first day of a period.

224
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,840
Speaker 1: Please heavy. A lot of cults. So a lot of

225
00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240
Speaker 1: cults that um, we I feel like we hear about

226
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920
Speaker 1: or like we're watching on fucking Netflix or whatever. It's

227
00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,720
Speaker 1: always someone dying, right, Like it's always some weird as

228
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,559
Speaker 1: suicide and this one was super interesting to me. I

229
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,880
Speaker 1: picked my favorite to suicide, so Heaven's Gate. Some of

230
00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,240
Speaker 1: you may have heard of it, some of you may not.

231
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,000
Speaker 1: Marshall Apple White and Bonnie Nettles, do they sound like

232
00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,559
Speaker 1: they're in a cult? Yes. In the seventies they were

233
00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,880
Speaker 1: a cult that had come a complicated belief set involving

234
00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,120
Speaker 1: alien spaceships and recycling of planet Earth. Interesting enough, kind

235
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,040
Speaker 1: of like scientology. But anyway. After Bonnie died in eighty five,

236
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,480
Speaker 1: he took the group to further extremes In nineties seven,

237
00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 1: and he began claiming that a spacecraft was following the

238
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,240
Speaker 1: hail Pop comet and it would carry the Heaven's Gate

239
00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,320
Speaker 1: members to the next level of existence. While renting a

240
00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,120
Speaker 1: home in San Diego, him and thirty eight followers died

241
00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,520
Speaker 1: by suicide by taking It's called Pheno bar Biddle fame

242
00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,520
Speaker 1: of Barbiddle mixed with apple sauce. Something weird about this

243
00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,560
Speaker 1: cauld They all wore the same uniform and Nike shoes,

244
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,520
Speaker 1: and they had five dollars and seventy five cents in

245
00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,520
Speaker 1: their pocket. I tried to find why they had that

246
00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,560
Speaker 1: amount of money, and nothing was consistent, so I didn't

247
00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,360
Speaker 1: want to add it to for fact's sake. However, Wait,

248
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,160
Speaker 1: they all had the same amount of money in their pockets,

249
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,400
Speaker 1: exactly five dollars seventy five cents, and it doesn't there's

250
00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,680
Speaker 1: nothing consistent as to why it's that amount. Um. But

251
00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,120
Speaker 1: the Heaven's Gate website still exists. It's maintained by two

252
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,080
Speaker 1: of the followers originally. What's interesting about it is the

253
00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,600
Speaker 1: cult promise that members wouldn't have to die to ascend

254
00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,720
Speaker 1: to a higher plane. However, according to the BBC, members

255
00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,400
Speaker 1: were um told that they'd be I'm sorry. Members were

256
00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,760
Speaker 1: told they be able to exit their containers a k

257
00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,040
Speaker 1: their bodies without resorting to suicide. They hope to be

258
00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 1: beamed up into space, taking their bodies with them into

259
00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,280
Speaker 1: the Next Level, as members called their version of the afterlife.

260
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,440
Speaker 1: In the eighties, when the Bonnie died of cancer and

261
00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,680
Speaker 1: when he amended the teachings, he was basically saying, they'll

262
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,040
Speaker 1: be given a new body, um, and so that's how

263
00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,600
Speaker 1: he kind of got them to do the suicide. The

264
00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,640
Speaker 1: other weird thing about this one the next level was

265
00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,840
Speaker 1: a place without gender, and that led to castration. Him

266
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,600
Speaker 1: and members underwent the procedure, and they to help ensure

267
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:49,400
Speaker 1: they remain celibate for purity. And uh, here's what's interesting.

268
00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,480
Speaker 1: Apple White who was fired. That's the guy who was

269
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080
Speaker 1: like made everybody killed themselves. He was fired as a

270
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,720
Speaker 1: music professor at a University of St. Thomas, Okay in

271
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,080
Speaker 1: the seventies after they learned he had sex with a

272
00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,200
Speaker 1: male student student. So he went to go seek a

273
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,640
Speaker 1: cure for his homosexual urges. He wanted to find a

274
00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,800
Speaker 1: way to have a platonic relationship where he could develop

275
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,120
Speaker 1: his full potential without sexual entanglements. Second time I've heard

276
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,000
Speaker 1: that word this month. Castration, he believed would make it easier. Ultimately,

277
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,400
Speaker 1: the group insulted a strict no sex, no human level relationships,

278
00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,200
Speaker 1: no socializing rule. What's up with these cults that say

279
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560
Speaker 1: no sex? Well, it's where some of them are either

280
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,160
Speaker 1: no sex or funk everyone, right, It's either or or.

281
00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Some of these cults what they do is they go

282
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,760
Speaker 1: no sex except for me the leader. Ye like Waco

283
00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,160
Speaker 1: Like Waco Like yeah, Like it's it's just like they're

284
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,560
Speaker 1: the centralized figures. Waco And I know that I just

285
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,000
Speaker 1: asked you briefly the names of yours, but I didn't

286
00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880
Speaker 1: want to cover the ones from Netflix because I feel

287
00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,120
Speaker 1: like those are the ones have been so publicized. Waco,

288
00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,800
Speaker 1: like seventy something people died. You guys probably saw it.

289
00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,560
Speaker 1: If you have a great documentary documentary where only they

290
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,960
Speaker 1: could suck that leader and then the raj Nishe's from

291
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 1: Wild Wild Country, also amazing documentary. They were sucking on

292
00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,280
Speaker 1: the streets, they were fucking everywhere. They had a free everywhere.

293
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880
Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, if I had between cults,

294
00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick like the cults me too. Yeah, call

295
00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,240
Speaker 1: me crazy, but I'm not really into like, cut my

296
00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,720
Speaker 1: dick off for god cults. Do you want to be

297
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,680
Speaker 1: an alien and give us your dick? Yeah? I do? Yeah?

298
00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920
Speaker 1: Can I so wait this container quote unquote body will

299
00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,120
Speaker 1: have a new body? Will that new container have? Everybody

300
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,800
Speaker 1: want to know where they put the dicks? Though I'm

301
00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,920
Speaker 1: looking for him, I'm just saying I want to know, like,

302
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,360
Speaker 1: once you cut one off, where's the guy does the

303
00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520
Speaker 1: does the leader keep him in a drawer like my

304
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,560
Speaker 1: mom used to keep my baby teeth. And he's like,

305
00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,240
Speaker 1: I'll whip this ship out and send it to your

306
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,560
Speaker 1: old fucking job. If you don't get in line. Dude.

307
00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,400
Speaker 1: What did they used to call the guy in a

308
00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,360
Speaker 1: not it? Is it in cell? No? What's the word?

