1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one, and 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: today in the show, we are back with a new 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: RUT Radio episode in which we are checking with hunters 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: from across the country to get the latest on the 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: progress of the white tailed rut, current dear behavior, and 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: the tactics that are working right this very minute. And 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: today we've got updates from the states like Michigan, Vermont, Iowa, 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Kentucky and more. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: brought to you by Sitkin Gear, and we are back 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: today with another RUT Radio episode. And each week with 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: our RUT Radio episodes, we are checking in with a 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: handful of hunters from across the count treat to get 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: updates on what's happening right now with the white tail rout, 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: with white tail behavior, with conditions that are impacting deer, 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: all that kind of good stuff. And then we also 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: talk about what we should be doing as hunters to 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: be trying to fill his tags obviously, so that's what 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: we have in slate for today's episode, and with me 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: to do that is Spencer New Hearth. Spencer. How are you? 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I am good? Uh. South Dakota has had some rifle 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: seasons opened up now, and so I am off the 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: sidelines finally and I am back to hunting. So I 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: am as excited as anybody for mid November to get here. Yeah. 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: So you you you killed the buck in October, then 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: you dropped off the map in South Dakota. We didn't 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: hunt there for a while. You finally came back with 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: this rifle season and you wasted no time filling your tag. Huh, 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: that's right. Our West River season opened on last Saturday, 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: and I was tagged out about forty five minutes into 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the season, so that was a public land hunt. Um 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: went in pretty far set up and found the does 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: and then found the buck that I was after, So 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: it was another quick hunt. But luckily we have another 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: season that opens up here on this coming Saturday, so 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I'll be back at it again. I'll tell you what 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: I think I need to learn something from you, because 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I've hunted like twenty three out of the last twenty 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: four days, and like fifteen of those have been all 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: days since and I haven't killed a damn thing, So well, 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that at mark. Uh, Like nobody 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: is hunted as hard as you here since we've hit November. 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: How do you think the rut has played out as 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: far as do you think you've witnessed the different phases 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: as as most people describe them, from the seeking and 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: chasing to all the way up to now which might 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: be locked down? Do you feel like you've seen everything 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: that the most most hunters expect to see coming the rut? Yeah, 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen a pretty good swath of it. Um, 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, as far as what I've seen here in Michigan, 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: where I've spent ninety seven percent of my hunting time 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: this year during the rut, which is different than usually 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: usually I'm hunting a lot places out of state, but 56 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: as you know, I have been so focused on Holy 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Field here that UM have kind of put all my 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: what's the saying, you put all your put all the 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: something's in a but I put all my eggs in one. 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I can hardly function right now, Spencer. I'm running on 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: a collective like ten hours of sleep over the last 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: two weeks. So I'm just I'm to be honest, I'm 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: not on with it anymore. UM. So what I'm trying 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: to say is, um, here in Michigan, I started seeing 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: like that good chasing happening right around you know, early November, 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: right around like the first October thirty one, November one 67 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: started kind of kicking into gear. UM start seeing the 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: mature box, you know, relatively mature buck. There's there's one 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: three and a half year old buck in this little 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: aream hunting, and there's the five and a half year 71 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: old this holy field buck. Um starts seeing them moving 72 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: around chasing a lot. And that's been pretty consistent all 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: the way up until today. UM have been seeing some chasing, 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: but definitely the last like three or four days, it 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: has slowed down and I've been seeing, um, you know, 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: maybe that lockdown type of thing going on, UM where 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: there's been long periods of absolutely nothing going on. And 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: then ever once in a while you'll you'll see one 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: buck that's off cruising, still checking out, you know, trying 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: to find another doll um, but definitely not quite as 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: intense as it was maybe from like the second through 82 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: the ninth or t UM. But I but I'm sure 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: there's still action to be had and I spent a 84 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: couple of days in Ohio, um November, I don't know 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: what it was, eighth and ninth or ninth and ten, 86 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of cruising going on. Didn't 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: see any chasing at all, but did see I saw 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: one buck, I think, Um, but between me and Josh, 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: we saw a couple of bucks that were cruising And 90 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of the extent of it. Yeah, well, that lockdown, 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: like you talked about, that seems to be part of 92 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: a theme in this week's episode. Um, but I think 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: we as hunters often have a problem where we kind 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: of want to drop these dates in a box and say, Okay, 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: this is seeking and chasing. Uh, you know, this is 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: pre rut, this is lockdown stuff like that, and it's 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: just probably the wrong way to look at it. All 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: these things kind of bleed into each other. And although 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: we might be in you know, lockdown right now, this 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: is probably still a great time to find a book 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: on its feet and it's still better hunting, you know, 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: than it was three weeks ago, and so mid November 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: can be tough. But you know, as a hunter still 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: looking for a mature buck, you probably shouldn't be too 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: discouraged at this point. Oh yeah, that's a that's a 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: great point because and to your point that this quote 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: unquote lockdown type period, it's it's very subjective and it 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: can be very much here and not there. So you know, 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: if you're sitting on this corner of a hundred acre property, 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you might be all sorts of chasing and crazy stuff 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: going on, while you know, ards the other direction, it 112 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: might be just completely dead. And that could be the 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: case on November one, just as much as it could 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: be a November. UM. So yeah, to your point, don't 115 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: be discouraged. If you can be out there in the woods, 116 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: you should. Good things can happen. Um, It's it's still November. 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: So that's I'm excited to hear what everyone else has 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: to say because I'm sure that there's been some good 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: action happening. And um and even though this quote unquote 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: lockdown might be, you know, sort of what most people 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: expect during mid November, UM, I certainly still have high hopes. 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: And for this week's episode, we start Iowa and talk 123 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: to Jeff Lindsay from The Lindsay Way. Did we go 124 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: to Vermont and talk to Tim Bieble from the four 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: pointer dot Com that we talk to Jeff Dnker from 126 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Buck Ventures in Kentucky. Then we go to Idaho and 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: with Bone Maniacs we talked to Shane Malory. Sounds like 128 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: a great group of hunters to chat with. Anything that 129 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: we need to know before we dive right into those interviews, 130 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Hopefully when I talk to you 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: next week, Mark, you have some good news on holy Field. 132 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. Hopefully I will too. Um. We've been saying 133 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: this for like ten weeks now or something, so hopefully 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: we just don't even need to say that ever again 135 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: for good reasons, and UM, I will do my best 136 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: to make it happen. That's right. Until then, Mark, fear 137 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: no evil and buoyah. Yep, we won't even go there, 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: but for all those who know what he's talking about, 139 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll talk to your latter spensor all right. Bye. Before 140 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: we get to our first update, though, let's positive thank 141 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: our sponsors at SIT gig Year and for this week's 142 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: SIT story, we're joined by Jake Terry, who tells us 143 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: about a rut hunt that turned on a dime. Uh. 144 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: My story starts mid November in Kansas. Saw it was 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: going to be cold front low lows in the forties 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: for highs. Uh made the drive to hunt public land, 147 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: sat all morning without seeing a d year. Wanted to 148 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: get down several times, but knew that this was the 149 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: time of year and the temperature that a big buck 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: was going to be on his feet eventually. Um. At 151 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: twelve thirty, I see my first buck, um, cruising across 152 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: a CRP field. Um. After a sequence of grunting to 153 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: try to get the buck to turn my way, finally 154 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: hit his snort weez and he um, you know, heads 155 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: directly to my tree. Kill him at twenty yards and 156 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: it ends up being, um, one of the biggest bucks 157 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: I've ever taken with a bow, and it was on 158 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: public land. So um, you know, very happy with that 159 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: would have been all day said, but I was prepared 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: to sit all day um and didn't see a dear 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: till twelve thirty on Jake's hunt. He was wearing sick 162 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: is phonetic system. If you'd like to create the Sickest 163 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: story over your own, or to learn more about sitkas 164 