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Speaker 1: We live in two completely different worlds.

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Speaker 2: Is that true, sir?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Why will explain?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna explain? Okay, because our way of understanding and

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Speaker 2: interpreting things are not necessarily what they really are. Let's

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Speaker 2: decipher how that works. Dead Ass. Hey, I'm Kadeen and

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Speaker 2: I'm Devoured, and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 1: You may know us from posting funny videos.

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Speaker 2: With our voice and reading each other publicly as a

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Speaker 2: form of therapy.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I make you need therapy most days. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we are.

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Speaker 3: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of

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Speaker 3: li's most taboo topics.

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Speaker 2: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 3: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 3: we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred,

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Speaker 3: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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Speaker 3: We thought that, say philos off to our whole new level.

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Speaker 2: Dead ads starts right now.

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Speaker 3: So all right, storytime, story time, and this story time

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Speaker 3: takes me back to i'd say two thousand and fifteen,

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Speaker 3: and I believe I told the story before, but I'm

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Speaker 3: going to tell a story under different circumstances. This time

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Speaker 3: it's about one of my former Prototype members. He was

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and

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Speaker 3: put on medication. He had a sixty seven average, and

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Speaker 3: he had joined Prototype as a member of Grand Street

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Speaker 3: and I said, dude, there's no way I can let

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Speaker 3: seven average. If you don't get your grades up, I'm

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Speaker 1: So I spoke to his mom.

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Speaker 3: His mom says, yeah, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: he says, mom said, yeah, he was diagnosed with ADHD,

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Speaker 3: he's on medication. If he's not on his medication, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't know how to sit down and focus. So I said,

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Speaker 1: And she was like, what is that?

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Speaker 3: I said, take him off the medication, because I've noticed

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Speaker 3: most kids, especially young men, struggle in school because they're

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Speaker 3: Her perception was if I just give my kid medication,

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to prove that to you guys today.

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Speaker 2: Bring it on in now, all right, karaoke time.

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Speaker 1: Karaoke time, and I'm a singer.

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Speaker 3: Karaoke so on that we've sung before, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: You ready? Was that it was all a dream?

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Speaker 3: I used to read Word Up magazine, Pepper and Heavy

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Speaker 3: The reason why I sing that song we sang it

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Speaker 3: Biggie had an idea of what he wanted to be,

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be a more serious topic for us today.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a dream, baby, let's all dream together.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact. Let's dream and reality. How about that? Ooh,

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Speaker 2: it's dream and reality. But the reality is we got

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Speaker 2: So stick around, we'll be right back, all right. So

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Speaker 2: we're coming back talking about perception versus reality. That story

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Speaker 2: it's so layered too, right, because you just think about

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Speaker 2: it's running the health professionals, these medical professionals that tell

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Speaker 3: There's always other ways, and even more so when it

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Speaker 3: comes to perception and what people think. Right, I'm just

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Speaker 1: That it's a desire because it's exactly this.

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Speaker 3: Other people's perceptions of who you are become your reality

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Speaker 3: Give you an example, A guy gets up on a podcast,

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Speaker 2: Because all that's going to do the phone's going to

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Speaker 3: Everything we do, right, what we watch, what we everything

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Speaker 1: It's all based in marketing. They want to sell you something.

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Speaker 3: So they give your attention, They get your attention through

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Speaker 3: there's so many same thing what I told you about athletes.

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Speaker 3: People think athletes are done, but athletes graduated a higher

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Speaker 1: Make that make sense?

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Speaker 2: See, and I wouldn't have known that because I mean, so,

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Speaker 2: how do we then, Okay, how do we then encourage

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: How do we then decipher what that is or what

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Speaker 1: Put the fucking phone down.

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Speaker 3: I heard a quote from Denzel He said, if you

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Speaker 3: don't watch the news, you're uninformed.

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Speaker 1: If you watch the news, you're misinformed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you know how you get affirmation?

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Speaker 1: You get information? Live?

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Speaker 3: Live, right, travel Like, if you really want to create

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Speaker 3: a reality for yourself, travel the world on your own.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen to what people say this place is.

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Speaker 3: For example, when I was young, first movie I ever

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Speaker 1: It was nineteen eighty nine. I was five years old.

