1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Previously on OBSCURUM: Invasion of the Drones. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: I think the funnest one is the fact that they 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: were missing a nuclear warhead. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: I like that one. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 4: Well, they're quiet, but they had definite two spotlights coming 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 4: out of the bottom of them. It was just going 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 4: over the lake. The geese were just going crazy. To me, 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 4: it seemed like they were looking for something. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: She was a lot more concerned. You'll, for in case 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: they're trying to find people and find kids to nab, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: like sex traffickers are gone extremely high tech. I'm canning 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: at least one two, three, four five. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 5: That actually rotated, looking as if it was appearing in 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 5: each window of our home. 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: Hello, where are you? I'm out by the canty line 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 3: and walking around looking at a few of these abandoned barns. 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 6: You need to be really careful out there. 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 7: You know what I told you when I talked to 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 7: my students in Benckelmann. 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Especially the boys. They said those places can be inhabited by. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 6: People that are making mess all sorts of stuff, so 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 6: you really need to be aware of your surroundings. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to go down by the river and. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 6: So can you text me? 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 7: Though, even if you can't call me please, I. 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: Need to know where you are. 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Stories are like puzzles. Nothing makes sense until most of 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the pieces are in place, when you really start to 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: see the big picture. With the unknown aircraft, I was 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: hoping to quickly find which pieces were missing while trying 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to verify that the FBI had given the order to 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: shoot these objects down. I dialed in on what I knew. 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I'd learned this forms of these mysterious aircraft varied in size, 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: and we're being seen nightly over many counties. Most sightings 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: started at dusk and ended around ten pm. 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 8: It just makes me really uneasy because I feel like 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 8: somebody is watching us all the time. That's just super unnerving. 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I'd been able to chat with a few residents and 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: at this point people were wanting more information from local authorities. 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: The following excerpt is from you MC County Sheriff Todd 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Combe's Facebook post and was read by a voice actor. 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 9: I will tell you right up front, I do not 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 9: have a lot of answers for you at this time. 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 9: I wish I did, but I don't. I think we're 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 9: all feeling a little bit vulnerable due to the intrusion 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 9: of our privacy that we enjoy in our real community. 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 9: But I don't have a solution or no of one 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 9: right now. All I can say is, don't live your 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 9: life in the fear of the unknown. I will keep 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 9: you informed as soon as I hear anything. 51 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: Chapter three. Above the prairie, the big white one is 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: hovering low to the ground. If I had to guess, 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Two to three hundred feet in the air. 54 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: There are these red and green flashes moving around it 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: to the switch was flipped. On my vacation, that calm 56 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: feeling you get from being at home turned into pir adrenaline. 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: With each hour, I found myself getting sucked into this 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: odd series of events that seemed more like a sci 59 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: fi movie than real life. I wasn't sure what my 60 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: next steps should be, or if I should even be 61 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the one looking for next steps, as I'd soon be 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: traveling back to Los Angeles. I started googling, searching through 63 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: a ton of information about airplanes in UFO sidings. I 64 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: wanted to know if anything similar to these craft had 65 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: been seen in the area before. 66 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: What were your grandparents' names, and what were they like. 67 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 10: The man's name was Milt Clayton Moreland. Clara Moreland was 68 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 10: his wife. I do have a picture of him sitting 69 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 10: on the eve of a house with a team of 70 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 10: horses moving a house across the prairie. So he was 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 10: a can do it man. 72 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I discovered an old article about unexplained flying objects published 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: in a local newspaper from nineteen fifty. Apparently the report 74 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: was given by Milton Clara Morland of Imperial, Nebraska. They 75 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: passed away, but I was able to talk with their grandson, 76 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Terry McNair about their story. What do you remember them 77 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: telling you about what they experienced that day in nineteen fifty. 