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Speaker 1: Ravens fans, Welcome to the Lounge, presented by DraftKings. As

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Speaker 1: you may have noticed, I am neither Ryan Mink or

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Speaker 1: Garrett Downing. This is Cassie Calvert and I am joined

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Speaker 1: today by Cliff Brown because someone has to keep the

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Speaker 1: lights on in this building when everyone else takes vacation

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Ryan's always talking about the grinders,

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Speaker 2: but we can see who the grinders are this week,

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Speaker 2: myself and Cassie. So hey, we glad to be here

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Speaker 2: and let's get rolling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an extra special edition of the Lounge here. Actually

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Speaker 1: my first. I think I've been on the lounge for

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Speaker 1: me to be on the lounge for real for the

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Speaker 1: first time. Big day here at the Castle. OTA's rolling

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Speaker 1: on another open practice. So media was out at practice

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Speaker 1: today and the very exciting news that Mark Andrews took

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Speaker 1: the practice field for the first time this off season.

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Speaker 1: Looks great as usual, you know, he always kind of

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Speaker 1: waits to come in. It's kind of good for the

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Speaker 1: young titands to get some reps, you know, Charlie Kohle

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Speaker 1: or Isaiah Likely you know, obviously not as veteran as Mark,

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Speaker 1: Andrew's there and he and Lamar have that connection already.

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Speaker 1: They don't really need to work on that. That's his guy.

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Speaker 1: But it was great to see him out there. You

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Speaker 1: know you noted how great he looked out there already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was saying to you, like, is

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Speaker 2: there something as less than zero percent body fat? Because Mark,

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Speaker 2: I mean he looks shredded, just ready to go whatever

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Speaker 2: he's been doing. I don't think anybody was worried, but

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Speaker 2: he just seems like he has his off season routine

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Speaker 2: down bat When he shows up, he looks like it's

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Speaker 2: week one. So as you mentioned the young guys Cohler

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Speaker 2: who I'm really anxious to see, and he looks good

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Speaker 2: and likely they're going to be competing for reps along

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Speaker 2: with Mark, but to have Mark leading them after they

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Speaker 2: I think really raises the whole level of play. So

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Speaker 2: Mark's always a guy in this offense. I'm really interested

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Speaker 2: to see how Todd Monkin uses a guy who's so

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Speaker 2: he kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and became

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Speaker 2: a tight end. But those wide receiver skills are one

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Speaker 2: reason why he's so great as a tight end. He

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Speaker 2: a guy who to me today, as you mentioned, was

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Speaker 2: great to see, along with another person who I thought

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Speaker 2: had a great practice to day was Marcus Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense was really vocal out there too. That's

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Speaker 1: something that you and I both noticed. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my first couple of years here we talked about

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Speaker 1: There was a little turpiness going on today, which we like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's great to see how spirited it is

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Speaker 1: nice little interception out there of Lamar Jackson obviously, who's

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Speaker 1: you know, has always already been together. You know, this

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Speaker 2: I mean, Marcus Williams, you know now is going to

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Speaker 2: those are perceived expected starting safeties. We didn't see that

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Speaker 2: Those two voices are no longer here, So that to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. One of the things that struck me about Marcus

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Speaker 1: we just a practice today we're talking about, like you

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has some similarities to Chuck Clark. I

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Speaker 2: think that being around Chuck helped Gino that, you know,

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Speaker 2: to me to do exactly that. I mean, he he

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Speaker 2: Greg Lewis talked about his professionalism, you know, Devn's to me,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I feel like he is ready to like

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Speaker 1: I mean the wide receiver group in general, we obviously

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Speaker 1: go and team activity OBJ not here yet, so we

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Speaker 1: and it's it's only gonna get better. That's what's more exciting.

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Speaker 1: As these other pieces come back, going into training camp,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we're in June and it already is

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Speaker 1: is incredible. How the difference is, you know from last season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, the Odell not even being here yet.

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Speaker 2: How much diversity they have as far as you know

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Speaker 2: who Lamar can get the ball to and who Todd

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Speaker 2: when the defense doesn't know where you're gonna hit them,

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Speaker 2: and you have so many playmakers, you can't take away everything.

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Speaker 2: So you know, as always, I'm just hoping these guys

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Speaker 3: Them and Jority.

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Speaker 2: We know there's gonna be some injuries, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we've got DuVernay, Odell you know, and Bateman all coming

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Speaker 2: hit hard by injuries this year. You can't control that,

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Speaker 2: but again, it's encouraging to see what we're seeing from Bateman,

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Speaker 2: really encouraging what you're seeing from DuVernay. And then when

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Speaker 2: Obj gets here, yeah, I mean if he can show

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Speaker 2: to go off of my injuries, that's really exciting.

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Speaker 2: The way they're going now, new offense given him more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it strikes me too. Do you think that they're

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Speaker 3: No, that's the easiest question asked me today Cassie.

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Speaker 2: But actually, I'm not even gonna watch that because I'd

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Speaker 1: No, I don't need to like get out there and

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Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure filling in here on the Lounge

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Speaker 2: We ought to have this more oftencast That's what I

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Speaker 1: On that every time these two decided to jet set

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Speaker 2: Yeah,