1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? Chris Hary with you on a draft 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: edition of Chargers Weekly. A wild first round. The Chargers 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: get their guy at number six, Justin Herbert. Then they 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: move in to number twenty three overall to get Kenneth 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Murray of Oklahoma stud linebacker out of the Big twelve. 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna have our feet writers round table. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Popper of the Athletic Gilbert Benzano Southern California News 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Group and team reporter Helio would going to join me, 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: but first we catch up with Justin Herbert's college coach, 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Oregon's Mario Christa Ball. Our Chargers fans, we got our 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: guy at number six overall, Justin Herbert, Please be joined 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: by his college head coach, Mario Christa ball coach. How 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: are you extremely happy and excited for both your organization 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: and for Justin Herbert? Man, you guys got yourself an 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable one right there. I know you just spoke to 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: him at his house. What was that conversation like for you? Oh? Man? 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: It was everybody's so happy for him. He couldn't write 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: a better script. The story for a guy that grew 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: up loving football and wanted to play for the Ducks 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: to getting that opportunity, now getting his opportunity to play 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: for such a great franchise. This thing is a Hollywood script, 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: is what it is. And I think what you're going 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to find out really really soon is that this guy, 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: from head to toe is exactly what you want as 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: a competitor, as a quarterback, as a human being. What 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: are the Chargers getting in Justin Herbert in coming back 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: for his senior year, coach, how big was that to 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: prepare him for the next level? It was monstrous for him. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean a couple of things go with that. You know, 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: remember when this guy loves the game, he really does. 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: He is an absolute football junkie, and he loves his teammates, 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and he knew that he was going to be surrounded 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: by some really good guys and he felt like, you 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: know what, as a junior, we came up to the 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: short of some of our goals, and he did not 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: want to leave here without cementing those goals and making 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: them a reality and also making sure that he did 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: whatever he could to help his teammates get there, because 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: that's what he is. He is a completely unselfish guy, 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: does not care about personal accolades. Just wants to see 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the guys around him do really well. But his leadership 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot and his performances have made him an Oregon legend. 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: And I know he doesn't like to talk about that 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of stuff because he's a humble guy. But you 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about just the ultimate competitor and field 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: general man. That's what justusin Herbert is. He was asked 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: so many times throughout this process about his leadership and 48 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: he said, you know it, just asked the guys in 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Eugene about my leadership. People lead in different ways. This 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: is a bright kid, a smart kid with a high 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: i Q. From a leadership perspective, sometimes you just lead 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: by example on many ways. I'll tell you what. This 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: guy does it in every single way possible. And you 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: look at the look at the entire body of work. 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: You're looking at a guy that walked in as a 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: freshman and had to just he was thrown to the fire, 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: complete baptism of fire on a team that was four 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: and eight, surrounded by a lot of new guys, a 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: lot of new positions, and then going through three head 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: coaching changes, a couple of coordinator changes as well, and 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: just basically him and his boys putting their foot in 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: the ground and saying, you know what, We're going to 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: bring Oregon back to what Oregon is all about, what 64 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Oregon is known for. And to take a team from 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: being four and eight and that steady climb, right which 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: you know those wins from four to seven, seven to nine, 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: nine to twelve is exponentially harder to be able to 68 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: do that in the fashion that he and his teammates 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: said that with him being the leader. I mean, if 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a quarterback, I would want him to 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: have that experience going to the next level knowing that 72 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: he knows how to tackle and take on adversity and 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: come up a winner on the other side. Your last 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: game together with Justin at the Rose Bowl about twenty 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: one miles from where he's going to play in Los 76 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Angeles and so far stadium, what do you remember about 77 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: that day? And you talk about athleticism, Justin won that 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: with his legs. He sure did. I mean, we felt 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: that it was our responsibility to do our best to 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: keep him upright all year, you know, and if we 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: got to the end of the year, we were in 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: a position and we were playing for a Championship and 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: we're just gonna cut him loose. And you know that 84 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Pack Towel Championship game, he changed the entire dynamic of 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: the entire competition by running the football, tucking it away 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: a couple of times in the first three plays and 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: ends up winning the Pack Towel Championship. And then in 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: that Rose Bowl game, I mean, who would have thought 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the only game he doesn't throw a touchdown and he 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: wrote three. And it wasn't only that he ran for 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the That's how he did it. I mean he made 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: a guy in this. He made a great decision. He 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: outran guys that had angles on him. I mean he 94 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: put that all on display, all at six foot six 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: and some change in two hundred and thirty five pounds. 