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Speaker 1: What's up, my friends, Welcome back to a brand new

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Speaker 1: episode of Wrestling with Freddy. With Me today is my

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Speaker 1: lovely co host, mister Jeff Dye. That's right, I called

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Speaker 1: him lovely and we have our first guest of the

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Speaker 1: season this year, a man I'm very excited to have.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the most innovative high flyers of his generation.

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Speaker 1: He has redefined what's possible inside the ropes. You may

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Speaker 1: know him from his incredible runs and independence from New

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Speaker 1: Japan to Lucha Underground. That's where I first saw him.

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Speaker 1: That was some sick shit. And he's also wild crowds

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Speaker 1: all around the world, and now he's making waves in

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Speaker 1: ae W, already stacking up matches against some of their

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Speaker 1: absolute best Kenny Omega, Swerve, Strickland, Will Osprey, just to

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Speaker 1: name a few. We're talking about a man who's been

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Speaker 1: called the one and only for a reason, and today

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Speaker 1: he's here to talk about his journey, his new chapter

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Speaker 1: in aew, the matches that I've already lit up the fans,

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Speaker 1: and what's next for the one we like to call

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Speaker 1: right here on this show, Pretty Ricky. Now your main

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Speaker 1: event introducing the hosts har Wrestling with Parreddy Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Die Hand of Parredy, Prince.

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Speaker 1: Tune, ladies and gentlemen, Ricochet, welcome to the show, sir.

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Speaker 3: Hey that yes, that is how someone should be introduced.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing, Thank you, sir. Thank sorry gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I should have done that voice. Yeah, that's the voice

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Speaker 1: they should have been. That wouldn't have gotten over. That's

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Speaker 1: good too, I take that too. That was almost like

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two Vince McMahon, that voice.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to mix Vince with with Paul Hammon.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, he used to be one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: like commentators, Vince like when he was like.

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Speaker 2: Commentating great on the mic, right he was.

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Speaker 3: He would always use different words, and he would always

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Speaker 3: like just really hype up the event or like he

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Speaker 3: would like put all of it into like hyping up everything.

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Speaker 2: He really he loved it, you could tell. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I loved the old school stuff man, and I loved

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Speaker 1: how Jesse would always trash on him.

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Speaker 2: They would do commentary together. He's like, you.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't do a

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Speaker 1: Jesse impression or I would so listen man, just to start,

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Speaker 1: because there was tons of talk when you when you

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Speaker 1: left WWE and went to AEW, but you've been there

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Speaker 1: for a while now. You just celebrated a year in August.

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Speaker 1: How has life settled in for it? I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: outside of wrestling, you've had a lot of life change,

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Speaker 1: you got married and all that. But within your work

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Speaker 1: career creatively, how are things settling in for you so far?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, someone just the other day who it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 3: someone just the other day asked me, so, do you

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Speaker 3: feel like you've gotten your your love back and your

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Speaker 3: left back of the wrestling? I said, absolutely, I absolutely do.

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Speaker 3: And I think again, just being around that environment of

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Speaker 3: all those people that I had spent years traveling the

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Speaker 3: you know, the best memories I'm ever going to have.

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Speaker 3: I think being back in that environment and connecting back

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Speaker 3: out a lot with like my en ring work. Because

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Speaker 3: I was just telling someone the other day on a

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Speaker 3: I was doing on the independen scene that got me popular,

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Speaker 3: is basically just reverting back to all of that when

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Speaker 3: I was actually having fun and stuff, and it's sexually

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Speaker 3: just paying off now on television. So I've gotten lucky

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Speaker 3: that they've aw and everyone there has given me the

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Speaker 3: But I've had a lot of help as well. It

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Speaker 3: hasn't been just me. So that's another thing that I've

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Speaker 3: been lucky on is that everyone's been like wanting to

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Speaker 2: So that's another thing that I've been lucky on.

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Speaker 3: So it's really just everything is all together just kind

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Speaker 2: So that's it's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, let me follow up on that real quick and

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Speaker 1: then I'll let you jump in. You know, you had

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Speaker 2: He has to go to a W.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't go to AW, oh my god, he's

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Speaker 1: still but no, no, no, he's got it. So you you

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Speaker 1: gave the fans the satisfaction. So when you came in,

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Speaker 1: you were beloved, but right now you're hated yea for

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Speaker 1: the things you do, which is a quick transition in

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Speaker 1: just a year. Was that a conscious thing that you

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's all been the crowd's fault, to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, it's been their fought. I did, like you said,

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Speaker 3: I came in ready to give the people, you know,

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Speaker 3: body poles. And what happened, they literally rejected me. For

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Speaker 3: the most part, they rejected me. It didn't matter what

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Speaker 3: popped out of nowhere, had something to say to me.

