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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet wirl, and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by FanDuel Tuesday, December sixteenth, twenty twenty five. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jay Skeetz here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 1: as always task Mellists podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: yo over Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer Jad Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is, and our special guest today, former Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Bucks All Star and Olympic gold medalist. And you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm adding to the resume, fantastic new NBA content

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Speaker 1: creator Michael Red. Welcome to the show, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while since we've been together, but it's

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Speaker 3: always the pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I should have said, yeah, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show because we checked the archives yesterday and Mike,

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Speaker 1: you appeared on an old episode of the Starters backing

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Speaker 1: our NBA TVs in like twenty seventeen. So it's been

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Speaker 1: a long time since we last talked.

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Speaker 2: It's almost a decade and.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say that, but a big fan of

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Speaker 3: you guys, and with a joy then, and certainly it's

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Speaker 3: a joy now to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got lots to talk about with you, and

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Speaker 1: you are sort of like in the content creating space,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into that in some of the videos

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Speaker 1: you've put up. But let's start with the Nixon Spurs

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Speaker 1: set for tonight's NBA Cup in Vegas, where the tournament's

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Speaker 1: going to produce a third champion in three years, no

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Speaker 1: matter what happens, no matter who wins. I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts as a former player who didn't have

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Speaker 1: this NBA Cup when you were hooping, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about this whole thing and both you know, if

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Speaker 1: you were playing, and I guess as a fan as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fun to watch. I think.

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Speaker 3: It gives fans something else to get excited about, to

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Speaker 3: be engaged with in the middle of the season. And

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Speaker 3: you couldn't have two better teams at the forefront of

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Speaker 3: this right now with the Spurs and the Nicks. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: this is the third year of the tournament. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's been fully optimized just yet, but it's trending

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be a phenomenal final and I'll

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Speaker 1: Are there things that you would change to the Cup?

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Speaker 1: Like in terms of you know, we're already getting rid

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Speaker 1: of the semifinals in Vegas out of neutral site, But

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Speaker 1: do you think they should go worldwide with this? Do

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Speaker 1: you think it should just be in the better seeds

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Speaker 1: of the higher seeds home place?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: How can it be optimized? Yeah said, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think globally.

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Speaker 2: I think it will go globally.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm not saying it should, but I think

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Speaker 3: it can. It could certainly do that with our fans globally.

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Speaker 3: I don't see why I wouldn't go global. And there's

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Speaker 3: way above my pay grade to be able to pay

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Speaker 3: creatively fair fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Are you envious of these guys playing for you know,

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Speaker 1: half a million dollars there if they win this thing tonight, Like,

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Speaker 1: would that have incentivized you when you were playing in

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Speaker 2: No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting when I played, you know, and

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Speaker 3: the money that we during that time seemed astronomical compared

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Speaker 2: Eighties and seventies.

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Speaker 3: We would hear you know, and Mike Gore, I can't

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Speaker 3: jealous or be envious of what these guys are making.

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Speaker 3: We fought for this in our collective bargain agreements over

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Speaker 3: the years, and the players deserve everything they get.

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Speaker 5: No NBA Cup when you played, but you did make

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Speaker 5: a Final four back in your college days. What's your

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Speaker 5: mindset going into like these single elimination games when it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun.

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Speaker 3: It's so fun, and I think it's a great format

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Speaker 3: for us it was four games and five nights. This

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Speaker 1: Do you have a prediction for Spurs Nicks here tonight?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, the Spurs aren't a heater right now, then you

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Speaker 3: get a chance to be Okay, see, you've got to

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Speaker 3: probably favor them. Although the Knicks with coach Mike Brown

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Speaker 3: been playing. But what it's time to close. There's not

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Speaker 2: I do have the Spurs pulling out, though.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, hopefully it's an entertaining game. Let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about last night and in particular one awesome

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Speaker 1: I want to make note of that. They had some

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Speaker 1: He's playing the best basketball I think we've seen over

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Speaker 1: these last few weeks. He's really putting it together. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Cooper Flag's you know, twenty five

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Speaker 3: No question, it is a deep class to your point,

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Speaker 3: But with Cooper, it was a matter of time that

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Speaker 3: be under better tutelage with Jason Kidd as his coach

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Speaker 2: Any rookie's going to.

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Speaker 3: Go through an adjustment period and the first few games,

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited about his future.

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Speaker 3: It's going to make him much more dangerous as a player,

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Speaker 5: How long did it take you during your rookie season

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Speaker 3: Probably I didn't play six games, so I never got

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Speaker 2: So it's a rhythm to it for sure that you

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Speaker 1: Let's get your thoughts on some of the surprising teams

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Speaker 1: so far this year. Is there a team or two

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Speaker 3: I think we all be lying to say we didn't

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Speaker 3: But Ingram has played at all star level, Scottie Barnes

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Speaker 3: Maybe next year, but they certainly have opened up a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think vets are essential.

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Speaker 3: And when I came in I'm a little bit biased

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of nuances that comes with being.

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Speaker 5: Is there a team that catches your eye when you're watching,

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Speaker 5: because we can tell you watch a lot of basketball.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a favorite league past team, like, is

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Speaker 5: it the Bucks having spent a majority of your career there?

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Speaker 1: Is it something else?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm always watching the Bucks for sure. Another exciting

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Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of seeing Tyre's Maxie play against

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Speaker 1: why why was that one more important to you? Was

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Speaker 3: You know, for me, it was homage to him as

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Speaker 2: He was the pinnacle.

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Speaker 3: He was the top dog at that time in our league,

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Speaker 1: There were a couple you know, smaller things from that

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Speaker 3: Now I was trying to justify why I missed, whether

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Speaker 6: It is fun just listening to you in retrospect of

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Speaker 6: What would you even talk about? What would your pop

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Speaker 5: You mentioned being left handed. You said you like Jalen

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Speaker 3: right handed players and the angles are different.

443
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. It was a huge advantage for

444
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Speaker 2: me in my career. For sure.

445
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up your unique form because we

446
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: had some fans of ours asking when they knew you

447
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: were coming on the show, asked Mike if were there

448
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 1: ever coaches in your development over your basketball career that

449
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: were trying to change your shot and your form and

450
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: your release and all of that, because like, oh, that's

451
00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: not how you do it. Does that happen?

452
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: It was one coach in particularly that tinker with it,

453
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: try to tinker with it.

454
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Speaker 2: That's it throughout high school and through college and the pros.

455
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 3: Not really, but there was one coach he said, hey,

456
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: maybe you need to, you know, switch it up a

457
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 3: little bit, but he kept hearing the net pop pop,

458
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Speaker 3: So there's no.

459
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: Need to change it if the ball is going in

460
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Speaker 2: the hole.

461
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: And uh, respectfully, so sometimes you can get caught up

462
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Speaker 3: into the beauty of the form of a Ray.

463
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Speaker 2: All and play Thompson.

464
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Speaker 3: Uh, but Step shoots completely different than both of those

465
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 3: Reggie right, and the ball goes in. So I measured

466
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: a great shooting by the quality and quantity of how

467
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: much it goes in.

468
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Speaker 6: What would that coach try and tinker with What would

469
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Speaker 6: he try to actually do with your grateful I.

470
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Speaker 2: Think he was looking. He was admiring Ray's form.

471
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Speaker 3: This is early in my career, and there is a

472
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: natural proclivity to want to compare me to Ray Allen

473
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Speaker 3: in the sense of his form. We were teammates, obviously

474
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: early in my career, and it was the natural probably

475
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: thing to do. But the ball kept going in, and

476
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: you know the ball is going in, you do not

477
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: want to.

478
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Mess with it.

479
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: So obviously, being a top five scorer, top ten scoring

480
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: NBA for a chunk of my career, there was no

481
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Speaker 3: need to mess with it.

482
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Speaker 1: One thing I have now realized when I introduced you,

483
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: I should have said Hall of Famer Michael Right as well,

484
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Speaker 1: because you are part of the redeemed team in the

485
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Congrats on that. Do you have Do

486
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Speaker 1: you have any you know, memorable encounters in the Olympic

487
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: village of your time at the Olympics that jump out

488
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Speaker 1: to you.

489
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all had a healthy dynam McDonald's.

490
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: And this is all of us.

491
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Speaker 3: I'm talk about Roger Federer and Nadall and Phelps and

492
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: Hussein Bowl and we would all hang out in the

493
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 3: village together and Serena and Venus and it was a

494
00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: really incredible, incredible group that year. And then, uh, Kobe

495
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 3: and I engaged in Papa Shot, and uh it's been

496
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: widespread and known, Chris Bosh put it out a number

497
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: of years ago, and uh, but yeah, it was. It

498
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: was the epic battle between Kobe and I and and

499
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: two competitors. Was drew us to our relationship. We had

500
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: not a public relationship, but ours is more private. And uh,

501
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: it just had a fun night of just going at

502
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: it for I don't know, three four hours of Papa Shot.

503
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Speaker 2: It was wild.

504
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: It was the team had left, we had had dinner

505
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: or what have you, and hung out and then him

506
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: and I had just started engaging. And then two hours

507
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 3: later Chris Bosh comes back and me and Kobe a sweaty,

508
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: we're all at it.

