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Speaker 2: Coming to you from the oh from I Almost Did It,

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Speaker 2: Almost Did It? My Bad? Coming to you from Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Sherman Oaks, California. Welcome, Welcome in. It's a Friday,

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Speaker 2: a football Friday, a baseball Friday, an NBA Friday. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot to get to, a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna actually work backwards.

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Speaker 2: Jaycee's like, wait what, That's not what we planned on.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, give me a second, Jason. So the play

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Speaker 2: we want to have to start the show, which is

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Speaker 2: the end of the Dodgers and Phillies series. As we

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Speaker 3: Heart rates through the room.

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Speaker 4: The old one pitch Pa has grounds it.

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Speaker 5: Back to kirk Ry. He can't find it.

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Speaker 2: He does home.

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Speaker 6: It's one ten stores and the Dodgers are going.

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Speaker 5: To the Championship Series fireworks.

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Speaker 4: Golf in Center Field.

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Speaker 7: The Dodgers celebrate here space on a ground.

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Speaker 5: Bull bets to the pitcher.

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Speaker 6: Andy po has somehow gets the job done.

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Speaker 2: Paz gets the somehow gets the job done. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to the play in a second. First, that's the that's

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Speaker 2: AM five seventy LA Sports, the Dodgers radio network with

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Speaker 2: the call. Here's the Phillies Radio Network with the exact

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Speaker 2: same call.

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Speaker 5: The O one swinging a broken back comebacker Kirkering knocks

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Speaker 5: it down, picks it up, fris wildly home to the

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Speaker 5: back stop and the season is over.

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Speaker 8: The Dodgers rushing out past O'Ryan Kirkering, who stands with

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Speaker 8: his hands on his knees bent over.

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Speaker 2: So I'll get to what our our group text was,

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Speaker 2: because we probably should have hopped on a call because

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Speaker 2: it was weird. First, here's here's a Ryan Kirkering who

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Speaker 2: made the uh the season ending error. Hey had this

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Speaker 2: exchange with reporters.

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Speaker 6: How much do you think you can use this kind

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Speaker 6: of in the offseason too, you know for good for sure?

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Speaker 7: Yeah the wall with the test wall for sure. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Keep going with it.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully it started a long career.

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Speaker 7: Just keep back in my head and this really ups

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Speaker 7: right now, but hopefully keep pushing when to get over this.

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Speaker 2: If you watch the game, you saw Rob Thompson, who's

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Speaker 2: the manager of the Phillies, grab kirk Kring before he

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Speaker 2: left the field. Here's what he said, or he said

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Speaker 2: he said to kirk Kring after the game.

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Speaker 9: Rob, obviously heartbreaking way to lose to get a long

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Speaker 9: conversation with Oryan coming off the field.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to share little what you told him or.

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Speaker 9: Just to keep his head up. You know, he just

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Speaker 9: I feel I feel for him because he's he's putting

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Speaker 9: team and we lose as the teams.

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Speaker 2: Here's Dave Roberts when he was asked about the final play.

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Speaker 9: What are your feelings when it comes to Ryan Kirkering

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Speaker 9: right now seeing that happen on the other side.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's brutal. Obviously they played great.

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Speaker 10: Defense tonight, and you know it's one of those things

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Speaker 3: So you know, Kirkering is a stud.

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Speaker 2: And do we do we think he forgot the outs

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Speaker 2: in his honesty, he didn't say that. And if you

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Speaker 3: It was Kim.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's Kim missed the plate. Apologize. So my question is,

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Speaker 2: forgot how many outs there were.

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Speaker 4: No. We have sound of that running it through edit.

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Speaker 4: Right now he explains that it was indeed not that

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Speaker 4: the explanation it's forthcoming the Kim missed home plate because

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Speaker 4: nobody in the stadium thought that throw was coming home,

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Speaker 2: If we are talking about, shouldn't you have had the slide?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, not have to you should you should

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Speaker 4: so unordinary. Jeff Frankcoor in the moment on the live

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Speaker 4: that play, that's the only explanation.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought the explanation was he bobbled the ball

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Speaker 4: That's his explanation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that's a reasonable buyer. You're you're

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Speaker 11: I I thought that he thought that there was one

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Speaker 11: doesn't make any sense like if you if you knew

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Speaker 11: doesn't make any sense. But I thought when the play happened,

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Speaker 2: I even said that, here's the here's the full Oriyan

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, I mean just kind of once the

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Speaker 3: Sorrow. Yeah, did you did you hear them calling telling

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Speaker 4: Or were you just in the moment that it wasn't even.

