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We had a very interesting report for 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Major in Ogonowski on the Kevin Durant trade situation that 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I want to get into, just kind of update on 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: all the latest intel that we have there. We're gonna 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: talk some Kyrie Irving, why I think he's not a 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Laker yet, some specific hallmarks from trade negotiations that typically 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: me that something's about to happen. That we'll get into 48 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: here a little bit. And then at the end, the 49 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: one trade that did happen while I was out of town, 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert the Minnesota Timberwolves giving up a lot a 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, five players, four first round draft picks, 52 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: and a pick swap for Rudy Gobert, setting an outrageous 53 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: star trade market to start this summer. We're gonna get 54 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: into all of the details from that trade. What I 55 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: think was a very very interesting misread of the way 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: the league is heading from Tim Connolly. That will get 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: into some XS and O stuff later on in the shows. 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: To stick around for that. But let's get started with 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: k D. So you know, up front, I think one 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: of the things that people were missing on this specific 61 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: trade was it doesn't resemble any of the other recent 62 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: superstar trades. Like when we look at James Harden wanting 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: to get out of Brooklyn, he was a shell of 64 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: him self. His value was incredibly low compared to his peak. 65 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Even when he got traded from Houston. He was actively 66 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: sabotaging that situation so much that it scared away a 67 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: lot of teams, diminished his own value. You know, we 68 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: look at Paul George, no one, no one even knew 69 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: he was available, right, it was a one man bidding 70 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: war between the in the Clippers, and to the Thunders credit, 71 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: they got everything out of them. Right. Kawhi Leonard that trade, 72 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: if you remember, we hadn't even seen him playing a 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: long time because of the right and he tended the 74 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: path you think, and when he did go play, it 75 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: didn't look like Kawhi Leonard. So there's just not a 76 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: great example recently of a bona fide top five player 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers, who is not a malcontent, 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: who doesn't have any sort of drama attached to him 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: that wants a trade. It's very, very unusual. That's why 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: his value is so much higher than I think people realize. 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: And that's why teams like Phoenix and My I mean 82 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: didn't make a ton of sense to me initially when 83 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: they were brought up. I understand why they make sense 84 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: for KD. I mean, these are basketball teams that have 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: just about every box checked except for alpha dog superstar. Yes, 86 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler can be it on any given night, but 87 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: as you saw in that series against the Celtics, it's 88 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: like you're gonna get two or three heroic performances out 89 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: of him, and then in the other three or four 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna be pretty mediocre to flat out bad. Sometimes. 91 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: It's a very interesting experience with Jimmy Butler. And then 92 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: we got Phoenix and they were like the perfect basketball 93 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: team minus a superstar, right, So it makes a lot 94 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: of sense and I get that. But the truth of 95 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: the matter was is you just knew Brooklyn was gonna 96 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: want a lot for Kevin Durant, as they should, especially 97 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: in light of everything that went down during the time 98 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: that Katie and Kyrie were in this partnership with the franchise. 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna want a really, really good basketball player in 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: that trade. They're gonna want a lot of draft picks, 101 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: probably gonna want quality role players too. That's the other 102 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: unique angle to this trade. Brooklyn is not incentivized to 103 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: lose because all of their draft picks are going to 104 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. There's just nothing to gain from them losing. 105 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: So they're in the weird predicament where they want to 106 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: actually take in as many draft picks as possible, but 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: win as many games as possible because you're basically establishing 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: a culture and all the other benefits that come from 109 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: winning when a draft pick is not the reward at 110 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the end. So there's always going to be a different 111 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: type of negotiation compared to some of the star trades 112 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the past. And if I'm Brooklyn, 113 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I just don't think DeAndre Ayton is a foundational piece 114 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: in a league or the center position is like the 115 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: running back is in the NFL, the most easily replaceable 116 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: position in the league. DeAndre Ayton might be one of 117 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: the top three or four role player centers, meaning not 118 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: counting Yokashire Embiid, he might be a top three or 119 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: four role player center in the entire league, but for 120 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: a veteran minimum contract. Let's say Damian Jones who's playing 121 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: for the Lakers next year and played for the King's 122 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: last year. A Damien Jones can give you of what 123 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Aidon can do for a veteran minimum contract. That's the 124 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: league that we leave. We live in now that just 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: that specific position is not as valuable as the other 126 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: areas around the floor. Michael Bridges very good basketball player, 127 