509
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: He's like, are these guys still playing?

510
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we're still playing, And uh, and he left

511
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 3: and we and we were just drenched and and just

512
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: laughed and had an incredible time. I think about the

513
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: the the members, with those guys being together at the

514
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame was such an nostalgic moment for all

515
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 3: of us, and all of us are in our forties

516
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: now and have kids and that are grown and and

517
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: doing well. So it was it was wonderful to be

518
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: with all of us together again. Obviously bitterstreet that Kobe

519
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: wasn't there, but it was an incredible night together and

520
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: something I'll never forget.

521
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Speaker 1: Did you have any favorite Olympic sports that you got

522
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: to witness firsthand when you were there that you went

523
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: and checked out?

524
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: Wow, swimming to see Phelps swim was was pretty pretty incredible.

525
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: And table tennis, right, I mean extraordinary, Probably the most

526
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: popular sport at the time over in Beijing when we

527
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: were there, Sure was table tennis, and these athletes were

528
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: just incredible. Beach volleyball it was incredible as well, and

529
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: so we tried to do our best to support our

530
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: other sports as best we could.

531
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Speaker 1: A couple more before we let you go in again,

532
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Speaker 1: we had some people ask a few questions. I love

533
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: this one from Devin Landry, any good Steve Nash stories

534
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Speaker 1: for us, because you did play with Steve at the

535
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Speaker 1: end of your career. I guess that was your final

536
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: year there right in Phoenix.

537
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

538
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: It was such a treat in him and I would

539
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: talk all the time, like what if this would have

540
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: happened ten years ago, ten years.

541
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Speaker 2: Earlier, or five years earlier, twelve. You know, we had

542
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: those conversations a lot.

543
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: Steve was one of the best teammates I've ever had,

544
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: and just as nice as he comes across welcoming to

545
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: mi disrespect for each other. We had played against each

546
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: other for many years, and to finally have played with

547
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: a quality and caliber point guard that he was was

548
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: like a dream from true and I had a blast

549
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: my last year in Phoenix. He made me feel welcomed

550
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: and we had wonderful conversations, and whenever I see him

551
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: to this day, we hug each other and just have

552
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 3: a mutual respect for each other.

553
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I know you're not a

554
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: hot take artist guy by any means, and we're not

555
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: asking for that, not looking for that, but we'd be

556
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't ask you for your thoughts, your

557
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: opinions on the yawnest situation in Milwaukee where you are

558
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: udging with the Bucks and how that's going out, how

559
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: you think it'll play out. You know, the obviously the

560
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: rampant trade rumors and all that. What's Michael Red's take

561
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: on the Honest and Buck situation.

562
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I really don't know.

563
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: I wish I would, I wish I did know, But

564
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's going to do or what

565
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: the team's going to do. This is his thirteenth season.

566
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Speaker 3: I'm a stickler for being with the franchise your whole career.

567
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: Type of guy. I wanted to play my last year in.

568
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Speaker 3: Phoenix to to to prove that I can come back

569
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Speaker 3: from to a CLSA and perform at a high level.

570
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Speaker 2: That was for me.

571
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: But but I think I think he has the opportunity

572
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: to be a lifer in Milwaukee.

573
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Speaker 2: And when you look at the.

574
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Speaker 3: Great players stout the history of the game, the Dirks,

575
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: certainly Kobe, you look at Reggie Miller, you look at

576
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: certain players like that Stockton who stayed with their teams

577
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: throughout their whole career. Something to be said about that.

578
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Speaker 3: So I'm a big fan of him. Sticking to Milwaukee.

579
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Speaker 3: Milwaukee is a great city, a great fan base. They

580
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: will love you to life. Haven't been there for eleven years.

581
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: I kind of grew up there myself, similar to honest

582
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: kind of grew up there. But but he's got it

583
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: made there and and so if he wants to leave,

584
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: that's his choice, or if the team wants to trade,

585
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: and that's their choice. But I think being there is special.

586
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: And yes it's a small market, but I think the

587
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: lasting legacy with the fan base in Milwaukee will never

588
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: ever go away.

589
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always been adamant that he's not going anywhere

590
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 6: this season. He's said it many a times. I've also

591
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 6: been adamant about talking about analysis because I get fed

592
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 6: those podcast clips and I know you've been on Fanalysis before.

593
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 6: If they did you, okay, I'll ask you. Did you

594
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 6: like being on the show? Was it a fun time?

595
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was great. We laughed.

596
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: The interview was really long then we cut it up

597
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: a ton, but we just had a wonderful time. And

598
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: it was the first time that we had a chance

599
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: to talk about, you know, my time here, you know,

600
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: right before the era of Giannis and and and all

601
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: of that.

602
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: I was that era before them, So they I think

603
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: took the time to nasal, took time to kind of

604
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: learn about my journey in Milwaukee. Now.

605
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Speaker 6: Sannasis is also not a hot take guy. I don't

606
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 6: know if he would even have a podcast if his

607
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 6: brother got traded. But if he asked you to be

608
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 6: on the show, then would you come on?

609
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: Of course? Yeah, of course, of course. He's fun man.

610
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: He's a great person. He's fun and and so for

611
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: me being with him was who We looked at our

612
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: phones and our watchers were like, this has been three

613
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: hours and like how did that happen? So just he

614
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: just laughed old time and and uh, he's very knowledgeable

615
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: at the game.

616
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: And uh but we had a we had.

617
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Speaker 6: A ball, yes, respect to that, because I know people

618
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 6: are always on me, Oh that's not that show. I

619
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: don't even see that show. But now we've got Michael,

620
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: I've given it the approval.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

622
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Speaker 5: Did you have like like a Thanasis character during your

623
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Speaker 5: NBA career who was like a good vibes guy who

624
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: just loved having around?

625
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great he's unique. You know, he's the

626
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: modern day mL car right Celtics. All Right, So I

627
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: don't remember having a guy of that elk throughout my

628
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: tenure in Milwaukee. We had guys that were supportive, and

629
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: we had great teammates for sure, But like his passion

630
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: and his energy every game, every game, I don't think

631
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: I've ever seen it before.

632
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, contagious. Who was the funniest guy you ever played with?

633
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Either on Milwaukee or he had some characters. I was

634
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: looking at that roster when you did play with Nash

635
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: in the Suns, like oh, Ro Lopez on that team,

636
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a character.

637
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: So many, so many, so many funny guys. Lebron's one

638
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: of the funniest.

639
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: You know that.

640
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: My time with him during the Olympics really okay, Oh,

641
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: Lebron's hilarious.

642
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: It's NonStop comedy.

643
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: And obviously he was younger than he was twenty three

644
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: at the time, so just full of life and and

645
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: and vigor.

646
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: But still he's still funny when you're around him.

647
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I saw him at the Hall of Fame and we

648
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: were laughing about an inside joke about our hair.

649
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: But we we but he is he is. He is

650
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: one of the funniest people that I've ever encountered.

651
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: Uh in basketball, Uh and and there's some design.

652
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Mason's funny.

653
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so many, so many, so many years with

654
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: him with the Bucks. We would laugh all the time.

655
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: And uh we still talked to this dance my brother.

656
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: But there's been some characters, Irb Johnson, Irban Johnson was hilarious,

657
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: So many great characters throughout the years.

658
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: Eric Strickland comes to mind.

659
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: Uh, just a lot of great, great teammates I have

660
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: not played, but on the Lipper team, I think Lebron

661
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: stood out the most.

662
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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Well, look, we're not gonna keep you three

663
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: hours like this is the Elisara, Mike, appreciate you so

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you guys having me. Always going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's make sure it's not another eight years until

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Speaker 1: all right, Michael Red. Everybody hit the like button, subscribe

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: Okay, few great games last night to dive into here.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Jokic getting his twelfth triple double of

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Speaker 1: the season to lead the Nuggets to the one twenty

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Speaker 1: eight one five overtime win over the Rockets. Now email Yudoka.

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Speaker 1: He had some things to say after this game. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's gonna get fined. He was very critical of

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Speaker 1: the officiating. He said, quote the most poorly officiated game

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Speaker 1: I've seen in a long time. Then he said two

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Speaker 1: officials have no business being out there. And crew chief

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Speaker 1: Zack Zarba, who he was alluding to specific huh, Zach

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Speaker 1: Zarba was acting starstruck. You're seeing all kinds of inconsistent calls,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we would have gotten a few more

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Speaker 1: texts anyway. He was upsets, but particularly Trey I think

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Speaker 1: about on then Thompson getting called for a trip on

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Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior right at the end of regulation that

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Speaker 1: then got Jamal Murray to the line from the player

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Speaker 1: to tie it up. Yeah, and they looked at it

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Speaker 1: and they said, ah, nah, you tripped them, but that

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Speaker 1: one got him heated. There are a couple other ones,

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Speaker 1: of course, but your takeaways from Nuggets Rockets, which was

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Speaker 1: really awesome.