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: technical hunting apparel, visit sit gigyear dot com. Alright, and 165 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: joining us on the line first is Jeff Lindsay out 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: of Iowa with the Lindsay way. Now, Jeff in Iowa, 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately 168 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: on a skill of one to ten, I'd say we're 169 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: probably around eight. Kind of been a I don't want 170 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: to say a trickle rut because it seems like every 171 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: year as a trickle rut. But it was really good 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: late October and then the last couple of um, you know, 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: shut down the moon, and then now it appears to 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: be going back pretty good. My dad actually shot a 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: buck this morning. Um, we've seen a you know, a 176 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: three year old, the two year old cruise in this morning. 177 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: But just based on the cameras and the daylight activity, 178 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: it's as good the last two or three days as 179 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I've seen all year. It's still not what I would call, 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, wide open crazy rut, but this as good 181 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: as yeah. And so what are your favorite techniques for 182 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: killing the buck right now? As far as hunting in 183 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the morning or evening or on food sources, betting, what 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: are you doing there in Iowa? Well right now and see, 185 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like the lockdown. Bucks are coming 186 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: on an off doze in my opinion, and it and 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: be deadly hunting food um late afternoon, it seemed like 188 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: this colder weather, the deer on the grains, they're on 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: the beans, they're on the cut corn, And I like 190 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of hours, you know, on a food plot, 191 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: just in case the dove comes in, last two or 192 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: three hours, I should say, in case the dove comes 193 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: in and maybe she's dragging a buck that you know, 194 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to wait till the time is right for her. 195 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: He's tending or whatever. But but in my opinion, as 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: far as you know, just killing a deer right now, 197 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: it's all about seat time. You just gotta If it's 198 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: daylight day like the dark, you can pull them all 199 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: the day, or it's mentally it's finally physically taxing. But 200 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: if you can do it, do it. But you know, 201 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: just based on what I'm seeing on my cameras, eleven 202 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: to two, eleven to two, two thirties, somewhere in there 203 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: is the number one time for buck activity movements, this 204 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: time of year being some of the best hunting off all. 205 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that moon phases or weather fronts play 206 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: a role in dere activity. It seems like every year 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: I know less and less about the moon because you 208 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: hear all this stuff, you know, the red moon, the 209 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: rising moon, the full moon and all that. My opinion is, 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: you know, the rut and dose in heat and weather 211 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: always trumps the moon. But but going back into the 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: last two weeks, what everybody said was the prime moon, 213 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: that late October moon, there was a lot of giant 214 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: deer killed. But the full moon, um, it was it 215 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: was terrible. I mean, not not a whole lot of 216 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: activit daylight activity at all. And if you look back, 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: this is the first time and our experience that you know, 218 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: you can look back for two weeks and the weather 219 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: has been preconsistent. Usually it's gonna get real hot, it's 220 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: gonna get real cold. We've had a couple of days 221 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: where it got real cold. But looking back to the 222 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: last two two and a half weeks, it's been fairly 223 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: consistent weather. So this year, you know, every the way 224 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: everything's lined up with the moon, it's made a little 225 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: more sense. You know, the full moon was terrible, the 226 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: red moon, rising moon right before the red moon was good. 227 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: And so it's a little like I said, it's a 228 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: it's a little more predictable, or you can monitor the 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: moon when the weather is consistent, but he was just 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: getting cold front and getting hot in the cold front, 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: getting hot, You're always gonna you know, if you see 232 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot more activity on those cold fronts. What are 233 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts on some more aggressive tactics right now, like 234 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: calling or decoy decoy in Um, right now, you just 235 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: gotta catch that buck in the right mood. Uh. The 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: deer I shot Sunday afternoon was actually eating, and the 237 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: other two big four and five year olds that I've 238 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: seen we're eating. So you know, I don't think if 239 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: I think about I had a decoy out, then I 240 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: think it would have blew my hunt. Um, But mornings 241 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: for decoys right now, I think it's pretty good. Rattling 242 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: in the morning is good. Um, I rattled in a 243 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: buck this morning, But besides that, I hadn't had a 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: whole lot of luck rattling this road. I don't know 245 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: what that can really be attributed to. And I rattle 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a fair amount, probably, you know, not as much as 247 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: some people, but I think I ban the horns a lot. 248 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: But you know, as far as aggressive right now, I 249 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: just you know, seat time, I know I can't preach 250 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: that of the just being the stand he's gonna be walking. 