1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Monday, Best and Worst of the weekend, 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: as we always do every single Monday. What you saw 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: that you liked you didn't like, you can dial us 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: up a seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: sitting by. You'll take your phone call. Stat of the 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Also, the best female 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: golfer is heading to England one final shot major championship, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: the AIG Women's Open, one of the year's toughest tests. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: It'll be August first and second on NBC and Peacock. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if we said goodbye to the live tour. 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: I did watch over the weekend and you're still seeing 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: some marquee players. You're seeing some great golf. Cam Smith 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: was unbelievable. On Saturday. You're seeing John Rahm, Brice and Deshambeau. 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of players, and it just felt like 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: I was watching a wounded animal trying to get out 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: from the middle of the highway. And I don't know 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: what the future is for them. I've said before, if 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: they were so philanthropic and altruistic, and they were trying 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: to grow the game, and that's why they were going 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: to the Live Tour. If you believe that, then have 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: them qualify for the PGA Tour by playing on the 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: DP World Tour, because then you would be giving back 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: helping out that tour that doesn't get a lot of notoriety, 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: and then you can qualify to come back to the 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: PGA Tour. Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reid. They did that, But 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: you're watching and I didn't like the format from the beginning. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Even now, I'm watching them introduce like Terrell Hatton and 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: then they play his walk up song, and it just 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: sounded like you were at some pro am, like a 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: charity event on a Monday, you're raising money for something. 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: It was a novelty and I don't know how they 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: thought this was going to last unless, hey, they got 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: all this money. Well they ran out of the money 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: that they were going to spend on the Live Tour. 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: They still have more money than they know what to 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: do with it. They just maybe they accomplished what they 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: wanted to accomplish. Maybe that's what you know, the fund, 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: the Saudi Fund, that's they got what they wanted maybe 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: some sports washing. Maybe they got some positives out of it. 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: Whatever it was. Now it just feels like they're not 44 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: open for business anymore. Yeah, PAULI the big. 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: Question Dan, because you watched the live tour and we didn't. 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: Did they have their shirts tucked in? 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: Oh they did call back, Yeah they did. I did 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: go to my golf course over the yesterday. Of course 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: I walked in. Now had an issue. I took Dylan, 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: I took big Deray and Mario the Eyes and Ears 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: of the show, took them out to play golf. And 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: of course we had a moment on the tenth fairway 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: where the foursome behind us came up to Ray and said, hey, Bud, 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: tuck in your shirt. And Ray got all flum mixed 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and he was kind of lost for the rest of 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: the round because he didn't know if I was going 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: to get in trouble because I brought somebody out. I 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: had my shirttail out. But you know, this is the 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: guy who had music playing, by the way, which I'm 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: more bothered by music playing. My shirttail being out doesn't 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: make any noise. You playing music over there does not. 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to hear music so I get there driving range. 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Next thing I know, a couple of people come up 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: and go, hey, Bud. Now they're friends of mine, so 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: now word is out. I walk in. They go hey Bud, 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: and I go, oh you heard you go? Oh yeah, yeah, 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: everybody knows about it. And I saw the head pro Jake. 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: I said, look, I'm sorry I didn't tuck in my shirt. 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: He goes, don't worry about it because I don't know 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: who the person or people are who called out ray. 71 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: They didn't say they should say something to me after 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: the round. They should come up to me and say, hey, 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: I don't you know they're kind of sticklers or you know, 74 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: we want to have everybody tuck in their shirts. Like, 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: you're not the you know, police, you're not the ranger, 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: You're not you're nobody other than you're a member. You 77 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: want to go and you want to say something to somebody? Fine? 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Are you do you rake the bunker every single time 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: you're in it? Do you fix your ball marks all 80 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: the time? Like if we're going to get into etiquette here, 81 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: then this becomes a bigger conversation. So it's always My 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: wife says, don't make it worse. I go I'm not. 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I was bothered by that that. You know, 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: this guy picked on Ray, and Ray's easy to pick on, 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: and uh, what does that mean? Right? You know Dylan 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: said he's Ray's got a punishable face, yes, sure, which 87 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: I disagree with. It's not Mario has a punchable face. 88 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I felt bad for Ray that he 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: got yelled at and he thought he got me in trouble. 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: And so I had my shirttail tucked in and as 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: I went to the golf course just to make sure. 92 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: And so hopefully it's you know, we just try to 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: get along, that's all. 94 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: You know. 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: You don't belong to Shinnecock or Pebble Beach or Augusta here. 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: But if you want my shirttail in, it's just when 97 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm on the tee, I'm swinging like Reggie Jackson 98 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: in an All Star game. I mean, it's hard to 99 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: contain me. You can't stop me. You can only hope 100 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: to contain my golf shirt. Bud Hey, Bud, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Bud was the key there. 