Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Mark Mos Show,
Speaker 1: where of course we talk about each and every week
Speaker 1: the decentralized Revolution, talking about the way the world is
Speaker 1: changing right before our very eyes, from a world of centralization,
Speaker 1: central planning, to a world of decentralization, deglobalization, and more
Speaker 1: independent individualism, which is a good thing in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Why is that a good thing? Let's talk about that
Speaker 1: for a second. So there is no such thing as utopia.
Speaker 1: And the reason why there's no such thing as utopia
Speaker 1: is because your version of utopia is different than my
Speaker 1: version of utopia. And so I could create the perfect
Speaker 1: world for me, but it might not be the perfect
Speaker 1: world for you. And it's very difficult for somebody to
Speaker 1: make those decisions for you. You don't like it. That's not
Speaker 1: how human nature works. I get good ideas all the
Speaker 1: time to people, but they don't think they're good ideas,
Speaker 1: or they're not motivated by those good ideas. And so
Speaker 1: in a world of central plan in a world of globalism,
Speaker 1: we have somebody all the way across the country, like
Speaker 1: in the United States, we have a president making decisions
Speaker 1: for three hundred and thirty million people as if they
Speaker 1: have enough information for that, or you know, in this
Speaker 1: new world of globalism, we have klau Schwab trying to
Speaker 1: make decisions for eight billion people that he neither knows
Speaker 1: nor it appears likes, and so of course that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And so the way that we have a much better
Speaker 1: world is in a world where we are able to
Speaker 1: choose the direction of our lives. We're able to direct
Speaker 1: our lives in a way that we see fit. And
Speaker 1: so in order to do that, we need more individualism.
Speaker 1: We need to be able to control that as opposed
Speaker 1: to somebody else making those decisions for us. But also
Speaker 1: the reason why it's even more important than just for
Speaker 1: our own happiness is the reason that this is more
Speaker 1: important than our own happiness because it's how the world
Speaker 1: will have progress. So what happens is as we become
Speaker 1: more individuals, we have more specialization. So in the old days,
Speaker 1: you have to make your own cale, grow your own food,
Speaker 1: build your own house, you get to do everything, and
Speaker 1: of course most of the time was spent just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get food. But in a
Speaker 1: world of specialization, somebody else can grow the food, somebody
Speaker 1: else can make the clothes, somebody else can build a house,
Speaker 1: and we can trade, and that's allowed for us to
Speaker 1: build all types of new things and have all new
Speaker 1: types of disciplines and science and medicine and technology and
Speaker 1: all these different things. And so without that, without specialization,
Speaker 1: we can't do that. But even more importantly, the reason
Speaker 1: why individual is really important is because with each of
Speaker 1: us being different, we all look at the world differently.
Speaker 1: So I might see a problem that you don't see,
Speaker 1: and so I can go solve that. Now, just because
Speaker 1: you don't see it doesn't mean it's not real, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that hundreds of millions or billions of people don't
Speaker 1: suffer from that. It's just that's not what you're focused on.
Speaker 1: That's okay. So I see it, or somebody else sees it,
Speaker 1: or maybe we see the same problem, but we have
Speaker 1: different ideas of how to solve it, and then we
Speaker 1: can compete in the market with our ideas and we
Speaker 1: can try different attempts to solve these problems and see
Speaker 1: which ones are better or worse. And that's why individual
Speaker 1: is so important. When you go into countries like you know,
Speaker 1: North Korea or China that are communists and they try
Speaker 1: they really have this collectivist mindset where everybody's basically like
Speaker 1: an automaton, like a robot. Well, they don't have the creativity.
Speaker 1: Without the creativity, they're not solving as many problems, they're
Speaker 1: not coming up with as many solutions. There's no free
Speaker 1: market of ideas, and so growth really grinds to a halt.
Speaker 1: And so that's one reason why it's so important to me.
Speaker 1: And of course as we move through this world of centralization,
Speaker 1: global planning, globalism to decentralization is always the technology that
Speaker 1: changes the world. It's what changes the way that we work,
Speaker 1: we communicate, we organize, and we have a new technology
Speaker 1: that is doing just that. It's a brand new technologist.
Speaker 1: Technological revolution is decentralization. We sort of we all of
Speaker 1: a sudden have a new piece of technology. It's a
Speaker 1: new building block that allows us to have this decentralization
Speaker 1: and that's driving the world. Of course, that technology is bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Bitcoin is the technological revolution. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, well, cryptocurrencies are well, cryptocurrencies are
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be. Decentralized. It's decentralization that is
Speaker 1: the revolution. And we can have another debate over which
Speaker 1: cryptocurrencies are the most organized, sorry, are the most decentralized.
Speaker 1: We can have that debate at another time. Of course,
Speaker 1: I've discussed it many times, but bitcoin is the revolution.