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year type of candidate, very clearly 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: not an offensive star. That just that hasn't developed to 129 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: this point. Is it doesn't mean it can't happen, but 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's gonna happen. And then we 131 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: looked over at Miami and Tyler Harrow is not that 132 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: guy either, very similar type of deal. He's a bench 133 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: score in this league and doesn't do enough defensively to 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: really hold down a starting spot. Bamon a Bio, in 135 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: addition to being legally incapable of being jammed into this trade, 136 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: is another one of those guys that I'm not sure 137 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: really moves the needle for Brooklyn a lot. That's why, 138 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: if you guys, remember I pointed out two teams as 139 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: teams that I thought had the best chance to get 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, and the teams that I thought should with 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: their name in the hat. It was the Toronto Raptors 142 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Pelicans. Why did I bring up 143 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: those teams? I brought up those teams because they immediately 144 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: have two things that will be very appealing to the 145 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, A ship ton of draft picks in a 146 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: bona fide sure thing young NBA up and coming star. 147 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about Scottie Barnes, and I 148 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: don't know a lot about Zion Williamson. Specifically, with Scotty Barnes, 149 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: remains to be seen whether or not his offensive development 150 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: keeps up at the pace that like a Janic Stid 151 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: who is a similar archetype as a young player in 152 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: this league, and was I in its health and body 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: weight stuff like that. Right, they have some question marks, 154 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: but we can be relatively certain with both of them 155 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: that they will have many seasons where they are way 156 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: better than DeAndre Atan bay met A Bio or Michail 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Bridges could ever be because they have a firm ceiling 158 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: on on what they're capable of that has been clearly 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: defined over there of the last couple of seasons in 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the NBA. But you know, Scotty Barnes kind of looks 161 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: like a similar type of player to Jannis on Antenna Coompa. Obviously, 162 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Janice is going to go down as an all time great, 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying in a similar type of archetype, 164 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: not as good, could be, not as good, but that 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: type of archetype of player, giant point forward that can 166 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: be an all world defensive player that is physically just 167 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: impossible to match up with. It was honestly a very 168 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: impressive player despite playing their injury during his first playoff 169 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: series this year, in terms of his overall impact on 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. And then Zion Williamson. I mean, 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: even if the Pelicans don't trade him, thinking about him 172 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: next year, surrounded with all the shooting that they're gonna have, 173 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be outrageously good. And he's just gonna be 174 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of like Blake Griffin was there during the two 175 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: thousand tens, Like on the low end, they'll be the 176 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: tenth best player in the league. He'll be the seventh 177 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: best player in the league. Right He's gonna be a 178 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: twenty five and thirteen guy in this league when he's healthy. 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: So the those guys are your clear cut assets that 180 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: a team like Brooklyn would absolutely want. Or I'm gonna 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: get all the draft picks to refill my conference so 182 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: I can start drafting each year and this one singular 183 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: all world talent that I can develop over the course 184 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: of the next few years to possibly partner with one 185 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: of these draft picks. They those two teams always made 186 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the most sense in this report that came out today 187 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: from Woes And we're gonna talk about the specific team 188 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: you mentioned here in a second, but he talked about 189 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: how every other team around the league needed to facilitate 190 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: this deal with a third team. What does that tell you? 191 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: That tells you Brooklyn isn't seeing the combination of things 192 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: that they want from the singular teams that they're talking to, 193 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: because in their predicament, it would make sense that they 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: would want a sure thing type of prospect as opposed 195 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: to a maybe type of prospect or a more developed 196 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: prospect prospect that's not good enough, like a McHale Bridges, 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: a Tyler Harrow or DeAndre eight. So who specifically stead 198 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: today that the Raptors are the team that could have 199 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: kd Now if they want him, they have the pieces 200 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: necessary to do a one on one deal with the 201 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. I saw some other intel elsewhere today that 202 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: the Pelicans are kind of bowing out of that race 203 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: for the time being. I actually thought it would be 204 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: the opposite. I thought the Pelicans would be more likely 205 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: because of Zion's injury concerns, because of Zion's weight concerns. 