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Speaker 1: much they're they've for all the money they've poured into

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Speaker 1: it to now like they're at this point where like guy, guys,

425
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Speaker 1: we're not saying a return on any of this, like

426
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: all this, all this money that was spent, it's all

427
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: going bad. And on top of it that you go

428
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: on in this call about how they tried fucking everything

429
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: to figure out effective messaging, and even when they said

430
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: they tried like connecting AOC and be like, oh my god,

431
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: you know, the socialists are like, you know, isn't that

432
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: like fucking what is this? We gotta stop it? Or

433
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: even saying using cancel culture to try and like infuse

434
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: cancel culture with what this voting legislation was all the

435
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: fucking needle did not move even with cancel culture because

436
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: even conservatives who would have thought that, you know, they're

437
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: rampant greed, would eventually translate into resentment. I don't know,

438
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's what happened. So this is where they're at, right,

439
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Were they like, oh, like was it canceled the billionaires?

440
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: That didn't work? Like how the fund did they even

441
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: try to tie cancel culture? It was more like, I

442
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: think just so indirect, like you know, liberals are so

443
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, uh hopped up on cancel culture that they'll

444
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: do everything at any turn to stop the will of

445
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: the people, including this bill that prevents billionaires from buying elections,

446
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: and then like you were like, yeah, nah, but whenever

447
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the messaging was had anything to do with like something

448
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: punitive for billionaires, supports skyrocketed and they're just like what

449
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: do we We were talking about this yesterday too, of

450
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: just like how every like person seems to have a

451
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: different definition of what cancel culture means to them, and

452
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not interested in what a billionaires version

453
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: of cancel culture is. It means something totally different. It

454
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: means like getting mad that I'm breaking the law with

455
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: all of my money and I'm racist. It's like, that's

456
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: not that's not canceled culture. That's that's billionaire culture. Yeah,

457
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: they don't even understand it from their side. And then

458
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: just one quote from you know, fucking epic conservative goon

459
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Grover Norquist Um. He was also on this call, and

460
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: he said, quote, the left is not stupid, they're evil.

461
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. They have correctly decided that

462
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: this is the way to disable the freedom movement. I mean,

463
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: put that on a poster. They're saying, this is the thing,

464
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: and well, this is what we also told them, or

465
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: this is what we've been saying about HR one and

466
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: why it's why Like we're not understanding why it's taking song.

467
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: This is an existential threat to Republican politics because everything

468
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: is about voter suppression and keeping people in the dark

469
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: as much as possible. And now when you have something

470
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: that's there to remedy that and actively make it easier

471
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: for people to vote and actually be informed, it's like

472
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: this is and I love the terminology, the way to

473
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: disable the fucking freedom movement. A twelve year old wrote that,

474
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: like what is the freedom movement? Free? It's such a

475
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: bummer that like freedom and patriot are like two such

476
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: red flag words, like if someone invokes them, like I

477
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: don't even know what you have my fight or flight

478
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: response kition, if someone starts to self identify as a patriot, Um,

479
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean it's it's Stories like this are tough,

480
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: right because it's you know, it's kind of funny and

481
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: like satisfying to watch these like sick people flail. But

482
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: then also it's like they still have all that money,

483
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: and when when someone with that much money and and

484
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: power starts to feel desperate, don't what happens? Yeah, weird ship,

485
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Like at the least you know, weird ship will happen

486
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: so I I I mean, yeah, weird shit or not

487
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: at the very least. I think what we can take

488
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: from this is that even conservatives, for whatever reason, are

489
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean not for whatever reason. I think because this

490
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: is like the point that you'd hope people can begin

491
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to like melt this divide to understand like, yeah, I mean, granted,

492
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people have some awful fucking ideas, but

493
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: then people just in general, this lack of focus on

494
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: like the real issues of our country rather than like

495
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's these this critical race theory that's

496
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: being taught in schools or I can't believe they're like

497
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: we have to actually begin to understand, like what is

498
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: at the root of, you know, all of this societal rot.

499
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see. Maybe it's greed, who a god mm,

500
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm open to that. Maybe the left is evil, y'all.

501
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's that too, And it's like, yeah,

502
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: it takes a lot for people like what no one good,

503
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: one bad. It's like, no one say racism out loud,

504
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: the other does costplay that's kind of racist, and then

505
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: we'll do it quiet and then incrementally change things. That

506
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: feels still the same for the people living hundreds of years. Yeah, man,

507
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, I loved the can take Clough outfits though

508
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: still always think of that when I think of why

509
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the Democrats have the interests of black people. Um, you know,

510
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: clever optics for whoever thought that up. Okay, let's move

511
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: on to the n r A because there's another group

512
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: who you know that they're weak and the big P patriots,

513
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: big PP with their guns patriots, um, and they look,

514
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: this is we're in a really fucked up time. Recently,

515
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I think the Ninth Circuit UH Court of Appeals just

516
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: ruled that like there's no constitutional argument to why you

517
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: should have opened or concealed carry, um, which I think

518
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: which means this is now going to end up in

519
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. But that's a good that's good for

520
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: any regulation that people said, like, yeah, we're trying to

521
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: tamp down on what you can just carry out and

522
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: about in public. So that's like the latest sort of

523
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: back and forth with gun control. But they the n

524
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: r A is bankrupt and withered. But the fact remains

525
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: that like gun humper culture is still very much alive

526
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: and well because of the work that they did over

527
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: the last few decades, and I still remain very cynical

528
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: over the likelihood of substantive gun control reform. UM, but

529
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: I do recognize that we are in a much different

530
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Speaker 1: time now than we have been ever before. Shannon Watts,

531
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: who founded Mom's Demand Action the day after Sandy Hook,

532
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: has been a regular sparring partner with the with the

533
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: n r A S and she wrote recently wrote an

534
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: op ed that outlines for her just from how she's

535
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: looking at it, why she thinks that we may begin

536
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: to see something different that Goliath maybe you know, falling

537
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: At this point, she points to the fact that support

538
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: for universal background checks through the roof. We saw that

539
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: this includes of Republicans and of gun owners. So not yeah,

540
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: not only that, but it's so weird. We don't hear

541
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the this polling, Like in the reporting.