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: If he said excuse me, he didn't the word excuse 103 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: me to open it right when he chastises Ray. 104 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: No, yeah, hey Bud. And then the only time I 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: remember that was mister hand in Fast Times at Richmond High. Hey, Bud, 106 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: what's your problem? That's all I thought of. But he 107 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: didn't say it that way because if he said, hey, 108 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: are you what member are you playing with? And then 109 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: Ray could have said, oh, I'm playing with him. He 110 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: could have come up and said something to him, say 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: it casually, and then I would have said, hey, message sent. 112 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: But if you're looking at etiquette, turn down your music, yes, Dylan. 113 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, he could have done the coolest thing, which would 114 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: just keep his boss to himself. 115 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: I think would have been nice too. I'm okay if 116 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: you want to confront me and confronts the wrong word, 117 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: if you want to talk to me about it or 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: there's a complaint, I've been a member for over twenty years, 119 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: so I don't have my shirt tail tucked in. 120 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 6: Yes, did he look like the type of say and 121 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 6: what if we don't turn down our music? 122 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: Ray was worried. Ray was like, I don't he really like? 123 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: You could have sapped me in half? And I go, yeah, 124 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: but don't worry about it, Okay, don't worry about yes? 125 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 7: Do it? 126 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 8: Yeah? 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 5: I mean, if you want to talk to etiquette starting 128 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: any conversation with Bud, is that etiquette? 129 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: That's what I would say, Hey, Bud, Okay, we've covered 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: a lot of ground today, Lebron. I'd love it. And 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: the WNBA All Star Weekend, I thought I might get 132 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: a shout out by the commissioner, somebody might ask her 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: a question and say, hey, can you explain the Dan 134 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Patrick situation? And you didn't go on. But there was nothing. 135 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: It was a nothing burger. And I was like, we 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: waited that because I thought, Okay, maybe they were waiting 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: for the All Star weekend where she's going to talk 138 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: to the media, and that was the case. There just 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: wasn't much said there. 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I checked with a reporter that we know no 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: names who was at that press conference. The commissioner is 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: not asked about the non appearance on it. 143 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Not that we expected to, but it would have been interesting. Yes, Dylan. 144 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: Quick live update from this weekend. Lucas Herbert won. He 145 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: shot thirty under at Live Golf UK. That might be 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: the quietest thirty under for a tournament in the history 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: of golf. 148 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, they have pretty good crowds there 149 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: and you know it was an interesting venue. I had 150 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: never played that golf course, but yeah, it felt like 151 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: they were playing taps. That should have been the last 152 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: song the music they were playing for a live tour? 153 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: What are they playing there? That's taps? Yes, DoD How 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: often do. 155 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: Golf courses change how many strokes it should take for 156 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 6: par If someone or a group goes twenty five thirty 157 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 6: under parr, what did he do to the course? Or 158 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 6: maybe it should be four instead of five to get 159 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 6: into the hole. 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,479 Speaker 2: Well, if I'm the live tour, I want my players 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: to put up big numbers to play great. I want 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: to differentiate our group of talent to the PGA Tour, 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: like a look at the numbers they put up, and 164 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: they should because these people got paid an exorbitant amount 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: of money to play golf over there. It's just nobody 166 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: was interested. And the fact that they go, we play 167 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: fifty four holes, I go, I want seventy two, Like, 168 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: why would I say, let me have less golf to 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: watch over the weekend? We're going to fifty four and 170 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: music and and what? Okay, good luck with that. I 171 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: did like the graphics. I think Arlow's a really good 172 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: golf announcer David Ferrite was on there and so aesthetically 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: look good. It just you know, doesn't seem like it's 174 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: going to be around much longer. Uh Trip in Vegas, 175 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: Hi Trip, what do you have for me? 176 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 9: Hey, goodness, di dp I got two bests for the weekend. 177 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: We'll go with Dylan. 178 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 9: Congratulations to Jack and Coydon you know, bogey free on 179 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 9: the weekend he outran the field with the tournament record. 180 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 9: And then my second best is another congratulations. Even though 181 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 9: angel Reaes did not score in the game, she did 182 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 9: become the all time rebounder in the three point SHOOTOUTUM, 183 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 9: thank you, Trip. 184 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 10: Thank you. 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: I know. 186 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: She she won. You know, if it's about marketing yourself, 187 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: she's done an unbelievable job. I mean, she maximized her 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: abilities and she's become something. She's a thing. I mean, 189 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: she's she's more famous than Asia Wilson and she's nowhere 190 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: near the talent of Asia Wilson. I'm talking about famous. 191 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: Asia Wilson is going to go down in history as 192 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: one of the great players of all time. Charity is 193 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: one of the great players of all time. Uh Christ 194 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: in California, Hi Chris, what do you have for me today. 