1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Shoe podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,577 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app 3 00:00:17,817 --> 00:00:23,737 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. As Nancy Pelosi departed 4 00:00:23,777 --> 00:00:26,257 Speaker 1: the US to begin her tour of Asia, the Chinese 5 00:00:26,297 --> 00:00:30,377 Speaker 1: government reiterated their threat of quote countermeasures and consequences should 6 00:00:30,377 --> 00:00:33,937 Speaker 1: the House Speaker visit by Wan. Pelosi's in Singapore today 7 00:00:33,977 --> 00:00:36,537 Speaker 1: and is set to visit Malaysia, South Korea, and Japan, 8 00:00:37,177 --> 00:00:41,137 Speaker 1: with new reports suggesting she will stop by Taiwan tomorrow, 9 00:00:41,457 --> 00:00:45,337 Speaker 1: though I will communist China respond to this. We'll discuss 10 00:00:45,417 --> 00:00:53,817 Speaker 1: and tonight's hold the lot. Welcome to hold the line. 11 00:00:53,817 --> 00:00:57,457 Speaker 1: I'm buck Sexton. Will Pelosi go to Taiwan? Big question 12 00:00:57,577 --> 00:01:01,057 Speaker 1: of the day? She is the Speaker of the House. Now, 13 00:01:01,097 --> 00:01:05,617 Speaker 1: she's a deeply venal, ignorant, and unethical person, but she 14 00:01:05,737 --> 00:01:08,337 Speaker 1: is still the Speaker of the House, a representative of 15 00:01:08,417 --> 00:01:12,537 Speaker 1: the United States government, and therefore whether or not she 16 00:01:13,297 --> 00:01:17,977 Speaker 1: goes to Taiwan reflects on US foreign policy and therefore 17 00:01:18,137 --> 00:01:22,737 Speaker 1: on the people of our country. Now we've been put 18 00:01:22,817 --> 00:01:27,417 Speaker 1: in quite a situation here because of Pelosi does go well, 19 00:01:27,977 --> 00:01:32,817 Speaker 1: China could take extreme measures. Chinese foreign Ministry. A representative 20 00:01:32,857 --> 00:01:36,457 Speaker 1: Warren today that if Pelosi Enterst. Taiwan, quote, Beijing's military 21 00:01:36,897 --> 00:01:40,017 Speaker 1: will not sit idly by if Pelosi enterst. Taiwan. Due 22 00:01:40,057 --> 00:01:42,057 Speaker 1: to her status as a number three official of the 23 00:01:42,137 --> 00:01:47,857 Speaker 1: US government, a Taiwan visit would lead to egregious political impact. Okay, 24 00:01:47,977 --> 00:01:52,337 Speaker 1: political impact would be something that we could certainly handle 25 00:01:53,497 --> 00:01:56,377 Speaker 1: and is not enough I would think to deter a 26 00:01:56,457 --> 00:01:59,737 Speaker 1: Pelosi visit because the other option here of her not 27 00:01:59,897 --> 00:02:02,977 Speaker 1: going would be for the number three in line for 28 00:02:03,017 --> 00:02:07,977 Speaker 1: the US presidency government official to allow the Communist Party 29 00:02:07,977 --> 00:02:12,417 Speaker 1: of China to make a determination about where outside of 30 00:02:12,657 --> 00:02:17,177 Speaker 1: Chinese territory a US official can go. All that a 31 00:02:17,297 --> 00:02:20,897 Speaker 1: big problem, and this is why the US is not 32 00:02:21,057 --> 00:02:24,137 Speaker 1: standing ouidly by either. A US aircraft carrier and its 33 00:02:24,177 --> 00:02:27,617 Speaker 1: strike group, including the USS Ronald Reagan, have returned to 34 00:02:27,657 --> 00:02:30,217 Speaker 1: the South China Sea after a port call in Singapore, 35 00:02:30,737 --> 00:02:33,497 Speaker 1: deploying in the disputed region as tensions with China rise 36 00:02:33,657 --> 00:02:37,817 Speaker 1: over a possible visit to Taiwan by Congressional leader Nancy Pelosi. 37 00:02:37,937 --> 00:02:41,297 Speaker 1: So let's just take stock of this moment in time, 38 00:02:41,297 --> 00:02:44,137 Speaker 1: shall we? We have a Speaker of the House now 39 00:02:44,457 --> 00:02:46,977 Speaker 1: has a catch twenty two. If she doesn't go, it 40 00:02:47,017 --> 00:02:48,777 Speaker 1: looks like she's bending the need of China. If she 41 00:02:48,857 --> 00:02:53,497 Speaker 1: does go, she's provoking some kind of Chinese response. How 42 00:02:53,537 --> 00:02:59,137 Speaker 1: severe would it be? Obviously, any military act against the 43 00:02:59,177 --> 00:03:02,937 Speaker 1: plane or against the convoy that Nancy Pelosi would be 44 00:03:02,977 --> 00:03:05,177 Speaker 1: in is an active war as clear and active war 45 00:03:05,297 --> 00:03:08,137 Speaker 1: as one that could exist. And so what would the 46 00:03:08,177 --> 00:03:10,817 Speaker 1: US response be? Obviously would be military, and it could 47 00:03:10,817 --> 00:03:15,217 Speaker 1: provoke a broader conflict between the two largest economies and 48 00:03:15,257 --> 00:03:18,857 Speaker 1: the two most powerful countries in the world. So those 49 00:03:18,897 --> 00:03:22,257 Speaker 1: are the stakes right now. But it's also worth asking 50 00:03:22,297 --> 00:03:26,457 Speaker 1: what exactly is the US foreign policy with regard to Taiwan. 51 00:03:26,617 --> 00:03:31,457 Speaker 1: Has anyone really decided what is the US position? Because today, 52 00:03:31,497 --> 00:03:35,937 Speaker 1: for example, the Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said, you can 53 00:03:35,977 --> 00:03:39,017 Speaker 1: hear it yourself right here, the US does not support 54 00:03:39,097 --> 00:03:44,817 Speaker 1: an independent Taiwan. Way figure can speak for herself, and 55 00:03:46,137 --> 00:03:49,817 Speaker 1: whatever she wants to say on this trip is really 56 00:03:49,857 --> 00:03:53,217 Speaker 1: her prerogative. That's why it was so important for me 57 00:03:53,257 --> 00:03:56,337 Speaker 1: in my opening comments Kelly, to make clear what this 58 00:03:56,417 --> 00:03:59,577 Speaker 1: administration's policy is with respect to the One China principle, 59 00:04:00,257 --> 00:04:04,617 Speaker 1: one China policy, as well as as not wanting to 60 00:04:04,617 --> 00:04:11,297 Speaker 1: see cross street tensions resolved by any than peaceful means, 61 00:04:11,497 --> 00:04:14,737 Speaker 1: and the fact that we don't support Taiwan independence, it 62 00:04:14,817 --> 00:04:16,577 Speaker 1: was important for me to lay that down right at 63 00:04:16,577 --> 00:04:20,737 Speaker 1: the outset. That's our policy, that's this administration's approach. I 64 00:04:20,817 --> 00:04:24,137 Speaker 1: can't speak for what speaker Pools seem may do or 65 00:04:24,977 --> 00:04:28,097 Speaker 1: does it sound like he who has a clear policy 66 00:04:28,097 --> 00:04:30,577 Speaker 1: to articulate there for everybody. A lot of kind of 67 00:04:30,617 --> 00:04:33,297 Speaker 1: mumbling and going back and Fourwell, you know, we don't 68 00:04:33,417 --> 00:04:36,217 Speaker 1: we support a one China policy, but we don't support 69 00:04:36,217 --> 00:04:40,257 Speaker 1: Thaiwan independence. Hold on, it's like Taiwan's independent right now. 70 00:04:40,657 --> 00:04:44,017 Speaker 1: Taiwan has a democratically elected government. We do a lot 71 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:46,817 Speaker 1: of business with Taiwan. They are incredibly important when it 72 00:04:46,817 --> 00:04:50,217 Speaker 1: comes to semiconductors for the global market, including for the US. 73 00:04:50,897 --> 00:04:52,817 Speaker 1: We sell them a lot of arms and munition so 74 00:04:52,857 --> 00:04:55,817 Speaker 1: they can defend themselves against China, the only reason they 75 00:04:55,817 --> 00:04:58,577 Speaker 1: have to buy the kind of weaponry they do. So 76 00:04:58,697 --> 00:05:01,777 Speaker 1: it is a day facto independent state. But we tell 77 00:05:01,817 --> 00:05:04,657 Speaker 1: the Chinese we agree with their one China policy. According 78 00:05:04,697 --> 00:05:08,097 Speaker 1: to Kirby there and we don't support an independent Taiwan, 79 00:05:08,097 --> 00:05:12,777 Speaker 1: even though right now it is independent. But what exactly 80 00:05:12,857 --> 00:05:15,857 Speaker 1: is going on here? And now we also should be 81 00:05:15,897 --> 00:05:20,937 Speaker 1: forced to just stare down this notion of strategic ambiguity. 