Speaker 1: That's what created that decentralization. And the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: saying all that is because I just got back from
Speaker 1: seven or eight days, I don't know, a week in Miami,
Speaker 1: Florida for the largest bitcoin cryptocurrency conference in the world,
Speaker 1: and that is the Bitcoin Conference that goes to Miami
Speaker 1: every single year. Well it's been in Miami the last
Speaker 1: couple years. Next year it's going to be in Nashville,
Speaker 1: And so I want to talk about what was going
Speaker 1: on at the Bitcoin conference. If you weren't able to
Speaker 1: get there, or even if you, I'll still give you
Speaker 1: a different perspective on that. So I want to talk
Speaker 1: about what happened at the conference, what it was like
Speaker 1: to be there, what I was doing when I was there,
Speaker 1: what talks I gave, who I was with, what events
Speaker 1: I went to, so you can understand. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about some really, really really interesting people that I
Speaker 1: met there, who they were, what they're doing. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, some of the most interesting
Speaker 1: stuff I saw there, some founders there, some investment opportunities
Speaker 1: I found there, you know, like I said, the work
Speaker 1: that I got done there, and so much more. There's
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Three presidential candidates were there, I'm amazing,
Speaker 1: some famous authors, and so much more. It was the
Speaker 1: event to be at. If you care about freedom, if
Speaker 1: you care about preserving your rights, your human rights, then
Speaker 1: this is an event that you should care about. Even
Speaker 1: if you don't care about bitcoin the technology, you should
Speaker 1: still care about this movement because at the end of
Speaker 1: that's what it stands for. Freedom and the reason why
Speaker 1: the bitcoin movement is so different than a cryptocurrency movement.
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time, and you hear
Speaker 1: people say bitcoin not crypto, not that bitcoin isn't a cryptocurrency,
Speaker 1: but it's because the bitcoin movement is different than the
Speaker 1: crypto movement. Most people in the cryptocurrency space are trying
Speaker 1: to make more money. You don't understand this isn't a scam.
Speaker 1: Look how much money I've made well in the cryptocurrency space.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get more dollars. In the bitcoin space,
Speaker 1: they're trying to create more freedom. And one of the
Speaker 1: biggest ways that you can see this is at the
Speaker 1: Bitcoin Conference. I'm not sure what the attendance was this year.
Speaker 1: Fifteen to twenty thousand people were there at the conference,
Speaker 1: and I was there. There was a couple of days
Speaker 1: of events before it's kind of turned into this whole
Speaker 1: week thing. There was two days events before it's called
Speaker 1: the thank God for Bitcoin event, which is pretty cool,
Speaker 1: and then rolling right into the Bitcoin Conference. And I
Speaker 1: don't think one single time did I hear anybody talk
Speaker 1: about the US dollar valuation of bitcoin. Nobody cares about that. Instead,
Speaker 1: we talked about things like human rights. We've talked about
Speaker 1: things like your political freedom. We talked about poverty in
Speaker 1: the world and how we can solve that. We talked
Speaker 1: about high value things that only come once you've made
Speaker 1: that mind shift change, and so only when you get
Speaker 1: to that can you start to think about those things.
Speaker 1: And like I said, mostly in the crypto space, it's
Speaker 1: about how do we make more money? How do I
Speaker 1: get more of these Fiat dollars, And that's not what
Speaker 1: we're doing. The other thing that's just amazing about the
Speaker 1: event is because everybody's coming on those ideals, they're coming
Speaker 1: to figure out how we can solve those things. World poverty,
Speaker 1: world hunger. Like I said, preserving human rights, all those things. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: what I think it comes down to is humanity, prosperity
Speaker 1: of humanity and human rights and if I summed it up, freedom.
Speaker 1: And the reason why this important understand is because what
Speaker 1: you hear from mainstream media is a lot of divisive
Speaker 1: identity politics. It's all over the news today. I mean
Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary koreenen Pierre constantly talks about this.
Speaker 1: It's all over the news constantly. It's shoved down your
Speaker 1: face constantly. You know, women and white people and black
Speaker 1: people and minorities and gay people and trans people and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. We don't care about that. That's not
Speaker 1: how we organize. We organize based off of values. And
Speaker 1: so when you go to the Bigcoin conference, everybody's there
Speaker 1: has come on values like freedom, which is the highest value. Now,
Speaker 1: there was all types of races and genders, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there was all types of preferences all that was there,
Speaker 1: but they didn't organize based off that. They organized off
Speaker 1: of values. And the reason why that's important is because
Speaker 1: you could feel this electricity in the air of all
Speaker 1: the people that have aligned have organized themselves stuff of
Speaker 1: values and the highest level values. If you're just tuning in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Mos Show talking about the
Speaker 1: decentralized Revolution. I gotta take a quick break and I
Speaker 1: want to be right back, so don't go away. I'll
Speaker 1: bear back, all right, welcome back. If you just tune in,
Speaker 1: you are listening to the Mark Maas Show, And like always,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the decentralized revolution. And you know, we
Speaker 1: look at it through the lenses of politics, finance, and technology,
Speaker 1: and of course it's technology that drives the world the most.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about today because the groundbreaking
Speaker 1: the technological revolution not just in new technology. The revolution
Speaker 1: is decentralization, decentralized technology, and of course that is in bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of people think that bitcoin is just money,
Speaker 1: and it is money, but it's also more than that.
