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Speaker 1: You're listening to draft kids that work the John Nick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian podcast. John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of.

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Speaker 2: Him that tonight.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, Cooktufia Cracker.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Well, for me, I would pay for the chance to

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Speaker 6: pick Ken Flow's brain after a pay per view like

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Speaker 6: UFC three fourteen kind of don't want to dick around today.

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Speaker 6: I want to get right into it. How are we doing.

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Speaker 6: How's the weekend kid?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? Man, what a car man? That was

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun. Speaking of Button Way one, go ahead,

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Speaker 4: I want to say this, I thought you DC and

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Speaker 4: Rogan had one of your best shows. Just the analysis,

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Speaker 4: the way you guys were working together. I thought it

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Speaker 4: was definitely awesome. By the way, Wow yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean we will take that praise from Ken Flow

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Speaker 6: on a Monday morning.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, my man.

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Speaker 6: I know the keen eye through which you watch this through,

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Speaker 6: So thank you eyes. I guess plural, I should say

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Speaker 6: great to have everybody with us. Monday April fourteen, twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five, Episode five, forty six of the Aneconplorian Podcast

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Speaker 6: presented by DraftKings DraftKings, The crown is yours. So speaking

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Speaker 6: of pissing around Kenny, right, Sometimes people be like, hey man,

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Speaker 6: how are your kids? And it's like, what, dude, Like,

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Speaker 6: do you really want to know? That's like the most

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Speaker 6: loaded question in the world. If a parent is only

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Speaker 6: as happy as their saddest child.

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Speaker 7: How are your kids? They're fine? How are yours? How

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Speaker 7: much fucking time do you have? Am I wrong? And

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Speaker 7: you got three of them?

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Speaker 4: So, I mean it's like every one kid could take

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Speaker 4: a whole day telling the story.

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Speaker 7: Right, you got three and that's a lot of stories.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thankfully they're fine.

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Speaker 7: Hell his wealth, of course not in my notes. All right,

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Speaker 7: A lot to get to.

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Speaker 6: Today, we will recap UFC three fourteen in totality. Of course,

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo coming up live in about twelve minutes. He

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Speaker 6: controls the clock of this show, as many of you know.

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Speaker 6: We will also talk to Chase Hooper after a big

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Speaker 6: win this week, and we'll talk about that whole truck

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Speaker 6: position with Ken Flow and Chase Hooper, and I'll mute

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Speaker 6: my microphone and they can just geek out a little bit.

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Speaker 6: We'll also talk to Sean Shehan of Severe MMA and

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Speaker 6: Sure Dog and get his thoughts on the scoring in

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Speaker 6: the main event, among other things as well.

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Speaker 7: Kenny, what did you think.

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Speaker 6: In terms of the whole And not to put you

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Speaker 6: on the spot, because I think whatever you think of

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Speaker 6: President Trump as an individual, all he's talking to Dana

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Speaker 6: White about all night is.

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Speaker 7: The fights and the fighters.

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Speaker 6: So to whatever degree you like or don't like the

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Speaker 6: man as a human being and what he has done

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Speaker 6: or has not done, right, he's talking to Dana White

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Speaker 6: mostly on this night about the athletes, and I know

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Speaker 6: for a lot of them it feels good to have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And whether you like him or not, I'm always

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Speaker 4: blown away by Trump's energy. Like the dude, stand up.

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Speaker 4: I'm like fighting sleep, you know, trying to stay up.

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Speaker 4: And this guy is tuned into every single fight. Like

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Speaker 4: actually as a fan it looks like to me, like

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Speaker 7: He was very intrigued by each and every fight, So.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I get I get the sense that he's like

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Speaker 6: But it is interesting because sometimes there are comments about

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Speaker 7: It's just the evolution of things.

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Speaker 6: You know, I would imagine Barack Obama shooting hoops and

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Speaker 7: Bar and solve the major political issue? Right? So uh so? Healthy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right, A lot to get to today,

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Speaker 6: So Kenny Alexander Volkanowski certainly bucked a trend.

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Speaker 7: He didn't defy odds.

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Speaker 6: He was the betting favorite in the fight against Diego Lopez,

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Speaker 6: I thought, thought he was going to win the fight.

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Speaker 6: You know, I gave Diego Lopez a fighting chance, to

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Speaker 6: I probed people as to who they felt, you know,

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Speaker 6: a really interesting challenge. Forty nine forty six times to

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Speaker 6: He becomes a two time UFC featherweight champion.

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Speaker 4: It was an absolute masterclass and how you handle someone

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Speaker 7: So he clearly did his homework.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy that is a student of the game,

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Speaker 4: the Volkanovski that was old. This was the Volkanovsky of Old.

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Speaker 6: I read I believe on UFC dot com and apologies

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Speaker 6: that I don't have the credit, Danny Igey said of

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Speaker 6: and everything hurts more than ever before, like everything the

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Speaker 6: It's just a valiant, valiant effort from Volkanovsky, but so

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Speaker 6: much to get to on the Diego Lopez front as well.

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Speaker 6: How did you feel like Diego Lopez fought in this fight, Kenny.

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Speaker 4: So, I think that his determination, his courage, his heart,

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Speaker 4: He's only been in the UFC just a couple of years, man,

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Speaker 4: Volkanovsky has a lifetime of experience, and that absolutely matters

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Speaker 7: This was for the belt.

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Speaker 4: Volkanovsky has not only you know, a ton of rounds

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Speaker 4: So I think that he'll be back. He'll be back stronger.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you face somewhat of that quality like Alexander Volkanowski,

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Speaker 7: Lot, right.

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Speaker 6: And I wonder sort of what Francisco Grosso and Diego

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Speaker 6: if that's the wrong word. Perhaps Diego Lopez he looked

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Speaker 6: a little bit flat footed to me. And what would

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Speaker 6: that not your championship moment?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: So I'll say this, he didn't have a competent answer

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Speaker 4: He just didn't have a great answer. And you know,

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Speaker 4: easier said than done. Volkanovski knows how to move his feet.

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Speaker 4: He was moving laterally extremely well. He was circling away

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Speaker 4: and that's where his greatness lies. You know, there's a

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Speaker 4: but they're easier to approach and handle. You have easier

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Speaker 6: Maybe his best performance for me in a lot of respects,

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Speaker 6: and to do it at this stage of his career,

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Speaker 6: and you know how committed he is. You're not going

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Speaker 6: to outwork Alexander Volkonowsky and Diego Lopez is going to

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Speaker 6: outwork a lot of guys, but he's strong. Kenny Volkanovsky

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Speaker 6: has a reach as long as Daniel Cormier write seventy

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Speaker 7: He uses it brilliantly and he was.

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Speaker 6: Just on on this night and he did get hit

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Speaker 6: with I think, in totality the bigger shots in this

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Speaker 6: in those consequential moments and has all the championship medal

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Speaker 6: and hard to fight through the loss of vision. I

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Speaker 6: just think there was a moment where he lost vision

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Speaker 6: and you can tell it was a problem. And I think,

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Speaker 6: if I'm Francisco Grosso, you know those guys were very

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Speaker 6: live in the Volkanovsky part of this. But like, how

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Speaker 4: Uh but but it was an awesome fight. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I actually think a finish, a knockout by volk might

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Speaker 6: This feels absolutely enormous for Vulcan. Let me just say,

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Speaker 6: I mean, as Diego Lopez and yeah, you're Rodriguez, We're

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Speaker 7: At the press conference, I had a moment with Vulkan.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a moment. And for Volkanovsky, you know

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Speaker 7: Only a handful of guys are truly two division champs.

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Speaker 6: I say, John Jones has fifteen championship banners in Albuquerque,

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Speaker 6: Mount Rushmore. I feel like for Vulcan that's a you know,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, to be human is to struggle, and

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Speaker 7: It's when you see a.

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Speaker 7: And to see him come back into five the odds.

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Speaker 2: Now time for a Ray long minute?

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Speaker 3: What's a whole.

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Speaker 7: Way it up for the kids.

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Speaker 2: But Happy Monday, Happy Monday to you guys. Man, what

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Speaker 2: a great night of fights.

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Speaker 6: So I saw someone wearing a T shirt that said

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Speaker 6: fuck Michael Chandler.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see any T shirt that said that about

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Speaker 6: Alexander Volkanovski, right. And I don't know that I could

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Speaker 6: find anybody that dislikes the man and what he did

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Speaker 6: this weekend Raymond. For me, in beating Diego Lopez, in

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Speaker 6: my mind, forty nine forty six, four to one was

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Speaker 6: nothing short of spectacular. I didn't even think he could

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Speaker 5: Ah, Like, what a performance. The first off. One of

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to say this, and it was weird. Well,

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Speaker 5: I I guess before the fight they were playing the

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Speaker 2: I go, now, that's before the fight.

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Speaker 5: I go, holy shit, this guy that I've heard, I've

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Speaker 2: I swear to god, I'm not joking.

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Speaker 5: I've never heard it like that, and I go and

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Speaker 5: then after the first round, I go, Wow, this guy's

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Speaker 2: And then that was it. And I love.

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Speaker 5: Diego Lopez and I'll tell you the guy's got a

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Speaker 2: But you start.

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Speaker 5: I started pulling just for Volcanowski, just to I want

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Speaker 5: he kept walking the right way. Uh, he blitzed in

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Speaker 5: of the nice guys, Volkanowski and again the boat trainers Lopez,

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Speaker 5: mean that was that was? I agree with you, nothing

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Speaker 5: and like again, maybe it's you know, like we always said,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's there or it isn't there. But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ray I think that's one thing that John and

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Speaker 2: Yeah? One million percent.

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Speaker 5: Now you really have to be careful and you got

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Speaker 5: I believe at this point you know, being up there.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know, Kenny. I am blown away

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Speaker 5: how the hell did you do that? Psychologically?

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Speaker 2: What you did? You get help? Did?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know we've had guys in the past

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Speaker 2: You just have to like let it sit and reheal itself.

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Speaker 5: And I guess maybe you know twenty twenty five, you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm not.

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Speaker 5: No freaking you know, head guy, but the neuroplasticity you

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Speaker 5: I was just happy to see him make it. I

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Speaker 5: But it was just now, like in round four, like

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Speaker 5: gotta do it now, like you're you're there, I could see.

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Speaker 2: There, you know what I mean? You just want them

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Speaker 5: And it has nothing to do with Diego because he's

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Speaker 5: do great things. Because I think that was a growing

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Speaker 5: even at this stage for Diego to go five rounds.

438
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Speaker 2: He's a problem.

439
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you think that's a performance where where

440
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 4: Lopez is gonna he'll get back to his form and

441
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 4: and and that's not one of those things where it's like, ah,

442
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 4: he lost to Volkanowski, he'll never be a champion.

443
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Speaker 7: You see good things for him moving forward, right.

444
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 5: I think the next guy he fights, it's gonna be

445
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 5: a Lopez victory. And I think he's I think he

446
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 5: learned a lot from that fight.

447
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Speaker 2: I really do.

448
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 5: You got he's relatively new, not relatively new, but yeah,

449
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 5: as he's been to UFC two years.

450
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's a lot that guy's that guy's.

451
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Speaker 7: Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt.

452
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Speaker 2: That's a lot.

453
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Speaker 5: That's Medioric Brice to the championship, you know, because it's

454
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 5: almost like Wideman I was. You know, how many fights

455
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 5: did he have when he when he got when he

456
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Speaker 5: got the title fight?

457
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Speaker 2: Eleven, ten, twelve or something like that.

458
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's happening increasingly quicker for a lot of guys.

459
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Speaker 6: I know, Alex Pedade has a lot of experience. I mean,

460
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Speaker 6: Diego Lopez has a lot of experience right before he

461
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Speaker 6: got to the UFC. I know this is a different animal,

462
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Speaker 6: but a lot of experience. It's interesting to think about him.

