WEBVTT - Hocus Pocus with Danielle Perez 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.440 On the Beck Doll Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.200 have women inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.520 husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy zef in 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.080 best start changing it with the beck del Cast. Hey, 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.320 beck Tol Cast listeners, It's me Caitlin jam and we're 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.600 here to once again remind you about our new Patreon. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.159 That's right, we started a Patreon page, which, if you 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.080 haven't heard of, it is a subscription service that allows 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.000 you to pledge us five bucks a month and get 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.400 to you to telling them to extra episodes of the 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.120 Bectel Castle for patrons only. 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True, that's the line I have ready today. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.919 I'm sick today, and my name is Jamie and my 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:19.120 name is Caitlin, and this is the Bechtel ship Man. No, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.160 it's okay, you started it going go ahead. Oh, I 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:23.880 was just gonna say it's the Bechtel Cast. And it's 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.120 our podcast about the portrayal of women in movies. That 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.639 there's no there's no getting around it. There's nothing else 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.959 that could be about. God, what a day? What a 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.960 dramatic day. So you're sick, I'm sick. I'm like and 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.160 I'm like in a floaty phase of sick where I'm 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:42.480 just like, I'm googling Cathy and Jamie anywhere and everywhere. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.079 I'm not sick, but I mean physically, emotionally and mentally, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.560 I'm not doing great. But who is Hey, you know 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:58.440 has been a trial? A trial? You said, there's there's 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.920 two shows on television right now with Kevin in the title. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.960 You know, we're all suffering, suffering. What is it? Kevin 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.359 Can Wait? Kevin Can Wait a season two which actually 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.880 apparently is supposed to be kind of wild because they 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.880 kill off Kevin James's wife at the end of season one, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.320 and then season two there's a time jump in there 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.720 and it's like, now he's dating Leah Remini. It's like, oh, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.680 it's just King of Queen's again. But there and then 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.120 the other one is called Kevin Save the World. Probably 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.120 that's not exactly what it is, but it's about something 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:34.160 about it's a white guy and they're like your God, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.280 which is like, do we need to be perpetuating that? 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.320 Probably not anyways, lots of Kevin based entertainment, No thanks 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.240 said before. Yes, not a big fan of most Kevin's. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.800 I'm sure there are exceptions. We as a nation don't 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.040 respond well to Kevin's. I don't know why they keep trying. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:57.960 Kevin Spacey is the worst actor available and any given time. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.360 I liked him in seven, but mostly because you don't 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.400 see him from most of the movie. Anyway, Um, let's talk. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:10.960 It didn't pass the backtel Castle. I was literally lifted 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:16.000 it from us. Let's introduce our guest. Let's do it. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.520 She is a member of five Gap Comedy. She runs 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:25.520 a show called Gentrification. She's a hilarious comedian. Danielle Perez. Hey, ladies, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:31.839 thanks for coming. Oh man, that intro was intense. Well, yeah, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.520 there's a lot. We're all mentally ill or maybe I 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.000 don't want to project mine everyone, but I think we are. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.679 We're all dealing with PTSD in some way, shape orfore 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:51.599 very sick. The proliferans proliference. Wow, there it is. Let's 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:57.120 just sure. Lots of Kevin's that's too much. And then 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.360 the Chris is like, don't even Pine, get out, like 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.720 we gotta getta you have nice teeth, more like Hen's 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.760 worth list. There you go, there you go. That is 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:12.159 another Chris. We don't need Chris, come on, Chris's Kevin's 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:17.000 con sit down, Conna leaves Kevin Kevin conn Kevin, who's 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.400 that Entourage? Right? Too many? And I think his name 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:26.560 was I his name was e No, it was like 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.240 I thought it was another scene. It was like, you 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:33.599 know what, Eric, Eric whatever. The fact that I know 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.800 any Entourage character makes me want to die. Kevin James, Kevin, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:43.599 Kevin Costner, Kevin's Ken of all time, Kevin Costner. You 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.640 think I hate Ken? I really spacey? I say, I'm 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.280 a I'm way more of a fan of space You. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.760 Len Klein, I like, oh, I do like Kevin and 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.240 his daughter is like one of my favorite musicians, which 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.360 ones Kevin. Kevin Klein is the voice of Phoebus in 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:03.479 A Hundredbag of Notre Dame. Why other things I know 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:08.000 I'm from. He's in Sophie's Choice, He's in a fish 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.320 called Wanda good for him, some other stuff. Anyways, let's 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.440 talk about movies, like specifically the one that we're supposed 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:21.680 to be talking about, spooky creeky door Halloween months, I'm 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:29.120 going to make a Jack olint or no, Alfred Molina 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:36.240 with a fever. I shouldn't have a knife. You're like, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:41.240 this is the Halloween. We just end it all. Let's true, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.880 this is probably the last Halloween. So well, it's been 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.120 pressing episodes. So thinking by yourself this time last year 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.960 and you're just like, what, who is that? Oh my god? 