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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Good morning, Happy Friday. How's everybody feeling very good?

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Speaker 2: How are you pretty good? We got a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff we want to get into this morning. We've

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Speaker 2: got new info about the killing of that of Renee

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Speaker 2: Good in Minneapolis. We have new ice shootings in Portland.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of details, but already some

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Speaker 2: of the government's narrative is kind of falling apart. So

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Speaker 2: take a look at that one. Jade mansmade new in

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Speaker 2: my opinion vile comments. So a lot to dig into there,

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Speaker 2: but there's other important stories too. We just got jobs

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Speaker 2: numbers out, We had a War Powers resolution pass, we

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Speaker 2: have a healthcare discharge petition that went through in the House.

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Speaker 2: We've got protests in Iran. We've got Tony Dakoppol just

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Speaker 2: continuing to be the absolute worst over at CBS. And

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Speaker 2: we have two candidates in the show. So I recorded

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Speaker 2: earlier this week a great interview with Malat Kiros, who's

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Speaker 2: running against an incumbent in Denver. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: youngest and one of the most progressive districts in the country,

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Speaker 2: and she actually has a very interesting backstory. She so

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Speaker 2: lawyer who was fired for her pro Palestine stance. So

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Speaker 2: phenomenal candidate. Looking forward to sharing that interview with you.

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Speaker 2: And also we've got Claire Valdez who is running in

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Speaker 2: a seat in New York City in the COMMI Corridor

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Speaker 2: as it's called. So another very blue district, going to

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Speaker 2: be a crowded primary, but she has just secured the

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Speaker 2: endorsement of the one and only Zorn Mom Donnie, so

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Speaker 2: kind of significant there, along with Sean Fain, head of

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Speaker 2: the UAW. So excited to get to speak with her. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: have you met her before? I don't know her personally.

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Speaker 4: I haven't, but she's been an organizer with the UAW

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Speaker 4: and specifically with FAME for years, and she's a state

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Speaker 4: a state a state assembly woman backed Mom Donnie out

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Speaker 4: of the gate. But I don't, I don't personally know

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Speaker 4: or no, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Well we will all get to meet her. So and

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Speaker 2: also I told you guys, I feel like I'm giving

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Speaker 2: a little bit of Colonel Sanders this morning.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: I never know how these things are going to look

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Speaker 2: before you sit down in front of the zoom camera.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the latest out of Minneapolis

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Speaker 2: in particular. So CNN got their hands on some secure

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Speaker 2: like home security footage from the area that shows a

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Speaker 2: different angle and it proves pretty conclusively two things that

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Speaker 2: are different from what the government has been saying. Number One,

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Speaker 2: it shows the entirety of the time Renee Good is

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Speaker 2: there in her vehicle, and you can see that error

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Speaker 2: there pointing at her vehicle. She is at no point

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Speaker 2: blocking traffic. You could say she's partially obstructing the roadway,

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Speaker 2: but vehicles are able to pass by. And then the

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Speaker 2: other thing that you see quite conclusively here is that

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Speaker 2: the Ice agent, who by the way, has now been

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Speaker 2: identified actually a Rock War veteran and tenure veteran. So

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Speaker 2: he is not, you know, one of these new trainees

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Speaker 2: that just came in. In any case, he is not

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Speaker 2: struck by the vehicle. There was another angle that we

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Speaker 2: both under the impression that he had been bumped by

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Speaker 2: pretty conclusively that is not the case.

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Speaker 5: And there's also footage here of the moments before. So

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Speaker 5: there's a drop off from the car here where the

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Speaker 6: To the side of the road and lets someone out

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Speaker 3: Presumably her wife. Presumably she don't really know for sure. Yeah, well, she.

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Speaker 4: Showed the identity, but she has said she has said

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Speaker 4: people saying it's my fault because I'm the one that

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Speaker 7: Was going on like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't, That's what.

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Speaker 7: That's what she had said.

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Speaker 4: Like, so basically, an ice car like drove off the

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Speaker 4: road and it created this like pulla balloo and some traffic,

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Speaker 4: and you know, you know, see what's going on, and

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Speaker 4: maybe and I think she used more of a protester

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Speaker 4: so she drops her off and she's kind of just

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Speaker 4: and she's waving people past and then and then she

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Speaker 4: then gets shot and killed. But so she was only there,

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Speaker 4: what three minutes or something, So.

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Speaker 3: Because there was this one minutes, I think.

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Speaker 4: That's the other thing that this adds to this, because

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Speaker 4: there was this kind of claim going out that she'd

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Speaker 4: been blocking traffic for you know, all day or something,

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Speaker 4: and and there was a lot of missing kind of

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Speaker 4: this this clears that up to the eyes the whole

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Speaker 4: time people are able to go by and that and

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Speaker 4: she was only there for a few minutes.

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Speaker 8: I was just going to quickly add the one of

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Speaker 8: the main eyewitnesses who's favorable to renee Good said that

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Speaker 8: she was the lead car in the protest. Now in

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Speaker 8: that video you don't see a car protest, so it's

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Speaker 8: that's quite odd.

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Speaker 4: It feels like that whatever Ice car couldn't get out

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Speaker 4: of out of the snow, like they were the lead obstacle.

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Speaker 7: There they right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think at this point we have a

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Speaker 2: pretty clear picture of what happened to your Renee Good

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Speaker 2: and her wife dropped their kid off at school. This

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Speaker 2: is their neighborhood. They lived blocks away from where she

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Speaker 2: was shot dead. As they come through the neighborhood, Renee's

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Speaker 2: wife who was you and a Kate Ryan has said,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm more of the activists here saw this

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Speaker 2: situation unfolding with Ice, and other people in the neighborhood

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Speaker 2: said they heard the whistles and you know, people trying

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Speaker 3: She says, let's pull over.

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Speaker 2: She gets down, and we know she was out of

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Speaker 2: and then you know, then Ice comes over and Renee

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Speaker 2: the video trying to wave people through. And then Ice

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Speaker 2: comes over, one of them aggressively reaches for her car,

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Speaker 2: which I mean, me personally, I'd be pretty freaked out

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Speaker 2: by that because I've watched Ice beat a lot of

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Speaker 2: people's asses for no good reason whatsoever. You see that

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Speaker 2: there's eyewitness testimony that says she's getting contradictory information. At

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Speaker 2: one point before this happens, she says, I'm pulling out,

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Speaker 2: So she's trying to She's trying to exit, She's being

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Speaker 2: told to stop, to get out, to go. She you know,

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Speaker 2: tries to tries to move, and that's when you know

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Speaker 2: this ICE agent in the front takes three shots at

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Speaker 2: her in the face and the dead.

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Speaker 4: The ICE agent in front is not in the same

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Speaker 4: group as the two ICE agents who come over.

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Speaker 3: To like side, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 9: Is very.

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Speaker 4: Like erroneously when it comes to your training, walks in

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Speaker 4: front of her vehicle, like all, she.

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Speaker 2: Walks around the backside of her vehicle where she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: even probably see him, and then comes around the towards

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Speaker 2: the front. Now, again, one thing that is very significant

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Speaker 2: here because again I thought from that like sort of

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Speaker 2: grainiar footage that it did look like he may have

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Speaker 2: been clipped by the vehicle this and that was what

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the self defense narrative was

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Speaker 2: kind of hanging on. This shows very clearly, and the

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Speaker 2: New York Times analysis also shows very clearly he was

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Speaker 2: to the side of the car the whole time, right

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Speaker 2: when he took the first shot. Certainly when he took

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Speaker 2: the second and third shot, he's like parallel to her

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Speaker 2: with his hand with the gun pointed directly at her face,

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Speaker 2: like basically through the car window. So, you know, at

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Speaker 2: this point, I think it's we have a pretty clear

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Speaker 2: think anyone who is reasonable, even if you think that

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Speaker 2: he has, you know, the the immunity that Jade Vance

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Speaker 2: says he has quote unquote absolute immunity, which is a

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Speaker 2: whole other fan of worms that I think is utterly

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Speaker 2: if you buy there's a self defense you know possibility here, Uh,

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Speaker 2: there is just no denying that. The way the government

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Speaker 2: the very beginning. You know, we've been told there was

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Speaker 2: Nothing happens to this man. Okay, he's perfectly fine. So

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Speaker 2: that comes from the President, and then I states. And

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Speaker 2: then the other thing that unfolded yesterday. More information that

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Speaker 2: seen the video before he put out his nonsense statement,

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Speaker 2: because while a lot of this was unfolding, he was

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Speaker 3: She tried to run him over. And they're like, have

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Speaker 3: you actually seen the video?

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Speaker 2: Because his aid comes over, who's rumored to be having

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Speaker 2: his aid comes over and shows him the video, and

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Speaker 2: just basically collapses to well, you know, the way I

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Speaker 2: look at it, and this is a terrible thing.

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Speaker 3: So that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: And then the last thing that I just can't leave

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Speaker 2: off the table, because one thing is this agent who

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Speaker 2: shoots her dead.

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Speaker 3: Then he flees, he leaves the scene.

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Speaker 2: Then the other people who are there, the other men

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Speaker 2: her life. They block a physician who was there from

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Speaker 2: coming over to try to save her life. And because

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Speaker 2: their vehicles are still obstructing the roadway, when an ambulance

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Speaker 8: Why you don't step out of the way, shoot the tires, like, honestly,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he punched up, He punched out a back window

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, he's the one who positions himself in

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Speaker 8: One of the reasons that it's dangerous to shoot at

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Speaker 8: And that's why I don't know what the law enforcement

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Speaker 10: What's going?

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Speaker 11: What?

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Speaker 10: What the conversation is?

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Speaker 8: Is he trying to prevent somebody from fleeing the scene

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Speaker 4: Was he trying to someone?

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Speaker 10: I mean, was she what was she being like?

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Speaker 8: What was there something that they were trying to prevent

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Speaker 10: And this is I think one of the most.

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Speaker 3: That's the entirety of what she did.

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Speaker 2: So the narrative that she was part of a riot,

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Speaker 10: So this is you know, well, yeah, I was gonna

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Speaker 8: I think one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle

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Speaker 10: There's one person telling her to get out of the vehicle.

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Speaker 8: I legitimately think that from the perspective of like Sager

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Speaker 10: Change the story.

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Speaker 8: And there is one eyewitness who says that's what is happening.

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Speaker 2: I saws are also instructed firing at a vehicle will

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Speaker 4: So use your time to get out of the way,

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Speaker 7: It's not gonna stop the car because.

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Speaker 5: You can always shoot the tires, which I hear is

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Speaker 10: I understand that, but that's dangerous.

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Speaker 4: In that case where Kat and other protesters are in

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Speaker 8: to I mean, they are like different legal things that

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Speaker 8: come with the law enforcement. As much as I'm not

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Speaker 8: like a there's back the Blue conservative.

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Speaker 4: You can arrest someone for not following orders, but you

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Speaker 4: can't execute them.

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Speaker 10: No, you can't unless you think you're under deadly threat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyone who thinks they're under deadly threat can

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Speaker 2: right shoot in self defense.

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Speaker 7: It's not act right states.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any any different? Yeah, And I.

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Speaker 8: Mean just giving you instructions and telling you to go

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Speaker 8: do X, Y and z, then that is a legally

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Speaker 8: different scenario.

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Speaker 2: I also think it's worth reminding that these are not cops.

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Speaker 2: In fact, until this man was identified yesterday, actually funny

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Speaker 2: enough because of details that Christinoum jade Vance provided to

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Speaker 2: the press. But in any case, until he was identical,

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Speaker 2: we didn't even know what agency he was with because

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Speaker 2: they don't wear badges, they don't even identify the agency

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Speaker 2: they're with.

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Speaker 3: Their faces are all masked up.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, it's also a very different dynamic than

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Speaker 2: what for what Again, for what reason are they pulling

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Speaker 2: her out of the car to begin with?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: And you know whether or not she's getting conflicting orders,

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Speaker 2: which again very common thing to occur with you know,

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Speaker 2: with with cops of any sort, So would not be

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Speaker 2: surprising if the eyewitness testimony there is correct, and we

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Speaker 2: probably have enough audio, you know, somebody will be able

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Speaker 2: to analyze that. But as a woman, like if someone

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Speaker 2: is coming masked thug and I've seen you know, videos

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Speaker 2: of people getting their asspeat by the these people, and

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Speaker 2: this mass thug is coming up and pulling, aggressively pulling

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Speaker 2: on my door to try to pull me out of

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Speaker 2: my car, Yeah, that's going to freak me out. And

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Speaker 2: that's one of the things that really bothers me about.

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Speaker 2: You know, some of the discourse here is there is

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Speaker 2: so much expectation put on the untrained civilian who is

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Speaker 2: just just.

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Speaker 5: For kid mom is supposed to be Every mom is

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Speaker 5: supposed to be John Wick. Now, like you have a

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Speaker 5: three second call duty tactical decision.

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Speaker 6: Now if you are a mom at.

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Speaker 2: Drop off, right, and so she's supposed to a perfectly

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Speaker 2: or else, her execution is justified and there's no like

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Speaker 2: she's not trained for this. I Meanwhile, these are people

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Speaker 2: who we pay our tax dollars to who have spent

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Speaker 2: you know, this man ten years in ice has you know,

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Speaker 2: supposedly gone through whatever training he needs to go through,

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Speaker 2: and there's no expectations of him. He's perfectly It's perfectly

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Speaker 2: fine for him to get freaked out by, you know,

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Speaker 2: a suburban thirty seven year old mom who just dropped

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Speaker 2: her kid off and is in her you know, vehicle

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Speaker 2: trying to trying to get home. Like, it's fine for

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Speaker 2: him to get freaked out and shoot her in the face.

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Speaker 2: But it's not okay that she got freaked out by

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Speaker 2: this incredibly scary situation that she's never been in before

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Speaker 2: and try to leave.

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Speaker 4: Also want to real quickly share at Tucker carlson observation

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Speaker 4: that I actually thought was useful from his newsletter. He says,

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Speaker 4: how comes so few conservatives are viewing this story through

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Speaker 4: a human lens? And why when something similar like the

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Speaker 4: killing Charlie Kirk happens on the other side, did many

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Speaker 4: on the left celebrate because they thought his political positions

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Speaker 4: were wrong. We have a guess violence around the world

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Speaker 4: is desensitizing Americans to violence at home. I think that's

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Speaker 4: worth sitting with. Like, watching unchecked violence unfold every day

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Speaker 4: can only erode your your psyche and your and your

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Speaker 4: moral core.

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Speaker 5: This whole story could have been like from the West Bank, right,

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Speaker 5: ambulance is blocked, no one was to come help shot

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Speaker 5: like you know, this.

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Speaker 2: Could have been the organization before and after the fact,

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Speaker 2: and the.

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Speaker 4: Immediate statement from the government lying about it and defending

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Speaker 4: it and calling them heroes.

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Speaker 3: I think she's a domestic terrorist, by the way.

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Speaker 7: The whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have to move on, Christal, Do you

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Speaker 5: have one last thing? I want to give them a les?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can we just play JD Vance the I got it

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Speaker 2: right here? Yeah, go ahead because I think this is

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Speaker 2: a really I think this is really.

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Speaker 7: Hurt him too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he might have like flown a little too close

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Speaker 5: to the sun requested.

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Speaker 12: So, the head of Minnesota's investigations agency says that the

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Speaker 12: US Attorney's off off the state investigations agencies access to

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Speaker 12: the investigation. What is the precedent for that and why

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Speaker 12: shouldn't the Minnesota missiles on the ground have accesses work

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Speaker 12: on this investigation?