Speaker 1: So you have Bitcoin the network, which is the network
Speaker 1: of computers that are all around the world and the
Speaker 1: nodes that run the top copies of the database, and
Speaker 1: then you have Bitcoin, the asset that moves on top
Speaker 1: of the network. But there's lots of other use cases
Speaker 1: for the network. Imagine having a borderless, permissionless, decentralized immutable,
Speaker 1: censorship resistant computer network. What else could that be used
Speaker 1: for besides money, Well, it turns out lots of things
Speaker 1: in a world where we need where well we don't
Speaker 1: need in a world where we're having more censorship than
Speaker 1: ever before, when we're seeing more fraud because of changing
Speaker 1: systems than ever before, we're seeing more exclusion because of
Speaker 1: the permissions that are being required everywhere. In a world
Speaker 1: where that's happening, then we need a solution to that.
Speaker 1: So we would need something that's permissionless to join. We
Speaker 1: need something that's immutable so it can't be changed. We
Speaker 1: need something that's censorship resistant so we can't be censored.
Speaker 1: And so as these big problems are coming up all
Speaker 1: over the world, we need a solution and that's what bitcoined,
Speaker 1: the network and yes, Bitcoin the asset, are providing. Let
Speaker 1: me just give you an example real quick, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk more about exactly what happened over
Speaker 1: the last week. But an example that of a new
Speaker 1: development that we're having on top of the Bitcoin network.
Speaker 1: So again, we have permission, so like for example, I
Speaker 1: need permission from a government to bring certain goods into
Speaker 1: the country because of misinformation and malinformation and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: We're having censorship. We're censoring communication. You can't say that,
Speaker 1: you can't transmit that message. We're having censorship of books
Speaker 1: and material. And this is only rising, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a worse problem. So for decades, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure longer, I mean probably thousands of years, you've had persecution.
Speaker 1: You've had governments blocking the Bible from being brought into
Speaker 1: the country. As as long as I've been paying attention
Speaker 1: for decades and decades, I've seen people risking their lives
Speaker 1: literally to smuggle a copy of a Bible into a
Speaker 1: country like North Korea, China, something like that. Wherever they're
Speaker 1: doing it, they have to smuggle in because they don't
Speaker 1: have permission to bring that in. They're being censored, they
Speaker 1: can't share that information, and it's and they're being destroyed.
Speaker 1: It's not immutable. And now bitcoin has solved that problem.
Speaker 1: So now bitcoin the network, not bitcoin the asset as money,
Speaker 1: but Bitcoin the network allows and we have it now.
Speaker 1: We talked about this on a previous show, that the
Speaker 1: entire King James Bible has now been put onto the
Speaker 1: Bitcoin blockchain, and nobody, no government, nobody in the world
Speaker 1: can take it down. It's immutable, can't be taken down.
Speaker 1: And if I want to send that Bible across the
Speaker 1: bitcoin network to somebody in North Korea, China, et cetera,
Speaker 1: nobody can stop it, block it, or prevent it. This
Speaker 1: protects and preserves human rights. Now you might say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't read the Bible, the Bible stupid or whatever. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: well what would you think that we might need to
Speaker 1: do that? So, for example, what about three D gun schematics?
Speaker 1: Fill in the blank. I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 1: and run through everything that you think that could have
Speaker 1: value on there, but you're starting to see the situation. Obviously,
Speaker 1: money is the first killer application of that. The lady
Speaker 1: that cuts my hair, she's from Afghanistan, and as you
Speaker 1: might recall, the US abandoned Afghanistan. We ran with our
Speaker 1: tail tuck between our legs, and the tally Ban took over,
Speaker 1: and they took over a lot of things, including the
Speaker 1: banking system. And she was telling me when I was
Speaker 1: getting my haircut, I'd love to send some money back
Speaker 1: to these women I know in Afghanistan, but I can't
Speaker 1: send it because the Taliban will just take it. Well,
Speaker 1: she can send it over bitcoin. The Taliban cannot take
Speaker 1: it that way. You're starting to see that. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: jump into some of the recap from the conference. It
Speaker 1: was an amazing time, lots of things. So it was
Speaker 1: a really busy week for me, more busy than normal.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna be hearing more about that because I
Speaker 1: decided to do a lot of work when I was there,
Speaker 1: and so I had access to a lot of very
Speaker 1: well known people, some amazing thinkers, and I got to
Speaker 1: sit down and record a lot of content. So a
Speaker 1: lot of the content that I recorded with them will
Speaker 1: be releasing that. I gave a lot of interviews when
Speaker 1: I was there. I was on two different panels. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, we did a pre event for two
Speaker 1: days and like I said earlier, was called thank God
Speaker 1: for Bitcoin, and it actually was started off of a
Speaker 1: book titled thank God for Bitcoin. I would highly recommend
Speaker 1: reading that book. If you haven't already shout out to
Speaker 1: that book, go to Amazon, order it, get it on
Speaker 1: Amazon Audible. I think it's like a four hour listen
Speaker 1: or read if you want to do that, I would
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. Even if you don't like the title.
Speaker 1: It's still worth reading. As a matter of fact, it's
Speaker 1: probably the most purchased and given away book that I've done.
Speaker 1: I bought a bunch of copies and gave them a
Speaker 1: way because it's an amazing perspective on labor, on work,
Speaker 1: on money, on savings, and lots of things like that.
