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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It is another Fox Football Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Carmen Vitally, and I have Tracy Sandler, CEO

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Speaker 2: of Fangirls Sports Network and forty nine Ers beer reporter

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Speaker 2: right alongside me. Trace, How you doing. I think I

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Speaker 2: have a feeling about how you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I am great, honestly, could not be better.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with football like at the current moment.

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Speaker 3: No, nothing at all. Well, a little bit college, mainly baseball,

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Speaker 3: mainly baseball, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Tracy was on hand last night as the Dodgers advanced.

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Speaker 2: Looked like it looked like a scene.

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Speaker 3: Trace, it was a scene. Oh, it was a scene

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Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium. I know I'm gonna sound way not current

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Speaker 3: when I say this, but Dodger Stadium was rockin'. It

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Speaker 3: was Poppin. There we go. It was Poppin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Poppin's better, Trace, I really not.

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Speaker 3: Pro probably know it better at all. But it was

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Speaker 3: both Rocket and Poppin. And now using both of them

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Speaker 3: just I think puts me in a whole other stress.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you got to be there. Tracy

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Speaker 2: is a die hard Dodgers fan, what you had season

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Speaker 2: tickets like your whole life?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole life. My grandparents fought the tickets we

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Speaker 3: have in nineteen sixty two in the stadium open. Then

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Speaker 3: this is incredible. These tickets are our family.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just love sports for the for this exact reason.

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Speaker 2: Like it just they bring people together in so many ways.

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Speaker 2: They bridge generations. I mean, it's just it's it's crazy

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Speaker 2: to me too, especially in a place like Dodger Stadium,

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Speaker 2: when you are like in the same place, like the

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Speaker 2: legitimately same place that like your grandparents were doing the

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Speaker 2: exact same thing your grandparents were doing forty five fifty

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they were crying when the Dodgers won,

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Speaker 3: but they may have been. It's a possibility, definitely as

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Speaker 3: a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy for you. All Right, We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to a little bit more Major League Baseball stuff and

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Speaker 2: we have a whole full football slate for you. We

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's go bite. I know, I just

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Speaker 2: had all of the football setup. But I want to

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Speaker 2: keep talking a little bit about these MLB playoffs. Listen, Tracy,

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Speaker 2: I just I know that you have so many things

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Speaker 3: I still can't wrap my head around with shoho Tony

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Speaker 3: I feel, and this is gonna sound so cheesy, but

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Speaker 3: I really feel lucky to get to watch him and

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Speaker 3: to get to be there. But pitching six score listenings,

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Speaker 3: tense strikeouts and then hitting three home runs, and on

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Speaker 3: not in this NLCS series, and he comes out here

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Speaker 3: and he's like, all right, cool, not a problem. Watch this.

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Speaker 3: One of the home runs went out of the stadium.

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Speaker 3: It may have landed in Bakersfield. Who's to say, it's

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Speaker 2: Perhaps it's I mean, it's incredible, and I honestly I

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Speaker 2: do like even as someone who did not grow up

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Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeah, yeah, I had I made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Like we were right to the west, so we were

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like the team that only Chicago people like,

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Speaker 2: okay and so. And then a few years later they

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Speaker 2: rewarded me with World Series in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: So then, but like it set me up for an

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Speaker 2: overall lifetime of disappointment. But it's fine, They're still my team.

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Speaker 2: But even even saying all of that, and even having

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Speaker 2: is incredible what shohe Atani has done. He has revolutionized

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Speaker 2: the sport. It's not hyperbole to say that I do

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Speaker 2: think that in fifty sixty years, seventy years we are

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Speaker 3: I think they because of Showy.

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Speaker 2: In the way that you talk about Mickey Mantle or

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Speaker 2: that is what Shoheo Tani is doing right now. And

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see like Joey Atani will not

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Speaker 2: be the last of his kind, but he was certainly

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Speaker 2: the first. Yeah, which is which is? It is? So

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Speaker 2: you are we are kind of lucky that we get to,

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Speaker 3: And one thing on the Dodgers, because there's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of talk about this all this week, that buying

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Speaker 3: of the day, a lot of people can do that.

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Speaker 3: They made the choice to do that. Everybody has a

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Speaker 3: choice how to spend their money. Certainly not my decision,

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Speaker 3: how they do that. And they also have a tremendous

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Speaker 3: farm system and guys that work really, really hard, and

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Speaker 3: I think that gets lost in it. And I understand

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Speaker 3: is fair. It's just it's how they're doing it. But

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Speaker 3: it's also the people they have. And I know I'm

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Speaker 3: but they also do have a tremendous farmist and they

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Speaker 5: If people are rolling their eyes at that, like did

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Speaker 5: payroll make your eBay throw that ball away at first

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Speaker 5: base and score a run? Like Pat Murphy was honestly

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Speaker 5: the most annoying person alive this entire week the way

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Speaker 5: he framed this series. The Brewers won ninety seven games,

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Speaker 5: like I'm sorry you guys couldn't win a postseason game.

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Speaker 5: But like the Dodgers this entire run, their whole thing

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Speaker 5: has been not making mistakes and capitalizing when you do,

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Speaker 5: and that's what they did in the NLCS.

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Speaker 6: Also, as someone who has no ties the Dodgers or

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Speaker 6: LA Sports at all whatsoever, Like I know, I saw

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Speaker 6: another account on X the last night saying, like, I'm

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Speaker 6: not blaming the Dodgers for this, Blame the Twins. Blame

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Speaker 6: the Athletics, who can't even get their own stadium. Blame

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Speaker 6: the Marlins who blew up to not one, but two

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Speaker 6: World Series winning franchises, I mean rosters. Blame the Rockies

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Speaker 6: for being cheap, be the angel Blame the Angels for

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Speaker 6: like letting Otani walk. Blame every other owner who is

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Speaker 6: unspeakably cheap in this sport, rather than an organization that

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Speaker 6: everyone wants their organization to be, which is spend well

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Speaker 6: and develop well and do everything right. But instead we

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Speaker 6: have to listen to the Jerry Rhines doors of the

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Speaker 6: world complain about how they can't pay money, like this

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Speaker 6: isn't a George Steinbrenner situation. Like you guys are free

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Speaker 6: to do this too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Christian Yelich has paid just as much

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Speaker 5: what one infield hit the entire series? Well, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: spare me with that.

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Speaker 3: Is this the greatest segment ever on radio?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, also, there's a soft captain baseball for a reason.

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Speaker 2: So if and if you want to be competitive and

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Speaker 2: you want that competitive edge, and you say you're gonna

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Speaker 2: also doesn't guarantee anything either, So the doctors deserve credit

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Speaker 2: for that. All right.

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Speaker 3: In the other in the al right, there's another series.

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Speaker 2: There's another there's a champiship series that it's still going on.

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Speaker 2: The Alcs. The Seattle leads three to two. There are

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Speaker 2: who gets to face the Dodgers in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: It'll be fun, it will be that was that was

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Speaker 2: that was was a good segment, guys. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: But we are here to talk about football, and I

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Speaker 2: now that is near and dear to my heart, the

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Why I I'm gonna pose a very

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Speaker 2: simple question. In fact, are they the best team in

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Speaker 3: Yes, very very I keep her agreeing with me, So

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Speaker 3: there you go. Well, and I was there last week.

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Speaker 3: So the Nighters played Tampa last week, so I saw

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Speaker 3: is playing out of his mind. First of all. I'm

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Speaker 3: just playing tremendous football, mistake free football at this moment

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Speaker 3: in time. And we've talked before, a lot of parody

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Speaker 3: in the league right now, and this is the most

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Speaker 3: But as of this moment in time, I am saying

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Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the best team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I mean with all of the injuries and just a

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Speaker 2: coaching masterclass that went on last week between the Bucks

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Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers. In fact, because the forty

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Speaker 2: with theirs Shanahan, longtime offensive veteran this league, Todd Bowles,

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Speaker 2: longtime defensive veteran in this league, and it was just

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Speaker 2: it was a chess match every step of the way.

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Speaker 2: And what really gets me like, and it has for

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Speaker 2: like the last couple of years, the Bucks have won

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Speaker 2: their division. The last four years. They have been in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs the last five. This is not the Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers that I originally started working for in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: suffered back to back five and eleven seasons. Was there

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Speaker 2: for the thirty and thirty year for Jamis Winston. That

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Speaker 2: is not these Bucks. They don't get nobody trusts them.

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Speaker 2: And despite the fact that when they are down literally

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Speaker 2: Okay, go bu It's go Bucks. It's been go Bucks.

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Speaker 3: I think that's so fun.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so fun to talk about another resilient team,

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Speaker 3: I could not agree more and I know we're gonna

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Speaker 3: This game is gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: It really is. All right, well, we are going to

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Speaker 2: What's up, guys, It is Fox Football Saturday. I'm carme vitally.

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Speaker 2: I've got Tracy Sandler with me. We talked to actually

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Speaker 2: are also here to perhaps time travel. Now. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: the toughest to win, they were going to be you know,

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Speaker 2: it was just they were the hardest divisions in football

435
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Speaker 2: we have seen. You know, the Ravens have obviously dropped off,

436
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Speaker 2: they have their issues, and the Bengals with Joe Burrow

437
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Speaker 2: getting hurt, and like, you know, whatever the Browns are.

438
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's now become it's it's maybe not

439
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Speaker 2: the most competitive division. And it almost seems like the

440
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Speaker 2: Steelers have been the front runners now to win this

441
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Speaker 2: division because they are getting really good play out of

442
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers won Earl Aaron Rodgers. But that being said,

443
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Speaker 2: even if that's still true, and if we think that

444
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Speaker 2: the Steelers are still going to win this division, do

445
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Speaker 2: we think based on Thursday's performance and knowing that there

446
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Speaker 2: is the capability for this kind of offensive production with

447
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco at the helm, can Joe Flacco float the

448
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Speaker 2: Bengals so that when Joe Burrow does come back, hopefully

449
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Speaker 2: in December whatever, that they could still contend, maybe not

450
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Speaker 2: for the division, but for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 3: Well, based on the performance from the other night, Yes,

452
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Speaker 3: because the thing is they do have great tremendous offensive weapons.