251 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have some daylight walkers being the stand funnels 252 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: in between bed and areas, pinch points anywhere else gonna 253 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: force a deer to go. And your trail cameras right now, 254 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: and Jeff, are they giving you any good intel? Or 255 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: is that something that you don't focus on too much 256 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: this time of year. No, We're focusing on it a lot. 257 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, We've got cameras running on scrapes, and then 258 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I got cameras on smaller food plots where I'm hoping 259 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: to catch a dough um. You know that I'll have 260 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: a buck in tow. And then you know, I've never 261 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: been a fan of, you know, checking trail cams every 262 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: day every other day, but right now I do because 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: you can go in and you can find a buck alone. 264 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: You know he's in between those You go and just 265 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: concentrate on that area, or you go in. You've gotta 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, we put cameras on time lapses a lot 267 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: in food plots, and that buck may not walk by 268 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: that camera, but you may see him. You can zoom 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: in and seize in that field. And usually if he's 270 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: in that field, unless he's getting ready to leave, that dough. 271 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be with her another day or two. So 272 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: we're we check them a lot, a lot more than 273 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: we do any other time of the year. So that's 274 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: that's why cellular cameras are are really deadly this time 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: of year. About going forward, then, jeff in the next 276 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket activity 277 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: is going to be in Iowa on the skill of 278 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: one to ten. I think it's gonna start to uh 279 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: as far as cruising bucks is gonna start slowing down, 280 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: um after the fifteenth or through the seventeenth somewhere and there. 281 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: I like, these next couple of days are actually some 282 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite. Um so I think the best is 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: probably you know, we're in that window right now, at 284 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: that five or seven day window where the real older 285 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: deer or in the day of light activity the most. 286 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: So I'd say, if it's gonna be a ten of 287 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: ten is as good as it can get, it's going 288 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: to be that in the next couple of days. Then 289 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: after that you're gonna have to start focusing on the 290 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: food sources and catching these deer, you know, trying to 291 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: refill up for the ruts. All right, jeff Y, like 292 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: your optimism and thanks for joining me. Good luck this year, 293 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Thank you man, good luck I and joining us on 294 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Tim Bieble from the four pointer 295 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. Now, Tim Invermont, what would you say the 296 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: bucket activity has been lately on a scale of one 297 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: to ten, I'm gonna put it pretty high. I'm gonna 298 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: put it around an eight or nine. Um. I just 299 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I've seen more scrapes lately than I've seen in many 300 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: prior years. And uh, you know what I witnessed on 301 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Saturday was certainly good, solid chasing activity from the deer 302 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: I was able to harvest. Well, Tim, you just brought 303 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: up scrapes there. Do you think those are active scrapes 304 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: or are you just saying that this has been maybe 305 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: a little more intense rot that there's a lot heavier 306 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: dear sign right now in the woods. Yeah. I think 307 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: that the scrapes are a little bit old, probably half 308 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: a week to a week old, based on what I 309 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: saw on our opener on Saturday. Um. Yeah, they just 310 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: looked at a few leaves in them, looked looked a 311 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit like they've just been h It hadn't been 312 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: tended to in a while. And I think that's because 313 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: the bucks are are either just cruising a little bit 314 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: more or actually with doves and actively pursuing doves at 315 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: the moment. Well, tell me more about that Saturday hunt 316 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: that you had in what was Vermont's gone opener there 317 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: where you tagged out. Uh, I was fortunate Saturday to 318 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: take the biggest buck I've ever taken. Um. It was 319 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say part skill just just being in the 320 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: right place based on the sign that I was seeing. Um, 321 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: but there was quite a bit of luck involved to this. Uh. 322 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: He came through following it though about and a half 323 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: hour before uh it got dark. Um, he was just 324 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: on her tail. And uh, you know, it was one 325 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: of those cases where I was just in the right 326 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: place at the right time, and I couldn't be happier 327 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: with the with the buck, I was able to kill 328 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: these great, really heavy deer not much of her act, 329 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: but he wasteen pounds dressed, which is which is a 330 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: really big deer for around here. So I'm I'm ecstatic. 