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Speaker 7: Just in the mode?

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Speaker 7: Up, just kind of looking up, just be ready again?

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Speaker 6: Any A lot of guys in the game of christ

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Speaker 6: One's there. The guys say that just keep your head up.

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Speaker 6: It's lost mistake.

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Speaker 7: Just baseball happens, and just keep your head up will

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Speaker 7: be good for a long time. They come, it's not

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Speaker 3: Had a conversation to be same.

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Speaker 5: What thats that?

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Speaker 8: I mean?

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Speaker 9: You know, those guys.

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Speaker 6: Picking you up so quick means a lot, shows they

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Speaker 6: care a lot, just means everything for sure. I'm sure

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Speaker 6: a lot of guys in here I've had moments early

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Speaker 3: You know, how much do you think you can use

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Speaker 7: for sure? Yeah, the wall with a test wall for sure.

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Speaker 2: kirklands that that was his explanation. Again, I I I'm

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Speaker 2: But we are sort of diminishing the fact that he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're disagreeing with anything. You asked

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Speaker 2: Explanation, But but now what do you think now? You

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Speaker 4: Of course, that's his that's what he said. That's his explanation.

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Speaker 8: No, we didn't.

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Speaker 2: He just said I lost track outs.

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Speaker 4: He said, no, no, no, I didn't the pressure. He

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Speaker 4: just said that the pressure got to me and I

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Speaker 4: threw home. So I believe him, Yes.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't say that he didn't know how many

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Speaker 4: Never he never said that that was what we speculated

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Speaker 4: in the moment. That's what Jeff said in the moment.

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Speaker 2: But you still believe that I didn't know the outs? Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the magic of sports. This is where I understand.

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Speaker 2: I actually had. I had a great conversation with Don Yeger.

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Speaker 2: I have a new podcast out. I think it drops today.

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Speaker 2: Jase du knows more about that when it actually drops

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Speaker 2: than I do. And Don Yeger wrote a book called

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Speaker 2: The Science of Momentum. And one of the questions I

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Speaker 2: asked is, you know, their analytics is such a strong

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Speaker 2: part of every every business, now, every sports franchise, college

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Speaker 2: sports as well. We use the analytics company all of

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Speaker 2: these things. But what the data people will tell you

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Speaker 2: is there's no such thing as momentum. Okay, it it

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Speaker 2: always you know, regresses to the mean, and that's just

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Speaker 2: those are well you feel like momentum, those are human

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Speaker 2: that the stats, the data doesn't lie, It doesn't take

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Speaker 2: the data we have, this is how many times this

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you that last night is the

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Speaker 2: perfect example of I'm respectful towards the data. I'm respectful

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Speaker 2: towards analytics. It plays a huge factor in how you

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Doug.

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Speaker 4: Remember one we had Matt Holiday on was it on Tuesday?

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Speaker 4: You guys specifically talked about this, that it's really tough

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Speaker 4: Matt Holliday said it. He's like when you're used to

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Speaker 11: And doug in your sport. How many times do we

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Speaker 3: So you just throw up.

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Speaker 2: All the time you miss that to the timing in

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Speaker 2: And look, a lot of that is experience, and with baseball,

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Speaker 3: Year Dodger Stadium. Yeah, nothing you can do.

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Speaker 2: And so guys can be the coolest there is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this. Baseball has two completely different seasons,

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Speaker 2: and oh, fudge, only you didn't say fudge. Gosh. I

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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on

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Speaker 2: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio quick update, guys,

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Speaker 2: uh buyer, I don't are you a Chipotle guy.

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Speaker 3: Buyer, I've never been to Chipotle.

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Speaker 2: Reow, Sammy.