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Speaker 5: This is prime hoops season. I know it was on Peacock,

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Speaker 5: but this was prime hoops early season. You get some

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Speaker 5: mirages late season. We call it Mickey mouse March for

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Speaker 5: a reason. But like December January once we played like

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Speaker 5: twenty games, even though the Nuggets are like super banged up, like,

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Speaker 5: we're getting great performances. That's why we had two great

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Speaker 5: games last night. We've had two Game of the Year candidates.

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Speaker 5: If you ask me this week, between the Spurs Thunder

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Speaker 5: game and then what happened last night, you could just

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Speaker 5: tell both these teams really wanted. This game felt like

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Speaker 5: a measuring stick game between the two of them.

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Speaker 1: Jokic came out aggressive. He was complaining to.

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Speaker 5: The refs all night and felt like as well. The

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Speaker 5: way the Rockets were defending him was pretty interesting. Like

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Speaker 5: start letting him go to work down low, he turns

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Speaker 5: into a scorer, and then they sent help right at

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Speaker 5: the very last second. Kevin Durant five blocks last night,

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Speaker 5: It's just a fun game to watch. I love the

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Speaker 5: post moves or cool kind of game. Jokic and sheng

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Speaker 5: Gun going at each other, bumping and grinding. Shnggun hits

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Speaker 5: the lefty hook over Spencer Jones there with two seconds left.

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Speaker 5: This was just an awesome game to watch front to

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Speaker 5: back and to have it go into overtime. You never

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Speaker 5: know what's gonna happen in overtime. But a great win

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Speaker 5: for the Nuggets. I thought they had some really cool performances.

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Speaker 5: They are so banged up right now. They lost Peyton

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Speaker 5: Watson in this game. The old trunk contusion. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a rare injury when the guy the

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Speaker 5: guys on the broadcaster are like, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: You know what a right trunk is?

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Speaker 4: That is just this butt I mean his glute.

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Speaker 1: I mean more like he took like a nasty I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think I think upper body for trunk

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Speaker 1: from myself, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Nonetheless, they're missing a lot of guys. I run Christian

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Speaker 5: Brown out, Aaron Gordon. Now they lost Watson as well.

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Speaker 5: Spencer Jones hit like a huge shot in the last

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Speaker 5: two minutes of regulation.

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Speaker 1: Just fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: So this is a potential playoff matchup, Like these two

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Speaker 5: teams could easily finish the season two and three in

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Speaker 5: the Western Conference and that would be must watch TV

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Speaker 5: because it was last night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Spencer Jones splashing and that was right after Reed

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Speaker 6: Shepherd did it off the bounce with a huge three

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Speaker 6: and then Durant on the other side. They were just

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Speaker 6: going back and forth. That was super fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the shot making was huge on them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then it goes to that two second left call

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Speaker 6: where Tim Hardaway was air quotes tripped. I mean, it

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Speaker 6: was one of those plays where a guy almost like

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Speaker 6: a guard bringing up a ball where he slows down

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Speaker 6: to the guy behind him. Tim hartiway just kind of

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Speaker 6: slowed down and then Thompson kind of hit him.

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Speaker 4: But it'd be difficult to call.

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Speaker 6: It'd be difficult to overturn though after you call it

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Speaker 6: because he was bumped.

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Speaker 4: But it didn't look like a fel to me.

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Speaker 6: It just happened to hit him and he happened to

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Speaker 6: follow That one point was key, but it was fun

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Speaker 6: going back and forth. This Nugets team, as you said,

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Speaker 6: no Aaron Gordon, no Christian Brown, and they lose Payne

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Speaker 6: Watson in the first half, and they still get there

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Speaker 6: with Spencer Jones playing forty one minutes, Jokic fouls out,

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Speaker 6: fell In Chunis fouls out and they get a win.

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Speaker 6: This was a blow for blow battle. It felt like

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Speaker 6: a playoff game. It felt like a second round series.

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Speaker 6: I'm already thinking this is the second round series and

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Speaker 6: that one of these teams plays okay see. But if

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Speaker 6: Jokic is there against Okac in a conference finals, I

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Speaker 6: would find it hard to bet against him or not

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Speaker 6: be surprised even if you take okay see win. The

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Speaker 6: Nuggets get it done because it's number one, it's the

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Speaker 6: Okich and the number two is Jamal Murray, who looks

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Speaker 6: different this year because he's obviously playing great, but he

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Speaker 6: all so doesn't wait anymore. He used to as you

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Speaker 6: get into your pick and roll with k or you

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Speaker 6: get the ball up top, he used to kind of evaluate,

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Speaker 6: and now he's just go to He looks like a

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Speaker 6: different player, and so is he an I'll start, of course,

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Speaker 6: is he an all NBA player? I think there's an

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Speaker 6: argument for that that he could be a top six

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Speaker 6: card because of how he's bawling, so how they got

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Speaker 6: there man.

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Speaker 4: To the end of this game.

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Speaker 6: Vince Carter was on the broadcast on Peacock and said,

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Speaker 6: this feels like Game three of the playoffs. I said

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Speaker 6: game games three specifically. I've never heard someone say that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what Game three of the Playoffs really

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Speaker 6: feels like. I guess it's like, Okay, you felt each

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Speaker 6: other out for two games, now this one's really important.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Either way? It was wild. Does he Durant block in

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Speaker 4: theo kitchen that fourth quarter? Over and over and over?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Five blocks.

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Speaker 1: It was a fun game. My only thing was I

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Speaker 1: was a little bummed by the Rockets like play call

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Speaker 1: at the end of overtime because we've talked before about

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Speaker 1: sort of cool like Sheng Goon is like their go

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Speaker 1: to guy, and that's fair. Guy's an all star, guy's

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Speaker 1: all NBA. I get it. But they're down three. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: instead of Shanngguon forcing a three point attempt where he

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Speaker 1: like goes out to the three point line and chucked

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Speaker 1: it up and wasn't even close, I'd prefer to see

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to rise up over any defense you're gonna

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Speaker 1: throw out him to get a better look in my

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Speaker 1: opinion to potentially tie the game in overtime. I heard

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Speaker 1: my one thing. I was like, okay, that one, I

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Speaker 1: think we go to Katie. But otherwise the one that

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Speaker 1: you said, that little hook one where he put Jones

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Speaker 1: in the basketball, that was I mean, he's done that

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Speaker 1: all season long, or.

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Speaker 6: Jabarry Smith even Yeah, you could hear Vince Carter was saying,

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Speaker 6: why are they He kind of because Vince Carter, he say,

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Speaker 6: plays a safe He almost said get j Barry Smith

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Speaker 6: the ball, likes get somebody else the ball when they

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Speaker 6: went to Shangdun there.

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Speaker 5: I think I counted it right, but I think Kevin

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Speaker 5: Durant only took three shots in the last twelve minutes

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Speaker 5: of this game, including overtime. They were a little bit

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Speaker 5: too tilted towards Shng Guon. I thought though he was

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Speaker 5: pretty effective as well, and part of the way that

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant gets defended as a defender sticks to him

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Speaker 5: and is not going to give any sort of help.

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Speaker 5: So it helps the Rockets for sure, But there are

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Speaker 5: ways to keep him involved because he does need to

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Speaker 5: take some of these shots. Yeah, because that makes things

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Speaker 5: even easier for Shangun as well. Thought it was also

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Speaker 5: pretty interesting that when Josha Kogi was on the court,

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Speaker 5: the Nuggets went to his zone and it worked pretty well.

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Speaker 5: All Kogi had a good game, but you want those

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Speaker 5: possessions to end up going to a Koji. They tried

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Speaker 5: the zone some when Reed Shepherd and Aaron Holliday were

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Speaker 5: on the court, and it didn't work because those guys

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Speaker 5: can shoot threes.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I loved seeing Reed Shepherd continue to shoot, even though

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Speaker 6: he didn't have a good shooting a lot last night.

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Speaker 6: As five to seventeen, I think, yes, it wasn't hot,

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Speaker 6: but that.

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Speaker 4: Three was huge. He just kept firing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really fun game there. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: go check out at least the extended highlights on the

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Speaker 1: NBA YouTube page if you didn't watch that one on

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Speaker 1: the CACK.

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Speaker 5: My only complaint with this is I don't like the

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Speaker 5: way Kevin Durant's number looks like on those H Town jerseys.

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Speaker 1: It's like a seven and it almost looks like a

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Speaker 1: question mark. It's too blocky, two blocky, way too block

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Speaker 1: Do you like those jerseys in general? I don't think so. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I do.

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Speaker 5: I definitely didn't like him on the Nuggets court. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the Nuggets have such a minimalist court with a kind

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Speaker 5: of a lightwood, very washed out look.

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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, they look better on the rocket Man

880
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: or the Spaceman, you know, city edition court. I guess

881
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: that they can sort of pair with. I don't love

882
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: the h town. I sort of wish it, said Houston said,

883
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're nitpicking.

884
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just quickly on josh Koji not getting it

885
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: done shooting the ball. I wonder about the Houston Rockets

886
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: depth when Tar Easton comes back and who's playing like

887
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: they are missing guys while on the other side you

888
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 6: see Jonas Valentiunis. I thought was really key in the

889
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 6: second quarter when it seemed like Houston was pulling away,

890
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: here comes Yonas Valentiunis. Bang bang bang. You had six

891
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 6: points there in the second quarter that were important. You

892
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 6: only had eight points in this game, but little runs.