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: So I promise you you are going to be extremely please, 97 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: excited and fired up about everything. This guy's gonna bring 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: your program. Coach, How is Justin going to fit in 99 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: with his offense? Right? You bring in a guy like 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Trey Turner, a Pro Bowl guard Brian Bulaga, and the 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: weapons on the out side, the Keenan Allen's, big play 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: guy like Mike Williams, dependable tight end like Hunter Henry 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler in the backfield. When you have weapons like 104 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: that and a couple that with everything that Jesser brings 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to the table and the fact that he can be 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: mobile as well, how is that going to mesh? You're 107 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: gonna love it. I really, I have absolutely zero doubt 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: that he is going to exceed expectation. I'll tell you why. 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: He can do things that other guys can train their 110 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: entire lives and go to specialist for him and they'll 111 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: never be able to do. He can he can make 112 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: every throw and he can make it better than everybody else. 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: His decision making, his football IQ, his ability to learn 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and process, his courage, his toughness, his desire to win. 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a total package. Man. It's what you 116 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: want your own son to be. It's what you want 117 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: your quarterback of your franchise to be. It's he's going 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: to excel and all that stuff. And I think the 119 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: guys around them are going to absolutely love his character 120 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 1: and the fact that he's all about making sure that 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: he does best by those guys he coach. We just 122 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: found a picture we put it up on our Instagram 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: of Justin wearing a Charger shirt when he was a 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: kid and maybe this was meant to be. No, hey, 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I think it is. I really do. Where Selfishly, I'm 126 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: extremely happy that he's on the West Coast and somehow, 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: some way we'll be able to see him at some 128 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: point in time during the season on a buy a 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: week or whatnot, and maybe we'll fly over there and 130 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: watch him on a bye week. But sometimes his family, 131 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: his brother, who's a tight end with us right now, 132 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Justin himself. I can't say enough about this guy. And 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: I get it. Look, when you get guys on your 134 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: show to talk about their former players and how they're 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: getting drafted, I'm sure they all gush about him. But 136 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I take a good hard look at what this young 137 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: man has done academically on the field. The adversities have 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: to overcome between the coaching changes, the injuries, and what 139 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: he's been able to do with all that stuff, and 140 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he's just getting started. He's just scratched 141 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: in the surface. I mean, I couldn't I couldn't ask 142 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: for a better coaching opportunity to be around a guy 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: like him, and I couldn't wish a better situation for 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: any NFL team than a guy like Justin Herbert to 145 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: be on that on that team. Well, coach, we were 146 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: jacked up before, we're even more jacked up now after 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: talking to you, I can't thank you enough for your time. 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: I know how busy this is. I know you had 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: a chance to go hang with Justin and heck, we 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: may see you in the Rose Bowl next year. Maybe 151 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: why Justin's in a playoff game, it's so far. That's 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: always a goal. So I hope to see you there. 153 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome to a Beat Writers round Table 154 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: draft edition of Chargers Weekly here with haleyol Wood, Daniel 155 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Popper of the Athletic Gilbinzato Southern California News Group. Guys, 156 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: not much happened tonight. Huh yeah, complete complete dead three 157 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: hours for us. Yeah, Chargers get their quarterback Justin Herbert 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: at number six. And I was preparing to talk more 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: about Justin Herbert today, so I'm compiling notes and then 160 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I look up and it says the Chargers on the 161 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: clock at twenty three overall. And what do they do? 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: They get Kenneth Murray, the stud linebacker from Oklahoma. So 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: let's start with Gil your your overall thoughts on both 164 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and then snatching Keneth Murray at twenty three. Yeah, 165 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: that ke Keneth Murray Pickles a surprise for me. I 166 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: was already writing my story for the day, Justin Herbert. 