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Speaker 13: First of all, I wish the state officials in Minnesota

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Speaker 13: would investigate why you have so many people who are

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Speaker 13: using their vehicles and other means to actually interfere with

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Speaker 13: the legitimatelaw enforcement operation the president here is very simple.

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Speaker 13: You have a federal law enforcement official engaging in federal

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Speaker 13: law enforcement action. That's a federal issue. That guy's protected

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Speaker 13: by absolute immunity. He was doing his job. The idea

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Speaker 13: that Tim Walls and a bunch of radicals in Minneapolis

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Speaker 13: are going to go after and make this guy's life

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Speaker 13: miserable because he was doing the job that he was

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Speaker 13: asked to do is preposterous.

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Speaker 2: They think absolute immunity and noteworthy there. You know, originally

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Speaker 2: it had been announced this would be a joint investigation

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Speaker 2: between local officials and the FBI. Now local officials have

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Speaker 2: been blocked out and the FBI has taken over. And

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Speaker 2: you can guess how much confidence that literally anyone has

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Speaker 2: in this FBI handling this in a straightforward and unbiased manner,

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Speaker 2: like it's just it's a cover up. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: just no other way to interpret the decision for them

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Speaker 2: to block out the local officials.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if I were the local officials, I'd collect

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Speaker 4: as much evidence as I can, but I would wait

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Speaker 4: until Trump is out of office to file my own

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Speaker 4: charges because what they can do is they can remove

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Speaker 4: it from a state level to a federal level and

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Speaker 4: then pardon the guy and then say, well, you can't

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Speaker 4: prosecute him at state level either, because it's double jeopardy.

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Speaker 4: But if they wait until he's out, even if he

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Speaker 4: has a federal pardon, they can still prosecute him at

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Speaker 4: state level.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's very important to have an

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Speaker 8: investigation into this that everybody feels comfortable with and can trust.

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Speaker 8: And it's not bad to continue to get more and

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Speaker 8: more video and audio from the scenes. I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: even things that she may have been saying to the

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Speaker 8: police would be or to the police to ice. Maybe

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Speaker 8: it changed to these things that I've gotten burned a

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Speaker 8: million times by seeing videos quickly and jumping into conclusions.

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Speaker 8: So I just think that's partially why it's good to

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Speaker 8: have a full investigation, that people feel confident, and we're

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Speaker 8: already not off to a great start when it comes

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Speaker 8: to that.

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Speaker 6: So uh, we'll leave it there.

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Speaker 5: We also wanted to note that there has been another

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Speaker 5: shooting in Portland that will be still getting more information about.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to dwell.

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Speaker 7: Too muche vehicle again, but.

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Speaker 5: It was another vehicle related incident that we're still picking

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Speaker 5: up some pieces of Ryan. I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: want to do like a TLDR real quick thing on it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, real quickly.

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Speaker 4: The first their first statement, so they pulled over a

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Speaker 4: husband and wife and then some chaos ensued. Without video,

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Speaker 4: we can't take the fed's word for anything. They initially

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Speaker 4: said an officer fired one defensive shot, but even when

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Speaker 4: they said that, we knew two people had been wounded,

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Speaker 4: so that was a little bit suspicious. Eyewitnessed later told

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Speaker 4: Oregon Press that roughly five shots were fired. A man

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Speaker 4: was shot twice in his arm, a woman was shot

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Speaker 4: in her chest. Local reports are that there that they

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Speaker 4: are husband and wife. They got away from the FEDS

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Speaker 4: and then called nine to one one a several month

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Speaker 4: miles away went to the hospital. DHS is saying that

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Speaker 4: they are illegally here from Venezuela and members of Trende Aragua. Again,

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Speaker 4: we're going to need some well like how do they

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Speaker 4: know that? What are their names? But again they fired

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Speaker 4: at a moving vehicle, which is against against training. And

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Speaker 4: so now you're seeing protests, you know, uh breaking out

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Speaker 4: around the country. Interesting and coincidental. It's Minneapolis and Portland

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Speaker 4: are two of the places that the right has wanted

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Speaker 4: revenge against for you know, the most for twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: and so's I guess not surprising that these are the

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Speaker 4: places we're seeing the biggest kind of violent crackdown.

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Speaker 2: I would also say, Ryan that it's also not a

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Speaker 2: surprise that after the Vice President of the United States

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Speaker 2: comes out and justifies the killing of saying that the

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Speaker 2: officer has absolute immunity, that others in the field hear

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Speaker 2: that and take to heart what has already been abundantly

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Speaker 2: clear that they don't laws, rules, nothing applies to them.

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Speaker 2: They are it's it's not just the training, it's an

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Speaker 2: intentional culture like this is meant to be happening because

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Speaker 2: they want this level of terror. I mean that is

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Speaker 2: that is the goal of these operations, a level of terror.

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Speaker 4: There's reporting that they're now looking at invoking the Insurrection

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Speaker 4: Act in response to the protests that are emerging in

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Speaker 4: response to the killings.

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Speaker 5: Which is exactly what Stephen Miller has been excited for

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Speaker 5: this entire time.

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Speaker 10: All Right, so well, let me just add one final point.

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Speaker 10: The big picture.

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Speaker 8: The big picture from my perspective is that you also

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Speaker 8: have Minneapolis sanctuary city. I think Portland's also a sanctuary city,

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Speaker 8: which statistically there are at least dozens of actual criminal

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Speaker 8: migrants in those cities. And so that is the other

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think it is especially even just like

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Speaker 8: on the politics of it.

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Speaker 10: That is I think another important thing.

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Speaker 4: Right, But the federal government is acting like they've never

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Speaker 4: heard of how to do law enforcement before. Like we

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Speaker 4: have had criminals for thousands of years, We have evolved

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Speaker 4: ways of enforcing laws against criminal behavior, people wildly shooting

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Speaker 4: into vehicles like no other is possible to do law

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Speaker 4: enforcement without shooting into vehicles?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, completely agree. I completely agree with that. I think, like,

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Speaker 8: even if you are even if you're somebody who is

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Speaker 8: not supportive of anything like any deportations or whatever, most

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Speaker 8: people don't want criminal non citizens in the neighborhood. And

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Speaker 8: I think part of the problem is that that when

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Speaker 8: when you're tracking ICE every single place that it goes,

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Speaker 8: that makes the legitimate effort which most people support, like

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Speaker 8: ninety percent of the country probably supports of like getting

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Speaker 8: at least ninety percent getting actual criminals out. And I'm

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Speaker 8: not saying that ICE isn't making that job much more

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Speaker 8: difficult itself, but that is also a thing that exists

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Speaker 8: as a problem.

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Speaker 10: That does to be solved.

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Speaker 2: If that is in fact their goal, which is not

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Speaker 2: what Stephen Miller has stated his goal is when he

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Speaker 2: berated ICE agents and told them that they needed to

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Speaker 2: stop doing criminal investigations and start harassing day laborers at

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Speaker 2: home Depot and seven eleven. But if that is in

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Speaker 2: fact their goal, they are failing miserably at it. Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama was much more effective at deporting criminals, and you know,

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Speaker 2: earned his reputation as the border in Chief, which is

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Speaker 2: not something that I support. But if you look at

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Speaker 2: the increase and who is being held in immigration detention centers.

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Speaker 2: All of that increase comes from non criminals, so they're there.

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Speaker 2: You know, if that's the goal of getting the criminal

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Speaker 2: illegals out, they are going about it in the worst

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Speaker 2: possible and least effective way and the largest budget anyone

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Speaker 2: has ever had.

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Speaker 10: And I just wanted I met non We got it.

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Speaker 5: We got to move on, guys, unless unless Randie got

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Speaker 5: last one last thought.

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Speaker 7: Before the last point, like the yes, I think Pauling

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Speaker 7: is clear.

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Speaker 4: They do want criminal illegal people here illegally who are criminals.

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Speaker 4: They want them to port it like that's the polling.

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Speaker 4: And so then Steven Miller wants to use that and say, well,

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Speaker 4: then you should allow us to just go to home

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Speaker 4: depot and run rough shot and like do everything that

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Speaker 4: we're doing. It's like no, no, no, that's not like

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Speaker 4: the public does not support that. So now you're going

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Speaker 4: up against the public. Is that the that's the point there?

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Speaker 5: So Ryan mentioned earlier seeing violence around the world and

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Speaker 5: how it reflects back home. Congress is deciding to actually

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Speaker 5: have a say a little bit now and in that

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Speaker 5: violence that we enact around the world, Emily, can you

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Speaker 5: talk to us about this war Powers resolution that was

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Speaker 5: just voted on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is huge news and this is a place

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Speaker 8: that will I think I'll agree. It's I'm reading from

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Speaker 8: the ABC News report here.

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Speaker 6: Quote.

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Speaker 8: In a rare rebut to the Trump administration, the Senate

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Speaker 8: on Thursday advanced a war powers resolution that would block

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Speaker 8: the president's use of the US armed forces to engage

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Speaker 8: in hostilities within or against Venezuela unless authorized by Congress.

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Speaker 8: A small group of Senate Republicans joined with all Democrats

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Speaker 8: to narrowly advance the resolution by a vote of fifty

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Speaker 8: two to forty seven.

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Speaker 10: It needed fifty one votes to move forward.

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Speaker 8: The Republicans who broke with Trump were Rand Paul, Lisa Murkowski,

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Speaker 8: Todd Young, Susan Collins, and Josh Hawley. So Tim Kain,

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Speaker 8: who I literally just saw on my screen on CNN

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Speaker 8: over on the TV quote, pushed for the resolution to

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Speaker 8: receive a vote immediately after Trump announced US forces carried

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Speaker 8: out that attack in Venezuela. I just want to pull

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Speaker 8: up Josh Hawley's tweet here. I'm just going to read

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Speaker 8: from it, he said, in response to what wasn't directly

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Speaker 8: in response to Trump. I mean, Trump predictably went off

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Speaker 8: on these guys. Josh Holly said, with regard to Venezuela,

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Speaker 8: my read of the constitution, and he is obviously who

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Speaker 8: was the attorney general of the state of Missouri. He says,

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Speaker 8: my read of the Constitution is that if the president

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Speaker 8: feels the need to put boots on the ground there

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Speaker 8: in the future, Congress would need to vote on it.

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Speaker 8: That's why I voted yes on this morning's Senate resolution.

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Speaker 8: Now he's taking a lot of flak for that, obviously,

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Speaker 8: because most of the people who voted against the president

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Speaker 8: were more moderates, not like people from the Mago wing

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Speaker 8: and brand Paul obviously as a libertarian. So Holly, I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, there's an argument that's much more broad even

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Speaker 8: than what Holly is advancing, which is narrowly about boots

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Speaker 8: on the ground. But that's that said, Ryan, you've covered

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Speaker 8: Congress for years. This is if this Venezuela up is

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Speaker 8: what because people are so angry about Trump, if that's

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Speaker 8: what gets a serious momentum towards narrowing our insane war powers,

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Speaker 8: that's incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm skeptical that it will in the end, but

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Speaker 4: it is It is quite something that it that it

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Speaker 4: that it passed so far.

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Speaker 7: The back the context here.

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Speaker 4: Of quickly feeding the cat while you start, and see

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Speaker 4: you may have mentioned this. They had brought this war

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Speaker 4: Powers resolution to the floor where they were about to

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Speaker 4: bring and the way that the White House defeated it

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Speaker 4: was by flat out lying and saying, we are not

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Speaker 4: intending to attack Venezuela, and in fact, we don't believe

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Speaker 4: that we have a legal argument to do so. If

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Speaker 4: we did so, you don't need to put constraints around us.

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Speaker 4: They had already built their you know, Caracas Mini Caracas

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Speaker 4: in Kentucky and were running drills on how to do

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Speaker 4: the exact thing that they were telling Congress they had

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Speaker 4: no intention of doing and no legal authority to do so.

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Speaker 4: I think the combination of everything plus plus the lying

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Speaker 4: was a bit too much for Congress.

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Speaker 6: And here's JD. Fans responding about the War.

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Speaker 13: Powers technicality that any disagreement of policy, if you look

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Speaker 13: at the people who actually voted, every single one of

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Speaker 13: them have supported the administration's plan. Second of all, as

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Speaker 13: the President I believe himself, has already said, every president,

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Speaker 13: Democrat or Republican believes the War Powers Act is fundamentally

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Speaker 13: a fake and unconstitutional law. It's not going to change

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Speaker 13: anything about how we conduct foreign policy over the next

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Speaker 13: couple of weeks, the next couple of months, and that

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Speaker 13: that'll continue to be how we.

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Speaker 6: So sorry to burst your bubble, Emily, but it's fake.

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Speaker 10: Oh shoot, which he voted.

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Speaker 4: For the war He voted for a Nigeria war powers resolution,

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Speaker 4: and he voted for I don't remember the other one

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Speaker 4: was at Syria.

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Speaker 7: Maybe he was Yemen.

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Speaker 4: He voted for two war powers resolutions when he was

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Speaker 4: in the United States Senate.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, he was good on war.

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Speaker 4: Powers So why was he voting for fake war powers resolutions?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? It sucks. I mean that sucks.

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Speaker 7: It's boring to point out that JD.

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Speaker 4: Vance isn't consistent day to day or week to week

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Speaker 4: or year to year, but worth worth throwing one more

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Speaker 4: on the on the Vance pile there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the spirit of the Constitution, Article one

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Speaker 8: versus Article two is like pretty clear when it comes

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Speaker 8: to war powers.

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Speaker 10: Now, legally you can be JD.

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Speaker 8: Vance and you could be a war power scholar and

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Speaker 8: work at West Point whatever, and you can make these

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Speaker 8: arguments about, you know, just what the government can and

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Speaker 8: can't do, especially post Vietnam Post your Rock, and it's

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Speaker 8: it's just gotten extremely muddy. But those arguments, even if

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Speaker 8: you can legally make them, they're wildly out of the

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Speaker 8: spirit of the Constitution. And a lot of it comes

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Speaker 8: from like just being able to do war in different

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Speaker 8: ways than we could when the Constitution was written. That

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Speaker 8: it's allowed bad actors to just smudge things over the

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Speaker 8: course of decades. And I think again, if you go,

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Speaker 8: if you sit down and read article one an article

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Speaker 8: two and then look at what's happening, you realize it's there.

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Speaker 10: These things do not comport.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, trouble.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say. The other thing is

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Speaker 2: that they already, you know, should have gone to Congress

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Speaker 2: for what they've already done, Like they don't care about

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Speaker 2: following our little rules and laws and constitutions. And in fact, Trump,

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Speaker 2: in that interview with The New or Times, was asked, like,

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Speaker 2: what are the constraints on you? What could hold you back?

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Speaker 2: And he said the only constraint is me and my

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Speaker 2: head and my morality.

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Speaker 3: So, like, I mean he literally said that, Like that

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Speaker 3: is a direct quote.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I'm sure he didn't get the words

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Speaker 2: exactly right, but I'm trying to quote him as precisely

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Speaker 2: as I could. That is, by definition, like the mindset

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Speaker 2: of a king, you know, I mean, you know, the

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Speaker 2: no king's protest, like very vindicated here because in his view,

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Speaker 2: there is nothing to stop him, No Congress, no checks

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Speaker 2: and balances, certainly, no international law, no war powers, resolution,

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Speaker 2: no nothing, nothing to stop him. But what his own

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Speaker 2: mind tells him is the line that he should draw.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think any of us probably

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Speaker 2: feel very comfortable with where Donald Trump is going to

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Speaker 2: draw the line on these things.