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Speaker 3: They just the last few weeks had no one to

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Speaker 3: throw those weapons the ball and if Joe Flacco, even

455
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Speaker 3: if he doesn't have quite that performance, if he can

456
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Speaker 3: get the ball in the hands of Jamar Chase, if

457
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Speaker 3: they can make this offense work, I think they do

458
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Speaker 3: have a chance. So yes, I'm going to say that

459
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the Bengals have hope. I'm not

460
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Speaker 3: guaranteeing them contending, but I would say the Bengals have

461
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Speaker 3: a hope today that even a week ago they did

462
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Speaker 3: not have.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I agree with you, and I

464
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Speaker 2: think it's more Yes, Joe Flacco, as long as you

465
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Speaker 2: can get the ball to Jamar Chase, T Higgins Andrey Oshvaz,

466
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Speaker 2: like any of those guys great like you don't need

467
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Speaker 2: to like you don't you don't need to have performance

468
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Speaker 2: you did on Thursday, right, And that's also because that

469
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Speaker 2: performance on Thursday was a company by Chase Brown going

470
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Speaker 2: over one hundred yards rushing on the day eleven attempts,

471
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eight yards nine point eight yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: So if you have a complimentary run game in Cincinnati,

473
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Speaker 2: that Joe Flacco can kind of lean on, so he

474
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to have a nearly three hundred and fifty

475
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Speaker 2: yard passing performance every game. Then I think I'm kinda like,

476
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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, is they got a chance?

478
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Speaker 2: I just I also just want to believe in the

479
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Speaker 2: Bengals so bad.

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Speaker 3: I do too, and I the Bengals. I'm not big

481
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Speaker 3: on Ohio football for the obvious reasons, but Tracy, Yeah,

482
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Speaker 3: so I would just not big on that. But I

483
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Speaker 3: have to say, like the Bengals, I kind of have

484
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Speaker 3: a little soft spot for not just because my good

485
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: friend Conrad Fisher plays quarterback for them, but I do

486
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Speaker 3: just have a little soft spot for them, and I'd

487
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Speaker 3: like to see them succeed. I mean, it's just it's

488
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Speaker 3: just kind of sad when this happens. So I I

489
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Speaker 3: think it's I think they got a possibility. I think

490
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco is obviously a veteran quarterback. He knows what

491
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Speaker 3: to do. He can run the offense, and that's really

492
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Speaker 3: all they need because of all the playmakers that we've mentioned,

493
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Speaker 3: they just need someone to be able to run the

494
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Speaker 3: offense and get them the ball. The complimentary run game

495
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Speaker 3: is huge. If the defense can just sort of keep

496
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Speaker 3: it together.

497
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Speaker 2: Just be like I've said it before, just be bad.

498
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Speaker 3: Don't be like they'll yeah, it's just be bad.

499
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Speaker 2: You don't even have to be average, just don't be bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's totally fair. That is I think

501
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Speaker 3: that's totally fair. So, you know, let's see what happens.

502
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Speaker 3: But I'm in on it. I think what a fun

503
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Speaker 3: game that was Thursday night. I think this is funny.

504
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Speaker 3: It's just cool.

505
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Speaker 2: It's cool. I'm in on it too, And I'm also

506
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Speaker 2: in on up to break from Martin Weiss.

507
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Speaker 9: Right now at cap Randall, it is not looking pretty.

508
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 9: Seventeen to nothing, ten minutes left in the second quarter,

509
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Speaker 9: Ohio State in the lead. You know, Wisconsin coach Luke

510
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Speaker 9: Fickle was a former Ohio State assistant and Tracy, You'll

511
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Speaker 9: be interested to know the one time that Michigan be

512
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Speaker 9: Ohio State when I was an.

513
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Speaker 10: Undergrad, Luke Fickle was the interim head coach.

514
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Speaker 3: So oh, Luke Fickle forever.

515
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Speaker 9: I salute you. Luke Finck just got on the games.

516
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Speaker 9: Other games going all right now around college football, you

517
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Speaker 9: have number three Indiana with a fourteenth to ten lead

518
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Speaker 9: over Michigan State. Michigan State's winless in the Big Ten.

519
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Speaker 9: Indiana undefeated on the season so far. Third rand team

520
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Speaker 9: in the nation, Number five ranked Old Miss trailing on

521
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Speaker 9: the road and against Georgia Top ten match up here

522
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Speaker 9: in the sec thirteen minutes left in the first half

523
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Speaker 9: ten to seven to score Bulldogs in front as a

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Speaker 9: new leads Clemson ten to nothing with ten minutes left

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Speaker 9: in the first half.

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Speaker 10: There excuse me.

527
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Speaker 9: And then earlier today we saw Michigan with a hearty

528
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Speaker 9: win against Washington twenty four to seven.

529
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Speaker 2: Are always forgetting to do the show with two Michigan grats.

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Speaker 3: Listen, who was a heardy win? He's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, I'm bringing another big ten guy in a junior So.

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Speaker 6: Would you like would you like a bomb against against

533
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Speaker 6: the Michigan propaganda for a second?

534
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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I think we out one years ago?

536
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Speaker 2: What happened ten years ago?

537
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Speaker 10: I get it out?

538
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Speaker 11: Whoa he has trouble with a strap and the balls free.

539
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Speaker 10: It's picked up by Michigan stakes.

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Speaker 4: Chenalen watched Jackson and his stars all the last player

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Speaker 4: of the kid that.

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Speaker 10: Wasn't nice simply don't call for you? You know what

543
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Speaker 10: what did we do?

544
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Speaker 2: I'm about to gang up on you guys with this

545
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Speaker 2: next guest too.

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Speaker 10: So I'm done, Carl Man, I'm back. I'm done.

547
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Speaker 9: You know Vanderbilt one, Georgia Tech one, Oklahoma one.

548
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Speaker 10: I'm done back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Martin. And as I just teased, we have

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Speaker 2: a wonderful guest joining us right now. His name a

551
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Speaker 2: Q Shipley. His game he's the Cardinals play by play announcer,

552
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Speaker 2: radio play by play announcer. Now he appears on the

553
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Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show and does his in the Trenches segment

554
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: giving kudos to offensive line play everywhere. Former offensive linemen

555
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, Rimington Trophy winner and Penn State grad

556
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Speaker 2: a Q. Shipley, how are you hun?

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Speaker 12: What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Hello, I'm so excited. I'm We're great? Are you great? Actually?

559
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Speaker 2: Because we can just start with the Big Ten? Uh?

560
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Speaker 2: With Penn State now ousting James Franklin. How you feeling? Ce?

561
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Speaker 4: I don't even know if I can take allegiance anymore.

562
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Speaker 4: They might kick Penn State out of the Big Ten

563
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Speaker 4: after they lost to Northwestern and UCLA back to back week.

564
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Speaker 2: So hey, no Northwestern slander either. Come on here, you're

565
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Speaker 2: supposed to be my house.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, with all due respect, if I ever

567
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Speaker 4: lost to Northwestern, I would have transferred.

568
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Speaker 2: When I was at Enna State, I can't lose to

569
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Speaker 2: the nerds. You just can't lose to the nerds it.

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Speaker 2: Did you support the move? Did you think it was time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think we're in a results driven business

572
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Speaker 4: right now. And I think whenever you're paying a guy

573
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Speaker 4: twelve million dollars a year and he's won one game

574
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Speaker 4: against a top five opponent, four against top ten opponents,

575
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Speaker 4: I think it's like four and twenty he's something. I

576
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Speaker 4: think against top ten and one in sixteen and against

577
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Speaker 4: top five, Like, you can't give a guy a forty

578
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Speaker 4: million dollar roster, pay him twelve million dollars a year

579
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Speaker 4: and lose three games in a row and think you're

580
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Speaker 4: going to keep your job. I just think in today's game,

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Speaker 4: I think that is a very unrealistic expectation.

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Speaker 12: So better to.

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Speaker 4: Get out and ahead of it, because there's going to

584
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Speaker 4: be a lot of coaches that are upper jobs and

585
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Speaker 4: a lot of firings here recently, Florida just did their thing,

586
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Speaker 4: and then obviously there's going to be a bunch more

587
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Speaker 4: at the end of the season.

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Speaker 12: So I think the fact that they got ahead of

589
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Speaker 12: it and got the.

590
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Speaker 4: First firing, now they're ahead of the next head coaching cycle.

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Speaker 3: Is it my imagination or also James Franklin. I never

592
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Speaker 3: saw him take any responsibility for any loss. It was

593
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Speaker 3: his player's fault, it was the rest fault. It was

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Speaker 3: ever Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad somebody else saw it that way.

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Speaker 12: That's definitely refreshing to see. I think a lot of

597
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Speaker 12: people saw it that way.

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Speaker 4: I think he h he found every excuse in the books. Recently.

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Speaker 12: I think, listen, I think I think when.

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Speaker 4: You look back at James Franklin's legacy, I think every

601
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Speaker 4: Penn stator is going to sit there and be grateful

602
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Speaker 4: because he took over that program when they were in

603
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Speaker 4: the depths of.

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Speaker 12: Hell, basically.

605
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Speaker 4: Brought them back to life, made it sustainable, kept them

606
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Speaker 4: consistently winning nine ten games a year for the most part,

607
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Speaker 4: and really brought them back to national prominence where they

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Speaker 4: were previously. And but yeah, as of recently, I think

609
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Speaker 4: it was it was constantly it was say, let's blame

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Speaker 4: the travel, let's blame this, let's blame that. It was

611
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Speaker 4: never you know, it was my fault until the very

612
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: last game He's like, hey, listen, he blamed like four

613
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Speaker 4: other excuses, and then I ultimately came back took took

614
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Speaker 4: the blame himself, but then put it back on the players.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, just just the mixed messages.

