1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: The New York Times has lost its mind, and we 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: all know that's already true, but it's been confirmed yet again. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: In the wake of jd Vance hosting Charlie Kirk's show yesterday, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: they freaked out again. Who is surprised? Also, the Emmys 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: happened over the weekend and one massive component of culture 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: was missing. I can guarantee you can guess what that is. 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about what that means as far as 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: the significance on American culture. We are continuing to chart 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback here at Turning Point tonight. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in. This is Turning 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Point tonight. And before we get to our stories today, 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: I gotta remind everyone you can email the show TPT 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: at tpusa dot com. It has been a flood of emails, messages, 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: social media or otherwise that have been sent in tp 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: at tpusa dot com, people with their stories and memories 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: and reminiscing on Charlie and well wishes to the Kirk family. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Those can all go there. We will try again today's 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: time permitting to read some of those again TPT at 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. The first thing I would like to 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: address that needs to be addressed because people, everybody needs 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: to know how to combat this if the argument were 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: to ever present itself to you in real life, and 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: that is the ridiculous lib argument of oh well, this 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: is just conservative cancel culture. I have, of course talking 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: about the firings of people who celebrated the assassination of 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and them no longer being employed at the 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: place that they work. We've seen this across a number 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: of different companies. Microsoft be one of them, Perkins Koi Quah, 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. The North Carolina Panthers 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: fired some staff over what they've said. Plenty of different 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: companies have now parted ways with people that refuse to 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: not celebrate the assassination or the murder of my friend, 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: your friend, Charlie Kirk, which is disgusting. Office Depot Nasdaq, 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen that Office Depot clip where they 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: refuse to print a photo of Charlie saying well, this 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: is political propaganda and we don't print that here. It 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: is disgusting and disturbing to watch. But I hope that 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: you find solace in the fact that those people no 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: longer work at that place now when it comes to. 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: What the difference is. It's this, It's very simple. It's truth. Well, 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: for example, let's just take two things that society has 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: agreed on since, well forever, just for example here, One 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a man is a man and not a woman, and 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: two a well, murder is bad. Those two things are true. 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: We can all agree on them. Society has agreed on 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: them since the dawn of time, or at least since 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: people have been discussing morals and ethics and characteristics of 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: a functioning civilization. Now, the accusation being thrown at conservatives 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: now is, well, if you're getting these people fired for 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: what they said, doesn't that contradict what you were talking 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: about all those years ago when people were getting fired 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: on your side for what they said. Isn't that like 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: a shoe on the other foot, isn't that a ironic? 54 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: Isn't that the opposite of what you believe? Well, the 55 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: answer is no, because of truth. See, society agrees on 56 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: these two things. When people were getting fired for saying, hey, 57 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: a man is a man and therefore not a woman, 58 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and therefore they shouldn't use the bathrooms, we were all 59 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: upset about that because that person was being unjustly forced 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: to face consequences for saying things that are just true, 61 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: agreeing with the societal truth. Now, when people are celebrating 62 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, when they're celebrating murder, they 63 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: are effectively saying, well, no, no, no, murder is not bad, 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: which is a societal truth. Instead, it's actually good. They're 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: getting fired not because of any sort of cancel culture, 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: because they have a misalignment with the societal truth. And 67 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: therefore the consequence of that is society as a whole 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: saying we don't want anything to do with you whatsoever. 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: It's not some sort of double sided Well this is 70 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: what you said that and this was you know, it's 71 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: a completely different thing. If you have an opinion, that's 72 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: one thing. If you say something that goes completely against 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: what the entirety of society believes, it's not an opinion, 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: and therefore you have to face the consequences of again 75 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: dealing with society that no longer wants to deal with you. 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: That is the argument. The difference that we express is truth, 77 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: and if people disagree with the societal truth, they have 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: to face the consequences of doing that. The only reason 79 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: we said, hey, that's not fair is because people that 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: we like that are on our side that acknowledge reality. 81 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: We're saying things that were true, they agreed with truth, 82 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and were being unjustly put through consequences because of that. 83 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: If you're going to reject a societal truth and celebrate 84 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: a death and say no, actually, murder is a good thing, 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: it's not an opinion. That's just a misalignment with the 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: reality around you. And I wish I could feel more 87 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: bad for these folks. Actually no, I don't. Who am 88 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I kidding? I don't feel bad for them at all. 89 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I hope though, that they get the help that they need, 90 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I'd be willing to accept apologies. That 91 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean they avoid all consequences, but apologies are 92 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: welcome if you have such a deranged opinion that murder 93 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: for some reason is good. Outside of those heartfelt, sincere, 94 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: genuine apologies, I'm on JD. Van's side with this, as 95 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure all of you are. There is no uniting 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: with evil in any way, shape or form. Now, just 97 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: to highlight this a little bit more, I wanted to 98 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: dive in to a specific case. There are honestly two 99 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: many of these we can do one or two of 100 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: these a day for the next year and a half 101 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and never get finished with all of them. But I 102 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: wanted to highlight this specific instance that I thought was 103 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: really really interesting. The Washington Post apparently fired some lady 104 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: named Karen Attia. I have no idea of her work. 105 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea of anything that she's ever done. 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: All I know is that she's angry that she got 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: fired from the Washington Post. Now the question is was 108 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: her firing justified if you look specifically to her, which 109 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: many news outlets have Politico I think The Hill just had. Well, 110 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: this is her response to her being fired. You will 111 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: find things like this. On Monday, she posted to her subject, 112 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna read it in my oh no voice. 