331 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: And and to you that kind of buck activity too, 332 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: is is just fun. Um. And so it's a it's 333 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: a hunt I'll never forget. I'm sure it's great to 334 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: have my dad there with me, and and uh, like 335 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: I said something, I'll never forget. It sounds like you 336 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: had a great opening in the time. How about friends 337 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: in the area, what are they reporting for buck activity? 338 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm here and more the same. Uh, A couple of 339 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: friends were fortunate enough to tag out as well, and successful. 340 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: Its aren't higher round here. Um, but but I certainly 341 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: have heard of quite a few folks that have had 342 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: had good luck out there this past weekend. And uh, 343 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and just some beauties being taken for this area. Um. 344 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: You know, Vermont is not known for really massive raps. 345 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: That's just not what's growing around here. But a couple 346 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: really really almost non existent winners back to back has 347 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: contributed to some to some great antler growth. I would think, 348 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, instead of the deer just trying to survive, 349 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: the winner they were able to put some of that 350 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: energy into growing these instead of antlers. And uh, just 351 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: some great pictures. You've got people really excited around here. 352 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: It's right. So hunters who are having success in Vermont, 353 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: what do you think their strategy has been. Are they 354 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: looking for old buck sign and focusing on that? Are 355 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: they looking for dope betting? What do their techniques look like, um, 356 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: you know a lot of it around here, especially on 357 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: the opener um is pressure related. You know, there's a 358 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of people that hit the woods on the first weekend. 359 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of the friends that I know that 360 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: that had bucks come by them. We're more a result 361 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: of hunter pressure, I would say, UM. But others, you 362 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: know the same thing. They were just in feed to 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: horses or they had those um you know, bring a 364 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: buck by. Um, it's I wouldn't say it's nothing out 365 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: of the ordinary. I would I would say, through a 366 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: hunter that's having filled the tag yet if UM, I 367 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: wonder for that piece of advice to me, it was 368 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: just I just went I found I spent the whole 369 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: morning looking for, you know, the best sign I could 370 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: find line, and then I parked my easter right where 371 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: I found the best sign and and hope that a 372 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: doll would bring a buck through. And that's that's what happened. 373 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: I just I think right now, if you can find 374 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the those, eventually a buck's going to come through. Going forward, 375 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: then in this next week or so, what do you 376 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be. On the 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: skill of one to ten in Vermont, I think the 378 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: tracing is going to continue. Um. You know, we we 379 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: typically see the bulk of the breeding take place in 380 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: Vermont towards the end of November, and this not this 381 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: week but current, but the next week right around Thanksgiving. Um, 382 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: so I really think that that the bucks are still 383 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: going to be chasing for the next week. So if 384 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: if somebody can find, you know, where the doose are 385 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: and just wait him out, I think that's that's key. Um. So, 386 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: you know I would put it at the same same 387 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: rating I gave, you know, for for what I saw 388 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: last weekend, I think it's gonna be up in the 389 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: seven eight nine area for for buck movement, just Jason 390 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: was and trying to find them. All right, Tim, we'll 391 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: congrats on that great opener and thanks for joining me, 392 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: all right, thanks a lot. Before we get to our 393 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: next color though, let's positive thank our sponsors at White 394 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: Tail Properties. And this week with white Tail Properties, we 395 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: are joined by Dave Skinner, a land specialist out of Kentucky, 396 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: and Davey is going to be telling us about what 397 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: to look for when trying to make a property more affordable. 