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Speaker 8: Christal phrase was almost it was almost verbatim. So this

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Speaker 8: is the New York Times asking him what limits exist

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Speaker 8: on his powers. Trump says, quote one thing, my own morality,

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Speaker 8: my mind. It's the only thing that can stop me.

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Speaker 8: And you will remember him postings fine this quote attributed

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Speaker 8: to Napoleon over the summer, where he said he who

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Speaker 8: saves his country violates no law. This is a recurrent

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Speaker 8: theme obviously the second Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: This is again tired and cliche to say, But imagine

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Speaker 2: of Barack Obama. Oh imagine if Barack Obama had said

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Speaker 2: anything approaching this like, we would still be hearing about

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Speaker 2: it to this day, right, I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: fundamentally it's un American, it's authoritary. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: even have to tell you what it is. It's so

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Speaker 2: obvious it's on its face. So I appreciate that you

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Speaker 2: have some Republicans who join in and voting for this

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Speaker 2: War Powers resolution. I don't want to you know, it's

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Speaker 2: very sort of like dark and nihilistics. Well it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 2: but unfortunately I don't think that it does. I mean,

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Speaker 2: until we have genuine accountability for some of the people

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Speaker 2: who have engaged in unlike awful, unconstitutional and criminal acts

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Speaker 2: as part of this administration, there are going to be

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Speaker 2: effectively very little check.

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Speaker 3: The only check is actually the public.

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Speaker 2: Like we have seen at times when there's been huge

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Speaker 2: public pushback, there has been a bit of raining in

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Speaker 2: of Trump, you know, pulling back, but there's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of instances of that. And you know, frankly, as

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Speaker 2: he gets older and more unhinged and attached from reality,

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Speaker 2: like he's less able to even discern what the public Once,

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Speaker 2: which also came out in recent comments when he was

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Speaker 2: talking to the GOP conference, and he was like, you

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Speaker 2: have to explain to me what's going on in the

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Speaker 2: mind of the public because our policies are perfect, but

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Speaker 2: they don't like it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he'd literally again another thing he actually said.

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Speaker 6: He said that. Well.

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Speaker 5: On that note, we have a guest in the lobby

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Speaker 5: that I'd like to let in here.

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Speaker 6: Let's see if she is here.

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Speaker 5: We have Hello, we have New York assembly Woman Claire Valdez.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Breaking Points. How are you doing.

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Speaker 14: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely now, Claire, we know you are now running for

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Speaker 5: the vacated seat of Nadia of Alaskas in Brooklyn and Queens.

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Speaker 6: Tell us a little bit more about why you're running.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely so. I simply remember representing parts Ofifican Queens

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Speaker 14: that are well within New York seven. But before that,

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Speaker 14: I was a member of UAW Local twenty one to ten.

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Speaker 14: I come out of the labor movement at a moment

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Speaker 14: when support for unions in this country has never been higher.

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Speaker 14: We need a federal government that will actually support new organizing,

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Speaker 14: that will take on corporate greed and we'll fight for

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Speaker 14: real social democracy. And New York seven is a deeply

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Speaker 14: working class district, many many renters, many tenants, artists, families, immigrants,

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Speaker 14: and they deserve a representative who's going to go to

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Speaker 14: DC to fight for them.

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Speaker 4: Right, So today you rolled out endorsements from mayor Mom

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Speaker 4: Donnie and also from Sean Fain, the head of the

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Speaker 4: head of the UAW was elected overthrow the old old

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Speaker 4: brass with your help. Can you talk a little bit

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Speaker 4: about how you you went from Texas to becoming part

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Speaker 4: of the UAW, Like, what.

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Speaker 7: Was that journey?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So, like many Americans, I worked, you know, low

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Speaker 14: wage customer service jobs in many different places. I've been

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Speaker 14: an a contractor, have worked unpaid overtime nights, weekends, the

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Speaker 14: familiar story of a lot of working class people.

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Speaker 4: Which changed. I think people would probably love to know

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Speaker 4: which different one.

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Speaker 14: I'd love to know. I worked at Trader Joe's. I

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Speaker 14: worked at Pizza and Taco Bell, really really grinding, bagging groceries,

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Speaker 14: making food, working with customers. But you know, and you

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Speaker 14: got to pay their rent, and you got to do

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Speaker 14: what you have to do to make sure that you're

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Speaker 14: making rent. So I worked those jobs. I moved to

883
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 14: New York City to work a small museum in Long

884
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 14: Island City called Sculpture Center, and after working there for

885
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 14: a few years, went to work at Plumb University, which

886
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 14: was organized under the Clerical Workers organized under UAW Local

887
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 14: twenty one to ten a couple of decades ago. So

888
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 14: it's an older union, five hundred workers, mostly women, people

889
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 14: of color, working class folks, doing things from administration to

890
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 14: call center work, cashiers in the cafeteria. And that was

891
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 14: my first introduction to organized labor. You know, as a worker,

892
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 14: I spent so much of my time not knowing that

893
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 14: I had the power to actually fight back against the

894
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 14: boss and demand the wages and dignity that I deserved.

895
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 14: But the union introduced me to that collective power.

896
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: And you've joined the bargaining committee, is that right? Like, well,

897
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: how did you become kind of more political inside the union?

898
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 9: Yeah?

899
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 14: I remember my very first day on the job being

900
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 14: told by my boss that it was time for me

901
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 14: to take a lunch break and having no idea what

902
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 14: to do or where to go. And that was a gift,

903
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 14: you know, and that time off really simple thing that

904
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 14: every worker deserves, the spot for by my union siblings.

905
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 14: And so it took a couple of years for me

906
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 14: to get more involved in the meantime, I had joined

907
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 14: in New York City DSA, and when I joined the

908
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 14: bargaining committee. It was because one of my coworkers asked

909
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 14: me to greer. Classic organizing tradition, you're asked to do

910
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 14: a thing you're not sure you can do it, you

911
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 14: have the support of your coworkers and your colleagues, and

912
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 14: you make that change.

913
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Claire, I wanted to get your reaction to some significant

914
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: news with regard to Mayor Mom Donnie's agenda, especially since

915
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: you just earned his endorsement. So this report of The

916
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: New York Times has big news from Governor Kathy Hockel

917
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: on childcare. She's going to announce today she's committing to

918
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: fully fund the first two years of zorn Mam Donnie's

919
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: implementation of free preschool for two year olds. Some of

920
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: the details are below. She says, Governor Hocal State of

921
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: the State Investments will commit to delivering affordable childcare for

922
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: nearly one hundred thousand more kids, make pre K truly

923
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: universal statewide, partner with New York City to launch a

924
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: new Mayor's signature two care program, finally realize the promise

925
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: of universal three K across access in New York City,

926
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: support other counties, and building out new childcare pilots. Expand

927
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: childcare subsidies to tens of thousand of additional families. And

928
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, I'd love for your reflection

929
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: on the significance of this win and what it means about,

930
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 2: you know, how to do politics. Because when Zoron first

931
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: started running, and even after you know, he won, wins

932
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: the primary Newmaver he wins the general election, I heard

933
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: a lot of yeah, but he's not going to be

934
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: able to get any of this done. This is all

935
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: pie in the sky. And Kathy Hochel was opposed to,

936
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: you know, significant parts of the agenda, and now she

937
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: is playing ball and helping him deliver on you know,

938
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: one of the more complicated and transformative parts of what

939
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: he of the platform he ran on.

940
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 14: No, it's it's momentously. It's an incredible victory. It's really

941
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 14: really exciting. It's going to transform the lives of so

942
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 14: many of our families in New York City and the

943
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 14: ability just to be able to stay and grow a

944
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 14: family here and one of the most expensive cities in

945
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 14: the country. And this victory comes from organizing. Zoron ran

946
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 14: a disciplined and thoughtful campaign. He talked to so many

947
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 14: millions of New Yorkers. And by advancing a really economic

948
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 14: populist agenda that actually touches working class people's lives, he's

949
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 14: able to stitch together this really beautiful coalition. And so

950
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 14: this victory is because of organizing, and it's something that

951
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 14: Zoron's campaign showed us that we can change the conversation

952
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 14: around what working people deserve and advance apot this agenda

953
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 14: that serves working people and makes our lives affordable. So

954
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 14: I'm it's so thrilled about the announcement. There's more work

955
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 14: to be done to when the rest of Zoron's agenda,

956
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 14: and that's the energy I want to take into Congress

957
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 14: as well.

958
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 8: What if you made of the Coo Weaver controversy this week,

959
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 8: and where do you stand on the question of like

960
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 8: rent control and how private property should be viewed when

961
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 8: you're also trying to bring down the cost of rent.

962
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 8: I'll also tack onto that just the sort of racialized

963
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 8: language that has been really part of that controversy.

964
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 10: Do you think that was a distraction?

965
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 8: Do you think that's a good way to think about

966
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 8: in New York City? What have you as a as

967
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 8: a New Yorker? What have you made of the conversation

968
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 8: this week.

969
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 14: Cu Waiver is an incredible tenant organizer, and I am

970
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 14: incredibly proud that she is going to be part of

971
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 14: this administration fighting for tenants. She is a long track

972
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 14: record of fighting against you know, bad landlords, corporate landlords,

973
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 14: and making sure that people can stay in their homes.

974
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 14: So I'm i'm I'm very excited to fight alongside her

975
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 14: for those goals. Rint control and rent stabilization are at

976
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 14: the backbone of housing security in New York City, and

977
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 14: we want to grow those protections and make sure that

978
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 14: people can stay in their homes long term and and

979
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 14: build lives in the communities that they love.

980
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Claire, how as a local official, you know, we've been

981
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: covering this morning the killing of Rene Good in Minneapolis,

982
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: shooting of two more individuals. We don't have a lot

983
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: of details out of Portland, Oregon. You know, the obviously

984
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: New York City has been a major target for ice

985
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: operations as as well. How do you think local officials

986
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: should respond? And you know, if you're to make it

987
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: to Congress, which I think they've got a pretty good

988
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: chance at at doing, you know, what should sort of

989
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: action should be taken at the federal level to garner

990
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: accountability and rein in the lawless behavior that we've all witnessed.

991
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 9: Yeah.

992
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 14: Absolutely, and it's it's a tragedy what happened to to

993
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 14: this this young mother who I think was doing something

994
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 14: that a lot of us have done in the past.

995
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 14: You know, months of this administration standing by and witnessing

996
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 14: her neighbors be kidnapped and displaced and disappeared from their

997
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 14: homes and their communities. It's a tragedy, and my heart

998
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 14: goes out to her family and her community. Yesterday, I

999
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 14: was at a press conference with their state electeds to

1000
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 14: talk about state legislation that we've been fighting for for

1001
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 14: since the Trump administration to office earlier last year, including

1002
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 14: protection spanning protections, round stance, trade cities, Century City protections

1003
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 14: across New York State, making sure that ICE agents aren't

1004
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 14: masked in New York State. But fundamentally, you know, we

1005
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 14: run into the problem that this is so much of

1006
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 14: this as federal jurisdiction, and so at the federal level,

1007
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 14: the first step would be to abolish ICE. This is

1008
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 14: an agency now that has been funded many many million

1009
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 14: billions of dollars, and that money should be going to

1010
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 14: make our lives whole, to making sure that we have

1011
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 14: healthcare and housing, that we have the protections that working

1012
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 14: people need to live dignified lives, not to militarize an

1013
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 14: agency that is now murdering citizens on US streets in

1014
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 14: broad daylight and on camera, and of course the you know,

1015
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 14: the ongoing tragedy of their kidnapping our neighbors, taking them

1016
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 14: to detention centers, sending them to prisons and countries that

1017
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 14: they've never even lived in. It it's an atrocious agency

1018
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 14: and it is long outlived. It's per this and it

1019
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 14: has to be abolished.

1020
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: So Antonio Renoso is the Brooklyn Borough President, as you know,

1021
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: is and has you know, kind of a WFP Democrat

1022
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 4: and progressive in general, is also running for the seat.

1023
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 4: Where would you say the biggest daylight is between you

1024
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: and Renoso.

1025
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, we're going to be cashing this out during the

1026
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 14: Democratic primary. I think this is a really good opportunity

1027
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 14: for us to shape the direction of the Democratic Party.

1028
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 14: This race is not going to be about It's a

1029
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 14: deep blue district. It's one of the most left districts

1030
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 14: in the country, if not the most left district in

1031
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 14: the country. Voted for Zara Mumdai by forty points. And

1032
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 14: so this race isn't going to be about whether we're

1033
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 14: flipping a seat, you know, This isn't where the majority

1034
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 14: is going to be thought for. This is where we're

1035
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 14: going to decide what that majority is going to fight for.

1036
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 14: I come into this race as a labor organizer with

1037
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 14: the experience and so defending my colleagues and co workers

1038
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 14: and in arbitrations and fighting against the boss and demanding

1039
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 14: a seat at the table. That's the experience I bring

1040
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 14: along with my experience and the movement that just helped

1041
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 14: the elects or Onlambani to be to be a Democratic

1042
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 14: Socialist mayor of New York City. And so I'm looking

1043
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 14: forward to the campaign and talking to as many voters

1044
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 14: as possible. We've got a really exciting platform that we're

1045
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 14: putting together around Unions for All, health Care for All,

1046
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 14: and Medicare fall and Rinoso.

1047
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem to have been terribly outspoken when it

1048
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 4: comes to Gaza. Is that a place where you think

1049
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 4: there's daylight between the two of you, Well say, I'm really.

1050
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 14: I'm very proud of my record on standing up against

1051
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 14: the genocide in Gaza. I was one of the first

1052
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 14: among the first electeds in New York City to call

1053
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 14: for a cease fire. You know, in the early days,

1054
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 14: we were marching, phone banking, rallying, doing jail support and

1055
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 14: naming it as a genocide. And so I have a

1056
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 14: consistent record on this issue and it's one that I

1057
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 14: hope to bring to voters.

1058
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Claire, where do you stand on whether if Democrats take

1059
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: control of the House, whether Hakim Jeffries should be would

1060
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: have your vote as speaker?

1061
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm one campaign at a time. So what I'm

1062
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 14: really hoping for is that in the coming year we

1063
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 14: are actually able to take back the House and be

1064
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 14: in a position to even elect the speaker. What I

1065
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 14: will say is that, you know, we just had this

1066
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 14: momentous election in New York City. We elected Zoron Mom

1067
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 14: dannie By, whose campaign centered working class people and an

1068
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 14: economic populist agenda, and he confounded expectations and really shook

1069
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 14: the Democratic Party establishment. And I think that's the energy

1070
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 14: that people are going to be hungry for in twenty

1071
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 14: twenty six, and hopefully we will take back the House

1072
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 14: and be in a position to have more conversations about

1073
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 14: who your shop shape.

1074
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 5: What are some of your top priorities now, I you know,

1075
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: I used to live in Crown Heights, I'm currently in

1076
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: LA But what are some of your current priorities to

1077
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: improve Brooklyn and Queens. Zorn was really articulate about having

1078
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 5: some really tangible, you know, things that you could probably

1079
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 5: just list off in your sleep now, you know, fast

1080
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: and free bosses and stuff like that. What do you

1081
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: what do you want to do to impact specifically Brooklyn

1082
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 5: and Queens.

1083
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely so. We talked a little bit about about

1084
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 14: housing earlier, but seventy seven percent of this district are renters.