309
00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,800
Speaker 1: What when your dick is cut off? And they were,

310
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 1: they would call him that on Game of Thrones. Oh,

311
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't watch The Game of Thrones

312
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,840
Speaker 1: is too much? What are you a person? What the

313
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:20,879
Speaker 1: fund is wrong? I'll join here? So Heaven's Gate. I

314
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 1: remember that growing up. I remember that the leader apple

315
00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,879
Speaker 1: Bomb is Apple Bomb or Applebeam Apple Gate. I remember

316
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,879
Speaker 1: you saw his look in his eyes, apple boy, he

317
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,240
Speaker 1: had such a glaze over his eyes. He looks so crazy.

318
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,239
Speaker 1: Look at the kind of guy that doesn't blink. Look

319
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,040
Speaker 1: at that too, Like he looked crazy. Eunick, that's what

320
00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 1: it's called. Yeah, And I remember watching the CNN show

321
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,119
Speaker 1: a camera going into like the bunk beds and showing

322
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,879
Speaker 1: all their Nike sneakers creeping up from the bottom of

323
00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,639
Speaker 1: the blanket. What's up with the Nike ship? Like there's

324
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 1: nothing consistent. Like I've been trying my best, like to

325
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,400
Speaker 1: not speculate the facts, and I really could not find

326
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 1: something consistent. Maybe they went to like Ross and got

327
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 1: a like a lot on a deal. I mean, maybe

328
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 1: someone from Nike was in the call and he was

329
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 1: like and he's like, I got a hook up. The

330
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 1: Nike decade was the name of the shoe. Um it

331
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,879
Speaker 1: says nothing. It just says there was a story of

332
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,120
Speaker 1: a Nike employee that sold the shoes to Heaven's Gate

333
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,439
Speaker 1: before the suicide. Um. But like yeah, they're not really

334
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 1: saying like why, but sneaker heads are collecting the shoe

335
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,879
Speaker 1: because of it. Really yep. It says that the shoes

336
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 1: were worn by the cultists and like after it happened,

337
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 1: like that shoe basically became like an item, a cult

338
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 1: collector's item. Oh my god, I feel you know, I

339
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 1: think help they cow manipulated. These people are think about that,

340
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 1: like me and you or anybody really you ever like

341
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: you ever like go to like a you're trying to

342
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 1: buy a car, or you're or even we're talking last

343
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: time about like properties and stuff like that, and you

344
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 1: know someone's trying to pull something over you and you

345
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: can sense it. Well, here's the thing. When you're feeling

346
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 1: very lost, I think, or you don't feel like you

347
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: have a sense of home, Like for example, I was

348
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 1: actually thinking because when I read the words social movement

349
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: the only thing I could think of that I'm a

350
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 1: part of his Black Lives Matter, right, And I was

351
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, this is extreme. But what if

352
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 1: someone was like, Yo, you can live on a compound

353
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 1: where it's only black people. We're all going to support

354
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 1: each other. The food will be tasty, the music will

355
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 1: be great. Like you come here, you're gonna feel like

356
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 1: your home. There's gonna be no racism. You're not gonna

357
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. We're gonna have our own stores,

358
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna make our own community. Join it. Would I

359
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's sounds terrible. Or if I was

360
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: soup feeling super oppressed, if I felt like society hated

361
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: me for my black List and in blackness and I

362
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: had no sense of community, what I do that cult?

363
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: Lucky for me, I do feel a sense of community.

364
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: Lucky for me, I do feel empowerment through my blackness.

365
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 1: But if I did it, could I join that cult? Right?

366
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: Because me saying that right now, it's like, oh, well,

367
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: we're moving to Jamaica. Like it's sounds okay, you know

368
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I feel like they've got to

369
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: be selling the dream. And what if you're already like

370
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: a believer of God, right you know? You know. I

371
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: was talking to buddy, but we're driving by the Scientology

372
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: building one time and I was like, man, how do

373
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: they I don't get it. I know it sounds ignorant

374
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: for me, but like or anybody, like, why are they

375
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 1: doing this? And he looked at me and he said,

376
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: because you don't have to, because everything's laid out for you.

377
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like, there's some people that are

378
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: like have real worries like where am I to go

379
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: when I die? Where am I going to meet my

380
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: next Where am I gonna meet my wife? Where? How

381
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: am I going to raise my kids? Where am I

382
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: going to live? What am I gonna do? And then

383
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: and then someone says, I got it all figured out.

384
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: Your wife or husband's here. This is what you wear,

385
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: this is where you hang out. These are all your friends,

386
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: this is what you listen to too. You don't know

387
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: what to do with it. Your isolated or like you've

388
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: had an addiction. You feel lost. And then somebody in

389
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: a robe with Nike sneakers and hasn't blinked in two

390
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: weeks goes, why I'll help you, and they're like, Okay,

391
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: you know. Oh my god, dude, they probably these probably

392
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: these mothers. Probably that's everybody coming in here too late.

393
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: You already ain't doing too well ship dude. When speaking

394
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: of eye hoop, when I drove by an eyehopped, uh

395
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: actually yesterday and they're doing outdoor dining in l A

396
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: and they were eating in a parking lot of an

397
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: eye hoop at that point, just eat at home. Are

398
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? What are you doing ie hooped

399
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: parking lot? No? I don't mean like we just got

400
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: a couple of pancakes and some star foam boxes that

401
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 1: we ate on, like on the current. They had like

402
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: seating outside with the tent, and there's people out there

403
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: eating in the parking lot of an eyehop. I'm like,

404
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: take it home, eat it in your car. I'm disgusting. Like,

405
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: I'm like a hoop is just like at least let

406
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: me eat some luxurious with some plants around or something

407
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: the fucking strip mall parking lot. Imagine you're like eating

408
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: in a parking lot of an eye hoop and then

409
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: you just see like a fucking raccoon eating eating alongside

410
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: you have the same meal, Like, Okay, it's time to

411
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: go oh dude, I wanted to mention something. So I

412
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: was reading all about these colds right and all this ship,

413
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, there's some crazy white people

414
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: ship right. And then that made me say, I gotta

415
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: find a black cult. And there's like one, because I

416
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: feel like African Americans have a natural sense of suspicion

417
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: to people that think there's a ship? What makes you

418
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: the ship? Fuck you? They fucking run at every like

419
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: like something like Plus, some feel like black people are

420
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna tellone ship gets a little suspect, they're gonna be like,

421
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: you ain't about to get me, no, you know, and

422
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: they're like one guy's like, I'm more of a easy guy.

423
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm not really wearing these nights, so I think I'm

424
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: gone these ugly No. There's a if you've ever heard

425
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: of the Black Israelites, they were like dresses or whatever. Um, well,

426
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: it's called the Nation of Yahweh and they're like an

427
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: offshoot of them, um and there's like maybe members, but

428
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: it's I'm sorry dying out the lab. These guys basically

429
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: like they're always outside of the subway and they always

430
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: say some ships to me, like you don't need that

431
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: weave in your head, Queen, I'm like, you'll need that

432
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: fucking dress. Like, why are you talking about so rude?

433
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, wow, let's circle around this fucking disc jam.