542
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: It's always very like it's think we think the media

543
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: for that. Um. Yeah, but not only that gun control

544
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: was getting the same support from voters. Um that job

545
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: creation and an additional COVID stimulus was for in terms

546
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: of like what they felt should be the hunt first

547
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: hundred days priority of the new Congress and administration. Don't

548
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I do wish that that was more widely report. I mean,

549
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: it seems like, unfortunately, the only times we hear about

550
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: these kinds of discussions is right after something terrible has

551
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: happened as a result of gun violence, and it's never like, hey,

552
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: this like this is actually a widely supported thing. That's

553
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: that's fun. I'm glad that's true, but I wish that,

554
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff was more widely reported.

555
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: I also wonder with some of this pulling whether um,

556
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: there's any sort of effect of the people they're pulling,

557
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: like essentially wanting to say the right answer but not necessarily.

558
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about like the pre election polling that like,

559
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a blow out. Of course

560
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Clinton is gonna win, but we now know that. Like,

561
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I feel like a lot of

562
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: times we hear, especially in times like this, in the

563
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: wake of of mass shootings and things like that, gun

564
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: owners coming out saying like, no, I'm all for our

565
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: owning guns, but I want to do it responsibly. Uh,

566
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Speaker 1: And I just I don't know, I don't know when

567
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I trust those numbers. Yeah, I mean, it's that's why

568
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: I say, That's why I still remain cynical, you know,

569
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: because I think despite that, there's still an idea where

570
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: people have these just like thought killing cliches, which is Democrat,

571
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: come steal my gun, and then it's just becomes this

572
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: existential fight. But at the same time, I think is

573
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: like just unfortunately, as gun violence just becomes more widespread,

574
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: like it's starting to affect a wider group of people

575
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: who are starting to see themselves and maybe the victims

576
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: out there and be like, yeah, well, I know I'm

577
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: not a bad guy. I just you know, I'm making

578
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: up for not making the football team in high school,

579
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: so that's why I have all these guns. But maybe

580
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: and I'm responsible, so yeah, maybe it should just be

581
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: for responsible people. I don't know. I am encouraged that

582
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Shannon watts Uh finds it encouraging. I'm like, that's at

583
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: least that's that's a good person to to take cues from,

584
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: right well, because typically they're writing the pieces that are

585
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: saying the n r A is making it impossible for

586
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: anything to happen, and they're telling you from their perspective

587
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: of how many times they've had to go up against

588
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: this lobbying group. But now it's like saying, like things

589
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: are changing at the very least. I think that's the

590
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: most healthy bit of optimism I'll take from that, is

591
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: things are changing UM. And she even goes on to

592
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: point out in the group spent like half of what

593
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: it did in to support Trump obviously because they're dealing

594
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: with bankruptcy UM as well as other Republicans, and then

595
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: one third less on lobbying UM in that year. And

596
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: then revenue and revenue from membership dues also dropped by

597
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: thirty percent in nineteen UM, partly because there seems to

598
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: be like awareness that they don't present responsible gun owners anymore,

599
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: like it used to just be like, hey, you got

600
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: your gun, you joined the n r A and the

601
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: and now people I think just like they just I

602
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I watched n r A t V the

603
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: other day and damn Bongino ripped apart of Black Action

604
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: figure uh and kept calling it a thug. And I

605
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: had no idea what this has to do with the

606
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: rifles or anything. That's their children's programming too. It's it's

607
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: a difficult channel to watch and Bungo screaming about thugs

608
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: and actually bead cop and I know about them, so

609
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I I hope. I hope she's right, you know,

610
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: because I think their whole worldview and their whole model

611
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: is business was just sort of being like the world

612
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: is coming to kill you by these guns because that

613
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: no one can be trusted, especially brown people, and they

614
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: they want to make people feel as helpless as possible

615
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: and nothing can be done. But I think given and

616
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: this is a nothing Shannon Watt's points to Given and

617
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: how just awful things were and people sort of trying

618
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: to figure out, like why things are the way they are,

619
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that there's a little bit different energy that maybe people

620
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out maybe there is a way

621
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: for them to exercise their power rather than standing idly

622
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: by mm hmm, go fucking figure. Yeah. I mean, look,

623
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: you love to see it, you really do. I do

624
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: love to see I mean this is this is generally,

625
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I think definitely a part of

626
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: this is like them slowly going broke. But the fact

627
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: that public perception has actually shifted in the past couple

628
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: of years, it's like, well, thank fucking god, the past

629
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: couple of years did something to, you know, shift the

630
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: conversation on this, like if anything, like can we just

631
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: can we just get the assault weaponspan right, just start there,

632
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: like that's can we get on the same page. I

633
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: don't know. The correspondence on n R A t V

634
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: don't seem to think that that's a feasible possibility. And

635
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Speaker 1: I would trust them with him at my life because

636
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: they have so many guns. Who's that satirist? Is there

637
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: a Hillary sergeant on Twitter? Oh? Yeah? I used to

638
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's fucking god level trolling with gun

639
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: control people. I loved it when because did you see

640
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the thing that blew up last week when she was

641
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: like the A R fifteen of most of you don't

642
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: know it's called that because it shoots fifteen bullets at

643
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: a time and it's just like on a Stephen Crowder tweet.