893
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: So the Nuggets depth coming through again with so many

894
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 6: freaking guys missing. But it also helps when Jamal Murray

895
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: is just literally almost fifty forty ninety now at this

896
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 6: point of the season. You don't fifty forty five. Excuse me,

897
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 6: excuse me, that's disrespect to Jamal Murray, it's fifty nearly

898
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 6: forty five and nearly ninety percent.

899
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is incredible.

900
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: The other game last night on Peacock, the first one

901
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: the Pistons versus the Celtics, very entertaining as well. Kate

902
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Cunningham once again amazing all game in the clutch, thirty

903
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: two points, ten boards TK as the Pistons beat the

904
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Celtics one twelve.

905
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: This was kind of like NBA Cup semi finals where

906
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference game the Knicks versus the Magic was

907
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 5: awesome and then we had a way better game later

908
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 5: and the night because this was a great game, but

909
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: unfortunately this is the JV Conference once again, a good

910
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: measuring stick game. Celtics have been playing great. They've been

911
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 5: one of the hottest teams in the league. Meanwhile, Detroit

912
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 5: has been at the top of the Eastern Conference from

913
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 5: quite some for quite some time. Here at the start

914
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: of the season, I thought there was great intensity on

915
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: both sides, multiple technical fouls. You got Jalen Brown and

916
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: Kate Cunningham going head to head like who's the best

917
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: guard out here in the East. That was awesome to watch.

918
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 5: The key moments to me though, in the fourth quarter,

919
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 5: Detroit is up ninety six to ninety two. Kate Cunningham

920
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: subs out, who's going to score for Detroit? It was

921
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 5: a Carris Lavert leup. Then Javonte Green hit a three.

922
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: Then Javonte Green made a nice steal and had a

923
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: monster dunk. There's five Javantes out there. Cad checks back

924
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 5: in a seven point lead, like you're happy to add

925
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: to the lead in that scenario, you're happy to keep

926
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: the score the same, sure, So to stretch it out

927
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: was pretty sweet. And then Kate, because he's a clutch dude,

928
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: he went smooth operator mode. He had Austin Rivers singing

929
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: on the broadcast. Hit two clutch jumpers from the mid range.

930
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: The second one was nasty off the spin even shut

931
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 5: up Austin Rivers. That was impressive. Detroit is now fourteen

932
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: and four in clutch games this season. It's because Kate

933
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: takes over.

934
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 6: No doubt, if Austin Rivers singing, Robbie Hummel's got to

935
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 6: be humming alongside. Because I thought it was good. And

936
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 6: I know we've questioned guys sitting right at the bench

937
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 6: and whether.

938
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: It's good, I don't know.

939
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I think it's.

940
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 6: Working on me. It's sort of aged properly. It's aged twell,

941
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 6: I guess I should say it's I think they're good,

942
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 6: those three.

943
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: They have great energy. There's some jokes. I mean, they're

944
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: obviously I don't know. Maybe they're helped out by sitting

945
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: right there on the bench or the court side. They're

946
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: into the game. I don't know what it is, but

947
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't mind it.

948
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're pretty good with their energy.

949
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 6: You'd think they're like right beside each other, talking right

950
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 6: beside you, but they talk back and forth.

951
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: They say, isn't that right, Austin, isn't that right Robbie.

952
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: They are have to do a lot of fun naming

953
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: each other because I do feel like they're always talking. Yeah,

954
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: they do.

955
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: They do.

956
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: No Eagle didn't give them.

957
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: There's never there's never any airtime. Yeah, And I think

958
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: part of that is the makeup of where they're sitting.

959
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: I think when you're all sitting together, it's maybe like

960
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: you're just letting the play by play guy sort of

961
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: handle it. There's a little more breathing like, Yeah, But

962
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: because of where they are located, I think there is

963
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: that they want us. Somebody's always wants to be talking

964
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: and making a point. I'm with you on that, but

965
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: at least they're trying.

966
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 6: They went on they're trying things. The Celtics are trying things.

967
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 6: Throwing the zone at the pistons and worked. In the

968
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 6: second quarter, they were just saying, all right, three point shooters,

969
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 6: figure it out, and they got up. But they pulled

970
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 6: that out in the fourth quarter again with Kate Cunningham

971
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 6: off the bench and Carri Slivert was phenomenal with that

972
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 6: take to the rim, then that Javonte Green three, and

973
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 6: then that j n Ivy block of Jalen Brown literally

974
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 6: guarding him all the way into the paint and blocked him.

975
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: And then that's what led to the Javonte Green smasher.

976
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: To see the depth of those guys huge. That was huge.

977
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 6: That's gonna be the dunk of his career. I don't know,

978
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 6: I'm assuming, but it just feels like that's.

979
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: He's a sneaky athletic guy. Like he sort of like

980
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: shocks me when he like throws something down like that.

981
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: He just doesn't appear to have, yeah, his game. Maybe

982
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: it's those giant, you know, sleeves he's.

983
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 6: Wearing, but I guess he did have some good ones

984
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: with the Bulls because they also said I think it

985
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 6: was Austome Maeves and Robbi Hummel said, this feels like

986
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 6: the Bulls days when he did smash it. But they

987
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 6: got the depth to perform in this particular game, while

988
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: the Celtics.

989
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: Obviously did not.

990
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 6: They were looking for somebody to help out Jaylen Brown,

991
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: who was freaking phenomenal.

992
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: He just looks so good.

993
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 6: This is the best Jalen Brown, I think season of

994
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 6: his career. And then Derek White was helping out, but

995
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: they needed somebody. The three point shots were just struggling.

996
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 6: Sam Houserd did leave this game with an ankle sprain,

997
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 6: so that hurt but might not. Shireman Simon's just couldn't

998
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 6: find a shot. So they were just relying on Brown,

999
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: who played every third quarter minute and then they had

1000
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 6: to send him a little bit in the fourth just

1001
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 6: to get him a breath, but he came out and

1002
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 6: he didn't have it, and Derek quite slowed down at

1003
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: some point. It wasn't Peyton Pritchard's night. They needed somebody,

1004
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 6: while the Pistons got the depth because this they did

1005
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 6: feel like a playoff game.

1006
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: The Pistons. They play so hard, those guys and the

1007
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Celtics guys, like all those guys who went through like

1008
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: they were playing hard. That's what made it a very

1009
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: fun competitive game. I'd like, I am becoming more and

1010
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: more convinced about the Pistons. More I watch I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,

1011
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, I know this is like, it's it's very

1012
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: rare for a team to like just go from not

1013
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: winning a playoff series to like going far, like let's

1014
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: say at conference finals. It's rare. You usually gotta you know,

1015
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: take your lumps, right, lose a first round, losing a

1016
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: second whatever. But man, the more I watch them, yeah,

1017
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: and the cad factor of it at all, Like you

1018
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: guys fight your ass off and then we got Kate

1019
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Cunningham to close. You know, can you replicate it in

1020
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: some of these series. They put up a great fight

1021
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: against the Knicks in the first round last year, so

1022
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm believing. Dan Devine tweeted last night watching it,

1023
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy's just like how he's been sitting down

1024
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: and guarding in the second half. I thought it was

1025
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: a great point. I was jumping off the screen to

1026
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: me as well, because he was. He was really locked in.

1027
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't think of him as like a guy, like

1028
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: defensive minded guy. But he's moving his feet well, forcing

1029
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: tough shots even if he was getting scored on, really

1030
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: putting in the effort. And yeah, my only other note

1031
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: from this game is it's a very minor like geeky

1032
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: yell admit note, But like kid Cunningham is so good

1033
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: at getting off the ball and like timing a fast break.

1034
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: And it's like one of my biggest pepe he watching

1035
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: any level of basketball, like a two on one fast break,

1036
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: a three on two. A guy that just holds onto

1037
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: the ball a beat longer than he needs to, doesn't

1038
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: make the pass over to the wing, kick ahead, whatever.

1039
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: It just drives me nuts, Like the ball is always

1040
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: gonna be faster. Move it to your guys that you

1041
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: should trust. Kay, never is an issue with that. I

1042
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: love it the ball quickly. He gets with the ball

1043
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: so quickly he times them. They're always in the like

1044
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: in the in the perfect spot for a lot of

1045
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: his guys. He's damn good guys leveled up so much.

1046
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: It's fun to watch.

1047
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: My last two things are with regards to Ivy. He

1048
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: was playing good defense, there's no doubt about it. But

1049
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 5: he was basically only able to score in transition. And

1050
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: they already have Ron Holland they got a guy who

1051
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: can score and transition and play defense. They need Ivy

1052
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: to be better in half court scenarios. He's shooting under

1053
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 5: forty percent at the rim. He just I don't know.