463
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Speaker 6: There's so much to unpack in terms of what you said, Raymond,

464
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Speaker 6: I mean, real quickly. I would like to get to

465
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Speaker 6: this if I could. You're mentioning the layoff right, which

466
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 6: obviously was a big deal here forcibly or otherwise. He

467
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 6: took some time off, but he's after this fight with

468
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: hand destroyed Kenny talking about returning before September. Now, I

469
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 6: don't think it makes sense to fight Yayi Rodriguez in

470
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Speaker 6: Guadaljaa at altitude. It's not Mexico City, right, it's a

471
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 6: couple thousand feet, I think below, But makes no sense

472
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Speaker 6: to try to sleep in an altitude tent and fight

473
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Speaker 6: Yai year in September. So I don't blame Bulk for

474
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Speaker 6: maybe trying to think International Fight Week, but seemingly in Psyche,

475
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Speaker 6: Kenny Volkanovski is back in that prize fighting mindset of

476
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm the champion. I want to defend as

477
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Speaker 6: soon as humanly possible against the most difficult guy. And

478
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Speaker 6: he says that's mopsaarry of Louy.

479
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love that. You love to hear that,

480
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: and I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's

481
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: a way trickier fight going into enemy territory, doing a

482
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Speaker 4: quick turnaround, and also realizing, you know what, I'm not

483
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Speaker 4: going to make that same mistake of staying busy right away. Yes,

484
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Speaker 4: if the UFC wants me to fight in a couple

485
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: of months, like I'd love to help them out, but

486
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Speaker 4: I paid for it last time.

487
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Speaker 7: I'm not doing it.

488
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do Everybody is different, and perhaps Morob one

489
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 4: day we'll have to come to that conclusion as well,

490
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: where it's like, hey, I'm not, you know, a twenty

491
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 4: year old anymore. I'm getting older and I got to

492
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Speaker 4: take my time before I take another title defense. So

493
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Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. But uh yeah, I love both

494
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 4: of those fights. I still like both those fights.

495
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Speaker 2: Well, I take Kenny.

496
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Speaker 5: I like the Moza fight for him because it's a

497
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Speaker 5: fight when is a good chance he's not going to

498
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Speaker 5: get lumped up, and that that Achilles heal will have

499
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Speaker 5: another fight to rest.

500
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Speaker 2: You know.

501
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Speaker 5: I think he can go one evade most of the

502
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Speaker 5: stand up. It'll become more of a you know, a grappling.

503
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Speaker 5: We'll see if he can make it a grappling contest,

504
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 5: because I thought Vote did great with Islam in that department.

505
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's that's a good fight, and I think

506
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Speaker 5: it's for him. I think it's a safe fight at

507
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 5: this stage of the game. This guy's got app absolutely

508
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 5: nothing to prove. I mean I would almost right off

509
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Speaker 5: into the sunset. What he did I think is short

510
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 5: of a miracle. I think what he did was really unbelievable. Yeah,

511
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't push it, you know what I mean, But

512
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 5: most of the fight I would take. Yeah, that's the

513
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 5: next fight I would take, for sure. I think if

514
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 5: I'm game planning and i'm those guys, I yeah, I

515
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: like that. But man, this guy, please folk, you have

516
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing to prove.

517
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Speaker 6: Man, you know, but I just think there's so many

518
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 6: layers to it, right, Like he would tell he might

519
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 6: tell you in one conversation, Hey, Ray, four daughters.

520
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 7: Need I say more?

521
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to turn this thing around as humanly

522
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: possible on the biggest fight car possible. He might also

523
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 6: say to you, I'm trying to get the benefits of

524
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Speaker 6: what was an amazing sixteen week training camp. Other than

525
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 6: my hand, I feel pretty good, my eyes already healed.

526
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 6: I want to fight International fight week and you know,

527
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 6: stack another seven figures, right.

528
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Speaker 7: I just think there are a lot of different layers

529
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Speaker 7: to it.

530
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Speaker 6: But for me, like if I felt Hi as good

531
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Speaker 6: as Volkanovsky did, I mean, I'm arguing this might have

532
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 6: been a career best performance. I mean, certainly you could

533
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 6: argue as most dominant went over Holloway as that or

534
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Speaker 6: how dominant he was against Brian Ortega. Other than that

535
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 6: submission Korean Zombie, I don't even know. But my gosh, man,

536
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: I've never seen the guy look better from you know,

537
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 6: five feet away.

538
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, look, I'll never agree. I'll never disagree if

539
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 5: a guy does the four Daughters thing. But there's it's

540
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 5: gonna sound stupid, but my my thing was due. There's

541
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 5: not a big difference between fifteen million and eighteen million.

542
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: When you're at that level, I think you could do

543
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 5: fine unless you squandering your money, you know what I mean.

544
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 6: Like, he's not man, he's a budding chef. He's going

545
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 6: to make so much money as a chef. I'm telling you,

546
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 6: oh yeah, we.

547
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Speaker 5: Think he's going to make Listen, that's it. Your money's

548
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: not stopping after you'd done. The guy was the champ,

549
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: and look what he's done. He's that guy's He should be.

550
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Fine unless I'm nomately missing something.

551
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Speaker 7: But no, I just think he likes to fight. He

552
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 7: likes to have it on the books.

553
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Speaker 6: And I would seem to think that when you have

554
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Speaker 6: a champion who is desirous of fighting a top contender

555
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 6: who's nine to zero in the UFC, that hopefully it's

556
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 6: Movsarryevloyev's opportunity, you know, because he's richly deserving. So gosh,

557
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 6: in the nature of time, Ray is there anything else

558
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 6: on Volkanovsky? We acknowledged Joe Lopez. I probably should have

559
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 6: wore my Joe Lopez T shirt today. He's a no

560
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 6: nonsense guy and freestyle fighting. Jim has been at this

561
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 6: with Volkanovski for a long time. This is an incredible win.

562
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: Anything Raymond on Diego Lopez a volte before we get

563
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Speaker 6: to uh, you know, John Lord, Silver, Patty pimblet everybody else.

564
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think that's it. Man. I think we

565
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: did a good job. I think we got he's got his.

566
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Speaker 7: Oh now you're assessing how how we did?

567
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: You think we did well?

568
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: John, I'd want to say this too. It's like the

569
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 5: fourth week in a row. We started on time. I

570
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 5: think that's very good.

571
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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you, very proud of you.

572
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Speaker 5: The handle and everybody loves the way you handle criticism

573
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: like a true professionals.

574
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Speaker 2: Ah.

575
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I'm too sensitive. I mean I am less

576
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 6: sensitive that I was when I was thirty two. Here

577
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 6: at forty six years of age, but yes, I'm particularly

578
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 6: sensitive to the the call out of unprofessionalism because of

579
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: how much blood, sweat and tears, or at least the

580
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: sweat and tears I put into this program on a

581
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: weekly basis, laying it all out, and so you know

582
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 6: the fact that you either tongue in cheek or otherwise

583
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 6: feel that that part of this has been mismanaged is

584
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 6: very hurtful for me, you know, five hundred and fifty

585
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 6: episodes in.

586
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: But I'll look at Okay, now you sounded like my fucking,

587
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 5: my fucking and I do appreciate everything you do.

588
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: John. I think you're unbelievable. You help so many people. Dude,

589
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm really aware. Can I get away from this, Kenny?

590
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Can I leave now? I got two wives? Oh my god,

591
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: this is crazy? Wow?

592
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I mean the answer is yes. I mean

593
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 7: like the down hill.

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you John for everything. I swear to God

595
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: I meet.

596
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 7: This guy's unbelievable. You know, I don't want any credit

597
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 7: for the uh the.

598
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: Kenny.

599
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 7: I don't be right there, honey, Oh my god, this guy.

600
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: Let's keep it moving, Let's keep yeah, thankfully, thankfully And

601
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: I'm not even saying this. I have fourteen would you

602
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 6: rather questions? And we're not getting to any of them,

603
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 6: because if you have three fourteen.

604
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: No, no, this is two. Let me just make another observation.

605
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 5: The last couple of weeks, I come on to show

606
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 5: him I can't really remember a fight, you know what

607
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: I mean?

608
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: Like this card?

609
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 5: Remember, Wow, this this is the way it should be,

610
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like this is the way

611
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 5: which I was really for the first time in a

612
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: hundred years, I was starting to.

613
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Go, Wow, what am I?

614
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: I don't even know. I don't know what I'm looking

615
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: at anymore. Yeah, but this was this restored face. So

616
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: the UFC hit it out of the park with this card.

617
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: You guys to concentrate on.

618
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 6: You know what I was looking at this morning. I

619
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: was looking for some orange Patty Pimblet merchandise.

620
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
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Speaker 7: Wow, what a stud man, Kenny.

622
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 6: I do believe that, you know when Joe and others

623
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 6: suggests that the hair and the flare has maybe redirected

624
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 6: some attention or distracted some attention away from the martial arts,

625
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: maybe it has worked to his benefit. Maybe the close

626
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: Jared Gordon fight worked to his benefit. Patty Pimlet's the

627
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: real deal, and instead of calling out Islama Kashev that

628
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 6: maybe someone of his star power would Instead, he's trying

629
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 6: to position himself for Charles olivera Dustin Pourier or Justin Gaichie,

630
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 6: to test himself against the best number one contender and

631
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 6: make himself undeniable. I love everything about the kid. I

632
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 6: think he's going to be a massive global mixed martial

633
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: arts superstar, and he might already be there.

634
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 7: I agree.

635
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: I think all the attention has kind of been on

636
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: his looks, on what he says, his accent, where he's from,

637
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: all that other stuff, his confidence or maybe cockiness at times.

638
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: But this is a mixed martial artist that continues to

639
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: improve and prove the doubter is wrong. And I thought

640
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: this was one of his best performances. He did it

641
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: against a guy who was very popular in Michael Chandler,

642
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: and was really really dominant.

643
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: Man.

644
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 7: He was the more skillful guy.

645
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: I talked about this, you know, to me, you know,

646
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: Chandler is deteriorating as far as skill, and Patty's just

647
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: getting better.

648
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 7: He's adding weapons to his arsenal.

649
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: He has that confidence that's going to firepower all of

650
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 4: those weapons, and uh, I know, I think this is

651
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: pretty much as good as it gets. Uh, finishing something

652
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: like Handler. I thought it was pretty special.

653
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Ray, what do you think of Patty? To Patty?

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Speaker 2: He had he did very well.

655
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Speaker 5: I just I felt so bid for Henry pleading with

656
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Speaker 5: Chandler to just do whatever they were doing in training.

657
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Speaker 7: It's just it's every fight though, It's like he does.

658
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Speaker 2: One hundred. I don't I love Chandler.

659
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Speaker 5: I can't believe there was a guy walking around with

660
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Speaker 5: his shirt that said I hate Michael Chandler.

661
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Is that true? Yeah? It was the guy from England.

662
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

663
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Speaker 7: No, I shouldn't have brought it up necessarily.

664
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: I mean, Michael Chandler knows I have a lot of

665
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 6: love for him, and so to a lot of his contemporaries.

666
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 6: There are plenty of people in the n of a World,

667
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 6: elite level fighters, Robbie Lawler in his corner right, who

668
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't want to listen at all to any noise about

669
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: him cheating. But yeah, dude, I saw some guy wearing

670
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 6: the T shirt. I just just brought it up because

671
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: Vulk is so beloved and it was in poor taste,

672
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: I guess whatever.

673
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I agree Kenny with Chandler. I think

674
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: at this point, you know what you get and he's.

675
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

676
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: I'd love to sit him down and have it talk

677
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: with him.

678
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was telling when they had some

679
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: kind I think it was on one of.

680
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 7: The features on Chandler and they were.

681
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Talking to Henry Hooft and they, you know, one of

682
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: the first things Henry mentioned, he didn't mention anything about,

683
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: you know, strategy or.

684
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 7: How he's going to win the fight.

685
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: The first thing he mentioned was Chandler being an entertainer

686
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: and going out to it.

687
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 7: And that's how I was like, Yeah, this fight is,

688
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 7: it's done.

689
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: It's maybe he wins, maybe he wins, but it's it's

690
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: just if you're not developing skill over the course of

691
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: your career. I mean, look at how much the UFC

692
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: has grown in the last three years, let alone five years,

693
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: ten years. You need to be getting better or you're

694
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: going to be getting worse.

695
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 7: And that's just the reality of this game. Man.

696
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 6: You can always land the shots, right, right, I mean right,

697
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 6: you can always win by knockout, but Scousers don't get

698
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: knocked out, which sort of compounds the issue here.

699
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 5: But no, Patty great job. Obviously, his wrestling, his jiu

700
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: jitsu is on point. Had a great fight. I think

701
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: for these guys, it's not even like some of the

702
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: guys that have been around for a while, because you

703
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: never know when a guy's fighting for money, he's fighting

704
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: for entertainment. There's a lot of things that you just

705
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 5: don't know. But it's the up and coming guys they

706
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: have to worry about because those guys are still hungry.