195 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, I got my best and worst of the 196 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 8: weekend five two. Thank you very much. 197 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: So. 198 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 8: My best was turning on the horse races from Saratoga 199 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 8: and seeing you being interviewed trackside. And my worst, it 200 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 8: could also be the best, was the brace just following 201 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 8: your interview. The jockey fell off his horse and nearly 202 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: got trampled to death. So depending on how you look 203 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 8: at it, he either had the best or worst day 204 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 8: of his life. And he raced the very following race. 205 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: He was okay. 206 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: Well, they they asked me if they could interview me, 207 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: and I go, look, I don't know anything about it, 208 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: and they go, well, yeah, but you're a Hall of 209 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: Fame broadcaster. I go, I don't know how that's you know, 210 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: can be relatable to this. We're in the paddock area 211 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: and I got yelled at because I almost got in 212 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: the way of one of these oh no no. I 213 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: was walking like I saw Jason Worth, a former baseball player, 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: and I was getting ready to go over and they 215 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: go hey, and I'm like, oh, okay, I saw a 216 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: flavor flav and then they go no, no, no, no no. 217 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: And I had all the credentials to go where I 218 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: think I could have gotten on a horse if I 219 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: wanted to, at least I thought. But yeah, I yeah, 220 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: once again, they had they interviewed me, and I was like, uh, 221 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what else. I don't know what to 222 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: tell you other than if the Ortiz brothers are on 223 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: your horse, you're going to win, and Counting Stars is 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: going to win and be the best three year old 225 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: Philly in America. That's all. That's all the information I 226 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: was given. I'm just I just given some information so 227 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: I didn't make a total fool of myself. Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, 228 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: what do you have for me today? 229 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 11: ADP, Thanks for taking my call. I want to get 230 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 11: back to the dan Wiki interview that you had and 231 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 11: I wanted just ask if to me. 232 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 7: I don't know. 233 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 11: I'm not saying that a journalist has to be critical 234 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 11: all the time, but it sounded almost like you were 235 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 11: talking to Lebron's agent and just how great everything was, 236 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 11: and one do you think journalism that these people are 237 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 11: getting too close to. 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: The subjects that they're covering. 239 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 11: And the biggest thing that stood out to me was 240 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 11: that he said that Lebron doesn't care about his legacy. 241 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 11: And I just want to know if you think that 242 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 11: Lebron put a bit on him before he boon set 243 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 11: him that crap. 244 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 2: Well, I think that Lebron is resigned to his legacy. 245 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: Everybody made a decision prior to this. I don't know 246 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: if there's anybody on the fence who says, man, if 247 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: he wins a title in another place, that's something Michael 248 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: never did. You know, you're either Lebron has the greatest 249 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: resume in Mike, the greatest player I saw. That's how 250 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: I approached the argument discussion, because you already got your 251 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: mind made up. Lebron could win another title and it 252 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: would be yeah, he's chasing, he's chasing, that's already started. 253 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: If he wins two, imagine if he won too, he 254 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: got to six. Is anybody changing their mind because Michael 255 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: never lost in the finals. Michael never went to a 256 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: seventh game in the fun I already know how this 257 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: plays out. But there's nothing wrong with rooting for both, 258 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: which is what I do. If Mike wants to come 259 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: back and play, and he wants to chase a ring 260 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: and he wants to go to okay, see, I'm fine 261 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: with it. I am, I am I am okay with that. 262 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: We're all chasing rings. I right, I would be chasing emmys. 263 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm chasing rings. If I'm a player, where where can 264 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: I get one? How do I get one? I mean, 265 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: if I could put Bob Costas on the show and 266 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: maybe we went a sports Emmy, I'd do it. I'd 267 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: be chasing Emmy's. 268 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Just just an. 269 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: Dylan's been replaced by Bob Costas. I'm sorry, Dylan, what 270 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 2: about Todd? He's irreplaceable. You imagine if I replace Todd 271 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: the therapy. But no, we're not even I don't even 272 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: want to address See this is where he'll go. Well, 273 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: why'd you bring that up? I'll be thinking about that 274 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: on the way home. 275 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: Just ruined dinner for me and my wife, Mabe. 276 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: Dylan brought it up Todd. Dylan did not. I said, 277 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: I cannot replace you. That's true, and I can't. I 278 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: cannot replace your irreplaceable. Dylan's pushing for it that How 279 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: about we take a break. Jim Jackson, is there anything 280 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: lebron can do that would change Jim Jackson's opinion on 281 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: this situation. I'm curious because it feels like everybody battle 282 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: lines are drawn and everybody has their information on why 283 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: they think Lebron's the greatest, or Mike's the greatest, or 284 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: Kareem's the greatest, or Kobe whoever it might be. Take 285 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: a break back after this. 286 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 287 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 288 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 289 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 12: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 290 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 12: five to seven pm Eastern. 