644
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: So the the man splaining the guns splaining that came

645
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: in was so funny where people thought she was serious

646
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: and she would clap back immediately like I was in

647
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: the military. It actually stands for arm light rifle and

648
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: she said, oh, I'm sorry to tell you then, you've

649
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: actually never fired a real A R fifteen. And people

650
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: would be like, how are you going to tell me that?

651
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Posting pictures of them in uniform and these people were

652
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: just the easiest ship. She's like, oh no, her thing

653
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: was just always dismissing what they were saying was not

654
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: true and that she was the only person who has

655
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: fired an A R fifteen. I love. I mean it's

656
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: like appealing to ego like that. That's a that's a

657
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: dangerous game to play. Oh my god. Yeah. When men

658
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: started sending you selfiees with their A R fifteen, they're like, no,

659
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm a good guy, though, You're like no, no, no no, no,

660
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: no, no no, yeah, I know that was like what about

661
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: this one. It's like, this is an A K forty seven.

662
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, that fires forty seven bullets at a time.

663
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: And also that's my photo you stole. Nice try, and

664
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: also that's a dick pick sir. Yeah, sir, put your

665
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: gun down and change into a different Ricking Morty shirt.

666
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. I do. Since we are closing out Women's

667
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: History Month, I do have to give a shout out

668
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: to the n r A for their for their outreach

669
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: to women, because I mean, they they've really I love

670
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: how they've repackaged like female empowerment and dare I say

671
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: feminism as like, ladies, claim your power with this gun.

672
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: It'll fit in your purse. That is that is I

673
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: mean anytime there is a month for like anything that

674
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: when that ship drives me crazy. There was this week

675
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: the l ap D was firing off a bunch of

676
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: tweets being like, hey, everybody, women can be complicit in

677
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: police violence too, so like like and subscribe. It's it's horrible.

678
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: They will just like feature women in the police space

679
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: and be like shout out to the ladies like it's

680
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: it's so bleak. I really don't like it. Yeah, how

681
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: like smart tiny brains do you think I am that

682
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at the l A p D

683
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: tweet and think it's feminist? Come on, well, you have

684
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: a woman's size brain. It's true, it's very small women

685
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: see women equal women, feminism, Okay, when I see a woman,

686
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: I agree, When I see a woman feminism, that's really

687
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: the four And also like they're n r a's idea right,

688
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you can offset the imbalance of patriarchy

689
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: through violence is the solution. So then why aren't they

690
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: telling that to black people too? Hey, man, this is

691
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: white supremacies sucked up. Huh, Hey, I know how we

692
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: know how to equalize that? Get you get you a gun.

693
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: Let's see. That's it's just funny how the logic is

694
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: applied to certain groups. But like oppressed, here's a gun,

695
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: oppressed detector guns away. M little lack of consistency. All right, Um,

696
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: here's an interesting poll I'd like to read out loud

697
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: for everyone you go. Yahoo News survey found that thirty

698
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: of respondents said they are watching pro sports less frequently

699
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: due to calls for racial justice from sports figures, with

700
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: eleven percent saying they now watch more, but a majority

701
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 1: more than said it doesn't bother them because sports, because

702
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: sports rock. I shut up a contingency, that's yeah, that's

703
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: I and speak to the East Coast uncle contingency. They're like, well,

704
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to know anyone's opinions on anything, Like

705
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: they'll try to spin it in this really disingenuous way. Um,

706
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: not mentioning that it makes them feel comfortable, like uncomfortable

707
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: about having their beliefs challenged and their comfort challenge. But

708
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: instead they're like, well, athletes shouldn't say what they think

709
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: about things. That's not why I turned my TV on.

710
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, it's not about you, uncle, it's

711
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: not about you. I'm not watching the NFL anymore, and

712
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: then it's they're posting about how they're secretly watching it.

713
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: That's I don't understand, Like thirty of sports fans are

714
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: so racist that they will no longer watch like the

715
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: one place where toxic masculinity can just run wild? Like

716
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: what the fund are they gonna switch to there for? Really?

717
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: Like if you really funk with sports, those people just

718
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, I don't. This seems just like

719
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: a lie, like you're saying that because really you're just

720
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: saying that. It puts me off. But at the end

721
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: of the day, I only know how to translate my

722
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: lived experience through watching muscle bound athletes smash into each other.

723
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah. Also, how much of this too is

724
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: maybe you're watching less sports because over the past year

725
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: there have been fewer sporting events to watch. Uncle Butch

726
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: call him out, Uncle Butch. The time is now person

727
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: called them out on this very podcast. Your what's his name? Bill?

728
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: What's his god given name? Is? God given name? I

729
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: honestly couldn't tell you. We don't. I love that. That's better.

730
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: Uncle Butch is real. Oh yeah, anyway, welcome to therapy again.

731
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: We're all on our therapist office. Hi great, So yeah,

732
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm still I'm very curious if listeners, if

733
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: you know someone who is so principled in their racism

734
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: that up until this point they were fine watching their

735
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: modern man dingo fights via the NFL or college football. Um,

736
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: what happened? What did they switch to? What are they

737
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: saying they found that is filling that void? Is it

738
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: just like combat sports or is it ain't reading? It

739
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: ain't w e are they where else there to go?