1085
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 14: Overwhelming percentage of people pay there have to pay for

1086
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 14: their housing every single month. A lot of them are

1087
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 14: nightshift tenants, so they live in public housing. Nightscha has

1088
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 14: been underfunded and gutted for generations now, so fully funding NIGHTSCHITCH,

1089
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 14: make sure those residents have the dignified and beautiful homes

1090
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 14: they deserve. Building more public housing so you've ben more

1091
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 14: in New York City residents enjoy that. That that that

1092
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 14: benefit and Alexandrio Coustier Cortez carries a piece of legislation

1093
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 14: called the Homes Ach around social Housing, So building social

1094
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 14: housing that's that's decommodified, that's permanently affordable, and that as

1095
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 14: many people as possible can live in. That's one of

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Speaker 14: the biggest issues we're gonna be fighting for. But of

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Speaker 14: course Medicare for all is top of mind for so

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Speaker 14: many of my neighbors. As long as private health insurance

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Speaker 14: is able to dictate whether or not you're able to

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Speaker 14: live along and healthy life, there won't be real justice

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Speaker 14: in our in any of our communities. And I think

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Speaker 14: we all have a story about a medical emergency that

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Speaker 14: could have meant us losing our homes. So making sure

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Speaker 14: that everyone has health care, everyone has housing, and everyone

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Speaker 14: has the opportunity to join a union. My union completely

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Speaker 14: changed my life. So passing the Proact, I'm talking about

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Speaker 14: a federal jobs guarantee. We have a lot of labor

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Speaker 14: legislation that we're working on and thinking about to make

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Speaker 14: sure that everyone has I've dignified life, but a seat

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Speaker 14: at the table too. So that because I really believe

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Speaker 14: that so much power rests in working people, and that's

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Speaker 14: the power that we have to fork grab these bites.

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Speaker 2: Least questions just a quick yes or no. Are you

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Speaker 2: do you support Center? Sanders pause on data center construction,

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Speaker 2: as I think AI is going to be increasingly, you know,

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Speaker 2: front and center, especially in terms of labor issues.

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Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely, I think this technology is moving at breakneck speed,

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Speaker 14: and I think a pause will help us figure out

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Speaker 14: how to respond to the way that's being developed and

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Speaker 14: find ways for the power that AI represents to be

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Speaker 14: with workers and not with tech oligarchs.

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Speaker 2: All right, Claire, We'll tell people where they can follow you,

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Speaker 2: where they can support you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely so, go to my website, clairebel dansfcongress dot com.

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Speaker 14: We're rolling out that campaign now. There will be lots

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Speaker 14: of opportunities to volunteer, of course, donations always welcome to

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Speaker 14: and follow me at Players for New York.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Thank you so much for your time. It's wonderful

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Speaker 2: to meet you, and we wish you the best of luck.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the endorsements you're getting I think are

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Speaker 2: a huge deal for your campaigns.

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Speaker 14: We're excited to see that. Thank you so much, mon

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Speaker 14: to have the endorsements and honor to speak with you

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Speaker 14: all today. We'll be in touch.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 14: Having go on.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for joining us, Claire, Thank.

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Speaker 5: Kyle, Bye bye all right, where do we go next, folks.

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Speaker 2: Let's touch on the jobs numbers right quick, because we

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Speaker 2: now have you know, a full year picture here. So

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Speaker 2: jobs added this is from December was fifty thousand, which

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Speaker 2: is less than expectations, pretty low number overall, it means

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Speaker 2: that for the entirety of the year of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: it was the worst job creation that we've seen since

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Speaker 2: the COVID since twenty twenty so the COVID recession. We

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Speaker 2: also are probably going to get a Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 2: on tariffs today, So magnificant day in terms of economics.

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Speaker 2: And I saw one reporter I think it was, I

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Speaker 2: can't remember who it was that was tweeting this, but

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Speaker 2: if it wasn't effectively for like healthcare and maybe one

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Speaker 2: other service sector maybe hospitality, you would have had net

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Speaker 2: job loss on the year. So, you know, the stated

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Speaker 2: goals of the Trump administration has been, oh, we're going

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Speaker 2: to surge all these like blue collar all these sort

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Speaker 2: of like tough masculine, manly man jobs for our men folk.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, the economy has shifted even more. We're

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Speaker 2: losing blue collar jobs, we're losing manufacturing jobs, and what

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Speaker 2: we're gaining are, you know, in professions that are typically

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Speaker 2: dominated by women.

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Speaker 8: The other thing I wanted to highlight is o Washington

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Speaker 8: Post report is not letting me share it on the

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Speaker 8: screen right now. I'll send it to you Griffin. But

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Speaker 8: this is from the This is from yesterday about how

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Speaker 8: more people are relying on part time jobs.

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Speaker 10: Or people who are in UH or people are relying

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Speaker 10: on multiple jobs.

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Speaker 8: So those two things, So part time jobs up and

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Speaker 8: people working multiple jobs up. And that's another part I

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Speaker 8: think of the economy that will be politically for Republicans

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six. That's just an indicator that there's

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Speaker 8: dissatisfaction with the job picture overall. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: obviously an important reflection of how happy people are with

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Speaker 8: the opportunities available right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And yeah, the key thing there, just to

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Speaker 4: underline it once again, is the lack of hiring. Like

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Speaker 4: we're in this weird situation where there aren't a lot

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Speaker 4: of there aren't there are layoffs, but the layoffs are

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Speaker 4: not happening at the cataclysmic rate of like the Great

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Speaker 4: Financial Crisis. The cataclysm is slowly unfolding in the sense

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Speaker 4: that when somebody leaves a job. They're not opening up

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Speaker 4: what they call a new wreck like they're not. They're

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Speaker 4: doing everything they can and pushing all managers are being

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Speaker 4: pushed to figure out how can we do this job,

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Speaker 4: how can we automate it, and how can we just

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Speaker 4: push more work onto the existing numbers of people, which

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Speaker 4: over the next couple of years, because of the way

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Speaker 4: that attrition works and people revolve in and out of jobs,

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Speaker 4: that's going to be the that's going to be where

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Speaker 4: millions of jobs end up being lost. Like anybody that's

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Speaker 4: looking for job can can vouch that it's very, very

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Speaker 4: hard to find one, even though you're not We're not

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Speaker 4: in a place where people are getting laid off at

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Speaker 4: like an epic scale. Here's something that showed up again

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Speaker 4: in these numbers.

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Speaker 10: I was gonna say, here's some spin.

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Speaker 8: This is ej Antoni, who I think was what he

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Speaker 8: was briefly nominated to head up BLS. He says full

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Speaker 8: time jobs exploded in December, with the hottest print of

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Speaker 8: twenty five rising eight hundred and ninety thousand, while part

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Speaker 8: time jobs fell seve hundred and forty thousand. Great to

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Speaker 8: see people moving from part time to full time work

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Speaker 8: and social large numbers, even though this positive shift doesn't

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Speaker 8: appear in.

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Speaker 10: Headlined job numbers.

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Speaker 8: Well, one of the reasons it's not going to appear

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Speaker 8: in headline's job numbers because the shared of workers with

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Speaker 8: multiple jobs this is, according to the Post analysis, is

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Speaker 8: at a twenty five year high, a twenty five year high.

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Speaker 10: Part of that is obviously because of the.

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Speaker 8: Gig economy, and some of that is actually good people,

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Speaker 8: good for certain people, but you're also looking at a

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Speaker 8: rising share of people being pushed into part time work

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Speaker 8: according to the Post analysis.

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Speaker 10: And so when you.

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Speaker 8: Have the rapid acceleration of artificial intelligence and you have

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Speaker 8: like record numbers, record numbers of unemployment among college graduates

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Speaker 8: in the spring, they're hoping that their tax cup bill

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Speaker 8: picks up and it gets their traction. And there's lots

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Speaker 8: of hiring that comes from that new manufacturing jobs that

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Speaker 8: comes from that gamble. When you're also having AI start

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Speaker 8: taking up obviously a lot of those entry level jobs

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Speaker 8: of particularly recent college graduates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's worth just underscoring the points

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Speaker 2: both of you guys are making. You know, The New

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Speaker 2: York Times, I think got their hands on these leaked

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Speaker 2: memos from yeah, they were able to get their hands

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Speaker 2: on these memos, internal memos from Amazon about the way

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Speaker 2: that they were planning on shifting work from humans to robots.

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Speaker 2: And Amazon has been sort of leading the charge at

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Speaker 2: the bleeding edge of automation for years at this point.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the idea is not, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 2: do this mass firing. It's they intentionally work their people

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Speaker 2: in their warehouses, which is where the bulk of their

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Speaker 2: workforce is. They work them to the bone until they

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Speaker 2: just crash on and they intentionally do not promote them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is all reported out and documented in

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Speaker 2: the past, and at a certain point your body just

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Speaker 2: can't take it. And so yeah, the ideas we're just

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Speaker 2: going to turn through these human beings and not replace

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Speaker 2: them with other humans, but replace them with robots. And

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Speaker 2: you know, over a fairly short amount of time, they're

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Speaker 2: planning on replacing something like half a million workers with automation.

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Speaker 2: They've already have a pilot warehouse down some in the South,

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Speaker 2: I want to say, Louisiana, where there's very minimal human involvement.

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Speaker 3: So they already sort of have a prototype with this, and.

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Speaker 2: They're already they're already trying to figure out how to

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Speaker 2: message to the public what is going to be happening here. Amazon,

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Speaker 2: of course being one of the largest employers in the

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Speaker 2: entire economy and a real trendsetter, both in terms of

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Speaker 2: certainly in terms of logistics, distribution, warehouse work, but really

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Speaker 2: in terms of the economy at large. So if that's

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Speaker 2: the way they're thinking about it, you can guarantee that's

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Speaker 2: the way that businesses across industries are thinking about how

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Speaker 2: they're going to replace these pest human beings with much

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Speaker 2: easier and lower maintenance robots as that technology comes to fruition.

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Speaker 5: Yep, that silence means that we all approve and are

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Speaker 5: happy with the state of affairs.

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Speaker 10: So uh, it means that Crystal is brilliant and we

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Speaker 10: are all so muchless we have nothing to add.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's bad out here, guys in LA because the

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 5: entertainment industry is dying, and the entertainment industry, if that's

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Speaker 5: not going well, that also feeds all the restaurants all

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Speaker 5: the other businesses in LA. So everyone is hurting really

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Speaker 5: bad out here in a way that I've really never

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Speaker 5: never seen before. Restaurants are closing down because no one's

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 5: making enough TV shows or movies, so those crew people

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Speaker 5: don't have money to go out, and it's a circular

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Speaker 5: kind of death loop happening in Los Angeles right now.

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Speaker 8: We need some data centers in LA.

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Speaker 10: Jobs does is.

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Speaker 6: The only paramount.

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Speaker 2: I have a little local anecdote just to add to that.

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Speaker 2: As you guys know, I just adopted another kiddy we have,

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Speaker 2: Socks has joined our family. I'll tell the whole story

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Speaker 2: another time, but in any case, when I was at

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Speaker 2: the shelter, the woman who's there, the volunteer who was there,

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Speaker 2: she said, We've never had more surrendered in in our history.

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Speaker 2: And I said, I said why. And they can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: They can't afford it. And people can't afford to get

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Speaker 2: their pets spade or neutered, even though you know there

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Speaker 2: are services you can figure out to get that done

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Speaker 2: for free, but if you're just showing up the vet,

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01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: it's going to cost. So they're having more puppies and kittens,

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01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: and then they can't afford the ones that they have,

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Speaker 2: and then they all end up at the shelter. And

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Speaker 2: she said it's a higher number than she has ever seen. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, again, just a little local indicator, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it's certainly certainly indicative of something Reali's going.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's a private equity story too, because during

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Speaker 5: the pandemic and afterwards, private equity took over a massive

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Speaker 5: amount of the veterinary industry.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it's almost like.

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Speaker 5: Eighty percent now of vets and clinics are not run

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Speaker 5: by you know, the mom and pop places they used to,

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Speaker 5: but private equity that now was ratcheting up the prices.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I someone who volunteers shelters and stuff. The

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Speaker 5: number one stories are either that apartments don't allow animals anymore,

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Speaker 5: like they're cracking down on that, or just yet cost Ryan,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to throw to you next because we have

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Speaker 5: some protests occurring in I ran now. I want to

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Speaker 5: put these up on screen, and I wanted to get

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Speaker 5: your sense of how meaningful this is because I was

1304
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: slightly skeptical of some of this, simply because Zionists have

1305
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Speaker 5: been mainly pushing this online and some of the worst

1306
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 5: kind of liars and fraudsters are very happy about it,

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Speaker 5: which always gives me kind of a moment to like

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Speaker 5: pause and maybe just try to be a little more skeptical.

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Speaker 6: I'll put these up while you talk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had told the Kamane spoke today publicly

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: lashed out at Trump throughout through his Throughout his speech,

1312
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: he said, you know, he brought he brought up the

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Speaker 4: fact that Trump killed more than a thousand Iranians during

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Speaker 4: the Twelve Day War. He quoted Trump saying I gave

1315
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: the order I commanded during the war, and then he

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: contrasted that with Trump saying the nation of Iran in

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01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 4: his the Iotola is a kind of a character of

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Speaker 4: people haven't followed his public pronouncements.

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Speaker 7: So he adds a.

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Speaker 4: Handful of inexperienced inattent of an unthinking people believe it,

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Speaker 4: accept it, and act according to his desires. So what

1322
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 4: the Itol is saying there is that he's blaming Trump

1323
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 4: for like instigating the protests. Now there's been criticism of

1324
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: the coverage of these protests, or there's been criticism of

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01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 4: the president distinguishing between quote rioters and protesters. It's and

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Speaker 4: it's very interesting because it's coming from the like the

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Speaker 4: it's like a mere image of what we have in

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Speaker 4: the United States because the right, or at least the

1329
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: kind of anti Iran, anti Iran government.

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Speaker 7: Segment of the population.

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Speaker 4: Here loves to debate this idea of who's a rioter

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Speaker 4: and who's a protester. But the difference between what's going

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Speaker 4: on in Iran and what happens, you know here in

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Speaker 4: the United States when people were getting upset that they

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Speaker 4: the protests weren't being called riots, is that there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of property damage done in you know, twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty for instance, in Iran, you've seen a significant number

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Speaker 4: of cops and other security services people killed in these protests.

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: There's a video circulating just today of of a of

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Speaker 4: a cop and I think in Isfahana, not exactly sure

1341
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 4: where just getting absolutely pummeled to death by by demonstrators.

1342
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Speaker 4: And so you watch some of that something you're like, wow,

1343
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 4: this is like that. That's that's beyond you know, mostly

1344
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 4: peaceful protesting. Now, the question of whether Ron government is

1345
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: going to go down, I don't know everybody, you know,

1346
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: every time this kicks off, people are like, oh, the

1347
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: regime is going to fall.

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Speaker 7: It's like what It's like, what would it be replaced by?

1349
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 4: Like even Trump has said that the Shah's kid just

1350
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 4: is not up to the task.

1351
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Speaker 7: And so if.

1352
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 8: I'm forming a team. It's Maria Karina Machado and.

1353
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 7: The government is throw in there.