291 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 292 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 12: We never have enough time to get to everything we 293 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 12: want to get. 294 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 13: To and that's why we have a brand new podcast 295 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 13: called over Promised. 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Listen Over Promised with 315 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 13: Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 316 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 13: wherever you get your podcasts. 317 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley was on the Stephen A. Smith podcast on 318 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Friday and he had this reaction to Lebron James going 319 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. 320 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 321 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: Initial reaction upon here in the news that Lebron James 322 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: is going to Philly. 323 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 14: Uh, shocked because I want him to go back to Cleveland. 324 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 14: I mean he has no affiliation with the seven and 325 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 14: six ers, but the number one knock on Lebron, Yo, man, 326 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 14: you always stacked in your team. He's stacked it in Miami, 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 14: he's stacked it in Cleveland, he's stacked it in La. 328 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 14: Now he's stacking it in Philly. He's always stacked his team. 329 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: It's bringing Jim Jackson, the former NBA player Clippers lead analyst, 330 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: What do you make of what Charles Barklay had to 331 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: say that he's stacking his team and chasing rings here? 332 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 15: Well, I mean a lot of it is true. He 333 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 15: wants to win. I mean, Lebron wants to win. Whether 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 15: you like it or not, the way he does it 335 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 15: for a lot of older players doesn't make a lot 336 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 15: of sense because the mentality back in the day was 337 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 15: you play it against your enemy quote unquote until you 338 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 15: couldn't beat him anymore, they couldn't beat you, and that 339 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 15: was it. I mean, the mentality of you know, he's 340 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 15: been there, done that we talked about. I mean, it's 341 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 15: exhausting talking about it with regards to Lebron and his 342 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 15: decision making and why he does things. And again Dan, 343 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 15: in his defense, he's supposed to do what he wants 344 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 15: to do and how he wants to do it, and 345 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 15: he'll deal with the ramifications that come with that, whether 346 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 15: that's not viewed as the all time best player in 347 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 15: the league by consensus of people. But I will say this, 348 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 15: the further we get away from the Jordan legacy, kind 349 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 15: of like Kareem and Wilt Chamberlain, the narrative I think 350 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 15: will change because the people who will be writing the 351 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 15: narrative ahead of the narrative are the ones that were 352 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 15: in the era of. 353 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: Lebron James, who saw Lebron James play. 354 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 15: Actually, and that story may sound a little different with 355 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 15: regards to who the best is, you know, fifteen years 356 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 15: from that, I just really think it does. 357 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: I would agree with you to a certain degree with that. 358 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: Mike still got his shoes out there. Mike strategically put 359 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: out the last dance. Mike sent a message after Lebron 360 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: won that title that was not an accent, that was 361 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: a reminder documentary, and he still has the best selling 362 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: sho that you made him a billionaire. I think will 363 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: be hard pressed to go. You know, I remember Lebron 364 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: and I think he's a better player than Mike. 365 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 15: Well that's but all things do change, though, I mean 366 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 15: at some point it's going to happen now. 367 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: I think fifteen years from now you got people saying 368 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: Lebron was a better player than Michael. 369 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 15: I think so because the generation that grew up watching 370 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 15: Lebron didn't really see Michael play, or you caught it 371 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 15: on the back end. The people that are going to 372 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 15: be writing the stories are gonna be talking about the 373 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 15: exploits of Lebron James. They can only talk about what 374 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 15: they saw on tape on Michael Jordan or what they 375 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 15: can look up. 376 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: It's like how dominant was Wilt Chamberlain. 377 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: Well, all the games are on YouTube. You can see 378 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: every one of Mike's performances. 379 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 15: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that people are going to 380 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 15: watch him. They didn't grow up with that. See, we 381 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 15: were fortunate, Dan. It was different with Mike during his era. 382 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 15: It was something special about not having social media because 383 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 15: when the Bulls came to town, when Mike, it meant something. 384 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 15: It was almost like once in a lifetime, even though 385 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 15: it was once in a season and you knew Mike 386 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 15: was going to be there, even playing against him at 387 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 15: that time. 388 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 4: It was just different. 389 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 15: If you can't recreate that aura, I don't care how 390 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 15: good Steph is, how good Lebron is. Kd these young 391 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 15: players because it was an aminemity for the Bulls and 392 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 15: Michael Jordan. 393 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: You knew stuff about Mike, but you. 394 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 15: Didn't know intimate details, okay, And I think that lended 395 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 15: itself to his. 396 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: Aura and his mistake a mystique. 397 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 15: We don't have that we know too much, which is 398 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 15: a good and bad thing about players today. And I 399 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 15: think you'll never be able to replace that. I think 400 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 15: that's one thing about Mike that nobody. 