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Speaker 3: And then since then the fans Swerve and honestly, it

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Speaker 3: seems like the entirety of aw almost has been trying

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Speaker 3: to keep me down, to be honest with you, Luckily,

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Speaker 3: I have two guys now that's seen. You know, they've

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Speaker 3: walked the path that I've fought. They've been trying, they've

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Speaker 3: been held down too. So now we are finally building

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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna fight.

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Speaker 3: So honestly, I blame the fans because, like you said,

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Speaker 3: I came in, I came in ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I came you. Me and will Ospray were teaming up

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Speaker 3: Doing our thing, and then literally along the way, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you turned.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I don't give a damn about the fans.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: I've been saying that they've been holding you down in

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Speaker 4: every place You've gone w W E A W in

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Speaker 4: every in every every market. I didn't follow you on

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Speaker 4: on the end. But uh, but I've been saying since

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Speaker 4: makings of a Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 2: In this household. I appreciate that you're currently.

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Speaker 4: In aaw which is probably what we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: about most. So how do you view the current locker room?

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Speaker 4: All the competition there, the camaraderie, the mentorship.

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Speaker 2: Is this better?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you're even allowed to answer that,

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Speaker 4: but like I know you're happy with where you're at.

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Speaker 2: Is this is this the right landing spot for you?

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Speaker 3: I think for me absolutely, And again I said this

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Speaker 3: in a different interview a couple a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: If you look at like any locker room and basically

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Speaker 3: pretty stacked, I mean really like if you look at it.

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Speaker 3: So that's one thing I think the wrestling world in

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Speaker 2: Just there's so many good people out there.

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Speaker 3: But as for me specifically and what I want to

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Speaker 3: like to create specifically, when I'm just like walking around

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Speaker 3: I look around and I say, Oh, all these guys

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Speaker 3: all kind of a little bit crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think we're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we all

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Speaker 3: the aspect of just going crazy, like doing the most

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Speaker 3: That also gives us a thrill as much as seeing

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Speaker 2: We're kind of like stuntman, we love that part. Take

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Speaker 1: If you could, like, do you see other wrestlers moves

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Speaker 1: I got to wrestle this guy. We got to get

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Speaker 1: Like is that how you do it or is it

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Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people that for me

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Speaker 3: I don't want to wrestle anybody anymore. I've wrestled everybody,

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Speaker 3: so I don't want to wrestle no one. Just give

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Speaker 3: with them, you know. But but I will say that

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Speaker 3: I feel the like we feel the person out, we

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Speaker 3: which is great because if you come with all the

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Speaker 3: We don't have to like sit and think about what

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Speaker 3: that's perfect that.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: So you really like to improv like a lot of provisation,

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Speaker 1: be like Karen Culkin, right, like he hates rehearsals. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to rehearse. He doesn't want you to know

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Speaker 1: what he's gonna like he'll give you a brief like

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Speaker 3: Or I mean, honestly like the weekly to week the

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Speaker 1: I was really scared. My Grandma's like keeping me under

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Speaker 1: it's really hard. It's really really hard.

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00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: There's a guy in dragon Gate named Flamita. He was

437
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 3: really good. Titan is really good. U vol Jr. Is

438
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: a guy, He's really good. Man Commander. I wrestled Commander

439
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: in a e W hell Ya. He's new, but like

440
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: he does, he is wild. He he does some crazy stuff.

441
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: But I mean Vol I like wrestling. Volador. I wrestled Titan.

442
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: I wrestled U Mascaraderada also known as Grand Metallique him

443
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: in New Japan.

444
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: Uh. He was really good too, ah man, I don't

445
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: know that to be hard.

446
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna go ahead and say right, I'm

447
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: gonnahead and say ray because that's sure. He literally was

448
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: like crying after like spheak, and I was like so emotional.

449
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't even like talk to him afterwards because I

450
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: was just I don't know, I was just so emotional.

451
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: I've been watching him at ninety six ninety seven. You

452
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean, He's got that aura.