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Speaker 4: The Runnan government is a massive thing, like it's it's

1355
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 4: not it's not one tinpot dictator like you could, you

1356
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: could kill the Ayatola. You know, I met with the

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 4: AS with a group of reporters, met with the Iranian

1358
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 4: President of New York when he was here for the

1359
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: u N and he said at the time that after

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Speaker 4: the Twelve Day War, they put in place a succession

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Speaker 4: plan that went like twelve people deep, So like can

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 4: they kill can they kill him? Sure they can, they

1363
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 4: kill the next layer underneath him, the next layer under that.

1364
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: But how you go from there to like installing an

1365
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 4: American puppet and around that that that I don't quite that,

1366
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 4: I don't quite see.

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Speaker 5: And then Ryan, what do you think of this clip

1368
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 5: from Trump yesterday who says, and he's been saying this

1369
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 5: a bunch that if Iran kills protesters, we're going to

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Speaker 5: hit them very hard.

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Speaker 11: Of that awful forty seven year chearity.

1372
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Speaker 15: Well, I don't want to say it, but I will

1373
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 15: tell you they're not doing well. As you know, probably

1374
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 15: better than anybody.

1375
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 14: They're doing very poorly.

1376
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 9: And I have let them know that if.

1377
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 15: They start killing people, which they tend to.

1378
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 14: Do during their riots, they have lots of riots.

1379
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 15: If they do it, we're going to hit them very hard.

1380
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Speaker 4: And so again like the mirror image, like like trying

1381
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 4: to think about what's going on there and through the

1382
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: lens of how we understand things going on here. Like

1383
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: here if a cop is at the side of a

1384
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: vehicle and pumps bullet into a side window and kills

1385
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,480
Speaker 4: a protest not even a protester, but a woman in Minnesota,

1386
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: like that's okay Iran. Protests in Iran can kill significant

1387
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 4: numbers of police officers. So it's very hard for you

1388
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 4: for Trump to square like why shouldn't he be going

1389
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: after Ice, Like why why are American security forces allowed

1390
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: to kill protesters and non protesters but protests in Iran

1391
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: are allowed to kill security forces? And if protesters are killed,

1392
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: then he's gonna bomb Iran like it. So there's not

1393
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 4: a whole lot of consistency going on there.

1394
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 3: Shocking development. We're all really surprised by that to go

1395
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 3: ahead him.

1396
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Speaker 8: Well, I was just gonna say, it is always very

1397
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 8: hard to know when you're on the cusp of genuine

1398
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 8: because we go through this.

1399
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 7: When it happens, it happens like out of nowhere and quickly.

1400
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 8: Well, and the people who are saying Griffin started by

1401
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 8: saying he was skeptical of people who are promoting this,

1402
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 8: but that's obviously a thing that happens. You have people

1403
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 8: who are either paid or working for nonprofits where their

1404
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 8: ideological goal is regime change, and you know, for better

1405
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 8: or worse, that is what they want, and so they

1406
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 8: hype up the narrative to make it seem like around

1407
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 8: is on the cusp of falling, and that makes it

1408
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 8: more and more likely for intervention. So it is, and

1409
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 8: sometimes like these protests are genuine and that like they're real,

1410
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 8: organic uprisings. But it's just always so so hard to

1411
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,440
Speaker 8: know what's real and what's propaganda.

1412
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 2: It's very hard to tell from afar too, like how

1413
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: big are they?

1414
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 9: You know?

1415
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just like how conservatives and America

1416
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: will convince you that every American city is like an

1417
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: absolute hell whole war zone if I like picking out

1418
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: certain glips. It's just very hard to know if you're

1419
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: not there and you're not on the ground. When I

1420
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: talked to doctor Parcy yesterday, he was making the point

1421
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: that you are Emily, which is that regardless of whether

1422
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: the regime is actually on the brink of collapse, which

1423
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: he's highly, highly skeptical of, to say the least, this

1424
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: is very much helping make the case to Trump that

1425
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: it will be quick and easy for him to you know,

1426
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: take consequential action and exactly exactly and Trump signed that hat.

1427
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: So you know, not only does doctor Parci think that

1428
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: Trump greenlit Israel bombing Iran, but he feels at this time,

1429
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: in in contrast to last time around, that he thinks

1430
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: the US will actually take the you know, the initial

1431
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: step will sort of lead the way versus how it

1432
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 2: was done last time, where Israel started you know, bombing

1433
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: them and then we came in afterwards. So I think,

1434
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, between the fact that you still will always

1435
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 2: have Israel and their you know, their allies in the

1436
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: government and Mirror Maddelson and the whole Israel lobby pushing

1437
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: for more bombing of Iran and regime change in Iran,

1438
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: you always have that dynamic going on. Then you also

1439
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: have Trump feeling very you know, very I guess, confident

1440
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: in his military abilities. Very he feels like this was

1441
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: a mission accomplished moment in Venezuela. He feels great and

1442
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: like this was super easy in a big political win

1443
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: for him, So that pushes in the direction of hey,

1444
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: let's do more military stuff. And then when you add

1445
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: to that the the visuals of the protest and whatever

1446
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: the reality of the protest are, that also gives him

1447
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: more of a sense of like, oh, yeah, we could

1448
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 2: totally get in and you know, and do this and

1449
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: make something happen. Now what that's something is given that

1450
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: he's ruled out the you know, the the Shaw's fail

1451
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: sun here, I think that is a bigger a question

1452
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: for me. But you know, a lot of things are

1453
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: pushing in the direction of more direct action in Iran.

1454
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: Whether that's imminent, whether it's later on, I don't know.

1455
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 2: I think Greenland is also very much, you know, front

1456
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: of mind and on the table here for all of this,

1457
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: And if you're looking for something that's really just quick

1458
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 2: and easy, Greenland is the obvious target because as who

1459
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: was it Steven Miller, who I think said on CNN like,

1460
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: no one's gonna fight us for that. It's true, Europeans

1461
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: aren't gonna do shit about it. So if you just

1462
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: want another quick, you know, quick and dirty victory, Like

1463
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: Greenland is the easy place to look for that.

1464
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 10: And they're now apparently offering there. They're debating whether or

1465
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 10: not to offer the.

1466
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 8: People of Greenland one hundred thousand dollars each for the US.

1467
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 5: Soccer wanted to give them two million each.

1468
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: Genuinely, how do you think Americans are going to feel

1469
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: about it? You know, like not great? Like doesn't that?

1470
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 3: Does that not occur to anyone?

1471
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: Like we're going to rebuild Venezuela's infrastructure, make Venezuela great again,

1472
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: give oil companies a bunch of guarantees. By the way,

1473
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: there's a whole long list of oil executives meeting with

1474
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: the administration and with Trump today. And we're gonna pay.

1475
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a universal base income for Greenland. Like

1476
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: what are we talking about here?

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 10: And I mean two years in day salary for the

1478
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 10: average American?

1479
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 7: Right?

1480
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: Can I move to Greenland and get them right and

1481
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 2: pick and pick up that bonus? I mean, yeah, there

1482
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 2: might be an arbitrage opportunity here, and so like, you know,

1483
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: the other thing that's silly about Greenland is sort of

1484
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: like an echo of the Venezuela thing, like Maduro is

1485
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: totally willing to sell us oil and for US not

1486
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: to have to own Venezuela and run Venezuela.

1487
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: That was all on the.

1488
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: Tail, like all the minerals, the resources, whatever they want

1489
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: for their data center, all that stuff that was on

1490
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: the table. Same thing with Greenland, like if we want

1491
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: more military in Greenland, we can put more military in Greenland.

1492
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: We already have insane level of rights that we probably

1493
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to do what we want in Greenland. Like

1494
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: you want their natural resources, cool, I'm sure they would

1495
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: sell them to you. But there's also this element of

1496
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: some weird like Peter Teal connection here where they want

1497
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: to set up one of their weird ass cryptocities or

1498
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: something and have looked at Greenland for that. So that

1499
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: may be part of what's going on here. In any case,

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: that's kind of where things stand right now.

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 8: At one more point on Iran is just when Messadeg

1502
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 8: was overthrown and the Sha was restored, that did not

1503
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 8: end well.

1504
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 10: That is why we are where we are right now.

1505
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 8: So these like it's actually a place of Venezuela as

1506
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 8: well that you could feel like if you're a Lindsay Graham,

1507
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 8: you got this win, and then you will frame it

1508
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 8: as a long term win, when in fact it's like

1509
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 8: a short term win that has under the surface caused

1510
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 8: all kinds of different problems that will be tensions that

1511
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 8: ramp up slowly over the course of years or even

1512
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 8: a decade plus, and it's cyclical. It's not solving like

1513
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 8: some larger problem of making Iran totally friendly to US

1514
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 8: interests in the long term. In fact, in the long

1515
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 8: term it can make that much much more difficult because

1516
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 8: people care about their own sovereignty and they remember Iranians

1517
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 8: remember what happened in these regime change efforts more than

1518
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 8: Americans do. It weighs heavily on their minds. So this

1519
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 8: is these things that are pitched as long term solutions

1520
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 8: are often even by the people who are pitching them

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 8: short term, by their terms, short term solutions that have

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01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 8: counterproductive long term, long term ramifications.

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01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just interesting to see us in this

1524
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: odd transitionary time where we still are parroting the language

1525
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 4: of human rights and insisting that places like Iran follow

1526
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: international law and human rights, while we're transitioning to a

1527
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: country that does not even like pretend to do that.

1528
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 4: Ourselves and that it glorifies in like like this, as

1529
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 4: Vance said, this officer should be celebrated, that should be

1530
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 4: thanked for killing this woman.

1531
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's worth putting those two pieces together, Ryan,

1532
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: because you have ICE now the largest law enforcement agency

1533
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: in history. It has a budget that is larger than

1534
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: all but I think thirteen countries militaries, including like military

1535
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: like Canada, significant size countries, and you have Trump asking

1536
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: for one point five trillion dollar defense budget, so.

1537
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: Effectively all of the tax payer.

1538
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: Resources are being funneled into security and police apparatus. And

1539
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: I think that I think that tells you everything about

1540
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,520
Speaker 2: the direction they're taking things in both domestically and abroad.

1541
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: And which is wild because we're not that like restless

1542
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 4: of a country, Like we're not that hard to control,

1543
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 4: like we're just watching football on Sundays, like going to

1544
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: charge and like putting our kids and goals, like we're

1545
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 4: not we don't have separatist movements and gorilla movements.

1546
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,879
Speaker 3: And but I think.

1547
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: They say, I think they believe what they're saying about

1548
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: AI and how I mean, if you throw, you know,

1549
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: in short period of time, third of the country out

1550
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 2: of a job, then you know, we may not be

1551
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: so they're they're not sure we're going to continue to

1552
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: be so docile, and uh, you know, for a good reason.

1553
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the you know, the Netflix, uh and

1554
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: the Sunday Sunday football is going to play people forever.

1555
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 3: If you've got a.

1556
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 4: College the week, Faturday's regular, NFL Sunday, NFL Thursday.

1557
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,520
Speaker 7: Now you got NFL like Friday and Saturday.

1558
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 6: Like and you can bet on all of them, NBA.

1559
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 3: Pretty much any day of the week, so you.

1560
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 10: Can bet on them. It's extra fun.

1561
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 8: You can bet on the length of the White House

1562
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 8: press conferences.

1563
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 2: Yes, well they're certainly if they're trying to you know, uh,

1564
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: keep the public placated and docile. They're making a big

1565
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: mistake by trying to crack down on drugs. So just

1566
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: put that tactical misstep there. But but no, I mean

1567
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: I did, just to be serious about it. Like I

1568
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: think in my mind, like all of these tech oligarchs

1569
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,719
Speaker 2: who are effectively running the administration and picked the vice president,

1570
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: they believe that they are trying to rip up the

1571
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: social contract, that is what they say. They believe they

1572
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: are going to be displacing, in their words, all of

1573
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: human labor.

1574
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 3: These are not stupid.

1575
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: In a certain sense, they are stupid people, but in

1576
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, technical, IQ intellectual sense, they are not stupid people.

1577
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 3: They have studied history, they know what that could mean.

1578
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, I don't think it's an accident

1579
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: then that you end up with this massive federal government

1580
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: operated at the pleasure of the president, private gestapo police force,

1581
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: which is what I says. I know it's supposed to

1582
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: be centered around immigration. I think we can all see

1583
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: that it goes far beyond that. Who enjoys, according to

1584
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: the Vice president, absolute immunity, And we're going to kick

1585
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: up the military budget to one point five trillion, which

1586
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: also is not just about abroad. I mean, we have

1587
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: military deployed into American streets. We've had that regularly under

1588
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: the Trump administration, and they're thinking invoking the Insurrection Act.

1589
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: So put it together, and I think we can all

1590
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: see pretty clearly where they think that things are heading.

1591
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 8: Well, you know, Elon Musk just posted a couple of

1592
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 8: weeks ago that we're all going to have universal high income.

1593
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 8: It's like they know they're fundamentally re engineering the way

1594
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 8: society works, our relationship to labor, our relationship to each other.

1595
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 10: They don't know. I mean, this is the point about it.

1596
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 8: If they're smart or not, Like, they don't know what's

1597
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 8: actually going to happen, but they know that in a

1598
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 8: macro sense, that's what they're doing.

1599
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: That's their goal. Yeah, their goal is to rip up

1600
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: the social contract. That's what they want. Again, Panel goes

1601
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 2: quiet after sun still drop done. Panel stunned into silence.

1602
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 9: Bomb.

1603
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 5: Me and Crystal recently read a book separately about by

1604
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 5: Aaron Bastani.

1605
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 6: We didn't read it together, but it.

1606
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 5: Was about Aaron Bustani called fully Automated Luxury Ecommunism, which

1607
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 5: kind of argues that there might be a path forward

1608
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 5: where this is a good thing, that we turn into

1609
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 5: a post scarcity, post work era, and to a certain extent,

1610
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 5: that this AI technology we're experiencing is akin to an

1611
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 5: industrial revolution, and that the technology is going to be

1612
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 5: here and exist and shape it, and it's sort of

1613
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 5: up to us to decide on a policy level if

1614
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 5: that's going to lead to a more equitable world or

1615
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 5: a barbaric fascist world.

1616
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is you know, our friend Yegor Katkin, our

1617
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Russian socialist friend, is he's trying to get me there

1618
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: in my thinking of like, stop being a doomer and

1619
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,959
Speaker 2: take them up on the offer to rewrite the social contract,

1620
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: and that may be the you know, the best possible

1621
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: play on the table is like, Okay, you guys want

1622
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,520
Speaker 2: to rewrite the social contract.

1623
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: Cool, here's our demands.

1624
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 7: That might be you know, we're going to have the numbers,

1625
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 7: that's for sure.

1626
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1627
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: So I have been trying to reorient my thinking in

1628
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: that direction because while you know, I think we can

1629
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: do some things to slow things down, I think that's

1630
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: essential while the democratic process catches up. You know, if

1631
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: like they they are not going to stop going. There

1632
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 2: are too many trillions of dollars on the line at

1633
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: this point, I think it would be very you know,

1634
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: near impossible to actually stop the development of AI further

1635
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: in this direction. So in any case, yeah, those are

1636
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: so that the book is excellent, though, I mean, just

1637
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: to get people thinking, I'm bigger about what might be possible.

1638
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 5: Unless doo, Marie, I think, which it might be important

1639
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 5: in this time to have an optimistic view of the

1640
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: future that inspires people.

1641
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: Which is what the left is supposed to be about.

1642
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, as I say, a little political point, Ronda

1643
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 8: Santis has been railing against AI and big tech recently,

1644
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 8: which is from the conservative perspective, sort of an obvious,

1645
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 8: obvious way to draw daylight between yourself and JD. Vance

1646
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 8: or any kind of Trump administration candidate that would be

1647
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 8: running in twenty twenty eight. So that has been fascinating to.

1648
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 5: Say, well, we're going to need someone to lead us

1649
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 5: into this brave new world, and who better than CBS's

1650
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 5: new evening anchor Tony Dakoopole.

1651
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 6: Yes, Ryan, the moment you've been on a war path.

1652
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 5: Ryan, I want I want to start with you, but

1653
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 5: first for the audience if you haven't been tracking or

1654
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 5: watching CBS Nightly.

1655
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 6: Like I have.

1656
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 5: There's been a little bit of a rocky start with

1657
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 5: some of Tony's clips here, but they're really making him

1658
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 5: the face of the network now. There's been a few

1659
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 5: different moments here. This was on his opening night here

1660
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 5: where we had a little teleprompter flow.

1661
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 15: That base of power and influence could be out too

1662
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 15: all right to other news, as you just heard from

1663
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 15: Jill Well to other news now to Governor Walls. No,

1664
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 15: we're gonna do Mark Kelly first day, first day, big

1665
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:55,839
Speaker 15: problems here.

1666
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 7: What are we going to Kelly. Here are we going

1667
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 7: to go to Jonah kaplan?

1668
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 15: We're doing Mark Kelly possibly demoted from.

1669
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 6: His all right, you know what?

1670
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 5: This is why we don't do a show live. You know,

1671
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 5: I feel like the situation. There was a moment also

1672
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 5: where he went to his hometown of Miami and cried

1673
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 5: because he said it made him very emotional. That one's

1674
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 5: a little too long to play, but I think the he's.

1675
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 3: Too embarrassing to play.

1676
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 5: It's too embarrassing to play, it's too uncomfortable. I think

1677
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 5: the quintessential clip here that kind of also shows Barry

1678
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 5: Weiss's influence and and sort of what the new CBS

1679
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 5: is going to look like is this clip from Tony

1680
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 5: about Marco Rubio that I just have to play in

1681
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 5: full here and only in America.

1682
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 15: The many lives and many jobs of Marco Rubio, the

1683
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 15: son of Cuban immigrants and a former Florida senator. He's

1684
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 15: now the face of US foreign policy and President Trump's

1685
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 15: point man on Venezuela, all in addition to his roles

1686
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 15: as Secretary of State, Interim National Security Advisor, and acting

1687
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 15: National Archivist, and.

1688
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 10: Us AI D chief.

1689
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 15: Whatever you think of his politics, you got to admit,

1690
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 15: it's an impressive resume, and now AI memes have added

1691
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 15: to that portfolio, casting Secretary of Rubio as the new

1692
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 15: Governor of Minnesota, Tim Minister of Greenland, the new manager

1693
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 15: of Manchester United, the head of Hilton Hotels, and highest

1694
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 15: of high honors of all the new Michelin Man.

1695
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 7: Now back in real life.

1696
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 15: Of course, these memes may not add up to much,

1697
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 15: but for Rubio's hometown fans, which are many around here

1698
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 15: in Miami, it is a sign of how Florida, once

1699
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 15: an American punchline, has become.

1700
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 10: A leader on the world stage.

1701
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 6: Mark Rubio, we salute you.

1702
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 15: You're the ultimate Florida Man.

1703
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 5: Marco Rubio, we salute you.

1704
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 7: What had become punchline America? Florida, Florida, Florida had.

1705
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 4: Become a punchline at But Florida, man.

1706
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: It's not because not according to Tony to cobbelunchline what.

1707
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 4: A self refuting piece of propaganda.

1708
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: I like that.

1709
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: That's Ryan's problem with it is the logical inconsistency, Like

1710
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:19,440
Speaker 2: wait a second.

1711
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 7: A punchline, even worse punchline more embarrassing.

1712
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 2: I never found this meme amusing even before Tony to

1713
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Cobel killed it because I'm like, you know, the the

1714
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: picture of Rubia makes it look like he's miserable to

1715
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: like be in charge of Venezuela now.

1716
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: But he fucking loves this ship. Like that's the part

1717
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 3: about it.

1718
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: I was like, this doesn't it's not funny to me

1719
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: because it doesn't poke fun at reality. It like invents

1720
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,839
Speaker 2: some totally different dynamic that doesn't exist. Putting that aside,

1721
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 2: the obvious point here is that this is some of

1722
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: the most humiliating state propaganda they have out done Fox

1723
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: News now. I genuinely think that that is the case,

1724
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: and it has to be that. It can't be subtle

1725
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: because Trump does not appreciate subtlety. So it has to

1726
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: be the news equivalent of the cabinet meetings where all

1727
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: the secretaries take turns going, oh my god, sir, you

1728
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: are the most incredible, better than Abe Lincoln, better than

1729
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: George Washington.

1730
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 3: It is an honor to be in your presence.

1731
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: It has to be the news equivalent of that for

1732
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: them to get what they're after, which is like, you know,

1733
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Trump's blessing for whatever deals that Allison's want to do.

1734
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 4: What's abs Newsmax what's the Anderson Cooper piece, Like she's

1735
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 4: also sitting on an Anderson Cooper.

1736
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 10: Piece about South Africa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, yes, Anderson Cooper did a piece starting back

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01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 4: in November December or whatever, or it was screened in

1739
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 4: November December about the South African refugees from the white

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01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 4: genocide unfolding there. And because it's going to be factual,

1741
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 4: it's going to be an embarrassing piece for the administration.

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01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 4: And so the reporting is that Barry what she tried

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01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 4: to get Anderson Cooper to be the Tony Dokal pill,

1744
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 4: but Andrews Cooper was like, no, I that would be

1745
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 4: an embarrassing move.

1746
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 6: Take the red pill or the DOCA pill.

1747
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 8: He's max and then Red pillar doc pill.

1748
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 14: He's on fire.

1749
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 4: And so now Barry Weiss, the reporting is is heavily

1750
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 4: intervening in his and edits to his piece on these uh,

1751
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 4: these refugees from the South African genocide, and there's no

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01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: there's no indication that it actually will ever air that

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Speaker 4: that she made an anomalous amount of suggestions. I'd love

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01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 4: to see her notes like that would be that actually.

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01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 8: I would because to be honest, I'm all for marking

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01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 8: up Anderson Cooper's scripts.

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01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 7: And I'd love to see the notes them.

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01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 6: Do they make them worse?

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01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 4: I'm missing about the South African story that that Barry

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01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: Weiss thinks it's important.

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01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 7: To get in.

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01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: Can I play one more piece from Tony to But

1763
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: this is just for last phrase.

1764
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: So this is the latest.

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01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Hardness of him, his deep reflections on the killing of

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01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Renee Good and what it all means. And people are

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01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: pointing out on Twitter that this sounds like some word

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01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: solid bullshit that like Kamala Harris would put together. And

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01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: so go ahead and let's take a listen to this one.

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Speaker 15: There is so much to say about the last twenty

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01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 15: four hours, but sometimes what matters most is what has

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01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 15: yet to be said at all. Oh, we need to

1773
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 15: hear by now, we've all seen the videos. Renee Good

1774
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 15: is alive in those videos behind the wheel of her suv,

1775
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 15: her three children expecting mom home again soon.

1776
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 7: And we've seen the freeze frames too.

1777
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,839
Speaker 15: We've heard the political warfare, the clashing declarations about what happened,

1778
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 15: and unfortunately we know the ending for Renee Good.

1779
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 7: Nothing is going to change that.

1780
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 15: Yet what we have not yet heard is one another

1781
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 15: I spoke to people today who haven't slept since it happened,

1782
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 15: who want ice out now, who don't like masked men

1783
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 15: on their streets, don't want their neighbors arrested, don't want

1784
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 15: families ripped apart. I've heard too, not on the streets protesting,

1785
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 15: but in passionate notes in my inbox from people who

1786
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 15: want to see our immigration laws enforced legally and peacefully

1787
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 15: and with safety for all, including the officers, who in

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01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 15: many cases are also parents themselves. These are both deeply

1789
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 15: American sentiments. But our job now is maybe the most

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01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 15: American thing of all. I can find a way to

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01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 15: live with people who are genuinely different from us, to

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01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 15: try to be fair to them, and in doing so,

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01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 15: to make things better and keep things decent, because in America,

1794
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 15: no one else is going.

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01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 7: To do it for us.

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01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 10: It's not my job.

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01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 6: But so you want to think.

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01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 15: About what happened here yesterday. But I can tell you

1799
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 15: we owe our children a nation that is better than

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01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 15: the one we live in today. And I can say

1801
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 15: that because we all know it's true.

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01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 8: Deep thoughts to what the fuck is that that's.

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01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 7: Yeah to have?

1804
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 4: Is that this that won't satisfy the right that so

1805
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 4: his interview with Tom Homer is instructive of the same

1806
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: phenomenon which he got Tom Holman to say that the

1807
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 4: investigation should play out. And he pointed out to Tom Holman, well,

1808
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 4: that's not what the DHS secretary is saying. That's not

1809
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 4: what the president is saying. The president they're saying she

1810
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 4: was a domestic terrorist and he is a hero. Like

1811
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 4: they're not waiting for the investigation to play out. And

1812
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 4: Tom Holman's like, well, I'm not going to like I

1813
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 4: think the investigation should play out. You ask them about

1814
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 4: their views. Like so he got Tom Holman to be

1815
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 4: the voice of reason, which is like, that's a good

1816
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 4: for him, remarkable feet of journalism, but that is going

1817
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 4: to be that is going to infuriate the Trump administration.

1818
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 4: So you can do you know, ninety nine out of

1819
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 4: one hundred pieces of propaganda and then it's going to

1820
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: be the one or the two where you do real

1821
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 4: journalism that undermines it all. And then you've got to

1822
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 4: ratchet up the proper and get into a labin or

1823
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 4: he's going to threaten your merger again. So that's why

1824
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 4: that's why he's in such a difficult bind because you

1825
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 4: I can't deviate.

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01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 8: I just disagreed that their goal is to please the administration.

1827
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 8: I think their goal is to please their billionaire class,

1828
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 8: and that.

1829
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 10: There is a distinction. Yeah, that's there.

1830
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 8: But this is like we see, like when there's daylight

1831
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 8: between the administration and the billionaire class. Is where there

1832
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 8: there will be daylight between like these CBS centrist uh

1833
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 8: like machine middle types and then the administration some of

1834
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 8: the billionaires that back the administration. Like that's where it's

1835
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 8: It's such a stupid, stupid strategy to try and revitalize

1836
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 8: monocultural mass media, but to do it from the sentiment

1837
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 8: of elites. Like, first of all, technologically there's no such

1838
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 8: thing as mass media. There's no such thing as monoculture anymore.

1839
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 8: It is absolutely dead. It makes no sense to try

1840
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 8: to revive it in tone, in content. It's not possible. Secondly,

1841
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 8: to think that these people because they're anti woke, like

1842
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 8: that Barry Weiss can come in someone who agrees with

1843
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 8: the average American. More on, like the question of quote wokeness,

1844
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 8: is the person who is going to run the whole

1845
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 8: news network in a way that makes sense and resonates.

1846
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just a disaster it's it's just a

1847
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 8: dumb it's a strategy so stupid only billionaires should come

1848
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 8: up with it.

1849
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1850
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Curseonally got anything to say.

1851
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 6: Left.

1852
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 2: I was just looking for the did you get January? Yeah,

1853
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: there's one other one that's the January.

1854
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Did you see him coverage?

1855
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 14: I didn't.

1856
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 8: I didn't have such an issue as Jay six one,

1857
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 8: but the one where he's crying about Miami.

1858
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 10: Did you see that one?

1859
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was so bad. I mean it's just

1860
01:35:54,439 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 2: like nobody that one. No, nobody cares number one, number two, Like,

1861
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's.

1862
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 3: So like, it's so it's so narcissistic. I mean, it

1863
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 3: really feels like part.

1864
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 2: Of this sort of neoliberal ideology where it's like everyone

1865
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 2: is just a tool for your own self aggrandizement and development.

1866
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 2: So like the fact that I got this job is

1867
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,520
Speaker 2: like deeply meaningful in some way that you should.

1868
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 10: Do the country right.

1869
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 3: And I'm like, like, no, we don't care, like we we.

1870
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: Think you suck. We don't except that we know who

1871
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: you are. We don't like you.

1872
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: It also shows how deeply in his soul he believes

1873
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 4: that he won that position through merit, yes, rather than

1874
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 4: the guy who Barry Weise was pleased to see attack Tana.

1875
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and basically like accuse him of being low key

1876
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 2: a terrorist.

1877
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 4: The job for calling a terrorist and because Anderson Cooper

1878
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 4: and the other people who are more qualified understood the

1879
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 4: assignment and rejected it, like that's why you got the job.

1880
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 4: So and you just completely misunderstand that clearly, Like you

1881
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 4: think you got it because you earned it.

1882
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I think I think that's wrong. Well before Christopher,

1883
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm just rebutting Ryan's point. It's actually because he wrote

1884
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 5: an article called My Adult Circumcision, How I made the

1885
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 5: cut for my new religion by there.

1886
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure it's a hot it looks like a

1887
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 6: uro true, I'm not sure. I don't know.

1888
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 10: Did you guys know he's married to he's very.

1889
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 4: Who is a fishhead. So we will, we will broke

1890
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 4: no criticism of Katie Turk.

1891
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 3: Found the six clip. I found a jan six clip.

1892
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 6: Let me and then we got to go about it.

1893
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 6: Go ahead.

1894
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 15: Also, tonight, five years after the January sixth attack, a

1895
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 15: group of pardon defendants marched Washington. President Trump today accused

1896
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 15: Democrats of failing to prevent the attack on the Capitol,

1897
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,839
Speaker 15: while House Democratic Leader had King Jefferies accused the president

1898
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 15: of quote whitewashing it.

1899
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 3: That's it, that's the whole thing.

1900
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: So Trump says this to a completely factually bullshit thing,

1901
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 2: while Democrats say this accurate about the pardoned defendants, Like

1902
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 2: come on, and but to Ryan's point, you're right that

1903
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 2: this isn't enough. Like what what Trump would want them

1904
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 2: to do is be like they were wrongfully convicted, these innocent,

1905
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: peaceful tourists who also did the extent that any of

1906
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: them did anything bad. They were Antifa, and they were

1907
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 2: righteous patriots because the election was stolen.

1908
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 3: Like that's what he wants to hear. He doesn't want

1909
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 3: both sides is not enough.

1910
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, I definitely agree both sides. It's not

1911
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 10: gonna be enough for the administration.

1912
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, but like it's he called it an attack, which

1913
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 8: already in and of itself would be a problem for Trump.

1914
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 8: And then it is like that that is an accurate

1915
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 8: representation of what Republicans accused Democrats of doing is not

1916
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 8: having provided ample security.

1917
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 10: I actually think there's some evidence.

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01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 8: I actually I think part of that is legitimate, that

1919
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 8: there were opportunities for Pelosi to send in more reinforcements. Now,

1920
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 8: nobody was anticipating what actually happened at the Capitol, and

1921
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 8: that was an intelligence community mistake. Even though they had

1922
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 8: informants fucking everywhere, they had social media surveillance, and still

1923
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 8: somehow Anyway.

1924
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 2: Your job is not to say, to repeat the press

1925
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: releases of partisan actors. Your job is to provide factual information.