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Speaker 2: You can't have it well, all right, C I want

617
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Speaker 2: to get back to the NFL because you have your

618
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Speaker 2: like you have your segment on Pat McAfee and it's

619
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Speaker 2: in the trenches and you're highlighting offensive line play across

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Speaker 2: the league and I really appreciate it. The discourse needs

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Speaker 2: more offensive line discourse, Like there's just needs to be

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Speaker 2: more talked about when it comes to offensive lines. And

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Speaker 2: I want to know, from your perspective, through the first

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Speaker 2: seven weeks of the season, who has which team has

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Speaker 2: the best offensive line?

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Speaker 12: Such a good question.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think when you talk, this year has

628
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Speaker 4: been very weird because when you look across the league

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Speaker 4: last year it was really good. I mean there's four

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Speaker 4: or five of offensive lines that were very good, and

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Speaker 4: I think when you look at this year, it's like

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Speaker 4: week to week.

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Speaker 12: I mean you get one week where.

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Speaker 4: The teams that you thought were going to have good

635
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Speaker 4: offensive lines, the Detroit lines and you know, the Baltimore

636
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Speaker 4: Ravens in Week one, and then all of a sudden,

637
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Speaker 4: Baltimore has dropped off a cliff. Detroit's up and down.

638
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: They're very inconsistent. To me, the most consistent offensive lines

639
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Speaker 4: are the Indianapolis Colts and the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 12: I think those are the two most consistent lines.

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Speaker 4: I think Caroline has really come on in the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks because they've really committed to the run game.

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Speaker 4: But Detroit's been pretty good. Whenever they've won, they've been

644
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Speaker 4: pretty good.

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Speaker 12: But again, the games that they've lost, they've been pretty bad.

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Speaker 12: So it's been pretty inconsistent.

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Speaker 4: Rushing yards across the league or down almost thirty yards

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Speaker 4: per game, which I think is a combination of a

649
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Speaker 4: bunch of different factors.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, I think if you're just asking me right now,

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Speaker 12: the top two i'd say.

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Speaker 4: Would be Indianapolis and Atlanta as the most consistent, just.

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Speaker 2: Like we all thought going into the season.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that's definitely how we predicted it. Can you

655
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Speaker 3: give us a little bit as soon as I had

656
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Speaker 3: intricacies of an offensive lineman, because if there's one thing

657
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Speaker 3: that teams fans complain about a lot, it's the play

658
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Speaker 3: of the offensive line. And it's very hard to be

659
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Speaker 3: a very good offensive lineman. And I'm just sorry if

660
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Speaker 3: you can give us a little bit of the intricacies

661
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Speaker 3: of what it's like building chemistry along the line and

662
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Speaker 3: how difficult that is, and why the league is having

663
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Speaker 3: so much trouble finding really tremendous lines all over the place.

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Speaker 12: I think it's a combination. Honestly.

665
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Speaker 4: I think the biggest analogy that I like to give

666
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Speaker 4: the people is, Okay, you got von Miller and his

667
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: prime across across from UNI's two hundred and fifty pounds

668
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: and runs of four to four forty and can bend

669
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: like a wide receiver, and you want me sixty times

670
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: a game to block him going backwards while he's going

671
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: forwards and doing everything you can do, right, I think

672
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Speaker 4: I think that's the best analogy that you can you

673
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: can give. I think it's it's one of the hardest positions,

674
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Speaker 4: especially now, Like I'm glad I got out when I

675
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: got out, because they just keep getting bigger, stronger, faster.

676
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Speaker 12: When I first came into the league, there was one.

677
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Speaker 4: Guy on every team that you got to worry about,

678
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Speaker 4: and you could game plan for that guy. And now

679
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: every team has three guys. Every single team has three

680
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: guys across the league. You got two really good edge

681
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: guys and then you've got somebody that's really good on

682
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Speaker 4: the inside. So from that perspective, I think that's what

683
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Speaker 4: makes it super hard.

684
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Speaker 12: And I think you know, as you say, there and.

685
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Speaker 4: You try and you know, get these guys that are

686
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Speaker 4: more athletic, Well then now they get bigger again.

687
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Speaker 12: Now you look at Jordan.

688
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: Davis over in Philadelphia and he's six six, three hundred

689
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: and forty five pounds and can run right and so

690
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Speaker 4: it's like they're just freaked everywhere on the defensive side

691
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Speaker 4: of the ball, and I think we've struggled to maintain

692
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Speaker 4: and match up from an offensive standpoint.

693
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Speaker 2: I always like to say too that the college game,

694
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Speaker 2: I think offensive line is one of the positions where

695
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Speaker 2: it's hardest, or like the discrepancy between the college game

696
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: and the pro game are are the It's the biggest

697
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Speaker 2: where these guys are being asked to do stuff that

698
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Speaker 2: they were never asked to do in college. And then

699
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Speaker 2: you add on the talent that comes with the league.

700
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Speaker 2: Like you're talking about these defensive freaks that you're now

701
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Speaker 2: lining up across from, and if you're coming from an

702
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Speaker 2: FCS school, god forbid, or like one of you know,

703
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: even the acc these guys are just bigger, faster, stronger

704
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Speaker 2: than anything you've experienced. But the game itself is different.

705
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Speaker 2: But what do you see as far is that trending?

706
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Speaker 2: Is that gap winding or is it narrowing? Do you think.

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Speaker 12: No, No, that's a fair point.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a great point, actually, because I talk

709
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Speaker 4: about that all the time too. It's like when you

710
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Speaker 4: look at the college game. Whenever I came out from

711
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Speaker 4: Penn State in two thousand and eight, it mirrored a

712
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Speaker 4: lot of the systems that you saw in the NFL.

713
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Speaker 4: Now you turn on Ole Miss and Georgia and they're

714
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Speaker 4: running RPOs and spread and they're not taking any snaps

715
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Speaker 4: under center. And so now if you go to a

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Speaker 4: team that is Sean McVeigh, for instance, who's you're a

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Speaker 4: quarterback and you're under center, you know twenty five to

718
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: thirty times a game, and you've never taken a snap

719
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Speaker 4: under center, that's interesting for that quarterback.

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Speaker 12: Now, and then from an offensive.

721
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Speaker 4: Line standpoint, you're not asked to do as much in

722
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Speaker 4: the run game because now all you're doing is tone.

723
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Speaker 12: Guys say like just just block left, Everybody go left.

724
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Speaker 4: We're going to read this backside guy, we're going to

725
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Speaker 4: run an RPO, which is a run pass option off

726
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Speaker 4: of it, and then we're going to run play action

727
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Speaker 4: naked boots and get our best athletes, who's our quarterback

728
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Speaker 4: out in space and give him a two.

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Speaker 12: Way go the whole game. And so now you get.

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Speaker 4: Into the NFL and it's like, oh, well, now I

731
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Speaker 4: have to know, Hey, we're sliding to the will, and

732
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Speaker 4: if the will drops and they bring the free safety,

733
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Speaker 4: we have to sort out to that. And you got

734
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Speaker 4: to do all these different things that I'm probably sounding

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Speaker 4: like I'm speaking a different language.

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Speaker 2: But that's what it is. Yeah, it is exactly, That's

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 12: That's what it is at the NFL level.

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Speaker 4: And you have to know so much, and the quarterbacks

740
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: have to know so much, offensive linemen have to know

741
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Speaker 4: and everybody has to be on the same page because

742
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: if kenneb eleven are doing the right thing and one

743
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Speaker 4: person's wrong, it's probably going to be a negative play.

744
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: And that's that's the beautiful thing about the game of football.

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Speaker 2: This is why I could I could have this discussion

746
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Speaker 2: for hours, and this is why I always try to

747
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: kind of give a little peek behind the curtain when

748
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: it comes to offensive lines, because it's so it's not

749
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Speaker 2: a quantifiable, viable position in the way that like receivers are,

750
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: where you know they have touchdown production and the reartage production.

751
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: It's very tangible. An offensive line play isn't. But that

752
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's any less intricate. So thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming on CUE again. I could talk to

754
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Speaker 2: you for two more hours about this, and I probably

755
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Speaker 2: will later on, but really appreciate you taking the time

756
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: and have so much fun this weekend as you get

757
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: said to call your next Cardinals game.

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Speaker 12: Always a pleasure, guys.

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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, Happy Saturday. All right, you guys, We've got

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Speaker 2: more coming up for you. We've got the dues and

761
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the don'ts. On the other side of this. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to Fox Football Saturday. I should have expected this one.

763
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: Now I'm really stuck in a wormhole. Guys. It's Carmon Vitally.

764
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Speaker 2: I've got Tracy Sandler with me. It's Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: If you were with us for a couple of segments,

766
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Speaker 2: Ago talked about time travel and how I think I

767
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: witnessed or I was part of a glitch in the

768
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Speaker 2: matrix earlier today, and it had to do with this song.

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Speaker 2: So you know, if you haven't, yeah, the first time

770
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Speaker 2: you're bringing it up. Oh god stop. I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where I am. I don't know what

772
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: year it is, I don't know what day it is.

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Speaker 2: Just just it's fine. But what I do know is that, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's time for the dues and the don'ts of the

775
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Speaker 2: week highlighting.

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Speaker 1: I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 2: The subject brings me no joy. That that's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the deuce and the don'ts in sports, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, ty Sa, I'm gonna start us off because I've

780
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: got a don't. Okay, don't let anyone tell you your limitations.

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: The Chicago Marathon happened last weekend, and I stumbled across

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Speaker 2: a reel on Instagram from Justine Wang, who ran the marathon.

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Speaker 2: But not only did she run the marathon, she put

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Speaker 2: together a reel of everything she drank along the route.