453
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 4: Man.

454
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: When I when I worked.

455
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: At WW back in the day, they were like, well,

456
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: you speak Spanish, so you're working with Ray. That's kind

457
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: of like how the writers got assign people. It was like,

458
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: if you're black, you write for the black writers. If

459
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: you're spending, they didn't know I was Puerto Rican. They're like,

460
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: your Mexican, go work with Ray. And so I got

461
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: to meet him and I really had a very similar

462
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: moment with him where I was just like, I don't

463
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: know what to say, Like I came up watching this dude, yeah,

464
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: and loved his matches so many. He's my favorite luchador,

465
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: like he's everyone's favoriteluchidor that's not news. And I literally

466
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: it was like his aura was there, like like that

467
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy thing when he talks about Rick James had

468
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: an aura. Oh yeah, he's like you could see it,

469
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: Like I could see his aura around him, and it

470
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: made it hard for me to work with him and

471
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: give him my best because it was like you're around

472
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: greatness and you know you are right, Yeah.

473
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: I know, it's it's he's just all those because again

474
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: why and having all those memories and emotions of like

475
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: what he's done for you just pop up and you're like,

476
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, what's up. Like he's just the nicest

477
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: guy in the world. He's a shitless guy in the world. Yeah,

478
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: you couldn't even tell, like he's the mega star. But

479
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: it's awesome. I love it.

480
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's a moment you had where you got

481
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: to kind of see it not a hero, but a

482
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: peer that you respect. Right So with the young generation now,

483
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: and it may just be the gentleman you're working with

484
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: right now, but who have you found that's receptive to advice?

485
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: Who's come up to you for advice? Because ah, you're

486
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: in that position. Yeah, No, it's funny.

487
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: It's so funny because October will be twenty two years actually,

488
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: so I legit half people coming up to me because

489
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: I was always the young kid, like because I would

490
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: travel with Chuck Taylor and everyone else who were all

491
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: older than me.

492
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: Like I was always the youngest.

493
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: So now that I have kids, like oh, I grew

494
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: up watching you, or like I used to watch you

495
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, or like I'm like, wow,

496
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: that's crazy because I'm the kid.

497
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 2: I'm the little one. So there's a nick Wayne for example.

498
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: I always use him. I always use him as my example.

499
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: He's only like twenty years old, so I've been wrestling

500
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: longer than he's been alive, which is crazy because I'm

501
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: the kid. I'm the baby, so that's crazy to me.

502
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, like it is cool like when you especially

503
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: when I do the indie shows or something, but an

504
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: aew two as well, Like we're all pretty receptive to everybody.

505
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: I think everyone wants everyone to do well.

506
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: So it's actually pretty cool because sometimes MJF has something

507
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: to tell me. He's like, oh I noticed something, try

508
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: to do like this. I'm like, oh, thank you, or

509
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: vice versa, I say to this person or so that's

510
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: actually pretty cool because I think we all do want

511
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: it to just grow and want everyone to be our

512
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: best selves and we want everyone to be the best

513
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: good guy or bad guy that we can be to

514
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: tell whatever story we're trying to tell. So but as

515
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: far as specific people, it's hard to name specific people,

516
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: but it feels like you do have people. Okay, can

517
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: you watch my match? Can you you know, give me

518
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: some advice? But also for me, I'm the type of person,

519
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 3: I would have to like sit down with you and

520
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 3: rewatch your match and go over it, because if I'm

521
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: watching it, like and you guys are doing anything kind

522
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: of cool, I'm going to forget that I'm watching it

523
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: and I'm going to start like really watching it, and

524
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like.

525
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: Oh, that was crazy.

526
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be taking notes,

527
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: so like that's not good for me. I A little

528
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: bit of my fan always pops out and I start

529
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: to really watch the match. So we would have to

530
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: like sit down and we would have to watch it

531
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: and go over it. And because that's kind of how

532
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: I was not taught, but like being in like the

533
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: Shawn Michaels the Skull class, he would sit down with

534
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: us and we would watch our takeover match. We would

535
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: watch our life event match, and he would like go

536
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: over little tits and bits and little things like literally

537
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: just nitpicking because he's like, oh, you guys are you know,

538
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: really advanced.

539
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: You guys know what you're doing.