167 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I think I was approaching a thousand words. And then 168 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: you see the trade off for Keneth Murray. But overall, 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: like the both picks, you feel to a needs there 170 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: for a quarterback and linebacker. I'm not surprised they didn't 171 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: go off into tackle. But Kenneth Murray is a good player. 172 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: We're talking to them. They could play two spots from 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: outside to inside linebacker. In a year ago. That was 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: kind of an issue for the Charge and I having 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: productions from the linebackers. You got that. But the main 176 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: attraction is Justin Herbert. That was kind of chaos as 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: a top with Joe Burrow and twa. Where would these 178 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: guys go? And for the Charge, it was justin her 179 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: and I seem that the Turs are okay with that. Daniel, 180 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: what about you? Yeah, I mean I always thought there 181 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: was a chance they'd trade back into the first round. 182 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: The more I thought about it. That quote from Tom 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: to LESCo and as Friday conference call where he was like, 184 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: this this draft is really deep, particularly in the first round, 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: was sort of like a ding ding ding moment for me. 186 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to trade back in for 187 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: a tackle, and I thought they were one of these 188 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: guys between Josh Jones and Ezra Cleveland, Austin Jackson, we 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: fall into them and they'd take him. But I also 190 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: thought that, you know, internally, linebacker was kind of at 191 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: the same level of need as tackle, and tonight they 192 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: proved that it was even higher than that. And I 193 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: always thought that, you know, Patrick Queen and Kenneth Murray 194 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: were the two linebackers after Isaiah Simmons, and there was 195 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: a chance that both those guys were going to fall 196 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: past the twentieth pick, and I figured if both those 197 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: guys were falling, they were going to go after one 198 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: of them. And as it turns out, they must have 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: had Kenneth Murray rated as at least the top fifteen 200 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: pick the way that they were talking about him, and 201 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: he's a perfect fit for this defense. I mean, I 202 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: was just watching some highlights because I haven't done a 203 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: lot of studying on him, just because I figured they'd 204 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: a dress linebacker in the second or third round. I mean, 205 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: the guy, violent mentality, That's what Tom said on his 206 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: his commerce call all of us that it's exactly how 207 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: he plays, and he's fast, he hits hard. And then 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: the other thing that they talk about with Kenneth Murray 209 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: is his leadership. He's multiple multiple year captain at Oklahoma 210 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: and they're going to be looking for leaders in this 211 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: locker room, you know, after Russell o'coon leaving and Philip 212 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Rivers leaving a lot of guys that they relied on 213 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: to be leaders in this locker room, they're looking for 214 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: young players that can fill that void. And as Tom said, 215 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: they got both those and justin Herbert and Kenneth Murray 216 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: and then just as far as Harbert in the quarterback, 217 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Like I think we all sort of knew that it 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: was going to be the quarterback the whole time. But 219 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: as with draft speculation and the smoke screens, there's always like, 220 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, you think you know exactly what they're going 221 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: to do in February heading into the combine, and then 222 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: just the seeds of doubt are planted and they started 223 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: growing in your head. And then by the time the 224 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: draft rolls around, you're like, I have no idea they 225 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: could draft any position, you know, so, but it really 226 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: like once the pick came in in my mind and 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it was it was quarterback the whole time. 228 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: It was just a question of which quarterback was going 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: to be there at six. Obviously, we couldn't get any 230 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: information from Tom as far as was it if TWA 231 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: and Herbert were both there to a talk about a 232 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: lot of Alabama who went to the Dolphins, which one 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: they were going to pick. My gut says that they 234 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: were going to take to it just because he checks 235 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the boxes that they're looking for in 236 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Obviously, the Chargers are never going to admit that, 237 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: but they obviously really like Herbert as a player, and 238 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: he does a lot of the things that you want 239 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: out of a quarterback in an Anthony Land offense that 240 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: he's going to be implementing with a lot more quarterback 241 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: movement and a lot more play action. Honestly, a tremendous 242 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: day for the Chargers front office. I feel like across 243 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: the board, Haley, you and I have talked to so 244 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: many draft analysts. We've poured through mock draft after mock 245 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: draft after mock draft, and at nauseam and you kind 246 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: of cite yourself out right, You're like, yeah, are the 247 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: Chargers going to take We had an inkling that it 248 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be Herbert through all the analysts that we've 249 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: we've talked to. Um not that they knew, but you know, 250 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: you heard his name come up so many different times. 