82 00:05:21,497 --> 00:05:25,457 Speaker 1: Strategic ambiguity is bullcrap, friends, Okay, this is nonsense. This 83 00:05:25,537 --> 00:05:29,777 Speaker 1: goes along with the Obama administrations leading from behind or 84 00:05:29,897 --> 00:05:35,257 Speaker 1: strategic patients with regard to happenings in the Pacific, concluding 85 00:05:35,297 --> 00:05:38,497 Speaker 1: with China North Korea. Those are fancy ways of saying 86 00:05:38,497 --> 00:05:39,777 Speaker 1: we don't really know what we're going to do, and 87 00:05:39,817 --> 00:05:41,337 Speaker 1: we're probably not going to do anything, and we're not 88 00:05:41,377 --> 00:05:44,417 Speaker 1: even sure what we want now in foreign policy, those 89 00:05:44,417 --> 00:05:47,217 Speaker 1: are all very bad places to be. You gotta know 90 00:05:47,257 --> 00:05:49,457 Speaker 1: what you want, you got on, what your ultimate goal is, 91 00:05:49,617 --> 00:05:51,897 Speaker 1: how you hope to get there, what costs you're willing 92 00:05:51,897 --> 00:05:55,097 Speaker 1: to bear along the way. That's how it's supposed to work. 93 00:05:55,457 --> 00:05:57,617 Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a situation right now where, if 94 00:05:57,657 --> 00:06:00,897 Speaker 1: you believe some of those who are the most concerned 95 00:06:00,937 --> 00:06:04,057 Speaker 1: about this, we could be risking an act of war 96 00:06:04,257 --> 00:06:07,817 Speaker 1: and even full scale war itself with China over this 97 00:06:07,897 --> 00:06:10,977 Speaker 1: visit to Taiwan. Now, that may seem a bit extreme, 98 00:06:11,017 --> 00:06:13,297 Speaker 1: but some people certainly think that's possible. The Chinese government 99 00:06:13,337 --> 00:06:18,137 Speaker 1: is saying it's possible. So what does that mean for US? 100 00:06:18,937 --> 00:06:23,417 Speaker 1: Would the US military intervene in a Chinese attempt to 101 00:06:23,537 --> 00:06:27,097 Speaker 1: take Taiwan? And that's really what is behind all of this, right, 102 00:06:27,897 --> 00:06:31,097 Speaker 1: is the US going to back Taiwan up when China 103 00:06:31,177 --> 00:06:33,937 Speaker 1: decides that they're going to seize the island because they 104 00:06:33,937 --> 00:06:36,497 Speaker 1: have been saying for decades that that's what they will do, 105 00:06:37,137 --> 00:06:40,697 Speaker 1: and they seem to be moving in that direction. Does 106 00:06:40,697 --> 00:06:46,537 Speaker 1: the United States government plan to defend Taiwan militarily? They 107 00:06:46,577 --> 00:06:49,137 Speaker 1: won't answer the question. Think about that. I mean, there 108 00:06:49,137 --> 00:06:51,177 Speaker 1: are so many places around the world where the answer 109 00:06:51,177 --> 00:06:53,577 Speaker 1: would be, well, we hope that this country aid doesn't 110 00:06:53,577 --> 00:06:55,137 Speaker 1: involve country be, but we're not about to go to 111 00:06:55,177 --> 00:06:59,097 Speaker 1: war if they do. Strategic ambiguity is, well, maybe we will, 112 00:06:59,217 --> 00:07:01,297 Speaker 1: maybe we won't, We'll see how we feel at the time. 113 00:07:02,297 --> 00:07:05,457 Speaker 1: That's quite a policy. The basis of foreign policy is, 114 00:07:05,617 --> 00:07:07,857 Speaker 1: or the baseline understanding is who are your friends? Who 115 00:07:07,857 --> 00:07:10,977 Speaker 1: are your enemies? Do they know the difference? And does 116 00:07:10,977 --> 00:07:15,617 Speaker 1: it matter that there's a difference. Do we really know 117 00:07:15,737 --> 00:07:18,417 Speaker 1: what we're doing right now with regard to China and Taiwan? 118 00:07:18,777 --> 00:07:20,577 Speaker 1: Is US policy clear? I'd bring you back to that 119 00:07:20,657 --> 00:07:23,377 Speaker 1: Kirby statement, we don't want an independent Taiwan, we want 120 00:07:23,377 --> 00:07:26,497 Speaker 1: a one China. We support the one China policy. So 121 00:07:26,577 --> 00:07:30,777 Speaker 1: then Pelosi shouldn't go because because China says we shouldn't 122 00:07:30,777 --> 00:07:33,257 Speaker 1: do that. The White House, apparently, by the ways, working 123 00:07:33,257 --> 00:07:37,217 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to convince Pelosi not to visit. Behind 124 00:07:37,217 --> 00:07:39,777 Speaker 1: the scenes of Biden administration officials have been working to 125 00:07:39,817 --> 00:07:42,617 Speaker 1: spell out these from CNN the potential risks of a 126 00:07:42,697 --> 00:07:45,617 Speaker 1: visit in meetings with Pelosi and her team. Pentagon officials 127 00:07:45,617 --> 00:07:47,697 Speaker 1: briefed the speaker last week about Taiwan and the heightened 128 00:07:47,737 --> 00:07:50,697 Speaker 1: tensions in the region. White House officials were also present 129 00:07:50,737 --> 00:07:53,217 Speaker 1: for the briefing. The president Let's slip last week at 130 00:07:53,217 --> 00:07:56,297 Speaker 1: the US military was opposed to Pelosi visiting Taiwan now, 131 00:07:56,577 --> 00:08:02,417 Speaker 1: but the White House has refused to expand on his comments. Look, ultimately, 132 00:08:02,937 --> 00:08:04,777 Speaker 1: this comes down to what are we willing to do 133 00:08:05,257 --> 00:08:07,817 Speaker 1: in the defense of that island, Because if we're not 134 00:08:07,857 --> 00:08:09,577 Speaker 1: willing to defend it, it it won't be able to defend 135 00:08:09,617 --> 00:08:14,137 Speaker 1: itself from a Chinese invasion. And what would be willing 136 00:08:14,177 --> 00:08:16,097 Speaker 1: to do if we did decide to defend it. Does 137 00:08:16,097 --> 00:08:18,057 Speaker 1: that mean full scale war? Does it mean some kind 138 00:08:18,057 --> 00:08:22,337 Speaker 1: of attempt at a limited military incursion against an invasion force. 139 00:08:23,217 --> 00:08:24,857 Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be an active war 140 00:08:24,897 --> 00:08:27,137 Speaker 1: from China over a Pelosi visit. That may or may 141 00:08:27,177 --> 00:08:30,657 Speaker 1: not happen, but it does raise the specter of a 142 00:08:31,737 --> 00:08:37,137 Speaker 1: future US confrontation with China over Taiwan, and we should 143 00:08:37,177 --> 00:08:40,457 Speaker 1: as a country, as a people, understand that now and 144 00:08:40,657 --> 00:08:44,057 Speaker 1: know what the States are and what we would do. 145 00:08:44,937 --> 00:08:48,777 Speaker 1: Strategic ambiguity is nonsense. People who say, oh, we have 146 00:08:48,817 --> 00:08:52,457 Speaker 1: this policy of ambiguity. That's essentially we have not publicly 147 00:08:52,497 --> 00:08:54,937 Speaker 1: decided what we would do. And the truth is because 148 00:08:54,937 --> 00:08:57,057 Speaker 1: we don't know what we would do. 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China continued some pretty aggressive 179 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:38,777 Speaker 1: military exercises off its coast over the weekend, including live 180 00:10:38,897 --> 00:10:42,217 Speaker 1: fire drills. The phone call last week, President Shijin Ping 181 00:10:42,417 --> 00:10:47,217 Speaker 1: warned Biden against external interference in Beijing's dealings with the island, 182 00:10:47,257 --> 00:10:50,817 Speaker 1: as China believes Taiwan has no right to conduct foreign relations. 183 00:10:51,177 --> 00:10:53,937 Speaker 1: So what will happen at Pelosi does in fact touchdown 184 00:10:53,977 --> 00:10:57,577 Speaker 1: in Taiwan. Let's ask senior research fell out the Heritage Foundation, 185 00:10:57,697 --> 00:11:01,777 Speaker 1: Dean Chang about this. Dean, thanks so much, absolutely, thanks 186 00:11:01,777 --> 00:11:06,577 Speaker 1: for having me. Let's start with this. Should Pelosi go 187 00:11:07,177 --> 00:11:09,897 Speaker 1: at this point in your mind and explain to us 188 00:11:09,897 --> 00:11:14,057 Speaker 1: what you're thinking is why you think so at this point, 189 00:11:14,097 --> 00:11:16,497 Speaker 1: I don't think we have a choice. I think a 190 00:11:16,497 --> 00:11:19,897 Speaker 1: speaker Pelosi has to go in no small part because 191 00:11:19,897 --> 00:11:23,417 Speaker 1: the Chinese are now insisting that she does not have 192 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:25,417 Speaker 1: a right to go. And if we give into this, 193 00:11:25,577 --> 00:11:28,377 Speaker 1: if we acceed to the Chinese claims, we are essentially 194 00:11:28,417 --> 00:11:33,057 Speaker 1: giving Beijing veto power over which American officials can and 195 00:11:33,177 --> 00:11:38,097 Speaker 1: presume which American officials cannot then go to Taiwan. BaiWan 196 00:11:38,337 --> 00:11:40,497 Speaker 1: may or may not be independent at this point. It 197 00:11:40,577 --> 00:11:43,057 Speaker 1: is not an independent country. It is not recognized, for example, 198 00:11:43,057 --> 00:11:46,217 Speaker 1: by the United States, but it is also not part 199 00:11:46,257 --> 00:11:48,857 Speaker 1: of China, and it's not for China to dictate whether 200 00:11:48,897 --> 00:11:52,697 Speaker 1: the speaker of the American House can go. Now, what 201 00:11:52,737 --> 00:11:57,937 Speaker 1: do you think are the realistic range of responses from China? 