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Speaker 2: You watch Boyshood at five years I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to, but my parents, like my dad.

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Speaker 3: First of all my perceptions, I'm gonna get off the

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Speaker 3: to this just listen to how crazy this is. Perception

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Speaker 2: So perception gives way to it gives way to someone

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Speaker 3: Your perception is someone else's opinion of what you see.

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Speaker 3: That's perception. When you just listen to someone else's opinion

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Speaker 3: The problem is that the lens through which we perceive

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Speaker 2: Goal rhythm and the comment section. But you see, But yeah, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: It was a wet t shows coming out of the water.

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Speaker 1: Who took that picture? He did?

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Speaker 2: So anyway, post the picture, the picture pretty much goes viral.

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Speaker 2: It's sidebar, thank y'all for the love, and then there

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Speaker 2: So then there was one or two people that said, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: That's your perception because you've sawn this, you've seen this

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Speaker 2: If you went to my profile, it's a Jamaican flag

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Speaker 2: More than we can ask a question reality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said she only pigs up Saint Vincent when

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Speaker 2: I didn't get it convenience. I ended up on people's

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Speaker 2: party flyers to get paid, No, and some people removed

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Speaker 2: Someone actually sent me whe where someone removed the Saint

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Speaker 2: like you said, convenient about me posting this picture of myself.

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Speaker 2: I was just proud to be back in the Motherland.

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Speaker 2: Bring some attention to Saint Vincent, Yes, because it's a

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Speaker 2: So I see everybody came from there, right, Saint Vincent

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Speaker 3: Because of social media, you have to be very aware

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Speaker 3: you have to, but there was a standard. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we asked and we said, you know, is everything

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Speaker 3: And then we were just like, you know, we heard.

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Speaker 1: Lot of the things that we we.

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Speaker 2: Though it ain't true. That's why it's so important for

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Speaker 2: Right So, there's two events that I was invited to recently,

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Speaker 2: the president or being that event was actually would have

436
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 2: been I guess altered a bit because the reality of

437
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: why we were there was to make those connections.

438
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: And we were deliberate about that because we understand that

439
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: there are two worlds. That's what's part of my sound

440
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: by earlier. There are two worlds we believe in and

441
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: we live in. And I feel people should understand that

442
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: there is the perception of what's happening and then there's

443
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 3: really what's happening. And you have to be very careful

444
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 3: to figure on how you're going to figure out what's

445
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: really happening. And for me, the only way you can

446
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: figure out what's really happening, like Kaden just spoken, is

447
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: to be there roots go.

448
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: Down and figure out what's going on.

449
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: You can't just listen to someone report to you because

450
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: even if you think about the news right, they only

451
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: tell us what they want us to know. And all

452
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: of these news I would say broadcast, whether CNN, MSNBC, FOTS,

453
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 3: I watch all of them.

454
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: And the reason why I watch all of them is

455
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: because I.

456
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Speaker 3: Want to see what form of mix they're going to

457
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 3: present the world to us in today. But then watching

458
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: it for the past ten years and specifically since COVID,

459
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I got to stop watching and start existing.

460
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 3: And that's in part two when you know you and

461
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: I well. I made the post a couple of weeks

462
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: ago about not doing social media as much because I

463
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: also realize that when you engage in social media, you

464
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 3: become part of the sensationalism and as pure as your

465
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: heart may be. People can take whatever content you have,

466
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: put a spin on it, create a narrative, and then

467
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: create a perception. And it's difficult for me now with

468
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: the kids because the kids are like extensions of us.

469
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: You can create whatever you want to create about me.

470
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: I can deal with it. You can create whatever you

471
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: want to create about my wife as long as I'm

472
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: not if I don't know about it, because then I

473
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: might come after you. But I know that she's mature

474
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: enough to handle. But now handle what's happening now. But

475
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: when it comes to my children, I can't let the

476
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: world create a perception of what my children are doing

477
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: or who they are and just include them in that,

478
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: and then when they get older they look at us

479
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: like that I didn't want to partake in any of this, right.

480
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: So a lot of that is just also realizing that

481
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: it's okay to take things away from the perception tank.