251 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: You had a chance to talk to him tonight. What 252 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: was his reaction to getting picked by the Bolts and 253 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: how excited is he about coming to LA He's so 254 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: excited And actually, what's really cool is he was literally 255 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: training down the street. He was training for the combine 256 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: down the street, so he's super familiar with the area. 257 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: He just said, it's it's just a really really great fit. 258 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: He's super excited to be here. He even goes back. 259 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: He told me his relationship with Dan Fouts goes back 260 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: to his grandfather, who was a wide receiver at Oregon, 261 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: and that relationship that they've had is very very special 262 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and one that's sort of been fostered through the years. 263 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: So he said, you know, to follow kind of a 264 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: legend like that is something really special and carry on 265 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: that Oregon legacy with the Chargers is really great as well. 266 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: And he was a Chargers fan growing up. Yeah, Yeah, 267 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: that picture was awesome. So somebody slides in my DMS 268 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: and sends me the picture. He's like, oh, here's Justin Herbers, 269 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: a five year old. I'm like, what where did you 270 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: find this? And I go to Reddit and I get 271 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: it confirmed. It's like he's Spider all is a charge 272 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean between foulds as Haley mentioned and the charger 273 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: shirt as a young kid, like it seems like it 274 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: was destiny right. Yeah, you know, I just got off 275 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: to home with Mario crystal Ball, his head coach at Oregon, 276 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: and he even threw this caveat and he goes, I 277 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: know you can talk to guys on this show all 278 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: the time, the coaches, and they're gonna gush about their player. 279 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: He goes, but let me just tell you guys got 280 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: your self a player. And one of the things he 281 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: referenced that I thought was really interesting is the type 282 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: of team that he's coming into with an offense with 283 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: so many weapons, and that really cater to his skill set, 284 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: his athleticism, his big arm. When you talk about big 285 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: play guys like Mike Williams and Keenan Allen having a 286 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: tight end like Hunter Henry and Austin Eckler um that 287 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and also the fact that he played in multiple offenses. 288 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: If you get him in an offense, he's comfortable with 289 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: the weapons around him. Obviously that's going to lead to success. 290 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: At least you're set up for success as a Gong quarterback. Yeah, 291 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: and I think you're right because looking with Joe Burrow 292 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: and two have in Miami and Cincinnati, it's not as 293 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: much as the Chargers. You mentioned the wide receiver. They 294 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: revapped the offsiteve line with Bryan Mulaga and Trade Turner. 295 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: So if Justin Herbert is playing today, I know Tyrod 296 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Taylor is there, but he has the time to the team. 297 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of comparisons that he had a lot 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: of skilled players like an LSU or Alabama. So you 299 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: look at the tools upside, the arm, the speed, you 300 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: put them on a good system, all that could flourish. 301 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: So let's see how how it goes. But I think 302 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: he's been through many coaches. I think you're about the 303 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: three system he's gone through in Oregon, so he could 304 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: pick up an office pretty quick. We spoke to him. 305 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: He was pretty bothered about missing one formation and that 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Quizy got from the Chargers. So you could tell he's 307 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: the guy who wants to get it all correct one 308 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent. So I think for him, it's probably eager 309 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: to get to that playbook. But that's the best part. 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: It's like it wasn't even like someone asked him specifically 311 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: about his meetings. They were just like, oh, like, how 312 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: much contact did you have with the Chargers. He's like, 313 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: I've missed a question, Like to like, still remember is 314 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: it months later? Like it's just I mean, you want 315 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback that is seeking perfection and not only seeking 316 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: perfection for himself, but seeking perfection for his team and 317 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: for his teammates. And that's certainly what this guy is 318 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: in justin Herbert, and you know there's at all these 319 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: questions about his leadership skills, his charisma. I mean, it's 320 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: b asked to me frankly, like obviously there was only 321 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: one interaction, and we interact a little bit at the combine, 322 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: but at no point in time was I was I like, 323 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the personality to connect with the personalities 324 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: that the charters have in their locker room. Like to me, 325 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: he just seems like a very talented, very smart, very 326 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: charismatic guy who can absolutely fill the role as an 327 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback in the locker room and on the field. 