202 00:11:58,017 --> 00:12:00,977 Speaker 1: Assuming Pelosi does touchdown in Taiwan in the next twenty 203 00:12:00,977 --> 00:12:04,417 Speaker 1: four hours, What do you think are the are the 204 00:12:04,537 --> 00:12:07,137 Speaker 1: real possibilities here that we should be looking for in 205 00:12:07,257 --> 00:12:11,657 Speaker 1: terms of response. I think the things that absolutely will happen. 206 00:12:11,817 --> 00:12:16,857 Speaker 1: Kinda will protest. China will make speeches condemning this action, which, 207 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:20,257 Speaker 1: in their view, jeopardizes peace and stability in the Western Pacific. 208 00:12:20,617 --> 00:12:24,417 Speaker 1: They will likely cross the midline of the Taiwan Straits 209 00:12:24,497 --> 00:12:28,257 Speaker 1: with aircraft. They may send ships now that they're conducting 210 00:12:28,337 --> 00:12:32,217 Speaker 1: live fire exercises across the mid line, notably not within 211 00:12:32,297 --> 00:12:35,737 Speaker 1: twelve notable miles of Taiwan proper that would be very fun, 212 00:12:35,817 --> 00:12:37,497 Speaker 1: but you know, sort of just a crossing the line. 213 00:12:37,617 --> 00:12:41,057 Speaker 1: They'll probably circumnavigate, They will the island, they will probably 214 00:12:41,417 --> 00:12:44,657 Speaker 1: do more cyber attacks. They will probably put economic pressure 215 00:12:44,697 --> 00:12:47,257 Speaker 1: on the island. You hear a bunch of things like 216 00:12:47,337 --> 00:12:50,377 Speaker 1: for examples, they might shoot down Speaker Pelosi's fine. Frankly, 217 00:12:50,417 --> 00:12:54,777 Speaker 1: I think that is irresponsible, not even speculation. It's fantasy 218 00:12:55,137 --> 00:12:57,377 Speaker 1: of people who are hoping that China will do something 219 00:12:57,417 --> 00:12:59,977 Speaker 1: incredibly stupid. But if you take a look in the 220 00:13:00,017 --> 00:13:04,817 Speaker 1: post post Mountsadong Europe, including under Dung Chowpe, the Chinese 221 00:13:04,817 --> 00:13:07,537 Speaker 1: have done nothing similar to say the Russians who have 222 00:13:07,577 --> 00:13:13,457 Speaker 1: actually poisoned dissidents in right, and so Pelosi going is 223 00:13:13,457 --> 00:13:15,737 Speaker 1: the right thing. You think there'll be some noise from 224 00:13:15,817 --> 00:13:18,937 Speaker 1: China about this, but not a whole lot more than 225 00:13:19,617 --> 00:13:22,097 Speaker 1: the measures that you you laid out right, I mean 226 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:27,217 Speaker 1: crossing this, putting planes closer, but not open hostilities of 227 00:13:27,257 --> 00:13:31,057 Speaker 1: any kind. You don't foresee that happening, you know, policy 228 00:13:31,217 --> 00:13:33,177 Speaker 1: with regard to time. I'm sorry, go ahead, Dean, if 229 00:13:33,177 --> 00:13:36,097 Speaker 1: you wanted to add more. Yeah, I think if you 230 00:13:36,137 --> 00:13:40,017 Speaker 1: are a company headquartered in Speaker Pelosi's district, you're likely 231 00:13:40,017 --> 00:13:42,577 Speaker 1: to get Chinese pressure. If you are a company that 232 00:13:42,657 --> 00:13:46,697 Speaker 1: relies on parts from China in Speaker Pelosi's district, you're 233 00:13:46,697 --> 00:13:49,857 Speaker 1: going to get pressure. But overt hostilities, actually use of 234 00:13:49,897 --> 00:13:53,937 Speaker 1: military forts, no, I don't think so. Now, the Biden 235 00:13:54,017 --> 00:13:57,537 Speaker 1: White House has been back and forth on this issue 236 00:13:57,577 --> 00:14:00,657 Speaker 1: of Taiwan, in part just cleaning up for Joe Biden, 237 00:14:00,657 --> 00:14:02,297 Speaker 1: which is a whole separate issue from what the actual 238 00:14:02,297 --> 00:14:04,337 Speaker 1: policy may be because he's Joe Biden, right, so we've 239 00:14:04,337 --> 00:14:06,297 Speaker 1: all seen that. But putting that aside for a moment. 240 00:14:07,457 --> 00:14:14,297 Speaker 1: The Defense Press Secretary today he said that we that 241 00:14:14,297 --> 00:14:17,777 Speaker 1: the Bide administration does not support an independent Taiwan. We 242 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:21,097 Speaker 1: have strategic ambiguity. As the phrase that everybody uses about this, 243 00:14:21,857 --> 00:14:25,417 Speaker 1: what really is US policy with regard to Taiwan right now? 244 00:14:25,457 --> 00:14:29,257 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're gonna send Speaker Pelosi. Probably it 245 00:14:29,297 --> 00:14:31,697 Speaker 1: operates as an independent country, but it's not technically an 246 00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:34,737 Speaker 1: independent country. Would we defend it? Will we not defend it? 247 00:14:34,737 --> 00:14:37,857 Speaker 1: It feels like there are that people act like there 248 00:14:37,897 --> 00:14:39,617 Speaker 1: are clear answers to all this, but there really aren't 249 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:45,737 Speaker 1: clear answers. So the situation with Taiwan is the follow 250 00:14:46,217 --> 00:14:51,337 Speaker 1: The United States does not want either side did unilaterally 251 00:14:51,497 --> 00:14:55,177 Speaker 1: change the situation in the Taiwan streets. That means we 252 00:14:55,177 --> 00:14:58,097 Speaker 1: don't want kind of invading Taiwan, but we also don't 253 00:14:58,137 --> 00:15:03,737 Speaker 1: want Taiwan declaring independence. And in the past when Taiwan's 254 00:15:03,817 --> 00:15:06,337 Speaker 1: leaders have gone down that path. They have taken very 255 00:15:06,377 --> 00:15:10,497 Speaker 1: irresponsible measures. A former leader of Taiwan went so far 256 00:15:10,537 --> 00:15:12,817 Speaker 1: as to say, you know, America has to defend us. 257 00:15:12,937 --> 00:15:15,097 Speaker 1: They have no choice. So if we declare independence in China, 258 00:15:15,137 --> 00:15:17,457 Speaker 1: attack America will have to come to our rescue. That 259 00:15:17,497 --> 00:15:20,057 Speaker 1: would be like Poland saying if we invade Russia. You know, 260 00:15:20,097 --> 00:15:22,057 Speaker 1: we're a member of NATO, so NATO has to come 261 00:15:22,057 --> 00:15:25,297 Speaker 1: and save the right. That's clearly not the case. That's 262 00:15:25,337 --> 00:15:28,537 Speaker 1: clearly not something anyone signed up for. So that's why 263 00:15:28,537 --> 00:15:32,097 Speaker 1: we have strategic ambiguity. We are saying to Taiwan, look, 264 00:15:32,857 --> 00:15:36,177 Speaker 1: don't deplare independence, don't grow that in the Chinese Spa. 265 00:15:36,657 --> 00:15:39,177 Speaker 1: And we're saying to Beijing, if you launch an in Beijing, 266 00:15:39,657 --> 00:15:41,417 Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that you're going to find 267 00:15:41,417 --> 00:15:43,857 Speaker 1: a seventh fleet in your face, a close in person. 268 00:15:44,457 --> 00:15:47,577 Speaker 1: So that is why we have this policyve strtigue of 269 00:15:47,657 --> 00:15:51,017 Speaker 1: ambiguity because it's a three way situation. Now we are 270 00:15:51,057 --> 00:15:54,417 Speaker 1: trying to keep the lid on both Taipei and Beijing. 