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Speaker 2: And if this isn't the most Chicago thing you've ever

786
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Speaker 2: heard in your life, this woman ran the Chicago Marathon

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Speaker 2: and had shot after shot after sip of all different

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Speaker 2: kinds of alcohol. I mean, she has videos of her

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Speaker 2: taking so many different fireball shots, almost twenty six drinks

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Speaker 2: for all twenty six miles, and she like finished with

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Speaker 2: a smile on her face after literally there were Millard shots.

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Speaker 2: There was, like I said, multiple fire balls, there was Espresso, Martini's, Perseco,

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Speaker 2: shallow shots. People were just handing her stuff as she's running,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I've never been more proud of my city,

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Speaker 2: and I've never been more in awe of an athlete

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Speaker 2: than miss Justine went. So kudos to you, girl, because

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Speaker 2: I would be on the floor. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I like, I still I'm watching the video and you

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Speaker 2: see her take these shots unless she's spitting them out

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Speaker 2: after this, like she legitimately drank that much while she

801
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Speaker 2: ran a marathon, and you know what, maybe that's what

802
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna take to get me into running. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I mean I would be also on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Or I know I would not be standing. I have

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Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that this girl is in

806
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Speaker 2: her like early twenties, because I'm like, honey, no, not anymore.

807
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe ten years ago, but no.

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Speaker 3: When you I mean, when you tell me that segment,

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Speaker 3: I beforehand, I would have said, don't run a marathon

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Speaker 3: and take shots, But now I feel like that's a

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Speaker 3: do run a marathon and take you I don't know, is.

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Speaker 2: That what makes running a marathon bearable? I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're drunk, I could do a lot of things when

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Speaker 2: I'm drunk.

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Speaker 3: Runner, No runners chime in, tell us, tell us about

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Speaker 3: how you get through these marathon I did.

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Speaker 2: See some people in the comments saying, like, you know,

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00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: fireball and stuff that's all sugar, So that's fuel, and

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Speaker 2: like you do have like you know, when you're running

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Speaker 2: a marathon, like you will have like electrolyte packets with you,

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Speaker 2: like sugar packets. Like I don't know. I don't pretend

822
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: to know the science behind it, but like it is,

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00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: it's fuel, and like it's it's a way to keep

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Speaker 2: yourself going and sit up for your muscles to eat

825
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Speaker 2: basically as you're like exerting them to this crazy degree.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there's something behind that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not gonna test it though I know myself

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Speaker 3: it won't go well, it won't end well. I don't

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even do it, like before doing a bar

830
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Speaker 3: method class, I don't think it would go well at all,

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Speaker 3: So I actually have I'm gonna go with the dew

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Speaker 3: I have, but I'm gonna go with the dew. And

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Speaker 3: you know what, we talked about it before. But do

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Speaker 3: be Joe Flacco. I mean, this guy, it's kind of incredible.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just do turn back the hands of.

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Speaker 3: Time and do turn back the hands of time. But

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Speaker 3: I think what's been cool about Joe Flacco is he

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Speaker 3: was I think the beginning of the joke of is

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Speaker 3: he elite? You know, that was the big thing, him

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Speaker 3: being called.

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Speaker 2: You the first?

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00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: Like he was the first. I think he was the first.

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00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: Is someone said he was elite and it became is

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Speaker 3: he elite? I'm I'm not one hundred percent year, but

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it started with Joe Flacco. And this

846
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: man has been Like, whether I'm a leader or not,

847
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: I am going to keep playing football. I am in

848
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: my forties. I'm just gonna go from team to team.

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00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to run their offenses until someone until I

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00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: have to go to another team to fill in and

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Speaker 3: run their offense. So do beat Joe Flacco. Keep it going.

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 3: I have a whole new respect for this man.

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Speaker 2: I reallyize it's it's incredible. Like I said, I'm in

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Speaker 2: my thirties and there's a whole lot of stuff that

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Speaker 2: cracks when I get out of the bed in the morning.

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Speaker 2: So Chris has our technical producer, Chris Prefett has a

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Speaker 2: do or don't. I don't know how you're phrasing it,

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Speaker 2: like I want to hear it.

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Speaker 10: Do have a mass cat?

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Long?

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Speaker 6: As long snapper for the Bowling Green State Falcons, George Carlson,

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Speaker 6: he spent a year in rehab for a knee injury,

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Speaker 6: and he got in and he has an emotional support

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Speaker 6: animal that's now gone. I rolled by the name of

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Speaker 6: Pudge the cat.

868
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: Touch the cat. You don't know.

869
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 6: He has been at every broadcast of every game for

870
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 6: Bowling Green this year. Uh you know, Bowling Green coached

871
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: by Eddie George and this this you know, pushed in

872
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: face looking Persian, short haired cat is.

873
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: The star of everything.

874
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 6: They had him in the CBS Sports net booth and everything.

875
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 6: But get a cat, get a like not just dogs

876
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: being mascots at games.

877
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: It's not just dogs. No, get get a mask cat.

878
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. Shout out. Punch the cat,

879
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: all right, Guys, We've got a whole other hour coming

880
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: at you after this, So thanks for listening. You're listening

881
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: to Fox Football Saturday. I'll talk to you soon. Welcome

882
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: back in to hour two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm

883
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Karme Vitally, your host, and I've got Tracy Sandler here

884
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: with me. We're having a lot of fun. We're time traveling.

885
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Maybe we're talking about what it would take for us

886
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: to run marathons. Uh, talked a lot of football, a

887
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: lot of base fall to Tracy. Was at the World

888
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: Series clinching game at Dodger Stadium last night.

889
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: Oh, it was so fun.

890
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: It's been. It's been. It's been a fun weekend for

891
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: you already.

892
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: It really has. It's been a real treat.

893
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: And Michigan one winning is winning one.

894
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: They won a party win, as Martin called it.

895
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: Things are just things are just coming up, Tracy.

896
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. Yeah, I love that.

897
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: I love that for you too, truly and honestly. Northwestern

898
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: is up over Purdue right now, so I'm like, what

899
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: what's happening?

900
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: Maybe things are coming up Garman too.

901
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know though, because Arizona State is wearing their

902
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: sunburst logo.

903
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't love it. It's on in here. I

904
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: was looking at them earlier, thinking of you.

905
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: I don't love it, but it's fine. It's always go

906
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: Devil's That's where I went to undergrad. Northwestern's where I

907
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 2: went to grad school. That's why I claimed both. But hey,

908
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: I also claimed Fox Sports Radio and for the best

909
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: pregame show every weekend, be sure to tune in to

910
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912
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913
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914
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
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916
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917
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Okay, Tracy, we're already in week seven

918
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: with bananas. This happens every time.

919
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: Every time.

920
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the I think the beginning of

921
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: the season is always like it's always really weird because

922
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: teams don't know what to make of each other. You

923
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: don't know who's good, you don't know who's bad. So

924
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: like I feel like the beginning of the season kind

925
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: of takes a while. Like the first four games, you're like, Okay,

926
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: it seems like it takes a while because you're just

927
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: seeing something new like every week and you just you

928
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of it. And then I

929
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: feel like this is like the part of the season

930
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: that starts to go warp speed, where like all of

931
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: a sudden, we're gonna look up and it's Christmas.

932
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: Yep, that's fair. That is a very very good point.

933
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: And now we know we may not yet know who's good,

934
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 3: but we definitely know who's bad.

935
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we still don't know who's good,

936
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: who's actually good, but we Yeah, you're so right, we

937
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: know who's bad. You know who's not bad though? Who

938
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars.

939
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: No they're not, No, they're not.

940
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: So I want to get to a couple of games

941
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: for Week seven preview, a couple of these games, and

942
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: the first one I want to start with is the

943
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams against the Jacksonville Jaguars in London. So

944
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: that's like another wrinkle in all of this is like

945
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: the overseas games are always just a complete toss up, right,

946
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: Jaguars have a lot of experience going overseas.

947
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: And have every year every year.

948
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Times, yes, yes, Now yeah, they've started like staying over

949
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: there now and I'm like, oh, just move them over to.

950
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: London, London Jaguars.

951
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: But I don't hate it either, and I'd be the

952
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: first one to sign out to go cover them over

953
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: there because I'd love to go to London and I'd

954
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: love to go live in London. It's my favorite city

955
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: outside of Chicago in the world.

956
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: All Right, NFL, make it happen, That's.

957
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But I want to give the Jaguars

958
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: some credit here because across the board, they like Trevor Lawrence.

959
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: You talk about this Jaguars defense, and now you have

960
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: them playing the Rams with obviously Matthew Stafford still Matthew Stafford.

961
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: We started the season kind of wondering with the hyperbaric

962
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: chamber stuff, like who was he? What could he do?

963
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: But but turns out he's fine.

964
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, where can we get one of those?

965
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: I would like one? But he's going to be without

966
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: poquin Akua for this game. And something that Matthew Stafford

967
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: has been excelling at extremely well this season in particular,

968
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: is being under is hit like being productive under pressure.

969
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: So when under pressure the season, he has averaged nine

970
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: point nine are yards per attempt, which is a higher

971
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: mark than not only any quarterback in the league this year,

972
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: but any quarterback in a full season since twenty eighteen.

973
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: So that's he's just killing it against pressure. And then

974
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: he's also throwing downfield quite a bit. That's part of

975
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: his game. That's why you know the Rams can be

976
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: so explosive and productive. But with poquin Akua not being

977
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: in there, how much does that then limit Matthew Stafford's

978
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: productivity and the Rams offense is productivity.

979
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, it obviously is going to make a huge difference.

980
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: They do have DeVante Adams, and I know he's not

981
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: the DeVante Adams so maybe few years ago, but his

982
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams and so I think, well it wasn't No,

983
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he was quite twenty twelve, but that

984
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: a little time traveler will see how the game.

985
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: Goest Adams, Yes, exactly.

986
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: This is a full circle air Rodgers and DeVante Adams,

987
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: and I think that is helpful. It's also helpful is

988
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: that the Jaguars are coming off a game where they

989
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: gave it two hundred Andy five passing yards to Sam Darnold.