740
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: It's you know what it is, it's the same. It's

741
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: it's the I think this poll is a version of

742
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: when conservatives like pump fake with a boycott and you're like, okay,

743
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: go ahead full like you'll be surprised how little it

744
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: does to impact the business. Um, And this feels like

745
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you know what, actually I'm I'm watching it.

746
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm turned off by this stuff, this black lives matters

747
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: stuff like oh my circle, Okay, anyway, the life of

748
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: a polster in the United States. So wouldn't real fans

749
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: stay tuned, you know? I mean that just seems like

750
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: an unfan kind of thing to do. Absolutely, Yeah, Like,

751
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: how do you you're not you're not. You're no fucking fan.

752
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: And if you got like you now I don't. It's

753
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to find the logic path where they

754
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: were okay cheering for black men or men of color,

755
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: women of color, people of color in their sporting event

756
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: because it served their team. But the moment that the

757
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: spotlight is put on the inequities of it all, it's like, well, actually,

758
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: that's that's just how white spremacy works. That makes sense.

759
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: I liked it better when we didn't talk about it,

760
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: and now that we're talking about it now, I gotta

761
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: scream about it because I don't want to be self aware.

762
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Seeing someone taking knee is just wildly triggering, you know, yeah, right,

763
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: and wow, what a what an aggressive posture to take,

764
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: Like who would who would want to see that? Yeah,

765
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: you should have stormed the capitol if you wanted to

766
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: do something about it. It does kind of make me wonder,

767
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: if you know, if that would be not to say

768
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: that this contingency of sports fan would be any less racist,

769
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: but if the media coverage around it, we're less manipulative. Particularly,

770
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: it's like if you're the kind of sports uncle that

771
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: watches a game and then fucking flips to Tucker Carlson,

772
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: who's going to talk about the game you were just watching,

773
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: and like why you know, the why you're an idiot

774
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: for doing right? Like it's just like there are there

775
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: are so many uh, you know, popular media outlets that

776
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: are you know, encouraging and stoking and probably pointing out

777
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: ship that might not bother someone as much. And then

778
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: like how could you not see how inherently wrong this is?

779
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's so many factors going on.

780
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that could be wrong. No, but I

781
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: mean it makes again, everyone has their own shielded worldview

782
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 1: based on their media consumption and gets twisted and turned

783
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 1: in all kinds of ways. So um, alright, let's take

784
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: another break, and we're gonna let's I'm sorry. I'm sorry

785
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: that we're messing around with non news this whole time.

786
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back and talk about real fucking hard

787
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: news in a second right after this, and we're back.

788
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: James Cameron is making another Titanic movie kind of okay,

789
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: kind of because it's a documentary, but but I'm gonna

790
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: put a pin in that because we have to do

791
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of research here or just a little

792
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: bit of context. Um. Shout out to j m Our

793
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: writer who was like, look at look at what's happening. Um,

794
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: there is a Chinese developer right now who is in

795
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: the process of constructing a life size of full scale

796
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: version of the Titanic. Um. It is built in the

797
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: countryside of China about one tho miles from the sea,

798
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: so it is very landlocked. Um, why is it being built?

799
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what is going on? Why why question joy

800
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: in this way? Why? I mean, who cares? I like

801
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: this photo of seeing it being built like clearly in

802
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, and I like, and I do

803
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: you can tell what they're doing is they're building like

804
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: a miniature doc so it looks it will sit in

805
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: water essentially, so it'll look like it's in water. Yeah,

806
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: it's a bathtime little foot bath for the Titanic. Um

807
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: this I mean it the ship looks massive. So yes,

808
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: they are building in fact, a full scale replica. Uh

809
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: the way it's all So, there's an infomercial apparently that

810
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: the developer of the like this construction site screens for

811
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: visitors when they go visit, and the even the infomercial

812
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: that plays doesn't answer any of those questions. It's just

813
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: sort of like, this is a replica, full scale coming soon.

814
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Know why? Who where? Huh? And it turns out this

815
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: is actually being built by a very wealthy businessman, a

816
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: businessman by the name of last name Sue, who is

817
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: the president of a seven star energy investment group. He's

818
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: just a gigantic Titanic fan. Okay, so this is this

819
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: is like a cool there. I reject people this wealthy,

820
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: except for this person specifically. This is a fun way

821
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: to use fabulous wealth. This is and and also there's

822
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: been other attempts to do this, like over the As

823
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: a long time Titanic head, there have been so many

824
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: attempts to like get uh, you know, they like to

825
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: create a Titanic cruise ship and then take the same

826
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: run as the Titanic and like that for years. I'm like,

827
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy it's actually happening. James Cameron didn't

828
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: even get to build a full sized Titanic, he only

829
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: had to half. I think he's jealous. He's so jealous,

830
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of Laura. He seems like a bitter man.

831
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: My mom was in Mexico when they shot the sinking scene,

832
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, or like when they had the half half

833
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: version coming out of the water, and I remember she

834
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: was like I remember as a kid, I was like,

835
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: why are you going to Mexico, like for a word trip.

836
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be and she's like,

837
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: it's Titanic and I'm like, I don't know what that means.

838
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: And it always confused me, like why it wasn't shot

839
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: in the sea in Mexico. And I had no idea

840
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: about production then. But anyway, a little bit of fact,

841
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: you should have what it was like to be there

842
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: in the cold. Um. So back to this new thing.