398 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: There's several things, um, you know. One of the big 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: ones I'm gonna look for something that uh, that's not 400 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: producing income. If I'm looking to get the per acre 401 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: price down. Um, you know, I'm gonna avoid things like 402 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: tillable uh, tillable ground because that drives a price up. 403 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Anytime something produces an income is gonna drive the price up. Also, 404 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: marketable timber, you've got to pay for that. You know. 405 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: At the gone or the days that you can buy 406 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: a piece of property, cut the timber off of and 407 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: walk away with the land and some cash, it just 408 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: doesn't happen anymore. Um. And you know in Kentucky we've 409 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: got um areas that have been strip mined for coal, 410 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: so that reclaimed cold ground frequently can sell you know, 411 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: literally half of what similar acreage would sell for in 412 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: the area. So reclaimed ground is is a great way 413 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: to get drowned down around a thousand dollars and acre um. 414 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, in the habitat on that stuff is phenomenal um. 415 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: And like I said, it's quite quite a bit cheaper 416 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: than other stuff in the area. Also, you know, maybe 417 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: someone has severed the mental rights in the past. Um, 418 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: sometimes that can get the price breaker down. Um. You know, 419 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: conservation easements, lack of road, frontage. All those things will 420 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: drive the prices of acreage down. So you know that's 421 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: you know, to save on the front end. That's the 422 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: way you do it. If you'd like to learn more 423 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and to see the properties that Dave currently has listed 424 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash skinner 425 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: that's s K I N N E R all right 426 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Enjoining me on theline next is the host of Buck Ventures, 427 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Danker. Now, Jeff in Kentucky, what would you said 428 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the buck activity has been lately on the skill of 429 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: one to ten? Oh man, I would say lately on 430 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: one to ten. I mean, mature bucks is about a two. Um, 431 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been in conducted for the last three days setting 432 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: all day sets and I've not seen anything older than 433 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: so it being a two that seems pretty low for midmember. 434 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: You must think that they're in lockdown right now? Yeah. Absolutely. 435 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: I am hunting a farm, a really good farm that 436 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: we're managing, and you know, we got some corn fields 437 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: and lots of hardwoods, and and um, I think they're 438 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: just locked down. I mean the dates line up with it, 439 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: and um, you know, just I would bet n they're 440 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: locked in. And so what is your strategy then during 441 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: this stage of the rout. My strategy with the lockdown 442 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: always is just to recognize that what you're dealing with. 443 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: But then just and and try to stay focused because 444 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: so many times you as a hunter, if you lose 445 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: that focus and you you lose a detail, and then 446 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: you you'll get that chance and I'd be ready for 447 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm doing is I'm just waiting it out. 448 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm still hunting the doose. I mean, that's 449 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: for we're supposed to do. This time. You're playing good wins, 450 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: But I'm setting all day. I'm staying all day and 451 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times in big deer when they break 452 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: away from them, those will be mid day and you'll 453 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: catch one of them suckers out sure enough looking. And 454 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: and then right when that happens, you know, have those 455 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: horns ready. When you see that big sucker by himself, 456 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: you can call him in a lot of times. So 457 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: will you do any other aggressive tactics as far as 458 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: decoying or moving into those hardwoods quite yet? Well, this 459 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: farm right here is uh, you know, I ain't saying 460 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: that's a wrong tactic on this farm. It's I got 461 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of numbers, and so if you go in 462 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: too deep whatever, you know, you're gonna run into a 463 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: lot of deer. You're gonna get those in the wrong 464 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: places and and the gig will be up. So I've 465 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: been just being careful and just um, I got a 466 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: little time. So uh, you know, weather is not great, 467 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: but when they break, you know, I'm a firm believer 468 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: if you have good access, if you play the wind 469 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: right and then put your time in setting all day, 470 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: you will get that opportunity of a big mature deer. Well, 471 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: with those deer being in lockdown, do you think there's 472 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: anything that can change for your favor besides the calendar day, 473 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: Like if we were to get a weather front or 474 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: any kind of moon phase right now? Yeah, I mean, 475 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, always what's cold. You know, you're always gonna 476 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: have uh you know, I always say this weather will 477 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: will will out the moon, it will out do everything. 