990
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: They were very up and down. They had ten penalties

991
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: for seventy six yards. They lead the NFL of takeaways,

992
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: but that I believe stopped last week. So you know,

993
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 3: they need to clean up their play. And I think

994
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: one thing Matthew Stafford can do is if they don't

995
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: clean up their play, he could take advantage of that.

996
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: They're also gonna be without Devin Lloyd. He didn't come

997
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: to London, uh with. He has a calf injury. So

998
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: this is an opportunity, even without Pooka for the Rams

999
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: to be very productive on offense and take advantage of

1000
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: some of the issues that Jags have in their secondary

1001
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: and beyond.

1002
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: It's really interesting because the Jags defense is kind of

1003
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: a contradiction to itself. They've generated pressure at a twenty

1004
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: nine point seven percent rate, which is actually the eighth

1005
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: lowest in the NFL, but they have allowed five point

1006
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: one yards per tenth, which is the seventh lowest, which like,

1007
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: that's that's a good lowest. First one was not a

1008
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: good lowest. This is the good lowest in a thirty

1009
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: eight point one password, which is the second lowest. When

1010
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: doing so so their pressure packages are effective, just not

1011
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: in a not in the tangible ways that you think.

1012
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: Like they are forcing bad passer ratings and they are

1013
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: limiting the amount of yards that quarter opposing quarterbacks are

1014
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: getting against them when they bring pressure, but they're not

1015
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: really finishing that pressure. And that hasn't they have an

1016
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: a Like they're not registering actual pressures as often as

1017
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: they would probably like. So, like, that's what I can't

1018
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: figure out about this defense. Is all right, if you're

1019
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: going to bring pressure, you're affecting the quarterback, but not

1020
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: in the way that I think you're going to And

1021
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: how does that marry up with what the Rams are?

1022
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 2: And and you know, I think the Rams offensive line

1023
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: is playing well again, Matthew Stafford playing well. How much

1024
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: is Pukanakua being out really affect that? That's what this

1025
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: I think game is going to come down to. But

1026
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm still taking the Rams in this game.

1027
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm not Yeah, I'm taking the Rams in this game.

1028
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: And I think the Jags are a team that as

1029
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: we get into late October, November, December, we'll see if

1030
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: they're they're for real, you know, can they can they

1031
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: keep this going? And I think this.

1032
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: Game, I think both of these teams.

1033
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's like, yeah, that's true that.

1034
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: The jury the jury is still out on both of

1035
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: these teams as to how what they're ceiling is for

1036
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: this season.

1037
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: So tomorrow tomorrow win's it being a really big game.

1038
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: It's not a you know, a conference game, but I

1039
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: think it becomes a big game for each of them

1040
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: and how they move forward and the other thing that's

1041
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: coming up and we're still a few weeks away, but

1042
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: is the trade deadline and how teams play in these

1043
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: next few weeks are going to affect moves that get made,

1044
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: and so I think, you know, that starts to become

1045
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: an issue in something to watch out for.

1046
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: M Yeah. I mean if you if you lost all

1047
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: hope by the trade deadline, right, yeah, well then you

1048
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: become sellers. Then all right, I want to I want

1049
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: to also talk about two teams that I'm not sure

1050
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: what to make of them and how good they actually are.

1051
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Uh in the Eagles Vikings. I think this is a

1052
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: sneaky good game this week.

1053
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it's a very sneaky good game.

1054
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: Like you have Eagles sitting on top of the NFC still.

1055
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: But they don't feel like it, but they don't.

1056
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: Feel like bibes are bad. Ye, bibes are bad with

1057
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, but like the vibes were bad last

1058
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: year with the Philadelphi Eagles at this time, and like

1059
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: it was fine and they turned it around and it

1060
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: was all good and whatever. But like, I don't know.

1061
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: Their their offense just isn't isn't clicking the way that

1062
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: it needs to. Their defense is doing a lot of work.

1063
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: But then you've got the Vikings, who Kevin O'Connell did

1064
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: announce that they are starting Carson Wentz over JJ.

1065
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: McCarthy third emergency quarterback is.

1066
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: The emergency quarterbacks still, And so that's the big thing,

1067
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: because I think there was there was this whole discourse

1068
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: that happened this week between these two quarterbacks and what

1069
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: the Vikings were doing, and I I was kind of

1070
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: like why, Because when you're talking about a guy like

1071
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, who you've made a long term investment in already,

1072
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: you don't want to push him back out there, like

1073
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: you would rather wait until he's actually one hundred percent,

1074
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: which is hard to do because pretty much no player

1075
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: even by now is not playing at one hundred percent

1076
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 2: at this point in the season. But like, you want

1077
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: to get JJ McCarthy back to as close to one

1078
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: hundred percent as you can get him before you put

1079
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: him out there, especially when you do have a high

1080
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: end backup. This is why you have a high end,

1081
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: better end backup in Minnesota. This is why you have

1082
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is so that you know that the team

1083
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: is going to be okay with him under center while

1084
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: and you have the luxury then of patients with JJ McCarthy.

1085
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: But under no, I don't think it's under any circumstances.

1086
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Minnesota Vikings are going to

1087
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: like bench JJ McCarthy forever and go with Carson Wentz

1088
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: as their quarterback of the future. I mean that to

1089
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: me just sounds so preposterous.

1090
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: It's completely preposterous. And this idea, I think people have

1091
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: kind of gotten past this, his idea of a soft benching.

1092
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: Like they have, as you said, made an investment in

1093
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. They he needs reps. So far, he's played

1094
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: all of six I guess eight quarters of football, he's

1095
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: played two games in the NFL. He needs reps. So

1096
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: the last thing they want is him not to get them.

1097
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: If he was available, he would be out there because

1098
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: they have to see what they have in him. I

1099
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: could tell you what they have in him, but I

1100
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: know I'm biased, but I still could tell you that

1101
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: he's fabulous. But this idea that there's some kind of

1102
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: conspiracy going on there, I just think is so silly

1103
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: because that's their guy. They made the choice for a reason.

1104
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: They want to see their way.

1105
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: If they didn't keep Sam Darnold around hundred, what makes

1106
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: you think that they would keep Carson Wentz around like

1107
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: for like as as their starter is what I'm talking about, Like, yeah,

1108
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: if they weren't willing to pay them. Not willing to

1109
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: pay Sam Darnald was the biggest vote of confidence to

1110
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: me in JJ McCarthy and them knowing what they had

1111
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: in JJ. And they just need to keep him healthy, yep,

1112
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: and so that he can develop and he can get

1113
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: those reps. He has the best quarterback developer in the

1114
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: league as his head coach. And then you have a

1115
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: really wonderful support system there in Minnesota, just on the

1116
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: coaching staff and then the environment in general. The team

1117
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: is set up to help a quarterback succeed. So of course,

1118
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: a high end veteran backup that has played a lot

1119
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 2: of football is going to be able to come in

1120
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: and operate the offense. That is, like Kevin O'Connell has

1121
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: proved this over and over again, even with guys like

1122
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: when Josh Dobbs joined the team three days later he's

1123
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: starting for them because Jared Reid goes out with a

1124
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: concussion that like he made Josh Dobbs look like he

1125
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: had been the starter all along. Like that is something

1126
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: that Kevin O'Connell can do. And I don't think it

1127
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: has any bearing though on the again long term investment

1128
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: that they have made in JJ McCarthy, and they just

1129
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: I think are being extremely cautious with him because they

1130
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: want to set him up.

1131
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: Do you guys think though, like you mentioned that he's

1132
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 5: their guy right to me, the way I look at

1133
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 5: it is that he's Quessio Dolpha Mensa and Kevin O'Connell's guy,

1134
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: but not necessarily the team's guy, because that is a

1135
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: team that won fourteen games last year and coming into

1136
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 5: the season, the first two games that McCarthy played, there

1137
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 5: was one quarter where he looked like he could maybe

1138
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 5: play in the NFL.

1139
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: Maybe that was the greatest fourth quarter in this area.

1140
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: But other than that, he looked like really one of

1141
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 5: the he was one of the worst quarterbacks that we've seen.

1142
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: That's where the reps come in.

1143
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 3: That's where the reps come in. And I think also,

1144
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: I think that's where the reps come in. In that

1145
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: second game, he was playing through a significant, significant ankle

1146
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: injury as been as we've seen in these last week's

1147
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: he's not playing and he was playing behind not We've

1148
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: talked a lot about offensive lines in the show. Not

1149
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: their best offensive line even close.

1150
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I fine, this is a Vikings team that

1151
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 6: had aspirations last year of like super Bowl with how

1152
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 6: they were playing with Sam Darnold. To go from that

1153
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 6: to we need our quarterback to get reps is really

1154
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 6: just like that's a hando.

1155
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1156
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: If I'm justin Jefferson, like what I'm I'm what in

1157
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: year two now of Mike sension I signed, I'm trying

1158
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 5: to win and you're giving me this guy. I could

1159
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 5: totally see a world where it is a soft benching

1160
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: of JJ McCarthy because that's a locker room full of

1161
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: guys that want to win games. They don't want to

1162
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: develop a quarterback.

1163
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gernard talked this week though about he was on

1164
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: a podcast and he talked about how JJ is their

1165
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: guy and he they see it in him, and he

1166
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: spoke he was, you know, like I said, on a podcast,

1167
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: like not in front of a podium, kind of off

1168
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: the cuff, and the way he talked about him and

1169
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: the way that we've heard Justin Jefferson talk about him

1170
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: and Jordan Adason talk about him. I do think they

1171
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: very much believe in him. He does need reps, but

1172
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: they knew that when they drafted him. He got injured

1173
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: last year's before he ever took a rep, and that

1174
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: was of course problematic. But I really don't think it's

1175
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: a soft benching because they don't. They want him to

1176
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: be their future. He is in their minds, he's there also.

1177
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: I also just don't think that like this team doesn't

1178
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: need to like every team wants to win now, and

1179
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: I acknowledge that completely, but like they are set up

1180
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: in the contracts wise and everything like that where like

1181
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: they they are going to be able to keep this

1182
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: corp together for a couple of years while JJ McCarthy

1183
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: does develop. So I think the injury to him like

1184
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: this season really was like the last possible thing you

1185
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: could have wanted, And I acknowledge that, And like, do

1186
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: you think though, that like Carson Wentz could conceivably lead

1187
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: you to a super Bowl at this stage of his career.

1188
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: I think that there's as much of a chance of

1189
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: that as there is of a healthy JJ McCarthy developing

1190
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: enough and leading this team. I agree.

1191
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I know I'm biased on this. I do

1192
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: know that I have a tremendous bias on this particular subject,

1193
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: and I will defend this man to the death, but

1194
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 3: I do really believe he can lead this team.

1195
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 6: It's just funny to see because I think we could

1196
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 6: have had that same conversation about do you think Sam

1197
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 6: Darnold could have led the Vikings to the playoffs and

1198
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: then everything that happened after that moment once he started

1199
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 6: Game one.

1200
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: Two and that last game against the Lions.

1201
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 6: Sure, but that's the downs side of it, right, Like,

1202
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 6: but still that's the he you talk about a quarterback

1203
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: who only lost games to literally two teams last year,

1204
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 6: the Rams and the Lions. But like, I think it's

1205
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 6: just I wonder in the organization like that they saw

1206
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 6: they made it work before with Sam Darnold that you know,

1207
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 6: let's just see what the unknown is with wenst.

1208
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think what it does do is that

1209
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: they can wait for him to get healthy, like really

1210
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: truly healthy. I think they don't have to rush him

1211
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: back because they have.

1212
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: A bridge there. And I think there's I mean, there's

1213
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: not known with j J. McCarthy, there's not unknown with

1214
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. So it's like pick your poison, and are

1215
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: you going to go with the guy that you've already

1216
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: made a long term investment in, or are you going

1217
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: to see if you can capture lightning in a bottle

1218
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: right now and go try to win with a guy

1219
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: that you still don't know could get you over the

1220
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: hump or give you anything more than what Sam Darnald

1221
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: gave you last year in Carson Wentz, I don't know.

1222
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it is it it's it's it's worth talking about,

1223
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: But I just I don't know. I think like this

1224
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: this organization has voiced nothing but confidence and Jim McCarthy,

1225
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: So you gotta give him that chance. And I hope

1226
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: he gets healthy soon.

1227
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: Me obviously clearly based on my conversation in a segment,

1228
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: I hope he gets healthy soon.

1229
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: I do too well, and I all right, well, we're

1230
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: gonna have to take a break right now. Uh, and

1231
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: we'll be back with more Fox Football Saturday right after this.

1232
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: Well played, very well played.

1233
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so it is. It's just it's twenty it's

1234
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. It's great. You guys are really massive.

1235
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 6: Do you remember what Joe Flacco did after he got

1236
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 6: his contract extension from winning that Super Bowl? He got

1237
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 6: spotted in a Baltimore McDonald's drive through picking up McNuggets.

1238
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: Wait, I was just gonna say, McDonald's. I remember him

1239
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: going to McDonald.

1240
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 6: Well he then and then McDonald's picked him up. I

1241
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 6: think a year later put him in a commercial with

1242
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 6: Joe with with uh, Colin Kaepernick and I guess Larry

1243
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: Bird in the second part of the commercial over with

1244
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 6: their like McDonald's.

1245
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 10: It was their mighty wings.

1246
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 6: They did like chicken wings of McDonald's.

1247
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they did. Yeah.

1248
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 6: And it is some of the worst acting you will

1249
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 6: see athletes do in your life. And that I understand

1250
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 6: what a high bar that is. Athletes are not actors,

1251
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: but this might be some of the worst of it.

1252
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: I mean that I'm pretty good. Okay, Well, now that

1253
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's twenty twelve again. Gosh, I'm in

1254
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: my twenties. I can go out and.

1255
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: Do I can go to a drinks.

1256
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: I could go I could run a marathon and drink

1257
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:30,120
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Speaker 2: All right, So keeping with twenty twelve, I suppose I

1277
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: want to get to another team, which I mean their

1278
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: record in twenty twelve. I think they'd be happy with

1279
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: these days. But they still finished third in their division.

1280
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: That was the Chicago Bears, and they went ten and

1281
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: six back in twenty twelve. I think if they could

1282
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: get to ten wins this year, I think everybody would

1283
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: consider that a success win their first year under Ben Johnson.

1284
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears are now sitting at three and two after

1285
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: a second straight twenty five to twenty four win, the

1286
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: second one over the Washington Commanders Gay Moody and winning

1287
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: field goal Jake Moody game winning field goal like it

1288
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: was raining and the Bears were clearly playing for the

1289
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: field goal and everybody was stressed out and it all

1290
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: worked out and it was one of those kind of

1291
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: culture building wins. I think for the Chicago Bears, where

1292
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: that is not that is not a game they win.

1293
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: If this is last year, two years ago, I don't

1294
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: know if they would have won it in twenty twelve either,

1295
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: But I am as much as I'm encouraged by what

1296
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is doing in Chicago, and I think he

1297
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 2: has done everything right. Everything on paper has looked good.

1298
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Everything honestly, with the Bears at three and two and

1299
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: having the opportunity to go to four and two tomorrow

1300
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: when they play the Saints at home, I like everything

1301
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: that Ben Johnson has done has been at least defensible

1302
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: or it has been like the best possible decision for

1303
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: that time, and the Bears have made the best possible

1304
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: decision they could have since the hiring I think of

1305
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. But with all that said, I grew up

1306
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: in this market. I grew up in mass Bears fan

1307
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: I used to wear if this was twenty twelve, I

1308
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: would have a ring that such Chicago Bears on my

1309
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: finger because I was married to the game like that.

1310
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: I have loved this team my entire life. I have

1311
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: been heartbroken by this team my entire life. I have

1312
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: trust issues because of it, and I am just not

1313
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: willing to say the Bears have totally figured it out

1314
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: yet because I think that there are some things that

1315
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: concern me when you talk about Caleb Williams grasp of

1316
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: the offense, like the way that he is just completing

1317
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: these throws is Timing's not quite there. There's stuff that

1318
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: I still need to see cleaned up. Which is fine.

1319
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: It's only you know, five games into the Ben Johnson era.

1320
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,959
Speaker 2: The defense has been creating turnovers, which is great. Again,

1321
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: I think they still there's a little bit left to

1322
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: be desired as far as the pass rush goes. That

1323
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: needs to get cleaned up. It needs to get healthy

1324
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: on that side of the ball, and it looks like

1325
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: they are for the most part. But I'm not ready

1326
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: to say they've completely turned it around yet. But that's

1327
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: probably just me and my trust issues. So I'm very

1328
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: interested to know what you think, Tracy.

1329
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they've figured it out. I would say

1330
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: they're figuring it out, and I think that is a

1331
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: much They're much farther along than they were a year

1332
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: ago or two years ago because they think it's going

1333
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: to take a little time to figure it out. First

1334
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 3: year under Bed Johnson, Caleb william Caleb Williams grasping the offense,

1335
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: as you said, but they're figuring it out and the

1336
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: winning the last two games while figuring it out, I

1337
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: think votes very well for their future. If they got

1338
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: to ten wins this season, yes, everybody would consider that

1339
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: a tremendous success. They got to nine wins this season,

1340
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: but I think if you see improvement, which is what

1341
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: you're seeing from week one to week six, and their

1342
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: ability to come up in these games that they for

1343
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: sure would have lost in the last several years, that's

1344
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: a very good start. They're not there yet, but there's

1345
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: hope that they're going to get there.

1346
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm totally on board with that. And even

1347
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: going into the season, I said, because of the decisions

1348
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: that the Bear as a franchise had been making up

1349
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: until this point, and because everything they had done had

1350
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: been at the very least defensible, if not just the

1351
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: outright best decision they could have made, I was more

1352
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: optimistic going into the season than I have been in

1353
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: a very long time. But that doesn't mean that I

1354
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: thought they were playoff locks, or that they're going to

1355
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: contend for the division right away or what have you.

1356
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: I just think that they're going in the right direction,

1357
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: provided you know, Kayleb Williams can show up for a

1358
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: meeting with ESPN broadcasters.

1359
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was weird.

1360
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: It was very weird. It's a very weird thing for

1361
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: him not to meet with the broadcasters multiple times in

1362
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: a season. It's just it doesn't happen. Starting quarterback meets

1363
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: with the broadcasters when you're on primetime football and any

1364
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: other time really, but especially when you're on primetime, it

1365
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Hopefully, you know, Ben Johnson, the culture he's

1366
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: instilling keeps them all in the straight and narrow. And

1367
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: now we're going to go to Martin. Weis're another update break.

1368
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 10: Right now.

1369
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 9: Ohio State with a seventeenth to nothing lead over Wisconsin.

1370
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 9: Ohio State undefeated, number one team in the nation. Wisconsin

1371
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 9: winless in Big Ten play fifteen I'm sorry, thirteen minutes

1372
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 9: left into the third quarter thus far. Number three ring

1373
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 9: Indiana with a twenty one to ten lead over Michigan State.

1374
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 10: Indiana, also undefeated. That's in a rain delay.

1375
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 9: Weather has been a factor throughout the throughout the country

1376
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 9: today Texas A and m in Arkansas NA downpour earlier today.

1377
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 10: That game is going to start in about a couple

1378
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 10: of minutes from now.

1379
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 9: At the half, Ole miss with a twenty one to

1380
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 9: twenty lead over Georgia. That's a top ten matchup in

1381
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 9: the SEC. All miss number five undefeated Georgia with one

1382
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 9: lost the ninth or eight team with ninety seconds left

1383
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 9: in the first half of Arizona State.

1384
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 10: Let's go karm in with the lead over Texas Tech.