843
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: There's a new Titanic movie with James Cameron at the helm,

844
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: or well rather he's producing it. But it's a documentary

845
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: about the six Chinese survivors of the Titanic sinking who

846
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: have gone ignored by history. This is called the movie

847
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: is called the Six Um and it's just about just

848
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: all the Chinese aspects of this story that have been

849
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: completely erased or not told outside of China perhaps, So um,

850
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be coming out like pretty soon actually this

851
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: April on the hundred and ninth anniversary. The title an damn.

852
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: That's why I to think my Grandma would have been

853
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: a hundred nine. She was born, uh, two days after

854
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: the Titanics. Um, she lived a one or two though

855
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: she was doing all right. Shout up Michico. Um. But

856
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the reasons that we

857
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't get the you know, full story about these six

858
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Chinese survivors is you guessed it racism. Um. The men

859
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: were in steerage where their survival rate was only about

860
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: and once they arrived in the US, they were detained

861
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: and deported due to the Chinese Exclusion Act. These motherfucker's

862
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: survived the sinking of the like off the Titanic, being

863
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: pulled out the water. They got to the US. But yeah,

864
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: and they said, yeah, y'all are out of here. Now

865
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: we're not doing this. Yeah. The other thing that JM

866
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: notes is that other passengers were given medical treatment, and

867
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: they were denied medical treatment. Was like an immediate like no, no, no,

868
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: you already know you can't be here, can't be here.

869
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Here's your ticket, goodbye. So yes, this is like a

870
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: very American telling of this story. But another really interesting

871
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: bit was that James Cameron originally had a scene or

872
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: a shot where a Chinese man was rescued from a

873
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: wooden plank, but they cut it from the theatrical version.

874
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Are they going to release it in the new movie?

875
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I know, like it shouldn't that be? Like the new

876
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: Snyder cut is just like put back the little weird

877
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: bit of Asian representation there was in this in a

878
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: four hour movie. Wow, this is I had no idea

879
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: this was going to happen. This is so fucking cool.

880
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: Another mind blowing thing. James Cameron used the story of

881
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: one of the passengers, Fang Lang, who survived on a

882
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: floating door. As you guessed it, inspiration for Jack and

883
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: Rose's final scene. So you're taking from them and you

884
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: still we didn't know this, James, James needs to make

885
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: this right. I'm glad he needs to make this right.

886
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: That this is so oh my god, that's this. I

887
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: can't put into words how excited I am to watch this.

888
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: I hope it's like it will be widely available, shoot

889
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: reshoot the film, but splice in these like this is

890
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: a much more interesting story than the made up rich

891
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: white lady who threw her ocean her necklace in the sea.

892
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: But this is where they're at. But yeah, and then

893
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: he released James Cameron did another documentary about Titanic that

894
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: I called Ghosts of the Abyss. Did you see that?

895
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh that was like the one that went back down

896
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: into the sea, right, yeah, submersible one. He's just really

897
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: in love with Titanic the ship, and he's got so

898
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: much money. But this is this is like a story

899
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I've never heard about before. This is I'm so happy

900
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be released equal parts interesting and horrifying.

901
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: So get you good and you're bad. But yeah, to

902
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: know that that's off based off of this other person's

903
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: like true life is really like my mom. Yeah, Jamie

904
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: as a resident Titanic head, I don't know if you'll

905
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: know the answer to this, but I am curious, like,

906
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: why do you was that Titanic such a badass ship

907
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: that we would want to make so many replicas of it?

908
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Because it just seems like, why do we keep trying

909
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: to replicate the Titanic? If it's is this the dumbest question? No?

910
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know if speculating. I feel

911
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: like it's a number of things. I feel like it's

912
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: like a at least for us right now, it's just

913
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: enough in the distant past where it feels like, uh,

914
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it does that? Am I am

915
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: I making sense here? Like it was just long enough

916
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: ago that people aren't like this is ghoulish. Yeah, like

917
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: so it's been you know whatever, almost a hundred ten years.

918
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: I feel like the way that the movie presented it

919
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: was so romantic and also the like the because most

920
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: of the Titanic media, even like before the James Camera movie,

921
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: we're all either it's like you're into it because of

922
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: like the whole like the ship angle and like the

923
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: ego angle and the and and that side of it,

924
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: or it's like you saw like there's like a Night

925
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: to Remember in the fifties and then the James Camera

926
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: movie and just like it was also like romantics and

927
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: glamorous too. Yeah yeah, and it always and I feel

928
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: like this is like part of what this documentary will

929
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: hopefully remedy. But it was always focused on like the

930
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: rich people, um, and the stories were always like this tragic, like,

931
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, this millionaire died. It's so sad and

932
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: it's so I feel like that the truly tragic parts

933
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: of it were like sound like the stories of like

934
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: the six and those were completely erased and it was

935
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: kind of made to be like almost this novelty thing, right,

936
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know wild I have a titan That hoodie

937
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: coming in the mail right now, So this is this

938
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: is throwing. Caitlin and I are recording our annual Titanic

939
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: episode next week. Damn, there we go. Then you can

940
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: talking about that because I just only recently knew that

941
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: the like the one black man that was on the Titanic.

942
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But hey, look, we've got so many stories

943
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: we can tell after this is. But I think for me,

944
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: the reason I want to see it is like I

945
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of want to see it, like I just want

946
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: to see it. I think that's my fascination. And I

947
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: think for me it's truly like the glitz of it,

948
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, look, a bunch of people would

949
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: have not allowed me to eat in here in real life,

950
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: but I thank you for having me. And I think

951
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: it's just like all the white gloved ship, I think

952
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: is like what I think people just have this romanticized

953
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: view of the nineteen tens. I guess chandeliers on a

954
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: boat dancing. Look that's a chandelier, yes, on a boat.