540
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: He's like, this is just to help the little pieces

541
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: that you can make the picture better, you know. So

542
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I would have to do it,

543
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: because if you just asked me to watch your match,

544
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: and you do anything remotely cool, I'm I'm gonna forget that.

545
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 3: I'm watching it to like for to give you advice.

546
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch it and be a fan.

547
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: It's funny. Something you said there reminded me. And I

548
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: don't know if this will interest the listeners. I don't

549
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: know if it'll interest you guys. But knows. World War two, Nope. Done.

550
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Post World War two, a lot of artists like Pablo

551
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: Picasso and I'm adel Modigiani and that whole group of

552
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: post Impressionists. They were all hanging out in Paris at

553
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: this place, this hotel called the Hive, and they had

554
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: a very similar style where they would look at each

555
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: other's works, their sculptures, things like that, and they'd say, hey,

556
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think you could do a little more

557
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: of this, or you have a lot of African inspired,

558
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: like you know, cultural things with your stonework, so maybe

559
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: you should try some of this, and they would literally

560
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: That's how they evolved so quickly, and they became my

561
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: favorite generation of artists. But it's a very similar thing

562
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: creatively that you're talking about, which is it just reinforces

563
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: that wrestlers are artists, you know, because you guys are

564
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: even going working with each other in a very similar way.

565
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to ask. I'll go to Chris Hero

566
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: or I'll go to.

567
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: Christopher Daniels or somebody and be like, what do you

568
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: think about X Y Z? Or if we're trying to

569
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: get here, so what do you? I like leaning on

570
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: those guys a lot, and leaning on the people that

571
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: we have there to like get advice, to get something from,

572
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: because I don't know they have it and they're vail

573
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: and they want to help. So and then and again,

574
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: the guys that the wrestlers that are there have been

575
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: doing it for so long that again, like you pull

576
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: anyone aside and any any one of the wrestlers and

577
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: be like, can you think of something like something like

578
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: this and whatever the situation is, And for the most part,

579
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: they'll stop kind of what they're doing and they'll help

580
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: you think of something like So it's pretty cool, honestly,

581
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: And everyone's kind of crazy. So everyone's going to think

582
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: of something a little bit crazy and you're like, oh,

583
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Yeah, and then you know, but normally it's like, oh, okay,

584
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: you like crazy. You keep saying that you like you

585
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: like the crazy. Really, it's not even that I like it.

586
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: I think we just all happen to be that way instinctually.

587
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: I think we all like you see the Ladder match,

588
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: it just happened at all out. Yeah, man, the ghost

589
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: guys are crazy. You have to want to do that.

590
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: That's wild.

591
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm a dad.

592
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: So now when I watch it, I'm like, oh God, no,

593
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: don't feel that high.

594
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: Freddie into blood, he's getting into I'm.

595
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Getting back into blood. I used to get grossed out

596
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: by it, but now I feel you. I feel you,

597
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I feel you. Yeah.

598
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: I've always been a bloodthirsty animal wanting them to do

599
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: all this stuff.

600
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: Even when I was a kid, I was like, that

601
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: was real.

602
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: That part was real, that they went off thing they

603
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: weren't supposed to do that.

604
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: John Cena and jbl that match, they were both just.

605
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

606
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: I got a question for you.

607
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: Are are Me and Freddy are often guilty of neglecting

608
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: or forgetting about our female listeners.

609
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: So I thought, you know, keeping them in mind.

610
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: I'd like to ask you a question getting to the

611
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: mind of Ricochet. Were you and your wife Samantha love

612
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: it first sight or how did you meet what was

613
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 4: soul mates? How did how did that go down? And

614
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: tell tell our fans about that?

615
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think honestly, yeah, I think so as funny

616
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: as it sounds. We actually she started following me on Twitter,

617
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: so I followed her back obviously, and then Instagram other socials,

618
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: and then you just start talking and then from there

619
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: it goes to phone talking. Right, So we're talking, you know,

620
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: for good couple. We're like two weeks, We're like talking.

621
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: And at the time I didn't know because she lived

622
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: in Vegas at the time. So at the time we

623
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: started talking and and and getting, you know, to know

624
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: each other.

625
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: She lived in Vegas.

626
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: I lived in Orlando, and I didn't know that she

627
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: had already had a try out. I didn't know that

628
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: she had already been talking with the WWE. I didn't

629
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: know that she had you know, she was actually gonna

630
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: be involved.