1385
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 9: Now it's nine to seven Texas Tech seven and three

1386
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 9: team undefeated. They do have the ball, but again ninety

1387
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 9: seconds left in the first half. You can catch that

1388
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 9: one on Fox at the half. UAB with a a

1389
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 9: touchdown as that first half expired to take the lead

1390
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 9: seventeen to fourteen over number twenty two Memphis Memphis, also undefeated.

1391
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 9: UAB has an interim head coach that Texas A and

1392
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 9: M in Arkansas game. Did just start Arkansas with the

1393
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 9: ball scoreless as again, like I said, just started Vanderbilt

1394
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 9: with a thirty one to twenty four win over LSU.

1395
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 9: LSU losing to Vanderbilt their seventeenth to rank team in

1396
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 9: the nation. LSU falls to five and two, two and

1397
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 9: two in conference play. Seventh under Georgia Tech undefeated seven

1398
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 9: and oh four and oh and ACC play that beat

1399
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 9: Duke twenty seven to eighteen and fourteenth rank Oklahoma with

1400
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 9: a twenty six to two seven win over South Carolina.

1401
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 10: Back to you, Blay, thank.

1402
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: You Martin, And now we're going to bring in another

1403
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: college football not really a big ten guy because Notre

1404
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: Dame just refuses to join a conference, but a big

1405
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: ten guy at heart. I think I can I feel

1406
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: okay saying that it's Mike Golick, junior of Golick and

1407
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: Golic Fame. How are you?

1408
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 12: I'm doing well?

1409
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 11: The ambient found you here in the background is me

1410
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 11: changing in a bathroom stall in the Orlando Airport. So

1411
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 11: this is show business, guys, and I appreciate you having me.

1412
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: That is show business. Amazing. Well, I likes a show girl, man,

1413
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: it's the life of a show girl. If the showgirl

1414
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: just got done calling the UCF Knights versus the West

1415
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: Virginia Mountaineers forty five to thirteen, that game ended. How

1416
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: did you enjoy the land of chains and not the

1417
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: ones you put around your neck? Mike?

1418
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 11: Yes, not an icy area, but an incredibly entertaining one.

1419
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 11: It was great and I think it was interesting today.

1420
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 11: So there were thirty new FBS coaches this year in

1421
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 11: college football. Only two of them are returning home to

1422
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 11: jobs they already have and that was Scott Ross and

1423
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 11: Rich Rodriguez. Different challenges for both. But Scott Brost group

1424
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 11: had been close in recent weeks, close games against Kansas Cincinnati,

1425
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 11: two teams that I think are in the top half

1426
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 11: of the Big twelve. And today Taevi and Jackson, my quarterback,

1427
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 11: just put it all together and so they keep making

1428
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 11: big plays like that. Watch out the back half of

1429
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 11: this Big twelve season. You see up could absolutely sneak

1430
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 11: up and up in someone's season.

1431
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: Mike, we've been talking a lot about we're at that

1432
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: point where we're going to find out who's good in

1433
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: the NFL and who's not so good in the NFL.

1434
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: What team has stood out to you as perhaps a

1435
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: surprise that maybe one of the top teams.

1436
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 11: Well, I think you got to start with Seattle, right

1437
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 11: the Seahawks. Van Darnold coming over Payday that most people

1438
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 11: looked at differently after the last two games of the

1439
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 11: season for the Minnesota Vikings, and now all of a sudden,

1440
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 11: the combination of him, Clint Kubiak, a passing attack where Jackson,

1441
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 11: Smith and Jig quickly cemented himself as one of the

1442
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 11: top wide receivers in football, and this team could go

1443
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 11: along with Mike McDonald. Defense looks like a complete enough

1444
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 11: group in an NFC West that is wide open, ravaged

1445
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 11: by injury in some case, a great opportunity for them,

1446
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 11: and what a continued redemption story for Sam Darnald and

1447
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 11: the job that he's done this year.

1448
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: I am torn between do we just always do this

1449
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: every year? Or have there really been more injuries this

1450
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: year or at least more significant injuries that have altered

1451
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: our expectations of teams ie stuff that happened obviously with

1452
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: the Bengals, with the Ravens, I mean, like the entire

1453
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: AFC North, I suppose, but I feel like there have

1454
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: been team altering injuries more so than they have been before.

1455
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: But maybe it's just it's me, it's revision's history. I

1456
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: don't know, what do you feel like, Mike.

1457
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 11: It certainly feels like an anecdotally karm and like I

1458
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 11: don't know, like maybe we'll have a study comeout that

1459
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 11: shows us that it's on far for the course, And

1460
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 11: like you said, when it's big time quarterback names, when

1461
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 11: it's the forty nine ers year after year going through this,

1462
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 11: maybe it starts to feel like more than it is.

1463
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 12: But I don't know.

1464
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 11: It just to me seems like and I don't.

1465
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 12: Know what the culprit is.

1466
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 11: Right, people are going to point the changes in preseason

1467
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 11: the offseason, but it's a violent game played by some

1468
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 11: of the biggest, fastest, strongest on planet Earth, and so

1469
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 11: this might just be what happens. And it feels ominous

1470
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 11: looking ahead to what we know is coming up as

1471
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 11: the crux of the next negotiation, which is a potential

1472
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 11: eighteen game regular season, where this is only going to

1473
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 11: be heightened at.

1474
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: Eighteen game regular season. I mean, what do you think

1475
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: about that? Do you feel like it's just bananas or

1476
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: do you think it's inevitable.

1477
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 11: It feels inevitable, It feels greedy, and at a time

1478
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 11: where we've got more football on TV on more nights

1479
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 11: and more countries than ever before, you wonder if there

1480
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 11: ever is a saturation point the only solace in the NFL.

1481
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 11: And it's different in the sport I cover in college

1482
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 11: with football, where we keep adding playoff games, we keep

1483
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 11: adding all this stuff to the pie for players who

1484
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 11: don't have any ability to negotiate for themselves. Yes, the

1485
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 11: money's coming in differently, But in the NFL, hey if

1486
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 11: the owners want to add another game that's more or

1487
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 11: less fifty percent of the earnings. That are also going

1488
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 11: to increase the money going to players now that's paid out,

1489
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 11: what it means to roster expansion and stuff will add in.

1490
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 11: But I think for that reason, it seems ever and

1491
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 11: so the question always is is like, right, if you're

1492
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 11: the players, what are you going to get in return

1493
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 11: that is going to make the added physical toll worthwhile

1494
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 11: for you guys.

1495
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: I think another turn that we're seeing a whole lot

1496
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL is basically that. And Tracy kind of

1497
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: started it off earlier saying like, who do we even know?

1498
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: Who's good? That parody? Seems like it's at an all

1499
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: time high in the NFL. What factors do you think

1500
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: are contributing to that? And do you also feel that

1501
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: you know it really isn't any given Sunday mentality it is.

1502
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 11: The injuries are certainly a part of it, But I

1503
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 11: think this is one that does feel like it has

1504
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 11: a little more of a culprit. Like TDD Bowles I

1505
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 11: heard mentioned this plenty of coaches that pointed out, hey,

1506
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 11: you do have less time on the field than ever

1507
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 11: before with these guys. You do have a less of

1508
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 11: a preseason runway, and so the first quarter of the

1509
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 11: season sort of becomes an area that is full of

1510
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 11: upsets and upset potential because you guys haven't.

1511
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 12: Played a lot of football.

1512
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 11: It's still a complicated enough game, that's a learned enough

1513
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 11: skill set to where the only way and you hear

1514
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 11: it all the time. It's cliche, but it's true. The

1515
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 11: only way to get better at this sport is to

1516
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 11: do it continually. And back in the day, you know,

1517
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 11: I hear this from my dad all time, but hey,

1518
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 11: we used to have training camps. Oh yeah, no, it's

1519
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 11: you know, hey, it's just filled it every once in

1520
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 11: a while. But in some cases, as I don't like

1521
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 11: to admit very often, he is right and you're going

1522
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 11: to pay penalty for that somewhere. And we see that

1523
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 11: through the first four or five games of the season

1524
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 11: and feels like every year.

1525
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: Now, do you think that's part of the injuries that

1526
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: they're just not there's not enough time to get these

1527
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 3: guys ready. And that may be a really naive, silly

1528
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: thing to say, but you kind of have to wonder.

1529
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 11: Listen, I think you've got to look at everything at

1530
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 11: this point and some of these changes are far enough

1531
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 11: into where we should have larger data points about what's

1532
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 11: going on and how it might impact these guys and

1533
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 11: what adjustments need to be made. Like again, with a

1534
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 11: lot of this stuff, I point back to the twenty

1535
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 11: eleven CBA when so much of the practice time and

1536
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 11: offseason rules change. Where all right, that's over a decade

1537
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 11: of data. Now we should be able to start to

1538
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 11: draw some bigger conclusions and look into this so that

1539
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 11: we can make sure we're continuing to make this the

1540
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 11: safest possible game it can be for a collision sport

1541
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 11: that's never going to be fully safe, and well, I

1542
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 11: don't know where it goes from here, but I do

1543
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 11: know that this spot has always been a war of attrition,

1544
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 11: and it's been one where the teams that are left

1545
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 11: standing at the end are often the ones that just

1546
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 11: get luckier, managed that the best they possibly can, or

1547
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 11: have the right depths built all through the ausseas, and

1548
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 11: it's you know, there's certain parts of it their skill

1549
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 11: and there's always going to be certain parts that are

1550
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 11: luck I.

1551
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: Also think that so much of it is maybe even coaching,

1552
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: because I think back to the game against the Night

1553
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: the Diners and the Bucks. You know you mentioned Todd

1554
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: Bowles and how he's talked about you get less time

1555
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: on the field with these guys. But this last week

1556
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: where you saw the Bucks and the Niners go head

1557
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 2: to head with like half of their original starters on

1558
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: the field for each of them, and it just becomes

1559
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: this chess match. I feel like between which coach can

1560
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: adapt more? And so do you think coaching has become

1561
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: harder as all of these as parody has risen as

1562
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: all of these injuries, like you have to be able

1563
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: to adjust more than ever before.