955
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: We must see that. People like the idea of Billy

956
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: Zane on a boat. That's what it all boils down,

957
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: keeps it, yeah, it keeps keeps the memory going strong. Um.

958
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I just wanna add a couple of things before we

959
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: go out. First, just this quick story. I hate to

960
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: bring up Sharon Osborne again, but she's actually getting between

961
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: five and ten million dollars for being racist. So that's great,

962
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and that's the only way I'll talk about this story.

963
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: She's gonna like this is from page six. Sharon is

964
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: walking away with a five to ten million dollar minimum

965
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: payout and was able to spend that. It was her

966
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: decision to leave the show. Cool. Then they also say

967
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: when she's Sharon will talk when she's ready. She still

968
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: wants to give her side of the story. She has

969
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: been at the show for eleven years and knows all

970
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: the secrets. I'm like this ship again about we The

971
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: thing about you was that you were saying wild racist

972
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: ship before this. You were the problem. It wasn't the show.

973
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um so yeah, just for people who

974
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: are talking about council culture, this motherfucker's just got an

975
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: eight figure racist reparations payout package. So I'm sorry, where's

976
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: the damage done here? She was racist and gotta pay.

977
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to draw a clear line

978
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: to that. Um, But check out her new show with

979
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Piers Morgan called how is that racist? Um? Coming soon? Um?

980
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: And good luck to them and God bless them, God

981
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: protect these fabulously wealthy racists. I just I just love

982
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: to see an older woman who's still culturally relevant. You know.

983
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: It's just uh, she's the one benefit, right, I mean,

984
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: let's let's hold that, okay, and now let's let's just

985
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: wrap this up. Let's just take a quick trip to

986
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: the theater to look at two new or stage productions.

987
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: Well not one's not new. One was about to happen,

988
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: but the pandemic messed it up. Um. That are being

989
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: talked about and I don't know if I want to

990
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: see them out of some morbid curiosity or not. Um.

991
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: The first one is Game of Thrones stage production. No, no,

992
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 1: thank you? Come on. Well, I would like to see

993
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: the red wedding on stage. Maybe get like a splashguard

994
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: for the audience. It would be like that scene in

995
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Adams Family Values when they're like just called that blood

996
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: scoring off stage in the school play is getting over everybody.

997
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't know. What the funk this is

998
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: going to be? I mean, this is what they said.

999
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: The play will be set during what the production is

1000
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: calling a pivotal moment in the history of the series. Oh,

1001
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: thank you for the specificity. Oh that's so vague. It's

1002
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: all the five trillion pages long. Well feature many of

1003
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: the well known characters from this series, just the white

1004
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: ones though, according to directors. So that's cool. I couldn't

1005
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: be less interested. Okay, so Game of Thrones, I'm like, okay,

1006
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: we get it. Like you guys are so getting morny

1007
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: for the I p that you'll do fun. When when's

1008
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: the next thing? Like an e SL language study course?

1009
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: That's all Game of Thrones theme. Like they can't stop

1010
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: trying to iterate on this ship. You know, they probably

1011
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: already have like college courses on it that people that

1012
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: people are going into debt for for some reason. I

1013
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: hate this ship. Um, then okay, the next one? What

1014
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: about Diana the musical? Uh? This was supposed to fully

1015
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: debut in March of but maybe the universe or something

1016
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: conspired against it. I don't know. But they are now

1017
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: returning to the stage and there's also going to be

1018
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: like the production will be available like to the greater

1019
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: Netflix audience. Um wow, it's about it's Princess Diana the Musical.

1020
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: And we talked about it, like I think a while back,

1021
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: like this was back in nineteen when we first heard

1022
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: about it, and we were like, is do we? How

1023
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: do we? I just saw the Crown and it did

1024
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: not seem like something you'd make a musical out of.

1025
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: I I this this intrigues me. I kind I'm like,

1026
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm listening. I feel like because like

1027
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: the central character is so compelling, it could be good. Yeah,

1028
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: it's weird the reviews, the initial reviews when they had

1029
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: their preview where it mix of me with a little

1030
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun and campy and quote we didn't

1031
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: need this to be a musical, but whatever. It was

1032
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: like sort of the sentiment because a lot of people

1033
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: are like, well, this didn't need to happen. British audience

1034
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: are going to eat this up. Yeah. I just in

1035
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, well, if a Vida could work,

1036
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, why why not Diana the Musical? But also

1037
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's been a million attempts to replicate

1038
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: a Vida's success that sucked. Yeah, I just want to.

1039
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the soundtrack to that, because you

1040
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: know there's going to be a song called the People's Princess.

1041
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Probably towards the end there's a song called Let's take

1042
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: a Drive in Paris. Oh no, yeah, that that's gonna

1043
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: be such. How does the musical end with her and

1044
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: Dody getting in a car? How we're do you take him?

1045
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Where do you cut it off? Where do you do it?

1046
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: To a baby William and Harry being like mommy, mommy,

1047
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: And then everyone's gonna be like, oh, maybe it ends

1048
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: with candle in the wind, the Elton John version that

1049
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: he's saying at the funeral. And yes, I do still

1050
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: have my People Magazine commemorative issue from from the funeral

1051
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: because I was obsessed with Prince William as a child.