707
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 5: It's the Roofees and some of these other guys that

708
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: are coming up with you know, I don't know, Like

709
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: I think Patty was a great fight.

710
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Do I see him as a champion. That'll be interesting.

711
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 6: Michael Chandler almost knocked out Charles Olivera for the undisputed

712
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 6: UFC lightweight Championship. He had a moment against Charles in

713
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 6: the rematch or two. He had a big moment against

714
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 6: Justin Gaichee. He had moments against Dustin Poorier, Patty Pimblet, however,

715
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 6: close to his fighting prime, having turned thirty in January.

716
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: Kenny just beat Michael Chandler to a bloody, fucking.

717
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 7: Pulpit in Miami.

718
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 6: So how do you handicap Kenny and Raymond his chances

719
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 6: now against Charles Dubronx Olivera Because here's Patty Piblet calling

720
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: out the most dangerous or decorated finisher in the history

721
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 6: of the promotion Kemp flip.

722
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the fight. I really think.

723
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: I think that's the fight to be made. I think

724
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 4: that Patty also really is super confident in his jiu

725
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: jitsu and wants to test the jiu jitsu of Charles OLIVERA.

726
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: I think he's got to be careful on the feet.

727
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: I think that's where Olaverrol will be more dangerous.

728
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 7: I think.

729
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: But I think Patty feels that he's got the takedown

730
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: game to put Oliver on his back and as good

731
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: as Oliver is on the ground, to me, I think

732
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: Oliver is best when he gets top position. He has

733
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: shown certain vulnerabilities when he's on his back. I think

734
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: Patty believes he can take him there. And you beat

735
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: someone like OLIVERA, well, you just fast tracked your way

736
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: to a title shot. So I think it's a brilliant

737
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: call out Patty doing his homework man inside the cage,

738
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: outside the cage.

739
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 7: I thought it was smart.

740
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

741
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 5: And one other thing with Patty, he had to finish

742
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 5: that fight the way he finished it, and he did.

743
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: Daddy Daddy did, and I give him all the credit

744
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: in the world. I mean that was really like a

745
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: dominating performance which we haven't really seen like that, So

746
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: hats off them. Yeah, I love the I love the

747
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: Oliver fight. I think that's a better test to where

748
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: he is. And he gets by Olivera. Yeah, he's on

749
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 5: his way.

750
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: So Kenny and Ray And here's the poll results for

751
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 6: today the heels of the win. Who do you predict

752
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: will be next for the lightweight contender, Paddy Pimblet, Charles Olivera,

753
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 6: Dustin Pourier, Justin Gaigie or Arman Sergian. Thirty five percent

754
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 6: of you predicted Charles Olvera and I would get down

755
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: on my knees and beg for that fight right now.

756
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 6: Twenty eight percent said Justin Geigee, twenty six percent said

757
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 6: Arman Sergian, eleven percent said Dustin Poorier. All of those

758
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 6: fights dangerous in their own right, Arman Sargian is certainly

759
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 6: a dangerous number one contender who needs a fight. Kenny,

760
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 6: I've never seen anything like this, right, A superstar seemingly

761
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 6: on Paddy Piblet's level, right, and I've compared him to

762
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 6: Conor McGregor in so far as master orator just naturally,

763
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 6: such a great orator, using that accent, calling people fucking

764
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 6: sausages and helmets.

765
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: Great.

766
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 6: Never enjoyed a quarter of an hour with a fighter

767
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 6: more than my sit down with him last month in

768
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 6: Las Vegas. Right, he is absolutely magnetic and dynamic and

769
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 6: as a mixed martial arts athlete Kenny and Ray, he's

770
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: out fucking our mon sugion right. Like if I'm a manager,

771
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, man, listen, like, can we like strategically

772
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 6: call out Charles Oliver and is eight point one million

773
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Speaker 6: Instagram You know what I'm saying.

774
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not saying like Charles,

775
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 7: you guys know, is like unbelievable.

776
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: But Kenny like talking about the twelve to six elbows

777
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: in our fighter meetings, fucking.

778
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: I love it.

779
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: Well, not everybody who's born with charisma, and Patty Pimblet

780
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: has it, man, and that just adds to his intrigue

781
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: as a fighter. People want to see him fight, man.

782
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: Some people may want to see him lose, but it

783
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. They want to see him fight. So I

784
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: love it Patty taking full advantage of it. The other possibility,

785
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 4: which I don't think is going to happen because I

786
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 4: don't think it benefits Ilia as much.

787
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: But Ilio Toopuria and Patty Peblet, they have a history together.

788
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: They have video of them kind of going back and

789
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: forth almost getting into a scrap. I think that would

790
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: be interesting. I don't think that's going to be the

791
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: next one, but that's another option. But when you've put

792
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: yourself into this position, and you've established yourself as a star,

793
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: and when you've proven to the ufciand of the fans

794
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: that you are never going to be in a boring fight,

795
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: then my friend, you have a lot of options.

796
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a plus the sausages and the helmet. It

797
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: is hysterical. I think he's got a great Oh. I

798
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: think he's got a great mic persona. I don't know

799
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: if I compare him to McGregor. That guy was on

800
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: another level. But he's he's entertaining, and he's funny, and

801
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 5: he's going to do obviously really well with all of

802
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 5: that put together combined with his skill. He's he's looking

803
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: good and it looks like he will go off the

804
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 5: rails like McGregor. You know, he seems a little more

805
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: grounded than that.

806
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 6: It's interesting when you sort of talk about some of

807
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 6: the master orators and guys who I think have such

808
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 6: a great natural verbal ability, and you're looking for a

809
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: comp for Connor McGregor. I've really You're right, Ray never

810
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 6: seen anybody like Connor McGregor. Shale Stun and I believe

811
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 6: is someone who I would classify as a master orator.

812
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 6: But some of his material did seem written. But he

813
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 6: certainly is a master orator. But Patty pimblet to me right,

814
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 6: the ease with which he calls somebody a fucking helmet

815
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 6: man in a fight interview, to me is just I

816
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 6: am absolutely captivated by the man's every move and I

817
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: can't wait to see him against your favorite fighter's favorite fighter,

818
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 6: Charles Olavera, or your favorite fighter's favorite fighter Dustin Poier,

819
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: or your favorite fighter's favorite fighter Justin Gaechee. How about

820
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 6: this lightweight division? And yes, Illio Topolia good factor prominently

821
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 6: in this equation as well. There's a lot to be

822
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 6: excited about if you're a UFC lightweight fan. I mean,

823
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: how good is this? If you're islam right, I don't

824
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: know who tweeted, it's somebody high profile, I think blah Muhammad,

825
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: the UFC weltsweight champion, tweeted like, hey, Islam's got a

826
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 6: new opponent right, Like he could have called out Islam

827
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 6: right now, and yet he doesn't want to do it.

828
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 6: What's not to like about Patty pimblet.

829
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, really good stuff. And I thought to tell you

830
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: that that division, the forty five pound division is John Silva.

831
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: You know seguey in at the what a I mean

832
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: he that guy? That guy's having a blast. And yeah, yeah,

833
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: Kenny get choke was tight tight, you know what I mean?

834
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, he's not afraid to go for stuff.

835
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 5: He's not, you know it, wasn't afraid to be on

836
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 5: the floor with a guy that that's probably the only

837
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: way he could have lost that fight is on the floor.

838
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: This guy is showing the qualities and the attributes of

839
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 5: a guy that is going to make some waves.

840
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, great to have everybody with us live

841
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Speaker 6: on the Anaki Flooring Podcast today on YouTube. Thanks to

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Speaker 6: everybody ingesting it after the fact. Rate is eleven fifty

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Speaker 6: five am Eastern. How much more time.

844
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Speaker 7: Do you have?

845
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: Well we got ten minutes, I think.

846
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Speaker 7: Okay, outstanding, Thank you. So I don't know what his

847
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: nightly rate is.

848
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 6: But if I ever needed a wingman, I think I

849
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: would hire y Year Rodriguez to be alongside what an

850
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 6: absolute stud in fight. And I just don't even know

851
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: where to begin, because he used the UFC three fourteen

852
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: press conference as the mechanism through which to deliver a

853
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: scathing message to Diego Lopez about triotism and a rivalry

854
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 6: that involves Marco Beltan, and then he goes out and

855
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 6: does that to Patricio Pitbull. Nothing about beat Knack Guy

856
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 6: in his UFC debut is easy, ray All Hill, Yeah,

857
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 6: you're Rodriguez.

858
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 7: You got anything for us on the Mexican.

859
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, just you know, he does what he always does.

860
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: He's you know, he's got some he's got beautiful cakes.

861
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: He's a little awkward. He'll take risks where a lot

862
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 5: of people won't take risks and uh, you know, no risk,

863
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: no rewarding. Right now he's getting the reward and he

864
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 5: takes the risks. So you know, it looks good. Has

865
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: he corrected any of the grappling or the wrestling that

866
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: that remains to be seen? You get a good wrestler

867
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: and iverythink it's still a problem for him.

868
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 6: Well, he's putting in the hours, right, Kenny, so we

869
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 6: know that. I mean, the appetite is there for it.

870
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 6: He's never had abs before this fight, right, He's putting

871
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: in the time. It doesn't necessarily mean it'll produce the

872
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: world champion. What'd you think, Ken th loll of?

873
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

874
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: Here, every time I see him fight, I'm just like,

875
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: this guy is liking fast and it's still case here.

876
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: He is so damn fast. His kicking game was on point.

877
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: It's pretty much always on point. But that to me,

878
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: was really what won in this fight. Patricio Pitbull just

879
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: did not have an answer for the speed of.

880
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 7: Those kicks, the range of those kicks. He never was

881
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 7: in the proper range.

882
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 4: And you know, to go back to the press conference

883
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: of what happened between him and Diego Lopez, that's how

884
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: you do a promotions job for him right there. And

885
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 4: I think both those guys would love you know, I'm

886
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: sure Lopez would love a rematch, and I'm sure yeah,

887
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: you Rodriguez would would love a shot at the belt.

888
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: But if they were offered a main event in Guadalaja,

889
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: between both those guys, signed me, sign me up. That

890
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: was so small. Again, I don't know if it was planned.

891
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: It seems like it's authentic. It seems like that beef

892
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: is real. Oh yeah, that press conference just sold that fight.

893
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: If the UFC doesn't put that fight together, that's on you.

894
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 7: Bro Hu.

895
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the beef over? I didn't see the

896
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: press so yeah.

897
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: Here at the postfight press conference after beating Patricio Pitbull

898
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 6: that he felt as though the media should ask Marco

899
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 6: Beltromp about the specific details of why he is coming

900
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: to his friend Marco's defense in this rivalry.

901
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

902
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess some of the translation maybe suggested

903
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 6: that Diego Lopez and his team at one point confronted Marco.

904
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 7: I don't know.

905
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 6: You certainly, if you want to go out there and

906
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 6: seek out the transcript of what was said back and forth,

907
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: it is out there. But I agree with Kenny right

908
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 6: five round co main event, live on pay per view.

909
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: No ja UFC, Gualjara, Mexican Independence Day weekend, fuegel.

910
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 7: That's just too good.

911
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: And it is interesting though, because YEAHI Rodriguez said with

912
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: Hunter Campbell, iye to I that he promised me a

913
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 6: championship opportunity, and the way Yaiir has sort of methodically

914
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: worked his career. At times would be suggestive that he

915
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 6: could sit for a title fight right now. But you know,

916
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 6: I do believe that that you could do Yai Yar

917
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: and Diego, and I think both athletes will be pressed

918
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 6: in that direction.

919
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: Ray would be great Ray.

920
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 6: Before I let you go, Jean Lord Silva, that guy

921
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 6: can fight for the title right now. As far as

922
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: Joe Ruggan's concern, what do you think of?

923
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 7: Here comes the Lord?

924
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: I tell you it's a that's a guy that's super

925
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: comfortable in that octagon.

926
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: My god, I don't even know.

927
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 5: I don't even know what he's doing when he's what

928
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 5: was he supposed to be doing? When he's hanging on

929
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: the cage?

930
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: What is that? It's like Spider Man. I don't even

931
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm looking at.

932
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 7: I don't either.

933
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: Do you know what he You know what I'm talking about? Kenny?