478 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: So if you get weather, you get good dates, that's 479 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna help. But at the same time, when the big 480 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: deer get locked down, they're gonna be with that though 481 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: thor four days, So you gotta wait it out and 482 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: and you know, and not say that at any time 483 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: it can happen. One could break loose, but we we 484 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: got good hunting, uh, in the days ahead. A guy's 485 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: just got to get through this lockdown and and and 486 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: like sauld, keep your wits about you, because will drive 487 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: you crazy this time here. Do you think the signmaking 488 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: has gone cold? Then? As far as rubs and scrapes, yeah, 489 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's some frustration with some rubs 490 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: on some bucks and stuff. But as far as setting 491 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: over a scrape thinking there's gonna be a big deer 492 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: coming and freshing it up, you're you're probably wasting your 493 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: time right now, Jeff, what with it being locked out? 494 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like pretty tough hunting right now. But do 495 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: you think there's anything that can be done from a 496 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: hunter's perspective if you find some deer that are locked 497 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: down right now? Well, I mean, you know, the one 498 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: thing as a bowl hunter, you know when you see them, 499 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: don't be scared to to do a spot and stock 500 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: on a white tail. You know, I know that's not 501 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: a typical type deal. But when you get that buck 502 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: locked down, all you have to do is make sure 503 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: that that you don't spook that dough. You can literally 504 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: walk up in that buck and be watching you. If 505 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: you don't spook that though, you can walk for a 506 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: shoot him. So I mean that's something to look out 507 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: for and just don't be scared to try that because 508 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: it's worked many times for hunters going forward. Then in 509 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: the next week or so, what do you think that 510 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: bucks activity is going to be on a scale of one? 511 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Detend in Kentucky. Well, I think I would say it 512 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: would be I would I would want to say a 513 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: seven or eight, and I would say that if we 514 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: were gonna get cold weather, but we're not, so I'm 515 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna stick to probably around the five. I mean there, 516 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: I think there'll be times of a six. Um, you know, 517 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: maybe some cooler tip mornings, but we're gonna have some 518 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: class cover, gonna holding heat and you know, so I'm 519 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna stick with that. And again, I can't stress enough 520 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: to all the hunters out there. They need to be 521 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: setting all day because you never know when that good 522 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: activity is gonna happen. All right, Jeff, Well, I hope 523 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: you get that cold snap and good luck going forward. 524 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, Thank you so much, appreciate it 525 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: alright and joining us on the line. Last is Shane 526 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: Maury in Idaho, the founder of Bone maniacs now Shane 527 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: in Idaho, what would you say the bucket activity has 528 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'm 529 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to go with five on this one. Yeah, five, 530 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: meaning that you know, you get several different topographies in 531 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: in Idaho, you know in the unit wise as well 532 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: and from what I know in the units, Uh take 533 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: for instance, um, the ones that I'm real familiar with, 534 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty three, thirty six, sixty sixty five. And 535 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: then the upper portion of the Panhandle of Idaho. Which 536 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: of all the units that I typically hunt, Um, you 537 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: know for for white tail, Um, it's it's been hotter cold, 538 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: um pay for instance, We're to start with the with 539 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: the Panhandle, And maybe it has something to do with 540 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: the weather, because um, you know, you have different resources. 541 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: Everybody's got their opinions. UM. I'm usually trying to go 542 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: by by what I see when I'm hunting, and and um, 543 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: you know, put things together on on on what I 544 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: need to do to punch that tag as they say 545 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: up in the Panhandle. You know, a lot of the 546 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: weathers came in pretty quick, pretty much how it did 547 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: last year. I think the the road. Activity is just 548 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: getting started up there. Um from the signs we're seeing 549 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: take for insts of the lands, on the on the 550 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: on the on the bucks that we're seeing on video, 551 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: you know they're still dry. Um. Over in sixty four 552 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: and sixty five, you know, we're starting to see a 553 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: little bit of pushing from the amateur books and UM. 554 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, I would say any day now that things 555 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: are going to get really turned on over there. Uh 556 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: up in the thirty three unit um around crowds you 557 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: get into that area, UM, I would say you're probably 558 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: more along the lines of UM, you know activity is 559 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: is that is peak? Um? You know, as far as 560 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: that's concerned, so well, I know you had a lot 561 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: of the mid West as well. How would you say 562 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: mid November is different in Idaho versus someplace like Ohio 563 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: or Indiana? And how do your tactics differ? Sure, I 564 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: mean as far as hunting the Midwest and then hunting 565 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: in Idaho as well. Um, there's a lot of uh, 566 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I think things that come into play as far as 567 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: the road is concerned. Um. For one of the extreme 568 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: temperatures that you're going to have from you know, the 569 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Midwest to Idaho is take for instance, So I just 570 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: came into to Indiana and you know, the temperatures have 571 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: been notatively warm, you know, and the movement in deer 572 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: in general has been really down. And the agriculture a 573 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of the they had a wet season. Um and 574 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: you know the corn uh still standing on pretty much 575 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: addacent farm that I was honey, Uh, that has just 576 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: went down. So I'm seeing more deer activity um in 577 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: the past few days. As far as Idaho, I mean, 578 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: as far as the AGAs concerned, you know, there's not 579 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: really a lot that's you know that they're gonna be uh, 580 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, as far as movement is concerned, and um, 581 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: you know when when that uh you know, as a 582 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: as a key factor for you know, huneme tactics, um, 583 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, pench points and things like that, as far 584 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: as you know where you're gonna set up stands if 585 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: you're a stand hunter, um tactics. As far as you know, 586 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Western guys spot and stock, 587 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, the white tail uh and really um but 588 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: as far as you know spot and stock, de city 589 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: was forced in the Midwest on these little pocket drawls 590 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and deep ravines. That's that's holding good, good um. You know, 591 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of leaves. It's nearly ninety nine nine 592 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: percent and possible before you to do any type of 593 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: tactics for that. But it's pretty much putting up on 594 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: good trails and and open for the best true canavas 595 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: um and and doing a lot of uh, you know, 596 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: if it isn't rut or pre rut um, you're gonna 597 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: have to study, you know, a lot of the deer movement. 598 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: If produce it a buck in trying to get a 599 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: good glance of, you know, what his glands are looking like. 600 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: If they're not black, then obviously an immature buck is 601 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: going to be starting to run a lot earlier, um 602 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: than what a good um mature buck is going to 603 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: be on his feet. Typically he's gonna be pretty much 604 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: a nocturnal animal until those doughs are really in full swing. Uh, Pesterston, 605 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: there's no reason for him, you know, um to be 606 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: on his feet. He's pretty much call ittis. Uh. Those 607 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: ammateure bucks do all the work for him. Well going forward, 608 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so in Idaho, what 609 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: do you think the buck activ is going to be 610 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, um, I would 611 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: say it's probably gonna be picking up. I would probably 612 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: have to guess it's gonna be somewhere right around it 613 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: eight or nine. Um, you know as far as that, 614 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: since then, a lot of the intil of the we've gathered, 615 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: it should be a much better week. Um. One of 616 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: our staff actually is over in sixty Fires right now, 617 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: and um, he's giving me some really good reports that 618 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, um, and I'm really pulling for him. So 619 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: he's got his eyes on a good buck that that 620 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: they've been keeping track of, but they haven't been able 621 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: to locate him there just because mainly, you know, as 622 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: far as the the open country that they're dealing with, 623 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: there is some mag there that they're hunting on, but 624 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're going to be ground hunters as 625 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: far as you know the muzzle eyer tag. So UM, 626 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm really thinking that he should be in fullcing the 627 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: bread over there. Well. Thanks for joining me, Shane, and 628 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: good luck to you and the rest of the Bone 629 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Maniacs team. Thanks Spencer, and that concludes this week's episode 630 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: of Wired Hunts Radio. We'd like to think our sponsors 631 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: at Sitka, white Tail Properties, white Tail Institute, un Terra Matthews, Maven, Yettie, 632 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: and Trophy Ridge, and we thank you guys for listening. 633 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: November is a really exciting time as a lot of 634 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: states have their gun seasons started to open, as well 635 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: as South Dakota, and I have another rifle opener coming 636 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: up here on Saturday. 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