1052
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: I think was recently voted hottest bald man. That is

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Speaker 1: a snow. That's a fucking lie. That's I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you need any proof that polls and are fucked up,

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Speaker 1: that is he is. He's got to be in the

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Speaker 1: bottom two percentile. Yeah, they say that this may be dubious,

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Speaker 1: Uh the report, which I hope it is because it's

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Speaker 1: it's the bald community is not fucking with this, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, A lot of people on the

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Speaker 1: internet were demanding justice for only Tucci. Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's all going to Stanley Tucci's head.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got to be careful with how much

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Speaker 1: we pump up Stanley Tucci. I can see it taking

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Speaker 1: a weird turn. We can't lose the touch, can't. But like,

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Speaker 1: let's we can give him other plots we don't. Don't

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Speaker 1: don't guess him up as sexiest bald man alive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne the Rock Johnson, I think maybe he seems like

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Speaker 1: the safe choice, considering like he is angling for president

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Speaker 1: probably two based on that TV show that he has out,

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Speaker 1: Little Rock or Young Rock or whatever it's called. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's like not a bad show, but it is.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, this is the this is the roll

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Speaker 1: up to something something else in the thing he's running

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Speaker 1: for president in, you know. Yeah, he's talking to Wrangle

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Speaker 1: Park in every episode like ship anyway. Um, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think, well, I'll definitely

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Speaker 1: check out the musical because I'm curious how you can

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Speaker 1: based on the depth of despair that I've seen interwoven

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: into this story and knowing what it was really like

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01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: versus like my childish, you know, nineties idea of what

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Speaker 1: Princess Diana was. I'm like, how do you, how do

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: you do this the right way? Or maybe just so

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01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: campy that we're like, I don't know, forget of all

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: the psychological trauma of just being you know, funcked with

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Speaker 1: by the royal family. I hope it focuses on her.

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Speaker 1: That would be kind of cool. I recently went through

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Speaker 1: the whole um You're wrong about season on Princess Diana

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01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: and really loved it, and there's definitely choose there I had.

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01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: I had so many false ideas about her right that

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Speaker 1: series corrected. So hopefully they did it well, but if not,

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Speaker 1: I'm still going to watch it. So, just as theater fans,

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Speaker 1: how do we see the people's Princess musical number working out?

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Speaker 1: Is it a Is it a street scene with like

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Speaker 1: it's a chorus number and people are like holding newspapers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a street scene, sort of like in

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Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast when like Belle is walking through

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Speaker 1: the town people are kind of popping out the shops.

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Speaker 1: But this is when she wasn't she like a teacher first,

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Speaker 1: so she like, you know, little children are trailing her,

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Speaker 1: and like Diana is coming, Diana, Diana the people something

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Speaker 1: like that. Maybe yeah, it's going to be in the street.

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Speaker 1: And then it's like there's gonna be a little like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I forget what the musical term for this is, but

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Speaker 1: like Prince Charles is going to be on the side,

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: like why doesn't anybody like me? And then I don't

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Speaker 1: go back to the chorus. I mean it kind of

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Speaker 1: writes itself. Yeah, I mean this is actually now making

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Speaker 1: a lot more sense now that it better be so

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Speaker 1: campy that it's just absolutely disrespectful to her. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's your person that I'm like, I don't know.

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01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: This seems like they Disney fight it, but this is

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Speaker 1: what they do. I don't know how you can That's again,

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Speaker 1: the elegance will be how they managed to thread the

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Speaker 1: needle of it being like campy musical while also respecting

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Speaker 1: what her lived experience was without like obscuring it. But

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Speaker 1: I believe it could be done. But then I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is that a musical? I want, you know,

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Speaker 1: and obviously you know, because we want to tell the

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Speaker 1: right story. About Princess Diana, but like, you know, do

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Speaker 1: we just keep it all Sacharin? You know who knows? Yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: well we will find out because it will be available

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Speaker 1: on October one, so christ And will have to have

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Speaker 1: you back in about seven what is that? Four months?

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Speaker 1: Six months? Let's time? Who can't wait? I can't wait. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good. I mean, I'm looking. I'm hoping for some

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Speaker 1: awesome set ship because like, that's why I really like

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Speaker 1: the Shrek Musical because of how awesome to set mechanically. Mechanically,

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Speaker 1: I'm funk with the theater heavy with that terminology, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love those set changes that in that one. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's hope they got the same people from the Shrek

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Speaker 1: Musical to do the Diana musical. I mean what we've

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Speaker 1: talked to today, but Shrek the Musical is so underrated.

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Speaker 1: Everyone thinks you're joking around when you say you like it,

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Speaker 1: but then you watch it and you're like, wait, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: I'm crying. This is so beautiful. It's so good. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe when you said to watch it and I did,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I hate musicals. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this one, this is kind of interesting aside from like

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Speaker 1: kind of the tasteless, a couple of tasteless jokes that

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Speaker 1: somehow got in there. They should cut those from the

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Speaker 1: Netflix cut. I don't know why the funk those are

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Speaker 1: still there. Probably because the homophobia is said in a

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: rhythmic way. They're like, we disrupt the song to remove

1144
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: the homophobia, and you're like, let's just do it. Yeah anyway,

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Speaker 1: Uh so, yes, we'll keep our eyes on that and

1146
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: the West End and Broadway as those productions hit. I

1147
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: think Game of Thrones is fore or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But either way, Kristen, it's been so great having you

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Speaker 1: on the daily like guys, thank you for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me on uh and you can

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Speaker 1: What's give them a little idea about what they can

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Speaker 1: expect on the show, Unladylike is a show about the

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Speaker 1: lived experiences of women who are essentially um kind of

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Speaker 1: breaking the gender rules and forging their own paths. And

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Speaker 1: we do a mix of interviews, storytelling and research and yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you are curious about I don't know, uh, vibrators,

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Speaker 1: selling weed? Um? What else? Why are those those two

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Speaker 1: things that come to mind? Yeah, just those two things

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Speaker 1: then condulate lydy like I am that ven diagram. Vibrators

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Speaker 1: and selling weed? And what's a tweet that you've liked?