1926
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 8: The factual information that I thought the fifteen second snippet

1927
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 8: was providing was here's how both parties like mark the

1928
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 8: fifth anniversary of January sixth.

1929
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 6: I think I think it was both sides, you know.

1930
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 10: It definitely why and I think both sides.

1931
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 7: Stuff is lame.

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Speaker 5: Well to Ryan's point, you know, when people just look

1933
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 5: at Tony, they feel like there's a level of he

1934
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 5: didn't get there by his own merit. A lot of

1935
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 5: people just get this feeling of why am I watching

1936
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 5: this guy? Why do I care what this guy has

1937
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 5: to say, which is how what people feel about me

1938
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 5: on this show.

1939
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 6: So I salute you, Tony, not true.

1940
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 3: Griffin Trail and favorite fantasy.

1941
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 5: They salute you, and I'm so proud of you representing

1942
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 5: people like me.

1943
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 6: I feel seen and keep doing the work that you're doing.

1944
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 10: Tone representation.

1945
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 5: Representation matters. Crystal, we have another incredible interview with another

1946
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 5: incredible candidate in Colorado. Would you like to tee it

1947
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 5: up for us before we throw to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

1949
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: So I interviewed earlier this week me lot Kiros, who

1950
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: is a fantastic candidate against a Democratic incumbent in Denver, Colorado.

1951
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 2: And you know, she I mentioned before she was fired

1952
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: from her love firm for actually standing up for other

1953
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 2: lawyers and young associates who are coming in and we're

1954
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Speaker 2: getting fired for their pro Palestinian advocacy. So in any case,

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Speaker 2: you know, she's taken this as an opportunity to you know,

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Speaker 2: become more engaged in the political process and have the

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Speaker 2: kind of representation that she wants to see the district

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Speaker 2: she's running to represent. She's, by the way, she's backed

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Speaker 2: by Justice Democrats, they think, and they're very careful with

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Speaker 2: their resources. They think she has a good shot to

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Speaker 2: win this Democratic primary. And part of why is because

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Speaker 2: this is one of the most blue, bluest districts in

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Speaker 2: the country. We obviously interviewed another aspirant for a different,

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Speaker 2: very deep blue district in the country. It's also one

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Speaker 2: of the youngest districts in the country, and obviously in

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Speaker 2: terms of the politics of Palestine, that makes a big difference.

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Speaker 2: So enjoyed my conversation with her, and I think you

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Speaker 2: guys will as well. Very excited to speak today with

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Speaker 2: Mailat Kiros, who is a Democrat challenging a Democratic incumbent

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Speaker 2: in a Colorado district. She is backed by the Justice Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at a little bit of our

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Speaker 2: campaign launch.

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Speaker 6: Hey over here, come here.

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Speaker 9: Being a congressman, Bigett's financial disclosures.

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Speaker 16: Take a look at this big pharma, fossil fuels, defense contractors,

1976
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Speaker 16: and yes, even a notorious member of Epstein's inner circle.

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Speaker 9: I'm may Lot Kiros, this is Denver, and I'm running

1978
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Speaker 9: for Congress because it's time for a change. Members of Congress,

1979
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Speaker 9: even Democrats who say they vote the right way, are

1980
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Speaker 9: beholden to the same billionaires who keep our prices high,

1981
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 9: burn our planet, and profit from a genocide. The good

1982
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Speaker 9: news is that we can change that, and it starts

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Speaker 9: by changing who we send to Congress. We can't afford

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Speaker 9: another thirty years of complacency. We need to fight. When

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01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,839
Speaker 9: I spoke out against the genocide and gaza, powerful lawyers

1986
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Speaker 9: told me to stay silent or it would cost me

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Speaker 9: my job. I didn't back down. I'm going to do

1988
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Speaker 9: the same in Congress. You'll always know where I stand.

1989
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Speaker 9: Medicare for all, housing first, an arms embargo. The era

1990
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Speaker 9: of any Democrat will do is over. It's time for

1991
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Speaker 9: a fighter. Today, we're announcing our campaign is endorsed by

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Speaker 9: Justice Democrats.

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Speaker 11: They're joining the.

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Speaker 9: Thousands of grassroots supporters fueling our fight. We already have

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Speaker 9: more donors than to get and I'm not taking a

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Speaker 9: dime from APATH or any.

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Speaker 2: Corporate paths and may Lot joins us. Now, welcome Grace

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Speaker 2: to meet to you.

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Speaker 11: Thank you so much for having me. Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, So you lay on quite a bit

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Speaker 2: there in your campaign launch video about why you're running,

2002
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Speaker 2: But what was the final push that led you to

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Speaker 2: jump into this race?

2004
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Speaker 9: Ultimately it was Donald Trump winning the election again and

2005
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 9: witnessing the failure of Democrats to actually acknowledge and understand

2006
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Speaker 9: why working class people were upset with the lack of

2007
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 9: deliverance by the federal government and not actually understanding that

2008
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 9: the affordability crisis was massive for them, and to actually

2009
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Speaker 9: address that problem and really guess like the American people

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 9: into believing that everything was fine, and that's how we

2011
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Speaker 9: ended up with another Trump administration. And we need democrats

2012
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Speaker 9: that actually acknowledge the problems and offer the solutions that

2013
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Speaker 9: are going to make a maine full difference.

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Speaker 2: So you reference this in that video, but you've been

2015
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Speaker 2: outspoken against the genocide in Gaza.

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Speaker 3: You lost your job for it.

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Speaker 2: Just tell people what you said, what you did, and

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Speaker 2: what the personal consequence has been.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately, I was talking about law students that were losing

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Speaker 9: their job offers because they were protesting the genocide that

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Speaker 9: was happening in Gaza.

2022
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Speaker 11: I spoke out against their firing.

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Speaker 9: I spoke in favor of freedom of speech and also

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Speaker 9: that there was a genocide happening in Gaza, and to

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Speaker 9: use this geopolitical situation, these human rights crimes to you know,

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Speaker 9: silence dissent against this genocide was absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: And so that's what I said, and I got fired

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Speaker 11: after I refused to take it down.

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Speaker 9: And immediately after I was getting messages from other attorneys

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Speaker 9: who wished they could have spoke looking out saying the

2031
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 9: same things against the genocide, but they couldn't risk losing

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Speaker 9: their health insurance. They couldn't risk losing their job because

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Speaker 9: their partner just lost their job. And it realized very

2034
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 9: quickly that this is a coeresive market. It's not a

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Speaker 9: free market. And when our employers can use our jobs

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Speaker 9: and our health insurance to crush dissent against the government

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01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 9: and its actions for using our tax dollars to fund

2038
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 9: the genocide, something was deeply wrong with our system, and

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Speaker 9: the only way to really address it was to get

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Speaker 9: to the root cause of this, which I believe is

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Speaker 9: the money in politics issue.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that legal to fire you for exercising

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Speaker 2: your First Amendment rights.

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Speaker 11: At will employment? At the end of the day.

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Speaker 9: It's not a decision that I agreed with, of course,

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Speaker 9: but when we were talking about a genocide that is

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Speaker 9: being waged by Democrats who are taking money from the

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Speaker 9: very folks that want this to continue to happen, it

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Speaker 9: makes it incredibly difficult for employees to challenge these decisions

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Speaker 9: in the workplace. So whether it was at will employment

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Speaker 9: at the end of the day, and so it's something

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Speaker 9: I disagreed with, but ultimately it put me back on

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Speaker 9: the path of actually fighting for everyday working people and

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Speaker 9: getting back to public service and fighting for the kind

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Speaker 9: of policies that would make a meaningful difference for folks.

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Speaker 2: So you're running to represent a Denver district that's relatively

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Speaker 2: blue district. All the action is going to be in

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Speaker 2: the Democratic primary or going against a Democratic incumbent.

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Speaker 3: Diana to get.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about her and how you

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Speaker 2: contrast with her.

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Speaker 9: Diana de Gett has been in office since nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 11: She's been in office longer than I've been alive. And

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Speaker 11: while I have.

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Speaker 9: A great deal of respect for the work she might

2066
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Speaker 9: have done in the past, for the last ten or

2067
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Speaker 9: so years there's been nothing.

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Speaker 11: It has been nothing but lukewarm leadership.

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Speaker 9: And we are literally steering down multiple crises with our economy,

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Speaker 9: with our democracy, with the climate. We cannot afford another

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Speaker 9: thirty years of just complacency. And all that time she's

2072
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Speaker 9: been an office, she's only passed two bills, and she's

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Speaker 9: taken millions of dollars from corporate packs, including big pharma,

2074
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Speaker 9: big energy, defense contractors. So it's no wonder that we

2075
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 9: are continuing to see democrats enable this kind of behavior

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Speaker 9: in the federal government, whether or not it's a Democrat

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Speaker 9: or a Republican in charge, because it is these corporations

2078
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 9: that are truly influencing these parties, and it has to

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Speaker 9: change by ensuring that we no longer vote in corporate

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Speaker 9: shills into government and are actually making sure it's to

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Speaker 9: the people that are holding the politicians accountable.

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Speaker 2: I see you've taken very strong and admirable stance against

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Speaker 2: Trump's illegal actions in Venezuela. You posted this, You said,

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Speaker 2: Trump just invaded a foreign country, cannap their leader, put

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Speaker 2: all their oil up for sale the direction of his

2086
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 2: billionaire backers, and all establishment Democrats have to say as

2087
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 2: he didn't ask for permission first, distracting from the Epstein

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Speaker 2: files is just his bonus. I'd love for you to

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Speaker 2: elaborate on that. But also has Diana Degatt has she

2090
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 2: said anything? What has been her position on Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: The exact same response that a lot of establishment Democrats

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01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 9: have had, which is that they didn't ask for Congress's

2093
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:09,759
Speaker 9: permission first, and ultimately that is ignoring the very real

2094
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 9: reality for a lot of Americans that witness this already

2095
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 9: happen again.

2096
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 11: They know that this is not about drugs. We know

2097
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 11: that this is about oil and money and power.

2098
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Speaker 9: And for the Venezuelans who are rejoicing the removal of Maduro,

2099
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 9: I can understand where where they're coming from. But ultimately,

2100
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 9: there has never been a case the United States government

2101
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 9: invading a foreign country and overthrowing that government and leaving

2102
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 9: the country better often when we first arrived, because it's

2103
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 9: never about bettering that country. It's about extracting all the

2104
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 9: resources to feed the insatiable greed of corporations and billionaires

2105
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 9: here while everyday working Americans are just left out to dry.

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Speaker 9: And that continues because they're establishment democrats like Diana de

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Speaker 9: get who take money from the defense contractors and the

2108
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 9: big energy companies that are going to benefiting from deals

2109
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,679
Speaker 9: like this to all to continue while they feign outreach

2110
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 9: by basically just saying that they didn't ask for permission first.

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Speaker 9: The American people do not want to go to war

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Speaker 9: with Venezuela. They know that this is just the regime

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Speaker 9: war change. This is not about drugs, and we deserve

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Speaker 9: better from democrats to actually fight forced lee against this war.

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Speaker 2: I saw your Governor Jared Poulas put out an absolutely

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Speaker 2: horrific statement saying that now is the time to celebrate

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Speaker 2: the oustar of Maduro, and you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't even feel like doing the throat clearing at this point. Ever,

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Speaker 2: I think the American people see very clearly the way

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Speaker 2: that these regime change actions go and to your point

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Speaker 2: that it doesn't end up benefiting the people who are

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Speaker 2: harmed the most are the people that they're pretending to help.

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Speaker 2: At this point, what did you make up of his statement?

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Speaker 2: And where does this come from?

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Speaker 9: I mean, ultimately, we are talking about a governor that

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Speaker 9: is himself extremely wealthy, is largely in the same kind

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Speaker 9: of conversations with the same oil executive.

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Speaker 11: Then it's not surprising in the least bit, right, And ultimately.

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Speaker 9: This is coming from a place where Trump add closed

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Speaker 9: door meetings with these oile executives, asked for their support

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Speaker 9: in the campaign, the millions of dollars that they donated,

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Speaker 9: and this is just Trump, you know, meeting his end

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Speaker 9: of the bargain. And so when we're talking about Democrats

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Speaker 9: who are participating in the style of politics which is

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Speaker 9: ultimately just bribery by these corporations and these billionaires, this

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Speaker 9: is what ends up happening. It's working class people that

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Speaker 9: get left behind while they just feed their insatiable greed.

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Speaker 2: Would you vote for Hakim Jefferies to be Speaker of

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Speaker 2: the House if you win and if Democrats could take

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Speaker 2: control of Congress, which is you know, fairly expected at

2141
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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 9: I refuse to vote for anyone to be Speaker of

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Speaker 9: the House that is continuing to take a pac money

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Speaker 9: into continuing to aid and a bet the genocide that

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Speaker 9: is happening in Gaza.

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Speaker 11: If there's a.

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Speaker 9: Change of heart by that time, then I might reconsider.

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Speaker 9: But ultimately this has to be about standing on principle

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Speaker 9: and choosing the American people first and choosing human rights first.

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Speaker 9: And right now who Kie Jeffries is not meeting that moment?

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Speaker 2: May lad, are there any specific sort of Denver, Colorado issues,

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Speaker 2: just to give people, you know, a sense of anything

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Speaker 2: that may be unique to your race and to the

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01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: constituents you're looking to serve.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, the first district and Denver is one

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Speaker 9: of the youngest. That's not the youngest district in the

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Speaker 9: entire country, it's one of the bluest districts in the country.

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Speaker 11: This is an incredibly progressive city.

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Speaker 9: We have things like universal pre k, we have term limits,

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Speaker 9: We even have the small donor matching program that helped

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Speaker 9: propel Zohran Mamdani to a win in New York City.

2162
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Speaker 9: And so we are talking about a city that deserves

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Speaker 9: to have a representative that actually reflects those values.

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Speaker 11: In Congress.

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Speaker 9: We have very strong anti corruption values here, and to

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Speaker 9: have a representative was taken millions of dollars from the

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Speaker 9: very corporations that are responsible for the affordability crisis that

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Speaker 9: are pushing out young people from this city. It's absolutely absurd.

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Speaker 9: And to have been in office for thirty years, to

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Speaker 9: have been at the helm of power while the affordability

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Speaker 9: crisis has unfolded, and to claim that you are the

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Speaker 9: only one who can help get us out of this

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Speaker 9: mess is absolutely ridiculous. And it insults the intelligence of

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Speaker 9: Denver rights who are seeing the affordability crisis, who are

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Speaker 9: trying to not just get by and make ends meet,

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Speaker 9: but to actually thrive and to build some kind of

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Speaker 9: generational wealth, which is impossible under these circumstances.

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Speaker 11: And when you have been in office for.

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Speaker 9: That long, you have lost touch with what the needs

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Speaker 9: are of the people in this district. And to be

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Speaker 9: in office for thirty years and it's just absolutely ridiculous,

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Speaker 9: and so Denver Rights are very excited about the prospect

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Speaker 9: of there being a real challenge in this race and

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Speaker 9: to see that there's someone who's actually talking about the

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Speaker 9: affordability crisis and offering solution that would make a meaningful difference.

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Speaker 9: So Medicare for all, housing first, universal childcare, and arms embargo. Right,

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Speaker 9: we're talking about having an elective official that actually listens

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Speaker 9: to the eighty percent of Democratic voters that wants an

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Speaker 9: arms embargo in Israel, It's absurd that we even have

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Speaker 9: to talk about it that way, but.

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Speaker 11: That's where we're at.