434
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: I think African American, especially American black people, have a

435
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: sense of like, no, I don't really trust this, dude,

436
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: Whereas I feel like why people are like on inflamer

437
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 1: buying self infommercials, like oh my god, I have to

438
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: get this thing, you know, like, Okay, relax, Susan, you

439
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: don't need this, very very very I forgot about Heaven's Gate, dude,

440
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: I forgot about that one. That one was like a

441
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: wild one, and a lot of people died in that

442
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: fucking community. Where was it again? What Utah? Where was

443
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: it Utah? I don't know. Let me read m. San

444
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: Diego is where he rented the house. Wow, damn, they

445
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: died in San Diego. I mean that's not that that's

446
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: not too bad. No, I just thought of figured it

447
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: would be like some hicktown. Well. My first fact slash

448
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: cult is one that I've never heard of, and I

449
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: don't think you've ever heard of. It's called a remnant followship.

450
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: Reminant Fellowship is an organization that began in in Memphis, Tennessee,

451
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: as a weight loss program founded by Wo Shambling, a dietitian.

452
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: The program, called Way Down Way as in W E

453
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: I A I g H Workshop, use biblical principles to

454
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 1: help overweight people regain control their diets and their bodies.

455
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Way Down Workshops were wildly you widely used by many

456
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: evangelical churches across the country. Shamblin, the woman that ran,

457
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: Gwen Schamblin and and others who believed in these principles

458
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: began a church called the Remnant Fellowship Church in Nashville, Tennessee.

459
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: So their focus is upon strict and complete obedience to

460
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: God in every area. However, that obedience is often defined

461
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: as obedience to Gwen ship Shamblin. So basically, listen to

462
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: what I say because I'm listening to to God or

463
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: whoever you believe right uh. To criticize or disagree with

464
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 1: Shamblin in any area is to be out of the

465
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: will of God under oath. Shamblin stated, to accuse me

466
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: of being deceptive is very strong language because I've been

467
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: led by God to do this. So many former members

468
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: have been spoken out about the total control Gwen Shamblin

469
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: maintains over their lives of church members. They were not

470
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: allowed to read any material that was not written by her.

471
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: They were not to listen to any music except made

472
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: by her son, Michael Shamblin. Think about that, Are you

473
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? So it's like, hey, my SoundCloud rappers son.

474
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Every decision of the membership was to be approved by

475
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: rejected by Gwinn Chamblin. And it's still going on today

476
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: that they're still this sort of thing where like, see,

477
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: this is what happens, right, Like, you have someone that

478
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: changes your life. You're in a situation where like listen,

479
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: i feel like I need to lose weight, I'm losing control.

480
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: She helps you, and you, miraculously your body changes and

481
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: in a way to to them, you are a god

482
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: because you've transformed me. You've made me a better Stop

483
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: because nobody praying it any Craig. No, But there are

484
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: people that are dedicate to curbs. Uh the gym, dude.

485
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: But the way that some way watch your stuff sounds

486
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: though I know it's like it's like their bibles that

487
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: little pen people are very and when you meet someone

488
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: that's counting points or whatever, do you remember Oprah's commercial

489
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: about love bread. Remember that's really popular, Like she does

490
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: this fucking weight Watchers commercial and the way that she

491
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: talks about bread, it's like she wants to fuck it.

492
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: And people are like so enamored with Oprah and this ship,

493
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: and everybody felt like she became so relatable after this ship,

494
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: like it was so weird. Oh here it is, I

495
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: found it. Oprah loves bread on YouTube. There's like so

496
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: many lived. I don't deny myself bread. I have bread

497
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: every day, love bread. I have eaten bread every single day.

498
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: I have bread every day because I love bread. The

499
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: grainiest nuttiest seven grain, nine grain seed bread, one slice

500
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: of twelve grain bread. It's last very two points toes

501
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: crazy seven grain COEs. She's like, I love bread. I

502
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: have bread before bed. I have a bad getting in

503
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: my pussy right now. I have Like can you imagine

504
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: if you know who you lives with bread and then

505
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: you fucking see Oprah. I'm like, yeah, I'm joining this

506
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: ship too. They got you off bread girl. You ever

507
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: meet someone's like in ta keto like hardcore and takeyo man,

508
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I did it and I had to join a keto face.

509
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: I met a guy out here, and there's a lot

510
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: of these kind of dudes that was so in te keto.

511
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: He was he was making his own jerky and keeping

512
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: in his pockets every time he meets somebody. He was like,

513
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: why are you eating that man? You don't get him.

514
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: You don't know what's in that y Yeah, and he

515
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: would just look people in the im be like I

516
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: only eat eggs, deli meat, and and ground beef. That's it.

517
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, I've lost this munch pounds. I feel better,

518
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: I look better. I'm like, bro, you're not blinking you

519
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: ever done keto? I I have, but it's unsustainable. I

520
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: can't keep that life up. When I was about to

521
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: pass out at my last job, I remember this guy

522
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: that was heavy on keto and like he had a

523
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: bunch of protein paddle over. He just looked like a

524
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: fucking asshole. He was like, yeah during katosis, Now this

525
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: is what he's just like yelling at the streets. I

526
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: mat katos as No. But like it's a really weird

527
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: thing when people get like That's why I'm not shocked

528
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: that this could have started off of food, because when

529
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: people have a goal together, oh man, I mean like

530
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: that's why I joined that face group group. I felt

531
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: like I was going to die through katosis and I'm

532
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: watching people be like yeah, I'm throwing up too. I

533
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I feel you. You're my sister. I

534
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a CrossFit cult out there. I wasn't

535
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: surprised cross It already. Crossed Already is kind of a

536
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: cult if. I hate when people wear their shirts on vacation.

537
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Like you know, I cannot tell you how many times

538
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I've been foreign countries and seeing Americans with Crossfish shirts

539
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, like, kill the funk out wearing Monaco,

540
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: fucking shut up. Oh my god. When I was into Loom, dude,

541
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: we saw this guy with a Crossbit shirt and I

542
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, we get it. You love America, we

543
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: understand it. So I'm just a bitch like but like

544
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: he had no idea. I was trying to be a bit.

545
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: It's like one in the morning, We're at this bar,

546
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: and I just felt I was like, fuck it, let

547
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: me do it, because I kept seeing him over and over.

548
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: Because the ex fact community into Loom was very small

549
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: in the beginning of COVID right April, when nobody was there.

550
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: You count trap in Mexico, I mean, according to what

551
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: we thought. So I started talking to him at the

552
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: bar and I'm like, damn, I've been thinking about getting

553
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: across bit too. Like He's like, it's a lifestyle, is

554
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: what it is. And I thought, I was like really.

555
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: He was like, I mean, what's something you love? Remember

556
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: he said that to me, something you do for yourself

557
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: that you love because it makes you feel good? And

558
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: what is it? Do you have any sport? And I'm like,

559
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really trying to think hard. I'm like,

560
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: sucking dick. I don't know. Like He's like, all I

561
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: have is protein powder, I have battle ropes in my house.