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Speaker 3: I love Chipotle above q Doba. Uh. You know, I

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Speaker 12: I just haven't had enough of it to really like

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Speaker 12: equate it to Chipotle, but very similar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I just did. Right.

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Speaker 2: There a new dipping sauce for Chipotle, Jimmy Cheery sauce.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Cheery sauce. Just if you're if you're driving and

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Speaker 2: you're listening to us and you're like, oh, Champoli sounds

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Chery's okay. Just for people who want to know,

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Speaker 2: I'll be anybody's canary in the canary in the coal mine.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in. Mark Dominic course, he was a he's

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Speaker 2: a former general manager of the Tampa Buccaneers. He worked

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Speaker 2: what's your reaction to the Giants thumping the Eagles last night?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Thumping's right. Dan's never been to Chipotle. I mean,

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Speaker 13: This is what's gonna work. And just to concern that

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Speaker 13: You could tell how important it's been to have Jackson

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Speaker 2: Does it does it last right? Like the new guy?

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Speaker 13: takes hits, but can keep his feet moving and keep

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Speaker 13: moving forward and not fall down easily. And I think

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Speaker 13: that's that's that hidden thing functional football strength. You know,

438
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Speaker 13: we can talk about the weight room in the two

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Speaker 13: twenty five and how many reps a player did, but

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Speaker 13: then there's another thing to watch as you think about

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Speaker 13: functional football strength, and that works for every position in

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Speaker 13: the NFL, but for running back it shows it pretty good.

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Speaker 13: It's the guy that you know falls forward or you know,

444
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Speaker 13: bounces off one little tackle to be able to get

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Speaker 13: four or five more yards in a carry. I know

446
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Speaker 13: he was a couple of yards short of one hundred,

447
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Speaker 13: but I mean, right now, he's averaging over four yards

448
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Speaker 13: of carry in the NFL, and the way he runs

449
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Speaker 13: gets me pretty excited about just how fucking physically he

450
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Speaker 13: is and just that he turns the ball up field.

451
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Speaker 13: He's not looking to dance around. But he also catches

452
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Speaker 13: the ball really well out of the backfield. So I

453
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Speaker 13: think this is a nice fine for the Giants. You know,

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Speaker 13: you feel like this would have been a Shanahan find

455
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Speaker 13: based off of how good he's been able to do

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Speaker 13: and find running backs over his career. But this one's

457
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Speaker 13: won for the Giants, and it's a good feather in

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Speaker 13: the cap because I think he's the real deal.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with Eagles.

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Speaker 13: I think there's a lot of individuals going on right now.

461
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Speaker 13: I don't think it's sakuon Barkley. I think Jalen Hurts,

462
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Speaker 13: this is playing marginal. I feel like the offensive line

463
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Speaker 13: isn't holding up as well as they did last year.

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Speaker 13: I feel like they're missing a lot of players on defense,

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Speaker 13: the secondary. I know Ringo had you know, good moments

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Speaker 13: and tough moments last night, but he's getting good reps

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Speaker 13: as a second year first team to start. I think

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Speaker 13: that's big for Ringo, but I think they missed some

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Speaker 13: of the veterans that they had out there, and I

470
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Speaker 13: think some of the younger guys, whether it's Jalox Hunt

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Speaker 13: or something like that, who's just not able to get

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Speaker 13: home right now. I think that's the big thing. They're

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Speaker 13: not getting enough pressure on the quarterback consistently. And to me,

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Speaker 13: that's the big difference of the Eagles this year is

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Speaker 13: that they're just not able to do that. And because

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Speaker 13: of that, drives are extended, drives are taking longer, as

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Speaker 13: you know, and I think that's a big piece of

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Speaker 13: what's kind of wearing them down a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 13: this is a team that, yeah, you know, they're leading.

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Speaker 13: I think pass rusher are both their defensive tackles. That's

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Speaker 13: that's the problem with the Eagles right now, is they're

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Speaker 13: not getting pressure off the edge.

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Speaker 2: Is that a Is that a talent thing or is

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Speaker 2: it an experienced thing.

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Speaker 13: I think it's an experience thing. And I say that

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Speaker 13: because I do think Jalox Hunt is going to continue

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Speaker 13: to get better as we watch him, you know, miss

488
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Speaker 13: and Jalen Carter out there also is a huge piece.