1054
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to have any sort of craft in

1055
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: when a defense is set, which is why he's a

1056
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 5: better transition player. So I would like to see that

1057
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: improve because I do think they need a secondary creator

1058
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: when it comes to playoff time, because that's just going

1059
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: to be so much on kid's shoulders and that's a

1060
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 5: bigger ask in a seven game series than it is

1061
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 5: night to night. The second thing was I thought Duran

1062
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: looked like the lights were too bright last night. He

1063
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 5: got completely outplayed by Cada. Only three rebounds on the

1064
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 5: night for Duran. They can't have that. He's got to

1065
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: be their second best player if they're going to go

1066
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: anywhere in the.

1067
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Eastern Extremely quiet night for Joe and Durham last night,

1068
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: dropping the ball all over the place. He was just

1069
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: out there to screen.

1070
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, best screen assists were probably his best performative factor

1071
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 6: last night. I mean, the big, big screens help each

1072
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: other up. But yeah, iv is lacking a little bit

1073
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 6: offensively as well. And that's why Missoula said, let everybody shoot.

1074
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 6: It was Holland and it was Jade and Ivy, and

1075
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 6: so it makes sense, so let them open. But Holland

1076
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 6: contributed enough and j and Ivy, yeah, he he made shots.

1077
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's just only having played for

1078
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 6: a few weeks, but he wasn't completely himself. Yeah, he

1079
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 6: needs to get better.

1080
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: I just think if it's year four for him, and

1081
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: part of it has been injuries for sure, But if

1082
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: it comes down to are we putting Ivy in a

1083
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: trade and that's the thing that'll get it done, they

1084
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 5: shouldn't hesitate to put it.

1085
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 6: It's a little like Jailing Green. It feels a little

1086
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 6: Jailing Green esque to some degree, like you got the

1087
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 6: best athlete out there, an incredible athlete, but if he's

1088
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 6: not producing day in and day out, maybe move on.

1089
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 6: If there is another package, because as you said, or

1090
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 6: another superstar to be able to get because as you

1091
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 6: said about Detroit in the playoffs, they're close, man, I

1092
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 6: mean they feel like they're super close. And if they

1093
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: need to go get in a list type of player.

1094
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: Maybe you package it and it feels a little like

1095
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: what the Rockets did last year, especially in the Eastern

1096
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 6: Conference as you called it, the JUV Conference.

1097
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: Jvley say that they're the undercard.

1098
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not used to the JUV juvenile jv uh

1099
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 6: Being Canadian, we never had that.

1100
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: But either way, about all works.

1101
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram scores twenty eight as the Raptors and a

1102
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: four game skid with the one oh six ninety six

1103
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: win over the Heat. Now, first thing from this game.

1104
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's been an update on him,

1105
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: but Jovich went down with a pretty scary fall there

1106
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: the elbow injury. First quarter. Took a hard, hard foul.

1107
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it was dirty at all. It wasn't

1108
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: from Colin Murray Boyles. Jovich was going for the dunk

1109
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: CMB trying to block it. But Yovic fell real hard

1110
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: and it was like right after he checked into the game. Anyway,

1111
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: they put the brace on his arm. He walked off

1112
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: on his own acord back to the locker room. So

1113
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: we wait to see how severe that is or not,

1114
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: or was it just like cut open. Hopefully it's like

1115
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: broken or anything like that. But the game continued and

1116
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: the Raptors pulled it off. In the end, they held

1117
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the Heat to ninety six points tasks. And look, we

1118
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: had talked about this when he was struggling with like,

1119
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: brandon Ingram, you need to take a break, man, you

1120
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: need to get rested. Well, the Raps had a lot

1121
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: of rest here Ingram did, and I think it looked

1122
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: like a hell or rejuvenated Brandon Ingram last night, going

1123
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: for twenty eight. He was hitting the three ball.

1124
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's questions out there as the NBA Cup scheduling

1125
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: hurting teams. They got so many games on the front

1126
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 6: end of their schedule, but then even if you play

1127
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 6: through those games, it hits ye multiple days off and

1128
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 6: Ingram chilling looking good as a score, there's no doubt

1129
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 6: to get them to the fourth quarter. When it was

1130
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 6: Scotty Barnstein on the offensive end, just everything going through

1131
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 6: him the elbow.

1132
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: Give that ball to him. Make it work out there.

1133
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 6: That guy wherever he is, I mean, he picked part

1134
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 6: of his own passing mid range games to the room.

1135
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 6: Whatever the line of seventeen to ten, six assists, two steels,

1136
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 6: three blocks, he'll be a five by five guy one day,

1137
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 6: it's gotta be. But that run of seventeen to two

1138
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 6: to start the fourth for the Raptors tore it apart,

1139
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 6: and the Heat just looked stinky. It looked like they

1140
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: weren't playing on both ends.

1141
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: Really.

1142
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 6: I thought they struggled offensively, but they allowed so many layups,

1143
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 6: like Greedy Dick had a layup where he literally he

1144
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 6: went from the three point line to the rim nobody there,

1145
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 6: and Greedy Dick isn't the most athletic player. That shouldn't

1146
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 6: just magically happen. So that was disappointing Ingram gonen to

1147
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 6: that third quarter. But if you allow Ingram to work

1148
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 6: excuse me, Barnes to work like that in his office,

1149
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 6: they're going to score points. It was a disappointing fourth

1150
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 6: quarter for the Heat on both sides.

1151
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 5: I think the book is out on the Heat of

1152
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 5: the Officially in December, it's only been a handful of games.

1153
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 5: They're twenty seventh in offense, but if you stretch it

1154
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: back further, the last fifteen games, they're twenty first in offense.

1155
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 5: That's bottom ten. They've been a bottom ten offense for

1156
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 5: half of the season, and that was one of the

1157
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 5: encouraging signs. At the beginning of the year for the Heat,

1158
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 5: it looked like they'd figured out a way to play offense.

1159
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: But they've been completely figured out. It's just too predictable.

1160
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: They try and drive middle all the time, and as

1161
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 5: soon as they drive, guys rotate around the outside.

1162
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: They went on TV and talked about it.

1163
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: Everyone's like, oh, yeah, well, just you're not going to

1164
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: score over the top of us every single time, and

1165
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 5: it's become impossible. They need to figure out a way

1166
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 5: to get some picks involved. There's a reason every other

1167
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: team us its picks.

1168
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tyler hero not playing you know, three of

1169
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: the six games in December is a factor because he's

1170
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 6: the guy. He's their best offensive player. No disrespect to

1171
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: norm but it just looks like, you know what's coming,

1172
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 6: like no one can create for themselves out there. And

1173
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 6: Normany had a you know, he's one for seven in

1174
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, but you know a lot of those

1175
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 6: are sort of in garbage time right at the end

1176
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 6: when it was over. He's a great secondary scorer and

1177
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 6: Heroes big toe has got to get better.

1178
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 4: He's got a big toe contusion.

1179
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 6: As Eric Reid said, you don't really hear that too often,

1180
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 6: old big toe contusion. Eric Creed also called Khalil where

1181
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 6: the slender rim Bender. I don't know how I feel

1182
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 6: about that nickname. Here comes the slender rim Bender. Slender

1183
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 6: just a skinny dunker like.

1184
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: It for the Raps too. He had Mamu and Shed

1185
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: having really phenomenal games off the bench. Mamu got it

1186
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: going in the four corridor. He was good in his

1187
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: late stint, and then Shed was awesome all game long.

1188
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: I think he's just great game management, and I think

1189
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: he sort of relished or enjoyed battling Davion Mitchell, who

1190
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, had some battles up in Toronto against in practice.

1191
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: He said, but eight points tennis sists, three boards for

1192
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Shed plus twenty seven in twenty three minutes for him,

1193
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: So he had a positive impact on the game. Yeah,

1194
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Miami Heat, they're struggling right now. They're real and after that,

1195
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: very you know, hot start maybe surprise some people and

1196
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: they're starting to fall here and he got this another

1197
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: injury here potentially to Yovic got a hero out. Still,

1198
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, enormous, cooled off to some extent a little bit.

1199
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: It's not not a great stretch here. Yeah, six or seven.

1200
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and pretty much corresponds with when a hero came back,

1201
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: though he's missed some time.

1202
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Since his return as well. They need a trade. I

1203
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: just wonder talent. I don't think they seem like they

1204
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: could be one of these teams. I do something here

1205
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: now that more guys are available to be traded before

1206
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: the deadline, We've got a lot of time.

1207
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Moran talk was hot of a Lamello ball talk.

1208
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: I suppose could be a thing.

1209
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, they need a guard, it feels like, but as

1210
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 6: one of those guards gonna be playing beside Tyler Harroll,

1211
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 6: that would be odd.

1212
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson Junior, there's a guy we barely talked about

1213
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: this season. Big Game thirty one points. Cam Spencer talked

1214
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: about Cam Spencer more than we've talked about Jeron Jackson Junior,

1215
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: and fair enough rightfully so he had twenty seven and

1216
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: was talking crap to the Clippers as the Griz beat

1217
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: them pretty handedly here. So, I mean, you think the

1218
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: Miami heater and the dumps right now? How about the

1219
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: La Clippers? Baby, they have not won a home game

1220
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: since Halloween. Oh yeah, that's interesting. You know, we've had

1221
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: multiple holidays go by since then we have and you know,

1222
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: the Into It Dome only cost two billion dollars to

1223
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: make and I can't even win there. They still selling

1224
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: out the wall. I don't know.