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 10: Well, I remember mostly my grandmother talking about it, and 79 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 10: she would get quite excited, and she would say that 80 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 10: these things just came buzzing along and they weren't large, 81 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 10: they were small, you know, like saucer basketball shaped, and 82 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 10: you know, they were just kind of flittering along all together, 83 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 10: a whole bunch of them, and they came in from 84 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 10: one way and swooped out a different way. 85 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 11: So she's just, you know, sitting at home one day, 86 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 11: it's it's daylight, and these saucer type basketball looking objects 87 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 11: just kind of appear. 88 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 10: They just kind of appear. They hurted noise, and they 89 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 10: went out to investigate it. That's what they found. 90 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: If Terry hadn't used the word saucer, his description sounded 91 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: eerily similar to the drone behavior I'd heard about. 92 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 11: He is of you know what, you think they saw. 93 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 10: Flying saucers. I thought that my whole life. 94 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: Had you heard any other stories of flying saucers in 95 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: that area before? 96 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: Not? 97 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 10: Really. I would remember my mother talking about lights in 98 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 10: the prairie when she was a kid, that they would 99 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 10: see lights in different areas where they're knew there was 100 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 10: no population. They were just lights. 101 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: What do you mean by by lights? 102 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 10: They were more along the land rather than high in 103 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 10: the sky. They were they were close to the earth, 104 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 10: but off in the distance. She just said that they 105 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 10: were unexplained. 106 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: So she just saw weird, weird lights in the prairie. 107 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 108 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: As I looked further into the history of the area, 109 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: I came across more interesting facts. In the nineteen sixties, 110 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: a number of locals saw weird objects in the sky. 111 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: One of those people was Barb Stanley. 112 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 6: I was ten years old and I looked out on 113 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 6: the horizon. There was a hilp and as I was 114 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 6: sitting there, I saw some type of craft that I 115 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: think had landed. Then it slowly rose and I thought 116 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 6: it was going to just keep going higher, but it 117 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 6: just disappeared. Just one minute was there and one minute 118 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: it wasn't. It was bigger than a car, but didn't 119 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 6: look like a car. You know. Back in my ten 120 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 6: year old mind, I was just like, wow, you know, 121 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 6: I've never never seen anything like that before, not what 122 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: the Jetsons were like. Yeah, it seemed to be the 123 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: real deal. 124 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Barb experienced this siding on the family farm, which oddly enough, 125 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: was close to where these so called drones were first spotted. 126 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 6: A week later, there was a newspaper article that said 127 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: there was a lady in Imperial that had basically seen 128 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 6: the same thing. I took it out to my husbands 129 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: to read this, so that was kind of an affirmation 130 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 6: that I wasn't just making up the story. 131 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: You said you were sitting on the porch looking out. 132 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: You know what's going through your mind when you see this? 133 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 6: I'd say astonishment, because I had the feeling that I 134 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 6: was alone, you know, like my parents were gone, and 135 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 6: so who would help me. I thought, oh, wow, this 136 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 6: is thereous and they mean harm. I'm basically by myself. 137 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: That had to be such a surreal feeling, especially at 138 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: a young age without anyone around. When I continued looking 139 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: into these sightings, I came across an article about one 140 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: of the first UFO crashes in modern history. It was 141 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: said to have taken place in southwest Nebraska near Binkleman 142 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: in the late eighteen hundreds. As the story goes, in 143 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: early June of eighteen eighty four, a rare phenomenon occurred. 144 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 12: A few cowboys were out at a round up when 145 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 12: they were startled by a loud noise and saw what 146 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 12: looked like a blazing body fall into the earth. The 147 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 12: next day, a brand inspector found machinery scattered throughout the 148 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 12: pasture after the object was cooled, including a wheel fragment 149 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 12: with a mill rimp. The object was reported to be 150 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 12: fifty to sixty feet long, cylindrical, and about ten or 151 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 12: twelve feet in diameter. 