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Speaker 13: And so him sitting on the sideline last night doesn't

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Speaker 13: help the Eagles front at all as well. But I

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Speaker 13: do think it's Jalx Hunt's going to be a big

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Speaker 13: piece of what they've got to do and get him

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Speaker 13: confidence and he's I think they're going to come in

494
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Speaker 13: bunches when it comes. But right now he's just been

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Speaker 13: rushing hard, but he's not getting all the way home.

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Speaker 13: I think he will, but I think it also means

497
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Speaker 13: to get Jalen Carter out there to help, you know,

498
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Speaker 13: take some pressure off it and let him have more

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Speaker 13: one of those more of those one on one.

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Speaker 2: Rushes Doug Gottlieb show. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark

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Speaker 2: Domini's our guest course, former Genlem manager Tampay Buccaneers joins

502
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Speaker 2: us every week and gives us a real GM front

503
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Speaker 2: office scouting perspective on the National Football League. What was

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Speaker 2: your reaction Joe Flacco, who was demoted to being a

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Speaker 2: backup after Dylan Gabriel got the start last week getting

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Speaker 2: a mid season trade in Division in Ohio to the Bengals.

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Speaker 13: You know, as soon as when the Bengals lost this

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Speaker 13: last game, I thought, there's just no way the Brown

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Speaker 13: family is going to sit there and throw number one.

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Speaker 13: They're frugal and rightfully so however they want to handle

511
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Speaker 13: their business, they can handle their business. But they spent

512
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Speaker 13: so much money in this off season. I knew that

513
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Speaker 13: the Brown family isn't just going to sit on their

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Speaker 13: hands and go, well, we'll just see what happens in

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty six, not with this roster, not with you know,

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Speaker 13: Trey Hendrickson possibly or probably leaving. They need to put

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Speaker 13: something together, and they look at this division and they're going,

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Speaker 13: wait a second, the Ravens are struggling. Yeah, Pittsburgh's had

519
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Speaker 13: a good start in Cleveland struggling. We can still get

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Speaker 13: in this thing, and we can still get the nine

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Speaker 13: wins and possibly ten wins, and so what do we do? See?

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Speaker 13: You know, I thought you got to call Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 13: or Atlanta. I think you could call Davis Mills. I

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Speaker 13: was thinking about him a little bit that I still

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Speaker 13: think there's some potential with him. But you know, it

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Speaker 13: was Eus wh Joe Flackle got bench like you just

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Speaker 13: go with the older veteran quarterback who is going to

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Speaker 13: come in, learn the playbook quickly and be able to

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Speaker 13: go out there and execute. And so I think it

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Speaker 13: was the right movement. I think it was the right

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Speaker 13: move for both clubs. Look, the Cleveland Browns is now

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Speaker 13: traded away Kenny Pickett and Joe Flackell, so good for them.

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Speaker 13: They're getting some collateral even though they're putting quarterbacks in

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Speaker 13: other people's divisions.

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Speaker 2: That said, Chador is going to be the backup. So

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Speaker 2: you have a rookie starter and a rookie backup. How

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Speaker 2: much leash do you give Dylan Gabriel when you got

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Speaker 2: a rookie behind him?

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Speaker 13: I think a lot, right, Doug. I think you really

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Speaker 13: let Gabriel kind of see how well he can go.

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Speaker 13: And I think that's for weeks. Even if he goes,

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Speaker 13: you know, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, you don't pull the

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Speaker 13: trigger too quick. They both hopefully will get real time

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Speaker 13: this year to kind of get a sense of are

545
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Speaker 13: they ones or twos or threes? And I think that

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Speaker 13: still can happen. But right now, I give him a

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Speaker 13: longer leash, like at least a month of games to

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Speaker 13: say what can he do? Because you know, they drafted

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Speaker 13: him before Shauduer for a reason, and they feel like,

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Speaker 13: you know, he's got the potential, and they certainly spoke

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Speaker 13: well of him in terms of his locker room presence

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Speaker 13: and what the team responds to him. So they've said

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Speaker 13: the right things to say. Look, they want to give

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Speaker 13: this guy longer lease, so I would expect that, and

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Speaker 13: if he goes zero to two, I think he's got

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Speaker 13: a chance to go three to four before I think

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Speaker 13: they make a move.