271 00:15:54,857 --> 00:15:56,417 Speaker 1: So where does that lead us? Though? I mean, what 272 00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:59,977 Speaker 1: is the pathway? Then it's status quo until someone decides 273 00:15:59,977 --> 00:16:02,937 Speaker 1: to change it, right, So is there a future you 274 00:16:02,977 --> 00:16:05,737 Speaker 1: could see in which China would just decide to go 275 00:16:05,817 --> 00:16:07,537 Speaker 1: for it? Right? I mean, look, Putin did go for 276 00:16:07,617 --> 00:16:13,217 Speaker 1: it in Ukraine. Around twenty twenty seven is when the 277 00:16:13,297 --> 00:16:18,017 Speaker 1: People's Liberation Army says we are going to be fully ready, 278 00:16:18,217 --> 00:16:20,137 Speaker 1: we are going to be fully modernized, will be what 279 00:16:20,177 --> 00:16:25,457 Speaker 1: they term fully mechanized, fully informationized, fully intelligence size. That 280 00:16:25,577 --> 00:16:27,737 Speaker 1: is the period when we are at the greatest danger, 281 00:16:27,977 --> 00:16:30,537 Speaker 1: when the PLA says, whatever you want us to do, 282 00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:33,817 Speaker 1: we are ready to do. And it's also gonna be 283 00:16:33,817 --> 00:16:35,897 Speaker 1: the time when a whole lot of the US military 284 00:16:35,977 --> 00:16:39,977 Speaker 1: is going to be underfunded, when modernization programs are only 285 00:16:39,977 --> 00:16:41,897 Speaker 1: going to be starting, when a whole lot of systems 286 00:16:41,897 --> 00:16:44,697 Speaker 1: are gonna be obsolete. We are retirnationships fasting than we 287 00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:47,017 Speaker 1: are building them, and in twenty twenty seven we're gonna 288 00:16:47,097 --> 00:16:50,017 Speaker 1: probably have a smaller navy than we do now. So 289 00:16:50,417 --> 00:16:53,137 Speaker 1: that is going to be the period of fully greatest danger. 290 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:56,617 Speaker 1: At the moment, we're still on a pretty good situation 291 00:16:56,657 --> 00:16:59,057 Speaker 1: in terms of our military and the PLA. If you 292 00:16:59,097 --> 00:17:02,217 Speaker 1: ask them, we'll say we are not fully modernized yet. 293 00:17:02,457 --> 00:17:04,737 Speaker 1: Are they really committed I mean he's the Communist Is 294 00:17:04,737 --> 00:17:08,417 Speaker 1: the Chinese Commnist Party committed to taking Taiwan by force 295 00:17:08,737 --> 00:17:12,937 Speaker 1: when they think they are capable of doing it At 296 00:17:12,937 --> 00:17:15,697 Speaker 1: this point in time, I would say yes, they would 297 00:17:15,697 --> 00:17:19,337 Speaker 1: prefer to take it peacefully. But I think that Jing 298 00:17:19,417 --> 00:17:22,897 Speaker 1: Ping really does believe that E and the CCP have 299 00:17:22,977 --> 00:17:26,457 Speaker 1: a destiny that by twenty forty nine, one hundreds anniversary 300 00:17:26,497 --> 00:17:28,697 Speaker 1: of the founding of the People's Republic of China, it 301 00:17:28,737 --> 00:17:33,457 Speaker 1: will be a full People's Republic of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, 302 00:17:33,937 --> 00:17:36,377 Speaker 1: all of these regions will be part of China. I 303 00:17:36,377 --> 00:17:40,817 Speaker 1: think that is truly their game plan. Dean appreciate the aspertise. 304 00:17:40,817 --> 00:17:45,497 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, Thanks for having as a 305 00:17:45,537 --> 00:17:47,497 Speaker 1: nation in waits to learn whether or not Donald Trump 306 00:17:47,497 --> 00:17:49,257 Speaker 1: will seek another term in the Oval Office. 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Will Donald Trump run for a second term 334 00:19:09,137 --> 00:19:13,017 Speaker 1: as president, and so can he defeat his Democratic opponent. 335 00:19:13,257 --> 00:19:16,417 Speaker 1: One of the former president's top advisors, Peter Navarro, thinks 336 00:19:16,457 --> 00:19:20,657 Speaker 1: he has the answers. In his forthcoming book entitled taking 337 00:19:20,697 --> 00:19:23,057 Speaker 1: Back Trump's America, Why We Lost the White House and 338 00:19:23,057 --> 00:19:26,257 Speaker 1: How We'll win it back, Peter examines what went wrong 339 00:19:26,857 --> 00:19:29,497 Speaker 1: in Trump's first term and how he can ultimately take 340 00:19:29,537 --> 00:19:32,577 Speaker 1: back the White House in twenty twenty four. Running me 341 00:19:32,617 --> 00:19:35,697 Speaker 1: now to discuss Former Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy 342 00:19:35,737 --> 00:19:39,537 Speaker 1: for President Trump, Peter Navarro, Peter going to see him, Julie. 343 00:19:39,817 --> 00:19:43,417 Speaker 1: Great to be with you again, sir, and yes he's 344 00:19:43,457 --> 00:19:47,497 Speaker 1: gonna run in The Taking Back Trump's America book really 345 00:19:47,577 --> 00:19:51,217 Speaker 1: is a blueprint and battle cry for the whole MAGA 346 00:19:51,377 --> 00:19:54,937 Speaker 1: movement not just to take back the White House for 347 00:19:55,057 --> 00:20:00,457 Speaker 1: Trump in twenty twenty four, but importantly it'd also grab 348 00:20:00,897 --> 00:20:05,137 Speaker 1: that House of Representatives from the clutches of the Nancy 349 00:20:05,257 --> 00:20:10,337 Speaker 1: Pelosi back in twenty eighteen. One of the mist as 350 00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:13,857 Speaker 1: we made that I documented into Taking Back Trump's America 351 00:20:13,937 --> 00:20:18,737 Speaker 1: book was to focus too narrowly on the Senate races 352 00:20:18,777 --> 00:20:21,897 Speaker 1: in the mid term elections. We could have held on 353 00:20:22,497 --> 00:20:27,497 Speaker 1: to the House of Representatives in twenty eighteen. But there 354 00:20:27,577 --> 00:20:30,177 Speaker 1: was a couple of people inside the White House who 355 00:20:30,257 --> 00:20:34,817 Speaker 1: screwed that up, to be honest, and the hell we 356 00:20:34,897 --> 00:20:38,217 Speaker 1: would pay for that single mistake would be massive, because 357 00:20:38,257 --> 00:20:41,657 Speaker 1: once you put the House in charge of Pelosi and 358 00:20:41,777 --> 00:20:48,777 Speaker 1: Shift and little Jamie Raskin, they unleashed several discredited impeachment trials, 359 00:20:49,137 --> 00:20:54,577 Speaker 1: an all manner of weaponized investigations for partisan ends, which 360 00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:59,977 Speaker 1: you know, the President obviously didn't get successfully impeached. But 361 00:21:00,177 --> 00:21:04,257 Speaker 1: I think but the drip drip drip of the water 362 00:21:04,417 --> 00:21:07,577 Speaker 1: torture from those bastards, and I call them that with 363 00:21:07,697 --> 00:21:11,417 Speaker 1: all due affection, took its So we've got to get 364 00:21:11,417 --> 00:21:15,097 Speaker 1: the house bag in twenty twenty two. I'm really focused 365 00:21:15,137 --> 00:21:19,657 Speaker 1: on that. Now I do it with Trump Republicans, Trump Republicans, 366 00:21:19,697 --> 00:21:23,737 Speaker 1: not just Republicans. And then, yeah, there's no question in 367 00:21:23,777 --> 00:21:26,137 Speaker 1: my mind that the Boss runs. He hasn't told me that, 368 00:21:27,137 --> 00:21:30,097 Speaker 1: but um, you know, he'd win if he run, and 369 00:21:30,137 --> 00:21:32,657 Speaker 1: he knows what to do, and this nation needs him 370 00:21:32,697 --> 00:21:38,617 Speaker 1: because God knows, the Democrats you're doing every single thing wrong. Peter. 371 00:21:38,777 --> 00:21:40,257 Speaker 1: I know in the in the book, you lay out 372 00:21:40,337 --> 00:21:43,537 Speaker 1: what you think would be a dream Trump cabinet for 373 00:21:43,737 --> 00:21:47,057 Speaker 1: term two, you've got, for example, former Trump National's Curtenty 374 00:21:47,057 --> 00:21:50,017 Speaker 1: advisor Robert O. Bryan becomes Secretary of State. Ben Carson 375 00:21:50,137 --> 00:21:54,657 Speaker 1: runs runs HHS. Leidheiser goes over to Commerce. Cash Betel, 376 00:21:54,817 --> 00:21:57,537 Speaker 1: friend of mine, friend of the show, becomes d n I. 377 00:21:57,977 --> 00:22:02,697 Speaker 1: John Ratcliffe becomes CIA director. Ken Kucinelli returns as head 378 00:22:02,697 --> 00:22:05,857 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security. So some very good folks in there. 