Speaker 1: So they had an event. Now the book has done
Speaker 1: so well that they've actually launched their own event. And
Speaker 1: it was a great event for a bunch of reasons.
Speaker 1: One of them is just because, like I said, it
Speaker 1: gave us this new perspective and allowed us to talk
Speaker 1: about bitcoin in ways and just from different perspectives that
Speaker 1: I had never thought of before. And it brought people
Speaker 1: who were from different religions or no religion at all.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really all about that, like I said, And
Speaker 1: so anyway started out that event. I thought that was
Speaker 1: really really cool, brought in some really cool speakers at
Speaker 1: the main bitcoin event. I gave two talks there. One
Speaker 1: of them was on legacy systems and liberty. Legacy systems
Speaker 1: in Liberty, I was on the presentation with James Lavish.
Speaker 1: James Lavish, you might recognize that name. He's been on
Speaker 1: my show a couple times. He's also my partner in
Speaker 1: the Bitcoin Opportunity Fund, which is a new fund that
Speaker 1: we're launching to help people invest through the ecosystem. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, this bitcoin space is so much bigger
Speaker 1: than just money. It's now a network that allows to
Speaker 1: transfer information and so there's all types of investment opportunities
Speaker 1: through the entire eco system, not just buying the asset.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're working on with Bitcoin Opportunity Fund.
Speaker 1: If you'd like to find out more about that, you
Speaker 1: can go to Bitcoin Opportunity Dot Fund again, Bitcoin Opportunity
Speaker 1: Dot Fund. But anyway, I was on the panel with
Speaker 1: James Lavish and then I was also on the panel
Speaker 1: with Wolf von dee Laire, who is a PhD doctorate
Speaker 1: in economics in Austrian economics, and so we talked about
Speaker 1: legacy systems, We talked about liberty, and we really talked
Speaker 1: about how legacy systems are taking away our energy. Of course,
Speaker 1: if you're a regular listener, you know I talk about
Speaker 1: this all the time and the need to build up
Speaker 1: this parallel economy, and I talk about we want to
Speaker 1: build up a parallel econom we want to build a
Speaker 1: new system to disrupt the old legacy systems. Specifically, the
Speaker 1: main legacy systems are that I want to disrupt our media.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing my own media. I don't need
Speaker 1: to listen to CNN. You can listen to small people
Speaker 1: like me or the Joe Rogans, etc. So media, we
Speaker 1: want to disrupt media. We want to disrupt education. Legacy
Speaker 1: education is horrible. Mike Pompeo, ex Secretary of State, I believe,
Speaker 1: said that the most dangerous person in the entire world,
Speaker 1: in his opinion, is the head of the US Education Department.
Speaker 1: I forget her name off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: So we want to disrupt education. We want to disrupt health.
Speaker 1: No longer can we trust our doctors to do or
Speaker 1: give us information at our best interest. We can see
Speaker 1: how they were paid and bribed to now give us
Speaker 1: medication we didn't want. We want to disrupt finance and
Speaker 1: all those things. If you're just tuning in, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of going on a rant explaining what has been going
Speaker 1: on over the last week when I was at the
Speaker 1: largest bitcoin conference, probably the largest finance conference in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I got a whole lot more nuggets to
Speaker 1: talk about when I come back, and I take a
Speaker 1: quick break. You're listening to the Mark mass Show. I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about that, and I have an interview
Speaker 1: coming up with an MMA Champ. Don't go away, I'll
Speaker 1: be right back. Hi, Welcome back. If you're just tune in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Moss Show, and we're talking about,
Speaker 1: of course each and every week, decentralized revolution. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking about my week. I just got back from the largest,
Speaker 1: I believe the largest finance conference in the world, certainly
Speaker 1: the largest bitcoin crypto conference in the world, and that
Speaker 1: was the Bitcoin Conference that just happened in Miami last week.
Speaker 1: And so I was on a panel Legacy Systems and
Speaker 1: Liberty talking about how these legacy systems are taking away
Speaker 1: our liberty, how we can hope we can disrupt those.
Speaker 1: You can find all these talks on YouTube for free,
Speaker 1: so if you want to go check them out. I
Speaker 1: did another another presentation on the stage and it was
Speaker 1: called Steady Lads, and it was this was the highlight.
Speaker 1: This was on the main stage in front of the
Speaker 1: entire conference, and it was basically the macro picture outlooks.
Speaker 1: So what's going on with the globe, you know, with
Speaker 1: the global Macro American Macro, that's you know, finance, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And I did that with Lynn Alden, who I've referenced
Speaker 1: her work many times on this show, and Preston Pish
Speaker 1: and Dylan Leclair and Dylan's been on the show as well.
Speaker 1: And that was a hit. It might have been one
Speaker 1: of the most watched rewatched episode on YouTube, so you
Speaker 1: can check that out as well. Just go to the
Speaker 1: Bitcoin Magazine YouTube channel and you can find those. So
Speaker 1: we did that in front of the massive audience. Was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I got to go some really fun events,
Speaker 1: including the biggest Bitcoin Bowl in the world, and that's
Speaker 1: Michael Saylor. Michael Saylor is one of the biggest bitcoin
Speaker 1: holders that we know of. I'm sure there's bigger ones
Speaker 1: that we don't know of. I think he's up to
Speaker 1: like one hundred and forty thousand bitcoin at this point.