482
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I mean, And that's the part and

483
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: part why we've just been pulling back more in general.

484
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: You know, because for example, we have our Patreon, which

485
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: shout out to our patreon gang. You guys are very

486
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: deliberate about the way you support us, and we appreciate that,

487
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: and that's where we give the exclusive access to our

488
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: family and things like that. But it's becoming even more

489
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: scary with the AI and not knowing what's true from

490
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: what's false, photo shopping like it's just a mess. And

491
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: that's in part two. I when Devlop made a post

492
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: recently about just like it's been real on social media

493
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: and people got alarmed and nervous, like what's going on

494
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: over there? It really was just him saying, yo, like

495
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: this is a lot and there's things that I want

496
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 2: to do in real life. Yes, with my family, with

497
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: my career that does not evolve social media.

498
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: But that's also perception versus reality too, right, because my

499
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: mind wasn't even going there. And even Josh hit me

500
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: up and was just like, yo, you know, if I

501
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: didn't know you, I would you know, I would have to.

502
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: And then I had to realize them even the words

503
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: that I put out were perceived a certain way and

504
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: they didn't really deliver what I wanted them to deliver.

505
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: So I have to be careful with even and that

506
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: to me is scary.

507
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: I can't say how I feel because I have to

508
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: be afraid about how people are going to perceive it.

509
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: That's scary.

510
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying how I feel because and in the post,

511
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact words, but I believe the

512
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: words were, the more you learn about the world, it

513
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: would either harden your heart yes, something that you knowing

514
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: hardening your heart yes. Or you will learn to open

515
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: your mind.

516
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: You said, if the world doesn't open your mind, it

517
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: will harden your heart.

518
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: It's been real, right, So in my thought process, this

519
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: is literally what I was thinking when I when I

520
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: write this, if you don't learn about the world in

521
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: a way where it's going to empower your mind, right,

522
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: all it's going to do is make you dark, because

523
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: you're going to not like everybody or like everything. And

524
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: then it was just like, yo, it's been real, Like

525
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: I just don't want to be on social media all

526
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: the time doing this. I didn't think that people were

527
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: going to perceive it as me talking about taking my

528
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: own life. But then I also have to realize that

529
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: that's other people's perceptions of what people do and.

530
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: When you space, which is scary. Which is scary.

531
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: And I apologize afterwards because I also understand that I

532
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: can't control how people perceive things. So for me to

533
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: say something and expect them to understand why it's coming from.

534
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: It's unfair to me, but it's also unfair to them

535
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: because some people have lost people that way.

536
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: No, for sure, at this day and age, we err

537
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: on the side of caution if people are going to ask,

538
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: are you okay? Because why we're bringing genetic predispositions, We're

539
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: bringing past experiences, prior knowledge, emotions, preconceived notions, self interest, hurt, pain,

540
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: all of that is coming along with a comment or

541
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: a caption or a post man. It really makes you think.

542
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: I hope it makes you, guys think.

543
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: At this point, we're going to take a quick break

544
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: get into some ads. But while we get into these ads,

545
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: I want you guys to really think about what we're

546
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: talking about and how much of your life do you

547
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: feel like or just preconceived notions of other people's opinions

548
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: or really things that you've lived through absolutely And if

549
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: you can't say that you live through all these things

550
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: that you believe, you need to talk a question and

551
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: where you get your.

552
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: Information putent toes down. But in the real world. Thanks,

553
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: all right, y'all will be back.

554
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: All right, We're back, all right.

555
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: Listen a lot of time. Let's dive right in. Hi,

556
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Kadein and Deval. I've been following you guys since Facebook

557
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: days and love you both. Thank you, Love you bad Girl.