631
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: I just you know, she followed me, so I as

632
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: I say, she's she's hot. But but then you know

633
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: that whole time, I'm like, Okay, she lives in Vegas.

634
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna either have to go out there, She's gonna

635
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: have to come, Like, I don't know how we're gonna

636
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: do this, but I guess we're gonna have to make

637
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: it work. But then when I found out, you know,

638
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: like two or three weeks later that she was actually

639
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: coming down to Orlando, I said, oh that's that was like,

640
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: oh wow, perfect, yeah, perfect, because I was trying to think,

641
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: how are we going to do this? But but then

642
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: she was there for about I don't know, nine ten months,

643
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: maybe she was in Orlando with the NXT stuff. And

644
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: then that's when we really you know, got to really

645
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: just see each other.

646
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: No.

647
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: Actually I flew out to Vegas before she came to uh,

648
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: before she came to Orlando.

649
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: I flew out there. And it's funny, I landed at

650
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: like nine thirty.

651
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: Let's say I landed at nine thirty West Coast time PM.

652
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: We start, we drive. She shows me like the cities

653
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: because I've never really been to Vegas by the way,

654
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: like I've maybe went once for a wrestling show. But like,

655
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: we landed early in the morning, and I went straight

656
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: to my hotel to like take a nap because it

657
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: was like we landed at.

658
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: Like five in the morning.

659
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: The wrestler life, yeah, and then you know, wake up,

660
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: get ready, go to the show, do the show. And

661
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: then like I had a red eye out that night,

662
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: so like I didn't even get to see Vegas. I

663
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: didn't get this do anything. That was like the only

664
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: time I've been here. So she showed me a bunch

665
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: of stuff. And then so it's maybe an hour later,

666
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: so ten thirty, she says, she's like, what do you

667
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: want to do. I'm like, I don't know. I've never

668
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: been to Vegas. She was like, you want to go

669
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: see the Grand Canyon. I said, I'm thinking, Okay, it's

670
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: in my head. I'm thinking it's probably fairly close, you know,

671
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: if she's gonna offer it, it's probably fairly close. I'm like, sure,

672
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: let's go. How far away is it? She looks it up,

673
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, it's like four and a half hours. Yeah,

674
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: it's wild. Sure, I have no other plans, let's just go.

675
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: So we started driving in the middle of the night.

676
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: We drove, I think we got to like king Kingsman, Arizona.

677
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: We stopped at Kingsman, Arizona. Wow, had some cracker barrel

678
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: the next day, so that was technically like our first

679
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: like date was cracker barrel.

680
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: Technically, then we literally just finished.

681
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: Roles are reversed that is like a man driving a

682
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: woman four and a half hours.

683
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: Hey, what could go wrong? What could I promise I

684
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: won't murder you?

685
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

686
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: Literally, So we just finished the drive.

687
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: We go to the Grand Canyon and get an awesome photo,

688
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: Like at the Grand Canyon there's like snow capped mountains

689
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: and stuff.

690
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: It's like an awesome photo that we have. Uh.

691
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 3: And then I think since then, I think we always

692
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: kind of knew, even on the drive there. I think

693
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: we just kind of knew, Like I think we just Yeah.

694
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 2: She's made a very follow up question.

695
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: She's made it very clear she wanted to be a

696
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: personality in WWE. She's she's got gifts, she's got talents.

697
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: You don't want to just be announcing and all that stuff.

698
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: So has there been any thoughts of, you know, maybe

699
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: having her as a manager or getting her getting her

700
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: in the in the g Oh.

701
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think I think it's still possible. I

702
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: think just right now, she again, like me reverting back

703
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: to what got me popular to get to where I'm

704
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: at now, she is going back to what got her

705
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: popular because she's been doing music and she was in

706
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: drama club and she was in theater and she's been doing.

707
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: She's been she literally traveled the whole world singing doing

708
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: a Michael Jackson like live performance, like a group. She

709
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: like traveled Australia, Europe, she's been in Japan. She's been

710
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: all over doing like this theater performances and stuff, you

711
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. She's been on America's Got Talent.

712
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: She's been on I Can See Your Voice. She's been

713
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: on like so much stuff before she got here. You

714
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: know which one I Can See your Voice. I was

715
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: one of the detectives on I Can See Your Voice.