Speaker 1: I think it's something like he owns one out of
Speaker 1: every one hundred and fifty bitcoins or something like that.
Speaker 1: Michael Saylor went to his house, got to go on
Speaker 1: his yacht, a big old party on his yacht. And
Speaker 1: while I was at the party on his yacht, I
Speaker 1: met and got a chance to actually talk to for
Speaker 1: quite a while RFK Junior, who is a Democratic presidential
Speaker 1: candidate hoping to potentially unseat the incumbent president, President Biden.
Speaker 1: From that of course, RFK, I believe he's the nephew
Speaker 1: of John F. Kennedy. JFK one of our I think
Speaker 1: the last presidents who have gotten assassinated on the job.
Speaker 1: Of course, when he was hoping to get rid of
Speaker 1: the intelligence community and the Central Bank, he ended up dead.
Speaker 1: So did that. That was super fun. Some of the
Speaker 1: most amazing people I met besides RFK, which was really cool.
Speaker 1: I also met RFK is running for a left a
Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nomination, and I got to meet Vivik Ramaswami.
Speaker 1: He's running for a Republican so he's on the other
Speaker 1: side of now. Vivid Ramaswami. I've had him on my
Speaker 1: main YouTube channel. We recently did an interview, sit down
Speaker 1: interview with them, so you can check that out. Just
Speaker 1: search Mark Moss on YouTube and you can find that
Speaker 1: interview over there. Hopefully it's out already, but I got
Speaker 1: a chance to sit down and talk to him as well.
Speaker 1: That was really awesome. It was really awesome to see
Speaker 1: that we had presidential candidates from both sides of the aisle,
Speaker 1: proving that freedom is not political. Freedom is not some
Speaker 1: fringe right wing thing, it's just human freedom. And money
Speaker 1: should not be political either. Money is just money. It
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be left or right. And so seeing
Speaker 1: that we had somebody from both sides of the aisle there,
Speaker 1: Republican and a Democrat, really proves that out. One of
Speaker 1: my favorite people that I met there was Whitney Web.
Speaker 1: She is an amazing talent. She is a national treasure.
Speaker 1: We need to protect her. I've had her on my
Speaker 1: main YouTube channel. You should check out that interview Whitney Web.
Speaker 1: The interview has done amazing well. Just search Mark Moss
Speaker 1: Whitney Web. You can find that she was really cool
Speaker 1: to meet in person because she's very friendly. She's very
Speaker 1: nice in person, and she's even smarter in person when
Speaker 1: you just talk to her kind of on a friendly level.
Speaker 1: She's going to be providing more research, We're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about her stuff more and I'm going to
Speaker 1: have her back on the show as well. But you
Speaker 1: definitely if you haven't watched that interview, just searched Mark
Speaker 1: Moss Whitney Web. You need to find that you need
Speaker 1: to watch it, and then I would recommend that you
Speaker 1: go watch her other stuff as well. She is like
Speaker 1: a human computer. The ability to just remember every name.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Kenny Florian UFC legend, host of some other
Speaker 1: shows that he does as well. He's been on my
Speaker 1: show as well. Got to meet him in person for
Speaker 1: the first time. That was really cool. Luke we Are
Speaker 1: Change is a well known kind of investigative journalist. He
Speaker 1: was there, got to hang out with him and talk
Speaker 1: to him for a while. The amount of mind share
Speaker 1: in this space is just mind boggling. We had a
Speaker 1: Zulton Posar, formerly with Credit Suite, probably probably certainly arguably
Speaker 1: the most probably the most educated person in regards to
Speaker 1: the global financial system, how the plumbing works, how the
Speaker 1: Euro dollar banks and all that, all that works. Probably
Speaker 1: Sultan Parsar's is probably the premier expert in that. Like
Speaker 1: I said, this transcended just bitcoin as money. This is
Speaker 1: a movement and the people that were there shows this.
Speaker 1: We had someone on the left, a Democrat, we had
Speaker 1: someone on the right Republican, and we also had somebody
Speaker 1: in the middle of Tulsi Gabbard was there. She left
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party to go to the Independent Party. Man,
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I did a couple of interviews for
Speaker 1: some documentaries, a lot of people doing documentaries. Again, the
Speaker 1: mind share all of these people, politicians coming over, some
Speaker 1: of the smartest people in the world, like the Houltem pollsar.
Speaker 1: We have filmmakers coming They're making videos not just about
Speaker 1: the space specifically about what bitcoin is, but the movement,
Speaker 1: the push to freedom, the push to decentralization, all of
Speaker 1: those things. I was on Kitko, so they're one of
Speaker 1: the bigger, you know, kind of investment shows out there.
Speaker 1: You can search Mark Moss Kitko can find that. I
Speaker 1: got to meet some really cool founders and some new
Speaker 1: investment opportunities. One of which was probably the most impressive.