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Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens are struggling. Lamar Jackson still looks like

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Speaker 2: he's out. They do have a bye week coming up.

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Speaker 2: When is the moment that they waive We know about

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Speaker 2: the division, right, that division can be had. But they

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Speaker 2: got the Rams, Okay, then bye week, then Bears, then

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Speaker 2: they go. Then they got three games in a row

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Speaker 2: on the road, granted not three great teams Dolphins, Vikings, Browns.

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Speaker 2: When is the point that the Ravens go, yeah, this

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Speaker 2: might not be our year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think there's a good chance to go

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Speaker 13: one in five to start the year. Which is crazy

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Speaker 13: that you would think that the Baltimore Ravens When I

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Speaker 13: thought they those are the Buffalo Bills, I thought would

572
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Speaker 13: be the team that would be hosting the Lamar Hunt Trophy.

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Speaker 13: But you know, we're sitting here and I think they

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Speaker 13: lose to the Rams this week. But I do agree.

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Speaker 13: I think one bye week, a self scouting harbor, Lamar

576
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Speaker 13: Jackson should be back. But when you look at it,

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Speaker 13: one in five, but it goes Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots.

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Speaker 13: I mean, you could make an argument that they could

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Speaker 13: win every one of those games. Now the way they're playing,

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Speaker 13: they probably wouldn't, but they've lost to Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City,

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Speaker 13: and then lost to Houston without Lamar Jackson, so it's

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Speaker 13: not like they're losing to bad teams. The only smothered

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Speaker 13: to Cleveland Brown. So I think this team just needs

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Speaker 13: to get to the bye week. But I think they're

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Speaker 13: going to rattle off a bunch of victories and put

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Speaker 13: themselves back in the postseason. So I would still say

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Speaker 13: I think they're Ravens to make the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, what was New England's win more about New

589
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Speaker 2: England or about Buffalo?

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Speaker 13: I thought it was more about New England. I think

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Speaker 13: it was a huge culture movement that's going on there

592
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Speaker 13: and to be able to win that game, it just

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Speaker 13: goes again to show what you know coach has been

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Speaker 13: able to do. If you know, coach Rabel's been able

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Speaker 13: to do with maybe less talent. He did it where

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Speaker 13: I live here in Nashville for years, and I think

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Speaker 13: a lot of people are like, ah, he's not that

598
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Speaker 13: good of a coach, and then they pull them away

599
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Speaker 13: and suddenly you know Titans can't get out of their

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Speaker 13: own shadow. And you know the GM that was with him,

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Speaker 13: John Robinson, great guy, but there wasn't There were some

602
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Speaker 13: misses in the draft. Picks and first rounders didn't come through,

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Speaker 13: even for coach Rabel here in Nashville. And so I

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Speaker 13: think he's just showing that I can build a winning

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Speaker 13: tradition of winning culture. That was a huge win for

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Speaker 13: the New England Patriots, just to kind of build a

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Speaker 13: morale within the organization. And again, this is a team

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Speaker 13: I didn't think it was going to be good enough.

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Speaker 13: I know a lot of people have them as like

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Speaker 13: the turnaround team of twenty twenty five. But you start

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Speaker 13: to look at their schedule too, Saints Titans, Brown's next

612
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Speaker 13: three weeks, they couldn't really do some damage right now.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Kansas City looked better big game against Detroit, coming

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Speaker 2: in over seven yards of play. Where are you on

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Speaker 2: on Kansas City and if they're if I mean, I

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Speaker 2: look that you lose to Jacksonville. I think Jackson's pretty good,

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Speaker 2: but I did think the offense woke up last week.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, the the defense of Chris Jones

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Speaker 2: not getting not getting Trevor Lawrence down has been a

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Speaker 2: big kind of controversy in Kansas City. Where are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on Kansas City welcoming in the Lions.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I love the Chiefs, but I just

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Speaker 13: think Detroit off the edge is going to be too