934
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: When he was jumping on.

935
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 7: A dog, he's a dog. He was caged, Yes, he

936
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 7: was trying to get out.

937
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: Guys, got that guy?

938
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: How quick was that turnaround for him?

939
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 7: Kind of a quick turnaround?

940
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: Right?

941
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 7: I have him right in front of me, and I

942
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 7: know it had to be a quick turnaround.

943
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: Oh, here's some footage of Jean Sylvie fought in February

944
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: against Melsick Bogdasari and so yes, very quick turnaround, and

945
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 6: yeah that can lead to some comfort, to be sure,

946
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 6: but he is a budding SuperStar's won thirteen fights in

947
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: a row and his power. Bryce Mitchell in our Fighter meeting,

948
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: and I might have relayed this on the broadcast. Ray

949
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 6: he was so respectful of Jean Silva's timing and his

950
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 6: ability to accurately confind his shots, and that this was

951
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: the biggest fight of his career. Despite Bryce's experience against

952
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 6: all these rank guys like iliotz A Putty and Josh

953
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 6: Ammat and everything else.

954
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, John Sail was the real deal.

955
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 6: And Bryce, as he said, like, he couldn't have fought

956
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 6: any harder in trying to get a win. And when

957
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 6: you fight that way against the guy like that, you

958
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 6: get finished. So a lot of respect for Bryce Mitchell

959
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: in defeat Ray as well.

960
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: No, No, he did, Bryce, Look, he did whatever he

961
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: could do.

962
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 5: It just looked like a guy shooting Bebi's and the

963
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 5: other guy's got cannonballs coming at you, you know what I mean?

964
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Like that that's the problem. Like he was hitting him

965
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: with a cut.

966
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 5: He was offsetting him maybe a little bit with the

967
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 5: stomp kicks and the but you could see it.

968
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: It was.

969
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 5: What's to say, is like he was swimming without a

970
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 5: life preserver, like it was only a matter of time

971
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: he was, yeah, drown, you know what I mean. And

972
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: that's the way I was looking at the fight. But

973
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 5: up until that point, I think Bryce did do a

974
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 5: good job. But then to be finished where you know,

975
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: the guy he's known for more of a striker and

976
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: you're the grappler.

977
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: The way he did, yeah, just.

978
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 5: One amazing And man, I don't know, good luck stopping

979
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 5: this guy. I think he's I don't know, Like again,

980
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 5: you could catapult him right up to the top.

981
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so throw him into that.

982
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, think of the fight you can make

983
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: in the forty five pound division.

984
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, ezy, yeah, yeah.

985
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to laugh. But I keep this meme

986
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: keep keeps popping up in my head. I saw the

987
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: picture of you know, Jean Silva with that ninja choke

988
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 4: locked in and they have you know, Bryce's face kind

989
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: of like in agony h and it says, uh, all.

990
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: Right, bro, the earth is round, damn right, But Bryce

991
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 7: is a stud dude, like you know, he fought to

992
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 7: the end. He did what he what he you know,

993
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 7: what he could.

994
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: But John Silva man like, like Ray said, I think

995
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 4: he's just got way too much power, way too many tools.

996
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: The dude looks so comfortable in the octagon, man like. Again,

997
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 4: those are the special type fighters, you know. I don't

998
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: know if he's going to be a champion, but he

999
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: certainly looks like it right now. And uh, he's a

1000
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: problem man. Good luck dealing with that level of striking.

1001
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 5: Exactly the champion and not that guy's an entertaining fight

1002
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 5: and that's the guy you want to fight.

1003
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean Rogan was prophetic, right.

1004
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 6: He sort of suggested that he looked the part of

1005
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 6: champion before this fight, and he certainly looked like a

1006
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 6: champion on this night. I'm not sure if Jason Anik

1007
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 6: looked the champion, but his hair looks fantastic. Let's go

1008
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: for wide. Welcome in my twin brother at Boston and hey, buddy,

1009
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: what's up?

1010
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 8: You know it would look better if the cameras are working.

1011
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 6: But just to stay on Jeans, SAME's not Jean John.

1012
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 9: Right, even going in four finishes and four UFC fights

1013
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 9: and the way he can talk about it. Ninja Choke,

1014
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 9: Brice met and Bryce Mitchell I thought one the press

1015
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 9: conference was certainly prepared and game. Yeah, he looks the part,

1016
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 9: and like, you know, I can't tell you how many

1017
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 9: people had John Sova by knockout that didn't cash.

1018
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 8: But it didn't even matter. He was going to finish it.

1019
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 9: And oftentimes when you see a guy that definitely doesn't

1020
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 9: fear the power coming back but knows that they can

1021
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 9: deliver fight finishing power, I just think it gives them

1022
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 9: an edge. And when you talk about the comfort Kenny,

1023
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 9: it's not like cockiness or talking smack in there dancing around.

1024
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 9: It's just knowing that he almost kind of a confidence

1025
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 9: that I see a guy like Ilio Topodia just unbelievable.

1026
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't tell you. The other thing is it

1027
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: looks like he's not even trying yet. It looks like

1028
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: he's literally not.

1029
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: Even trying yet.

1030
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: He's just fucking around in the I know, you're eating

1031
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 5: the shit out of people.

1032
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: That's what scares me.

1033
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 5: Like what happens with you know what before I forget,

1034
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: you know, even as a coach man shout out to

1035
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: those fighting nerds men.

1036
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: What they're doing is unbelievable.

1037
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: And you you always see this, every kind of school

1038
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: has its run at the time, but these guys are

1039
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 5: on a fricking tear and a half. And I don't know,

1040
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 5: man that like again, the ease in what he's doing,

1041
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: it's not even like where would you see like a

1042
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: gap in this guy's game. He hasn't really hit adversity

1043
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 5: because he's making it look too easy.

1044
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I've been waiting to see, you know,

1045
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 7: more of the fighting nerds.

1046
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: Obviously, Kyle bo Holly has proven how good he is

1047
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: on the ground, but I was kind of waiting to

1048
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: see that. With Jean Silva, I knew he had a

1049
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: nasty arm in guillotine, but seeing all the different attacks

1050
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: he's doing with his with his grappling now too, like,

1051
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: how do you plan for that?

1052
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 7: How do you prepare for that?

1053
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: Guy?

1054
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: You know, Bryce Mitchell is no slouch on the ground.

1055
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: This is an experienced guy who knows about submissions and

1056
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 4: he was still caught again.

1057
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 5: And Kenny, it's a guy that will take risks because

1058
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 5: he doesn't care if he ends up in a bad position,

1059
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: because he has the confidence to know he's going to

1060
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: get out and get back to where the fight's going

1061
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: to be in his advantage. So that's what's scary about him.

1062
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 5: He's not say, oh, man, if I missed his choke,

1063
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 5: I'm going to end up. But he's just going. He's going.

1064
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 5: And the confidence when you're doing that, you have confidence

1065
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: because and you know, even like when you roll in

1066
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 5: your dad, do this, I'm gonna end up on my back.

1067
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of guys play it safe, but

1068
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 5: this guy doesn't look like that guy. So you always

1069
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: have to be Yeah, you always have to be cacal

1070
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: standing or on the floor with him, because I think

1071
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: he's a Manhattan this guy, and he's going to go

1072
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: for stuff and he could.

1073
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: Back it up.

1074
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 7: Ray, thank you for the overtime.

1075
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 6: As always, I need to remember to book you for

1076
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: an hour after these pay per view events. Would you

1077
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 6: rather sleep in a doghouse or let stray dog sleep

1078
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 6: in your bed? Would you rather sleep in a doghouse

1079
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 6: or let stray sleep in your bed?

1080
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 5: Well, John, since I've slept in the doghouse many times

1081
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: in my life, Oh, I'm gonna go with just sing

1082
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 5: in the doghouse because Kenny, it seems like it's actually

1083
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 5: the place to be at this point, taking these guys.

1084
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: Love you, great cod keep up the good work.

1085
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy, You're the mad greatest of all time.

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Speaker 6: on the UFC three fourteen front. First, we are gonna

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Speaker 6: Thanks to everybody joining us live here on the Anican

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Speaker 6: Flooring Podcast. This is Bryce Mitchell at the presser. John

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Speaker 6: Silva starts barking, getting the crowd to bark, and here's Bryce.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm a dog guy and I couldn't

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Speaker 6: even hold it together.

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Speaker 7: That stole the show.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 9: You particularly change everything about the delivery the pauses, right,

1131
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 9: and Jenny. This might sound crazy, but it made me

1132
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 9: instantly like his chances in the fight mold right. And

1133
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people that were picking Bryce Mitchell.

1134
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 9: I was like, oh, he really And I do think

1135
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 9: Bryce Mitchell would have beat a lot of opponents on

1136
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 9: that night.

1137
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 8: I thought you got a good version of him. So

1138
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 8: but yeah, I think he won.

1139
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 9: The press conference after that moment, it was sort of

1140
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 9: a blah press conference and after that moment it turned

1141
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 9: into the Rodriguez Diego Lopez Show, which sort of.

1142
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 8: Is what it is.

1143
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 9: So but I think, yeah, I mean, I dude, I

1144
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 9: couldn't get enough. I met Bryce with I was with

1145
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 9: Blamahammad at the LA event. Bryce came up to us.

1146
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 9: Neither one of us had met him in person. Couldn't

1147
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 9: have enjoyed that ten minutes or if I'm being honest, Yeah,

1148
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just gosh, there's so much to get

1149
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 9: to here.

1150
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 7: It's like, let me.

1151
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 9: Say one more thing, because guys were talking about risk

1152
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 9: and I kind of want to ask Kenny this, and

1153
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 9: maybe this is too general a point, but you know,

1154
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 9: Michael Chandler, no fight IQ ever, right, But at least.

1155
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 9: I would have loved to see him be willing to

1156
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 9: get just knocked the fuck out early and go nuts.

1157
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 8: Same thing with Diego Lopez.

1158
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 9: So for me, from Michael Chandler and Diego Lopez, I

1159
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 9: just thought their paths to victory were going crazy and

1160
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 9: being maybe willing to get finished, to try to get

1161
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 9: a finish.

1162
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 8: Your thoughts on that.

1163
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it was probably more the case

1164
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: with the ladder. I think that for Lopez, Volkanovsky kind

1165
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: of wasn't having it, you know, just the way that

1166
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: he moves his feet. It was it was gonna be

1167
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 4: difficult to catch up to him, you know. But gosh,

1168
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, I think that for the other fight we

1169
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: were talking about, we were talking of Chandler, him and

1170
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: Chandler should have. Absolutely Chandler should have because that was

1171
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: his one spot. You know, pimblet has He's improved his footwork,

1172
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: but it's not at the level of someone like a Volkanovski.

1173
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: And to me, it looked like Chandler was super hesitant.

1174
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: This wasn't him not being able to get on the inside.

1175
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: This was him refusing to get on the inside. So

1176
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 4: I think for Chandler it was a different story. Than Lopez.

1177
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 4: But I couldn't agree more because I was telling everybody

1178
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: Chandler early is where he wins this fight. Get in

1179
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: Patty's face, because Patty will sometimes engage with you. Get

1180
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 4: that chin up in the air. That was his best

1181
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: shot I think at winning them, you.

1182
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 9: Know, And I think maybe in an effort to be smart,

1183
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 9: Chandler wasn't as aggressive early on.

1184
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 8: Perhaps in an effort to be smart.

1185
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 9: But you know, Patty Pimblet and John and I have

1186
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 9: been high on Patty Pimblet from the beginning.

1187
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 8: I liked him in this fight going in.

1188
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 9: But one criticism in his fights is I did see

1189
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 9: that chin sort of available there.

1190
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 8: I didn't see.

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00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 9: Chandler even put Patty in a position to need to

1192
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 9: protect his gin necessarily. So thrilled for Patty though beyond words,

1193
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 9: over three million followers on Instagram already.

1194
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 8: I mean, this guy's a limit, all right.

1195
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 6: So we sort of exhausted John Silva, but maybe we

1196
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 6: could go deeper on him. I mean, it's absolutely amazing

1197
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Speaker 6: what mister Sukupeda has done with the Fighting Nerds team

1198
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Speaker 6: and all the analytical minds they have behind these four

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Speaker 6: athletes and others that are taking over the UF see

1200
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Speaker 6: A lot of people think Kyle Bohai is the best

1201
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 6: mid ofweight in the world right now. Mauricio Rufi, you

1202
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Speaker 6: know what lightweight is he not competitive against right now

1203
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Speaker 6: with everything that he brings to the table right and

1204
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Speaker 6: Carlos Protest is headlining against ian Fuckomashado Gary in two weeks.