Speaker 1: It sounded like kind of like a trojan horse. So
Speaker 1: you might hear about bitcoin, and you hear about bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too deep into that, but
Speaker 1: mining is basically a computer that you hook onto a
Speaker 1: computer network permission list anyone's permission. You can buy the computer,
Speaker 1: plug it in, and you can start helping process transactions
Speaker 1: on the bitcoin network. In exchange for doing that, you
Speaker 1: earn rewards. That's about as deep as I'm going to go.
Speaker 1: So I buy the computer, I plug it in, I
Speaker 1: co connected to the internet. By helping process transactions, I
Speaker 1: earn money. Let's just call it that. And what we're
Speaker 1: seeing is, you know, in the United States, this has
Speaker 1: taken off Texas to become kind of the main hub
Speaker 1: for bitcoin mining. But I met a founder and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to talk about the whole company because it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of NBA. But what they're doing is
Speaker 1: there's devices in your home that use massive amounts of electricity,
Speaker 1: and you're already using those devices, and you're already buying
Speaker 1: the electricity. What they've done is figured out a way
Speaker 1: to put these bitcoin mining computers into your already existing
Speaker 1: electrical devices and you can earn money back. So, for example,
Speaker 1: I can buy a space heater for my bathroom and
Speaker 1: it's one hundred dollars and it's going to cost me,
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifty bucks a month to run. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much costs. And I have another space
Speaker 1: heater here too, and it's also one hundred dollars and
Speaker 1: it's also going to cost me fifty bucks a month
Speaker 1: to run, but it's going to give me back fifteen
Speaker 1: dollars a month in income both space heaters, refrigerators or
Speaker 1: washer dryers or air conditioning units, whatever, whatever device you
Speaker 1: have in your home that's using a large amount of electricity.
Speaker 1: It can run this and subsidize the cost. It can
Speaker 1: rebate me for the energy that I'm already buying. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not going to pay your bills, and you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get super rich off of this, but it can
Speaker 1: offset what you're already paying for electricity. Now, if I
Speaker 1: could reduce my electricity bill by twenty percent, I would
Speaker 1: certainly do that. I'm sure you would as well. And
Speaker 1: they're selling this not even as they don't even say
Speaker 1: anything about bitcoin. They don't say anything about bitcoin mining,
Speaker 1: they don't say anything like that. All they say is, hey,
Speaker 1: here's one device that it's going to cost you a lot
Speaker 1: of money to run, and here's another device that does
Speaker 1: the same thing, but you get twenty percent back on
Speaker 1: your bills. And a lot of people are going to
Speaker 1: do that. That's probably the most exciting thing that I saw
Speaker 1: that that was really really really cool. Yeah. Robert Kennedy,
Speaker 1: Toolsey Gabbard, Vivid Ramaswami, oh and the author of The
Speaker 1: Big Short Michael Lewis. If you haven't seen the movie
Speaker 1: The Big Short, you should. He wrote a book. The
Speaker 1: book is really good. The movie's good as well, talking
Speaker 1: about how the two thousand and eight Great Financial Crisis
Speaker 1: was created through the housing market. And now he's working
Speaker 1: on another book on the entire financial crisis and the
Speaker 1: FTX explosion in the cryptocurrency space and how bitcoin was
Speaker 1: involved and so so forth. That is going to be
Speaker 1: highly highly anticipated. I can't wait to see that. If
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark Maas
Speaker 1: Show talking about the largest revolution in the world. This
Speaker 1: is the technological revolution that's powered by bitcoin. And we
Speaker 1: just had the largest financial conference in the world that
Speaker 1: just happened last week. I was there and I was
Speaker 1: giving you the play by play of what happened. I'm
Speaker 1: going to take a quick break and when I come back,
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk with one of the UFC legends,
Speaker 1: reigning champ both in the UFC and now Bellator. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Chris Cyborg. She's a female MMA athlete. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk to her about what she's doing, what
Speaker 1: she thinks about bitcoin, and so much more. I'll be
Speaker 1: back with that you don't want to miss that. Be
Speaker 1: back with that in a minute. Don't go away, all right,
Speaker 1: welcome back. If you just tune in, you're listening to
Speaker 1: the Mark Mass Show. We're talking about the largest movement
Speaker 1: going on in the world right now, the largest finance conference.
Speaker 1: It just happened last week in Miami and I got
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Chris Cyborg. She is a
Speaker 1: female MMA athlete, UFC champion now Belltor champion, reigning champion.
Speaker 1: I believe let's jump in and listen to this interview
Speaker 1: with Chris. So Chris Cyborg champion, UFC fighter, Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Greenslane champion.
Speaker 3: I got in my career four different titles in different organizations.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I did it.
Speaker 3: I got a THEFC belt two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 2: But now I'm in BELLA champion.
Speaker 1: Okay, Bellatur Yes, okay, so you're the reigning Yes, the
Speaker 1: reigning champion.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Why are you at a bitcoin conference.
Speaker 3: I've been doing work in May for eighteen years, and
Speaker 3: I started learning and then get involved with a lot
Speaker 3: of companies, then work with bitcoin in cryptos, and I
Speaker 3: started learning. People say I got to the Orange Bill
Speaker 3: and then I'm addictive. You know, I'm starting learning, okay,
Speaker 3: and this is the third time I come to the conference.