328 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: He mentioned that p word to me on the phone, 329 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: and that that perfectionist word, that that is what he is. 330 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: And like you said, Daniel, that is such a great 331 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: trait to have, and he goes. But hey ended up 332 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: working out, so everything's fine now, Yeah, And ultimately with 333 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: the perfectionist thing like that was a negative for him 334 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: entering the draft, just because a lot of analysts talk 335 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: about how maybe he's he overthinks a little bit because 336 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: he's always trying to make the perfect decision as opposed 337 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: to reacting, which is what you need to do as 338 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But the Chargers have some excellent quarterback coaches 339 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: between Ripshar and Shane Steiken, who are going to hopefully 340 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: be able to unlock that for him in the Charger's eyes. 341 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: And I think that that's certainly a possibility. But you know, 342 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: there are positives and negatives to that trait. I guess 343 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to say, Gil. I want to 344 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: go back to what you said just a few minutes ago, 345 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: So too ahead. Jerry Judy and Henry Ruggs, they both 346 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: went in the first round, Joe Burrow had Clyde Edwards 347 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Hilaire and Justin Jefferson who went in the first round. 348 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Justin harber didn't have the weapons that those guys had. 349 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: He has four years of experience, He's a big athletic kid, 350 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: and he showed out at the Senior Bowl. He was 351 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: the MVP of that game. He had a great week 352 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: against the best competition in college football at the senior level. 353 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: So I do think you have to put these things 354 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: into context a little bit. You know, Let's see what 355 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert looks like with rugs and Judy on other side, 356 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: or if he goes down to LSU with the weaponsit 357 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow had. Yeah, we're gonna see that pretty 358 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: similar can and Mike Williams there. But you know what 359 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: really impressed me about Justin Herberts that when the spotlight 360 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: was on him in that Big Rose Bowl game to 361 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, he came out with the MVP in 362 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: both of those games that combine, he probably one of 363 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: the best workouts there. So when he had to spotlight 364 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: on him, probably you know the people are talking about 365 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: is throwing motion or whatever, they're critiquing everything, he stepped 366 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: up with when the lights were brighter, and he was 367 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: a starter for forty I think he started forty two 368 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: games in Oregon for four seasons. He brought up how 369 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: bad they were as a freshman at Oregon and he 370 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: built them up to be a Rose Bowl champion. So 371 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: you've seen how much justin Herbert's kind of progressed in 372 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: the last four years, and just to have the spotlight 373 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: on him, I think that really kind of, you know, 374 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: impressed me that he was able to flourish that that. Well, 375 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: I'll add something really quick just about the Senior Bowl, 376 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: because I did ask him, you know, what did you 377 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: learn that week that really kind of taught you that 378 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: you could play football at this next level? And he 379 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: said that really it was just the whole process. It 380 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: was the whole process of being around NFL teams, learning 381 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: sort of the meeting schedule, being around guys who you know, 382 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: we're probably going to make it at that next level. 383 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: And he said that leading up to the combine, he goes, 384 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: I had this kind of idea in my head that 385 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I was going to go out and do what I 386 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: do best and sort of let the rest take care 387 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: of itself. And that's exactly what ended up happening back 388 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: in January a paper Kenneth Murray. You know, we talked 389 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons a lot at number six, potentially to 390 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: get your franchise quarterback. Then to kind of boldly go 391 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: into the first round and get Kenneth Murray, who was 392 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: an absolute monster at Oklahoma three hundred twenty five tackles 393 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: thirty six and a half for loss nine and a half. Sex. 394 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: You get a guy who fills a huge need on 395 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers defense. And you know, we talk about the 396 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: individual talents on the Chargers D. They didn't necessarily put 397 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: that altogether last year, two years ago they did. I 398 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: think a healthy Darwin James is going to have a 399 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: bigger say in that. But to plug in a guy 400 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: like Kenneth Murray, a young player on a D that 401 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: has kind of a mix of vets and younger guys alike. Yeah, absolutely. 