152 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Because that story was from so long ago, I took 153 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt. I obviously had no 154 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: way to check the facts with the locals who'd experienced it. 155 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: Whether people were seeing drones, flying saucers, or something else. 156 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: I began to notice a common theme. Most of these 157 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: sightings occurred near isolated farmhouses outside the city limits. I 158 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: wasn't sure how this info could plain into what was happening, 159 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: but it proved one thing unexplained. Aircraft weren't out of 160 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: the ordinary for this part of the country. Chapter four 161 00:10:48,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: surrounded it's more residents saw drone like objects flying. I 162 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: began contacting police stations in neighboring counties. Despite my persistence, 163 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it was tough to get anyone to speak with me. 164 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: There was one person I knew I could lean on 165 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: outside of law enforcement. His name is Bill Bowerley, and 166 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: he's a family friend. Bill also just happens to be 167 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: an aviation expert. He was an Air Force pilot, Delta 168 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Airlines pilot, and former member of the local airport authority. 169 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 10: How are you good? 170 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm actually working on another aviation product. 171 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: Bill's an outdoorsman. When I walked into his house, there 172 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: were fish and animal heads up on the walls. So 173 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: have you been good? 174 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: This has been my busiest year flying. 175 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: After we caught up, Bill dove into his background. 176 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: I started got my license in seventy six on a 177 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: program that was the pre military. It was part of 178 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: my scholarship. I had to go to the military. Takes 179 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: a year to get through Air Force pilot training. Seventy 180 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: eight I graduated. They plowed me back as an instructor 181 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: because I did too well in the course, and then 182 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: in Germany for three years, and then from that I 183 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: went to a test squadron and flew in the test squadron. 184 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: Left the military on a Friday, started on Monday with Delta, 185 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: and I've been flying for Delta every month since. 186 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: It was Bill's military history that I thought might shine 187 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: some light on what was going on. So they've been 188 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: doing drones in the military for a really long time. 189 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: Really, that first Golf War was where they really brought 190 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: him in, so you didn't have to risk a man's 191 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: life and you could provide reconnaissance. And that's where it 192 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: got started. In the intel gathering and the censors they 193 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: can put on it. The miniaturization of all of that 194 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: just kept improving improvement, so they'd make him smaller and smaller. Well, 195 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: they kept making him a little bit bigger and giving 196 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: them more range. So that's where they came up with 197 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: these twenty four or thirty six hour drones and could 198 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: just loiter. 199 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: I'd heard the term drone tossed around a lot. I 200 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: pulled up an official definition. A drone is technically any 201 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: unmanned aircraft that can fly remotely or autonomously. In my opinion, 202 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: that description left a lot of room for interpretation. Was 203 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: the word drone just the new and more casual term 204 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: for UFO. I'd now seen these drones as people were 205 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: calling them. Three nights in a row, there were larger 206 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: or black objects illuminating the fields and smaller ones surrounding them. 207 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: Each night. They were flying in groups. 208 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: We were testing the ability to be able to tie 209 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: remotely piloted vehicles to a mothership, and that was in 210 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: the late eighties, so we know that you can have 211 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: a mothership fly and tether wirelessly other ones off of it. 212 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Bill then gave me more than I bargained for a 213 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: first person report on what he thought maybe flying in 214 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: the sky. 215 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: These are most likely the ones that they'll put a 216 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: gas engine on them with a small field cell, and 217 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: that engine then powers electric that powers all the props. 218 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: We've got military drones that can stay up thirty six 219 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: hours if you just use the premise that they are 220 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: a six hour drone, and they can travel at sixty 221 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: miles an hour. It would be very conceivable, but that 222 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: you could launch the use from one hundred miles away, 223 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: go do your work, and then fly that hundred miles home. 224 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Imagine a six foot vehicle with wings, which job takes 225 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: thirty six hours and covers hundreds of miles. 226 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Somebody's making money doing this. Otherwise it wouldn't exist. 227 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: That's what I keep saying. 228 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 13: I follow the money trail. 229 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: Follow the money trail. That's the first step. It comes 230 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: down to what confidence. 