379 00:22:06,497 --> 00:22:10,457 Speaker 1: I gotta ask, do you think that the former President 380 00:22:10,457 --> 00:22:14,297 Speaker 1: Trump now recognizes that there were some pretty big mistakes 381 00:22:14,337 --> 00:22:17,017 Speaker 1: made in the first term in terms of personnel, especially 382 00:22:17,057 --> 00:22:19,177 Speaker 1: giving that there are people that have now made careers 383 00:22:19,217 --> 00:22:22,097 Speaker 1: who were senior officials trashing the man they went to 384 00:22:22,097 --> 00:22:25,937 Speaker 1: work for. Yeah. The answer, the quick answers yes. The 385 00:22:26,017 --> 00:22:29,297 Speaker 1: more textured answer, you go back to the Reagan years. Buck, 386 00:22:29,657 --> 00:22:33,417 Speaker 1: there was this saying personnel is policy, and Reagan wanted 387 00:22:33,417 --> 00:22:35,417 Speaker 1: to make sure that he got the right people in 388 00:22:35,457 --> 00:22:39,577 Speaker 1: there so he'd have his reagan As policies. In the 389 00:22:39,657 --> 00:22:42,857 Speaker 1: Taking Back Trump's America book, I refine that that bad 390 00:22:42,977 --> 00:22:47,777 Speaker 1: personnel is not just bad policy, but bad politics. And 391 00:22:48,177 --> 00:22:50,737 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at all the mistakes 392 00:22:50,777 --> 00:22:54,057 Speaker 1: that were made, the president is well aware that there 393 00:22:54,057 --> 00:22:56,377 Speaker 1: were a lot of people in there that shouldn't have 394 00:22:56,457 --> 00:22:59,097 Speaker 1: been and did him damage. I mean, look just all 395 00:22:59,137 --> 00:23:01,537 Speaker 1: the people he had to fire, whether it was Rex 396 00:23:01,577 --> 00:23:06,737 Speaker 1: Tillerson in stage, Jim Mattis at the Defense Department. But 397 00:23:07,457 --> 00:23:11,777 Speaker 1: the two people that I really feel ultimately did the 398 00:23:11,817 --> 00:23:14,457 Speaker 1: most damage to the boss with two people who stayed 399 00:23:14,457 --> 00:23:17,617 Speaker 1: on and should never darken the Boss's door again. And 400 00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:20,897 Speaker 1: that would have been Steve Manuchin at the Treasury Department, 401 00:23:20,897 --> 00:23:26,257 Speaker 1: who completely undermined our China tough on China policy at 402 00:23:26,257 --> 00:23:28,937 Speaker 1: the same time that he bobbled the ball up on 403 00:23:29,017 --> 00:23:33,937 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. And then Jared Kushner, who really had the damage. 404 00:23:34,497 --> 00:23:38,177 Speaker 1: When when you get through reading taking Back Trump's America 405 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:42,217 Speaker 1: and catalog all of the damage Kushner did, you'll see 406 00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:45,497 Speaker 1: that he never belonged there to begin within the boss. 407 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:49,217 Speaker 1: Look he Look, Kushner has taken himself out of the 408 00:23:49,217 --> 00:23:52,897 Speaker 1: equation with his behavior after the first term here selling 409 00:23:52,977 --> 00:23:56,457 Speaker 1: out to all the interests that he was catering to 410 00:23:56,617 --> 00:24:02,377 Speaker 1: when he was inside. But bad personnel, bad policy, bad politics. 411 00:24:02,697 --> 00:24:06,137 Speaker 1: We can't make that mistake again. I think President Trump 412 00:24:06,217 --> 00:24:10,617 Speaker 1: is well aware that he needs to really really get 413 00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:12,137 Speaker 1: a strong ale and see that's why I put up 414 00:24:12,137 --> 00:24:14,737 Speaker 1: the dream Cabinet, and Buck by the way I put in, 415 00:24:16,617 --> 00:24:19,137 Speaker 1: I recommend it. I went through all the possible vice 416 00:24:19,177 --> 00:24:25,017 Speaker 1: president candidates, and I think the optimal situation is to 417 00:24:25,017 --> 00:24:28,937 Speaker 1: see if de Santos will agree to be as VP 418 00:24:29,137 --> 00:24:31,497 Speaker 1: and just clear the field. I think if they did, Dad, 419 00:24:31,977 --> 00:24:34,297 Speaker 1: and that's into Santa's interest because he'd be in the 420 00:24:34,297 --> 00:24:38,817 Speaker 1: White House for twelve years because he'd successfully run after that. 421 00:24:39,977 --> 00:24:43,737 Speaker 1: But but below the Santis, it's a pretty thin bench 422 00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:48,097 Speaker 1: in terms of possible VP candidates. Your book goes into 423 00:24:48,457 --> 00:24:50,897 Speaker 1: the five what you call the five strategic failures of 424 00:24:50,897 --> 00:24:53,617 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Yeah. See, I find this really interesting 425 00:24:53,657 --> 00:24:56,577 Speaker 1: because one thing that's taking back Trump's America. You know, 426 00:24:56,897 --> 00:24:59,137 Speaker 1: I was a big Trump supporter. Obviously you were a 427 00:24:59,177 --> 00:25:01,857 Speaker 1: major part of the administration. You're a Trump supporter to 428 00:25:01,897 --> 00:25:06,217 Speaker 1: this day. I was always frustrated that there was very 429 00:25:06,257 --> 00:25:10,017 Speaker 1: little room for trying to coach the administration right rooting 430 00:25:10,177 --> 00:25:12,457 Speaker 1: for the team, so to speak, but coaching in the 431 00:25:12,537 --> 00:25:15,257 Speaker 1: right direction. People said, oh, you're staying Trump knows what 432 00:25:15,297 --> 00:25:17,497 Speaker 1: he's doing with the MAGA agenda, and just be quiet 433 00:25:17,577 --> 00:25:21,057 Speaker 1: everything else. There were some places where with any administration, 434 00:25:21,177 --> 00:25:24,257 Speaker 1: things could have been better. You talk about five strategic failures. 435 00:25:24,297 --> 00:25:27,857 Speaker 1: You want a successful second Trump term. So what are 436 00:25:27,857 --> 00:25:29,817 Speaker 1: the lessons learned? What are the things that need to 437 00:25:29,817 --> 00:25:33,537 Speaker 1: be applied for the next time around? Well, there's there's 438 00:25:33,577 --> 00:25:36,217 Speaker 1: four hundred pages of that in the Taking Back Trump's 439 00:25:36,257 --> 00:25:42,497 Speaker 1: America book, But I think that look pure maga is 440 00:25:42,577 --> 00:25:47,217 Speaker 1: three things. It's secure, secure boarders, certainly, and in the 441 00:25:47,217 --> 00:25:50,297 Speaker 1: analysts wars. But the really important thing, and really the 442 00:25:50,417 --> 00:25:54,337 Speaker 1: key politically the battleground states, is the fair trade. I mean, 443 00:25:54,857 --> 00:26:00,177 Speaker 1: Republicans are a dime a dozen who support cutting taxes 444 00:26:00,217 --> 00:26:03,537 Speaker 1: and deregulation and even one of the things that was 445 00:26:03,577 --> 00:26:06,897 Speaker 1: the hallmark of Trump's administration where we got strategic energy 446 00:26:06,937 --> 00:26:11,417 Speaker 1: dominance and energy important independence. I mean we didn't have 447 00:26:11,457 --> 00:26:15,177 Speaker 1: to do that, But what really the future of this 448 00:26:15,337 --> 00:26:19,577 Speaker 1: country really depends on onshore in our manufacturing, and that's 449 00:26:20,217 --> 00:26:22,657 Speaker 1: what we got to focus on. That's what the Boss 450 00:26:22,697 --> 00:26:25,577 Speaker 1: really wanted to do. But too many times there were 451 00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:30,337 Speaker 1: just too many people inside Manu Chin, Cudlow, Gary Comb 452 00:26:30,417 --> 00:26:34,857 Speaker 1: before him, in the National Economic Council, Tillerson, and State. 453 00:26:35,137 --> 00:26:39,297 Speaker 1: And I documented the Taking Back Trump's America book all 454 00:26:39,337 --> 00:26:41,457 Speaker 1: of times I had to fight these guys. I mean 455 00:26:41,497 --> 00:26:44,097 Speaker 1: it was like we'd go into the Roosevelt Room, We'd 456 00:26:44,097 --> 00:26:47,777 Speaker 1: be sitting around the whole cabinet and the White House 457 00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:51,217 Speaker 1: senior officials, and that Trump and I would be the 458 00:26:51,257 --> 00:26:54,257 Speaker 1: only people in the room who wanted tariffs on steel 459 00:26:54,297 --> 00:26:56,817 Speaker 1: and illuminum in China. And I'm thinking to myself, what 460 00:26:56,897 --> 00:26:59,217 Speaker 1: the hell is going on here? It's like, that's not 461 00:26:59,297 --> 00:27:02,217 Speaker 1: what we can you know. It's like, we can't paint 462 00:27:02,297 --> 00:27:05,777 Speaker 1: on tariffs. We got elected on tariffs. We got elected 463 00:27:05,817 --> 00:27:08,697 Speaker 1: on tough on China. Why are all these people in 464 00:27:08,697 --> 00:27:13,457 Speaker 1: this room here and against that? So yeah, I mean, 465 00:27:13,617 --> 00:27:19,657 Speaker 1: look the past, this prologue, you've heard that it can't 466 00:27:19,697 --> 00:27:22,457 Speaker 1: be in the second term. 