1225
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: That's still bumping.

1226
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, but not great.

1227
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: Here.

1228
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 6: Lawrence Frank leading their front office, met with their season

1229
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 6: seat holders yesterday. I wonder what they talked about. They

1230
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 6: also have.

1231
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: That's a sign of the times.

1232
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 5: You would rather meet with anybody else besides Lawrence Frank, Like,

1233
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 5: give me a player, let me see I Viza Zubots

1234
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 5: please sure, Lawrence Frank, I'd rather see Tylo see at

1235
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: the tables, right.

1236
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: You know who you didn't see after the game? Apparently

1237
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: Kawhi Letard and James Harden did not reporters after the game.

1238
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: Maybe Yeah, a very strange scenario. You mentioned that arena,

1239
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 6: the fact that they're going to be hosting an also

1240
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 6: our game in two months, because they're not taking that

1241
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 6: away from them no matter what they come to. When

1242
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 6: it comes to should be a pedalty, it should be,

1243
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 6: it should be, but it ain't happening. It's unfortunate. That

1244
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 6: is abysmal situation. But on the other side, I think

1245
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 6: it was Jared Jackson Junior's best offensive game.

1246
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: This year, I agree, season high, but also five blocks.

1247
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 5: He has been kind of disengaged I think, this season,

1248
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 5: and he has had less well known complaints about the

1249
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 5: way things are going with the coaching staff in Memphis.

1250
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 5: So to see him fired up and playing hard in

1251
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 5: this game. Maybe it's because Jaw's back playing alongside him,

1252
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, but he actually looked really into the

1253
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 5: game and looked like he knew he could dominate, and

1254
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 5: he did dominate. And Cam Spencer another great game for

1255
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 5: this guy, knocking down threes. He's the most egregious T

1256
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 5: shirt wearer in the end. No, it's huge, there's no compression.

1257
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 5: That's not a compression shirt.

1258
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: That is just a pure T shirt. It is massive.

1259
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: It's just like a giant Haynes T shirt or whatever

1260
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: brand it is. He's not the only one. There are

1261
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: other guys that giant ass T shirts. But his looks crazy.

1262
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: This is flapping. But man, the guy was what seven

1263
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: to ten from deep last night, and like I said,

1264
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: he was talking. His shit clip going around is hilarious, funny.

1265
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Can't gard me get him off me? The most disrespectful

1266
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: thing I feel like you can say when you tell

1267
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: the other team, when you tell the other coach and

1268
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: the bench guys, get that guy off me. If you're

1269
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: that guy who's trying to guard him, that's got to hurt.

1270
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Especially its cam Spencer. What do you think Tyler is

1271
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: like it's Jordan Miller? Well, yeah, good. I mean there's

1272
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: a lot of shrug skis for the Clippers, there was

1273
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 1: a lot of Oh.

1274
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: Man, it's like they had no idea what sort of

1275
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 5: defensive coverages they were supposed to be doing. Uh. Kobe's

1276
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: Sanders and Brown seemed to mix things up quite a bit.

1277
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 5: But even a guy like Kawhi Leonard was watching defensive

1278
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 5: coverages I thought all night long, and they just they

1279
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: just look so bad. I think Ziggy completely nailed it.

1280
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: Here your new arena being known for toilets, it's classic.

1281
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: Oh the toilet team.

1282
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: Man, do you think it's still known for toilets even

1283
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: more than the wall or the T shirt cannon that

1284
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: can hit any seat. Those are the two things that

1285
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: I sort of dare I say, have put ahead of

1286
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: the toilet. Wow, a number of toilets, but I haven't

1287
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: been there.

1288
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know that I can hit any seat.

1289
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: Didn't know that video. I mean, that's pretty cool that.

1290
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 6: I mean the video board and the wall or what

1291
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 6: I know it for that that's circular video board, that

1292
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 6: Halo board or that shows shows some bad.

1293
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Turn it off.

1294
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: But when Cam Spencer did start talking trash, that was off,

1295
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 6: like a thirty foot bomb, that was a boll. Yeah,

1296
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 6: so he should be him and Pat Spencer. We talked

1297
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 6: about w W yesterday. Those guys talked junk. They would

1298
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 6: be a good tag team.

1299
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 4: I think.

1300
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 6: They get into it. Yeah, seven for ten yesterday, also

1301
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 6: coming off a game where he's six six from three,

1302
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 6: so he scorched.

1303
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: You get him in the three point contest, it's gonna

1304
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: be there. He likes the sitelnes, he loves them. Yeah,

1305
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: why not? I don't know what is? And then I

1306
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: guess put Stephan Seth in. Let's put as many brothers

1307
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: as we can.

1308
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 5: Okay, Pat Spencer is shooting or Cam Spencer shooting fifty

1309
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: percent from three, he's a walk.

1310
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: He'll be there.

1311
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: He'll be there.

1312
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: Shirt on John Morant hurt again.

1313
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, like got his foot kicked, maybe landed on a foot.

1314
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: There was some sort of foot action. Said he tweaked

1315
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: his ankle. Came out late.

1316
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 5: They're hoping it's not a big deal though, because he

1317
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 5: just came back and you know, he was doing some

1318
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: jump moves. I don't know if he's doing the job

1319
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 5: moves that were used to in the past, but he

1320
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 5: looked a little bit more boosty, I thought than early

1321
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: this season.

1322
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he immediately went off. It's not like he

1323
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 6: sat on his butt and had to wait. He immediately

1324
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 6: like just kept hobbling, although when he got to the

1325
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 6: bench he said, I'm not I'm not sitting on a chair.

1326
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 6: He just got down on the floor. He was that

1327
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 6: much pain. So hopefully it's not that Jurassic. You wouldn't

1328
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 6: think so for a guy hobbling off on his own.

1329
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 6: But yeah, it was good seeing him the last since

1330
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 6: he's returned. He looks it looks more jaiy, you know.

1331
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: And then the final game from last night. We did

1332
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: allude to it when we talked to Michael Read earlier

1333
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: in the show, but the Jazz one to one thirty

1334
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: three over the Dallas Mavericks Cooper Flagg obviously making history,

1335
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: putting up forty two points as an eighteen year old,

1336
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: beating Lebron's record as the youngest to do that. But

1337
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: the Jazz won this game. The Jazz are at ten wins.

1338
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 6: Jazz are ten and fifteen here, eighteen and a half

1339
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 6: or something.

1340
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, they're looking good to make that. And Kiante

1341
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: George after what he had a thirty nine point game

1342
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: the other night, Yeah, thirty three, excuse me, thirty seven

1343
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: last night. Lowry markin and added thirty three that helped

1344
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: them top the Mavericks there in overtime. I'm just saying,

1345
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: man the noticer, as Trey Kirby goes by in the

1346
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: power rankings on our substact page, Well, I'm noticing the

1347
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz a little bit more now. I'm liking what

1348
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying them.

1349
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Jazz have been noticed, Brooklyn Nets have

1350
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 5: been noticed.

1351
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, lately you got to pay attention to these bad teams.

1352
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 5: This is actually a pretty entertaining game because both teams

1353
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 5: are like, we're not playing defense.

1354
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need to do that.

1355
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: No Walker Kessler for the Jazz, Gafford returning from injury,

1356
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 5: he only played like twelve minutes or something like that. No,

1357
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis. So it was just a layup festival for

1358
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: both teams. Sixty four points in the paint for the Mavericks,

1359
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 5: sixty six for the Jazz.

1360
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Five guys in this game scored twenty five or more.

1361
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: That was awesome. You're highlights, that's all it was.

1362
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 5: If you could make a move and get around to

1363
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 5: your defender, you're getting a layup in the hoop. I

1364
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 5: think both teams basically shot over fifty percent. I think

1365
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 5: the Mats were one shot short. Don't get on me.

1366
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: Okay, the Mavericks went, the Mavericks went. I was cold

1367
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: in overtime. They went one for nine, and overtime big

1368
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: reason why they lost here.

1369
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you take a look at any Jazz game,

1370
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 6: it feels like you look at the box score, you

1371
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 6: see somebody scored one hundred and forty points. It feels

1372
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 6: like every single one of their games, there's lots of

1373
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 6: points scored in their games for them and for the

1374
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 6: other team. It is so interesting with Dallas and what

1375
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 6: they do here coming to the trade deadline, because we've

1376
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 6: talked about you got to deal with Anthony Davis. This

1377
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 6: is the time to get bad and use that pick

1378
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 6: that you have, especially when Ad is out and Gaffer

1379
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 6: playing limited minutes and Derek lively out for the season. Yeah,

1380
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 6: but Kyrie's coming back. You'd assume at some point and

1381
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 6: he's gonna want to play. But do they pull the

1382
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 6: plug and say, Kyrie, don't save us. Man, you could

1383
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 6: have saved this in overtime, that's for sure, and help

1384
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 6: us win that game. But maybe they have this meeting

1385
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 6: and say we need to get bad Kyrie.

1386
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: Sorry.

1387
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: It is interesting.