231 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 7: Do you have. 232 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: In believing what your government tells you want. 233 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: By the time I left Bill's, I'd received a few messages. 234 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Apparently when people hear you're back home from la and 235 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: asking questions about a weird phenomenon they've seen too, you 236 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: get a lot of tips for who to visit with the. 237 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: Girl you were talking about. That's your daughter in law, 238 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: or that's your daughter, or that's my daughter. It is 239 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: your daughter, Okay. When she was an inner car and 240 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: those three drones kind of appeared, you know, surrounding her car, 241 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: how close would she estimate that those were to her 242 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: actual vehicle as it was going down the road. 243 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 7: She said, they were just like a little above like 244 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 7: the telephone polls, So, I mean, she could see them clearly, 245 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 7: and there was like three of them and they were 246 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 7: just just kind of following her. 247 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: A lady named Trisha Michael told me that she'd received 248 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: a strange phone call late one evening when a few 249 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: of the unknown aircraft flew above her daughter's vehicle. 250 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 6: She called. 251 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 7: It was her phone number, but it said Palestinian territories 252 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 7: as far as our area. 253 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 5: But she I didn't answer it. So when I called her. 254 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 8: Back, she did not answer. 255 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 5: So I called the Palestinian number back just to kind 256 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: of see what it was and see if I would 257 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 5: get anybody or not. And I had just got a 258 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: male voice recording saying that the number was no longer available. 259 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: Once she got home and there was nothing above her, 260 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: and it rang in just fine, it rang in normal. 261 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: So when she called you, it said Palestinian territories on 262 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: your caller ID, where you'd normally see her name. 263 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, normally it would say like local, like if 264 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 7: it's a local call, it would say Sterling, Colorado, where 265 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 7: it would say where it's from. 266 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: It had listed Palestinian territories. 267 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: What did your daughter describe, you know, feeling like when 268 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: those drones were following her. 269 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 8: I don't think that that one bothered her nearly as much. 270 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 8: Later in that evening, she had gotten home and she 271 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 8: was the only one here, and there were three that 272 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 8: were parked on our road, and they parked there for 273 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 8: about thirty minutes or so at least. 274 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: When you say parked, you mean that they were hovering 275 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: in the air, yeah. 276 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: Covering, Yeah, Yeah, they just don't move. So that made 277 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: her a lot more uncomfortable than just driving underneath it. 278 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: Could these aircraft be interfering with cell towers? It sure 279 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: seemed like that was a possibility. I kept searching for 280 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: new leads. Let's just say things got even more peculiar. 281 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 6: I just don't get, like, why they're so interested suddenly 282 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: in this area. 283 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 7: He said that we have the military drums out here 284 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 7: that are using scramblers that are trying to break up 285 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 7: the signals. 286 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: There is a river bottom down through here, and they 287 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: seem to work the waterway. 288 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 7: The drums that are here have been described as black. 289 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 7: We have been told that the military drones are actually light. 290 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: Their grid pattern was definitely around Frenchman Creek. 291 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: God. 292 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I love sweet and Cream. I used to go here 293 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: growing up, and I'd always get the same order two hamburgers, 294 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: ketch boneley, French fry, and uh doctor pepper. It was 295 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: early evening and I just ordered dinner and to drive 296 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: through an Imperial when I received information about another encounter. 297 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: This one seemed different. The lady mentioned in the message 298 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: didn't live too far east of town. I quickly finished 299 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: up my meal and headed in her direction. I think 300 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: this is the turn and to go see this girl 301 00:18:48,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: right now named Marcy Kelly. There was a pen close 302 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: by with a few of Marcy's animals. Her goat named Nanny, 303 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: kept wanting to get in on the interview. Nanny, don't 304 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: eat my clothes. You are a good goat, though I 305 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: could tell that Marcy was a small town gall at heart. 306 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Before we began our conversation, she walked me through her house, 307 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: past some family photos, and onto the back patio. 308 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 14: I don't remember where a question was. 309 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say, you know, is 310 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: it typical for farmers to use drums? 