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We'll be right back with more all 500 00:28:59,977 --> 00:29:09,217 Speaker 1: the line. In a stunning about phase streaming service, Hulu 501 00:29:09,337 --> 00:29:13,017 Speaker 1: will now allow democratic campaign ads on issues of abortion, 502 00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:17,257 Speaker 1: gun control, and the January sixth Capital riot, after initially 503 00:29:17,377 --> 00:29:20,697 Speaker 1: refusing to run them. The reversal comes after a number 504 00:29:20,697 --> 00:29:24,177 Speaker 1: of Democratic groups accused Hulu of political censorship. In a 505 00:29:24,257 --> 00:29:26,617 Speaker 1: statement to The Washington Post, the group said, quote voters 506 00:29:26,657 --> 00:29:30,457 Speaker 1: have the right to know the facts about MAGA Republicans 507 00:29:30,617 --> 00:29:33,777 Speaker 1: agenda on issues like abortion, and Hulu is doing a 508 00:29:33,857 --> 00:29:36,577 Speaker 1: huge disservice to the American people by blocking voters from 509 00:29:36,657 --> 00:29:40,097 Speaker 1: learning the truth about the GOP record or denying these 510 00:29:40,137 --> 00:29:43,337 Speaker 1: issues from even being discussed. Who lose decision to cave 511 00:29:43,417 --> 00:29:46,137 Speaker 1: to the pressure violates its long standing policy against airing 512 00:29:46,177 --> 00:29:51,177 Speaker 1: ads featuring quote content that takes a position on controversial 513 00:29:51,217 --> 00:29:54,537 Speaker 1: issues of public importance. So why the change of heart? 514 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:57,857 Speaker 1: Let's talk to the program director of the National Journalism 515 00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:01,177 Speaker 1: Center and Commas. The Washington Examiner and buddy from my 516 00:30:01,297 --> 00:30:04,897 Speaker 1: Blaze days, mister Beckett, Adams Beckett, good to see it, 517 00:30:05,617 --> 00:30:09,137 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Didn't last very long. I mean 518 00:30:09,177 --> 00:30:10,857 Speaker 1: I think it was a week ago. Either a story 519 00:30:10,897 --> 00:30:12,577 Speaker 1: here about how oh Hulu says they're not going to 520 00:30:12,617 --> 00:30:15,897 Speaker 1: take these ads. Whoops, now they are? What changed here? 521 00:30:15,937 --> 00:30:20,097 Speaker 1: What really changed? You already used the words pressure. Democrats 522 00:30:20,177 --> 00:30:21,977 Speaker 1: play their hand really well on this. They went and 523 00:30:21,977 --> 00:30:24,577 Speaker 1: complained to the right people, being the press, whether it 524 00:30:24,617 --> 00:30:26,977 Speaker 1: was leaking letters to you know, sort of the left 525 00:30:27,017 --> 00:30:29,817 Speaker 1: wing blogs like Jess Bell, and then going directly with 526 00:30:29,897 --> 00:30:34,137 Speaker 1: the original juicy exclusive statements to the Washington Post, and 527 00:30:34,177 --> 00:30:38,057 Speaker 1: they pushed and then to their benefit, the press handed 528 00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:41,417 Speaker 1: this like it was something unprecedented and shocking when, as 529 00:30:41,457 --> 00:30:44,137 Speaker 1: you already mentioned, Hulu has a long standing policy against 530 00:30:44,137 --> 00:30:45,777 Speaker 1: these sort of ads. But all you need to do 531 00:30:45,817 --> 00:30:47,257 Speaker 1: is get a little bit of pressure from the right 532 00:30:47,257 --> 00:30:48,977 Speaker 1: places and media. Next thing, you know, where you got 533 00:30:48,977 --> 00:30:51,737 Speaker 1: yourself a PR crisis in the easiest way out is 534 00:30:51,737 --> 00:30:55,097 Speaker 1: to just cave. I gotta ask you this because you know, 535 00:30:55,137 --> 00:30:59,137 Speaker 1: I'm a former Hulu subscriber and I bailed after I 536 00:30:59,177 --> 00:31:01,297 Speaker 1: just felt like every every time I clicked that any 537 00:31:01,377 --> 00:31:04,057 Speaker 1: knew offering from Hulu. You know, I was getting a 538 00:31:05,417 --> 00:31:09,497 Speaker 1: lecture on either trans issues or race relations or something else. 539 00:31:09,537 --> 00:31:12,897 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I thought this was like a quiz show, 540 00:31:13,057 --> 00:31:16,337 Speaker 1: or I thought I was watching a cooking show, and 541 00:31:16,337 --> 00:31:18,217 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it didn't matter what it was 542 00:31:18,457 --> 00:31:21,057 Speaker 1: at all, and they just made it made it about wokeness, 543 00:31:21,097 --> 00:31:23,617 Speaker 1: and it just a lot of content was just garbage too. 544 00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:25,217 Speaker 1: So I just want to know, I mean, do you 545 00:31:25,257 --> 00:31:28,657 Speaker 1: think that does Hulu even care what its subscribers want 546 00:31:28,697 --> 00:31:30,537 Speaker 1: when it comes to this decision, or is this just 547 00:31:30,617 --> 00:31:36,417 Speaker 1: the the peer group pressure that the C suite folks decided, well, 548 00:31:36,817 --> 00:31:39,257 Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to be treated poorly, as 549 00:31:39,337 --> 00:31:41,777 Speaker 1: you said in Jezebel or you know, the Daily Beast 550 00:31:41,897 --> 00:31:45,017 Speaker 1: or any of these left wing rags. Well, right, the 551 00:31:45,057 --> 00:31:47,497 Speaker 1: easiest way out of this is just do it. It 552 00:31:47,657 --> 00:31:50,337 Speaker 1: was interesting that that should be noted as on other 553 00:31:50,417 --> 00:31:53,937 Speaker 1: Disney affiliated networks, including there was an ABC News affiliate 554 00:31:53,977 --> 00:31:56,617 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and ESPN they ran some of these ads. 555 00:31:56,777 --> 00:31:59,297 Speaker 1: So Democrats were getting what they wanted. They just wanted 556 00:31:59,337 --> 00:32:02,657 Speaker 1: a carve out for themselves, a special exemption from Hulu, 557 00:32:02,697 --> 00:32:04,617 Speaker 1: and they got it just by complaining to the Washington 558 00:32:04,617 --> 00:32:07,577 Speaker 1: Post and the press. This is important working hand in 559 00:32:07,617 --> 00:32:09,817 Speaker 1: hand to talk about how this was tense amounts of 560 00:32:10,097 --> 00:32:12,257 Speaker 1: the cool censorship, despite the fact that even as the 561 00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:15,337 Speaker 1: Washington Post notes, this is a longstanding policy they just 562 00:32:15,377 --> 00:32:17,697 Speaker 1: wanted to carve out and now they got it being 563 00:32:17,697 --> 00:32:20,217 Speaker 1: in a censorship. I'm sure you saw that. On the 564 00:32:20,337 --> 00:32:25,297 Speaker 1: issue of recession, there have been efforts to shut down 565 00:32:25,297 --> 00:32:29,657 Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page from new edits on the word recession. 566 00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:33,257 Speaker 1: Elon Musk even tweeted out about this over the weekend. 567 00:32:34,737 --> 00:32:37,777 Speaker 1: This all feels very soviet. It all feels like we're 568 00:32:37,817 --> 00:32:41,297 Speaker 1: now at the point in our politics where the power 569 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,137 Speaker 1: centers will decide that words don't mean what they mean, 570 00:32:44,497 --> 00:32:47,457 Speaker 1: and the media, which are supposed to be back at 571 00:32:47,457 --> 00:32:51,377 Speaker 1: the guardians of free speech, which is laughable when you 572 00:32:51,417 --> 00:32:53,417 Speaker 1: say that out loud, they go along with us. They're like, yeah, 573 00:32:53,497 --> 00:32:56,497 Speaker 1: let's just redefine recession. Yeah, this is the issue you 574 00:32:56,577 --> 00:32:58,577 Speaker 1: get into where people start poking fun at you and 575 00:32:58,657 --> 00:33:01,817 Speaker 1: saying slippery slow oh, but this is where it starts. 