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Speaker 1: Is there something on Twitter you'd like to call out?

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Speaker 1: Something you've enjoyed? A chuck? Yes, I have a seasonal

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Speaker 1: tweet from Moira don Agan, who I think yesterday maybe

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Speaker 1: tweeted like the cicada population, I too, will be emerging

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Speaker 1: from hibernation this summer to feel the sun on my

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Speaker 1: face and scream, oh man, it's what the X cicada

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Speaker 1: X or whatever the funk is going to hit? Uh?

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Speaker 1: What is it? All over the East Coast? I know

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Speaker 1: in Maryland and d C. It's definitely one. It's hitting

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Speaker 1: the yea from and she was having this like realization,

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Speaker 1: She's like, it's been seventeen years they are coming back, Like,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I still I'm like, where

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Speaker 1: the hell did the murder hornets go? Have they just

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Speaker 1: been like in and like are they just waiting? Are

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Speaker 1: they just waiting all go outside again? Yeah, they're in,

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Speaker 1: Uh there in like Cansylvania with the Farrell Hawks, Farrell Hawks,

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Speaker 1: They're all they're on that big, big menagerie in this

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Speaker 1: I Jamie, What's where can people find you? Can follow

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Speaker 1: you and supports you? Was a tweet that you like,

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Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter or dot com at

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Speaker 1: Jamie Loftis help Instagram, Jamie christ Superstar and I'll shout

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Speaker 1: out I guess like this is the core mess. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm going to shout out a series of Maryann Williamson tweets.

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Speaker 1: Uh this last night she was just tweeting, tweeting, tweeting

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Speaker 1: about birds, birds, birds. She was tweeting pictures of birds

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Speaker 1: and her thoughts on them. Uh, there's a I don't

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Speaker 1: know anything about birds. I'm sure that there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of serious bird issues. Uh, but she needs to

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01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: collab with Katie Golden. I was like to say, anyone

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Speaker 1: know better than I would about the whole bird situation.

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Speaker 1: But she, I mean, Marianne, I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: she really has been on a fun redemption arc. She

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Speaker 1: attaches a picture of a gorgeous bird. Couldn't tell you more.

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Speaker 1: It says, I hate to have to tell you this,

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Speaker 1: but industrialized farming has destroyed half of the world bird population.

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Speaker 1: How dare we? And that was just when she fired

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Speaker 1: off at like eleven at night from her mansion. I

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: love that, like in between talking about like whatever, the

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Speaker 1: imagine a world with no hunger and but birds. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if she just like watches documentaries and she's like, oh, shoot,

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Speaker 1: I gotta treat about this. You know about half the

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Speaker 1: birds you've seen c spiracy yet Yeah, she's she's gonna, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna watch Blackfish. Should be like, God, what are

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Speaker 1: we doing? What are we doing? Whatever the name was

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Speaker 1: that will shout shout out to Marianne and her her

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Speaker 1: bird concerns. Oh man um. Some tweets that I am enjoying.

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Speaker 1: First one is from Noah Garfinkel, and Noah Garfinkel tweeted

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Speaker 1: waiting in line for four hours for a vaccine and

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Speaker 1: then when I got my hand behind the privacy thing

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Speaker 1: they gave me a lunch a bowls and said just

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Speaker 1: eat this real fast, there's no virus. Do not try

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Speaker 1: to get your vaccine at an abandoned toys r rush

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Speaker 1: Why that whole setup was so absurd? Another one, Sabrina

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Speaker 1: at Sabrina Fawn tweeted every Day Megan McCain, daughter of

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Speaker 1: a senator and heiress of the Anheuser Busch Fortune, goes

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Speaker 1: on TV and tells Whoopee and Sunny, who both grew

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Speaker 1: up in the projects, how wilde us they are. So

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Speaker 1: I love that one um and then one more um

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Speaker 1: Ian pat ian Paul Duke's tweets quote, at least you're

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Speaker 1: keeping buzzy end quote. Yeah, I'd hate to be relaxing

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Speaker 1: for one second. It's the thing that we always at

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Speaker 1: least you're keeping busy. No, that's not always the thing

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Speaker 1: that we need. So yeah, I felt that one. You

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Speaker 1: can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram,

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website daily zeit geist dot com where

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Speaker 1: we post the episodes and our footnotes. Thank you. Then

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Speaker 1: well that's just then, that's what I's gonna post. The

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Speaker 1: song that we're gonna write out on uh and the

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Speaker 1: track that we're gonna write out on today is another

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Speaker 1: remix from Nick Bike Demand from Canada, but this one

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Speaker 1: is Addiction Uh Kanye West and it's just like I

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Speaker 1: got a good four on the floor house vibe to it.

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Speaker 1: So again, keep you, keep you dancing, um and like

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Speaker 1: you always say, this show is a production of I

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Speaker 1: that will do it for today. Rather, we'll see you

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Speaker 1: later in a few for some trends. But until then,

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Speaker 1: we love you, take care and goodbye.