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Speaker 13: much trouble for him, and I think the offensive line

625
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Speaker 13: for the Chiefs is going to show up a little

626
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Speaker 13: bit more this week where it's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 13: So I like Detroit in this game, even though it's

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Speaker 13: hard to imagine the Chiefs being two and four. But

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Speaker 13: I just feel like the Chiefs are a good football

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Speaker 13: team that will again, I think, find their way to

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Speaker 13: the postseason. I still don't think they're going to win

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Speaker 13: their division for the first time in forever, it feels like,

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Speaker 13: but I think the Detroit defensively is going to be

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Speaker 13: too much for Kansas City offensively, and I think because

635
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Speaker 13: of that, and again, when you look at the Kansas

636
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Speaker 13: City defense. The one thing you want to see is

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Speaker 13: more speed, and they don't have a ton of speed

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Speaker 13: on the Kansaity defense. They're technically sound that they're not fast.

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Speaker 13: They're more physical, and I think Detroit has a fairly

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Speaker 13: fast team, so I think both sides kind of match

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Speaker 13: up for Detroit. So I like Detroit. This game.

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. As always, Mark, have a great weekend. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you next week. Always love your insight, Doug.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on. Enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if I'll try the new chimney cherry sauce, Doug.

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Speaker 11: You know I like things plain, but uh yeah, if

647
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Speaker 11: I do go to Chipotle, I'll uh definitely try to

648
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Speaker 11: get some chicken and rice back to you.

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Speaker 2: There you go, chicken, rice and all things. That's all.

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Speaker 2: That's all Hayes gets. My son Hayes, he does the

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Speaker 2: He just has a bowl with chicken and.

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Speaker 12: Rice, cheese, dam no, no, definitely no peppers. No, not

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Speaker 12: gonna have I do everything everything, corn, cheese, sour cream, lettuce,

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Speaker 12: all of it.

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Speaker 3: Is it straight corner? Do they put the peppers in

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Speaker 3: the car. It's just white corn.

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Speaker 2: It's been Yeah, they put a little they put a

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Speaker 2: little something.

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Speaker 3: A little not the peppertty good.

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Speaker 2: Season, a little little seasoning in there. Yeah, a little

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Speaker 2: something something. That's what That's exactly what it is. Yes,

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Speaker 2: us thinking I'm thinking too much, but I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about like the change from when we were kids, right,

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Speaker 2: and when we were kids, it was like McDonald's was

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Speaker 2: the ultimate prize, right and treat and McDonald's fries still

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Speaker 2: the goat. But yeah, I mean, I would say that

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Speaker 2: Dan is in a small percentile of people that have

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Speaker 2: not tried Chipotle and Mark Dominic obviously trying to get that.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to get that free Chipotle card, you know

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Speaker 2: that celebs get who's not trying to get that.

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Speaker 2: Dan Bayer. Let's get to a game.

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Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 8: Hello, I owe you Dan, Hello Doug. The game today

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Speaker 8: on this Friday is I got DIBs. All right, four

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Speaker 8: topics for all of us to jump in and take.

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Speaker 8: What is ours first topic up for grabs? Your favorite

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Speaker 8: college football matchup this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Go hey, god dabs all right?

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Speaker 2: Indiana Organ, Indiana Organ Right, Indiana has I mean, they

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Speaker 2: have taken the Big Ten short of by storm, but

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Speaker 2: they've done it in all honesty with uneasier schedule than

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Speaker 2: other Big ten, other SEC schools. Now, you go to

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Speaker 2: Oregon on the road. Everybody respects Organ. Everybody thinks they

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Speaker 2: got national championship talent. I don't think they have to

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Speaker 2: win the game to stay in the conversation, but you

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Speaker 2: better be really really competitive, especially as much ish as

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Speaker 2: their talk, their coach has talked. I think that one's

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Speaker 2: that one's fun, really fun.

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Speaker 12: I got DIBs on number fifteen Michigan going to USC.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a fascinating matchup. The Trojans are a

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Speaker 3: slight favorite.

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Speaker 12: We'll see if Sharon Moore's guys can get it done

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Speaker 12: on the road, because they already went to Oklahoma, couldn't

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Speaker 12: get it done.