1388
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 5: Christian Clark over at the Athletic is reporting that they

1389
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 5: want to stay competitive through the end of the year. So,

1390
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 5: I mean, there was talk that Kyrie could come back

1391
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 5: by the end of December.

1392
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if that will happen.

1393
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: On the flip side of things, the Jazz have a

1394
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 5: top eight protected pick that goes to the Oklahoma City

1395
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 5: Thunder right now.

1396
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: They need to start.

1397
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 5: Losing market and you're getting a finger injury playing frisbee

1398
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 5: or something like that. Because I don't know what's going

1399
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: to happen in the second half of the season. The

1400
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 5: Thunder can't get two lottery picks.

1401
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: They can't.

1402
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this result should have gone the other way

1403
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 5: for the sake of everyone involved.

1404
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: I think maybe, yeah, the Jazz and the Clippers, somehow

1405
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 6: they should involve the Clippers draft pick.

1406
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 4: I don't know in the.

1407
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 6: Three point contest that All Star weekend, like it should

1408
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 6: just be up for whoever wins, because it is. It

1409
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 6: is ridiculous, juice the three point that's okay, Yeah, something

1410
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1411
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 4: It's just such a weird scenario where.

1412
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 6: They that whole thing around the Clippers won't be answered

1413
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 6: until post All Star Game. There's no doubt about, you know,

1414
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 6: the Quhi Leonard situation, which is strange.

1415
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 4: It should be done.

1416
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: Once Cooper Flag back to him, Like I said, new

1417
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: record as an eighteen year old to score forty plus

1418
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: points in a game. But I got a little trivia

1419
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: here for you guys. Cooper Flag's forty two points tied

1420
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: for fourthmost by a teenager in NBA history. So he

1421
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: accomplished the forty two last night, a week before turning

1422
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. So you want to take a stab

1423
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: at the other nineteen year olds. They're all nineteen year

1424
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 1: olds to have more than forty two points in a game.

1425
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: Luca, No, no, it's.

1426
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: A good guess. How about Brandon Jennings.

1427
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 5: No, no, he wasn't in his teens when he had

1428
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 5: fifty five or whatever.

1429
01:04:59,320 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1430
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 5: To Actually, that's weird. You're right, was so early in

1431
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 5: the season. But I don't know how old he.

1432
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: I guess I guess he wasn't unless ESPN research is

1433
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: wrong here, but fact checked them. Please know he wasn't.

1434
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: He could have been twenty.

1435
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 4: Okay, was that one year in Italy? I'm going to

1436
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: tell Lebron.

1437
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: Lebron did forty three when he was just before turning

1438
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: twenty basically, and then the other two are fun. I'm

1439
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: just going to give you a one word hint. Trey

1440
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Kerby will get it right away. Survivor Cliff Robinson. Cliff

1441
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: Robinson in nineteen eighty went for forty five points as

1442
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old and was nearly twenty. He was

1443
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: like turning twenty like in three days, and then two thousand.

1444
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: What's that? I think it's the other different Cliff Robinson. Yeah,

1445
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Actually, now that I say second, yeah, play

1446
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: for Long was another Cliff Robson. Okay, that older Cliff Robson.

1447
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: But twenty twenty four. I thought you guys might get this.

1448
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: He was a nineteen year old. He was obviously a rookie.

1449
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: It was shocking for draft. He scored forty four points

1450
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: at nineteen years old and one hundred and nineteen days.

1451
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four draft was last.

1452
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 6: Year, But it could have been a twenty three draft,

1453
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 6: right because he said the year two twenty twenty four, Yeah.

1454
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: Could have been, but I bet it was a twenty

1455
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: twenty four. This guy is uh sky, Oh, this guy's

1456
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: birthday is tomorrow. He turns twenty one tomorrow, I mean

1457
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: twenty one years of age tomorrow.

1458
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 2: Wow.

1459
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big number. So it was a rookie year.

1460
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, who was a big scorer last season?

1461
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: So it was two years ago though, Just so you

1462
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: know what twenty three twenty four it is. Oh so

1463
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: twenty three drafts, twenty three draft, I'll tell you right now.

1464
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: He was a second round pick.

1465
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 6: Oh respect respect drafted.

1466
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: When did Michael red get drafted? Was he forty fifth overall?

1467
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: This guy may have been the exact same. Nope, Michael

1468
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: Radward forty third. This guy went forty fifth overall.

1469
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1470
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: Give me a conference here, yeah, Western conference. I'll give

1471
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: you his jersey number, forty five. Not Donovan Mitchell. No, No,

1472
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: this is tough.

1473
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 4: Kyle might be Cam Witmore No, No, but you've.

1474
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: Got uh no, no, I can't win more. I thought

1475
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: you said, think you said Cam Spencer for a second,

1476
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: he's on that team Houston Rocket number forty five on

1477
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets Camp Spencer, I said, oh, Brisley's Gg Jackson.

1478
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: There you go, Gg Jackson the second score forty four

1479
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: as a gay, I don't forget about.

1480
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when he got interviewed by Shack.

1481
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 6: I guess he got on TNT.

1482
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all excited.

1483
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there you go. Cool, cool, well, good game

1484
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: well Cooper flag uh Eclipse the forty five from the

1485
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: original Cliff Robinson in his team twenty I think so, yes,

1486
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: yes he could do it this year, probably not before

1487
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: he turns nineteen, but yes he could do it and

1488
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: probably will at some point. Okay, bye, well, Bye of

1489
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: the Night is once again Ho Boy of the Night.

1490
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: Check this out. It's sponsored by another Ho brother. We

1491
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: had Andrew Hoe on yesterday's show. Now we got Christian Hoe.

1492
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: His brother wanted to sponsor this thing.

1493
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: Yes, I've seen Christian so Ho.

1494
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: Boy of the Night goes to jokich'sier. Ho from last

1495
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: night recorded his twelfth triple double thirty nine points fifteen

1496
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: boards tennis sists, four stocks there, two steals, two blocks

1497
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: five to nine from deep eight of eleven at the

1498
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: line thirteen to twenty seven overall. Wait to go, Yokich.

1499
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: Nice photo one game on tonight task so we know

1500
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: it's our pick of the game.

1501
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 6: Spurs NIX NBA Cup Action. Somehow the Knicks are the

1502
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 6: home team. Who knows they're playing in Las Vegas.

1503
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 4: It's a small line. It's two and a half point

1504
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 4: line that the Knicks have to win by three or more.

1505
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 6: But basically we're picking who's winning. Trey and I have

1506
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 6: the Knicks skeets. You're taking the Spurs. Why are you

1507
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 6: taking the San Antonio Spurs here an NBA Cup action?

1508
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: Because they're good?

1509
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Because they said it yesterday, okay, and they're good? Yes man.

1510
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: You know, I gained a little more confidence when Michael

1511
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: red was sort of leaning towards taking the Spurs tonight.

1512
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: So there you go, Nice. I really I don't care.

1513
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: I just want to really I want the Cup final

1514
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: to be as entertaining as some of these games leading

1515
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: up to it has been. I hope we get a

1516
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: close game between the Spurs and the Knicks.

1517
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 4: Trey, why are you taking the Knicks?

1518
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: Knicks are sixteen and six against the spread this year.

1519
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 4: Jeez, I'm all about that spread.

1520
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 6: And it's a bit of an NBA Cup type of

1521
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 6: game for you guys because you're both four of seven,

1522
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 6: four and seven this season this month, I should say

1523
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 6: not this season, and you know December is a long month,

1524
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 6: but there are going to be days off.

1525
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get funky.

1526
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1527
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 6: And I in part took the next because I feel

1528
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 6: like they're going to be playing for each other.

1529
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 4: Jillen Brunzel was asked what.

1530
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 6: Are you doing with the money by our man James Edwards?

1531
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 6: Do you have planned to give it to people beyond

1532
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 6: the team, part of your team staff and all that.

1533
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 6: He's like, oh, yeah, way to ruin it, man, we're

1534
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 6: doing it. Yeah, well do you You didn't have to

1535
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 6: admit it, but but he did, and.

1536
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: They see what Town said. No, he's given I believe

1537
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: he said he's giving all of his winnings to Dominican Republicans.

1538
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 4: Like youth sports or something right where his mom was from.

1539
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, you put that on the line. It's kind

1540
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: of good. You gotta go back down.

1541
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 4: That's a good call.

1542
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 6: That's a good call, and he'll definitely be playing for

1543
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 6: the demand or the International All Star team right now

1544
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 6: that if you're doing this, you don't do that.

1545
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Man, we don't know he will do. Hey, those voting

1546
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: for starters, I guess whatever that means at this point,

1547
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: it starts tomorrow. You can start filling out your ballots

1548
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, on Wednesday. So your starters for both the

1549
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: East and Conference.

1550
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 4: Are the paper ballots dead?

1551
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: I believe yeah. I don't think we have any more

1552
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: paper ballots. I don't think you can go to an

1553
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: arena and ask for a ballot to fill out and

1554
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: put it in a box somewhere, all done on your

1555
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: app tasks.

1556
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 6: I was thinking I wanted one. I know you're going.