401 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 4: Will moving forward will have. Kobe didn't have it close. 402 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Both. 403 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 15: He was close, but he was on that back end 404 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 15: of when social media really started to really hit. 405 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 4: Okay, so that you know, gave. 406 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 15: Us a little bit more in depth into Kobe's life, 407 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 15: but not like he was on social media like that though, 408 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 15: you know what I mean. 409 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: It was just so different during Mike's time. 410 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: But the thing with Mike is you have moments you remember. 411 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: You don't necessarily how many moments of Lebron do you 412 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: have where you go, oh yeah, with Mike, I mean 413 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: we're littered with moments that we had not seen before, 414 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: or you know, he put up whatever, you know, the 415 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: regular season or postseason. Lebron's most famous play is a block. 416 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: Well, but you. 417 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 15: Know in Detroit, you know, scoring twenty five plus points. 418 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Yes, but that yes, but nothing that was a signature 419 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: like moment he to you well, I mean, see. 420 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 421 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 15: It depends on who's on who's making that argument, because 422 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 15: I'm sure they're run fans that can liter you with self. 423 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 15: That happened with Lebron and key moments, and but Mike's 424 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 15: aren't again because at the time the timing was so 425 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 15: I'm not saying that Lebron's is better or worse. I'm 426 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 15: just saying it's different. 427 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: No, his resume is better, Mike's a better player. That's 428 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: how I approach this. 429 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's one of those things secret 430 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 15: because of the everything surrounding the Bulls at the time. 431 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 15: I mean, it was a traveling circus bro I mean, 432 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 15: it was just ridiculous. So those moments with Mike were 433 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 15: special because at his time, he took the banter from 434 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 15: Bird and Magic and kind of just exploded from a 435 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 15: not just from the United. 436 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 4: States, but worldwide. 437 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 15: Magic had a touch of international success. But Mike's was 438 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 15: just totally different. It was just something you know, you know, 439 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 15: some people come into the room. You can be in 440 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 15: a room full of billionaire, millionaire superstars, but it's that 441 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 15: one person that comes in and their energy just changes 442 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 15: the room. I don't care who it is, that's Michael. 443 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 15: It's just something different. And it's not one thing, Dan, 444 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 15: It's not one moment, it's not one action, is not 445 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 15: one shot. It's a culmination of a lot of things 446 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 15: leading from North Carolina to his Olympic team to the Bulls. 447 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 448 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 15: It's just this whole plethora of things that have happened 449 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 15: in his life that he's been a part of. That 450 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 15: folds into why Michael Jordan will always be at the 451 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 15: top of the conversation, more so basketball wise, but just 452 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 15: what he meant to the game. 453 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Jackson, NBA college basketball analyst, tell me 454 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: how it doesn't work in Philadelphia. 455 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 15: It doesn't work as far as what winning the championship. Yeah, 456 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 15: I don't know, Dan, You know this, It's extremely difficult 457 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 15: in year one to win it. 458 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: Now. 459 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 15: That doesn't mean that they can't get to an Eastern 460 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 15: Conference finals. That doesn't mean that they can't get to 461 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 15: a finals. We saw they did it in Miami. But 462 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 15: a lot of things have to go right now. This 463 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 15: is a deep team. I put New York in Philly 464 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 15: in a tier by themselves in the Eastern Conference, and 465 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 15: then you have Boston in Chicago, I mean Boston and Cleveland, 466 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 15: Detroit probably below that, and then another tier with Washington, Orlando, 467 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 15: stuff like that. 468 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: One in b Health end of the year. 469 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 15: If I'm Philadelphia, I am low managing his minutes that 470 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 15: he's not playing because you need continuity, but his minutes 471 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 15: twenty to thirty two minutes a game. Sometimes he doesn't 472 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 15: play back to back so he can be healthy too. 473 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 15: How does Jalen Brown going from probably being the second 474 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 15: option now maybe still the second option, but in a 475 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 15: different way with Lebron. That's the key to me is 476 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 15: that Jalen Brown Lebron mixed, not MAXI not. 477 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: In the It's it's those two. 478 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 15: This this team has set itself up to be as 479 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 15: deep as anyone in the Eastern Conference. 480 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 7: Uh. 481 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 15: And I think we'll really get an idea of this 482 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 15: team and where they're at right around All Star Breaker, 483 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 15: right after All Star Break, going into the last month 484 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 15: and a half of the season, we'll get a real 485 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 15: good indication of where this team sits. And I figure 486 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 15: at that time they'll be at the top of the 487 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 15: leader board, you know, hovering around there in the Eastern 488 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 15: Conference at that time. 489 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: I mentioned if Jalen Brown doesn't go to the Sixers, 490 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: Lebron's not going to the Sixers, you don't think so, 491 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: No way he wants to win a title that's all. 492 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, everybody want to know you're going to go 493 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: back family and bookend your career to Cleveland. Hey, you've 494 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: been to Miami. This is about winning a championship. And 495 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown when he was traded July sixth, I think 496 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: Lebron James realized, if I'm going to win a title, 497 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: I got a better chance a title there than any 498 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: other place. 