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.279 I was in such a better place. Yeah, I was 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.440 in a horrible place this time last year and somehow 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.600 still better. Like, yeah, I was in Portland for a week, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.360 and then I was in Minneapolis for a week. I 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.840 was I was on the road traveling, and now I'm 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.920 just sleeping in my car because I gave someone a 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.880 ride and then they put my wheelchair in the back 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.120 seat and I was like, oh, well, I can't get 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.160 out of my car now. Oh my god, Like scho 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.760 why didn't you call someone because it was like one 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.960 in the morning. I guess, yeah, that's true. Caitlin is 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.960 so irritated. She's like, we're very off track. We're very 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:36.040 off bab I know that that's the vibe I'm giving off. Hey, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:42.280 what a time to talk about hocuspoke Focus. Daniel, what's 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.600 your relationship your history with this movie? I liked it 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.800 a lot. I don't think I saw it in theaters 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.720 because I was like, it came out of ninety three, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.920 I was like eight. I think I just saw it 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.360 at a friend's house or something like that. But I 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.240 remember seeing it when I was like little and liking 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.840 it a lot because I liked Witches. Sure, which, when 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.400 did you foresee it on Disney Channel in middle school 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.080 at a sleepover, saw it again sometime in high school, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.320 then saw it again at your house law side. Yeah, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:18.040 that's cute, so it was fun fun viewing. Yeah, I 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.920 didn't see it for the first time until well into adulthood. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.080 I saw it for the first time like four years ago. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.160 What was the situation? Um put us put us there? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.400 My my my best pal j T, who you might remember, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:36.400 friend of the episode. He's like, how have you never 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.120 seen hocus Pocus? I think he had it on DVD 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.000 and we're like, I don't remember if it was Halloween 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.480 time or not. But he was just like, there was 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.320 a sense of urgency that I needed to see it. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:51.280 Right away, I like around Halloween time as an adult. Yeah, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.520 all right, here's the recap for hocus Pocus. There are 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.560 these three witches, their sisters that Middler, Cathin and Jamie 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:05.000 twenty nine year old Sarah Jessica Parker Sanderson sister there, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.400 which is in the height of like Salem witch Child, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:13.840 like seventeen century Salem, Massachusetts, and they're conjuring this spell 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.840 so that they can live forever. It literally sounds like 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.920 a biopic of Madonna. I'm going to drink the blood 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.720 of young people so as to live forever. And so 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.520 there's this one child who they've kidnapped and they have 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.280 this potion and they're about to like try to live forever. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.080 But all these people come they're like, no, we're which 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.320 is well, it's her brother. Her brother tries to be 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.280 like hero, tries just save her. But then all the 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.880 townspeople are like wearing a white blouse like everyone. That's 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:46.280 how you know everyone's wearing a blouse is which is 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:51.040 very nineties of him, even though it's coppening at it's weird. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.880 This is the nine version of He's like a JTT 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.200 but olden times that's what talking. And I was like, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.240 wait is that? Because I was thinking I was like, yes, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.839 it's Devon's all on this. I was like, no, it's 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.000 another adorable white boy with like that same kind of 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.600 bowl hair. It's the dirty bond hair and the blue 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.400 eyes that was if you didn't features, yeah, like a 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.360 sheer blouse. So like, what is going on? Like? Am 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.680 I turned on right? Like this is happening? I know? 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.600 It's like it's like I'm an adult woman when he's 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.360 so clearly a child. But it's like he's a cuteiet cute, 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:31.040 he's cute. Yeah, he's fine. Um wow, Okay, it's too 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:38.320 good for So the townspeople come and they hang the witches, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.960 but they cast this spell that if a virgin lights 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.360 a candle on All Hallows Eve, they'll be able to return. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.280 So and then they turned to the boy who tries 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.440 to save his sister into a cat Sachary Banks. He 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.120 goes from having two nipples as a human to eight 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.120 nipples as a cat. This has been cat facts with 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.920 Caitlin early and then so she's like, don't give me 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.480 that blast because those sweetness done by the cat version 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.960 of the twelve year old boys as a cat? Are 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:14.160 you were you also into the robin Hood, the Disney 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:20.120 animated robin Hood where their foxes. No, I'm not animals 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.880 name let's tell how Yeah he was. Let's get the 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.120 record straight. I'm not attracted to animals. Just became the first. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.400 I can't believe I have to clarify this, but I 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.160 want you all to know. I literally for talking about 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.720 cat nipples. That's like a really hard argument today, fair point. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.880 I'm just explaining scientific facts. Okay. So that's the first 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.480 seven minutes of the movie. Flash forward to three years later. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.720 It's still set in Salem, Massachusetts. There's this boy, but 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.240 this time they're time's laid back in from cat He's 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.600 Los Angeles? Was that l a Hollywood? I like it? 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.480 Then then they got those little meathead Massachusetts boys are 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:16.160 like California, California anyway. So the new kid, Max Dennison, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.640 moved to town. He's like, oh, this Salem, which stuff 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.120 is stupid, but he there's a hawkerl in his class 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.160 who likes it. So he's like, Okay, I'll be into it. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.120 And he has a little sister, Danny, who she's like birch, Yeah, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:34.760 just adorable lipstick. She's got the he looks so good 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.880 throughout the entire film. I'm like, stop it. Who did 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:43.160 her hair man? Who did her makeup? Litick banana, angelic 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.079 and beautiful. Yeah, I didn't tussle, just perfectly tussled throughout 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.640 the entire film. I never realized, like the last time 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.520 I saw this like ten years ago, like I wasn't 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.520 able to appreciate it was thora Bert. Now we know 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.880 she steals the show. She's so good. Yeah, she's really 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.840 still the show. She's great. Man. So Max is like, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.600 I'll fine, I'll take you trigger treating because it's Halloween night, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:14.040 and they stumble upon the Allison Hot Girl's Hot Alison's 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:19.240 house and waiting the staircase is a ball Gownd saying, oh, hi, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:25.040 like this is would you like some cider? Like okay, question, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.600 we've all been trigger treating. Who the funk gets invited 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.640 into a people's homes when they do that and asked 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.559 if they want cider? Like that just like it happens 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.440 at all. There's that moment where it's like, oh, they're 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.480 rich people that probably make us drink cider and sure enough, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.600 like is that a stereotype for rich people? People off 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:51.920 the street drink of their cider. Why are they and please? 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.480 I saw their house and they were unpacking. They look 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.680 pretty loaded to me too. Has a staircase in his 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:03.240 bedroom right a drum. He has a new Nike cross trainers. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:11.199 They're facts. Salem is a very wealthy town, is it? Yeah? 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.440 So anyway, I guess it was really funny finding out 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.920 what Disney thinks like rich people are like when when 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:23.080 the baseline of all their families is already wealth Anyway, 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.040 so they convinced. Max is like, oh, what an opportunity 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.120 for me to bond with hot Allison. If we go 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.600 to the witch's house. Do we talk about how he 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.720 humped humped the pillow? He did not know? That's a 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.920 great entrance in this movie is so crazy. She's hiding 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.960 in the closet and then she walks in on Max 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:47.240 because he gets home. Alison local history is so interesting 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.960 out comes story and she's like, I was like, are 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.600 you guys going to hook up? What's happening? That was wild? 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.160 She gets like where the pillow was? Just like I'm 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.360 Alice and used me like, oh no, that's your brother. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.600 Thora is very horny in this movie. It's everyone this 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:12.240 is dead well horny dead well, but because it's a 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:17.040 Kenny Ortega joint for his horny depth. He's known for 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.200 the High School Musical Trilogy of pretty Horny Trilogy, I'd 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.160 argue I was reading theories about him on the internet today. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.560 Some people say he's hooked up with Gene Kelly, Kenny Ortega. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.720 I know he's amazing. He's alleged. Is he sixty seven 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:41.720 years old and so well preserved? Yeah, I haven't aged 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.600 a day. He's drinking potions. I want to know what 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.320 children he's been drinking the blood of Yeah, Like, let's 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.560 zach Efron. That's why he has him in all the movies. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:58.800 He's like took his fans to Zach. It sucked out 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.480 a couple of years out of the Definitely we kind 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.040 of zach A just aged all of a sudden. It 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.480 could have been, Yeah, it's just what we're seeing like 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:12.760 pre pubescent, like to like, I'm going, yeah, what was 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.720 the movie where that happened for him where it was 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:19.440 like I'm I'm hot. I think like Neighbors. There was 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.240 like a Grandpa movie, Bad Grandpa. I've never seen a 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:28.120 friend movie that's totally watched every single movie that he's in, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.560 really love zach Efron Zach, if you're out there, we 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.960 want we have I have a question, which is to 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.040 your nex suck your blood. Hey, look back to hocus 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:44.440 a pokish. Sorry. They go to the witch's house. Virgin 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:50.840 Max light hands no one like. They all make fun 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.920 of him for being a virgin, but he's fine. He's 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.680 like okay, He's like, yeah, virgin Like. He offers it 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.520 to the hot girl Allison, to light and she's like 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:06.160 nothing because she's like yeah, not like you lose theer. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.719 He's like, okay, I'll do it. I'll don't it. So 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.000 he lights the candle and it brings back the three 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.240 witches and then they recap. So there, Oh, there's speaking 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.360 of horny nous. Here's who is everyone? Who's horny? Max 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.240 for Alison, maybe Thor Birch for her brother, Bett Middler 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:32.600 for her book she wants, and then Sarah Jessica Parker 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.359 for everyone everyone. Yeah, I like the horny bust driver too, 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.679 Horny bust driver, Horny Satan. Yes, everyone is extremely horny. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.800 There's got to be someone out there named Horny Sade. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.800 You're out there all right, let me get through the 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.520 rest of the story very fast. So the which has 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.240 come back. They're like, crap, we are only gonna be 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.040 able to stay alive for a day unless we can 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.359 make this potion again. But the book has stolen from them. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.919 They try to get the book back because it has 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.040 a recipe for the potion that lets them live forever, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.560 and then just like they don't remember. Yeah, it's like 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.520 you're a witch. I don't really get that reliance on 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:16.879 the book. It's at what point do you for so 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.680 many hundreds of years time it's go time, it's show time. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.000 Like you can't just say, oh, the most important spell. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.080 I haven't written down something that's going to keep me 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.960 alive forever, which really matters. So that, yeah, it doesn't 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.720 make sense that they haven't memorized. I remember like half 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.440 of it. It wasn't a long spell. It was a 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.399 toe of a of a dead man. And then they 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:50.720 like spitting it part of their stuff. Yeah, thirty minutes 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:55.680 or less. Rachel Ray like just live forever anyway, So 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.920 they're trying to get their book back and then they're 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.720 like no, and then they try to burn the witches 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.359 and that doesn't work, and then finally they're able to 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.920 defeat them. That facary binks comes back as a cat 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.280 and he talks, He talks and then which is scary 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.600 to me. You right, we learned from the Men in 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.800 Black episode that's not you're not a fan of I 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.399 was kind of horny for him as a cat to 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.360 the cat, really, ocar two are you saying? In addition 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.960 to me, I still want to clarify I'm not horny, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.280 you know. We're actually just like sitting there and Kayle 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.919 was just like, it's crazy how much I want to 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.440 fun this cat? Like can you not? It's like, well, 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.919 I'm right next to you. Please keep your horny thoughts 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.840 to yourself. A lot of horny day this is Is 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.520 this an actor's film or is this a tone poem? 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.040 That's what I have to ask myself. At the beginning, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.840 I would say, ken you or take a body of 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.400 work is more of a tone wol you say that? 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.119 But when Bette Midler's and it suddenly it's an actor's 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:59.040 hidden She's giving us range and depth. I know because 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.280 there's her ugly before they drink of the potion and 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.239 then different they look. How different to their hair is 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.320 just a little bit more, but their hair is better 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.879 like this shape. But they also it is it's like 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:17.920 they took all the really poorly applied special effects makeup 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.439 and prosthetics and just kind of sleft it off right right, 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.919 so it's still unattractive. Someone took a baby wipe to 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.119 them and they're like, we did it. We killed a child. 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:35.400 Now we looked two percent nicer. Maybe it's a bones thing. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:39.680 Maybe their bones hurt. And then I'm just throwing it out. Sure, 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:45.080 which is have bones? Yeah, but isn't that the whole 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.919 thing about them? Like floating? Oh maybe they have hollow 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.120 bones like bird bones, but they're so strong. Look, I'm 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.520 not writing the rules of which is I don't know. 