1205
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's absolutely insane. But on the John Silva front,

1206
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 6: you know, we did ask our listeners and viewers who

1207
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: they would like to see fight Alexander Volknovski in the

1208
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 6: first defense of his second title ran and based upon

1209
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 6: a conversation I had with Joe Rogan, I actually included

1210
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Speaker 6: John Silva. Sixty one percent of people would like to

1211
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 6: see it be movsar Ivloyev, which is very encouraging, and

1212
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Speaker 6: then nineteen percent a piece for Yau Retrigains and John

1213
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Speaker 6: silver But I like the fact that, you know, the

1214
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Speaker 6: Avid fans really understand what maps are Iovloyev has done.

1215
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 6: We are going to get to the Dany Gay Shawn

1216
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 6: Woodson situation with Sean Shean coming up in a little bit,

1217
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 6: So Ken Flow, could we just live in the uh.

1218
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 6: The Dominic rerayis poll too for a little bit, you know,

1219
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 6: shades of Connor McGregor against Joseato. I guess in some

1220
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 6: part as he gets rid of the uber dangerous Nikita

1221
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 6: Krilov there with a knockout in round one. I'm not

1222
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 6: sure did they did they bonus Reys? I hope they did.

1223
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 6: Either way, What a win for dom reyis huh.

1224
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. And that's his best move. And it

1225
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: seemed to me that Kreiloff did not do his homework

1226
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: on that. I mean, if Dominic Rays is going to

1227
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: uh land that shot, you're you're going to be asleep.

1228
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 4: I mean, he had just has beautiful timing and has

1229
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 4: been doing that for a little while. But man, to

1230
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: talk about that technique for a second, that is very

1231
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 4: difficult to pull off. Very few people can land a

1232
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 4: shot like that going backwards with that level of timing

1233
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: and precision. And boy does Dominic Rays have it. Uh

1234
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: that poll counter was just a thing of beauty and

1235
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: uh yeah, Kreoloff uh was clearly not prepared for it.

1236
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 7: But great to see him get another win too.

1237
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1238
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 4: Uh, Yeah, He's dealt with a lot, just comes across

1239
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: as a good dude, hard working guy, and and you

1240
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: love that story. Similar to what we talked about with Volkanovsky.

1241
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: To see a guy, you know rise from the ashes,

1242
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: it's always a good.

1243
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 9: Thing, John, I just want to I mean in terms

1244
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 9: of the main event. And you guys might have touched

1245
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 9: on this, but Volk's legacy, right, the alternative three losses, John,

1246
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 9: And that mount Rushmore comment you made earlier on the program, John,

1247
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 9: I made that earlier on a different program this weekend.

1248
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 9: Like you stay in that conversation otherwise, Yeah, he's straight,

1249
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 9: and I didn't love the conversation that he would retire

1250
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 9: after losing a third straight.

1251
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 8: But it just totally flips the script for Vulk, and

1252
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 8: I just flow. I can't get Tiporia out of my head.

1253
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 9: Though, if I'm being honest with you, given that performance

1254
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 9: against Vulk, I still just can't get that guy out

1255
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 9: of my head.

1256
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: How good is he in order for him to do

1257
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 4: that again, someone like Volkanovski, How damn good.

1258
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 8: Is he was ready to go that? Yes, I don't

1259
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 8: mean to interrupt you, but Volk was ready to go

1260
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 8: that night.

1261
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 9: He might not have been ready to go a fifty

1262
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 9: five against Islam, but he was ready to go that.

1263
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: It seemed like it. But again again, it could be

1264
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: a blessing in disguise. I think Volkanovski, like John said,

1265
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: that was probably his performance. And if you're a smart guy,

1266
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: a hard working guy, you can make improvements and learn

1267
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 4: learn from your mistakes.

1268
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 7: And I think Volkanowski looked better than ever.

1269
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 6: Really amazing that he could turn in a career best

1270
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 6: performance at this stage of his career.

1271
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 7: But maybe not so.

1272
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 6: Amazing if you know the athlete and you know how

1273
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 6: good he is naturally and then what he has done

1274
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 6: to hone everything and sort of extract everything out of

1275
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 6: himself in terms of maximizing his utility twenty seconds only

1276
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 6: on the Mount Rushmore thing right. I did a little

1277
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: bit of research on it this morning. And the most

1278
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 6: popular five men, It's very hard to get four men, right.

1279
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 6: Most popular five men George Sant, Pierre John Jones, Kabibnrmago,

1280
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 6: Metow Anderson Silver, Demetrius Johnson right, and Kabibe was sort of,

1281
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 6: you know, right there on the fringe with the three

1282
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 6: title defenses.

1283
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 7: Maybe not, you know anyway.

1284
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 6: The women Ronda Rousing, Amanda Noon as Valentina Chief Chank

1285
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 6: Go Jeongwei Lee. For me, the women is a little

1286
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 6: bit of an easier navigation. Hard to try to find

1287
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 6: a place for Amanda noon As among those men. But

1288
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 6: we only bring it up and I'll end it that

1289
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 6: Volkanovsky is now still in that conversation. I think based

1290
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 6: upon the quality nature of this win, Cody Merrow wanting

1291
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: Connor McGregor to get there, and yeah.

1292
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 7: I guess you know, there's certainly it's a hard thing.

1293
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 6: And Mount rushmore Right is like, what the heck is

1294
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 6: Mount rushmore Right, Like, why can't we have five or

1295
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 6: ten or anyway? Bulk is one of the greatest of

1296
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 6: all time and cemented himself as such this weekend. So

1297
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Speaker 6: anything else j before we let you go. In terms

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Speaker 6: of your experience in Miami at UFC three fourteen, President

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Speaker 6: Trump was in the building, a lot of standout performers.

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Speaker 6: John Silva seems to be a guy who's steal a

1301
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 6: lot of headlines. I know, Patty Pimblet's a god that

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Speaker 6: you've admired from before anything else.

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: In about thirty seconds before he let you fly, No,

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00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I think.

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 9: The fight cart was stacked, and you know there is

1306
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 9: a lot of the UFC does take criticism at times

1307
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 9: from the fan base, You know what I mean? And

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 9: you see rumblings, all little less quality, All these fight

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Speaker 9: cards aren't good anymore. Well, pretty stacked roster of six

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00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 9: seven hundred guys, and anyone that didn't enjoy the dollars

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Speaker 9: they spent on the pay per view on Saturday night,

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Speaker 9: come you know, act me.

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Speaker 8: So the big show just continues to deliver.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, to your point, John, whether you like Tump

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Speaker 9: or not, the way it feels in the building when

1316
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Speaker 9: he's there, it's like.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we're at a sporting event, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: The presidentay night of Face States, and the whole cabinet

1319
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 9: like sitting right over there. It feels just enormous and

1320
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 9: it's fun and the fight's just delivered.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, thanks buddy, appreciate your time. Have a

1322
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 6: great day and a better even. Jason Anak with us

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Speaker 6: here on the Anic and Floring podcast. It is crazy

1324
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 6: to have the entire cabinet sitting there and the Secret Service.

1325
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Speaker 6: I don't know if there was somebody filming for the

1326
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Speaker 6: White House and the President of the United States, but

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Speaker 6: you know, I look down, you know, I got a

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Speaker 6: trash can I spit into and put my scripts in

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Speaker 6: and whatever else, And yeah, I look down. I got

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Speaker 6: somebody there with you know, secret service, red tie or whatever.

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Speaker 6: He was doing right there at my ankle, but certainly

1332
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Speaker 6: a festive night there in Miami.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I can't fall.

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Speaker 6: I know your bat's been acting up a little better

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Speaker 6: Dominic rayis Kenny with this win. Gosh, my feel good

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Speaker 6: story doesn't even begin to describe it. But it's about

1366
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 6: more than that. It's about light heavyweight title contention, and

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Speaker 6: his process could be expedited here because of the history,

1368
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 6: the history against John Jones, the history of how trying

1369
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 6: his adversity in this division was concussively and otherwise right.

1370
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 6: So he's out there calling out Alexander Rocketch and a

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Speaker 6: rematch with Uri pro Hoska. What would you like to

1372
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 6: see next for Dominic Rays, I'm kind of surprised he

1373
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 6: didn't go for the Yambohovich t rematch.

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Speaker 7: What do you think, right? So, I like both of

1375
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 7: those matchups.

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Speaker 4: I think that his chances against pro Hosca is maybe

1377
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 4: a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit better, well, against both those guys.

1379
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Speaker 4: Because I think pro Hosca still gets a little bit

1380
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Speaker 4: reckless and he leads with his chin. He does a

1381
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: lot of blitzes, which lends itself well to that counter

1382
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: that he loves to throw rockets. Of course, you know,

1383
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 4: at number six right now, URI's a lot higher. I

1384
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: would always say go for the higher ranked guy, but

1385
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Speaker 4: I just think it's a better matchup for him. But

1386
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 4: Racket is certainly dangerous as well, very very good. But

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Speaker 4: I think pra Hosca might be the better matchup on paper.

1388
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Speaker 6: And I'm glad that Reyes lived in that win. And

1389
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 6: unless I'm mistaken or deaf or I was distracted with

1390
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 6: producer traffic noise, he didn't call out Alex Paeta, right,

1391
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 6: who in all likelihood is going to fight magabat alkalive.

1392
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 6: So I think he was probably maybe wise not to right,

1393
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Speaker 6: But certainly, if you're Dominic Grays. You land a fucking

1394
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 6: pool too. It's like, hey, po Aton, you know right,

1395
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you could really have have made some crazy noise,

1396
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 6: but that's just not necessarily his nature to create that

1397
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 6: type of clamor.

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Speaker 7: He's a tremendous athlete and dude.

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Speaker 6: On any given night, Dominic rays and my mind could

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Speaker 6: be the best light heavyweight athlete in the world in

1401
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 6: that you know, eight sided enclosure one hundred percent.

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 4: And that's how you that's how you build up your

1403
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: highlight realty, get that eventual shot.

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Speaker 7: You know, you knock people out. So was very happy

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 7: for Dominic.

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Speaker 6: That was cool, all right, congratulations to Dominic. Gray is

1407
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 6: now joining us to unpack everything that was UFC three

1408
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 6: fourteen Severe Mma. Sean Sheen is back with us, first

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 6: time in a long time. It's good to see a

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01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 6: good sir. It's always good to see your scorecard on

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 6: the screen. I mean, i'd imagine for you and your

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 6: woman and your family right sitting home and hey, I

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 6: mean the promotion must think something of your scorecard to

1414
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 6: populate it on the screen there during the main event.

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01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 13: I got yeah, it's great, until I get the Twitter

1416
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 13: replies and everyone calling me an idiot so that every week.

1417
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's been happening for a good few years,

1418
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 13: and I was I suppose it has worn off a

1419
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 13: bit the excitement, but yeah, the replies on Twitter certainly

1420
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 13: have So it's a it's a bubble edged sword, really,

1421
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 13: but yeah, it's good to see it up there.

1422
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: Especially in an amazing title fight like we had on

1423
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: Saturday night.

1424
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 6: Well, I would argue maybe you had it easier than

1425
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 6: me because I was suggestive on the air that it

1426
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 6: could be three nil Volkanovski and I didn't understand the

1427
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 6: clamor that was going on down the table from our

1428
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 6: matchmaker Sean Shelby and mcmaynard until DC Audi brought that

1429
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 6: to my attention on the broadcast, and then we sort

1430
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 6: of had fun with that a little bit.

1431
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 7: I don't know Kenny's card.

1432
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know that my card really matters,

1433
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 6: and I try to preface everything I say with that,

1434
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 6: but I did have it for one Alexander Volkanovski hit.

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 6: So as I messaged you, I was kind of delighted

1436
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 6: to see you see it thirty twenty seven because I

1437
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 6: trust your mind when it comes to this stuff. So

1438
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Speaker 6: you thought the main event was spectacular, I would imagine

1439
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: in totality, But how did you see it?

1440
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 7: So to speak, round by round?

1441
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I scored everyone for Volkanowski except the forth live

1442
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 13: and I watched it back and I felt the same way.