499 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: Well he does. 500 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 15: You know the ceremonial swan song would have been great 501 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 15: in Cleveland, but then it kind of would award self 502 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 15: out because it's the third time. You know, we kind 503 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 15: of seen this before. Yes it's special, Yes you're at home, 504 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 15: but can you get over the top. Golden State would 505 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 15: have been great for us as fans, just to see 506 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 15: Stephan and Lebron play together. Yeah, but from a competitive perspective, 507 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 15: I don't think they're getting out the West Billy is 508 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 15: intriguing because of all the components there and the opportunity 509 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 15: to get to a finals and win it. Now, New 510 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 15: York is still going to be tough. I know, you know, 511 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 15: losing Mitchell Robinson is itself. I got Andre Drummond. They 512 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 15: bring everybody back hole and healthy, and plus they have 513 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 15: the institutional knowledge show to speak of playing with each 514 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 15: other and winning it. 515 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 4: That gives them the edge. 516 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 15: But for talent for talent, roster for roster, if you 517 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 15: look at the starting five in depth of Philadelphia, you 518 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 15: cannot deny that this is a team that if everything 519 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 15: comes together there that come near the end of the 520 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 15: season is New York Philly Eastern Conference Finals, trying to 521 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 15: figure out who they're going to play in the Western 522 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 15: Conference for the NBA Championship. 523 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: And I do believe if Darius Garland is still on 524 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: the Cavaliers and not James Harden, you've got a better 525 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: chance of getting Lebron to go. 526 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: To Cleveland because of the way James. 527 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 15: Plays, Yeah, and because of his history. 528 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean. 529 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 15: I get what you're saying in that aspect, because it 530 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 15: is some dirty baggage that James does carry with him 531 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 15: despite all of the accolades. 532 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: And again I covered him those years here. 533 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 15: You know, in LA And one thing I will say, 534 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 15: despite some of the flaws that have perpetuated with James 535 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 15: throughout his career, my man wants to hoop. When it 536 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 15: was time when guys were out back to backs, he 537 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 15: wanted to play. Now, was it always pretty at times, 538 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 15: maybe not yet older. But one thing I will always 539 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 15: say that he did want to play. And that's an 540 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 15: interesting thought process. Is I heard other people saying the 541 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 15: same thing, some pundits, some people inside the NBA that 542 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 15: talked about if Garland was there and the fit with 543 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 15: James Harten just didn't quite match what Lebron was looking for. 544 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to play with James Harden. I can't 545 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: win a title with him. If we're playing pick up, 546 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: then all right, I'll take you right, but I'm playing, 547 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, Eastern Conference finals. I get a little nervous there. 548 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 15: No, I get you, you know, and you know, just 549 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 15: hold Lebron. Think it's interesting, Dan, because you've been around 550 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 15: this for a long time. We haven't seen anybody this 551 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 15: polarizing in sports. I don't believe with regards to one 552 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 15: coming out with the high expectations, okay, two exceeding those expectations, 553 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 15: but three being very critical of everything. Now, we can't 554 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 15: exclude from Lebron from ad into this himself. He has 555 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 15: he has some equity into how people perceive him, so 556 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 15: let's not get that twisted. But does so does everybody. Okay, 557 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 15: but it's just an interesting dynamic with Lebron James. And 558 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 15: it's a polarizing name when it comes up. 559 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: But I don't get it. 560 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: He's polarizing. I don't know why we don't root for 561 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: somebody like this who lived up to the hype, sur 562 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: passed the hype, grew up in a single parent household. 563 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: I mean, there's issues on the way, but not. 564 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: All like everybody like everybody, yes. 565 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: But people they make it seem like Lebron stole their dog. 566 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: I just don't understand. You know, maybe some sometimes he's 567 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: passive aggressive, but damn this, Well. 568 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 15: Here's the here's the thing. If he's passive aggressive, people 569 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 15: don't like him. If he's a Kobe like person that 570 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 15: just goes at his team makes where you're too hard 571 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 15: on the team, you can't win. 572 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: Okay, And. 573 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 15: I always say this, you can't take greatness for granted because 574 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 15: it doesn't come around like this that often. And for 575 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 15: the last I would say ten years, we probably see 576 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 15: a lot of people have taken the Bronze greatness for granted. Okay, 577 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 15: when it's gone, it's gone, it ain't coming back. This 578 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 15: is not country music. This is not entertainment where you 579 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 15: can go come back and do tours, you know, once 580 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 15: a year, twice a year, and you come out and 581 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 15: see once you're done playing, you're done. 582 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: And then all that. 583 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 15: You accomplished, all of that that you brought to the table, 584 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 15: all that excitement you brought, whether it was in Cleveland, Miami, 585 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 15: the Lakers are now Philly. 