1557
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 6: I just want to feel it. I just want to

1558
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 6: I want to click, clack those chads, popa chat.

1559
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: You more than anyone's mister recycle So, I mean, I

1560
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't think you would want the wasted paper ballots.

1561
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 6: Well I would recycle it. Well, I know you would,

1562
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 6: they I would frame it. I just want a paper ballot,

1563
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 6: a frame.

1564
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what the last paper ballot was though. How

1565
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: long have we been without actual paper ballots? I don't know.

1566
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: I would I've been a couple of years. Yeah, probably right,

1567
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: memorabilia to hang on ballot.

1568
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 5: I'll be voting for Tyrese Maxie. That's a guy I'm

1569
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 5: going to put a vote in.

1570
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, oh yes, you tipped your hand in our

1571
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: sub stack power rankings that if you are to see

1572
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: a voter to for maybe Tyrese Maxi in timbon tempts

1573
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: MVP straw Pole, that's from you, at least me. That's

1574
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: from me. I did more than one. I was wondering

1575
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: will he get more than one vote? He was my

1576
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: fifth choice?

1577
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, But there's a lot of cases to

1578
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 5: be made for a fifth choice.

1579
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like Wemby and Giannis could be there. Yeah, played

1580
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 1: a ton of games.

1581
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jalen Brown and Maxie are like kind of similar cases,

1582
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 5: as is Jalen Brunson. So choose who you want, but

1583
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 5: it should be Maxie. I'm hoping I'm the only one.

1584
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: As like like it says like an additional additional because

1585
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: it won't be one that's me.

1586
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1587
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was tough deciding who's fifth because there's lots

1588
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 6: of cases.

1589
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 4: Do you want to share your selection as my number five?

1590
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 6: It was a Jalen. It was definitely a Jalen. I

1591
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 6: wouldn't be Yeah, no, brow be Brandon, No I did go,

1592
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 6: I said be. It could be brown anyway. I hope

1593
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 6: you're going to the arena next, I think out of

1594
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 6: all of us, to the Hawks arena, Yes, Fortress.

1595
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,480
Speaker 1: So I'm going Friday night to hopefully see Wemby play.

1596
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 4: Get that ballot if they have them. They probably won't.

1597
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll last for a ballot. Look for a paper,

1598
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: our guy or Kyley, you have a ballot in There's

1599
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: no way, there's no way. The like percentage of people

1600
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: that go to let's just use Atlanta for example, on

1601
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: Friday night. How many people that are walking through that

1602
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: gate on Friday night don't have a phone is what

1603
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: we're getting at here. Very few. I would I almost

1604
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: could say nobody at this point. How would you even

1605
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: get in? You get at I guess it could come

1606
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: with someone that would scan you in. Yeah, yeah, sure,

1607
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay.

1608
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 5: Man.

1609
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 6: Kids don't have them children yet, other adults, yeah, they

1610
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 6: all got them fourteen plus.

1611
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 5: You're talking ninety nine phone. Maybe there's a crusty.

1612
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: Old dad out there that I yeah, pop a chat

1613
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: all right before we go. We got a box from

1614
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: the Spurs, a team I'm going to see on Friday

1615
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: night here in Atlanta, and uh, we're gonna unbox it

1616
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: here on the show. Is that the plan?

1617
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: That's the plan.

1618
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, We've got a gift from the Spurs and Ledger. Okay,

1619
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 6: there's lots of stuff in here, and and it actually

1620
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 6: has a speaker in the box, so listen.

1621
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 7: In Stori has a ride.

1622
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, please return of the Max. Wow, And there's lots

1623
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 6: of cool stuff. I'll pass this around you guys.

1624
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 4: Check this.

1625
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 6: Check this jersey. You could be wearing this on Friday

1626
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 6: when you go see the Spurs. Here turn my back

1627
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 6: on my Hawks City Edition.

1628
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: Well, these are sick jerseys. They are Oh man, this yeah,

1629
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: this might pick you guys. Wow, that's awesome. There's Wenby

1630
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: on the back web fiestas the Ledger.

1631
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 6: There's so much City Edition gear here. I'll give you

1632
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 6: your choice of the next because it's got you know,

1633
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 6: the rope across the yeah cross.

1634
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: You put a hat on like that you're voting with

1635
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: the paper ballot.

1636
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 4: But this is a badass shooting shirt as well.

1637
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: That is that is cool.

1638
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 4: That's super nice. Well, let's see, let's see get in there.

1639
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: This is awesome.

1640
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: It's got it all. We got it all here. Pretty stats.

1641
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: Turn around for everybody. Those colors, what do you even?

1642
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: What color is that? Teal?

1643
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, this is this is

1644
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 5: my number one color combination, orange.

1645
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: Pink and teal. Wow, that's my signature color combination. Not

1646
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people know that.

1647
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 4: Shouts to Ledger and yeah, we got three items.

1648
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1649
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: Maybe give me a paper ballot please. I'd like to

1650
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: vote for the old school player. You're voting for Sean Elly.

1651
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've also got the City Edition court here in

1652
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 6: the box.

1653
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. Return of the Mac is over. I

1654
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: thought it would play the entire song, but it is cool.

1655
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1656
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 6: Also given to us by a Ledger. You want to

1657
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 6: keep your crypto safe. They've sold or given out eight

1658
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 6: millions devices, eight million devices, zero hacks. So you pair

1659
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,879
Speaker 6: it with the Ledger wallet phone app. It's the best defense.

1660
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 6: So get in there with deals if you want, go

1661
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 6: to ledger dot com. They've got bitcoin vouchers going on,

1662
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 6: but do it with Ledger.

1663
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: We're called no dunks. Ledger might as well be called

1664
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: no hacks. I should consider that nice. I should be

1665
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: their tag, the Ledger Nano Gen five. These guys in there,

1666
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: you're in the crypto game a little bit, aren't your TK,

1667
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: not your keys, not your crypto? Okay, how about that? Well,

1668
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: the piece of the floor, this is game used wood. Oh,

1669
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: it's like game used wood.

1670
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.

1671
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: You're just showing us photos. Man, there's the actual little piece.

1672
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that was in that box.

1673
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 5: Hey Poppa, I feel like Garth right now because I

1674
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 5: like those little wood courts.

1675
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 6: It's pretty neat because I've had the old Raptors one,

1676
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 6: the original piece of the court from literally when the

1677
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 6: Huskies play the New York Knicks in the forties.

1678
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's pretty freaking cool.

1679
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: Question, would this be a taboo of me to wear this?

1680
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: Weben Yama jersey down to the Hawks game on Friday night?

1681
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: And now I say this because I'm sitting in a

1682
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: Hawk's members seats. He's very kindly. I got Cliff offered

1683
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: them up. Hu, that's a that's poor taste.

1684
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 4: I think.

1685
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean fan. Well, I mean I'm not a Spurs fan.

1686
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a Ledger fan. Now after this,

1687
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: I think was here for it would work. Well, it

1688
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: fits over your black sweater. I no, I do like

1689
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: the look you stay warm here in the winter. Yeah,

1690
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: it's cold right now. That's a nice jersey and nice jersey. Yeah,

1691
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1692
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 6: I think even if you're a Hawks fan, you have

1693
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 6: to look at that and say it's a nice jersey,

1694
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 6: respect jersey.

1695
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll see what happens Friday night. Thank you,

1696
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. All right, we'll call it there.

1697
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: Lots of fun here today. Thanks to Michael Red for

1698
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: jumping on with us. That was a treat. Hopefully we'll

1699
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: get him back on talk to him more about the

1700
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: NBA season later on. As I said, I'll add the

1701
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: link to his YouTube page in the show notes. Go

1702
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: check that out, especially that one he posted. I think

1703
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: you guys obviously got a chance to watch it him

1704
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: breaking down with Tea that game against uh against the

1705
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: Lakers obviously where he went for Did he go for

1706
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: forty five? I think he did in that game the

1707
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: Kobe game? Yeah, yeah, yes he did.

1708
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1709
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a lot of fun. So thanks to

1710
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: Michael Red. Thanks to you for joining us. Hit the

1711
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: like button, subscribe. Thanks the Ledger too for the all

1712
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: the goodies here. More of this, please keep sending in

1713
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: things unboxing. Did you struggle with the unboxing because you

1714
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: know we've seen people do it online trying to record it.

1715
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that, but like you know,

1716
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 1: you were holding it. There's like a lot of things,

1717
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: so song and dance, unboxing something. He balanced it on

1718
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: your shoulder like a boombox. All those years of balancing

1719
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: things at parties finally.

1720
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,799
Speaker 4: For this moment. Yeah, it felt good. It's a nice box,

1721
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 4: very nice box. I didn't you didn't have to deal

1722
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: with too much stuff.

1723
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: Clover bros.

1724
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 7: Have you heard it here first, have a great time,

1725
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 7: turn up, Love you guys, awesome.

1726
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us.

1727
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 6: And remember Rudolph the Michael red nosed Reindeer loved being

1728
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 6: on our show. I wonder if he comes up with

1729
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 6: that for the first kids said he has kids. It's

1730
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 6: a perfect Christmas song for the fam right brace today people,