1443
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 13: There's definitely an argument that you could give Lopez the second.

1444
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 13: You know, when you get hit as hard as that

1445
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 13: and a knocked down in a round where there hasn't

1446
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 13: been loads of shots landed, there's definitely an argument. And

1447
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 13: in in the forth watching that back the way Volkanovski

1448
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 13: answers that that big operacot and the uppercot as well

1449
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 13: came after kind of the gloves to the eye which

1450
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 13: made it look worse. There's definitely an argument for Volkanowski

1451
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 13: actually win in the fourth as well. Could be five

1452
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 13: nail to Volkanovski, could be tree two to Lopez. The

1453
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 13: one thing I would say the difference I think between

1454
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 13: the fourth and the second. So in the fourth when

1455
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 13: he hit him with that uppercud, there was maybe like

1456
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 13: thirty seconds or forty five seconds of Volkanovski backing up

1457
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 13: showing that he was hurt.

1458
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: In the second round he got I watched it back today.

1459
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 13: I looked at the time he got dropped with eight

1460
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 13: seconds left, and with two seconds left, Volkanovsky was back

1461
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 13: in his fighting stance, ready to do what he does.

1462
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 13: So like there wasn't understand it was a good knockdown.

1463
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 13: It was a heavy knockdown. It should score, but the

1464
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 13: reaction from Volkanovski was very good. We will often talk

1465
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 13: about it's one of those little judging intricacies. You know,

1466
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 13: people have to say, oh, it scores heavier because it

1467
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 13: happened at the end of the round. Well it does

1468
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 13: sometimes because you don't have the ability to answer back.

1469
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 13: You know, you get knocked down suddenly the rounds in

1470
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 13: they're like, oh, is that guy recovered or not? If

1471
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 13: it happens with a minute left, he gets back up,

1472
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 13: he lands a couple of jabs, thinking all right, it

1473
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 13: didn't hurt him that much.

1474
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: So there is that kind of advent. The chair lookingly

1475
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: for Volkanovski.

1476
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 13: He maybe had that couple of seconds to actually get back,

1477
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 13: to get back to his feet, and judges see things

1478
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 13: like that. You know, you'd be very surprised the little

1479
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 13: things that judges pick up.

1480
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: But I haven't said that.

1481
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 13: At the same time, like Areia in that round, going

1482
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 13: back and watching it like Volkanovski landed this kind of

1483
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 13: good combo and it rocked Lopez backwards. But watching that

1484
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 13: back it was kind of like a I don't know

1485
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 13: how you describe it. It was like a forearm push type

1486
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 13: of shot that looked like it was a big almost

1487
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 13: knock down with the kind of the cage saving him.

1488
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: But it wasn't one retrospect.

1489
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 13: But when you're a judger, you know you're any of

1490
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 13: us watching at home, it's very hard to decipher that.

1491
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 13: I didn't see it really until the second watch, watching

1492
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 13: between rounds, until I show the replay from another angle.

1493
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 13: So but other than that, I think one tree and

1494
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 13: five anyway were very much Volcanovski rounds, and I enjoyed

1495
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 13: the fight, but I enjoyed it in like a spectacular

1496
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 13: performance from Volcano in the actual itself being. It won't

1497
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 13: be Fight of the Year or anything like that, but

1498
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 13: bring him Pharmas for Volkanowski, yeah, you.

1499
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 4: Know, I I had four rounds to one for Volkanovski

1500
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 4: as well, and I think it's tough for a fighter

1501
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: to come back Sean when you know you're you're getting

1502
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 4: outpointed on as far as strikes overall, right, I think

1503
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 4: it was like round one. I think Volkanowski tripled the

1504
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 4: output of what Lopez was throwing at him, and it

1505
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: was pretty much he doubled the output all the way throughout. Now,

1506
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: that knockdown was very interesting, but to you you basically

1507
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: think that that volume was was the difference, the fact

1508
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 4: that Volkanowski was landing more in landing more effective shots somewhat.

1509
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 13: But if Volkanowski had the volume without that big shot

1510
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 13: that rocked Lopez back. Now in retrospect, maybe it wasn't

1511
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 13: as big as we we thought, but it looked big

1512
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 13: at the time.

1513
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,919
Speaker 3: Like that's you know, we love the phrase, you know, knockdown.

1514
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 13: It wasn't the knockdown, but like if there was no cage,

1515
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 13: Genal would be knockdown diving. Volkanowsky had woned round up

1516
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 13: until that point. He goes further ahead with that damaging shot,

1517
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 13: and you have one damaging shot from Lopez at the end,

1518
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 13: Like does that overtake it? That's that's always like we

1519
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 13: saw fight a couple of weeks, okay, Lochran and uh

1520
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 13: and net Fletcher, and there's a similar start thing like

1521
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 13: Calan dominated four and a half minutes in a round

1522
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 13: and then later he got hit with this one big shot,

1523
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 13: like you know, that was more of like a volume one,

1524
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 13: but he had landed a few nice damaging shots as well.

1525
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 13: It's you know, judges are we look we we know

1526
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 13: damage is a thing. We know the effective striking is

1527
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 13: a big thing. But when someone is you know, really

1528
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 13: miles ahead, it takes a lot. Judge is not just

1529
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 13: going to ignore the shots that have been landed because

1530
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 13: like those are damaging shots as well. It's not just

1531
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 13: going to come down to one shot unless you know,

1532
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 13: it's a it's a Dan Henderson and and Michael Wispringer

1533
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 13: or something like that that they're you know, if it's close, absolutely,

1534
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 13: But in a round like that where Volkanovski is a

1535
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 13: good bit of head in the second and that hit

1536
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 13: a good big shot of his own, it's going to

1537
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 13: be very hard to turn that around.

1538
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: But there is an argument. There definitely is an argument

1539
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: for it.

1540
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 6: Severe mmh at dot com. Shan Sheen with us live

1541
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 6: on the anakmplorin podcast. I hope we have time and

1542
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 6: I trust we will to get to the Danny Yashaan

1543
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 6: Woodson thing and everything else. But I have to stay

1544
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 6: on round four if I could because upon further review,

1545
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 6: upon your rewatch, you still had round four. But the numbers, yes,

1546
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 6: do suggest that Volkanovsky landed twice as many strikes. But

1547
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 6: Sean my friend, right, sal Diamado, classy individual, has a

1548
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 6: lot of judging repetitions. I think he's one of the

1549
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 6: better judges, right, But is he in this moment sort

1550
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 6: of seeing somehow on a replay that the glove came

1551
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 6: in front of the most damaging strike singularly of the

1552
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 6: entire fight, and giving round four to Volkanovsky because for

1553
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 6: me as an MMA fan, first and foremost, the biggest

1554
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 6: shot of the fight, the closest the fight came to

1555
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 6: being finished. And maybe shame a little bit on Diego

1556
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 6: Lopez for not recognizing the moment and following up came

1557
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 6: in round four. And so I guess the way I've

1558
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 6: been trained by Sean Sheen and others is that round

1559
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 6: four has got to be diegos And am I allowed

1560
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 6: to be frustrated when it isn't some one of the

1561
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 6: three scorecards that actually matters.

1562
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 13: No, we're not allowed because there was a close round

1563
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 13: like we have to That's one of those things with judging.

1564
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 13: We can have our opinions, Like my opinion is that

1565
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 13: Lopez won the fourth round. You know, I agree with you.

1566
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 13: I agree with a lot of people who scored in

1567
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 13: the four But there is an argument that vulcan like

1568
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 13: if you so it happened around one forty five maybe

1569
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 13: to go or something in the four round. Volkanowski had

1570
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 13: been winning the rest of that round. But we leave

1571
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 13: that aside for a second. If you just watched the

1572
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 13: last one forty five of that round and just score

1573
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 13: that bit, there is still an argument that Volkanovski won

1574
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 13: that because after the the Volkanovski won, ignore that part.

1575
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: Volkanowski won the rest of that round.

1576
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 13: He was going backwards and Lopez did hit him in

1577
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 13: a couple he landed one nice right hand, but Volkanowski

1578
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 13: was landing loads of stuff and by the time the

1579
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 13: end of the round game he was back into you know,

1580
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 13: he's volcano Volkanoski scans for he was landing last every

1581
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 13: single time and it was really really good. And also

1582
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 13: to the other point, maybe he did see the glove

1583
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 13: to the eye, because Volkanovski reacted as if he was

1584
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 13: poked or as if he got something to the Maybe

1585
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 13: did see it. Now, sometimes you candies, Ye can see it,

1586
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 13: so I wouldn't. Even if he didn't, there still is

1587
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 13: an argument there. I went back and watched it, and

1588
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 13: I was kind of torn on it because Volkanovski did

1589
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 13: so much good work, Like there is a tendency to ignore,

1590
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 13: you know.

1591
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: The what actually happened outside of the shot. I don't

1592
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: there is a case here, I think, all.

1593
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 6: Right, so there's a case then for Volkanovski fifty to

1594
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 6: forty five. So in about thirty second, Sean, how did

1595
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 6: you think Diego Lopez fought on this night?

1596
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: I thought he did as well as he could.

1597
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 13: Volkanovski is a far far superior fighter. Watching on that

1598
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 13: last week, you're not trying to kind of predict too

1599
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 13: would win and stuff. It was it was so hard

1600
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 13: to see a path of victory for Diego Lopes. And

1601
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 13: that's not against Diego. You know, he's an up and

1602
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 13: coming fighter, and maybe if this fight happened in three

1603
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 13: or four years in my be a different story. But Volcanoski,

1604
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 13: in my opinion, he is I know you're talking about

1605
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 13: Mount Mount Rushmore and all that, but I'm not a

1606
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 13: big fan of the.

1607
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 3: Goat the debate.

1608
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 13: I like, who's the best, right, and I maintained and

1609
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 13: I'll go to my dead bed saying that Dimitris Johnson

1610
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 13: is the best unless someone else comes out. I think

1611
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 13: Volkanowski might be the second best. I think he's that good.

1612
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 13: He's absolutely amazing. And I'll be honest, I didn't think

1613
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 13: we had one hundred percent in Volkanowski on Saturday night,

1614
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 13: but it was enough. And like Diego Lopez, as good

1615
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 13: as he is, he doesn't have the technical acumen to

1616
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 13: stand up there with Volkanovski. I said it there. Volkanowski

1617
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 13: was last. You know we often here fighter has been

1618
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 13: told in the corner b first, be first. Volkanowski was

1619
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 13: last every time, and yeah he put he put that

1620
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 13: at that apex, you know, on every exchange. It was

1621
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 13: like a Volkanovski and that he landed the best. Last

1622
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 13: we exchange again, he landed the vestment last. Yeah. You know,

1623
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 13: there is this argument like, oh, Volcanovski or Lopez should

1624
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 13: have thrown more, he should have gone for it. It's

1625
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 13: we have a phrase here in Irish sports. You can't

1626
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 13: keep the ball pucked out to him, like you hit

1627
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 13: the ball out, they get it. They score, you hit

1628
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 13: the ball out, they get it. They score. Every time

1629
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 13: Lopez tried to score, it was Volkanski that was the

1630
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 13: one that was scoring. He was counting the shots and

1631
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 13: beat him up. Like Rogan called it very well for

1632
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 13: a smaller guy to be able to counter like that,

1633
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 13: show us what an exceptional fighter he is. And Lopez

1634
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 13: was like, he was right, and he's on debt warrents

1635
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 13: by attacking him, So what are you supposed to do?

1636
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 13: Like could he wrestle more or tried to clinch it

1637
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 13: up or something like that. Maybe, but he's a younger

1638
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 13: fighter and in future maybe that's something he might be

1639
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 13: able to do. But on Saturday night there was only

1640
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 13: one winner at that fight from early and that you

1641
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 13: know the chain, The chain is the is the issue

1642
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 13: with Volkanowski because he has been knocked out twice in

1643
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 13: a row. Now, if I'm saying if, if, maybe, if

1644
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 13: he's next, a more technical fighter Lopez who can hit hard,

1645
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 13: can get there.

1646
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: Now, I think Volkanowski will beat him. I will pick

1647
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: Volcanoski in that fight.

1648
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 13: But I would give if liv are people like that

1649
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 13: more of a chance now to beat Volkanowski than I

1650
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 13: would have a few years ago, because you know, he's

1651
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 13: beating those rights of the over thirty five things all,

1652
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 13: but those records are there for a reason to do

1653
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 13: with when you're that age, especially after a couple of knockouts.