586 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: You're not getting it back. But people, as. 587 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 15: Human beings, it's well, if it was me, this is 588 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 15: what I would have done. 589 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 4: Well, it's not your circumstances. 590 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 15: Looking at it today, don't dictate how you would make 591 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 15: that decision because you haven't been through those steps. You 592 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 15: got to go through a litany of steps in order 593 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 15: to make certain decisions and think the way you do and. 594 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: Why you do. 595 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 15: But a lot of people think about on the cuff, 596 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 15: if it was me, I would do this, and I 597 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 15: would Well, it's not that simple. I'm not saying that 598 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 15: it's right. I'm not saying that it's wrong. And that's 599 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 15: why we're human and that's why we make our decisions 600 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 15: based on what we want to do a lot of time, 601 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 15: not well everybody else expects us to do. 602 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, people forget the Lakers weren't any good for five 603 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: years prior to Lebron getting there. 604 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 15: Well, I mean, you can't say that to Laker fans 605 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 15: because you know he wasn't. I'm here in La. He 606 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 15: was never accepted like that, like that. It was still 607 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 15: a Kobe standard. And I get it here in La. True, 608 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 15: Like the LA fans they root it for the Lakers, 609 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 15: but they weren't rooting for really Lebron. Yeah, I mean 610 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 15: they wanted the Lakers to be success, don't get me wrong, 611 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 15: But it was just cloud here in La despite what 612 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 15: Lebron brought to the table that it just wasn't good enough. 613 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 15: It wasn't Kobe. Kobe would have did this. Kobe would 614 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 15: have did this, and you forgot Kobe had some while 615 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 15: he was here in La. Kobe wasn't perfect, but he 616 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 15: was perfect for La. He was perfect for the environment 617 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 15: and community here. 618 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: And it wasn't a cloud. It was a marine layer. 619 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: By the way. Just let you know, all right, that's 620 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: what the locals call it. 621 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: That's what they're Okay, you're right, I get it too. 622 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: I get it in the morning. 623 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: Bro, Are the Lakers better today than they were a 624 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: month ago? 625 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: A little deeper, a little deeper? 626 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Are they better? 627 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 15: I think they're I mean, went to the first round 628 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 15: in the playoffs. They won. I don't think they're better, Okay, 629 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 15: I think they I think what happened though, Dan in order, 630 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 15: if you're going to pass the mantle to Luca, Lebron 631 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 15: couldn't be there. His his his his or is too big, 632 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 15: his presence is too big, even though he may be 633 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 15: on the back end of his career. If you're going 634 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 15: to give this thing that Luca, Luca had to have 635 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 15: full rain. He can't be looking over his shoulder and 636 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 15: not that that was a Lebron thing or whatever, or 637 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 15: Luke was uncomfortable, but it is, and so it was 638 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 15: time to make that change. It'll be interesting to see 639 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 15: over the next year and a half how they really 640 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 15: build out this roster with the restrictions that they had. 641 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, Thanks as. 642 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: Always, man, No marine layer. Today is beautiful out here? 643 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 4: Oh it is. Oh, it's beautiful. 644 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: Maybe go down to Venice Beach and getting a pickup game. 645 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 15: Hey, you know they have three on three this week. 646 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 15: They had big time three on three. Uh this weekend 647 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 15: in Venice. I missed it. I was doing ice cubes, 648 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 15: big big three. But always muscle beaches come down and 649 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 15: work out a little bit on the beach. 650 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Then I you know what, I did that a couple 651 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: of times with Schwartzenegger and did yeah. People, Well, the 652 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: problem is I was wearing short shorts when I was 653 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: doing the bench press and people were walking by, and 654 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: then you know they got so they got naw, they 655 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: apparently too much. Yeah, I was revealing too much. That's 656 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: you know. I thought I was showing off the guns. 657 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 2: I was showing off the buns. 658 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: Hey man, too much leg here, man, you gotta cut 659 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: that leg here? 660 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. Jim. All right, Jim Jackson, one of our favorites. 661 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: Take a break, Get phone calls here. Last call for 662 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: phone calls. What we learned once in store tomorrow After this. 663 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 664 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 665 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 666 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: listen live. Last call for phone calls. 667 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: What we learned once in store tomorrow, All of that forthcoming. 668 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: Take a couple of phone calls. Dane in Texas, Hi, Dane, 669 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: what do you have for me today? 670 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 7: Oh? 671 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: Good morning, Dan. 672 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, I had a couple of questions about Jerry West. Oh, okay, 673 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 10: and I was watching the documentary Icon uh huh, and 674 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 10: talk about best and the worst. It was the best, 675 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 10: but it was also the worst. My father and I 676 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 10: refuge Jerry west Barns. Well, it broke my heart. 677 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 4: Were the eight. 678 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 10: Losses and championships, especially six against the Celtics. 679 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, do you have. 680 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 10: A reason why he lost? I mean he played brilliantly. 681 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 10: Was it personal? 