562
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: I my girlfriend is a kettle bell. My girlfriend is

563
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: a kettle bell. So then I was like, well, what

564
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: do you what do you do now that you don't

565
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: have a gym? You don't need a gym with CrossFit,

566
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it. It is a you don't

567
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: need anything. You get box. I'm like flipping over a tire,

568
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm throwing I'm I'm throwing an axe. I'm hitting a

569
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: fucking sledgehammer on the grass. Don't you be noticing like

570
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: cross with people be short. Yeah, I feel like it's

571
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: just like Napoleon, like, thank god you're not this way.

572
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: But I don't mean many men that are under five

573
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: ten and don't have this weird complex about themselves. What

574
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: helps me? It helps me stand up. That's well, I've

575
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: seven and a half online, but by seven. But when

576
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: you're a stand up comedian and I can stand in

577
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: front of like a hundred people, five people, thousand people

578
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: and not be nervous and have joke around, you feel

579
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: like you're six ten. You feel like you're I'm on stage.

580
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I feel good and I don't even stand up. It's

581
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: very empowering and and I have I've been doing a

582
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: lot enough where I can walk around and be like

583
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: I could do something you're afraid of. You know, I

584
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: don't care who you are. You could be a legit

585
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL. But I can stand out there

586
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: for forty five minutes and joke around and you can't

587
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: not certainly shame anybody's looks. But when you're attractive and short,

588
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: it helps. Sorry, but like seriously, like you know what

589
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: like people like if you regularly look at motherfucker and

590
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: you five seven, like maybe life ankle hand you the best?

591
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: There helps Thank god. I got my hair. Oh thank god, right, dude.

592
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Imagine if you were like receding, dude, if I was

593
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: receding in there was a cult member that said I'll

594
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: bring your hair back, and everyone around them had hair,

595
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: I would be like, where Bron better join them? Motherfucker.

596
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Lebron'e hairlines like the ice like like the ice caps.

597
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: And every time I look at Lebron's hair, I'm like,

598
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: he's so, you had so much time during quarantine. And

599
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: then you know what else? I think when he finally

600
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: shaves it off, he's going to look back at old

601
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: clips and be like, Yo, why did I leave this

602
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: in all? Also, Lebron James, if I must say this,

603
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: when you're a black man, you can shave your head

604
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: and people are like that looks cool. White guys to

605
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: shave their heads, Like are you sick? Is everything okay? Okay?

606
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Are you darks? Like if you're like, are you a racist?

607
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Are you sick? Are you okay? Let me tell you something.

608
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: One of my friends, she was like, I sent her

609
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: to this guy was about to going to date with.

610
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: He was a white guy who was bald. Some guy

611
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: I've been online and he had a picture of Doc Martin.

612
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: She was like, this is the Nazi uniform, dude, the

613
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: guy that killed kids in Columbine and had on top

614
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: and then he was bald. You cannot do I'm like

615
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: what And it was like really, what came to her head?

616
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: She's like, you can't just suck a bald white guy

617
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: like this. He's probably racist. That's funny. I'm gonna ask

618
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: you a question. I'm gonna ask you to do this,

619
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: so I want you to look up Gwen Chamblin, the

620
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: leader of this reminant follow ship. Tell me if you

621
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: would let this woman lead you, look what she looks.

622
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to shame any one for their looks,

623
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: but when you're admitted, I know you are a goddamn liar.

624
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: And guess whose face is going to be the fucking

625
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: cover art for today's episode? Is her hair? Are you

626
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: shitting me right now? She dude? If that, I mean, hey,

627
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: everyone looks the way they look. Everyone's beautiful to somebody,

628
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: but but this woman looks crazy. Go oh my god, Eddie,

629
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the picture. I don't care.

630
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Every week, for facts sake, we've been putting our own faces.

631
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: We might have to put this bit room there. Wait, wait, wait,

632
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm serious. This might have to be today's I'm afraid.

633
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that one of her fellow followships is gonna, like,

634
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: fucking please makeup her neck and her hair right now.

635
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're picking this picture people. Y'all gonna see

636
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: it right now. She looks insane. She's holding If we

637
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: somehow decide against this, which there's no way we could.

638
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: This woman is holding a groom in a bride's hand.

639
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: She's in the middle of them. Her makeup is so

640
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: pasty white, she already looks had. Her hair is so

641
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: high up on her head. She's like it's like like

642
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: a like a buffon, Like it's like yeah or whatever.

643
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean she's been I'll give you that Memphis, Tennessee.

644
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: So she literally took she made a die. I don't

645
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: know what the diet is. I was looking up. I

646
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: couldn't really find too much it about it, but it

647
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: was like, it's really weird. What's the diet? Like I

648
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: want to hear her voice so badly. I need to

649
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: know how high pitched it is. Okay, who's your master?

650
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Here's the excerpts. We're looking off for that barn, right,

651
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Now at one time I was a white so much

652
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Chaucer. Um, are you shipping me? God? Damn it.

653
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I thought this bitch was gonna Wow. Now I'll tell

654
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: you what that is. A bufon goddamn accent. Uh. He's

655
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: funny when you look at someone's hair and be like,

656
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly how you sound. Oh my god. I

657
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: just went on on their on their website and saw

658
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: a picture of her and her kids and they all

659
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: have weird, big hair. She's still alive, Yeah, she s

660
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: tell has a church. Wow. How to focus on God?

661
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: By Gwen Shampo. How do you after focusing on food

662
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: for so long, how in the world do you start

663
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: focusing on God? I'll tell you what ya stop you

664
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: brand you take that take that cookie out of your

665
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: mouth and look up to God. Okay, that's that's a

666
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: weird one. She's uh and she makes everyone listen listeners

667
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Son's music. They all are they all you know, they're

668
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: all bought in, man, they're all in. This might be

669
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: this is this might be coming up on my favorite episode. Okay.

670
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: So the second cult that I chose and I thought

671
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: had a really cool thing in there, there's two celebrities

672
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: that were born into this cult as well. This is

673
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: also a popular one. David moses Berg. This is a

674
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: cult called the Children of God and this is a

675
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Communist Christian offshoot also in California. For so someone so

676
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: concerned with moral decay and evolution, and that's a lot

677
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: of them. It's all about the afterlife. He had a

678
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: very sex centric perspective on how to spread the views

679
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: of Jesus through flirty fishing. Basically, he would use young

680
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: women to learn new members by having sex with them.

681
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Apparently he was opposing anti pedophilia laws and according to

682
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: some of the members, sex with children was not only permitted,

683
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: but it was a divine right. Um. He was a

684
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: master of propaganda, writing, publishing and distributing pamphlets. Uh. He

685
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: had a terrifying book called The Art The Art of

686
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: the Children of God or something and basically discussed his teachings.

687
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: When the group changed his name several times, most recently

688
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: to Family International. It operates in eighty countries, although it

689
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: no longer permits adults between the sex and adults and children.

690
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix and Rose McGowan were born into this call.