Speaker 2: Oh it is, yes and happy.
Speaker 1: In regards to that. Like I've seen with Belatore and UFC,
Speaker 1: a lot of crypto has come in. But yeah, you're
Speaker 1: here at a bitcoin conference. So you said you've started
Speaker 1: to kind of educate and learn. Have you started to
Speaker 1: kind of like learn the difference of how bitcoin is
Speaker 1: different than most other cryptocurrencies.
Speaker 3: Yes, different, the crypto is no bitcoin. And now the
Speaker 3: first thing I've been learning and the reality because I
Speaker 3: started to learn about bitcoin because as I put the
Speaker 3: bitcoin in my website, I know I have a limitate bitcoin,
Speaker 3: like different than other cryptos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're accepting it on your own website, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: receive Where are you from. I'm from Brazil, Brazil, Okay.
Speaker 1: The Brazilian currency, the realite, has done pretty good. I
Speaker 1: mean it's held up with the dollar. Yes. Most of
Speaker 1: Latin America, most of Central South America, their currencies are
Speaker 1: just collapsing, yes, right, so then they have a hyper inflation.
Speaker 1: So then the price of their goods keeps going up
Speaker 1: so fast. So those people down there, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've you kind of grew up seeing that where it
Speaker 1: just gets harder and harder to live, gets more and
Speaker 1: more expensive.
Speaker 3: I started teaching my friends and my family about bitcoin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but then very afraid, you know, about crypto bitcoin, but
Speaker 3: because they don't understand much.
Speaker 1: So some of your friends, I mean that you that
Speaker 1: are afraid of it is that in Brazil.
Speaker 3: Some Americans too, like because they understand too much. I
Speaker 3: think it may be afraid not just about bitcoin. I
Speaker 3: think crypto anything you can lose money. But because the
Speaker 3: reality I explained it, you can control, you know, and
Speaker 3: then don't let somebody control for you. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: you have to start learning about and you do yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, because sometimes give somebody doing for you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, whether you learning yourself.
Speaker 1: I was thinking not so much again, not Brazil, because
Speaker 1: the currency has been good in Brazil, but in Peru
Speaker 1: or in Argentina, if I hold that currency, I lose
Speaker 1: all my money. Yes, So for if I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if I hold if I hold the you know, the
Speaker 1: Argentine peso or whatever, I'm going to lose my money.
Speaker 1: So I might as well go to bitcoin.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Whereas if you're in the in the dollar or the
Speaker 1: real then it's pretty good currency.
Speaker 3: And they're sendhim money because I send him into Brazil too.
Speaker 3: Is the way to send the money pay less fees, So.
Speaker 1: You've sent money to Brazil that way. Yes, Yes, Now,
Speaker 1: in order to kind of really understand bitcoin or to
Speaker 1: want to buy it and hold it, you kind of
Speaker 1: have to think long term, and so you know, I
Speaker 1: have to think, you know, the US dollar value of
Speaker 1: bitcoin could drop in the next thirty days or the
Speaker 1: next two months or six months, but in two years
Speaker 1: from now or three years from now, then it's most
Speaker 1: likely higher Bitcoin. There hasn't been a three year period
Speaker 1: where bitcoin's been down, So Bitcoin's volatile, goes up and down,
Speaker 1: but it over a three year period, it's always gone up.
Speaker 1: So if you can think long term, do fighters, do
Speaker 1: you find yourself thinking long term about your whole career
Speaker 1: or are you kind of typically thinking like short term,
Speaker 1: just to the next fight, just to the next fight.
Speaker 3: Now, I think for my future, I'm doing this eighteen years,
Speaker 3: like I said, like I want to completely maybe twenty
Speaker 3: years or to anyone. And one of the main vestors
Speaker 3: in bitcoin and real estate is a lot of different things,
Speaker 3: and I think it's very important you think about your future.
Speaker 3: And I'm teaching my adopted daughter about bitcoin because it's.
Speaker 2: Going to be the future. Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you come to these events, like what are
Speaker 1: you hoping to learn?
Speaker 3: I hope to learn in new things. You know, new
Speaker 3: womans today. I went to the conference. A lot of
Speaker 3: womens there. Didn't make me really happy and make a
Speaker 3: lot of people and anymore, you see, so new to
Speaker 3: for them too now because I came here three years
Speaker 3: ago too, and then then come twenty twenty one, so
Speaker 3: I'm not too late.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I came to learn and then started to learn it too.
Speaker 3: And you have to have courage. I saw the supergirls
Speaker 3: there and then we explained and then encourage you to screaming,
Speaker 3: they say, telling people what is be coin is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was really cool that the girls
Speaker 1: had that event.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's the second year that they've done that.
Speaker 1: You know, I hear from a lot of girls and
Speaker 1: they say that we need to try to get more
Speaker 1: girls in. And you know, the bitcoin ecosystem isn't isn't
Speaker 1: friendly to girls or things like that. And I'm curious
Speaker 1: from your perspective because you're fighting in a man's sport,
Speaker 1: and you've kind of pushed to kind of get this
Speaker 1: woman adoption if you will, to get in the sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you kind of look at it the
Speaker 1: same way in bitcoin? Do you think that's kind of
Speaker 1: hostile that way?