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Speaker 3: See if they get done in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 11: I got DIBs on the Buck guys in fighting a

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Speaker 11: line I in Champagne. You guys want to know what

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Speaker 11: today is, Yeah, the twenty seventh anniversary of me going

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Speaker 11: to the Ohio State Illinois game in Champagne. I went

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Speaker 11: nineteen ninety eight, drove down with my buddy Marcus and

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Speaker 11: was shocked that, Doug, you know this. The basketball arena

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Speaker 11: was like across the street from farms. It's a lot

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Speaker 11: of where their egg stuff was. But I'd never been

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Speaker 11: to Champagne before. But twenty seven years ago today, October tenth,

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Speaker 11: nineteen ninety eight, I watched the Buck guys were out

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Speaker 11: the Aliini. So I'm looking forward to that matchup tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's awesome. I got DIBs on something that none

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Speaker 4: of the three of you had the balls to talk about,

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Speaker 4: and that's the sec Number eight Alabama travels to number

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Speaker 4: fourteen Missouri. Why am I most excited about that. After

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Speaker 4: keeping Vanderbilt's Diego Pavia in check, why backer Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 4: and the Crimson Tide defensive front turn its attention to

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Speaker 4: bo brabula.

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Speaker 11: Bo prebula pribula. By the way, there's really good games

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Speaker 11: this weekend. Georgia and Auburn renew their rivalry, Wisconsin wearing

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Speaker 11: the throwbacks against Iowa, and of course in Dallas, Texas

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Speaker 11: in Oklahoma. Moving on to question number two. NFL team

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Speaker 11: on upset watch this weekend? Who needs to be on

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Speaker 11: upset alert?

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Speaker 3: Go?

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Speaker 4: I think the question should be who's not on an upside?

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Speaker 11: Who's on upset alert this weekend? I got dibbs on

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Speaker 11: ready for this. The Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin's fourteen and

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Speaker 11: four off of a bye. He's never lost to Cleveland

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Speaker 11: at home in Pittsburgh in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: What are you calling your shot?

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Speaker 11: The Browns are coming back from a trip to London.

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Speaker 11: The Steelers again have a bye. They were rested after

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Speaker 11: their trip to Ireland. But I'm going to say the

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Speaker 11: Steelers are an upset watch this weekend, even with Dylan

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Speaker 11: Gabriel making a second career start.

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Speaker 2: My god, dabs on the Seattle Seahawks, and I'm only

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Speaker 2: saying it's upset alert because they're actually favored in Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: against the Jaguars. I was stunned to see this line.

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Speaker 2: What do I not know, Dan Byer, who's not playing

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Speaker 2: for Jackson.

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Speaker 11: Well, I thought Jacksonville was actually the early favor and

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Speaker 11: I thought that the line ended up moving to Seattle.

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Speaker 11: Maybe the short week with the Jaguars playing the game

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Speaker 11: against the Chiefs. It's a long trip for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 11: They had their hands full with the Buccaneers. But maybe

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Speaker 11: maybe a little bit more trust in Seattle's defense despite

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Speaker 11: the injuries that they have. That could be a reason why.

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Speaker 4: I got divs on a team that Dan Bayer has

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Speaker 4: chosen to win the Super Bowl. I have a feeling

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Speaker 4: that Jets are going to take those seven and a

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Speaker 4: half points and say we don't need them. We don't

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Speaker 4: need the points. Jets up sith the Broncos in the Sunday.

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Speaker 11: What about if they played in London on Sunday? Would

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Speaker 11: that change your mind on any.

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Speaker 4: No, They're gonna they picked the stadium up and they

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Speaker 4: put it in London. In London, they pick up the

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Speaker 4: entire medal lands and they put it in London. And yes,

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Speaker 4: they found Jimmy Hoffa's body.

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Speaker 12: All right, I got DIBs on the Chargers going cross

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Speaker 12: country Tree to Miami.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know who knows cross country trade for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Were all banged up. Chargers are all banged up.

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Speaker 3: Back to back weeks or two out of the last three.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: really good pick.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised Jay Student picked that. And that is

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Speaker 2: game time Stut Gottleep Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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