558
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: I've been also sharing your content with my husband and

559
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 2: he enjoys you too as well. We also have our

560
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: copy of We Over Me and we have enjoyed it

561
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: so far. My husband and I will be twenty nine

562
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: and thirty this year, and we've been together for twelve

563
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: years and married for two of those years. We, like

564
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: you guys, had a honeymoon baby, and our son will

565
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: be two at the end of this year. I'm expecting

566
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: again and doing July, so our boys will be twenty

567
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: months apart. I know you both, as you both know, pregnancy,

568
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: postpart and breastfeeding, et cetera is hard, especially back to

569
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: back like this, and I would like to be done

570
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: having children after this one. I've talked to my husband

571
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: a few times about this, and he says he is

572
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: happy with two boys, but is not interested in getting

573
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: a vasectomy or me getting my tubes tied. I'm also

574
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: not interested in birth control because I feel like it's

575
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: my responsibility to take on that decision because I can't

576
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: trust that. I can't trust his pullout game, which we

577
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: all know isn't the best method anyway. We also would

578
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: want to be in a marriage that strictly uses protection

579
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: until I hit menopause at all times, which he said

580
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: he would think about getting a vasectomy, but wants time

581
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: to think it over. Okay, Oh no, sorry, by that,

582
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I jumped ahead until menopause, which we know aren't one

583
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: hundred percent effective either. During our last discussion, he said

584
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: that he would think about getting a vasectomy, but wants

585
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: time to think it over. I can't understand how men

586
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: feel a way about vasectomies, but I also don't think

587
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: it's fair for me to take birth control extra hormones.

588
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: Plus I've never been on it, so I have no

589
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: clue which one will work best for my body or

590
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the side effects that I may experience. I know this

591
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: will take some time, but I'm really hoping that he

592
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: will agree to the vasectomy instead.

593
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: This is a perfect question based on what we're talking about,

594
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: perception versus huh.

595
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm literally thinking the same thing, Deval. I know you

596
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 2: have shared that Kadeine didn't make you get a vasectomy.

597
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: You chose to any advice or tuggestions that you too

598
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: can give to help. That will be greatly appreciated. Also

599
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: advice on the snapback trying to take care of two

600
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: under Tukadeen because I'm trying to look like you after

601
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: these two hole boys. Thank you both. PS. Next year

602
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: we will not be pregnant and we'll make it to

603
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: it as live show. That's awesome. Perception versus real.

604
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: Perception versus reality. This is perception.

605
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: Once you get a vasecting me, it's going to hurt

606
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: so bad that for the next three months you won't

607
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: be able to do anything. And I ran on a Monday.

608
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: I got my versector me on a Thursday. I ran

609
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: on a Monday, I had to matter of fact, I

610
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: got my visected me on a Thursday. I had to

611
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: carry Cairo to the literally carry him to the emergency

612
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: on Friday.

613
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: On Friday. So this idea that you like everything's going

614
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: to go wrong and.

615
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: That's a fallacy, that's not true perception perception, Then that'll

616
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: be watery.

617
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: Then that'll be watering. That was a perception I had

618
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: heard about. That is a fallacy.

619
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: That's a fallacy I can attest to that one.

620
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: That's another still creamy, she enjoys it.

621
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Perception once you get a vasected me, your sex drive drop, Fallacy.

622
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I've been on her more than ever in the last

623
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: year and a half. You can ask her, Chad, and

624
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: not for nothing.

625
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: She's been on me more than ever because she's not

626
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: on birth control, so her hormones ain't fucking up her

627
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: sex drive.

628
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Reality, the hormones fuck your sex drive up, and all

629
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: of those side effects are indeed side ect side effects.

630
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: That's a reality reality for sure. Perception. There's such thing

631
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: as a snapback. There's no such thing as a snap back.

632
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: There's a gradual get back, which I did over time,

633
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: because you need to give your body a year or

634
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: two after be able to really get back to your

635
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: baseline nine months minimum, but at least a year a

636
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: year and change to get back to that baseline of hormones,

637
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: whatever that looks like for each woman. So that's indeed

638
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: the whole snapback culture.

639
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Perception and reality perception perception. Once you get a resected me,

640
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: a testostae drops and you won't be able to be

641
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: as strong a workout, Fallacy. I lift more now, I

642
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: run more now, my knees feel better. I'm probably stronger

643
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 3: now than I was in my mid thirties, not as

644
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: strong as I was in my twenties. In my twenties,

645
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: I was lifting to be a professional football player. But

646
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: I can tell you this right now, and this is

647
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the last perception reality thing. Perception is you get to

648
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: afseect me, your life is over reality. I gotta assect me,

649
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: and my sex life has been better.

650
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Than it ever was.