576 00:33:01,857 --> 00:33:03,777 Speaker 1: And not to be cliche or trite, but you know, 577 00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:06,057 Speaker 1: George Orrell wrote about this in The Politics and the 578 00:33:06,097 --> 00:33:08,177 Speaker 1: English Language. If you want to win you got to 579 00:33:08,177 --> 00:33:10,057 Speaker 1: capture the language. And we're seeing this in real time, 580 00:33:10,377 --> 00:33:13,017 Speaker 1: watching the White House and its allies in the press 581 00:33:13,097 --> 00:33:17,257 Speaker 1: in real time redefining the term recession. For literally decades, 582 00:33:17,497 --> 00:33:19,817 Speaker 1: we've all agreed on one tournament. Now people are saying, actually, 583 00:33:19,817 --> 00:33:23,177 Speaker 1: it's not two consecutive quarters of negative GDP. That never mattered. 584 00:33:23,617 --> 00:33:26,857 Speaker 1: Paul Krugman said, verbatim, ignore the two quarter rule. And 585 00:33:27,097 --> 00:33:29,977 Speaker 1: he never said or answered the question why why should 586 00:33:29,977 --> 00:33:32,817 Speaker 1: we suddenly do this? Because words now, our fluid words 587 00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:34,497 Speaker 1: mean what we need them to be. We see Mariam 588 00:33:34,537 --> 00:33:38,217 Speaker 1: Webster on the fly during the you know, the confirmation 589 00:33:38,257 --> 00:33:40,817 Speaker 1: hearings of Amy Komi Barrett was on the fly redefining 590 00:33:40,857 --> 00:33:44,097 Speaker 1: certain terms like sexual orientation. It's it's a scary place 591 00:33:44,097 --> 00:33:45,657 Speaker 1: to get to. Even again, I don't want to sound 592 00:33:45,697 --> 00:33:48,097 Speaker 1: like the slippery slope on paranoid, but this is how 593 00:33:48,097 --> 00:33:49,857 Speaker 1: it starts. When you start playing with the words and 594 00:33:49,857 --> 00:33:52,417 Speaker 1: you start redefining them on the fly for political purposes, 595 00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:56,257 Speaker 1: that's when the echo where hyperinflation doesn't mean anything evenymore, 596 00:33:56,297 --> 00:33:58,137 Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, the word war doesn't 597 00:33:58,137 --> 00:34:02,177 Speaker 1: mean anything anymore. Just also in the media realm, I 598 00:34:02,617 --> 00:34:04,457 Speaker 1: wanted to ask for your take on this. You know, 599 00:34:04,497 --> 00:34:06,857 Speaker 1: there's some reporting that whether it's The New York Times 600 00:34:06,937 --> 00:34:12,897 Speaker 1: or CNN, there's a recognition that Republican lawmakers won't even 601 00:34:12,977 --> 00:34:15,577 Speaker 1: go on certain that they won't sit for interviews with 602 00:34:15,617 --> 00:34:18,377 Speaker 1: certain journalists who are at places like The New York Times. 603 00:34:18,497 --> 00:34:20,977 Speaker 1: They won't go on CNN. By the way, I think 604 00:34:20,977 --> 00:34:24,177 Speaker 1: that Republicans who do go on CNN are generally just 605 00:34:24,617 --> 00:34:27,177 Speaker 1: opening themselves up to ambush. I think it's a stupid 606 00:34:27,217 --> 00:34:29,537 Speaker 1: move a lot of the time, or has been, certainly 607 00:34:29,537 --> 00:34:32,457 Speaker 1: in the Trump era, and it's aftermath a stupid move 608 00:34:32,497 --> 00:34:34,737 Speaker 1: for Republicans to go on CNN because they're not getting 609 00:34:34,737 --> 00:34:37,177 Speaker 1: a fair shake, not even close to it. Now. The 610 00:34:37,217 --> 00:34:42,857 Speaker 1: head of CNN, Chris Licht, is reportedly meeting with Republican 611 00:34:42,937 --> 00:34:45,177 Speaker 1: members of Congress to tell them, and he went down 612 00:34:45,177 --> 00:34:47,337 Speaker 1: to Capitol Hill for this to tell them, we really 613 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:49,217 Speaker 1: would appreciate if you would come on our heir. I 614 00:34:49,257 --> 00:34:52,097 Speaker 1: promise from the very top, you're not going to just 615 00:34:52,137 --> 00:34:54,257 Speaker 1: have tomatoes thrown at you, because that is what I 616 00:34:54,337 --> 00:34:55,737 Speaker 1: used to work at CN and I know this, that 617 00:34:55,857 --> 00:34:58,817 Speaker 1: is what they were doing there for years, right. I mean, 618 00:34:58,817 --> 00:35:01,017 Speaker 1: there's a difference between going to the lions Den and 619 00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:03,377 Speaker 1: then cutting out your heart and offering it up on 620 00:35:03,377 --> 00:35:05,977 Speaker 1: a platter. I think it's great if for polkins want 621 00:35:05,977 --> 00:35:08,497 Speaker 1: to meet and do interviews with tough journalists who ask 622 00:35:08,577 --> 00:35:11,137 Speaker 1: tough questions. But there's a difference between doing that and 623 00:35:11,137 --> 00:35:14,657 Speaker 1: then having John Hayward or having Candy Crowley moderate your debates. 624 00:35:14,857 --> 00:35:16,457 Speaker 1: I think it's a long time for the GOP to 625 00:35:16,457 --> 00:35:17,897 Speaker 1: actually take a line on some of this stuff and 626 00:35:17,937 --> 00:35:20,337 Speaker 1: say this isn't worth our time. It is a setup. 627 00:35:20,377 --> 00:35:22,857 Speaker 1: Why would I go on John Stewart to have you, 628 00:35:22,857 --> 00:35:24,617 Speaker 1: you know, edit what I'm saying. Not to say John 629 00:35:24,617 --> 00:35:27,977 Speaker 1: Stewart's a media guy, but increasingly there's a little difference 630 00:35:27,977 --> 00:35:30,697 Speaker 1: between what media guys doing what John Stewart does, and 631 00:35:31,017 --> 00:35:33,057 Speaker 1: why would you do that? So I think it's a 632 00:35:33,137 --> 00:35:36,097 Speaker 1: natural reaction to being given a raw deal. And it's 633 00:35:36,097 --> 00:35:38,617 Speaker 1: funny now to hear the press kind of say this 634 00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:41,777 Speaker 1: sort of concern trolling. Oh, if you don't talk to us, 635 00:35:41,777 --> 00:35:45,177 Speaker 1: it might hurt your electoral chances. It's like a friend 636 00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:46,857 Speaker 1: of mine made a really good analogy and it's that's 637 00:35:47,017 --> 00:35:51,737 Speaker 1: like a line, or you know, it's like what's your name? 638 00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:54,977 Speaker 1: From Charlie Brown, who Lucy, Lucy van Pell, Sorry, a 639 00:35:55,017 --> 00:35:57,457 Speaker 1: little like that, Lucy van Pell complaining that if Charlie 640 00:35:57,457 --> 00:35:59,737 Speaker 1: Brown doesn't kick the football, he's now endangering the game 641 00:35:59,737 --> 00:36:02,577 Speaker 1: of football. At some point you kind of wise up 642 00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:04,897 Speaker 1: to the tricks, and I think it's a natural progression 643 00:36:04,897 --> 00:36:07,297 Speaker 1: at this point. Okay, thanks for being one of us. 644 00:36:07,297 --> 00:36:11,697 Speaker 1: Good to see if thanks for having me. President Biden 645 00:36:11,777 --> 00:36:15,017 Speaker 1: is back in isolation after testing positive once again for 646 00:36:15,257 --> 00:36:18,337 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. We'll have that store for you in quick hits. First, 647 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:20,177 Speaker 1: let's talk about a potential opportunity. A lot of you 648 00:36:20,177 --> 00:36:22,737 Speaker 1: are worried about the reported food shortages and power outages 649 00:36:22,777 --> 00:36:24,857 Speaker 1: that could be headed our way. You're not alone. If 650 00:36:24,857 --> 00:36:26,977 Speaker 1: you look at the skyrocketing cost of energy and food 651 00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:28,897 Speaker 1: prices going through the roof, we're certainly headed in the 652 00:36:28,897 --> 00:36:32,457 Speaker 1: wrong direction. Many are choosing to go off grid in response. 653 00:36:32,777 --> 00:36:34,457 Speaker 1: When you think of going off gride, you might think 654 00:36:34,497 --> 00:36:36,977 Speaker 1: of living in the mountains somewhere far far from civilization. 655 00:36:37,617 --> 00:36:40,457 Speaker 1: But there's actually a safe option for going totally off 656 00:36:40,497 --> 00:36:43,177 Speaker 1: grid in Panama, Central America, and a modern home starts 657 00:36:43,177 --> 00:36:45,977 Speaker 1: at only one hundred thousand dollars. These homes are fully 658 00:36:45,977 --> 00:36:47,817 Speaker 1: set up on a self sustaining farm with all of 659 00:36:47,817 --> 00:36:51,057 Speaker 1: your needs met right on property. 