113 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: As a columnist, I used my voice to defend freedom 114 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: and democracy, challenge power, and reflect on culture and politics 115 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: with honesty and conviction. Now I'm being so violence for 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: doing my job. Oh really, Karen, is that why you're 117 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: being silenced? Is that why you're being fired from the 118 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Washington Post? Well, interestingly enough, on several of the articles 119 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: that you'll read coming up, you won't actually see what 120 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: she said. But good news, the internet is forever, so 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: we have that. She said on Blue Sky, refusing to 122 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: tear my clothes and smearhashers on my face and performative 123 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: morning for a white man who espoused violence is not 124 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: the same as violence. Well, one to comment on the 125 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: last part of that, Yeah, your people did the violence, 126 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: so I guess it's technically not the same with the 127 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: people on your own side. I'm not sure how you 128 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: square that in your head. But two, you know, okay, 129 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: find me the clip of Charlie espousing violence. And I'm 130 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: not talking about your made up violence words are violence, 131 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: speech or violence. That's not a real thing, and we 132 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: all agree that that's not a real thing. I'm talking 133 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: about physical violence. Charlie wanting someone to be injured or 134 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: hurt or harmed or even killed for their thoughtsant you. 135 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: You won't find him, So that is either a lie 136 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: or you're just so stupid you don't know that it 137 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: is a lie. She went on on substack to say, this, 138 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: my only direct reference to Kirk was one post his 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: own words on record. She then included a screenshot. She 140 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: said this, this is the quote that she's saying. This 141 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: is the only thing I said, and it was his 142 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: own words she said, do not have brain Black women 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. 144 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: You had to steal a white person slot. Wow. Wait, 145 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: what an awful quote that is. I wonder if that's 146 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: in context and saying the things that she's meaning it 147 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: to say. Well, good news. We have the clip and 148 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to play that clip for you right now. 149 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: This is Charlie from the Charlie Kirk Show saying the 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: things that she said he said, but clearly not the 151 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: way that she claims that he said them. Check this out. 152 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: You really have to wonder, in fact, if we would 153 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have 154 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Shila Jackson 155 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Lee and Catangi Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we 156 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: would have been called the bis. But now they're coming 157 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out 158 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action. Yeah, 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: we know, you do not have the brain processing power 160 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go 161 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: steal a white person slot to go be taken somewhat seriously. 162 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Play cut fifty two. 163 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Okay before we play that, and I do want to 164 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: play that. Yeah, a case in point, he wasn't saying that. 165 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: He thinks that. He's saying that. You're effectively saying that 166 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: because you think, well, I only got here because affirmative action. 167 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: What you're effectively then saying is diminishing the value of 168 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the people that you claim to help. That's the whole thing, 169 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: that's the whole argument. So maybe maybe miss Karen a Tea, 170 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: whatever her name is, maybe he got fired. Well, maybe 171 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: in part because of the horrible things just say, you 172 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: refuse to cry over a white man, because that makes 173 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: a difference for any sort of reason. Maybe you got 174 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: fired because you're a bad journalist. Maybe in the ten 175 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: year tenure that this lady had at the Washington Post, 176 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: everybody at the Washington Post was going, hey, she's not 177 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: very good at her job. She was hired only because 178 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: she was a DEI higher. We wouldn't otherwise have hired her. 179 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: But she happens to be a black woman, and therefore, yeah, 180 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, we got to meet quotas because the whole 181 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: racial injustice thing or whatever that is. Maybe that's the 182 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: reason she got fired. Maybe she got fired because she 183 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: was so bad at her job. She would say something 184 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: so irresponsible and think, hey, the internet exists. We have 185 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: the clip that you're referencing here, and we know that 186 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: that's not what he said. I want to continue playing 187 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: that clip because he's talking about a congresswoman here, and 188 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: that congresswoman. I just thought this was also interesting to 189 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: basically reiterate the point we think that people saying they 190 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: needed affirmative action diminishes their own value. And all we're 191 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: doing is repeating that. 192 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: Watch this, but I rise today as a clear recipient 193 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: of aff affirmative action. I'm particularly in higher education. I 194 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: may have been admitted on affirmative action, both in terms 195 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: of being a woman and a woman of color, but 196 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: I can declare that I did not graduate on affirmative action. 197 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: This is my personal story. 198 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's hard to believe the second part of 199 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: that if you're going to admit the first part of 200 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: that I got in on affirmative action. I got in 201 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: because not only am I a woman, I'm a woman 202 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: of color. But I didn't graduate because of affirmative action. 203 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh totally. Yeah. The day during the emissions process. What 204 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: you don't understand is they admit people that are below 205 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the line in which they would admit people. But while 206 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: they're at school, there's no you know, denigration of what 207 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: they actually need to do to accomplish the schooling process 208 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: and graduate with agree that there's no way that would 209 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: ever happen. But like you said, the entire thing hinges 210 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: on the fact that there are people out there that say, yeah, 211 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: I got in on affirmative action. How much of it 212 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: is it a crime to then say, Okay, well, yeah, 213 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: we know, and therefore we can judge you on a 214 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: different scale because you didn't have to come in on 215 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: the same scale as everybody else. That's all he was saying. 216 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: And the lady that got fired from the Washington Post 217 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: either should have known that or was just lying. Either way, 218 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: I think it makes it so that she shouldn't be 219 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: a journalist. That's kind of the whole thing. Yeah, the 220 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: whole race commentary was bad. And on top of that, 221 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: in her response, she proved that she was unfit for 222 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: the job that she had again probably maybe even possibly 223 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: possibly maybe even probably that was because of a DEI 224 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: in the first place. So there's that there's a lot 225 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. We've got the firing of 226 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: a Microsoft guye. It will be a little bit more lighthearted, 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: but still you know, in reverence of Charlie Kirk, who 228 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: is a man we all knew and love. But setting 229 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: the record straight is what we're gonna be doing today. 