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Speaker 9: When it's money and corporations and billionaires that are actually

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Speaker 9: directing and influencing our government. The only way to get

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Speaker 9: rid of that kind of system is to vote all

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Speaker 9: of the corporate shills out.

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Speaker 2: Well, my lot, I think there are going to be

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Speaker 2: a lot of very interesting things that happen in politics

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Speaker 2: this year. I think there are going to be a

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Speaker 2: lot of Democratic incumbents who are caught a bit unawares.

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Speaker 2: If people want to support your campaign, where can they

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Speaker 2: do that?

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Speaker 9: You can join us at kirosfurco dot com. That's k

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Speaker 9: I R s fo r coo dot com. You can

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Speaker 9: sign up to volunteer. You can donate a small dollar

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01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,799
Speaker 9: donation on a recurring basis is massively helpful to candidates

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Speaker 9: like myself who do not take corporate pacman who do

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Speaker 9: not take lobbying money.

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Speaker 11: I don't take a.

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Speaker 9: Dime from apacs the People Powered campaign, and I'm really

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Speaker 9: really proud to share that we have two thousand more

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Speaker 9: individual donors than the incumbent does. This is a campaign

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Speaker 9: that the people are excited about, and I hope that

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Speaker 9: you will join us, whether it's virtually on the ground

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Speaker 9: here in Denver. We're going to start knocking on doors

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Speaker 9: and canvassing all over the city very soon, so I

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Speaker 9: hope to have folks.

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Speaker 2: Join us amazing. Well, thank you for taking the time

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Speaker 2: with us. I know you're super busy. And also thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for running. I really appreciate as someone

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Speaker 2: who ran for Congress unsuccessfully myself, hope will you do

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Speaker 2: a little bit better than I ended up doing. But

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Speaker 2: I know what a I know what a personal cost is,

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Speaker 2: I know it, you know what it requires of you,

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you stepping up with us.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Crystal. That really means a lot. You know,

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Speaker 9: ultimately we are talking about our generation facing down the

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Speaker 9: barrel of the future where we own nothing, rent everything,

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Speaker 9: and work until we die. You know, we have no

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Speaker 9: choice but to step up and fight for the kind

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Speaker 9: of future that we really believe in.

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Speaker 11: So I really appreciate that. Thank you, my pleasure.

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Speaker 5: All right, that was a lot Kiros in Colorado. Now, folks,

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Speaker 5: we are releasing this entire Friday Show episode publicly for

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Speaker 5: free at the start of the year, showing you, guys

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Speaker 5: what we do here in the second half of the show.

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Speaker 5: We want to just end here with some rapid fire

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Speaker 5: quick amy questions because this episode has run a little

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Speaker 5: bit longer than normal is amazing.

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Speaker 8: Way because I thought we were behind the paywall for

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Speaker 8: like the last.

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Speaker 10: Hour, so little.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, all right, So this person, mister Christopher, asks

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Speaker 5: what did Ryan mean when he said something like borders

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Speaker 5: are immoral.

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Speaker 4: That just the right to move about from one place

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Speaker 4: to another is just fundamental to human nature, Like and

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Speaker 4: I think Americans have a hard time conceiving of that

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Speaker 4: because they have that right. Like if you were born

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Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania and could never leave Pennsylvania, I think you

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Speaker 4: would quite easily agree with the sentiment when you drive

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Speaker 4: from Pennsylvania to Maryland and just drive across the border.

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Speaker 4: That feels natural. You could still have nationalities, citizenship and such.

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Speaker 4: You can have you can enforce laws. That's what I

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Speaker 4: mean that like not being able to move is inconsistent

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Speaker 4: with like human dignity and flourishing. Like I remember when

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Speaker 4: I was down in Bolivia touring a military base there

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Speaker 4: in the Chapari region. This guard who was with us

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Speaker 4: waiting with Christian Prenty. Actually we're like waiting to interview

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Speaker 4: a colonel or something. And he's like, he asked us,

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Speaker 4: He's like, how come you guys get to wander around

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Speaker 4: a Bolivian military base and I can't even go as

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Speaker 4: a tourist to the United States. And Christian said, it's

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Speaker 4: called imperial lismo. H But it's there's no like moral

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Speaker 4: way to answer that question. That's so, that's that's what

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Speaker 4: that's what I mean by that.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we'll move on, We'll keep them fast without

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Speaker 5: any opening up any debates among the hosts. Here this

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Speaker 5: next one from Amberlin FNP. Have any of you guys

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Speaker 5: ever voted for a member of the opposite party?

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Speaker 8: If so, why, Yeah, I mean, I don't consider myself

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Speaker 8: like a Republican certainly, but I've definitely voted Democrat in

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Speaker 8: DC elections.

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Speaker 10: Lesser two evils.

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Speaker 4: I voted for Wayne Gilchrest, a Republican for Congress, I

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Speaker 4: think as many times as I could. He was he

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Speaker 4: represented the Eastern Shore. He was a high school teacher

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Speaker 4: at my at Kent County High School. He is an

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Speaker 4: awesome guy. I know his kids, anti war for the

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Speaker 4: most part, environmentalist like. He would definitely be like a

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Speaker 4: liberal Democrat at this point, and then he was.

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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 4: He was ousted by Andy Harris, right wing lunatic Republican

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Speaker 4: in a Tea party challenge. So so yes, I also

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Speaker 4: voted for a Republican like state House member because the

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Speaker 4: you know, Eastern Short is very conservative and had one

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Speaker 4: of these blue dog Democrat vibes going into the nineties

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Speaker 4: or whatever, and there was this one Democrat who was

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Speaker 4: this far right wing Democrat who was very powerful and

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Speaker 4: blocking everything. So my logic was, be better to have

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Speaker 4: a powerless Republican in that seat than a powerful, bad Democrat.

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Speaker 3: Interesting that actually helped me get the marijuana Joe Man.

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Speaker 4: That helped me get the marijuana policy job, because in

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Speaker 4: the interview they asked me if I would be willing

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Speaker 4: to support either, you know, candidates in both parties as

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Speaker 4: long as they're good on weed. And I told that

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Speaker 4: story and they were like, oh my god, we like

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Speaker 4: we like actually opposed him because he was bottling up

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Speaker 4: our pot bills in Annapolis. You're dead right, Like that

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Speaker 4: guy sucked and getting him out was great. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: who cares. It's not about party, It's about getting things

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Speaker 4: done for people.

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Speaker 6: Crystal, have you ever voted for a Republican?

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Speaker 3: Never voted for a Republican?

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Speaker 2: Hard to imagine at this point that I ever would

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Speaker 2: unless the party completely and dramatically changes, or I was

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Speaker 2: in a district, like if I lived in Thomas Massey's

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Speaker 2: district and it's going to be a Republican like, I

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Speaker 2: would make sure to vote in the rep. I would

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Speaker 2: probably vote affirmatively for Thomas Massey because I do think

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Speaker 2: it's important to have this, you know, I konoclastic Republican

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Speaker 2: voice in Congress, and that would be more beneficial than

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Speaker 2: having like, you know, a random, like sort of shitty Democrat,

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Speaker 2: which would be the only thing that would have you know,

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Speaker 2: that would be likely to emerge in that district in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: Are you and Tom perry Ello's district is the one

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Speaker 4: where he's running.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm in the district.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of the guy they're very involved in

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Speaker 2: the whole Ukraine situation for wellman my brain Vinmin Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's a district I'm in. Yeah, although they may be

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Speaker 2: redrawing the lines because I'm kind of right between that

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Speaker 2: and one of the still Republican districts that's represented by

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Speaker 2: the guy that I lost to you back in twenty

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Speaker 2: ten and Rob Whitman, who sucks sort.

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Speaker 3: Of like run of the mill Republican sucks.

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Speaker 7: He was like a Hill staffer, right who like he.

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Speaker 3: Was now he was an environmental scientist.

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Speaker 2: Actually it was part of what's disgusting is like he

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Speaker 2: completely abandoned any you know, of his previous principles with

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Speaker 2: regard to conservation and environmentalism and just votes the party

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Speaker 2: line and like is completely unremarkable in every way, which

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Speaker 2: is just pathetic.

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Speaker 5: Last question from Patrick Mulligan here he says Nick Shirley

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Speaker 5: is a disgusting propagandist and I'm glad to see BP

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Speaker 5: take apart his lies.

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Speaker 6: Did you see his.

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Speaker 5: Ukraine quote unquote coverage? Also, why has BP not talked

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Speaker 5: about Hassan's propaganda pieces and lies. Now I love this

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Speaker 5: comic that's like, oh we got a guy who's mad

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Speaker 5: at everyone.

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Speaker 8: Hassan's China streams were fucking wild.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Emily, what do you think of Okay, what

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Speaker 5: do you think about Hassan's China streams go off?

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's different than Nick Shirley, Like Nick

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Speaker 8: Sureley will go like Seacot and not act like he's,

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Speaker 8: you know, a simp, whereas Hassan was in China and

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Speaker 8: was like, yeah, I simp for China, China is awesome,

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Speaker 8: which I thought was like completely insane and like self

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Speaker 8: evidently insane as it was happening, and they were.

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Speaker 6: Make surely simp.

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Speaker 8: He's not honest about it. No, No, I'm saying he's not.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying, Like he's not.

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Speaker 9: He's not.

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Speaker 8: I simp for China like China rocks, and Nick Shirley's

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Speaker 8: out there like I'm telling you the facts from Seacott,

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Speaker 8: here's what's happening, Like I am the Rick Steves of

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Speaker 8: fascist tourism.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm yeah, Okay, So I guess we feel that

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Speaker 5: there's propaganda on both sides.

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Speaker 6: Is that is that? What was that?

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Speaker 2: What we're saying, Well, I mean, I think with Hassan,

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Speaker 2: you're allowed to offer your opinion of what you think

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Speaker 2: of China, you know, like I don't know. It's different

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Speaker 2: than going to and like demanding to see these kids

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Speaker 2: in a daycare and fabricating some whole fictional storyline. That's

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Speaker 2: just totally both. And I mean there is fraud. Nick

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Speaker 2: Sureley did not find said fraud. So in any case,

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Speaker 2: I would put them as two distinct things, would not

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Speaker 2: I would not dump them in the same bucket.

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Speaker 4: Right, And it's just interesting that this is happening as

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Speaker 4: Trump is pardoning all of these fraudsters who have.

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Speaker 2: Like and who is whose administration is committing fraud? Like

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Speaker 2: freaking Caroline Levitt ended her press briefing apparently to like

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Speaker 2: pay off some polymarket bet.

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Speaker 3: Is what it looks like. It is what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: And there was certainly an insider trader on the what

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Speaker 2: was it with just oh on the Venezuela kidnapping.

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Speaker 10: My request for comment?

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Speaker 4: The Ponzi scheme guy that he pardoned defrauded like thousands

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Speaker 4: of people, like there's not These are not small crimes

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Speaker 4: and these are crimes with real victims rather than like

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Speaker 4: the taxpayer getting.

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Speaker 7: Built, which is not good. But like these guys are.

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Speaker 2: Really cops and firefighters who had their whole retirement robbed

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Speaker 2: from them, and now we'll never see a penny of

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02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 2: it because the President of the United States is cool

2387
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 2: with fraudsters as long as they like donate to them

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Speaker 2: or suck up to them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick, you have your next target.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm launching release the surely uh yeah, surely

2391
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 5: also is getting rewarded. And he's like, now now I'm

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02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 5: going to every daycare around the country, and so look

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02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 5: forward to I guess like every daycare has to submit

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02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 5: their children to him or you're just gonna get like

2395
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 5: a just an influx of kick and rumble streamers, like

2396
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 5: knocking on your door every day after And I think

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02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 5: that's gonna happen with bathrooms too, with like trans people

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02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 5: and bathrooms. I think like the next thing is going

2399
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 5: to be just going inside bathrooms with the camera is

2400
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 5: going to be the next socially right wing content creation

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02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 5: thing that's going to be allowed.

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02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 7: Now's so you.

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02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 2: See, surely, like wandering aroun around a medical plaza, like

2404
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 2: why are all these healthcare places in the same place.

2405
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,320
Speaker 7: There's not even there's not a foot locker to be seen.

2406
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 7: This is so weird.

2407
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:13,879
Speaker 4: Uh, Your your buddy Hannah Nia had a really funny

2408
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 4: post I had missed that he walked into like Shirley

2409
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 4: walked into a healthcare provider's office, sees a bunch of

2410
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 4: patients in the waiting room, walks up to the receptionist

2411
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 4: and asks her what the healthcare rates are.

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02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 5: I've never seen someone in more need of medical care.

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02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 3: Than is he like an I mean, is he an alien?

2414
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 14: Like?

2415
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 3: Do you not live here?

2416
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 6: Like he's a Mormon.

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02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny he said Mormon because I was just

2418
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 2: gonna say, it feels like something that Romney would have

2419
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:46,879
Speaker 2: done in his campaign.

2420
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 3: Remember how.

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02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 2: America It was like he was on safari in his

2422
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 2: own country.

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02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 3: That's what that feels like to me. So there is

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02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 3: a Mormon connection there.

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02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 7: I guess on Tuesdays we have a two for one

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02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 7: on casts.

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02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 2: Excuse me, good sir, could you please tell me what's

2428
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 2: your healthcare rates?

2429
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 4: Are healthcare rates? And then he walks out. He's like

2430
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 4: obvious fraud. They will not engage.

2431
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 6: It's so good.

2432
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 4: And then the country is like, yep, fraud send send,

2433
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:20,480
Speaker 4: send in the FEDS.

2434
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's right. That's where we live. That's cool.

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02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 14: Uh.

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02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 6: Well, on that note, folks, that is where we live

2437
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Speaker 6: this week.

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Speaker 5: We'll see where we live next weeks.

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02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:34,839
Speaker 10: Nick Shirley, Oh, it's.

2440
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 6: The Coppel all day.

2441
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's tough because they kind of it's like the

2442
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 5: you know, Nick Shirley's the hammer, he's on the streets,

2443
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 5: you know, and the Coppel's the brain, the mind.

2444
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want a serious answer, you have

2445
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 2: to go with the copyl because at least he did

2446
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 2: get that answer out to Tom Holm, and you know,

2447
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 2: like that was a real thing he produced, as opposed

2448
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 2: to like a bunch of fabricated slap aganda bullshit from

2449
02:05:58,800 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 2: Nick Shirley.

2450
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 4: The chance that Shirley is in talks with sixty minutes

2451
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 4: right now probably pretty high.

2452
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 5: Pretty ch imagine Shirley on a teleprompter. That would just

2453
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 5: be unbelievable. That'd be like something you play at Guantanamo.

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02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 5: All right, So Friday Show ending. Now, thank you to

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02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 5: the candidates that joined us this morning and anything else

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Speaker 5: before we leave.

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Speaker 3: All I don't think so appreciate you guys.

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02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 2: If anything crazy happens over the weekend, we'll try to

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Speaker 2: cover it otherwise. Actually, uh, Ryan, isn't it you and

2460
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 2: me on Monday? That's right, we do a commy takeover.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have with our special call on studio.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Super psyched about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to brainstorm questions for him, So if you

2464
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 2: guys have thoughts, send them our way.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a look at that as well.

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02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:53,840
Speaker 2: But definitely I want to talk to me about Venezuela

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Speaker 2: for sure, potential shut down, ice, many things to get

2468
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Speaker 2: into with him.

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Speaker 5: This indeed, all right, we'll see y'all then bye bye,