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Quick Hits coming up next, 667 00:37:12,497 --> 00:37:22,977 Speaker 1: Stay with US President bidenen't test positive for COVID once again, 668 00:37:23,297 --> 00:37:27,057 Speaker 1: and doctor Fauci is wondering why you won't just adhere 669 00:37:27,177 --> 00:37:30,937 Speaker 1: to the public health measures. We have those stories on 670 00:37:31,057 --> 00:37:35,377 Speaker 1: tonight's Quick Hits. Let's get right into it, shall we. Okay, 671 00:37:35,577 --> 00:37:39,817 Speaker 1: So Biden has received two initial shots of the vaccine. 672 00:37:39,817 --> 00:37:41,457 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was fiser or more Jonah, 673 00:37:41,457 --> 00:37:44,657 Speaker 1: probably fiser, I would guess, but whatever, And so we 674 00:37:44,737 --> 00:37:46,737 Speaker 1: got two shots. Is one wasn't enough? Okay, fine, it's 675 00:37:46,737 --> 00:37:48,697 Speaker 1: a two dose vaccine, they said. Then he got a 676 00:37:48,697 --> 00:37:51,337 Speaker 1: booster because the vaccine wears off pretty quickly even after 677 00:37:51,337 --> 00:37:55,097 Speaker 1: the second dose. Then he got another booster, Then he 678 00:37:55,137 --> 00:37:57,937 Speaker 1: got covid, Then he got then he took pack slovid. 679 00:37:58,657 --> 00:38:00,977 Speaker 1: Then he got covid again, or at least tested positive 680 00:38:01,017 --> 00:38:04,257 Speaker 1: for COVID a second time from the same infection. Here 681 00:38:04,257 --> 00:38:07,937 Speaker 1: you go, Biden test positive for coronavirus again in what 682 00:38:08,137 --> 00:38:11,817 Speaker 1: is called a rebound k now worth noting for a 683 00:38:11,817 --> 00:38:15,177 Speaker 1: moment that doctor Anthony Faucci, the vile tyrant of the 684 00:38:15,217 --> 00:38:21,057 Speaker 1: COVID pandemic, also had a rebound pax loavid situation where 685 00:38:21,097 --> 00:38:24,937 Speaker 1: he tested positive for covid after initially testing positive than 686 00:38:25,017 --> 00:38:29,177 Speaker 1: negative while taking pax lob bit, a visor pill that 687 00:38:29,337 --> 00:38:34,017 Speaker 1: is an anti viral drug that has shown some good efficacy. 688 00:38:34,057 --> 00:38:36,377 Speaker 1: But there is this notion of the rebound case that 689 00:38:36,497 --> 00:38:39,137 Speaker 1: you get when you take pax loabit. So it's an 690 00:38:39,137 --> 00:38:42,137 Speaker 1: interesting situation, isn't it. But more interesting than that even 691 00:38:42,457 --> 00:38:45,017 Speaker 1: is why would anyone be fired from their job for 692 00:38:45,217 --> 00:38:48,977 Speaker 1: not getting this vaccine? Think of all the mandates that 693 00:38:49,017 --> 00:38:51,177 Speaker 1: were set up. Oh, you can't come into the restaurant, 694 00:38:51,657 --> 00:38:53,617 Speaker 1: you can't come into this place unless we see your 695 00:38:53,657 --> 00:38:58,777 Speaker 1: vaccine passport. That was appalling stupidity, It was madness all along. 696 00:38:58,817 --> 00:39:02,657 Speaker 1: The people that pushed that should be ashamed of themselves, 697 00:39:03,177 --> 00:39:06,497 Speaker 1: but they're not. They're not in fact, they're still going, 698 00:39:06,737 --> 00:39:10,537 Speaker 1: which is what's truly amazing. Faucci, who is the most 699 00:39:10,537 --> 00:39:13,857 Speaker 1: destructive public health bureaucrat and history, and really I think 700 00:39:13,937 --> 00:39:16,337 Speaker 1: arguably the worst person in America today in terms of 701 00:39:16,417 --> 00:39:19,337 Speaker 1: overall damage to his fellow human beings. It's really hard 702 00:39:19,377 --> 00:39:22,097 Speaker 1: to come up with somebody who is more destructive and 703 00:39:22,257 --> 00:39:26,057 Speaker 1: more dishonest and has this level of influence still in 704 00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:29,177 Speaker 1: public discourse that doctor Anthony Fauci does. Here he is, 705 00:39:29,217 --> 00:39:32,737 Speaker 1: for example, complaining that Americans are not adhering to what 706 00:39:32,857 --> 00:39:38,217 Speaker 1: he calls common sense health measures watch. Unfortunately, given the 707 00:39:38,257 --> 00:39:42,097 Speaker 1: fatigue that we make in this country from two and 708 00:39:42,097 --> 00:39:45,217 Speaker 1: a half years of this, everyone is tired of it. 709 00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:50,297 Speaker 1: So it's very difficult, super imposed upon an anti vax 710 00:39:50,457 --> 00:39:55,577 Speaker 1: type feeling among some, super imposed upon the political divisiveness 711 00:39:55,617 --> 00:39:58,417 Speaker 1: we have in this country, which you know, and the 712 00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:03,497 Speaker 1: social media misinformation and disinformation, is very difficult to get 713 00:40:03,537 --> 00:40:09,977 Speaker 1: people to adhere to common sense public health measures. I mean, 714 00:40:10,697 --> 00:40:13,457 Speaker 1: he still thinks that if only you would mask up more, 715 00:40:13,897 --> 00:40:18,057 Speaker 1: the virus would stop. It's tough to know if he's 716 00:40:18,177 --> 00:40:22,977 Speaker 1: just a lunatic or a liar or both, but there's 717 00:40:23,057 --> 00:40:27,577 Speaker 1: something clearly wrong with that. I mean, there's obviously a 718 00:40:27,617 --> 00:40:32,257 Speaker 1: problem with Fauci. There's a disconnect here that he cannot 719 00:40:32,257 --> 00:40:36,297 Speaker 1: observe what is so obvious all around us. Libs of 720 00:40:36,377 --> 00:40:39,457 Speaker 1: TikTok is a great social media account because it shows 721 00:40:39,497 --> 00:40:43,497 Speaker 1: you a lot of libs saying things, and it exposes 722 00:40:44,337 --> 00:40:48,337 Speaker 1: millions of people to what leftists actually believes. Some leftists 723 00:40:48,377 --> 00:40:51,217 Speaker 1: but is increasingly clear that this is they're not fringe beliefs. 724 00:40:51,257 --> 00:40:54,617 Speaker 1: There in fact growing beliefs on the left. And here 725 00:40:54,697 --> 00:40:57,937 Speaker 1: is a lib TikToker who says she doesn't want anyone 726 00:40:57,977 --> 00:41:01,457 Speaker 1: who voted for Trump ringing up her groceries, fixing her car, 727 00:41:01,617 --> 00:41:04,137 Speaker 1: or providing her any other services. Watch. Oh no, I 728 00:41:04,217 --> 00:41:07,457 Speaker 1: I'm being a bit extreme with this. But prior to 729 00:41:07,537 --> 00:41:10,817 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, I go in the supermarket and there's a 730 00:41:10,857 --> 00:41:14,457 Speaker 1: person next to me, the clerk who checked me. Now, 731 00:41:15,017 --> 00:41:17,977 Speaker 1: go to the doctor's office, talk to the receptionist the doctor, 732 00:41:17,977 --> 00:41:22,577 Speaker 1: go to the dentist, get my car fixed. I had 733 00:41:22,617 --> 00:41:30,057 Speaker 1: no issue. Now now twenty twenty two, I'm looking at 734 00:41:30,057 --> 00:41:32,857 Speaker 1: the receptionist that the doctors. I'm wondering if she's a 735 00:41:32,897 --> 00:41:37,697 Speaker 1: Trump supporter. I'm wondering if my mechanic voted for Trump. 736 00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:43,337 Speaker 1: I don't want you fixing my mother car. Right at 737 00:41:43,337 --> 00:41:47,177 Speaker 1: the supermarket, the cashier who's ringing me through? Did you 738 00:41:47,337 --> 00:41:52,177 Speaker 1: vote for Trump because I don't want you ringing my shop? 739 00:41:53,457 --> 00:41:56,217 Speaker 1: My dentist, don't be drilling me. Much of you voted 740 00:41:56,297 --> 00:42:02,217 Speaker 1: for Trump? Is anybody else like me? Unfortunately a lot 741 00:42:02,257 --> 00:42:04,697 Speaker 1: of psycho Libs are just like her. It's become part 742 00:42:04,697 --> 00:42:08,017 Speaker 1: of the culture now. They can't separate their politics from 743 00:42:08,057 --> 00:42:11,937 Speaker 1: anything in their lives. It's falling. The Democrat Party's done 744 00:42:11,937 --> 00:42:14,337 Speaker 1: to people. That's ever Tonight's hold the line. The No 745 00:42:14,457 --> 00:42:16,857 Speaker 1: Spinos with Bill Realley is next. Shield Tide