716
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: Oh really, I think it was like I forgot who

717
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: was this for hers? She wasn't my episode. I remember that,

718
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: yeah exactly. And so she again, I think once she

719
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: found out like she's not going to really be able

720
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: to do what she kind of wanted to do, she

721
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: just wanted to take a step back and then kind

722
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: of go back to what she her passion was because

723
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: a lot of in the way she was announcing in

724
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 3: the gravel in her voice, she felt like, She's like, man,

725
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: my singing voice isn't what it used to be because

726
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: I'm using like my rock voice, like I'm using like

727
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: a like a you know when she's screaming, roam and

728
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: reins and it's it's kind of it's more than singing

729
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: like a note, you know. So she just wanted to

730
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: get back to like doing what she you know, her

731
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: passion was. And I think right now also again, because

732
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: she grew up loved wrestling. She grew up you know,

733
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: in love with the stories and making it and you know,

734
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: it being as good as possible, and she wanted to

735
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: make it as good as possible, and that's why she

736
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: puts so much effort into it. And I think she's honestly,

737
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: she got tired a lot of the lot of the

738
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: online community, to be honest with you, like that has

739
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: a lot like along with like, you know again for her,

740
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: like saying people's hometowns and weight wasn't her dream, Like

741
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to say someone's hometown where they're from,

742
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: and like their weight, like it is cool, and I

743
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: loved she'd loved actual the act of doing it and

744
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: being live in front of the fans doing something like

745
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: like that's you know, that was great. But like again,

746
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: she says, I'm an actress playing the role of a

747
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: ring announcer, you know what I mean. And she's like

748
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm just done, like I'm kind of over playing this role.

749
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: I want to play a different role to make the

750
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: company better. She's like, if I can make people feel

751
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: this way just on my announcements, Like how do you

752
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: think I could make them feel with like a promo

753
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: or like a you know what I mean?

754
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: And she's easily that became one of the most famous

755
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: in the short amount of time of naming people's cities

756
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: and wait, Sky's the limit if she can be anything else.

757
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: I mean like literally everyone's sharing her pictures and what

758
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: she does and she's literally just saying cities and waits,

759
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 4: So sky's the limit for Yeah.

760
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: So she always thought was like, imagine if I hit

761
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: him with a crazy Paul Hayman style promo that you

762
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: know she could do because she's an actress and she

763
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: can just even like at home, she she is a

764
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: character all day long.

765
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: She all day long.

766
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: She's a character, So I know it would translate. But

767
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: right now, I think with the music and stuff, she's

768
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: really loving that and she's really like connecting with a

769
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: part of her that she kind of had detached away

770
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: from for so long. But I think it's always possible,

771
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: and I think obviously She always wants the fans of

772
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: hers that actually were fans of hers, that are like

773
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: sad that they don't get to see her now, she

774
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: does still want to do something for that group of

775
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: people who still want to, like, you know, see her

776
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: and follow her.

777
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: So I think it's great to see her manage. Man

778
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: we need a strong female manager out there that can.

779
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: Do more managers in general.

780
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I agree, yeah's mouthpieces out there when the brain and

781
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Cornett, all those guys.

782
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, there's so many wrestlers that are fantastic wrestlers,

783
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: but the mic work isn't isn't as strong as maybe

784
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 4: their body of wrestling, and so it's like just bringing

785
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: a manager.

786
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: And even sometimes like you have like Roman Reigns who

787
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: did a lot of his own promos, but the manager

788
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: just helped. Yeah, just elevates its just elevates elevates everything.

789
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: I totally agree.

790
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, dude, six years is coming up in

791
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: a e W six years.

792
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: A lot of.

793
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: People said it wouldn't even last two years. Uh it is.

794
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: It has surpassed a lot of a lot of people's

795
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: skepticism and criticism, and six years is nothing to shake

796
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: a stick at as the old people would say, you

797
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: haven't been there the whole time. But how do you

798
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: see your personal trajectory within the company oversay the next two.

799
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: To three years? Where would you like to be? Uh?

800
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: I know, right now, me and Homie's about to come

801
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: after the OPS. I don't care if Shabout has hurt

802
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: or not. It's not cool. I don't care if hurt

803
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: or not. I'll hurt him even more if I have to.

804
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: I'll go to the hospital he's at. They can take

805
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: the other two guys, you know, I'm saying, they can

806
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 3: take Hobbs and and Joe.