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:02.160 She res so finely. They destroy the witches and everything's 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.159 fine and Tha Gary Banks gets to return to his 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.440 like ghost form and everything's great and uh and then 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.000 is there a kiss? At the ages to die? Which die? 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:18.480 There's kiss? There's a weird spooney thing we were taught. Okay, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.359 we were saying, what's his name? Max? Max must have 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.840 been doing some serious, like the Secret style manifesting, because 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.600 this day in the afternoon, he's like humping his pillow 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.080 thinking about this girl. Fast forward like eight hours later, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:37.080 she's in his freaking arms. It's been and it's been 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:46.520 taking a little nat reclining on the formerly humped pillow question. Okay, ladies, 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.720 we were all sixteen year old horny girls. Have you 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.439 ever taken a pillow and been like a person at 0:21:52.480 --> 0:22:01.040 school who I really like tried that yesterday? There. Yeah. 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.560 I was kind of surprised they like did it because 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.800 it's a Disney film and it's if it is something 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.120 very high school that you do. It was weird. I mean, 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.640 I do not to talk about a twelve year old 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.720 characters sexuality. He's probably like fifty. I think he's like 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.840 SIXTI oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I feel better. Okay, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:29.480 so let's talk about his sexual developing manhood. I it 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.879 looks so upset. She's like, let's go back to catball. Hang. 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.840 I know that Catlin would rather be sucking on a 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.840 cat now, But I think we need to talk about 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:49.120 masculinity there or in Trouble Today or okay, okay, but 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.600 but truly we I mean, obviously point of this podcast 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.440 is to talk about female characters, but I think portrayal 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.719 of masculinity also is super important, and this was I 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:03.440 thought a pretty good one in terms of like Max 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.320 is a sixteen year old and a version which is 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.080 not uncommon like and on average, I think men tend 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.879 to lose their virginity later than women do. But I 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.080 thought it was kind of cool to see a young 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.399 male character who was like, I'm a virgin. I'll light 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:23.000 this candle whatever I'm I'll do the inciting incident of 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.680 the movie because I've never fucked before. I thought that 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.200 was nice. And even when people were giving him shit 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.959 about it, he never got like like I'm gonna go 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.639 I'm a monster now. But I thought that that was 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.879 like a pleasant part of this movie. It's like, we 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:42.240 have a virgin male and everyone like even when people 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:43.879 aren't cool with it, like the guy who's the guy 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.679 who's talking to the fake police officer, he was like, 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.880 but that was a weird interaction where he was like, yeah, 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.200 I'm a virgin and the police officer was like really 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.960 and then like, how are you not inside a woman 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:01.000 right now? Like the application was weird, Like he wasn't like, 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.320 oh you suck you was just like, but you're so hot. 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:09.040 It was But anyways, I liked Max's character for that. Yeah, 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:13.680 because you see so often in media where like young 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.879 boys are like I gotta lose my virginity. It's like 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.800 this thing and being a virgin's name, and it's makes 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.239 me a loser. So it's nice to see him like 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.159 maybe not necessarily embrace it, but to be okay with 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.760 it and corny virgin and he doesn't care. Yeah, because 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.800 it gets brought up like four or five different times 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.160 in the movie where you're a virgin and he's like, huh, 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.719 I mean he got a lot accomplished by never fucking 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.320 in that movie. Yeah, you see that like portrayal of 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.120 like virgins being lame. So I'm like, yeah, a good 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.399 point in this movie. Like he's it's fine with it. 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.840 It's weird. It's nice to see it around the hero, right, 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:50.440 And I was just at the end of the day, 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.159 he's still like a hot kid. He's going to be 0:24:53.280 --> 0:25:02.359 fine though that I should the beginning, not not top 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.520 it much. I like and I like them. I mean, 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.760 I'm just I'm DNA programmed to love little meathead Massachusetts 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:17.240 boys like what you liked ice in the back roum 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.320 literally people I went to fourth grade with, Like did 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.320 you ever did you go to school with kids who 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.199 would have the Nike swoosh just shaved and that are 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.280 like a lightning bullet. Yeah. Now, I went to school 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.320 in Los Angeles, California Callie Boys. Maybe that's why I 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.879 like it's okay right right, because you know, because you 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:40.439 know that laid back Callie vibe. Man. I still I 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.120