682 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, Celtics had a lineup that you had guys who 683 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: weren't even starters who became Hall of famers, and you 684 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: had a great coach. They just seemed to have everybody's number, 685 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: the Knicks beating the Lakers. Nicks won seventy and seventy three, 686 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: you know the Lakers in seventy two with that magical 687 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: run of thirty three in a row. But Jerry's numbers 688 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: were always impressive. And the fact that I don't know 689 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: if any other player was the MVP of the NBA 690 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: Finals on a losing team, That'll tell you how great 691 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: he was. You could just when it was too painful 692 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: for me to watch, I tried. I couldn't do it 693 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 2: because I know the pain that Jerry carried with him. 694 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: And even if he won one title, it wasn't enough. 695 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: It would never take away from those losses. And you 696 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: could just hear him and he was tormented, and even 697 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: when I talked to him in person, there was always, uh, 698 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: there was just something that was there, and you know, 699 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: I just I hurt for him. And he had a 700 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: great life, but it just felt like he knew that 701 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: he should have been better. And I can't imagine what 702 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: that must have been like. When you're facing the Celtics 703 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: and you got Bill Russell there and Havelcheck and Coozy. 704 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you got one of the deepest teams of 705 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: all time and then you throw in Red Arbac. Yeah, Marv. 706 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 15: Did Jerry West's success as a GM ever alleviate the 707 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 15: pain of those losses as a player? 708 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: No, No, it was different success. I mean, you're the logo, you're, you're, 709 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: you're mister Clutch was your nickname, and you win one title, 710 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: and I just think that that was It was such 711 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 2: a heavy burden that he carried. And I always wondered 712 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: if he was in therapy and how you could unload 713 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: some of that, because back then it was a week 714 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: when I was growing up, you were crazy if you 715 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: went to therapy, Like what's wrong with you you're in therapy. 716 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: What you know now, you're kind of crazy if you're 717 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: not in therapy. Uh, Brian and Maryland. Hi, Brian, what's 718 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: on your mind today? 719 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 10: Oh? 720 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 7: Hey, good morning guys. Hey, I've got a couple quick 721 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 7: things for DP and for Dylan regarding the Dead. So 722 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 7: I was thinking about you, guys. I love the show. 723 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 8: I love this little. 724 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 7: Debate, and I wanted to Yeah, I went to one 725 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 7: hundred and thirty two shows, by the way, about a 726 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 7: one oh one Dead show count in about thirty one 727 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 7: Jerry Garcia, and I wanted to say, Dylan, if you've 728 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 7: got to do any more recommends for Dan, try Jerry 729 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 7: Garcia band. They've got a motown sound. They cover how 730 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 7: sweet it is, cover second that emotion and then to 731 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 7: touch on that if you know, If you need to 732 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 7: find some more good recommends Dylan, go to a website. 733 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 7: I bet you love this website. It's called Heady Version 734 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 7: HGA d Y Version, where we vote one our favorite 735 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 7: versions of Dead songs and there's some Jerry Garcia discussion 736 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 7: as well. If you look for me, you want to 737 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 7: find Brian Brown on Hetty Version, just look for my avatar. 738 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 7: It's Charlie Brown and Linus On. 739 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: Al Right, Brian, all right, Brian, way too much grateful 740 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: Dead stuff there, Jerry Garcia. And if I want to 741 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: listen to a cover song, when on I just listen 742 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: to the song by the original artist. You're not going 743 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: to get me to listen to the Dead because they 744 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: did a cover of How Sweet It Is. Just say 745 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: go ahead, yeah, Bill, go ahead. 746 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 5: I mean sometimes covers are great. 747 00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 2: All right, Sometimes oftentimes sometimes, Paul, this day in sports. 748 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: History, I got a couple for you, Dan. Two thousand 749 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: and one, Dion Sanders announced his retirement from the NFL. 750 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: Ninety six, Canadian sprinter Donovan Bailey ran one hundred meter 751 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 3: nine eighty four. The record was Leroy Burrell of the USA. 752 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: Pete Rose in eighty four passed TI Cops record for 753 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: singles in a career thirty five oh three and that 754 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: is it. 755 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty six. Greg Lamone becomes the first American win 756 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: the Tour de France. Nineteen eighty eight. We actually talked 757 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 2: to him about this. Tommy John committed three errors on 758 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: one play. So he bobbles the ground ball, he throws 759 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: it in the right field, he takes the relay throw 760 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: and throws it over the catcher's head. Three errors, one play, 761 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: Tommy John and then he needed surgery. Todd, would you 762 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: learn today? 763 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 6: Jim Jackson says it may not always look pretty, but because 764 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 6: he's gotten older, but James Harden always wants the ball out. 765 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 2: Dylan that on the Rties Brothers. Yes, the best jockeys 766 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: in America, at least up there. Marvin Dyli said, Ray 767 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: has a punchable face. Yes, Paul, it's Curraseu Curas. Todd, 768 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 2: what did I learn? 769 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 6: There are quarterbacks in college now making more money than 770 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 6: the deal Lebron took with the Philadelphia seventy sixtions. 771 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody, Thanks for joining us, for Fritzie, Dylan, Marv, 772 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 2: Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you tomorrow.