402 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: And the one thing that struck me about Keneth Murray 403 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: and talking to him was just, you know, how versatile 404 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: he is. And that's one of the things that he 405 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: brought up when I asked him sort of where he's 406 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: going to fit into his defense. He played mike middle 407 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: linebacker at Oklahoma, but he was recruited as an outside linebacker, 408 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: meaning that he could play Mike for the Chargers. He 409 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: could play Will, which is where Thomas Davis played last year. 410 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: He could play Sam, which is their autospot, which is 411 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: a strong side linebacker. He could even rush from a 412 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: standing position, he said, which is what Melvin Ingram does 413 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: on third down packages. The pieces that Gus Bradley and 414 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Tom Tlasco and the Charge in general looking for on 415 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: defense are versatile, athletic, hard hitting pieces, and that's what 416 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray is. He fits. And that's when Tom Tlasco 417 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: says that he fits perfectly what we're trying to do. 418 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: That's what he is. And I'm curious to see where 419 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: he ends up bitting in. I mean, I think he's 420 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna be primarily at Will to start out, just because 421 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Drew Trankel flourished at the MIC spot last season and 422 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Denzel Perryman and Drew Trankle's sharing that middle lineback role 423 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: work so well last season. But we'll see it can 424 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: really play so many different spots that you know, adding 425 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, having Desmond King as well, Gus Bradley has 426 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces to use. To move around and 427 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: create packages that are going to recabo on opposing offenses. Hailey, 428 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, because we thought that maybe 429 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers would address the left tackle position in the 430 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: first or second round. Now that they don't have a 431 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: second or a third round pick, and some of those 432 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: blue chip offensive lineman came off the board pretty early 433 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: in the first round, what do you think they do. 434 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: Do you think maybe you go back to the free 435 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: agency market. Do you think a trade or is it 436 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: just they have some confidence that Trey Pipkins can kind 437 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: of take that next step. You have Sam Tevy, maybe 438 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: you move him to the left side. It's a good point. 439 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, who kind of really knows at this point. Granted, 440 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, we do know that the offensive line code 441 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: just knew this year in James camp, and so we 442 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: obviously knows what's happening with the right side of the 443 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: offensive line, But like you mentioned, the left, especially left 444 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: tackles a little up in the air right now, So 445 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you could obviously even potentially 446 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: trade back in to maybe like the end of the 447 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: third round or something like that, depending on what sort 448 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: of draft capital you have. Obviously, I think it was 449 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: Tom on on the beat call said like, you know, 450 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm not taking tomorrow off, Like that's not what's happening here, 451 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: even though we don't have picks right now. So I 452 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: think it all remains to be seen. But what kind 453 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: of impact Campin has on this line will be very 454 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me and something that'll be very interesting to follow. 455 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: He obviously has the familiarity with Brian Bouloga at the 456 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: right tackle spot, but what happens with left it has 457 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: to be kind of crazy right now to given the 458 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: fact of this virtual world and OTA's kind of being 459 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: all over the place right now, and when maybe things 460 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: will get settled between having some sort of structure. I mean, 461 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I know teams like the Chargers are doing an off 462 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: season program. The Saints aren't even doing one at this point. 463 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: I think I've read last week, so it'll be very 464 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: very interesting to see, but but I don't know. I mean, again, 465 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: we kind of talked about this on the draft party 466 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: and some other things that we've done that This is 467 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: why the draft, though, is so exciting, because here we 468 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: are at the end of Round one knowing that this 469 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: team right now doesn't have a second and third, but 470 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen tomorrow. Ultimately, I feel 471 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: like they have to add another tackle. I just in 472 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: one way or another. I feel like they have to 473 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: add another tackle. I'd minimum to have some competition at 474 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: that spot. You know, if it was a normal as 475 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: Hilly alluded to, if it wasn't. If it was, it's 476 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: obviously a very different offseason. If it was a normal offseason, 477 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: maybe you'd expect Tray Pipkins to make that lead from 478 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: year one to year two. But if he's not on 479 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: the field and he's not working, how can you really 480 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: expect him to get to where you need him to be? 481 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, So between maybe they're comfortable with, saym Tavy 482 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: and Trey Pipkins battling it out there. Maybe they add 483 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: a tackle on Day three. Maybe they trade a player 484 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: for a pick. Maybe it's Desmond King for a third 485 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: round pick to jump back in and make a tackle. 