807
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: I'll take care of Shabata.

808
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: And I think that with that, you know, with that

809
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: game plan, we can easily take out the OPS and

810
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: get those trios championships and give a shot of adrenaline

811
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: to this trios division.

812
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: AW got me into trios wrestling, by the way, I

813
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: never understood six man tags in WWE, and then once

814
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: there were like titles on the line and people had

815
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: something to care about and give a shit about other

816
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: than hey, those are my friends, I was like, I'm

817
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: starting to get this now, and I've really grew Trios

818
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: matches have really grown on me, and it's that's because

819
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: of as and.

820
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: I think you know in at the end of the day,

821
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: wrestlers are prize fighters, you know what I'm saying, Like

822
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Like we fight for

823
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: the championship because the champion gets more money, and like

824
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: that's why we want Like the story helps that. But

825
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we're prize fighters, just

826
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: like boxers, just like UFC fighters.

827
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Yea, you know what I'm saying.

828
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: We're so like that's another thing about aw Like you

829
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: can be champion, but then all of a sudden, Tony

830
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: throws out a four hundred thousand dollars four way match,

831
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: and as champion, you can you can say wait wait,

832
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: wait wait, it's so cool, or you could be you know,

833
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: on the verge chasing a champion, right, you're chasing whomever

834
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: the Kyle Fletcher. But then Tony throws out this four

835
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars four way match, and you're like, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait,

836
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: wait side Quesz, Kyle's probably still going to be champion,

837
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: but I got a chance to win four hundred thousand

838
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: dollars real quick, absolutely, because then within that match something

839
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 3: could happen someone could screw you out of the match,

840
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: and now your story goes towards that guy because he

841
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: screwed you out of four hundred thousand dollars, And now

842
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: I want to beat that guy up because he screwed

843
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: me out of four hundred thousand dollars. And then afterwards

844
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: I'll go back to Kyle and I'll take that championship.

845
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 3: So that's kind of I do like that about aew

846
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: is that again, we are prize fighters and we want

847
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: to fight for something, So but within that stories can

848
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: develop and you could go a whole different direction than

849
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: you were going because someone screwts you out of all

850
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: that money, you know what I'm saying. Or maybe you

851
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: want some money and someone's mad and they jump you

852
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: at or whatever, you know what I mean.

853
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: So that's I do. I do enjoy that aspect of it.

854
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: I really do.

855
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: Jeff, why don't you jump in there with your with

856
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: your final question?

857
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like we should do a three hour interview,

858
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: so it's not really there.

859
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: I know.

860
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

861
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: Agreed, Right before the ops came into your vision, went

862
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: after them, you took out the Hurt Syndicate. What did

863
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 4: they do that made you take them out? Was because

864
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: they didn't let you into the hurt syndicate. What's what's

865
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 4: going on here?

866
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: We'll see.

867
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: If it was simply they didn't let me into the

868
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: hurt syndicate, that would be a whole different That would

869
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: make me seem crazy, right, that would make me seem

870
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: like a crazy person. If it was only they just

871
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: didn't let me into the hurt syndicket. But not only

872
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: did did they just not let me into the hurt syndicate?

873
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: But like when I was finally ready to show them

874
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: that I had that dark So when I was finally

875
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: ready to show them that I had a switch that

876
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: could be flipped, they decided to grab my face and

877
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: rip the card up and call me a kiss ass

878
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: and kicked me out the ring and like embarrass me

879
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: in front of all these people. For like, like I said,

880
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: for years, MVP has spit game MVP. For years, MVP

881
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: has put me on and has taught me and has

882
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: led me through like the wilder wilderness that is professional wrestling.

883
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: And he's he's taught me a lot.

884
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: So like it's funny that he would choose to go

885
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: this route with me specifically of all people, not thinking

886
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: that Yo, you taught me like, don't take don't take

887
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: nothing from nobody.

888
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: You taught me that.

889
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: You taught me, don't let nobody embarrassed me, don't let

890
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: nobody step on me. You taught me that, you know

891
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's not only that they didn't

892
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 3: just let me in. They literally embarrassed me in front

893
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: of the world to lead up to Swerve, thinking that

894
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: he can now embarrass me in front of the world

895
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: immediately after, you know what I mean. So for me, like,

896
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: that's kind of what it was. And then, like I

897
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: said before, as soon as I saw the match GA

898
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: versus the Hurt Syndicate, as soon as I saw that

899
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: tag match and I saw that the Hurt Syndicate barely

900
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: squeaked by, I said, I know that these guys can

901
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: take on these guys. I knew that for a fact.