1654
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 13: So it's not going to get any easier for Volkanowski.

1655
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 13: But to do it the way he did it absolutely amazing.

1656
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 6: That's a really, really thoughtful answer, and you were able

1657
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 6: to touch on a number of different themes. There got

1658
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 6: a couple more minutes with Shan Chin and then we

1659
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 6: will be joined.

1660
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 7: By lightweight of the Week Chase Hooper.

1661
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 6: But I guess the lightweight of the week you could

1662
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 6: argue you could also be Patty Pimblet. Sean and I

1663
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: do have one more on that before I tossed the

1664
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 6: baton back over to Kent Flow. So to what degree

1665
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 6: have you long believed in Paddy Pimblet And to what degree,

1666
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,480
Speaker 6: I guess, if at all, has he exceeded your expectation

1667
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 6: to becoming one of the very best in the very

1668
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:42,879
Speaker 6: best division.

1669
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 13: I have not long believed that, Patty, and he has

1670
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 13: massively overtaken my expectations. I was one of the people

1671
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 13: who he talks about that said he couldn't get ranked

1672
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 13: and said he couldn't get at the top ten when

1673
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 13: he shout out people, you know, look look at me now,

1674
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 13: it's me. You know, he's talking to people like me.

1675
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 13: I watched him through Cage Wars and I remember thinking

1676
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 13: at the time there was three or four light wets

1677
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 13: and cage Wars, and I'm thinking, all these lads can

1678
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 13: beat him, and I you know, I stand by it.

1679
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: I think at the time they could have beaten him.

1680
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 13: But Paddy, you know, he got to the USC, he

1681
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 13: got a bit of money, he got the barstool sponsorship,

1682
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 13: and a lot of lads at that stage, you know,

1683
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 13: they might have gone off and they might have gone

1684
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 13: off the rails a little bit and done, you know,

1685
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 13: bought cars and houses and Paddy, you know, paddied a

1686
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 13: couple of kids. He's training, okay, you know, he went

1687
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 13: over to Mammy and did have been eating for a while.

1688
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 13: But it feels like for the last eighteen months Paddy

1689
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 13: has been in the gym. He looks amazing, amazing, Jape like,

1690
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 13: if you watch his vlogs, all his dogs are training,

1691
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 13: train and train and training, and he has improved a

1692
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 13: whole lot. I love Kenny's tweet about you know the

1693
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 13: kind of the graph. It's Chandler on the way down

1694
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 13: and Paddy on the way up and where they're going

1695
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 13: to meet.

1696
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: That's why I love this fight so much.

1697
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 13: Like I tweeted, it's years since I look forward to

1698
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 13: the fight as much as this, and some people like

1699
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 13: are like, oh, what are you talking about?

1700
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 3: But it's just the perfect fight. Like who's I did?

1701
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 13: I had no idea who's gonna win, and that's what

1702
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 13: we want at the end of the day, Paddy. Paddy

1703
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 13: changed up his game plan for the Ferguson fight from

1704
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 13: the the Bobby Green fight.

1705
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 3: He was way more active going forward.

1706
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 13: It's a way he can fight I think in the

1707
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 13: future as well, which he can go five rounds fighting

1708
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 13: that way going forward. You know he has we know,

1709
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 13: we all know his deficiencies, maybe defensively, but that's usually

1710
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 13: when he's gone backwards. If he can fight going forward,

1711
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 13: get his game going going forward and then bring his wrestling,

1712
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 13: and he's elite.

1713
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: Is amazing into.

1714
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: It, Paddy.

1715
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 3: You know, there's there might be another shotcoming.

1716
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 13: So I the one thing I will say about Patty,

1717
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 13: I didn't believe in his skill set, but I believed

1718
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 13: in Paddy as a person and as a character. And

1719
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 13: you know, I've no dog in the game. Whoever wins wins.

1720
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 13: But I always kind of hoped Paddy would go on

1721
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 13: a run because it's so fun and you know, spoke

1722
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 13: earlierbou the crowd getting behind him now it's it's brilliant.

1723
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: So long may he reign the King of the North.

1724
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 7: Yes, I love it.

1725
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 4: Shot so so many great performances on Saturday Night. But

1726
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 4: for you, who's the biggest winner of the night and

1727
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 4: who's the biggest loser of the night in your opinion.

1728
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 13: I think Bryce Mitchell is probably the biggest loser of

1729
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 13: the night, the week, the year for the way he

1730
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 13: has acted and how he got you know, destroyed by Silva,

1731
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 13: who really wanted to take it that seriously. He just

1732
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 13: kind of went out and they kind of played with him,

1733
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 13: and I actually thought Bryce did okay in the fight,

1734
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 13: but yeah, Silva just kind of took him to pieces

1735
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 13: in the end.

1736
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: There's a I think there's a lot of big winners.

1737
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 13: You know, if Chase Super coming on here, I thought

1738
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 13: after that tough first round, enough for Jim Miller did

1739
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 13: well and showed he's veterans heavy who turned things around

1740
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 13: and did so well in that fight.

1741
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 3: So if you're played to him.

1742
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 13: I thought, I know, if you want to touch in

1743
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 13: the judging, I thought he was a big winner, you know, yeah,

1744
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 13: year as well, beating Patricio, Like what a tough matchup

1745
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 13: for Patricia coming in to the UFC, like a nightmare

1746
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 13: matchup for him.

1747
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you.

1748
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 13: Look at the main card, right, every single winner on

1749
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 13: that was a big winner, like Gray is getting you

1750
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 13: know this phrase all the way back for Dominic. Everyone

1751
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 13: seems to be said it absolutely brilliant. Silva going on

1752
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 13: now is going to be ranked Yeah, year, maybe getting

1753
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 13: title shot. Paddy, I heard you talking earlier about like

1754
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 13: why did Nicoll out Islam? I think he should have

1755
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 13: maybe as well. You never know, like look, we all

1756
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 13: thought Shafka was gonna fight Blal, he's not fighting him now.

1757
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: He might need to be fighting next.

1758
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 13: So Paddy and putting himself back in the pitchers, one

1759
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 13: of the greatest of all time.

1760
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,440
Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant, massive knight for ThEC.

1761
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 6: Sean you're the man, and uh yeah, I guess I

1762
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 6: just need to book you for longer, you know, because

1763
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 6: there's a lot to unpack in terms of Andrew Glenn

1764
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 6: and Mike Beltron and everything that happened there in ten seconds,

1765
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 6: you know, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

1766
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: He gave us two rounds up in that fight. I

1767
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: watched it back.

1768
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 13: I think it's one of those ones where you you

1769
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 13: look at the numbers and it came up with twenty

1770
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 13: shots to eleven. Dan Egan landed all the best shots

1771
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 13: in that first round. And I'm a massive Sean Woodson fan.

1772
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 13: I he's one of those guys. I just love his style.

1773
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 13: Dan IgE was winning that fight. The sappage was horrendous,

1774
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 13: don't get me wrong. Andrew Gain attempted to stop it

1775
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 13: on the feet beforehand or not attempted, but I thought

1776
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 13: about it if you watch it back, and that's why

1777
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 13: he stopped it with the hammer fizz because he was like,

1778
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 13: oh she should I stop this fight?

1779
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 12: No?

1780
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 13: No, no, does you stop it now? Very pretty bad stoppage,

1781
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 13: very bad stoppage. But I think you Eagan landed harder

1782
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 13: shots like it doesn't matter the numbers.

1783
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 3: Yep, someone's handing jobs from the outside.

1784
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 13: Show me one big hard shot that Woods and London

1785
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 13: and showed me all the big hard shots that Ego landed,

1786
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 13: and Egan landed five or six of them in Eatron

1787
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 13: and Woodson didn't land any and I picked Woodson coming

1788
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 13: in as I said, big Woodson fan, but he gave

1789
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 13: us one enough fight.

1790
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 6: In my opinion, I see don at Shaan she and

1791
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: Ba my brother, outstanding work. We appreciate your time as always,

1792
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 6: and I feel better about round four. Have a great

1793
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 6: day and U a better evening, my man. Thank you, thanks, guys,

1794
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 6: appreciate it. There he is Shaun Sheen with us live

1795
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 6: on the Anakin Florian podcast. All right, I'm excited for

1796
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 6: our guests of the week. This week's fider call brought

1797
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1798
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1799
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 7: And there he is.

1800
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 6: I mean a lot of green stripes on the Wikipedia

1801
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 6: page for Chase Hooper.

1802
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 7: I think it's five in a row.

1803
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 6: Congratulations man, it's great to see you outstanding work in

1804
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 6: a division that makes it very hard to do what

1805
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 6: you're doing. And there is never an easy time to

1806
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 6: beat Jim Miller. He is still at the height of

1807
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 6: discipline and motivation and beating other people.

1808
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 7: So congrats. I hope you're enjoying the fruits. Man.

1809
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 6: How are we feeling on a Monday on the back

1810
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 6: end of a huge win.

1811
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, thanks, Yeah, five in a row. It's

1812
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 14: it's crazy to think back now, and yeah, I mean

1813
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 14: we're doing the damn thing. And yeah, I mean I

1814
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 14: really feel like in the fight too, just comparing it

1815
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 14: to the Clay fight, Like I felt that Miller was

1816
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 14: still in there, like like you still the dog in him,

1817
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 14: where I felt like Clay was not as like the

1818
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 14: want wasn't there as much, but I felt that Jim

1819
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 14: was wanting to get the wind. Still that on Saturday

1820
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 14: and watching it back and I feel better about all

1821
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 14: the grappling and stuff. I guess I just let the

1822
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 14: fans sway me too much as far as my post

1823
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 14: fight mood goes. But they was foiled in Miami, and hey,

1824
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 14: I thought it was pretty pretty solid watching it back.

1825
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 7: Chase it it seemed really dominant.

1826
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1827
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 4: Your your grappling was on points as usual. My question

1828
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 4: is you know you're always going for submissions, which I

1829
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 4: absolutely love. Is that something that you're working on for

1830
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 4: a particular fighter, like I'm going to try to get

1831
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 4: him in this, or that I'm showing certain vulnerabilities or

1832
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 4: this is just or is this just a the nature

1833
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,480
Speaker 4: of your style as a grappler.

1834
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel that I'm

1835
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 14: always chasing the subs. I would have liked to hit

1836
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 14: Jim a little more, but his defense was great, like

1837
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 14: these positions like where I had the body trying to

1838
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 14: like on the back, whether he was standing or on

1839
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 14: the ground, Like he was always controlling one of the gloves.

1840
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 14: So it's it's like he was doing a great job

1841
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 14: defending the strikes. I would have liked to hit him

1842
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 14: a little more, but I mean, I just felt that

1843
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 14: the trying to I was trying to free my arm

1844
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 14: the whole time.

1845
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 8: And he's a dog.

1846
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 14: I mean, Jim hasn't been finished in seven years, and

1847
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 14: there's a reason for it. I felt that he had

1848
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 14: like kind of answers for all the stuff. I guess

1849
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 14: I was partially surprised in the moment a little just

1850
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 14: with his uh, his defense for like the cast lighter,

1851
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 14: because he again was like grabbing the glove, I mean

1852
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 14: the legal way. Obviously he wasn't digging in there, but

1853
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 14: you know, it's really hard when they grab right at

1854
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 14: the cuff to like pull it away, and I didn't

1855
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 14: have enough of an angle to you know, get the

1856
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 14: torque with just one arm against his leg. I was

1857
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 14: really impressed with his defense. But yeah, no, I mean

1858
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 14: I feel I'm always trying to attack for subs. It

1859
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 14: always opens things up. And then again, I would have

1860
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 14: liked to hit a little more. I think that would

1861
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 14: have opened up the submission game even more. But uh,

1862
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 14: I don't know. That's just my style of jiu jitsu.

1863
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 14: I like to try and keep it as exciting as

1864
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 14: I can.

1865
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1866
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Chase, you're still so young man and you've

1867
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: gone on quite a run. Do you feel like there's

1868
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: gonna be a big fight ahead? And if so, like,

1869
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 4: who are some of the guys that you're you're looking

1870
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 4: at a potential as potential opponents.