1564
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 11: I certainly think it highlights and I mean the example

1565
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 11: that come to mind most like, I don't want to

1566
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 11: hear anyone say a sour word about Kyle Shanahan. Again,

1567
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 11: what he does every year is remarkable, with whoever's at

1568
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 11: quarterback gets to reunite with Max Jones's long lost drugs

1569
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 11: love for many drafts to go. And then I think

1570
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 11: the other one I think about too is Dan Campbell. Listen,

1571
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 11: the roster may not have turned over, but he lost

1572
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 11: a bunch of coordinators and to be able to come

1573
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 11: in and have these new coaches who have been a

1574
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 11: part of your staff already, but to bring them along

1575
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 11: in such a way that has them ready so that

1576
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 11: when that change happens and when that opportunity is there,

1577
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 11: we do next man up for players all the time.

1578
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 11: That's true for coaching too, and in some places Philadelphia

1579
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 11: we see sometimes coaches brought up through that pipeline that

1580
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 11: don't seem ready for that moment, And in Detroit we've

1581
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 11: certainly seen the opposite.

1582
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: I have a question that is not football related, but

1583
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 3: I think is very very important, and the listeners want

1584
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 3: to know because I've not spoken to you since the

1585
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: Life of a show Girl came.

1586
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: Out I thought was coming.

1587
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 3: I mean, can't we can't have you on and not

1588
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: discuss it. What I'm going to ask you, what's your

1589
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: favorite song on the album? And why is it potentially

1590
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 3: open eighte?

1591
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1592
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 11: See that one to me like falk to the number

1593
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 11: one down like a terminator because at the first listen

1594
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 11: for me, it was actually romantic. It's sassy, it's biting,

1595
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 11: it's got an edge, like.

1596
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 12: What a great song that was.

1597
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 11: But maybe it's because there's a video which helps, or

1598
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 11: maybe because the TikTok's taken off with it.

1599
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 12: But oh, it's just so much fun. If this album

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 12: would come out in June, that would have been the

1601
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 12: song in.

1602
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 11: The summer on questioned. So to me, that holds the

1603
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 11: number one spot right now, and I'm excited to have

1604
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 11: three new number ones before we get out of the

1605
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 11: month of October.

1606
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, you're living the life of a show girl

1607
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: right now. We appreciate you because a.

1608
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 3: Show go it's a show Goojo, You're welcome.

1609
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 12: Anyone else just get chilled.

1610
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh, you are welcome. I'll give you that for free, trademarket.

1611
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: We love when a plan comes together. But thank you

1612
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: so much for changing the Orlando Airport bathroom and joining

1613
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: us to talks some football to talks and Taylor Swift,

1614
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Mike safe travels. Thank you again for your time.

1615
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 12: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

1616
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: All right, We've got another segment coming up for you.

1617
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: Right on the other side of this. You're listening to

1618
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,959
Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. Welcome back in to Fox Football Saturday.

1619
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 2: I'm Carmen Vitally. I have Tracy Sandler with me. Hello,

1620
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: it's been a fun afternoon.

1621
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 3: Really has had a lot.

1622
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Of discussion, like, honestly, a lot of kind of philosophical

1623
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 2: discussion about offensive line play about the state of football

1624
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: right now, about the life of a show girl. As

1625
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: our last guest, Michael Junior, was changing in the bathroom

1626
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: of the Orlando Airport. After calling UCF West Virginia found

1627
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: time to talk to us. Wonderful, wonderful man and we

1628
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: even talked to some baseball and during the MLB post season,

1629
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: Strauss made history as the first brand ever on the

1630
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: helmets work where built perform, smart pocket design, real comfort

1631
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: and durability from Gritz to Glory Europe. Today at Strauss

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Speaker 2: dot com, that's str A U s S dot com.

1633
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: And we are not out of the of the Championship

1634
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: Series yet because it's the Mariners and the Blue Jays.

1635
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: Mariners are up three to two.

1636
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 3: They had exciting Game two. It kind of got overshadowed

1637
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 3: by show. Hey, but grand Slam home run to win.

1638
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

1639
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: I was gonna say grand Slam home run. I think

1640
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: the series is going to seven. I do too, It's

1641
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: just it's been it's got it. You know, one of

1642
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 2: them has to be drama. You know, Dodgers swept. That

1643
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: means I feel like the ALCS has to go to

1644
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: seven games and then we will wait to find out

1645
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: who will face the Dodgers in the World Series. But

1646
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: I already know Tracy's pick for the World Series jamp correct.

1647
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: Not a lot of suspense there.

1648
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: And again even as someone who has no allegiances to

1649
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,879
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, although I did intern for them in twenty thirteen,

1650
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: so yes, I need to I need to make that

1651
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: known slash, like you know, full disclosure, to be completely transparent.

1652
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: I did intern for the Dodgers in twenty thirteen. They

1653
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: all also went to the NLCS that year. That was

1654
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: a fun little run.

1655
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh what a fun time to be there.

1656
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: Didn't end up making it to the World Series, but still, yeah,

1657
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: it was. It was fun. We Hungjin Ru so we

1658
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 2: had like this incredible Korean contingent that was that followed him,

1659
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: especially into that postseason. It was incredible. It was such

1660
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: a good that's awesome. It was such a good work experience.

1661
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 2: I met Christianna Ronaldo was part of that intern Oh wow,

1662
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: nice sick. I got to like video him and Yasio

1663
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,919
Speaker 2: Pueeg like dribbling a baseball back and forth. It was crazy.

1664
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: I met so many people as part of that internship.

1665
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: It was wild good times, but other good times. I

1666
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: want to get to our last and final segment. Lol

1667
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: Moment of the week, because I think we need to

1668
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 2: laugh at least once a day, but hopefully more than that.

1669
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: But lol moment of the week. Something that made us

1670
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: laugh on social media this week. I'm going to start.

1671
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna go all the way back to Sunday.

1672
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 3: Oh well say that, Like you said, I've got to

1673
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: go back to two thousand and five, come back.

1674
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: To twenty twelve if you've missed it. We time traveled

1675
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: earlier in this show too. I we talked a lot

1676
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: about the Bucks this this week, this episode and or

1677
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: this afternoon, and I want to talk a little bit more.

1678
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: Just you mentioned the Baker scramble throw, evading pressure, just

1679
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: getting out getting the first down. This that the other

1680
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 2: sheer force of will with you know, down his like

1681
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: first four or five receivers. Baker gets it done for

1682
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers who end up winning that game, or the

1683
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. And after as the King was going on,

1684
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, of all people, who is such a fun

1685
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: follow by the way on social media, just goes Baker,

1686
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: you effen hoopin. And if there's not I don't think

1687
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: there's a better description of what Baker Mayfield is doing

1688
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 2: in the league right now than hoopin.

1689
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: I would agree with that that. I would agree with that.

1690
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 3: That's a that's perfect. I love Hoopin. Trete Williams said

1691
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: that zet to Mac Jones is week two start. He said,

1692
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: just go out there and hoop and I really love

1693
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: the cross.

1694
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: The cross, Yeah, like the crossover. That's the the word

1695
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: I was looking for.

1696
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: I love it. I absolutely love it. Well, mine actually

1697
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: is Mac Jones related. Who by the way, if you

1698
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 3: don't know this guy's Mac Jones is really really funny,

1699
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: which was a surprise to me when he first got

1700
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 3: to the Ford Anders and Keys. Also very fashionable, apparently

1701
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: very fashionable.

1702
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: The suit, very fashion forward in his like pregame fits.

1703
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: He really has the suit. Game is on point, and

1704
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,919
Speaker 3: he's really quite hilarious. And earlier this week, my colleague

1705
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: Eric Branch, who was amazing covers the Fordyins, said to Mac,

1706
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, the last couple of games, by the end

1707
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: of the game, you really haven't been moving very well,

1708
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 3: to which Max said, thank you, and everybody laughed at that,

1709
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 3: and then Mac asked him if he wanted to race,

1710
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: and it just was it was funny and Mac is funny,

1711
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: and I think it's just something that's really surprising because

1712
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't think we got to see that side of

1713
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: him in New England or Jacksonville. But it definitely made

1714
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: me laugh because I like when people can be self

1715
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: deprecating and have a little fun with the.

1716
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: No one's allowed to be funny in New England, especially

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01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: when Mac Jhones' is there. No. I love that. I

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01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 2: love it when players get to see their personality. What

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01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: I would love even more is if he took him

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01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: up on the race and they they ended up racing,

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01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: because it's like try honestly, I think, I mean, I

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01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: don't want I don't want anybody to get injured, which

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: would probably happen if you had any sort of media.

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01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I do. I think it would be

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: So I really do want that to happen in some

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: way shape or form, like on a like a larger

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01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: like grand scale, because I think it would just go

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: a long way to people understanding just like even when

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01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: these guys don't look athletic, like when they take off

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: and run, like the way that Patrick Mahomes looks like

1731
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: a baby draft when he runs or whatever, Like these

1732
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: guys are still incredibly athletic, and they are so much

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01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: more athletic than you or I could ever be, and

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: like they don't get the credit for it sometimes. And

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: I think that things like a race, even if it

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: is like you, like, the media picks the one person

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01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: that like they think is in the best shape to

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01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 2: like race an NFL player that's just like a run

1739
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 2: of the middle NFL player. I think that would go

1740
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: a long way in showing people just how much like

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: how freaks how freakish these guys are.

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01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 3: I once went through the fort Niners conditioning program, and

1743
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: let me tell you, it's not for the faint of heart.

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: I've worked out with offensive lineman. It's hard. It's real hard.

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01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for joining us. We had

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01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: so much fun today. But I hope you will joined

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Speaker 2: us next week. For Tracy, I'm Carmen. Have a great afternoon.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 11: Yes,