651
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: We not worried about getting reality, were not worried about

652
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: getting pregnant.

653
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Kadeen is not on birth control. I don't even know,

654
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: Like there's no.

655
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: To me, there's been no negatives, no, Like I have

656
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: not had one other than the fact that I can't

657
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: have any more children unless I get it reversed. That

658
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: would have to be the only negative. I have no

659
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: negatives from having to reseect me.

660
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: For sure. If you know, unequivocally, without a doubt that

661
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: you won't want any more children, I would definitely recommend it.

662
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: And I've asked about several times again, like do you

663
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: have any regrets about it? You know, do you feel

664
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: any differently about it? Because that was a decision, yes,

665
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: that he made on his own, but it was also

666
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: to speaking to people who actually did the procedure and

667
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: not speaking to people who have just heard things about vasectomy.

668
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: It's speaking to actual people.

669
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: You know. What's funny.

670
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: All of the people who have made comments because remember

671
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: we did the vasectomy video and there was a bunch

672
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: of dudes over there good luck with this, and no, no,

673
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: no, no no, all of these men who have opinions don't

674
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: have vaseectomies. So what the fuck are.

675
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: You talking about.

676
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: You haven't experienced.

677
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: All you're doing is regurgitating things that you heard from

678
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: other people who claim they've heard it. All of the

679
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: guys who I know who have vasectomies. Because here's another truth.

680
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: There is a baseline of men, a large portion of

681
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: men who after getting married and having children have had vasectomies.

682
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Because remember when I started speaking to the dads around here,

683
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: there were six dads coaching football. I was the fifth

684
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: one to get a vasectomy. So this idea that getting

685
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: of aseectomy is like an anomaly and no one does

686
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: it is not.

687
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: So it's false.

688
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: A lot of men are protecting their wives and protecting

689
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: them your own self interest, but having a pasectomy, yo,

690
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: real talk, Kadeen. At this point, I'm like, yo, babe,

691
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm hard.

692
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: What's up?

693
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: She was like, let's go, she's not worried about getting pregnant.

694
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: It's like our suck. Life has changed. And I didn't

695
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: realize at that point how much went into a woman

696
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: every time she laid down with the guy she has

697
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: in the back of her mind.

698
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely I'm like, get pregnant. I never thought.

699
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: About it, or just not being in the mood and

700
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: having issued. We spoken about all of that over the

701
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: prior seasons because I had the IU d N. It

702
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to be non hormonal, but it was still

703
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: messing with my hormones. My period was coming every three weeks.

704
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: It was ridiculously heavy, like I'm not anemic, Like there

705
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: was just so much, gosh many things. That was the

706
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: reality of what we were experiencing.

707
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not gonna go on on a press tour

708
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: about the second me, but that shit has changed our

709
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: life for the better.

710
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: It really has.

711
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 3: And you know, if he's listening right now, my dude,

712
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: just just look at me. I don't look any smaller.

713
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I've gained musculature, I've changed my dit I've done everything

714
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: to change my die. But after this bessecting me has

715
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: really been good for me. And then if y'all don't

716
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: want to have any more kids. My g really think

717
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: about it, consider it. I did have regretted me. Remember

718
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: after it was like, damn, I can't have any more kids.

719
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: So make sure that you are in the space. And

720
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: after two years and now we have four and the

721
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: coders in that terrible two phase, I have no regrets

722
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: about having no more kids because if we had like

723
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: another child, like a one year old right now, I'd

724
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: be straight. I'd be pulling my fucking hair outs because

725
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: there's no way.

726
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: There's no way. Yeah, there's no way.

727
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: We didn't have no I don't have no energy for it.

728
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: Everything happened as the shit. We have no capacity or

729
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: energy for anything else living. We got a damn plant,

730
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: were trying to keep alive every dayn't have dead listen. Okay,

731
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: all right, good luck to y'all, And if you want

732
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: to be featured as a listener letter write in. Y'all

733
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: email us. Triple cannot wait to get your email with

734
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: your story. Dead ass Advice at gmail dot com is

735
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: where you send it.

736
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: That's D E A D A S. S adv I

737
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: CE at gmail dot com.

738
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: All right, moment of truth time. We're talking perception versus

739
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: reality and how we are literally fed our worlds.

