1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This is Andrea Gunning, host of Betrayal. We want to 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: thank all of our listeners for the continued listens, reviews, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: and emails. It is incredibly impactful to the production team 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: to hear from all of you. Although the first season 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: of Betrayal has come to a close, this story continues 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: to unfold. We are tracking Spencer's parole and providing additional 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: information over the next couple weeks. We'll be dropping bonus 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: episodes on Thursdays, including one today. If you want to 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: reach out to our team, you can email us at 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Betrayal pod at gmail dot com. That's Betrayal pod at 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Thank you for being a part of 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: this community. I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal onus 13 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: episode one Girl Tribe. Way back in the beginning of 14 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: the podcast, you might remember all the people in Ackworth, 15 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Georgia who supported Jennifer when they found out that Spencer 16 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: had been arrested. They were neighbors and close friends, people 17 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: that jen had met through the wine bar in the 18 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: neighborhood I kept her afloat during her worst days, and 19 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: as the podcast was wrapping up, Jennifer invited five of 20 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: these women to her home where they relived some of 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the moments behind the scenes. 22 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for being here tonight. 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Because you know, this journey started with you guys too. 24 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: You guys picked me up and just carried me over 25 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: the finish line of every single I just kind of 26 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: want to go around and say some things that really 27 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: stick out in my brain about each of you. Jill, Yes, 28 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: I want to talk about your reaction when I called 29 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: you to tell you. 30 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: Jill was one of the first people Jennifer called when 31 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Spencer was arrested, but Jill was out of town with 32 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: her husband, Duncan, taking care of their granddaughters in North Carolina, 33 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: hours away. 34 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: You were like, Duncan, go ahead and get her. So 35 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: the first thing I said, because I knew I couldn't 36 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: leave because I had our granddaughters and Duncan doesn't know 37 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: how to deal with little girls, And I said, go 38 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: get her, and he just looked at me with his hand. 39 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: I'll never forget his hands open. He goes, Okay, what 40 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: do I do with her? Because he knows you, and 41 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: what the fuck am I supposed to do with Jennifer 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: by myself? And I'm like, I don't care. Just take 43 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: her to the house because I was so afraid that 44 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: the news media or somebody would find out your address. 45 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: Then luckily, Danielle showed up and everybody showed up, and 46 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: you know, I was like, Okay, we're good, We're good, Danielle. 47 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: Thank you for answering the phone first of all, which 48 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: was like the most unusual thing. 49 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Danielle owned her own day spy and app worth and 50 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: would often be serving clients for long blocks of time, 51 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: but this time she picked up. 52 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 5: I was in the middle of doing a facial and 53 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: I stepped out of my treatment room and thought, something's 54 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: not right. And I looked down and my phone was 55 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 5: ringing hmm, And I said, are you okay? 56 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 6: And I said I need you to come here. And 57 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 6: I don't know if you flew, but you were there 58 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: in two seconds. I didn't know what to do, and 59 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 6: I'm sure you didn't neither. 60 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: It was easy for me because we're friends and I 61 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: wanted to be there for you. 62 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: I just didn't ever have to ask for anything. You know, 63 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: we were sitting on the porch Kim one day, and 64 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: it must have been just a day after I found 65 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: out how many women there were. Yeah, and I just 66 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: looked over at you and said, I think I need 67 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: to go to the doctor. 68 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: I think we both kind of realized at the same 69 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: time that you might have gotten something from him. 70 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: You said, I'll make the appointment, and you picked me up, 71 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: took me. 72 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 6: It's just those things that like you don't have the 73 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 6: strength to do because you can barely get through the day. 74 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: Deborah. 75 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: Deborah experienced her own heartbreak during Jennifer's journey. It was 76 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: different than Gen's, but very difficult. They leaned on each other. 77 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: You saw the day today progress I did. Look how 78 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: far we've come from sitting on that porch just being 79 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: as positive as we could. Today is a good day 80 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: to have a good day. We said that every day day. 81 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: For years. 82 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: And now look we live across the street from each other. 83 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: Just think about the past four years and everything that's happened. 84 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all of us have gone through something. 85 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: We've all had family stuff or whatever. 86 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: What has happened. 87 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 5: But no one's world has been turning upside down the way. 88 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, not even you. 89 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: Are standing on your own two feet. You know this awesome, 90 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: this great outlook on life. 91 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm just so proud of you. 92 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: This is why I left La and moved here. This 93 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: was going to happen, and it just couldn't have happened 94 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: in a better place. 95 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Jen realized she lost a husband that gained a tribe, 96 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: So I thank you for that, but sorry. 97 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: We're growing old together. 98 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: Oh I cannot wait.