Speaker 3: I didn't get it better. I think, you know, I
Speaker 3: feel very happy today. I went to the conference of
Speaker 3: the girls, and in it may is the same thing
Speaker 3: when I started like years ago. Don't have a lot
Speaker 3: of girls. It's like me training with fifty guys inside
Speaker 3: the gym. But I haven't dreamed, I believe, and I
Speaker 3: have a lot of young girls, said Chris. You know
Speaker 3: I start fighting training because I watched you first fight.
Speaker 3: So you just opened the door for a lot of
Speaker 3: women's and the same thing. I know they haveing a
Speaker 3: small group, but I think it's big. Actually, you know,
Speaker 3: I have a lot of girls in the room, but
Speaker 3: it's growing. And open the door for another girls. Come
Speaker 3: and they're having some teenagers there too. I was thinking,
Speaker 3: very super cool. Really yes, and just open the door
Speaker 3: for another girls.
Speaker 2: The pioneers.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you look at bitcoin as like
Speaker 1: something just to save your money in for later, or
Speaker 1: you're looking at it as maybe something that you might
Speaker 1: want to try to, like find a way to work
Speaker 1: in the bitcoin industry. At some point you said, no,
Speaker 1: I I.
Speaker 3: Was just talking to my films says you need to
Speaker 3: find something for work with bitcoin, And for now I'm
Speaker 3: just old prepare for the future. I know it's the
Speaker 3: long term, but I always thinking about I said, we
Speaker 3: need to do something with a big coin.
Speaker 1: So what's next for Cyborg? You have a couple more years,
Speaker 1: a few more championships to win.
Speaker 3: I'm my next fight probably gonna be October November, and
Speaker 3: I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: I'm going to defend my title.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for defending my titles a couple of times
Speaker 3: and make a big fight for my fans.
Speaker 1: What else do you do besides fighting? I mean there
Speaker 1: you do you have like maybe some nonprofits or any
Speaker 1: other business ventures or anything.
Speaker 3: I didn't have no profity yet because I went away
Speaker 3: to be retired for becing me and myself take care.
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to leave somebody take care. I
Speaker 2: like to be stepped in front to do.
Speaker 3: And but I do different ones to help the different
Speaker 3: organizations in Brazil. I went to Africa and and then
Speaker 3: still work of the rumors. I have the pig Belt
Speaker 3: Fitness for teaching a lot of girls self defense everything,
Speaker 3: and I was thinking about maybe I have the opportunity
Speaker 3: to explain about bi cooin for them to I never did,
Speaker 3: but I think it.
Speaker 1: Was really coolink Belt Fitness.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's you stay spending two days together and then
Speaker 3: with trainee, I share a little bit about my life, house, everything,
Speaker 3: then shared the lives too, you know, and we'd learned
Speaker 3: self defense. I showed them a little bit about my
Speaker 3: thie box in jiu jitsu and about fitness now diet,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was very very cool, all the girls
Speaker 3: together like a camp, yes, like a camp two days
Speaker 3: sometimes one.
Speaker 1: Day, just like one time a year.
Speaker 2: I try to do more than maybe three times a year.
Speaker 1: To try Okay, Yes, where's that.
Speaker 3: I did in California. I did it in Thailand. I
Speaker 3: can do different places, okay.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: My my youngest daughter, we had her doing jiu jitsu
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and she was good, good,
Speaker 1: She did a couple of tournaments, but then she got
Speaker 1: older and she didn't want to do it anymore. But
Speaker 1: she's got a good base.
Speaker 3: It's important self defense, it is really important.
Speaker 1: And confidence. Yes, yes, but you only get confidence from
Speaker 1: doing it, because the confidence is knowing that you have
Speaker 1: the skills.
Speaker 2: I believe confident when you learn it. What are you doing?
Speaker 3: And then you'll give you a confidence like go to
Speaker 3: their fight when you train all the time and you
Speaker 3: train hard, this is their confidence because you know, you know, yes,
Speaker 3: because you train, you wady for and sometimes it's not
Speaker 3: going to win, yes, but you know you're add it
Speaker 3: for you know, for for doing your best.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I would say back to bitcoin is
Speaker 1: kind of the same way where people are afraid of it,
Speaker 1: and the way that you get confidence is by doing
Speaker 1: it the homework. Do your homework, learn about it, you know, move,
Speaker 1: move some small transactions and and the more that you learn,
Speaker 1: the more that you do talk about then you gain
Speaker 1: the confidence.
Speaker 3: Yes, just put a little bit under study what we
Speaker 3: really do this well, then put to the appel give
Speaker 3: you some five dollars for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then say.
Speaker 3: Now you have to do a homework, you know, study
Speaker 3: looking for and you play around, you know for joarning.
Speaker 1: All right, Hopefully you enjoyed that interview with Chris. It
Speaker 1: was it was great to be able to sit down
Speaker 1: meet a legend like a living legend for real, and
Speaker 1: you've been listening to the Mark More Show talking about
Speaker 1: the largest revolution in the world. This is the technological
Speaker 1: revolution that's powered by bitcoin. Hopefully enjoy that show. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening.