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Speaker 1: hoops Tonight we got We got about forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: because I have literally sat in front of a television

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Speaker 1: And so it's And I know you travel a lot, Jason,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, so I've been in kind of a Pacific

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Speaker 2: I really want to spend some time in Colorado and

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So let's start with the NBA, the Lakers, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of when a team is losing,

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron's still great, but I don't think he

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Speaker 1: fits with Luca and Austin Reeves and they Lebron's got

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Speaker 1: I think Lucas scored thirty plus in all of their wins,

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Speaker 1: which I think is an NBA record. That's what the

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Speaker 1: court offense. They have multiple ball creators. Outside of Marcus Smart,

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Speaker 1: Does this Laker team gifted offensively? Do we feel differently today?

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Speaker 2: They are now generating margin in several key areas now

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Speaker 2: They were seventeenth and steals pre All Star Break, eleventh

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Speaker 2: Pre All Star break, the Lakers were losing the points

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Speaker 2: So JJ deserves a lot of credit for just getting

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Speaker 1: and JJ was talented. I think they're a much more

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Speaker 1: JJ has reminded them that, hi, Lebron', you don't fit Luca.

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Speaker 1: But when I watch them play, there's real They're very intentional.

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Speaker 1: the art of coaching. Phil Jackson, the art of coaching superstars.

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Speaker 1: And you know it. You you know, he's also, as

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Like it's actually crazy because his relationship with

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Speaker 2: And so he's really like even when Luke Canard hit

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a level of focus and engagement from Lebron

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Speaker 2: So you have a Lebron that is doing things defensively, fighting,

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Speaker 2: like even that late play last night he forced the

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Speaker 2: And it's like, I haven't seen Lebron flying around denying

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Speaker 2: just made this team like this team calling this team

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think, you know Lebron is always and

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Speaker 1: I say this respectfully, is that Lebron's very aware of

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, like you talked about the

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Speaker 2: And like I know that, you know, you hear a

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Speaker 2: Watching his footage like I was a Lebron fan. I

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Speaker 3: It's just right.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain there's a certain aura in a history

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Speaker 3: And I think I think.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that with Lebron almost manifest and and I

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Speaker 1: Also, there was no social media, so part of what

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Speaker 1: people go to the theater to watch your work. Don't go

430
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: on Johnny Carson, don't go on Letterman, make him go

431
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: to the theater. I don't know if Michael thought about that,

432
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: but you had to either buy Michael's shoes or go

433
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: to his game. That's how you heard saw Michael's greatness.

434
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: Lebron's everywhere. And so I do think there's there's a

435
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: mystery that that there's nothing Lebron could have done about that.

436
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: It's just there's a mystery about Michael and a uniqueness

437
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: where I can watch the Laker game, go to YouTube,

438
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: watch the highlights, go to TikTok watch the extra highlights,

439
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: like with Michael. Think about it. I mean, when Michael

440
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: first came into the league, you couldn't watch their games.

441
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: You didn't get I mean, if he played certain nights,

442
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: Michael scores forty eight eight, How do unless Sports Center

443
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: gave me like three baskets. I couldn't even watch the

444
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: highlights until the playoffs, So I don't think you can,

445
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: you know. I just think Michael had, in a strange way,

446
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: a privacy advantage that made every time you saw him

447
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: play special. That's the hy Bronze fault.

448
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: I'd even extend that to what's happening on the court

449
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: in the sense that like, can you imagine if Michael

450
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: Jordan's to Washington Wizard's years took place during Twitter and

451
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 2: every time he took a possessions, every time he got

452
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: back cut, every time he didn't box out, every like, Like,

453
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: that's the crazy part is Lebron has had his entire

454
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: like age thirty eight, thirty nine, forty forty one seasons,

455
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: be micro analyzed on a possession to possession basis through

456
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 2: clips on Twitter, and it's like the reality is is

457
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: we're seeing something completely unprecedented for a guy his age,

458
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: but because it's being micro analyzed in many ways, it's like, Oh,

459
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: here are all the ways that Lebron's dropping the ball.

460
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: Here are all the ways that Lebron is not coming

461
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: through for his team, And I almost feel bad for

462
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: him in that sense, because I just can I can

463
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: only imagine if I microanalyzed every possession of Michael's Wizard's tenure,

464
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: how ugly it would have been at times.

465
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Well, I've always said there's one thirty for thirty. There's

466
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: one great sports documentary left, and it's Michael Jordan with

467
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: the Wizards. His teammates hated him, the coaches hated him.

468
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's doing They'll do Andre the Giant, They'll

469
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: do thirty for thirties on International Soccer Stars. I watched

470
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: him play twice live with the Wizards, and you could

471
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: the body language of his teammates. Everybody hated him. And

472
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: I also think Michael's a little like Marlon Brando. Is

473
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando the best actor ever? I don't know, but

474
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: he's largely viewed as one of the first method actors

475
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: where you go deep into the character right like, and

476
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: he had such influence over Pacino Bob de Niro. You

477
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: could argue Bob de Niro is greater than Marlon Brandol.

478
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Brando is considered like the start of method acting. Like

479
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: if you watch acting pre Brando and post Brando, acting's

480
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: better post Brando. It's less mechanical, I mean you feel

481
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: like the people, which must be an incredible, daunting experience

482
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: where you like become the character, like you live the character.

483
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: And so Brando. When you talk about acting, like Brando's

484
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: here and then it starts with like Ralph Findes or

485
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Christian Bale, it starts after Brando. I don't necessarily think

486
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: Christian Bale's less of an actor, but there is something

487
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: to be said about Brando's the creator or the amplifier

488
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: of method acting. Michael was not only great. I mean

489
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: there was a pre Michael. It was called David Thompson.

490
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: I watched him at North Carolina State. There was Doctor j.

491
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: I'll argue, if you have a minute YouTube clip of

492
00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: every player ever, Doctor Jay's highlights are more amazing than Jordan's.

493
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: They don't even look human. I mean, it was like

494
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: a spider playing basketball. It's like the hand size. His

495
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: college stuff at UMass is like the hell is that?

496
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I haven't even seen anything like that.

497
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: I've still never seen a reverse layup like the Doctor

498
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: J reverse. No one can replicate it. It doesn't look any

499
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: it just looks dunk.

500
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he swoops in and dugs with no dribble or

501
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: one drible you're like, what, So, it's like one of

502
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: those things where Michael was the first basketball player, the shoes,

503
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: the brand, the commercials. He wasn't the first guy that

504
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: hung in the air. David Thompson, David Thompson and Michael

505
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: and Doctor J predated him. But Michael was like good looking,

506
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: brilliantly dressed, and let's be honest, six for six in

507
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: the finals. It just it's mythical. It's magical. And because

508
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of Michael, I mean there's

509
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: a handful of pictures of Michael sitting in a hotel

510
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: room by himself, smoking a cigar. You didn't really know

511
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: what he did until tip off. You know, he just

512
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: kind of do his own thing. So and and and

513
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: you are right. If he was with a Wizards, I

514
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: mean it was he was not that vertical a play.

515
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: He had a Falloway jumper with the Wizards. He wasn't

516
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: jumping over dudes, he was falling back.

517
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: Lebron was sixth and MVP voting last year, Like it's

518
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: it's Lebron was sixth and MVP voting and like at

519
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: age forty, like and I just I just can't even imagine.

520
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: It's it's all.

521
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy to me how often those two stints

522
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: are compared to each other. And it's like, this is

523
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: not the same. What Lebron is doing right now has

524
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: never been done before.

525
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: So I got into this discussion with a friend. I

526
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: didn't I watched sports because even in Angry Ela, you can,

527
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, watch domestic TV. So I watched. Thursday Friday,

528
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: I sat and watch a lot of college basketball on

529
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: the beach and and I was texting a buddy about

530
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: some NBA stuff, and we were talking about Yannis yannice Is.

531
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: So he's a Knicks fan, my friend, and he said,

532
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: what would you about for Yannis? And I said, Yannie

533
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: is fascinating. Like certain people, Tom Brady and Lebron just

534
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: don't get hurt much. They just they're just age brilliantly.

535
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: And because they're so committed to being in shape. I mean,

536
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence. Anthony Davis got hurt a lot.

537
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: He was rarely in elite shape, right, and so but

538
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Yannis appears to be in great shape. He increasingly gets hurt.

539
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: His game doesn't age particularly well. So I told my friend,

540
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: I said, well, Yannis can't shoot outside of sixteen feet

541
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: so he needs the ball. Well, I don't want him

542
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: taking the ball to Brunson's hands, Like, absolutely not. So

543
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: can he play off ball a lot? And I'm like, actually,

544
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: the guys that can, you'd have to give up to

545
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: get Yannis. And I thought, I just kind of a

546
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: thinking piece on Yannis. Not everybody aged is the same way.

547
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about this. You and I maybe

548
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: have a middle coffin I have about Cam Newton did

549
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: not age well because he was hyper athletics. I don't

550
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: think wesk Westbrook is aged particularly well. Steph the shooter

551
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: age well, Kobe the shooter age well. But hyper athletic

552
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: players in all sports don't necessarily age well. And I

553
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: I said to him, and the honest I said, yeah,

554
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: I'd give up probably three firsts, but god, I'd hate

555
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: to give up og. I can'd be a heart. But

556
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: that's what that's what Milwaukee wants. What is the value?

557
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Because when you make a trade like that, if you're

558
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: giving up three first round picks, then he has to

559
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: be great for those three years. You can't give up

560
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: picks for four years and you get two great years.

561
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: What is Yannis worth today for the next four years,

562
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: you run the Knicks Jason timp What do you give

563
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: up for him?

564
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, the league tells you the answer to this sort

565
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: of thing, right, Like, I thought it was really fascinating

566
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: the teams that were in on Yannis when he became

567
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: available around the deadline. There was the one take Minnesota

568
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: and set them to the side, because that was the

569
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: one team where I was like, why, why, why does

570
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Minnesota want Yiannis? Like you've got this twenty three year

571
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: old guy that is the first dude who's ever kind

572
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: of replicated some of MJ's auray, like why are we

573
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: trying to pair this dude with a mid like an

574
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: early thirties.

575
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: Power forward that's falling apart?

576
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: But you look at Golden State completely desperate, literally no

577
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: young player on the horizon that could take them into

578
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: the future. Just Steph Curry who's going to be thirty

579
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: eight years old, who just turned thirty eight in March, Right,

580
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: And then you had Miami who's been destined to go

581
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: nowhere for the last several years, and New York who

582
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: everybody knows deep down because of Karl Anthony Towns and

583
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brunson probably can't win, right, so like those were

584
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: the other teams that were in on it, right and

585
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: like so the lower leg injuries freaked.

586
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Me out a little bit.

587
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: And the outside of the twenty twenty one series where

588
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: he won wins the championship, right in twenty twenty two,

589
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: where I will say that second round series against Boston

590
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite star playoff performances ever because

591
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: that was the year that Middleton was her and Yanni's

592
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: just almost single handedly beat that Celtics team, and Yiannis

593
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: deserves a ton of credit for that, But he hasn't

594
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 2: played in a second round playoff series since then, Like

595
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: he's missed playoff games with injury. He's had additional playoff

596
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: rounds where he's been healthy, but hasn't been able to

597
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: take his team out of the first round as recently

598
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: as last year, right. So, like, as we've seen time

599
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: and time again, Yannis is really really good, but he's

600
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: clearly on the either the very bottom end of the

601
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: top tier superstar tier, Like you're not going to find

602
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: a single GM in the league who's gonna take him

603
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: over Luca Shay Wemby Yo Gitch, Like he's clearly below

604
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: those guys and not even in the tier below, and

605
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: these lower body injuries they just keep piling up. It's

606
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: calf strain here, knee injury there, calf strain here, knee

607
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: injury there. And so when you factor all of that in,

608
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: he is now officially an extremely high risk asset. And

609
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: so you the whole point with Golden State, for example,

610
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: is like they I think they put four first round

611
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: picks on the table. For example, you put four first

612
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: round picks on the table for Yannis and you bring

613
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: Giannis in and he gets hurt and you lose in

614
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: the second round. Everyone's like, well, we had to we

615
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: had to go for it. Like like what were you

616
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: gonna do? Lose with Steph by himself or lose with

617
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Steph with Jannis? Right, So like you have no real choice.

618
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Miami again not going anywhere New York if they were

619
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: able to pull off a Carl Anthony town swap. Now

620
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: it's interesting to your point og Nnobe. You get rid

621
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: of og Nanobi and you make a move for Yannis

622
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: and Yannis gets hurt, that team is getting killed with

623
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, Michale Bridges, and Jalen Brunson. So the

624
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: risk factor is extremely high there. Now, if I was

625
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: the Knicks, I would include an ognnob just simply be

626
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: for the same reason what I was talking about with

627
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Golden State. What do you have to lose if you're

628
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: the Knicks, Right, Like, yes, og Nanobe is this deeply

629
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: valuable role player, but he's a deeply valuable role player

630
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: that makes a hell of a lot of money, ties

631
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: up a huge chunk of your cap. And again, if

632
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't, if I'm a Knicks, I'm looking at the

633
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: East right now, and I'm like, do I think we

634
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: can beat Cleveland?

635
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

636
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: Do I think we can beat Boston? Yeah? Do I

637
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: think we can beat Detroit? Yeah?

638
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: But like, can we beat two of them? It gets

639
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 2: a little more sketchy. If I'm a Knicks fan, I'm

640
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: not going into this playoff run thinking we're finals bound.

641
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking maybe, like we can, you know what

642
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: I mean? So, like, at this point, if I'm the

643
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Knicks and it gets to the summertime and I have

644
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: the ability to turn og in and obi in a

645
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: first round pick into Giannis, I do it. But it's

646
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: simply because of the fact that I don't think that

647
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: team necessarily has any sort of clearly defined ceiling that

648
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: they're missing out on if they give them up. But

649
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: where I draw the line is like Minnesota. So for example,

650
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: like if I'm Minnesota, Jade McDaniels keeps getting better every years.

651
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: He's become a very good three point shot.

652
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, I said a month ago, I said,

653
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers need about three players in the offseason. And

654
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: then I said before I went on vacation, I said,

655
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: if you just put Jaden McDaniels on the Lakers, doesn't

656
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: need the ball, catch and shoes excellent, guard the other

657
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: team weak, defender excellent. I'm like, if you just put

658
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: him on the Laker roster, you're like, oh, that team

659
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: could make the finals. Like like, so it's I'm glad

660
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: you mentioned it because I'm like that guy is There's

661
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: always a player in the NBA. Klay Thompson used to

662
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: be this that doesn't need the ball, can give you

663
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: twenty four and any night, that would work with every

664
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: roster in the league. It was Klay Thompson for about

665
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: eight years, defended catch and shoot, good teammate, not a

666
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: and would defend like real players. Jayden McDaniels has become

667
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: that guy, like he works with every roster in the

668
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: league overnight.

669
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Like.

670
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: And the difference between the New York thing and the

671
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota thing is like, if you really dig back in

672
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: NBA history, there are exceptions like Boston, for example, they

673
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: didn't have a real number one guy, but they had

674
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: two guys that were close. Tatum and Brown were both

675
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: like right there right Like, if I'm New York, like

676
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson is clearly off of that top tier. So like,

677
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: if I'm getting Yannis, my whole thought process is Yannis

678
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: gives me a guy who can go against the guys

679
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: in the NBA. But if I'm Minnesota, I already have

680
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: that guy. He's aunt, he's ascending. He's not twenty seven

681
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: to twenty eight, Oh my gosh, we have a three

682
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: year window here and then it's over. He's ascending, getting

683
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: way better every year, and probably in the next three

684
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: to four year is going to be competing for the

685
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: best player in the world title. That's the type of

686
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: talent that Anthony Edwards is right. So like with Minnesota

687
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: as an example, that's why, by the way, that's why

688
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: san Antonio didn't call on Yannis. San Antonio is like, no, thanks,

689
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: we're good. You know what, I mean, we got our guy,

690
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: we have the roster, we have the pieces we need

691
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: to be malleable and flexible over the course of the

692
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: next few seasons. I just think the line is because

693
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: of his injury history and because he's never really truly

694
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: been as good as the best guys. Because of that,

695
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: I think I draw the line at any sort of

696
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: young team that already has in ascending young superstar, like Minnesota.

697
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Let's been about fifteen minutes on March Madness. I picked

698
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Florida and Michigan to meet in the final, Michigan to

699
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: win close. I still feel really good about that. Yaxlendenborg,

700
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: who's a transfer. Nil just a long runs the floor,

701
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: can hit a three, six, nine, two forty. I mean,

702
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: you can tell how much better college bad. And I'm

703
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: glad the announcers have brought this up because over the

704
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: last three years with Nil and the American economy is

705
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: much bigger than the European economy, We've got about thirty

706
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: guys playing college basketball that weren't around four years ago.

707
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: They were staying in Europe. Well, now we just go

708
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: buy them. So, I mean, Michigan has a front line

709
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: that looks like an NBA front. Michigan's gigantic that didn't

710
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: exist in college basketball like five years ago. Teams just

711
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: didn't look like that. Now you can just go buy

712
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: Europeans the transfer portal, you can go buy size. So

713
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: I think Michigan's the best team, but Florida is really good.

714
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: But the most interesting player to me is Darius Acuff

715
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: from Arkansas, who is a just a hyper athletic six'

716
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: two guard listed at six y three closer to six to.

717
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Two But i'm watching him With John. Calipari he's always

718
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: been a great recruiter and does a pretty good job

719
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: of developing. Players And i'm happy For john because we've

720
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: had a contentious. Relationship But john can recruit And john can,

721
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: coach and Overnight arkansas's. Excellent but As i'm watching A,

722
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: cuff AND i mean he jumps off the, television you're

723
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: watching a, game it's, like what in they that you

724
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: can argue After Darren peterson you could take him number.

725
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: Two there's an absolute argument for. That boozers not great

726
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: athletically byu gets bounced. Quick peterson's going number one because

727
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: there's so much. Special but what's interesting About acuff small

728
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: not really a willing defender and needs the ball and

729
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: AS i watched, him and this is just off the,

730
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: cuff but my comp is a little bit Of, westbrook better,

731
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: shooter but a little bit Of, westbrook a little bit

732
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Of Trey, young but a bigger strong he's a stronger.

733
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Athlete he's a stronger. Athlete but my question is would

734
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: he be a GOOD nba? Teammate now we know THE

735
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: nba doesn't go through six two. Guards you don't win

736
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: titles that. Way but he is probably the best athlete

737
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: in college. Basketball and he's exhilarating to. Watch he's got

738
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: like like If Jahn morant would have been, Mature Jahn

739
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: morant would sell Out. Arenas he just couldn't get his act.

740
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: Together how do you think a cuff as a pro

741
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: works BECAUSE i look at him AND i think he.

742
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Could he is not willing to, defend and that's what's

743
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: worn out people On Trey, young like he's just not

744
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: even willing to d. Up and you, know eighty two game,

745
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: schedule you're giving up thirty eight on your, End like

746
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: it creates, Resentment like how does he translate to THE

747
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: nba beyond?

748
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: Points so the defensive question marks are real AND i

749
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: think that's what makes him clearly off of that top.

750
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Group Like devonce And peterson are going to go one

751
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: too in some. ORDER i personally would even take debonsa number,

752
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: one but some, people a lot of people do Have

753
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: peterson over, him but those two will go one. TWO

754
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people are high On. Boozer i'm nowhere

755
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: near as high On boozer as everyone. Else everyone keeps

756
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: telling me That boozer is this like bulleyball player that

757
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: has that standing field that can like see the. Floor

758
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: BUT i keep seeing him get surprised by double teams

759
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: and turn the basketball.

760
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: Over And i've worked on the first game of the.

761
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: Tournament, Yeah i'm not as high On.

762
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Booze that's not to say that he he'll go no

763
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: lower than, four but Like i'm not as high On

764
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: boozer as everyone else. Is you could Argue acuff as

765
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: high as number. Three the thing With acuff is if

766
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: he didn't have these major defensive question, marks he would

767
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: be a candidate for number, one because he's one of

768
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: the most well rounded guard prospects to ever come through college.

769
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: Basketball there's usually some sort of imbalance in the sense

770
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: that you'll get a guard Like John, morian for, example

771
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: that is an outstanding to the basket, athlete.

772
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: But that cannot.

773
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: Shoot or you'll Get Trey young who's like this outstanding

774
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: passer and perimeter, score but that is extremely slight and

775
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: struggles to beat people off the dribble and doesn't get

776
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: to the basket. Much acuff's got all of that in.

777
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Spades like he gets to the rim six times a,

778
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: game which is an enormous, number shoots fifty nine percent

779
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: when he gets, there which for a small guard in

780
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: college spacing is. Amazing and then he's a dead eye

781
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: shooter from every spot on the. Floor he's forty nine

782
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: percent on catch and shoot, threes that's, insane forty percent

783
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: on pull up, threes really solid mid range, player three

784
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: to one, assist the turnover, ratio very good passing. Guard

785
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: like the dude's got all of the three level. Scoring

786
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: and so in the MODERN, nba If i'm a coach

787
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: or A Gm i'm looking at it is, like is

788
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: this a guy THAT i can run a bunch of

789
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: action through a bunch of ball. Screens then The acuff

790
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: also is every bit is resilient in one on ones

791
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: like straight ISOs as he is in ball screens Like Trey,

792
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: young for, example needs a screen to get. Open Like

793
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: Trey young's biggest question mark in THE nba is if

794
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: you can, switch he's done because he can't beat people

795
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: one on. One acuff can beat people one on. One

796
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: so like he is so well rounded on, OFFENSE i

797
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: would take a chance on him IF i was IN

798
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: nbagm at number, three AND i wouldn't worry too much

799
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: about the defensive. Stuff the main thing with the defensive

800
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: stuff that gives me just just a tiny bit of

801
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: optimism is one he does have some decent physical, tools

802
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: like he's got long arms for a small, guard like

803
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: he's got like about a six five, wingspan which isn't too.

804
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: Bad and he's very very.

805
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Fast the reason why that matters IS nba teams have

806
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: been learning how to protect small guards in their defensive

807
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: schemes for years. Now and this is Not luca where

808
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: he's so slow that you can't run some of the

809
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: advanced schemes to protect. Him he's so fast that you

810
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: can hedge and recover with. Him you can trust him

811
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: to make defensive rotations potentially in the, future and SO

812
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: i would bet on him becoming at least a guy

813
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: that you can put into a defense and be okay

814
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: and trust those offensive gifts to shine through.

815
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Well and the other thing Is steph was never a.

816
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Defender magic didn't defend the good gms in this. League

817
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: when you get a literally he'd be a top FIVE

818
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: nba offensive player within two years in the. LEAGUE i

819
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: mean he's literally that. SPECIAL i mean there is there

820
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: is A westbrook feel to. Him you're Like, jesus he

821
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: could play other sports like he is just he is just.

822
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Insane but he can he can, shoot AND i think

823
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: there is it's it's instructive that you say. This he

824
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: can catch and. SHOOT a lot of great. SHOOT a

825
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: lot of athletic guys that can shoot are rhythm. Shooters

826
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: they need the ball right. Right catch and shoots an

827
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: art that tells, me, generally if you can catch and,

828
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: shoot you have a good, form you like to, shoot.

829
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: You, know it's very. Mechanical yeah, Yeah and.

830
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: So that tells, Me, okay he can catch and shoot

831
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot of great At Derek rose not a catch

832
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: and shoot guy in his. Prime he needed to be in,

833
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: rhythm saying With John wall the good gms know Very

834
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: dallas actually figure this out very quick With. Luca All,

835
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: right we need we need. Length we need rim protectors in.

836
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Length let's protect our. Star this is What Bob myers

837
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: understood With Steph, curry like we need. Length that's Why

838
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Kevin durant we all talked. Offense kevin was a great

839
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: fit Andre, igwoodala but length Around Steph Curry clay protected

840
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: him for. Years you, know the Batman Robin clay was

841
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: a great defensive. Player SO i just find WHEN i

842
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: watch A, CUFF i just it's just like man stuff like,

843
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: this just you just don't see players like. That this

844
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: draft is really there three, guys the first three guy A, Cuff,

845
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: peterson THE byu. Kid they would be number one in

846
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: the last five. Drafts like they're at all remarkable. Talents,

847
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Okay so the number of double digit seeds winning in

848
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen was. Ten the last two years combined it's.

849
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: Nine so it's obviously the nil money has allowed The

850
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: michigans and The Michigan states and The dukes to go

851
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: to like A uab or a second tier program and

852
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: just steal they're one great. Player so you can see

853
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: it's very top heavy. Tournament BUT i was thinking about

854
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: this is, that and we're kind of banging on. It college,

855
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Basketball i've had a blast watch in the. Tournament the

856
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: truth is almost every. SPORT i, mean we think of

857
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: THE nfl as sort of, bulletproof but for twenty years

858
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: The patriots dominated, it and then for about seven The chiefs.

859
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Did that's why this Year's Super bowl was still. Random

860
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: is that what's happening to college basketball is what happened To.

861
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Tech is what's Happened hollywood over the last seven, years

862
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: The avengers dominant. Sequels it's what's happened to the almost

863
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: every sport unless you legislate. Against it's what's happened to.

864
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Tennis it's what happened during The. Olympics it's what happens

865
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: to you, know the top international soccer? Leagues is it

866
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: the top twelve to fifteen percent. Dominate they're either better,

867
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: capitalized they have geographical, advantages they have brand. Advantages so

868
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of, like, well we don't see the. Upsets

869
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: my take, is tell me the sport we get all the, upsets,

870
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: Right Like serena dominated for two, decades and so it

871
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: doesn't to. ME i always Thought March, madness there was

872
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of mythology to. It you, know there wasn't

873
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: a lot of sixteen, fifteen fourteen thirteen's winning maybe once a,

874
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: weekend does? It does it puncture the excitement for? YOU i,

875
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: MEAN i still like watching big. BRANDS i think there's

876
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: MORE nba bodies now than maybe. Ever i've enjoyed the

877
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: hell out of. IT i, don't, WELL i watched For

878
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Kentucky Michigan, state LIKE i don't watch it For Coastal.

879
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: CAROLINA i don't watch it For High. POINT i Don't

880
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: does it bother?

881
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: You you still get the one or two games in the

882
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: first round with like The Sienna duke, game even Though

883
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: sanna didn't, win was still highly. Entertaining any sort of

884
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: any sort of singular basketball game can just get weird

885
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: for one reason or, another like camboos are struggling the

886
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: way that he, did Or sienna's shooting as well from

887
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: three as they did in the first. Half like there's

888
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: still enough variance to provide the. EXCITEMENT i was literally

889
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: talking about this with my wife, Yesterday LIKE i remember

890
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: everybody complaining so much for so long about players getting,

891
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: paid and now they're all getting, paid And i'm, like

892
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: this still is.

893
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: Awesome i'm Still i'm still having.

894
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: FUN i don't, know look at, it it's still it

895
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: still is an incredible, product, Right and we do have

896
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: to talk about just how insane college basketball players are

897
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: getting in terms of the skill and the talent. Level

898
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: it's JUST i was watching that High point Versus arkansas

899
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: game yesterday And i'm, like this basketball game is remarkably,

900
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: entertaining and everybody on this floor can. Shoot everybody on

901
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: the floor is a freak. Athlete everybody on the floor can.

902
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: Dribble it's just it's. Outrageous BUT i think you hit

903
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: the nail on the. Head, like just like in any other,

904
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: industry over, time as the years go, by the entities

905
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: at the top kind of just figure out how to, dominate,

906
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: Right they figure, out this is what works in this.

907
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Industry this is how we kill our, competitors this is

908
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: how we stay in front of the changes that are

909
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: taking place in the. Industry, similarly in college basketball through

910
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: the transfer portal especially and that nil, money the talent

911
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: is just basically naturally filtering towards the. Top AND i

912
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: would take it a step, further Like sienna's head coach

913
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: just signed a. Deal it's going to Become syracuse as head. Coach,

914
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: Right so like the coaches filter towards the, top the

915
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: same thing goes with just basketball. Strategy all of the

916
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: best teams with the most talent also have the best,

917
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: coaches so they do all the little over. Time we figured, out,

918
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: right we figured out transition basketball is more efficient than

919
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: half court. Basketball so we should all just be pushing

920
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: the ball at the floor as much as. Possible we

921
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: should all be taking more. Threes, now there are some

922
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: teams that have gone against. That florida In, arizona for,

923
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: example don't take a ton of, threes so there are counter.

924
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Examples but people are shooting more threes than ever. Before

925
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: there's more ball and player, movement like the game is

926
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: getting perfected at the, top which is making it harder

927
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: for the bottom to. Compete and, honestly, again AS i,

928
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: mentioned it's not causing the product to be any less.

929
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: ENTERTAINING i am having so much fun watching these, games

930
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: like it's been a basketball renaissance in my house over

931
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: the last few. Days it's been unbelievable to.

932
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Watch, YEAH i the size of. TEAMS i, mean Col

933
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: baptist had two seven footers like Col, baptist which is

934
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: off the freeway And, Riverside. California it's, like you, know

935
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: it's like a for profit. UNIVERSITY i went to their.

936
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Roster i'm, like jaesos seven foot seven to, two six

937
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: eleven six,' ten, i'm like what the? Other final wrap

938
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: it up. With this my Friend Is Mark. FUGH gonzaga I.

939
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: Love mark so they got Beat. By texas they didn't shoot. The,

940
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: three well last couple of years they've gotten bounced in

941
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: the second round and there was a there have been

942
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: some pushback on, you know is it time to Move Off?

943
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Mark fugh it might take. HIS okay i Actually Watched

944
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: john stockton in college come to, My College Eastern, washington

945
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: university and scored forty two POINTS. ON us i was

946
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: broadcasting the game for a. Student Station john condon was the.

947
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Other guard condon was his Name And, john Stockton but

948
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: stockton was just forty Two Against. EASTERN washington i was

949
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: There Before. Mark fugh they won three tournament games and

950
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: they were slightly better than. Five hundred now they win

951
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: eighty six percent of their games and have forty five.

952
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Tournament wins and remember this is a state and A, Region, Montana, Idaho,

953
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: washington oregon that doesn't produce a lot of high end,

954
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: Basketball talent like he has to convince kids to Go.

955
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: To spokane and for, the record there's a there's a

956
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: late great sports Writer Named jim murray Of The. La

957
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: times he was he could have been a, comedy writer

958
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: and he always had a great Line About. Spokane washington he,

959
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: always said nothing Happens after spokane at ten in. The

960
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: morning so it's like the. MOST boring i. Love it it's,

961
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: great golf but it's like for him to get international

962
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: players and like transfers from big, schools there and it's

963
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: just one of those things where the Truth is gonzaga

964
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: still didn't have a lot, of money and it's it's he.

965
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: Had success a lot of it Was, pre NIL and

966
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: i think over the last couple of years where, You

967
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: know gonzaga doesn't have a guy to give him an

968
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: eight million, dollar check and so now it's it's LIKE it's,

969
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: i think Not. That gonzaga they'll continue to be. Just

970
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: outstanding but it was what Worked pre nil three years

971
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: ago was great coaching and. Great culture it won you

972
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: a lot of games in. The tournament now it's, great coaching,

973
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: great culture and a great. Bank roll and it's like

974
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like you go up against the Team

975
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: in texas and, you're, LIKE yeah i can see. THE

976
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: money i can, see that AND so i, DON'T know

977
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: i the pushback mark few. Is getting it's it's The

978
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: first gonzaga team in fifteen YEARS that i watched and,

979
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: DIDN'T like i didn't think they were dynamic enough. At

980
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: guard they WERE in i mean, They were they're scoring was.

981
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: Front court they've never been a great. Defensive program they

982
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: never have that like uber athlete on the wing to shut.

983
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: People down they're like a really smart well, coach culture,

984
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: good offense, good spacing good scoring, in transition good, guard play.

985
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: Nice balance but your take on Sort of gonzaga's last

986
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Two by gonzaga standards, Bumpy, years well first.

987
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: Of all like that game could very easily have gone

988
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: towards gonzagav just a couple of shots, go In like. Gonzaga,

989
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: three yeah They've been. They're good they're a good three

990
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: point shooting team that couldn't. Hit threes AND like i

991
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: actually just dug into the NUMBERS because i. Was curious

992
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: texas only generated three open catch and shoot threes in the,

993
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: entire game which means they defended really well and they

994
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: went two. For three gonzaga generated ten of them and

995
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: only made three. Of them so like it was a poor.

996
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: Shooting game and like the Kid from texas Hit That

997
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: campden heidi hits that tough corner three that goes in

998
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: a couple threes Missed, for gonzaga.

999
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: You lose.

1000
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: That's basketball that's how it, happens sometimes especially in. Single

1001
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: elimination and you mentioned he's already at a recruiting disadvantage

1002
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: because he's trying to recruit kids Up. To spokane now

1003
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 2: you have this nil piece and it's not like it's not. Even,

1004
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: close colin like. A j debansid by himself probably made

1005
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: about double what his, entire roster did, You know Like

1006
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: Like john calipari's roster is probably ten times as expensive

1007
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: As What mark fugh had up There. In gonzaga so

1008
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: like the reality is is like he's at a. Disadvantage

1009
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: THERE and i also just look at it And go

1010
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: mark few strikes me as the kind of guy That

1011
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: if gonzaga, fired him he would. Just retire but if

1012
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: he wanted to, keep coaching oh, he could he could

1013
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: go anywhere in.

1014
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: The country like.

1015
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: You cla have both offered him. Jobs before He loves, Spokane.

1016
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: EXACTLY like i would just, be like it would just

1017
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: be such a gross mismanagement or gross lack of appreciation

1018
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: for what you have in front of. You THERE like

1019
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: I just i just think he's one of the great

1020
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: coaches in my lifetime watching, college BASKETBALL and i think

1021
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: that he's making the most out of a strategic disadvantage

1022
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: up there In The. Pacific NORTHWEST and, i, JUST yeah

1023
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: i couldn't believe some of the STUFF that i was

1024
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: seeing flying.

1025
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,760
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1026
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,919
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1027
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1028
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1029
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