691
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because I just saw was that who

692
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: saw is that Rose McGowan shaved head was like one

693
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: of the Mexico Did you see here? You did see

694
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: her there? Uh huh. I just didn't know if that

695
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: was her last name. So, um. They were established in

696
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: the late sixties, right, and he was a traveling preacher,

697
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: and they believed in free love and they were you know,

698
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: so they recruited with sex whatever. The flirty fishing is insane.

699
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: But the children, the survivors of it, say the children

700
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: were regularly abused. Um. Some there's a direct quote where

701
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: someone said there was sexual abuse for myself from the

702
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: age of four, not just from my dad who got convicted,

703
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: but from other members of the cult. Some related, some

704
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: were not. Um. I wasn't comfortable to the things being

705
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: done to me, But if I asked a question, I

706
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: got beaten or put on a silence restriction. I was

707
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: punished a lot because I was never able to stop

708
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: asking questions. He died in ninety four, and the cult

709
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: later rebranded and changed his name to Family of Love

710
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Family International, after it had been labeled a cult and

711
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: investigated by the FBI. They renamed themselves so that they

712
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: could stay around wild many imagine you go on a

713
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: date with somebody and then you go where'd you grow up?

714
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Oh cool? How

715
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: was that? Like? Not bad? I mean I was. That's

716
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I mean I was an occult for

717
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: the first ten years of my life. Like, uh, what

718
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: have you seen? So I know I was in a cult? Really? Yeah,

719
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: he's actually a close friend of mine. I did a

720
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Patreon episode about it a Horrible Decisions because I wanted

721
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: to discuss religion and sex and I'll see if I

722
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: could get him to jump in and like maybe do

723
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: a little something with us. It might be fun when

724
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: we have a Patreon and just discussed that portion. But basically,

725
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember what kind of cults it was. It

726
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: was something to do with God and religion and Christianity.

727
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: But they had to surrender their check, not the entire check,

728
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: but I think his mom gave him most of the

729
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: pay checked up and they made them cut out boobs

730
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: and stuff like that newspaper. Oh sorry, cut off the

731
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: boobs outside of news. I'm sorry, I don't I don't know.

732
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: I didn't. Oh my god, O sorry, I couldn't get

733
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: that out. He was like, not those log tits, no

734
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: cutting tits out of newspapers and clippings, and he's like,

735
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I never like saw bodies like that, Like we had

736
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: no TV. And then he was talking about how you'd

737
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: feel so guilty about masturbating, how once he did it,

738
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't stop and then he would have to like

739
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: just ask God if he could do it, and he

740
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: said he'd get so frustrated. He had to do it

741
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: anyway because like he found out what it felt like.

742
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: And then when he got married, he got married super young.

743
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: He didn't even kiss his wife till his fucking wedding

744
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: day because the cult like made him keep sanctified. What's

745
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: even more hilarious about this is like his wife and

746
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: him were into like kinky assex and he sucked all

747
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: the time, said like ten times a week. He's like,

748
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: they're like super Yeah, he's like and like he became

749
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: totally normal after that, but yeah, they were weird. Ask

750
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: mother cult. It's funny like he mentioned like they would

751
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: use women as bait for some of to get new

752
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: members for this cult. And also it's like and it

753
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: made me think of Jeffrey Epstein. I was like, oh,

754
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: ship like getting young girls to like lure in powerful people.

755
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: But here's the interesting thing. So this guy I'm talking about,

756
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I know him very well. I spent a Christmas with

757
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: his family, his mom. This was before I knew was

758
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: so adorable, so sweet, And the only thing I could

759
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: think after he told me this is like, Okay, she

760
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: was super lost after a divorce or something like. This

761
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: was not a woman I took for. I mean, she

762
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: was adorable, super sweet, like you know those type of

763
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: people that have to hug you when you get in

764
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: their house and they're like rubbed army, like you call

765
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: you on something like, she was so sweet and I

766
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: was like, wow, it's not who you would think. It's

767
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: those people that are so nice and impressional they get

768
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: sucked in. Mm hmm yeah. I mean it's funny, how

769
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: like not funny, but it's actually really terrible, how you

770
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: know how sex is this thing that can really put

771
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: you in a trance for certain people in these cults,

772
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: it's just like being lured in and you're just like,

773
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, I feel euphoric and I want it again.

774
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: And that's you've ever done over sex? Like what do

775
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: you mean? Like, I'll tell you mine. I feel like

776
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: I've had sex so good that so like he he

777
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money, and I was like

778
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: willing to like fly this guy to me. I was

779
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: willing to do like anything. I was like, oh my god,

780
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: I'd like maybe I've done that. I've I've flown in

781
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: somebody in Yeah. I feel like it's different for women,

782
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: right if you had to fly dick to you, bitch, Like,

783
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: come on, I mean use points. Let's see what else

784
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: is some dumb ship I've done for dick. Um. Oh

785
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: my god. I was sucking this guy and he just

786
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: really was just he to this day. No one needs

787
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: my I know, like him. And he absolutely loved table

788
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: tennis and I acted like I did too, And I

789
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: swear to you, Eddie, I mean we would watch you

790
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: tube is NonStop to the point where I was like

791
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: ordering him stuff that he needs, like I would do

792
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: anything for him to fuck me. He watched so much

793
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: table tennis and we were done. He was like, yeah,

794
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: let's try a new clip. Did and I'm like yo,

795
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: and I would just lie and I can you use

796
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: the paddle on me? Your ball swung at me? Yeah?

797
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Can we ping dong? It's pretty It's pretty crazy, like

798
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: the things we do, especially if we're in a certain

799
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: point of our lives where you want it the most.

800
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: And these cults and these play organizations and even someone

801
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: like Jeffrey Epstein, they prey on that for for something

802
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: like these leaders want something from you, whether it's your

803
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: money or power, or they want you they just want

804
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: to feel like the center of the universe. And whether

805
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: jever Epstein is like obviously using young women to lure

806
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: these guys who are probably living seclusion, who are like

807
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the Prince, Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton or whatever, who

808
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, can't just go on sleep with someone randomly

809
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: if they need to. This guy hooks them up and

810
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: in exchange, he gets power over these people. It's pretty

811
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: it's fucking wild. They're so like there, I guess it's

812
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: like I hate to say this because I know this

813
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: can't be true, but I feel like there's this sadistic

814
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: thing of like I can buy whatever I want. What's next,

815
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And any girl will fuck

816
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: me like what could be next? And I I feel

817
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: like there's there has to be something adjacent with wealth

818
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: and pedophilia for people. Yeah, there's people that are like

819
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: I can get a Ferrari delivered to me right now,

820
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: fulfilled cash. But that doesn't But that isn't risky enough.

821
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: I want to do this to somebody. It's terrible. I mean,

822
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: that'sn't terrible. Commoditizes people, commoditizes children and said terrible. Fuck.

823
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: I wonder how much pedavilia is related to that. And

824
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: some of these cults are just like they just they

825
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: just know you'll say yes, and they pray and they

826
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: fucking use you as just ponds and their game of chess.

827
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny, like when you said about

828
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: using sex to lure new members is just like blurty

829
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: fishing for Jesus. It's like, what have you ever watched

830
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Jesus Camp? No, if anyone can watch this, it's not

831
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: on Netflix anymore. But it was about not orthodox evangel yeah,

832
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: evangelical Christians or whatever. Evangelical evangelical think you're gonna get

833
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: it out um. And it starts off with these kids

834
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: hold like speaking in tongues and they talked to this

835
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: little girl and they're like just so brainwashed this little girl.

836
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: They're like, how could you at what? They say? What

837
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: do you want to be when you grow up? She

838
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: was like, um, I want to do nails because you

839
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: could get people very relaxed. You know, you get them relaxed,

840
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you do their nails, and it's like then you just

841
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: start telling them about the Lord. And I was like,

842
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: holy sh it, this little girl literally just say like,

843
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: you get them relaxed, you get them in a place

844
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: where you could talk to them and hold them as

845
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: a kid. To know that you've been watching these people

846
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: do dish it yeah, like I always funny, kind of

847
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: odd when someone try sneaked in religion with random thing.

848
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: You ever been in an uber and some guys you

849
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: want put on some music? Yeah, sure, it puts on

850
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: some Christian rock, like okay, nice try all right once

851
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish. One star of David. Okay, all that was good.

852
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: That's good, thank you, thank you. Okay. So this is

853
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: not actually a cult. I'm gonna do for my second fact.

854
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: This is actually a tactic cults use called love love bombing.

855
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Once people have been created by cult, they are often

856
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: quote unquote love bombed. The odd phrase is commonly used

857
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: to describe the ways in which someone with low self

858
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: esteem is consistently flattered, complimented, and seduced in order to

859
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: train their brain to associate the cult with love and acceptance.

860
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: Love Bombing is coordinated effort, usually under the direction of leadership,

861
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: that involves long term members, flooding recruits and newer members

862
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: with flattery, verbal seduction, affectionate but usually non sexual touching,

863
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: and lots of attention to their every remark. Love Bombing,

864
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: or the offer of instant companionship, is as deceptive ploy

865
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: accounting for many successful recruiment drives. The expression has also

866
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: been used to describe the tactics used by pimps to

867
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: control their victims. So it's crazy, it's like, God, they

868
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: talk about that ship with pimps. I've heard this before.

869
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: I've I've addressed it briefly with like sex trafficking. Yeah.

870
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: So let's just say you're someone who maybe come from

871
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: a broken home, maybe you moved, maybe your parents, uh,

872
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, the abandoned you. And you're like plan of

873
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: loss in this world. And you find this person who says,

874
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, has anyone said you're beautiful? And you're like,

875
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: no is anyone? You know? You shoot, you shoot the

876
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: ship and they laugh at everything you every joke you make.

877
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: They just think you're amazing, and they introduce you to

878
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: another group of people and like this is wheezy, and

879
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, wheezy, I love your skin. Oh

880
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: my god, where did you get that shirt? And you

881
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: just feel like, oh my god. Like every I'm like

882
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: the I'm like the highlight of this party. I'm on

883
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: the highlight of this I'm the center of attention. And

884
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: people who are elders of you look at you like

885
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: you're some sort of phenom or some sort of like

886
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: blessed person who was like, oh my god, you have

887
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: we have to get hert of we have to have

888
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: her over for lunch, or we have to have her

889
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: and then next you know, like and then like and

890
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: you're like, where are you staying tonight? Well, I'm thinking

891
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: about getting a motel And you're like like stay here,

892
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: and then you and and everyone's just all about you,

893
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: and you've the first time you've had someone all about

894
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you and as strangers, and you just feel like you're

895
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: getting something that you never got from friends from school,

896
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: from I do just want to add in for for

897
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: those of you that don't know, when people don't have

898
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: money that joined colts, they work their way in that cult.

899
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: They're cooking, they're cleaning, they're doing something to contribute to

900
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: that community in exchange for room and board generally. Yeah,

901
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: and it's almost like an internship. You almost feel like, oh,

902
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: this is going towards the greater thing, This is going

903
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: towards me being up in this ladder in this group organization.

904
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Eddie, I don't know how I forget.

905
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: When I was into Loom, we found people that it

906
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: were in a call. It was a sex call, and

907
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: the girl told us she found out because they were

908
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: starting her with like bottom jobs. So she's like, she

909
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: was like, check, she was getting banged the most. Okay, okay, go,

910
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: she's a model, Russian model, came from Miami. These rich

911
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: guys were like, yo, come to Saloom, will take care

912
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: of everything, like but you know, they kind of let

913
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: her to believe she'd be fucking right. So she's like,

914
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: I got here, gorgeous girls, the hotels, gorgeous, gorgeous hotel.

915
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: Can I say the name? Fucking Amon Salas and Saloom.

916
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Now they have a large property and at the time

917
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: this zone of hotels was completely empty, so people would

918
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: book out twenty rooms. So she said she went to

919
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: a month solid. She was like, there were sex parties

920
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: at night. There was drugs. It was fun. But what

921
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I started to realize, she said, once it was it

922
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: became a cult was when I had to wake up

923
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: and do certain jobs. She was like, Now, I started

924
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: by like cleaning clothes for everybody, and she was like,

925
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: and I didn't think it was a big deal because

926
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: like everything was covered. And then she said, a new

927
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: girl came in, and then I started just like folding

928
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: the clothes. She'd bring them from the laundromat. And then

929
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I would just do stuff in the house. I didn't

930
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: have to be outside. And then another girl came. Then

931
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: she started doing gros frees, like they took her jobs

932
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: and put it down to someone else. And she went

933
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: up a fucking ladder and she was like, once I

934
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: realized it was a colt, I had to get the

935
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: funk out of there. I'm like, where you imagine. Imagine

936
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: you're like a model type woman and you're you're sex

937
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: hungry and you're getting dped by people in an orgy

938
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: and then and then an hour later you're mopping a floor.

939
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: That's not right, yo, But they're like, yo, bitch, humble

940
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: yourself because you could be out of here. Mind you

941
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm at the party. I'm telling the girl

942
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: next to me, right, she's like the only other black

943
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: person I met there. I was like this, she said.

944
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: She's like, ye I heard here, and we're just getting

945
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: leaning and listening. Now we're trying to because mind you,

946
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: the XPAC community was small, right, So I'm like, yo,

947
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: who's in the cult? And she's like, okay, well I

948
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: can't point directly, but three o'clock bread dressed. I was like, Oh,

949
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: that's like it's like it's like get out the next

950
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're like mopping the floor. While some guys like,

951
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: right to bang you. What happened to Wheezy? I don't

952
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: know that. Like they were probably like, you're so hot,

953
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: you gotta come so beautiful. Oh my go look at

954
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: her hair, look at her skin. Oh my god, you're

955
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: so funny, you're so smart to the beach, come hang

956
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: out with us. You want to do some blow off

957
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: my tit? Wow boom love's love bombing. And you know what,

958
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: I've never dealt or talk to anyone who has been

959
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: involved in sex work. When it comes to the pampa,

960
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: I imagine the same thing. This man or woman or

961
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: whoever gives you this love and you feel like they're

962
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: a boyfriend or a partner. And the next thing you know,

963
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: they're asking, can you just do this one thing? I

964
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: need the money just and then next thing you know,

965
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: drugs are involved. I'm not saying that happens all the time,

966
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the most terrible situations I love bombing

967
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: is when it's it's predatorial. You see, they're missing this

968
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: part of their life, and then you, as someone senior

969
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: to them, you give them that and it's and you

970
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: can manipulate them. Who else has done this? Fun boys

971
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: they love bombing until they sucked me and then they're

972
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: done with me. Um, So beware, we've known this, ladies,

973
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: so from my last fact, and I know we don't

974
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: have a much time, but weird ass cult with another

975
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: suicide thing and it was the biggest in history, the

976
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: People's ten Pole. In nineteen fifty in Indiana, native Jim Jones,

977
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: not the Rapper, he founded a church and he claimed

978
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: to promote socialism and equality. Socialism is basically where everybody

979
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: you know kind of gets the same amount of money,

980
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: et cetera or whatever. So it was a religious element

981
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: of Christianity and initially he was a little more of

982
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: a hustler who faked faith healings by having audience members. Uh,

983
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: he would basically have he would like plant and pull

984
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: chicken livers out of their mouths and like say that

985
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: like he was healing them from like some devil. But

986
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: if the year progressed, people heard about it, and he

987
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: demanded more and more followers. So he moves everyone in California.

988
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep doing. This is a

989
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: commune like kind of situation in Redwood Valley. He eventually

990
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: became to believe that there was a nuclear war happening,

991
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: and so he moved his followers again to the South

992
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: American country of Guyana, where he said this would be

993
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: outside of the potential danger zone. So they lived there

994
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: for several years and they called themselves the People's Temple

995
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: Agricultural Project. But after some of the members started speaking out,

996
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: the San Francisco congressman at the time decided to travel

997
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: there to investigate the claims of abuse. His security guards

998
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: opened fire um on the group that came the Congressman's group,

999
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: and he ordered his followers to drink a cyanide laced beverage.

1000
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: Interesting only enough, this is where the phrase drinking the

1001
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: kool aid original. A total of nine hundred and eighteen

1002
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: people died in the incident that was the largest of

1003
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: Americans in history until nine eleven. Nine hundred and eighteen

1004
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: people fucking died from the ship. Bro, that's a lot.

1005
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: Where do they find them in a field? We're like,

1006
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: where were they? And they were on their plantation or

1007
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: fucking I said plantation because the ship. I started thinking

1008
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: his laves, like they're on their compound in uh Guyana. Yeah,

1009
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: And so they came down there, and I guess before

1010
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: when he shot at everybody, he was like, no, I

1011
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: guess we're all going down fun this ship, like the

1012
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm not about to catch up. Nine ship is insane, dude,

1013
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: mass suicide. Um, I'm curious to know, like what the

1014
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: people were led to believe because he forced them to

1015
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: drink of it. But um. Also, he claims that the

1016
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: reason that they went to Guyana is because there was

1017
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: the United States was a racist place. He said the

1018
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: temple concluded that Guyana was a place in a black

1019
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: country where black members could live in peace, and it

1020
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: was the only English speaking country in South America. Now

1021
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, he was y'all gonna be all right here

1022
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: until we kill you. Um. But yeah, he it was

1023
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: that evening that they like open gunfire. Um, it was

1024
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: captured on video by n NBC and one of the

1025
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: journalists was killed. And that evening he told everybody to

1026
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: drink it and two hundred seventy six of the people,

1027
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: which were kids. Oh sick. How do you get to

1028
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: nine people to agree with you that way? I mean,

1029
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: I can't even get like five people to eat the

1030
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: dip I bring to a party, you know what I mean. Like,

1031
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it is honestly a lot of Now his children,

1032
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: they have some pictures of them. One of his kids

1033
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: is black, Jim W. Jones juniors, Stephen Gandhi Jones, Agnes Jones.

1034
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Like he's got a lot of kids, um. And one

1035
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: of the kids I mean Guyanese. Yeah he uh. They

1036
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: talk about the tragedy. There's a lot of accounts of

1037
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: this online, Like it was forty years I think it's

1038
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: been forty two years now since that. But I mean

1039
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: it's super interesting. I've heard of Jim Jones, but I

1040
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: didn't know it's nine people. That's a lot of people. Man. Yeah,

1041
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know that much either. Can you that was

1042
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: the biggest until nine eleven is fucking insane. Dude. Wow,

1043
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: and he got them all to go to Guyana with him. Huh.

1044
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: The fact that it's called drink the Koolid. By the way,

1045
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: the number changes sometimes, like Forbes reported it as three

1046
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: four children, one, other sources two. I guess this is

1047
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks of age, but um, just in case,

1048
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: try to fact check me. But like, no, I mean,

1049
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a honestly one of the most

1050
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: shocking because I can't believe he got that many people

1051
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: to comply. Yeah. It's It's one thing to like move

1052
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: people and think, oh, this person is super talented, I'll

1053
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: buy what a record that come out with, or I

1054
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: am all about whatever this person likes to wear. I

1055
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: want to wear it. But to really follow someone in

1056
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: every path they take you down, including death, Yeah, it's

1057
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: a it's a It's a perfect mix between someone being

1058
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: super influential and find someone who's super super impressionable, and

1059
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: then they just they they think they're helping each other

1060
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: when in fact one is taking badget over. What's interesting

1061
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: is someone has spoken out. She She tells The Atlantic

1062
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: that she figures like, oh, I'll just go down there

1063
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: and if I don't like it. She was nineteen when

1064
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: she joined, and she was like, if I don't like it,

1065
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: like I can just leave. But she said she was homeless.

1066
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: A man came alongside her in a van and basically

1067
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Um was like, Hey, this is where I live. No

1068
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: one has to worry about food or housing, and we're

1069
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna build people a new future. And she was like, oh,

1070
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: I just get out. She was homeless anyway, And forty

1071
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: years later she had opened up about it and basically

1072
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: said she was with him for seven years in California,

1073
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: UM and that people were warm, they worked hard to

1074
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: build a utopian community, and he was very passionate about

1075
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: civil rights. He helped in a great churches, hospitals, restaurants,

1076
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: movie theater, UM, and he adopted lots of of color.

1077
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Then he had a black hid himself. So UM many

1078
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: of in the majority of followers that died with him

1079
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: were black, and one third of them. So it's crazy

1080
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: because it's like, how you about the civil rights? But

1081
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: you did all this to us. But she got out

1082
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: three weeks before the massacre, and uh yeah, I mean

1083
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: she uh I think she she told a story and

1084
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: something called oh She said that he included the mass

1085
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: suicide and rehearsals that he would call the White Knights,

1086
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: and basically she had a realization that he was going

1087
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: to kill her. She that's why she left. And uh yeah,

1088
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: she said that he was kind of like re enacting

1089
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: it a few times. Wow, they had rehearsals and how

1090
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: they're going to kill each other. Oh God, this is creepy.

1091
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: My last cult is a really wild one that I've

1092
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: never heard of. I know I sons called. It's called

1093
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: Chinao called Chin Tao was a cult formed by a

1094
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: former professor called Hong Ming Chin, who believed that the

1095
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: universe four point five trillion years old, that we each

1096
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: had three souls, and that humanity has been rescued for

1097
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: more than more than once by God who travels in

1098
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: a flying saucer. This is out there. These are UFO cults. Okay,

1099
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: that's a UFO called. The group reportedly moved to Garland,

1100
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: Texas because the name sounded like god Land, which is

1101
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: probably because of an Asian accent. Uh god. Ok. At

1102
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: the time, the group had roughly hundred sixty members, forty

1103
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: of which were children. Members purchased more than two twenty

1104
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: homes in an upper middle class South Garland neighborhood. Like

1105
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: their neighbors, these followers were white collared professionals, some of

1106
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: whom were reportedly wealthy. They dressed in uh all in

1107
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: white and wore cowboy hats and of luxury car So

1108
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: this guy recruited some real business people and brought them

1109
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: over to Texas from I think it was I think

1110
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: it was Taiwan. Anyway, the group was best known for

1111
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: being hilly publicized and failed by a millennial prophecy. So

1112
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: this guy promised something and this is how he lost

1113
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: all his fellowship. Shortly after moving to Garland. In August

1114
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven, Chen predicted that at twelve or one am

1115
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: on March God would be seen on every single television

1116
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: channel all across North America. Whether or not the person

1117
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: had cable service was irrelevant to God's appearance on that

1118
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: channel when predicted. When the When the predicted appearance did

1119
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: not occur, the group became confused. The chan and the

1120
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: Chentel leader announced that he obviously had misunderstood God's plan,

1121
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: and members quietly returned to their homes. Chen offered to

1122
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: be was offered to be stoned or crucified for the event,

1123
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: but no one took up up on his offer. He

1124
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: later disappeared and was never heard from again. No one

1125
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: knows where he is. You think he was like schizophrenic

1126
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: and really heard it. I think this guy was lost

1127
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: his mind and said, watched twelve oh one. God's gonna

1128
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: give an answer to everybody, And they all looked and

1129
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: nothing happened, and he's like, um, yeah, maybe check your phone, okay,

1130
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: And then everyone sort of was like, here's a thing, though,

1131
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to run a cult, you almost want

1132
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: to keep it with mystery. If you say something's gonna happen,

1133
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, and I mean what, and your believers are like,

1134
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and they all disbanded him. First

1135
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: of all, I said, it's a possibility, y'all take my

1136
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: ship too serious. I would have been like, you know

1137
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: how hard is to go viral? You think God's gonna

1138
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: get on every TV. There's a lot of cool shows

1139
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: out there right now. Because we are not in Garlin.

1140
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: We are not in the right one. Garland Gotland, good one.

1141
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: There's not a wild So he basically convinced a bunch

1142
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: of people over an Asia that that you know, uh,

1143
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: we have three souls and we should all moved to Garland, Texas.

1144
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: They all bought homes and apparently if anyone here is listening,

1145
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of listeners in Texas and

1146
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: anyone who was close to Garland, apparently it's a known

1147
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: thing that like Garland had to deal with this issue.

1148
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: And the city was like, what do we do. There's

1149
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: a legit cult and some of the members still walk

1150
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: around to this day. That's still believe in his work.

1151
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: But but the religion disbanded and they were like all

1152
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: white with a cowboy hats and cowboy boots and their

1153
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Asian is that crazy? So if you see Asian and

1154
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: Garland sex, you'd be like hold on. So you'll be

1155
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: watching cable this whole time, and Spectrum gave you nothing.

1156
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: So that's another way. And when you hear a coltsy

1157
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: thing that big, you think is scientology even like the

1158
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: gym Jones one. Is it Jim Jones or is it Yeah?

1159
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: But some of these other ones are just like wild

1160
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: and some of the tactics they use is crazy. So

1161
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: let's you gotta run down, let me see what you got.

1162
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: Let's see here we go here we go, Here we go.

1163
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: My first fact was about Heaven's Gate and the five

1164
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: dollars and seventy five cents and taking their body to

1165
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: the next level and castrating motherfucker's then Eddie matter of factors.

1166
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: Eddie then did his first one was the weight loss

1167
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: lighting name Gwen Trevanni shambling whatever I say it, because

1168
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: I thought wins to Vranni, That's what My second one

1169
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: was then about Children of God and how they were flirting, fishing,

1170
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: getting UM members in there with little girls. And then

1171
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: Eddie's second one was about the tactics, particularly love bombing,

1172
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: about all the compliments and how we've seen it used

1173
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: with pimps and funk boy today as it stands. And

1174
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: my last one was about the People's Temple, Jim Jones

1175
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: bringing a bunch of people to Diana, killing a total

1176
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: nine eighteen people. And Eddie's last one, as he had

1177
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: just heard, was about Garland, Texas. Yeah, the Chin the

1178
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: China cult. And he said God's gonna God's gonna show

1179
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: up on TV And then I was like, no, where

1180
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: is he? Maybe he meant Pacific time. Oh my god,

1181
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, what a great episode, what a great episode,

1182
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: so much fun. Yeah, we had a great time. And

1183
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: if you the listener had a great time listening to

1184
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: this podcast as much as we loved talking about all

1185
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: these random facts. Let us know, give us a rating

1186
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: review on Apple Podcasts. Every review helps the podcast grow.

1187
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: It gets in that algorithm and lets people be aware,

1188
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: and it's good for our ratings as well. Add us

1189
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: on social media Instagram, Twitter, all that stuff. It can

1190
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: be found in the podcast description. Yuh, he's got horrible decisions.

1191
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: Listen to that every every Monday. Disgusting, it's fun. I've

1192
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: been on It's a great time. Uh, and I get

1193
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: a new comedy album you can find on Apple, on iTunes,

1194
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Spotify and the link will be in the podcast description.

1195
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh what a great time this was. This was a

1196
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: juicy when we did over an hour and six. No,

1197
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,959
Speaker 1: it's called a little jerk. Yeah, I'll take a little devil.

1198
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: Little devil sounds a little jerk you okay, come embarrassed.

1199
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: But what a great episode, a lot of fun. Uh

1200
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: and uh, we had thanks so much for him to

1201
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: get letting us gets a hundred thousand downloads. You guys,

1202
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We will talk to everybody in

1203
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: a week. Al Right, everyone, stay safe Bane