311 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 14: Yes, even through my husband's work, they have a drone 312 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 14: that they check the pivots with, and I think that 313 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 14: a lot of other people do too. I think that 314 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 14: Southwest Power uses them, probably check the power lines. From 315 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 14: what I've understood and now and they're not nearly this. 316 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: Bigh What do you make of this whole thing? 317 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: Do you? 318 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: How do you feel? 319 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 14: I feel uneasy about it, just because there's so many 320 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 14: and they've been here for so long, and we don't 321 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 14: have an answer of who's doing it. We both, my 322 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 14: husband and I both think that they shut off their 323 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 14: lights and they can fly lower than and they're undetected, 324 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 14: like later at night when they're trying to go back 325 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 14: to their check in point or whatever they're trying to do, 326 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 14: because then you can hear them, and there's no planes 327 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 14: in the area, and it's just a different kind of 328 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 14: a noise. 329 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: What would lead you to believe that they that they 330 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: shot off their lights. 331 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 14: Because when they're high up, you can't hear them, and 332 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 14: so it's just a different kind of a noise that 333 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 14: we hear. So I just it's just kind of a 334 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 14: noise that you're like, oh, they're lower and you can 335 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 14: hear them, you know, kind of like after a jet 336 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 14: goes by and then you hear it later on or 337 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 14: something like that. 338 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Marcy had seen most of the aircraft near her property, 339 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: and she noticed something else. Wild animals weren't acting as 340 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: they normally would during the winter Sunday. 341 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 14: And it was like the day after the blizzard, like 342 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 14: we lost power and stuff Saturday from the snow. My 343 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 14: dog's caught a snake, and then a few days before that, 344 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 14: my friend's daughter had gotten a turtle, and I'd seen 345 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 14: a frog hopping and I'm like, what, So that was 346 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 14: weird to me that all of those things are coming 347 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 14: out of the ground. 348 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Kind of worried that way. From your perspective, what do 349 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: the formations look like? And are there different sizes of 350 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: the drones from what you've seen, I think that. 351 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 14: There's different sizes. I think that there's like a docking station, 352 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 14: one that's a little bit bigger that either they get 353 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 14: energy from it or charge or reboot or exchange information too. 354 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 14: And that one seems pretty just like it hovers. It 355 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 14: doesn't really move a lot, kind of just stay stable. 356 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 14: And then the other ones. I've seen them go fast, 357 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 14: I've seen them go slow. I've seen them shut off 358 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 14: the lights and then turn them back on later. And 359 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 14: I think that they range in sizes. I don't think 360 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 14: that they'd be over ten foot at the biggest. I 361 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 14: mean probably mostly five to eight foot. 362 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Could you make out that it was, in fact a drone? 363 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 14: Sounds better than a UFO identified flying object. 364 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 6: Basically, yeah, Just. 365 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: When I thought I'd heard every theory, Marcy dropped this one. 366 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 14: I have heard and I haven't seen. I seen a 367 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 14: picture of like a green substance that's been dropped, you know. 368 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 14: I'm like, oh, what if it's something like dangerous? 369 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: When I got back inside the pickup, I played that 370 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: audio over and over, and. 371 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 14: I seen a picture of like a green substance that's 372 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 14: been dropped, A green substance that's been dropped. 373 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: Marcy didn't reveal who showed her the picture or where 374 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: they lived. The skeptic and me kept thinking aircraft dropping 375 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: things from the sky at night? Why do these accounts 376 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: keep getting even more bizarre? Just when I begin to 377 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: wrap my mind around certain parts of this story, I 378 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: was told another credible, if unbelievable detail coming up on 379 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: obscure invasion of the drones. 380 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 7: Really, we have to absolutely verify what is happening in Colorado. 381 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Someone has very sophisticated ways to override the FA rules 382 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: that are in here. 383 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 13: I can see it going off ten of our shop 384 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 13: as soon as I opened the garage door, there was 385 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 13: a white like infrared camera light. 386 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. 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