486 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a veteran guy. Maybe they trade a future 487 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: draft capital for Trent Williams. Maybe it's signing Jason Peters 488 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: to a one year deal. I don't think they're done 489 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: revamping this offensive line. I think they have to add 490 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: another tackle piece before this offseason. Is over kil We 491 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: talked about this. I think on the last roundtable all 492 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: four of us talked about the impact that rookies would 493 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: even make in twenty twenty without an offseason program. And 494 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I guess offensive line's a good point. If if you 495 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: don't get a guy at the very top, it may 496 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: be hard to put in a mid round left tackle 497 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: and expect them to be productive. Yeah, that's why I 498 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: think that Trey Pipkins is kind of the guy in 499 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: the driver's seat to start. I know that we keep 500 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: saying the driver's seat for Tyrod Taylor, but how about 501 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: for a trade pim because it be that I gotta 502 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: start a left tackle. He had a pretty impressive rookie year. 503 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to play at all, but he's somehow 504 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: surprised the coaches and how well he played at the 505 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: end end of the season. So maybe that kind of 506 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: went him over, and maybe they assumed that Trey Pipkins 507 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: is ready to take that next step in year two, 508 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: and maybe they could wait on a left tackle. But 509 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: you guys are probably right. Maybe they might make a 510 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: move to jump back in. Who knows. I'm kind of 511 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: hoping they don't, So you kind of have a little 512 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: day off. No second round there around. No, we want chaos, 513 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: drive traffic exactly. They also have knees. I'm gonna trick 514 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: to see if they have a go in for a 515 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver that we were talking about, getting a third 516 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: wide up possibly maybe a short yardage running back. So 517 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: they're not gonna They're not gonna be done, but for me, 518 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm still crossing my fingers a little bit. All right, guys, 519 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: final thing, so I can let you guys go to 520 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: sleep or work or whatever you want. Whatever you're doing, 521 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing tonight, we're grinding, Chris, I got column right. 522 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: The grind don't stop, all right, Haley, Let's start with you. 523 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Do you think the Chargers will make a pick on Friday? 524 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: Let's go yes, I like it? Why not, right, Papa? 525 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: What do you think? I'm gonna say yes, just because 526 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: just start the pile a little bit, I'd say I 527 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: say they deal. Desmond came to a team and knee 528 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: heat of the nickel corner for a third round pick. 529 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: They take a tackle mid third round. Wow, paper trading 530 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: players away already. Listen, I think I know, Gilsay said, 531 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: gil what's skill? You know? I want to. I want 532 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: to drink beers all day tomorrow Friday was it the 533 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Friday side of But you know what I'm gonna go 534 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: with chaos, trade back in, get a tackle. They have 535 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: two first round picks today. We didn't see that coming, 536 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: so why not get another pick tomorrow. Just for the record, 537 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I did see that coming. I had it mocked them 538 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: trading back into the first round, just saying nice path. 539 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't want that on the record. This is this 540 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: is what I think. I think, whether it's the Chargers 541 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: or other teams, teams had to get comfortable with this 542 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: new virtual world today, and now that they're feeling it 543 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, they may get a little more bold tomorrow. 544 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the Chargers, but I think you 545 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: may see more trades and a little bit more chaos 546 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: on Day two. People people vibing off the zoom. Now. Yeah, well, 547 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I was actually curious about that. I was gonna I 548 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: was gonna there's a question I was gonna ask Tom, like, 549 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: did you have did you have teams targeted before the 550 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: first round? Okay, like that, a guy, these are the 551 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: teams we're gonna try and trade back in the first 552 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: round with I was curious how much background work they 553 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: did on teams late in the first round. But with 554 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: these zoom conference calls that I don't get all my questions, 555 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: and it's so unfortunate. You know. We sometimes there's so 556 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: many people on them and you know, we're gonna do 557 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: another beat Riders around table tomorrow. We have to do 558 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: it with a four box at times like this, because, ay, 559 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: we got to be efficient, and you know, when you 560 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: have eight people on it, sometimes it can be tough. Um, 561 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: So we'll have a we'll have another group tomorrow and 562 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get everybody together at the end and 563 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: we'll just talk over each other over the morn. Yeah, 564 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a great content. I love it though. Every time 565 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: you guys come on, it's a blast. Gilbertmanzano, Southern California 566 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: News Group. Yeah, you'll pop for the athletic Haley Elwood 567 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: by partner crimeate Chargers dot Com. Guys. It was fun, 568 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: it was wild, and we'll see on Friday.