902
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: And I know that Goa were hungry, and I know

903
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: they wanted opportunity, and I know that they just needed

904
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: something to get them to that next level. So as

905
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: soon as I saw that, I jumped on and they

906
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: I told them my plan. They saw that I had

907
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: their best interest at heart. I knew that they had

908
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: my best interest at heart and it's just been good

909
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: ever since. And so that's why we had to make

910
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: an example of them, a forbidden door, to let them

911
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: know that they not just here to They hurt people.

912
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: Both. We hurt people too.

913
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: You know how I see? Uh, I see, And we

914
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: could edit this out as well. But the way, the

915
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: way I see it is m VP is like Bowser,

916
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 4: you know, and the Hurd Syndicate is like his little

917
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: goombas and and I see Ricochet as Marios Sanker Mario,

918
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: and I see Samantha as maybe Princess Pete. Yeah, who's

919
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: getting stole by Bowser over and over. I think we

920
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: could work something like that. I think that's a good idea.

921
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I just right.

922
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's cut this and then you take that idea

923
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: and run with it and then nobody will.

924
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be the next big storyline, Ricochet. If you

925
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: need someone that has a pretty consistent two to one

926
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: killed death ratio, if one of your guys is out,

927
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: call me. I'm your guy. I'm not great, but two.

928
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 3: To one better than the one point one point two something.

929
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: I feel you.

930
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: So, if you need a little if you guys drop

931
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: a player one night because it's why I phone let

932
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: them play that night. Take the kids to a birthday

933
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: or something. Hit me up, man, I like how that's.

934
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: Like that now that we're older, that's the that's the

935
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I said, Oh man, I gotta take the kids. Sorry,

936
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: that's that's how it goes.

937
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Man, I'm taking my son go kart racing when we

938
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: finished this, when we finished this podcast, I'm so jealous.

939
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: I am so jealous.

940
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: Isn't this great that we're three grown man? It's the

941
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: fact that that is. Look at look at what when.

942
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: We still play video games? But it's the time. What

943
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: a great time, What a great time to be just

944
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: a rich grown man. What a great time. You don't

945
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: ever have to grow up.

946
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: No, don't always always stay young, man, You'll live longer

947
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: that way. Rick Ashe, thank you so much for being

948
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: a part of the show. Tell the people where they

949
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: can reach you on social media if they want to

950
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: get annihilated by your words.

951
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: You can follow me at King Ricochet. That's on Instagram

952
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: and Twitter. Basically everything that I do is King Ricochet.

953
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, follow me for a lot of video game

954
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: anime and sometimes some wrestling talk.

955
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: Did you say anime? Yeah?

956
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: Bro, this is my favorite anime over my Shrubbers from

957
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: the eighties, that's Golgo thirteen. They used to make a

958
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: comment he was like the Japanese James Bond. Yeah, yeah,

959
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's my favorite anime ever. And they didn't have

960
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: enough money to finish it, but they made it anyway.

961
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: So there's like one scene where it's just like an

962
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: animatic and it's like horrible animation.

963
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: Definitely is amazing. If you want to check it out,

964
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: check it out. Man, that's a lot of fourteen. Okay.

965
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: I've definitely seemed like the logo, but I've never watched

966
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: the show.

967
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was famous in like the seventies over there

968
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: in Japan. I saw The New Demon Slayer with my son.

969
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Did you see the New Demon Slayer?

970
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: I did. It was awesome. Yeah, I loved it. We

971
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: saw it.

972
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: We saw it in a four D theater and the

973
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: whole time, Bro, I had to tap out my son's

974
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: little he was getting launched out the seat. This Asian

975
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: dude to my right snatchos exploded all over.

976
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: The place like it was. It was hard.

977
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: Like I get the concept behind it, but like, I

978
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: don't know what they were thinking with the four D.

979
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, and.

980
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: You get sprayed with water in your face for no reason,

981
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: like like I got moonimisted.

982
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: Not.

983
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: It was horrible, all right, Thanks for doing the show Man,

984
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate y'all. We'll be

985
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: back next week. Rick Shay, You're the man. Thank you, peace,

986
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much