230 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I recognize the format here is a little bit different. 231 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: We're not as hokey, we're not as you know, fun 232 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: about the news because there is some serious things that 233 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: need to be talked about. We talked about this last week. 234 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: We're going to discuss it at some point, and that 235 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: time has come, so further on, we're going to talk 236 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: about the Emmys, which was really interesting. We're going to 237 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: talk to conservative ants about some the particulars of his 238 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: relationship with Charlie and his movements relationship with Charlie. We're 239 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: also we're also going to watch some hilarious videos of 240 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: some libs getting fired because again they disagreed with the 241 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: truth that society has set forward and therefore have to 242 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: face the consequences of society not wanting to deal with them. 243 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Don't go away it, We'll be right back after the break. 244 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to turning Point. Tonight. We're together, We're charting 245 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. TPT at TPUSA dot 246 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: com is the email. It's been fantastic to go through 247 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: all of the different emails of people with the well 248 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: wishes and memories of Charlie. Again, we will try to 249 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: get to some of those towards the end of the 250 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: show if time permits. There's a lot of stuff to 251 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: get to, a lot of stuff to talk about. Now, 252 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you about a programming discussion that happened 253 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of the commercial. The clip that we 254 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: had queued up was not necessarily the one that I 255 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: thought at the time it was. Now, I do want 256 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: to play this for one specific reason, and that is 257 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: because several people that I know and respect to got 258 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: duped by this. And the reason is not their fault. 259 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's their fault. I think it's the 260 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: fact that this is so convincing and apparently not fake. Sorry, 261 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: apparently it is fake. But that's hard to know because 262 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: what parody is impossible nowadays with the insanity on the left. 263 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: We told you we're going to talk about a video 264 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: for Microsoft, but again during the commercial break is brought 265 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: to our attention that this video is parody. Although you 266 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: might not know and several people I know didn't know 267 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: before playing it on their show. Watch this, we're gonna 268 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: play it to an entirety and we'll discuss. 269 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: I made some stupid comments about Charlie Kirk and today 270 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: that he was shot. I said some things on Blue 271 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: Sky and on Threads that. 272 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 5: I I'm sorry, not sorry for, but I said them, 273 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: and I deleted them when it was requested that I 274 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: do so by my employer. 275 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: And then today on a weekend, on a weekend, I'm 276 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: told that I am no longer employed at Microsoft after 277 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: six years building the diversity, equity and inclusion to part 278 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: from scratch. 279 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: That's okay, and kill this. I think we've understanding well enough. 280 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: That was the part where we probably should have been like, oh, yeah, 281 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: this this seems fishy. Is that that's too good, that's 282 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: too rich. So just so you all know, we had 283 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: this video cued up and then just as a part 284 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: of his due diligence to producer, Glenn and said, uh, shoot, 285 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: this video isn't actually real, which again is more indicative 286 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: of the fact that there are videos like that that 287 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: are real. So we scrambled and we found a couple 288 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: other of those that are like that, which will bring 289 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: to you in a second, but again further proving the 290 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: point that sometimes parody is impossible in a world that 291 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: is so absurd as it is. Now, if you would 292 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: have told me this is believe this is one hundred 293 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: percent legit, I would have believed you. Now earlier we 294 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: said that market Microsoft hasn't fired employees. They have, but 295 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't that guy. That guy was doing a sketch, which, unfortunately, 296 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: in our world of modern absurd insanity, you can't really 297 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. And I really wonder maybe we 298 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: should have done this in a different way. But I 299 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: really wonder if we had just played that, been upset 300 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: about it, and then said it was parody, how many 301 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: of you would have gone, Now, that's that's legit. That 302 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: makes that makes a lot of sense. He's got the 303 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: nos ering. He was the DEI guy. He's posting a 304 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: video like this hilarious. Well, it's not hilarious. People that 305 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: are actually posting things that are actually saying the cruel 306 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: and awful things, not as a parody, not mocking the vote. Well, actually, 307 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: these are the folks that this guy was mocking. This 308 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: is a professor at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Ta. 309 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Mara Shanierian, I don't know how to pronounce it. I 310 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: don't care. Graphic one, Glen, go ahead and pull that up. 311 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: She's been fired after her viral post celebrating Charlie's death. 312 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: Now let's just read this post. I know this might 313 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: make you a little bit angry, might feel a little 314 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: bit of emotion here. But a professor at a universe 315 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: in the anthropology department, so I guess maybe not really 316 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: A professor said this. The world is better off without him, 317 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: even those who are claiming it sad for his wife 318 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: and kids, Like his kids are better off living in 319 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: a world without a disgusting psychopath like him. And his wife, well, 320 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: she's a sick f for marrying him. I don't care 321 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: about her feelings. Okay, Like we mentioned earlier in the beginning, 322 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: this is the type of person that we just don't 323 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: want in our society. Not to say that, you know, 324 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: we want anything bad to happen to her. That's not 325 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying at all. But as a part of 326 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: the civil civic discourse, Nope, don't need them as a 327 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: part of the workforce. Don't need them. I also got 328 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: a ton of flag from this from the libertarians on 329 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: the internet. The other day, I called for, Hey, if 330 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: somebody loses their job because they are glorifying the assassination 331 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: of a political figure, let alone a husband and father, 332 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: they should not get a government benefits either. How about 333 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: that you get fired, and you know, you don't get 334 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: food stamps, you don't get housing vouchers, you don't get 335 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: any of the things that the government provides to people 336 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: who get fired or find themselves unemployed. Now my argument 337 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: to that would I don't think that should exist for anybody, 338 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: But because it does exist, so's at least set some 339 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: parameters and some limits. That was the problem I got. Well, 340 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: the government can't decide who gets these benefits and who doesn't. 341 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: How about this, nobody gets the benefits, but specifically those people, 342 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: specifically the people that are celebrating something so heinous and 343 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: so horrible. Maybe those people don't get the benefits. And 344 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you know what that would require them to do. It 345 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: would force them back into the original charity, which would 346 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: be the church, which would be exactly what Charlie would 347 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: have wanted. So people like that exist, be careful because 348 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: they are around you. This is the thing with my 349 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: wife and I've said over and over again, the most 350 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: disturbing part of this is these people exist among us, 351 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: which is scary to think about when you're walking around thinking, 352 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is more prevalent than I would 353 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: have thought. But in addition to that, we got this 354 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: clip from another guy who and this is real. This 355 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: is a guy who has been now suspended for posting 356 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: a video like this celebrating Charlie's murder. Clip seven. 357 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 6: A man who hated the LGBTQ community, who hated women's rights, 358 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 6: who hated democracy, who thought that he was a big 359 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: man because he went to college campuses and debated college 360 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 6: students and thought he proved how tough he was with 361 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: his words, that he studied ahead of time. What a 362 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 6: piece of garbage. This is what happens. 363 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Go ahead and stay on this clipland I want to 364 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I want to see this bozos face. What's his name? 365 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: Benjamin Pillow as a teacher at a high school in 366 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: the Barrington High School community. Barrington's school community sent out 367 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: an email saying, Hey, we were informing parents that he 368 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: is on paid administration to leave, although there are students 369 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: now taking to the classroom saying he should be fired. 370 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: But again to the point, what kind of argument does 371 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: this like, what kind of argument is Okay, well, he 372 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: hated the LGBTQ. We'll actually address that in a segment 373 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: further down the line with the conservative ant because I 374 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: do think that is necessary to discuss considering Charlie's being 375 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: called all of the ists, misogynist, homophobic, all of the 376 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: things that are not true, just being labeled as such. 377 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: What does he go on to say? Then he talks 378 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: about women's rights, women's healthcare. That's my favorite argument, not 379 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: to go on too much of a tangent. Women's healthcare 380 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: is at risk. Oh yeah, like if my wife sprains 381 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: her ankle all of a sudden, she's not gonna be 382 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: able to get care. No, no, tall it one really is. 383 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: Call it what he really is, you sikos killing babies. 384 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: That's what this actually is, women's health care. But then 385 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: to make the grander point that he's making. Oh sorry, 386 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: before that, he said too, I can't think he's a 387 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: big man because he's going on college campuses that he's 388 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: studied and prepared for this. Yeah, you should do that too, 389 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: do you not? Do you not read ahead of time? 390 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: And like study for questions that you might be asked 391 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: by students in your classroom. There's a factor right there. 392 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Just like the lady in the Washington Post should have 393 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: gotten fired not because of what she posted, but because 394 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: she's bad at her job. Maybe this guy who apparently 395 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: thinks that that is an anomaly. Yeah, this guy going 396 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: to college campus is just saying things that he learned 397 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: from reading. Who does that you should be doing that, dude, 398 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: that's it's kind of the whole point of being a 399 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: teacher and an educator. But then to his broader term 400 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: of oh, this is what you get, Okay? Cool? I 401 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: mean we could be furious and disgusted and horrified, and 402 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: I am, but also this is just a telltale sign 403 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, we don't need you in the workforce, 404 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and we don't want to be sure, sect don't want 405 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: to be paying for whatever subsidies that you might be 406 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: getting while out of the workforce. A civil society that 407 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: has agreed upon a certain norm and a certain truth 408 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: needs to uphold that truth. And if they can't, and 409 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: people like this go unpunished by going on paid administrative leave. 410 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: We will update you, by the way, in case that 411 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: is changed throughout the course of this week, against students 412 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: have been clamoring for this guy to be fired, which 413 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: he should be, because he disagrees with one of the 414 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: fundamental truths of our society that murder is bad, which 415 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: everybody agrees with. Will keep you updated on whether or 416 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: not that changes. But people like out, people like this 417 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: guy exist. Not much else more to say in that 418 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: it's horrifying, it's disgusting, and I can't help but be 419 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: appreciative of the folks that are doing the work to 420 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: expose all of the people in our society that are 421 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: not quote unquote getting canceled for their opinion, because again, 422 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: disagreeing with truth is not an opinion. I'm super grateful 423 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: for the folks that are doing all of the work 424 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: to make sure people are getting held accountable not by 425 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: their opinions, but that the way that they view the world. 426 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: And like I said a number of times, I do 427 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: hope they change their mind. There's a place for redemption, 428 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: there is a place for people to genuinely reverse course, 429 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and Charlie, of all people, would be the first person 430 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: to welcome that. But they do have to show contrition, 431 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: They do have to show that, yes, we made a mistake, 432 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and we genuinely recognize that mistake and we would like 433 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: acceptance going forward. But until then, Bye bye audios. Whatever 434 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: term you want to use to say that society is 435 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: not better with you a part of it doesn't mean 436 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I want any violence. That doesn't mean I want anything 437 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm simply saying that the firing 438 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: of folks that are like this are really, you know, 439 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: to protect the people that work at that place from 440 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: individuals who have such a deranged look on the world. 441 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: So I can't say I'm sorry, but it's a it's 442 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: a reality of truth. Love it or hate it. I 443 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: currently love it at this moment, despite the horror, horrific 444 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: tragedy it is. It is somewhat heartening to see how 445 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: society can bounce back and just completely eliminate this sort 446 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: of just grotesque insanity. Ranted on that for probably longer 447 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: than I was supposed to, but we will be right 448 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: back after the break. I want to discuss the Emmys 449 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: and what they didn't mention on the the their cultural 450 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: award show over the weekend. I'm sure you could probably guess, 451 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: but if not, go ahead, We'll be right back after 452 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to turning point. Tonight, we're together. 453 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember 454 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: you can email the show anytime you want. TPT at 455 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. I promised that eventually we'll get to 456 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: some emails, But as we go through the show, I'm 457 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: just looking at all the things we got to talk about, 458 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure there's gonna be a ton of 459 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: time to do that. I wish there were. I apologize 460 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: in advance. If we're hoping for that, maybe maybe we'll 461 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: do an extended thing sometimes to get to get some 462 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: of those emails out, because again, some of them are fantastic, 463 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful seeing so many people who were touched 464 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: by Charlie, who have changed the course of their life 465 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: due to Charlie. So again, TPT at TPOSA dot com 466 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: if you want to send those well wishes or memories along, 467 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to talk about the well We've 468 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: been talking specifically a lot about how some of the 469 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: crazy people on the lib side of the aisle are 470 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: acting in response to again a heinous murder and assassination 471 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. What is interesting is seeing how some 472 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: of the mainstream media is responding to our response from this. Yesterday, 473 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: jd Vance, the Vice President of the United States, hosted 474 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Charlie's podcast Slash Radio show and said things that I 475 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: think we all agree to be true. During the last 476 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: segment of yesterday's show, we show jd Vance saying there 477 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: is no unity between people who disagree fundamentally with reality. 478 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Obviously put it in much nicer terms and probably pinpointed 479 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: a little bit better, but that's what effectively was saying, Hey, 480 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: if you don't agree with the truth and therefore you 481 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: can justify murder, there's no unity with that toward person. 482 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: There is unity with people who disagree with us. There's 483 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: unity between folks who think, yeah, you know, I think 484 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: the government should do this versus this, but also agree, yeah, 485 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be killing people. There shouldn't be political assassinations. 486 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: There could be unity with those folks in the unity 487 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: around yeah, let's not murder each other in cold blood 488 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: for our difference in belief, but there can't be unity 489 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: with people who don't agree with that, and therefore there 490 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of refrain from using some of the 491 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: terminology that I think I'd like to use, But there 492 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: was a lot of discussion on the lip side of 493 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: the Island. I thought this piece from the New York 494 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: Times was particularly interesting. Now, remember I just said, JD. 495 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Vance said. We have all said we can agree on 496 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: different things and how they look in regards to how 497 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: we think the country should be run. What we can't 498 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: disagree on is whether or not the fundamental values not 499 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: murdering each other for our political beliefs is bad. We 500 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: have to agree that that is bad, and if we can't, 501 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: there's no way forward. Encompassed in the people that we 502 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: can disagree with civilly but still respect are liberals. That's 503 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: just the reality of it. Liberals can be encompassed in that, 504 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: especially if they believe that political assassination is bad. This 505 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: is a New York Times headline that I'm curious to 506 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: see if you think leads up to that or fulfills 507 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: that idea of Hey, liberals can be in the fold 508 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: of decent modern society. When they say this the White 509 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: House plans to plans broad crackdown on liberal groups, did 510 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: anybody say that, Did anybody say, broadly speaking, we're just 511 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna start cracking down on liberals or did they be 512 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: precise with their language and precision and language is what 513 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: we've been talking about a lot on this show lately. 514 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Or did jd. Vance say, no, no, the radicals. Did 515 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: President Trump say the radicals, because that's what they're saying. 516 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Yet The New York Times says broad crackdown on liberal groups. 517 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Some of the highest ranking officials, says The New York 518 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Times in the federal government, used Charlie Kirk's podcast guest 519 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: hosted by President Jdvance, to lay out their plans. President 520 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Trump and his top advisors threatened on Monday to unleash 521 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: the power of the federal government to punish what they 522 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: allege is left wing network funds that incite violence. Yeah, yes, yeah, 523 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: we should do that now. I would guarantee you, though, 524 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: that President Trump would not say that the people that 525 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: incite violence, that think violence is okay, are not encompassed 526 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: in the broad lefty movement. But that's what The New 527 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: York Times says. That's the language that they use. They 528 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: specific say funds that incite violence. Investigator, Oh, there's just 529 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a line. This is the throwaway line that I thought 530 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: was just fascinating. Investigators are still working to identify the 531 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: motive of the death of mister Kirk. Okay, I don't. 532 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: We don't even need to dive into that discussion. I think, 533 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: despite anything, let's just take all of that evidence out 534 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: of it. What we saw was an entire internet response celebrating, 535 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: which is just as bad in my opinion, maybe not 536 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: just as bad, but it's ninety five percent of the 537 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: way there. So that is what it is. Interestingly enough 538 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: people in Congress started weighing in. This is again. In 539 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: the New York Times, they report that Senator Chris Murphy 540 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: of Connecticut said, pay attention. The murder of Charlie Kirk 541 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: could have united United Americans to confront political violence. Instead, 542 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: President Trump and his anti democratic radicals look to be 543 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: readying a campaign to destroy dissent. Is that really what 544 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: they're doing? Say, hey, the radical leftists that promote violence, 545 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: we can all agree that that's bad. Instead, Senator Murphy says, 546 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: they're crushing descent, destroying descent, all right. Congressman Greg Casser 547 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: says of Trump, he cannot be allowed to use the 548 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: horrible murder of Charlie Kirk is a pretext to go 549 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: after peaceful political opposition. Again, nobody is doing that. Are 550 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: the are the folks that are going after the peaceful 551 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: political opposition in the room with us. Now, Congressman Caster, 552 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: is that are they among us as we speak, because 553 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: clearly they are the delusions in your own head, because 554 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: no one is freaking saying that. And it's hard to 555 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: not laugh at this because it's so ridiculous and absurd. 556 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: But the problem is that this is these are people 557 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: with actual power. These are people with voices in our 558 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: government saying things that are objectively not true. And interestingly enough, 559 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: if you go further down in the New York Times, 560 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: they even say the true thing. This is a and 561 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: from that article in the New York Times saying the 562 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: White House plans broad or crack down on liberal groups, 563 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: when that is not what happened. They said, we're gonna 564 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna go after the radicals that are in citing violence. 565 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: But again they choose to encompass all liberals in that, 566 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and the Senator and the Congressman seem to agree. This 567 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: is also from that article. Two senior administration officials, who 568 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal planning, said, 569 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: the cabinet secretaries and federal department heads we're working to 570 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: identify organizations that funded or supported violence against conservatives. Yeah, unless, 571 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: of course, you're burying the lead here and all liberal 572 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: groups support violence against conservatives. That's not what we're talking about, unless, 573 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: of course it is, unless it's an admission, Unless Senator 574 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Murphy or unless Congressman cast are admitting that all liberals 575 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: want to do violence against conservatives, which I don't believe, 576 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm just trying to prove a point. 577 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Unless they're admitting that all the things that they said 578 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: are alive. Everything they said is trying to create police 579 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: fervor on their own side, using the pretext to go 580 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: after peaceful political opposition, says Congressman Casser when in the 581 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: article that he's quoted in saying that says, yeah, supported 582 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: and funding violence against conservatives. That's what the president is 583 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: going after, and they should, by the way, they should 584 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: go after people that are funding and supporting political violence 585 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: against their ideological opposites. That should happen, and I'm glad 586 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: that they are doing that. But for the New York 587 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: Times and for the Senator and Congressman among many others, 588 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure to try and twist it as well. Liberals 589 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: more broadly are going to be affected by this people 590 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: who are just peacefully protesting, and saying that those people 591 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: are also in the fold of the folks that like violence. 592 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: Either one is an admission or two is a bold 593 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: faced lie. Don't have any other way to put it. 594 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: You want to talk about being responsible in your language, 595 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: take some of your own advice. New York Times, we 596 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: write back. After the break, we're going to discuss the 597 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk impact with Anthony Ramandi Conservative Ants. We're also 598 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: going to talk about the Emmys. I know we've been 599 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: promised to talk about that. That'll be right back. That'll 600 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: be after the break. Don't go away, It'll be right back. 601 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where we are still 602 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email 603 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: the show TPT at tpusa dot com if you've got 604 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: memories of Charlie or well wishes TPT at tpusa dot com. 605 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: We've loved seeing every single one of the emails come through, 606 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully time permitting, will get to some of those. 607 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: At the end of the show, I want to talk 608 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: to a guy who hates being called an influencer, but 609 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: he has a huge amount of influence, almost a million 610 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram. Conservative aunt Anthony Rimandi, who's a friend 611 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: of Rav Frond of the network, also a friend of Charlie. Anthony, 612 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: we've been kind of just talking to people just broadly 613 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: and generically about Charlie and his impact on you. What 614 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: was Charlie to you. We'll give you the floor and 615 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of open it up as broadly as you want 616 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: it to be. 617 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, thanks for having me on. You know, Charlie 618 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 7: was an inspiration to people who had different opinions, and 619 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 7: he really broke down things for me and helped me 620 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 7: understand stuff that maybe I didn't. And he was the 621 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 7: most non confrontational person I think in our entire movement. 622 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 7: I mean, he was always the voice of reason, right. 623 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 7: He would bring people to the front and have them 624 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 7: talk and say let them talk, whereas I'm not as 625 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 7: calm or calculated. So like the fact that he's considered 626 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 7: controversial is like insanely wild to me. And that's why 627 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 7: I think it hits like all of us so much, 628 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 7: just because it was like if anyone like Charlie was 629 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 7: the guy you wanted to end up running into because 630 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 7: he would let you anybody talk. Yeah, So it's hard 631 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 7: I mean it's like every day. It's like every time 632 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 7: you talk about him, that's it's like heavy. 633 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, when when we went to the 634 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: your solo shot, I think people saw on the wall 635 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: that American Pride banner that you've got there, which is 636 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: which is interesting, Which is another thing that I would 637 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: like to bring up. Uh, you know that I only 638 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: view you as an American, as a patriot, and as 639 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: a fighter in the conservative movement. You also happened to 640 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: be gay. And I think there's a video out there 641 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: that you had posted that I would love to show 642 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: viewers because Charlie is getting smeared as this homophobic, misogynistic, racist, 643 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: anti like all of the things, all of the ists 644 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: he's been getting slandered as. I want viewers to see 645 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: this video and that I would love your response. This 646 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: is something you post yesterday. We cut it down a 647 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: little bit for time, but watch this. 648 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask a very respectful question, as 649 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: respectfully as I can. What does what they do in 650 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: their private life concern you so much that you have 651 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 2: to go up in front of a crowd. 652 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: And it is against God? That is, Are you a 653 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: Christian or not? 654 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: Do we live in a theocracy, yes or no? No's 655 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: do we live in a theocrisy? 656 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: You said you're a Christian. I am a Christian and 657 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: do you know what? 658 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: And guess what? I will say. This part of being 659 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: a Christian is appropriately interpreting what the theological says for 660 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: the individual, but also means to be long suffering and 661 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: patient and loving and kind. Jesus Christ talked to all people. 662 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ went and did his ministry through Judea and Samaria, 663 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: and he had dinner with text collectors, and he had 664 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: dinner with prostitutes, and he did his ministry in every 665 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: part of the Mediterranean. What it means to be a Christian, 666 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 2: my friend, is to be open minded but firm in 667 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: your belief. 668 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: So you can have that belief. 669 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: But if you say that's something inherently wrong with communicating 670 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: or associating just because they make different personal decisions than you, 671 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: then you, sir, are not a conservative. Thanks for being 672 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: here tonight. 673 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: You know I think that this is I mean, that's 674 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: just I think very powerful. Charlie was a big time 675 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: open tent, a big, big tent conservative that welcomed everybody 676 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: in the movement and honestly there's a lot of people 677 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: in the movement that don't necessarily see it that way. 678 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: Some people watching the show might not see it that way. 679 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: But in regards to all of the ists that Charlie 680 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: gets called, you know, describe your experience again with with 681 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: him in saying that, and just as the movement overall 682 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: and responding to that video, well that, I. 683 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 7: Mean, that proofs it like that, there's nothing else that 684 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 7: you can say that is going to He was a 685 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 7: man that like understood what you were saying, but then 686 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 7: he was like, but he would give you the facts, 687 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 7: and then it was like, why do you why do 688 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 7: you make that your person out? Like why is that 689 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 7: your entire thing? Like I'm I'm gay, but or i'm gay, 690 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 7: and and it was like, no, that doesn't need to 691 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 7: be a thing. And so I've always been that way. 692 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 7: I mean, this is going back even before Trump times. 693 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 7: I mean ever since I was in the community, in 694 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 7: the community, you know, in my twenties, I was always like, 695 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 7: why do we have to lead with that? And you know, 696 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 7: that's a great reminder. It's like, look at everybody that 697 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 7: Jesus sat with, you know, you sat with everybody that's 698 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 7: Charlie Charlie sat with everybody and so. 699 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 8: For people to call him like racist, phobic and all that. 700 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 8: Then you hear that and you're like, when did he 701 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 8: say that? You know, I'm so sorry. 702 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: Outside I completely understand It's it's been toggling between sadness 703 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: and just fury of the types of people that would 704 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: post stuff that they are blatantly either ignorant of or 705 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: just are fine with spreading lies and mistruths about a 706 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: guy who only wanted to have a dialogue and discussion. 707 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: And we have been talking to to people the last 708 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: several days of you know, where they see the movement going? 709 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: In your eyes, where where is this going? How important 710 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: is it that you know, we stick to the cause 711 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: and make sure that all the things that Charlie was 712 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: fighting for, you know, aren't going to go to waste 713 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: just because he's not here with us anymore. 714 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 7: I do not think that this is that anything's going 715 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 7: to go to waste, if anybody, I mean, I think 716 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 7: at this point everybody saw Erica how amazing and strong 717 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 7: she was. You can see the anger and the disappointment, 718 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 7: you can see all the emotions in her. By this 719 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 7: is bigger, like this is going to be and is 720 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 7: bigger than it was before. I think that that was 721 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 7: the mission that he was put on earth for. And 722 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 7: you know that's why you know a lot of people, 723 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 7: even owning a business in an apparel line on, you know, 724 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 7: people are like, are you making freedom short? So I'm like, 725 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 7: please go to turning point. Sign up, go to turning point. 726 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 7: Get it from turning point because it brings you there. 727 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 7: You're supporting the message and the cause and growing. I mean, 728 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 7: we see how many people have signed up, Guys, like, 729 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 7: in just a short period of time, we have so 730 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 7: many more people that have joined the turning point. This 731 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 7: is the turning point, is this is the turning point 732 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 7: in America. You know, my cousins in Italy, influencers that 733 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 7: are making videos. You know, he had such a powerful 734 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 7: message and a powerful impression on so many people, and 735 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 7: that was just it. He was brought to the very 736 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 7: small majority that didn't like him, very small majority, and 737 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 7: as we know, those are always the voices that you 738 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 7: see the most of. Unfortunately, this is bigger than ever. 739 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 7: This isn't going anywhere. We're gonna keep on going. We 740 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 7: can't stop. Now, that's not that's a complete opposite of 741 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 7: what Charlie would have wanted us to do. 742 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I agree with you too, that point of 743 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: just because the fringe is loud doesn't mean they're right 744 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: in that, it doesn't mean they should influence anything. And 745 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: I think Charlie would have believed that wholeheartedly. Anthony RIMONDI 746 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: conservative aunt, really appreciate you taking the time. I wish 747 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: we were talkingunder better circumstances, but keep finding the good fight. 748 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: Thanks you too. Thanks man. Remember you can email the 749 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: show anytime you want TPT at tpusa dot com with 750 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: your memories and thoughts and well wishes for Charlie and 751 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: the Kirk family as a whole. We'll be back right 752 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:04,479 Speaker 1: after the break, No go away, Welcome back to Turning 753 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Point tonight. We're together. We are continuing to chart the 754 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. I know I've said this. 755 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 1: I said this before. We would like to read emails. 756 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: We just don't have time. I'm sorry, but you can 757 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: still send emails TPT at tpusa dot com. We will 758 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: make time at some point this week to go through 759 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of the emails that we see. Again, there 760 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: have been hundreds that it wouldn't even be possible to do. 761 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: If we did the entire show of emails, we wouldn't 762 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: be able to finish in a year. But TPT at 763 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com you can also send messages any of 764 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: the social media profiles. Hopefully we'll see them there, but 765 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: we will get to them eventually. But for now, we've 766 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: got to talk about what I think is a huge 767 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: cultural implication. The Emmys happened over the weekend. In case 768 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: you were unaware, I honestly didn't know. I was completely 769 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: unaware that they were happening. That's not entirely sure. I 770 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: knew that they were, like I knew that they were 771 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: happening sometime soon, I was unaware that they happened on 772 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Now, the reason that I think this is 773 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: interesting is because all of the show, the entire show, 774 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: not one time did anybody mention the Charlie Kirk assassination. 775 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: Now not saying they needed to support it in any way, 776 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: shape or form, or be a supporter of Charlie Kirk 777 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, but at least acknowledging 778 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: something that has huge cultural impact in the culture that 779 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: they existed. Remember, the media people, the entertainment people think 780 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: that they own the culture. They control the culture. Now, 781 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I don't think that's true in 782 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: just a second. But at no point did they mention 783 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's assassination. And that was clearly and utterly deliberate. Now, 784 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: I don't not even necessarily place blame on the host. 785 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: Nate Bargatzi hosted the show. He is a clean comic, 786 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: a family oriented guy. He mentioned in the beginning, he acknowledged, hey, 787 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: this is a terrible situation. He would like for the 788 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: Emmys to be an escape from the horrible reality that 789 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: the country is living in. And while I can respect 790 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: that in some way, shape or form, you know, I 791 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: wish you would have said something he didn't. I'm not 792 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: entirely blaming him. There's a lot of powers that that 793 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: did say, hey, don't say anything. But what he also 794 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: said was I don't want to bring any politics into 795 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: this whatsoever. So at the very very very least you 796 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: can understand, hey, we don't want to bring that entirely in. 797 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: The problem is, unfortunately you can't control everybody there in 798 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: not bringing their political opinions into the fold. Not only 799 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: did they not mention one of I think the biggest 800 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: cultural turning point in American society in the last several decades. 801 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's assasination. Not only did they not mention that, 802 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: you got people like Javier Bordame or whatever his name 803 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: is showing up in a terrorist garb whatever at the 804 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: beginning saying you know, Gaza, this, Palestine, that and all 805 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: of his nonsense. So that was political there and the speeches. 806 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: This is Hannah Einbinder. I have no idea who this is, 807 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: but she appropriately appears in a show called Hacks. I 808 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: don't know if that's like just a documentary titled what 809 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: she probably lives her life like. But she went over 810 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 1: time which cost people money, which if you don't understand 811 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: that reference, you probably didn't watch, which I understand. But 812 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: so ignore what she says at the beginning. But what 813 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: she says ultimately, I think is telling of where they 814 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: think the society and the culture is watched. 815 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 9: This finally, Oh, I'll pay the difference. Sorry, Finally, I 816 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 9: just want to say, I just want to say, finally, 817 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 9: go birds, yes and free Palestine, thank you. 818 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So as to why they didn't mention anything with 819 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, she said, f ice and free Palestine, and 820 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: the crowd erupted. I think they were worried that, hey, 821 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: if we mentioned this guy, even though we all think 822 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: it's terrible, Uh, we are going to get pushed back 823 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: from our audience that's in the room tonight. I think 824 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: that is cowardly and I think they shouldn't have done it. 825 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: But that's the reality. Here's what I think, though, is 826 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: the actual cultural turning point. Just looking at the ratings, 827 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,439 Speaker 1: the broadcast of the Emmys got the highest they've been 828 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: in the last four years at seven point four million views. Now, 829 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,479 Speaker 1: I want to juxtapose that to the speech that Erica 830 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: Kirk gave on Friday, which, on one platform, not including Rumble, 831 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: YouTube x all of the different platforms in the TV stations, 832 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: on one platform on Instagram sixty three million views and counting. 833 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: Who do you think has the cultural influence The people 834 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: that get together in their nice outfits and claim to 835 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: be the arbiters of reason and culture, who get a 836 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: measly seven and a half million people watching their broadcast, 837 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: or the wife of a murdered American hero, who, again 838 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: on one platform, gets sixty three million views, almost ten 839 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: times as the amount of views of the people that 840 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: claim to be the guiding light of American culture, who 841 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: actually has an impact, who actually has an influence. I 842 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: would beg to differ that it's not the people that 843 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: are at the Emmys. Is it maddening that they didn't 844 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 1: mention Charlie Kirk in any way, shape or form. Yes, 845 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter nobody's watching them. Relatively, we 846 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: are winning the culture war by sheer numbers, let alone 847 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: the fact that we have truth and reality on our side. 848 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: We are winning and for that I am grateful, despite 849 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: the horrific tragedy that took place that led us to 850 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: where we are right now. One round out the show 851 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: with something fun this clip, Glenn, We're gonna skip that 852 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: interview clip and go straight to you know, I don't 853 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: know what happened here. There is a guy. There's a 854 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: video posted of a guy who was sitting outside in 855 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: a T shirt and signs that said Charlie deserved it 856 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: or something along those lines. There's a cut in the video. 857 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what happened during that cut in the video. 858 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: It could be anything. You know, who knows what happened, 859 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: but you'll see it's very short. Let's just go ahead 860 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: and play it and I'll narrate through this guy with 861 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: a sign thumbs up saying haha, wow interested. Who knows 862 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: what happened after that cut? But that man is crawling 863 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: out of the pond. Who know, your guess is as 864 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: good as mine? Actually email your guesses to TBT at 865 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: tbusa dot com. I'm not sure what FAFO means either. 866 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: That was another acronym that was shown on the screen 867 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: there again anybody's guests. Who knows nobody here is advocating 868 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: any sort of physical retaliation for people who display disgusting beliefs. 869 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, the video cuts and 870 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do about that. It's just it'll 871 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: be lost in ambiguity. We'll never know what actually happened there. 872 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with us as we try to 873 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: figure out how to do this show going forward. We'll 874 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America.