1871
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I've mentioned some of the younger guys

1872
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 14: like the Frezyms, the uh I mentioned Tom Nolan, all

1873
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 14: the off guys like like that matchup. Just these other

1874
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 14: guys that are on some wind streaks. I think UFC

1875
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 14: generally tries to keep the younger guys away until they

1876
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 14: kind of have to. And uh, I don't know, just

1877
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 14: so that these are bigger fights, you know, up higher

1878
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 14: on the cards, I don't know that the fans will

1879
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 14: maybe think of it as as big of a fight

1880
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 14: as it is. But you know, fres Is also on

1881
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 14: a five fight win streak. People were asking about, like, oh,

1882
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 14: what about the Bobby Green fight, Like, I don't think

1883
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 14: they'd make that after the Roofie loss, and uh I

1884
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 14: believe he lost.

1885
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he's lost. Jim Miller win.

1886
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, so yeah, And it's like, I don't you know right,

1887
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 14: It's it's the same boat that I'm in where people

1888
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 14: are like, oh, you're fighting all the old guys again,

1889
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 14: where I don't know. I can't care too much with

1890
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 14: the fans, I have to say as far as that goes,

1891
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 14: Like UFC books the fights they want. I mean, I

1892
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 14: can ask as much as I want and then they'll

1893
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 14: be like, how about you fight this guy? So I mean,

1894
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 14: I try not to chase it too much much, but yeah,

1895
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:02,839
Speaker 14: either of those younger guys would be awesome.

1896
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 6: Chase Hooper with us live on the anake Emplorian podcast.

1897
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 6: So your career began, you were featured on a lot

1898
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 6: of numbered cards, and you sort of navigated the waters

1899
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 6: of some criticism and came out the other side. And

1900
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 6: now I see you jab and it just feels like

1901
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 6: a jab in the face of all of your naysayers,

1902
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 6: because you snap it off in a way that you know,

1903
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 6: just I think sort of speaks to a lot of

1904
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 6: the experience that you've accrued, a lot of good repetitions

1905
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 6: and the coaching that you've used to your advantage. And

1906
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 6: you do entertain because you're on these numbered cards again.

1907
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that you know, there's always a

1908
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 6: rhyme to the reason, but like, obviously would you say

1909
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 6: that in the eyes of some matchmaker, you're doing something

1910
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 6: right because you are being prominently featured and they can

1911
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 6: count on you to be pursuant of maybe finishes.

1912
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 7: Or at the very least submission over position.

1913
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 14: I think some of the time, yeah, I mean, I

1914
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 14: think I think it's pretty clear, like with the matchmaking

1915
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 14: and stuff, like you look at evilv you know, who

1916
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 14: are respectfully belall like these guys they're giving them the

1917
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 14: long routs up to the top versus like a Patty pimblet.

1918
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 14: Patty's a great fighter, so is Blall, so is mos

1919
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 14: are like. But there's a there's an entertainment aspect to it.

1920
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 14: And when people click with the fans and they you know,

1921
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 14: they get the fans going, they're exciting. I think when

1922
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 14: UFC things that they can make a lot of money

1923
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 14: off of somebody, then they obviously start to, you know,

1924
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 14: try and invest in that. I mean, that's the thing is,

1925
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 14: it's entertainment at the end of the day. It isn't

1926
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 14: purely sport, and that's you can see that with the matchmaking.

1927
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 14: And yeah, thankfully I believe I'm closer on the entertainment

1928
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 14: side of it, you know. I mean, they're not just

1929
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 14: feeding me to all the Dagistani's or all the Eastern

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Speaker 14: European guys. You know, it's we're getting good, reasonable matchups. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: I mean, I'm trying to keep it that way as

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Speaker 14: long as I can. I mean, that's probably part of

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Speaker 14: the reason I was disappointed I didn't get a finish,

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Speaker 14: But you know, I still feel at least watching it

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Speaker 14: back in the moment, I mean, it's hard to tell

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Speaker 14: if the fight's exciting or not.

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Speaker 7: You're in the I don't know what a fucking truck

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Speaker 7: position is. Try to get a crucial fix.

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Speaker 6: I mean I think, yeah, dude, I don't know what

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Speaker 6: to tell you, right, I mean, certainly certain crowds right

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Speaker 6: and biased, who is like Boston Massachusetts because I'm from there,

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Speaker 6: But like they don't really boo the wrestling and the

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Speaker 6: grappling because I just think maybe they understand that they're

1944
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Speaker 6: mixing the martial arts. In Miami was just a little

1945
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 6: bit uh impatient, I think when it came to some

1946
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Speaker 6: of the grappling very early on in the night. But yeah, dude,

1947
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Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that sort of go into

1948
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Speaker 6: it now in terms of like fighting Tom Nolan overseas

1949
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Speaker 6: and I thought that's a great call out or uh

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Speaker 6: you know, I mean, are you more about like a

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Speaker 6: timeline right now or a destination?

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Speaker 7: Like how do you see the rest of the year planning.

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Speaker 14: Honestly, if I could never fight in Australia or any

1954
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Speaker 14: of these foreign countries, I'd be pretty content.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't mind if you are calling out,

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Speaker 6: you know, big train Tom Nolan.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, make them come over here. I mean,

1958
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Speaker 14: I ain't taking forty percent tacks. Come on, that's why

1959
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 14: nobody wants to fight there, you know, right, Yeah, come on,

1960
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Speaker 14: I'm losing half. It's as if I'm losing just fighting

1961
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Speaker 14: over there to begin with.

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Speaker 6: Come on, so with fans chase, Yeah, like so bla Muhammad. Right,

1963
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Speaker 6: maybe there isn't always connective tissue with the fans, and

1964
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Speaker 6: I think it hurts him in the in the court

1965
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Speaker 6: of public opinion because his fighting style is actually way

1966
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Speaker 6: more exciting than people realize. He's a dynamic or he

1967
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Speaker 6: is positioned over submission, right, but he won't get credit

1968
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Speaker 6: for his striking because maybe he doesn't have that complete connectivity.

1969
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Speaker 7: So how do you do it?

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Speaker 5: Man?

1971
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Speaker 6: It's like it's hard enough to like be a lightweight

1972
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Speaker 6: contender to get a number next to your name, So

1973
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 6: to what extent do you prioritize that connection with fans

1974
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 6: in terms of I even't seen Corey Sandhagen thinking outside

1975
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 6: the box, maybe because he thinks he has to at

1976
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 6: this state of his career.

1977
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Speaker 14: Yeah again, like, like I mentioned, this is not purely

1978
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 14: a sport, you know, like entertainment is a huge aspect

1979
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Speaker 14: of it. I feel like I don't know some of

1980
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 14: the other more traditional sports like NBA, NFL, like you

1981
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 14: can get really far just purely by your athletic prowess,

1982
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 14: but you have c being an individual sport, like you

1983
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 14: have to have the full package if you want to

1984
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 14: maximize I guess your time in the cage, like again,

1985
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 14: because we're only fighting you know, two three times a year.

1986
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Speaker 14: Three times a year, it would be a lot for

1987
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 14: most people, Like and that's what forty five minutes out

1988
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Speaker 14: of an entire year that people are seeing you at

1989
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 14: the most, So you really have to maximize the time

1990
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 14: outside and all these opportunities that are provided. So it's

1991
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 14: I don't know, it's it's trying to leverage the social

1992
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 14: media game and like not do it in like a

1993
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 14: corny way, like I'm trying to, I don't know, do

1994
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 14: things because I think it's funny and if other people

1995
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 14: like it, then that's great, you know, that's just how

1996
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 14: it goes. I mean, I'm trying to have fun with it.

1997
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 14: You know this again, it's a ridiculous sport. We fight

1998
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 14: in our underwear for a living, you know, why be

1999
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 14: too serious about it. I feel like a lot of

2000
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 14: fighters have like a ton of ego, Like, you know,

2001
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 14: they don't like interacting with the fans because it is

2002
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 14: very volatile and like they either love you or they

2003
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 14: hate you, and even if you win, you're still going

2004
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 14: to get people telling you how garbage you are. And like, yeah,

2005
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Speaker 14: I don't know, I feel like starting so young, like

2006
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 14: on the Contender series, getting beat up for a little

2007
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 14: bit and then coming back and winning. Like I already

2008
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,480
Speaker 14: had people in the comments like hating on me immediately

2009
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 14: after I checked my phone, Like half of the.

2010
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 2: Comments were like you suck.

2011
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Speaker 14: You know, UFC shouldn't assigned you, you know, retire now,

2012
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 14: give up and then like that you just stop caring

2013
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 14: when when it's eighteen. I mean I cared at the time,

2014
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Speaker 14: and then you know, you just get used to it.

2015
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Speaker 14: I mean, I'm twenty five now, I've been dealing with

2016
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Speaker 14: these people for seven years.

2017
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I have straight UFC wins at twenty five

2018
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Speaker 6: years of age. Is heady stuff for Chase Hooper. You

2019
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 6: can call this man at Chase Underscore Hooper and you

2020
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 6: know can happened pretty quickly too. And it's interesting because

2021
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 6: Patty pimblet as entertaining as he was, and yes he

2022
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 6: could say he won the weekend, right, but one of

2023
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 6: the things on my fighter card, I'm not sure if

2024
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 6: I got to it, but winning at all costs man, right,

2025
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Speaker 6: And like, you know that win over Jim Miller at

2026
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 6: whatever age is going to age gracefully, and you have

2027
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Speaker 6: certainly aged gracefully in the UFC. So We appreciate your

2028
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Speaker 6: time and hope you can enjoy it. You know, a

2029
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 6: lot of fighters have a hard time enjoying these wins

2030
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Speaker 6: for whatever reason, but you seem to be a guy

2031
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 6: who's mentally levelheaded enough to enjoy it.

2032
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Speaker 7: So enjoy the fruits.

2033
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Speaker 6: Want to give you a little shine today, my man,

2034
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Speaker 6: and we will talk to you down the line.

2035
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Speaker 7: I'm sure.

2036
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Speaker 14: Awesome, Thank you so much. Great to talk to you guys,

2037
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Speaker 14: And yeah, I hope talk.

2038
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Speaker 2: He's in there.

2039
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Speaker 6: He is Chase Hooper with us live on the Anic

2040
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Speaker 6: Imploring Podcast. Very interesting proposition for the matchmakers as well,

2041
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 6: you know, because I don't know if it's mcmahonor or

2042
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 6: Shawn Shelby.

2043
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Speaker 7: Sometimes I get confused.

2044
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Speaker 6: But either way, you know, submission guys and guys who

2045
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 6: can finish you in that way are just very exciting

2046
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 6: because there are so many moments of consequence, you know

2047
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 6: what I mean. It doesn't matter if the statisticians are

2048
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 6: stingy with the submission attempts handing them out in terms

2049
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 6: of how many you actually attempt, right, I mean that

2050
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 6: truck position can fill that looks like that is not fun.

2051
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 7: This is not the gentle art, No, no, not at all.

2052
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Speaker 7: And that's the thing.

2053
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Speaker 4: You know, he really is going forward and you could

2054
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 4: tell that I already knew that the answer to my question.

2055
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 4: But this is the guy who's working on trying to

2056
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 4: have an exciting style, maybe not to entertain the fans,

2057
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 4: just because that's the way he likes to fight. He

2058
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 4: wants to go out there deliver good performances. He wants

2059
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 4: to get the finished. I think it was more the

2060
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 4: toughness and experience of Jim Miller than any deficiency in

2061
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 4: what Chase Hooper was doing necessarily.

2062
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 6: But interesting intel right off the top, to be sure,

2063
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Speaker 6: just in terms of how President Jim Miller was in fight,

2064
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 6: you know that was desperate to not get finished.

2065
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Speaker 2: All right.

2066
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Speaker 6: Thanks to everybody for joining us today, Ray long Ago,

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Speaker 6: Jason Andik, Chase Hooper, Sean She and Spirited at show

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Speaker 6: today recapping UFC three fourteen. Congratulations to Alexander the Great Volkanovsky.

2069
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Speaker 6: Perhaps the moniker has never been more appropriate than it

2070
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Speaker 6: is after what he did against Diego Lopez, who of

2071
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Speaker 6: course we'll be back and yeah, Diego Lopez, Yah.

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Speaker 7: You're Rodriguez.

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Speaker 6: Five round comin event at altitude in Guadalhara, Mexico, UFC

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Speaker 6: three twenty take my money. Thanks to our producer Cody Merrow.

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