740
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Moment of truth this is I have a simple moment

741
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: of truth.

742
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: There really is a matrix, really is, but a lot

743
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: of us exist in the matrix. Every day when we

744
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: wake up in the first thing we do is go

745
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: on Instagram or YouTube or TikTok a right. Unplug yourself

746
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: from the matrix. Get out here and travel the world,

747
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: actually see things. Don't go on there to see what

748
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: the pyramids look like on your phone. Go to egyptancy

749
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: the pyramids, you know. Don't don't listen to someone else's

750
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: opinion about that movie. Go watch the movie. You know

751
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Don't don't listen to someone's opinion about

752
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: who you should vote for. Go listen to these people

753
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: speak at events and figure out if this candidate is

754
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: the right candidate for me.

755
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Let's get out of the matrix. Ladies and gentlemen.

756
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: I love that. Get out of the matrix. Let's point

757
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: out let's be the hashtag for me. It's pretty simple

758
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: as well too. I want to encourage people to, for

759
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: lack of a better I guess terminology, put your feet

760
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: back in the soil, like of where you want to

761
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: be connect again. I know that things got really weird,

762
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: especially after the whole pandemic COVID and all that, but like,

763
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: just reconnect with people. I feel like we are in

764
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: a curated space where we think that everything that exists

765
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: is what is the be, all that ends all right.

766
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: But when you when you travel, when you are cultured,

767
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: when you get out there and you start to see

768
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: different parts of the world, realize how minuscule your life is.

769
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: You realize how minuscule your surroundings and your immediate curated

770
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: life is. There's so much more going on. We went

771
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: to Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and we went back

772
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 2: to where my father is from. Like literally we got

773
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: off the resort. We went back into actual Saint Vincent

774
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: and traveled a bit and we saw some things, and

775
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: we went to my family's lands. Yes, shout outs to

776
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: rich Than Park, Mesopotamia area. We were all up in there.

777
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: And we went back to my family's land and the

778
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: Valini stood there and we just looked around. Beauty, okay,

779
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: just beauty in nature, untouched untouched nature. Just literally sparkling

780
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: water coming out of the mountain.

781
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: No, literally like literally sparkling water, yes, kind of.

782
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: The mountains and running through a street that you can

783
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: just it was.

784
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: Just beautiful, and you just realize how small your world is,

785
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: and it gets even smaller when you're just consuming from devices.

786
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: We also learned a lot about who your father is,

787
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: because as kids, we learned about our parents through what

788
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: they say. Yeah, and everyone else's perspective of who they are.

789
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: So it's all perception.

790
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: Going back and seeing how your father was raised, I understand, yes,

791
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: why that man takes your shoes off and goes and

792
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: all he cares about is his garden in the back.

793
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: That's because insane gardening is.

794
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: Life, yes, far I mean live off of the grounds

795
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: in which they live, like they they grow everything you see,

796
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: They've grown it, the animals, they've raised them.

797
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: That's why your father's so one with the nature.

798
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: And absolutely so my perception is like, oh Dad, you're

799
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: stuck in like the nineteen seventies in Saint Vincent, When

800
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: the reality is is that is how he was grown

801
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: and that is what Saint Vincent is. Literally all about

802
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: the nature, the beauty, And I can understand why maybe

803
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: as a as an island, as a country, they're not

804
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: as interested in tourism per se. No you know, yes,

805
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: it'll bring in dollars, but think about all of the

806
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: nature and the beauty of the island that may have

807
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: to be interfered with in order to make certain places

808
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: accessible for tourism. So I have a respect for Saint

809
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: Vincent if they're just like, y'all, we like our little

810
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: country and what we're doing over here, because the reality is,

811
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: y'all gonna come in here and fuck up what we

812
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: got going on, and it's not worth it.

813
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: Things are good for money. Some things are good for money,

814
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: you know.

815
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: But it's like, if I enjoy living on the planet

816
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: and living on the earth, I don't need to make

817
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: a good jillions of dollars to enjoy my life. So

818
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: every island is not open to tourism because every island

819
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: doesn't want to pretty much destroy what it is that

820
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: the island is supposed to be about.

821
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,360
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