206 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: I just thought it made more sense for them to 207 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: bail out of that situation, especially with all the intel 208 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: from Zion potentially not being happy with the Pelicans. I 209 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: know he signed the deal for the money, but he 210 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: strikes you as your classic dude, who's gonna leave after 211 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: that deal? Right? I always thought, Scottie Barnes, you know 212 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: it was it was it made more sense to keep 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: in that between those two specific scenarios. So interestingly enough, 214 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Toronto is the team that has kind of entered into 215 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: that discussion. Now we've seen Toronto do this specific thing before, 216 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: target the wind Now Star with Kawhi Leonard and it 217 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: worked for them, and that's probably why M. S I U. 218 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Jerry has been more interested in potentially making this type 219 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: of deal. Here's why it makes sense to me for 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: both teams. If I'm Zion, if I if I have 221 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Zion under team control, or if I have Scotti Barnes 222 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: under team control. Again, your best case scenario is he 223 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: develops into a top five player and maybe for five 224 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: to seven years you can have him under team control 225 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: as a top five player in the league and make 226 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: some runs at a championship. Right that's the goal, That's 227 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: what you want to do. Drafting in the n b 228 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: A well, if you could have Kevin Durant right now, 229 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: a sure thing top five player in the league, who again, 230 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: we can say all we want about Kyrie. Katie is 231 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: a great part of any franchise, a consummate professional, and 232 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: the dude loves to play basketball. So all the drama 233 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: stuff is just not there with Kadie. So if I 234 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: could have that guy right now, even if you just 235 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: told me, hey, Jason, in this four years, he's only 236 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: going to be an All World MVP candidate for two 237 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: or three of them, Even if you just told me that, 238 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather for sure have two or three cracks at 239 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: a title, then maybe five to seven cracks at a 240 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: title maybe in the distant future. With these young players, 241 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's hoping that I've got the requisite pieces around 242 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: them to do so, unlike the Calves with Lebron in 243 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: the late two thousand's right, that's the that's the predicament 244 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: here right now. If you're Toronto and you can flip 245 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: Scotty Barnes and Salary Filler like a Fred vand Lead 246 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: or something to the nets, you right now have the pieces. 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: If I'm rolling out lineups with o g Ana Nobi 248 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant and and and Pascal Siakam and and 249 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: Bouche and Birch like as an outrageously athletic two way lineup, 250 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant fills a super specific need for that group, 251 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: which is high end offensive creation. So like, why would 252 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: you cling to a guy like Scotty Barnes too, Hopefully 253 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: in the future roll him out as a top five 254 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: player with a bunch of good role players when you 255 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: could do that right now with Kevin Durant and get 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: a trophy right now. If Kevin Durant gets flipped for 257 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: Fred Van Vleet and Scotty Barnes and Salary Filler, even 258 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: if they tossed in O g as long as they 259 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: keep Pascal Siakam and Kevin Durant, with all the other 260 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: length and athleticism that they have, they instantly become a 261 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: top tier contender to meet with their coaching, who, as 262 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: we remember from this playoff run, that coaching is so 263 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: vitally important, like we saw from Erik Spoelscha and from 264 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: and from Steve Kirk right, go down to the New 265 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans, same type of deal. If I can flip 266 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson and some other salary filler towards Brooklyn and 267 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: get back Kevin Durant, and I'm rolling out Kevin Durant, 268 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Brandon Ingram, c J McCollum, I 269 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: instantly had. It's a less athletic version of what was 270 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: going on in Toronto, but way more offensively coherent. Right 271 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: with Brandon Ingram and c J McCollum, that's a top 272 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: tier contender overnight. So, David Griffin, who has backed out 273 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: of this discussion for whatever reason, you're hoping in the 274 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: future to roll out Zion Williamson as a top five 275 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: player and a bunch of role players to win title. 276 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: How about you do that now with Kevin Durant, that. 277 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: That's why those two teams were the two teams that 278 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: had my eye on. I'm impressed by the Raptors for 279 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: sticking their name in that discussion, and I hope they 280 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: closed the deal because they're a very well run organization. 281 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: They will find another player the quality of Scotty Barnes 282 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: in the future, just like they did with Scotti, because 283 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: they're a smart basketball team, and I have no doubts 284 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: that they can do this the like they did with Kauai, 285 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: like they did in the last couple of years, and 286 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: like this potential Kevin Durant situation. Perennially be the team 287 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: that is a mix of excellent culture, excellent coaching, excellent management, 288 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: excellent ownership that can ride the tide of finding talent 289 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: in the draft, finding talent outside the draft, finding talent 290 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: free agency, find finding talent in the trade market. Being 291 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: the team that can do all of those things. That's 292 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: how you get to this point where you're consistently in 293 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: the conversation as a team that can win the title. 294 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: And I'm impressed by them. I hope they put what 295 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: is necessary down to close this deal. Now. Kyrie is 296 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: the one piece that's waiting in the wings here. So, 297 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: first of all, Laker fans have every reason to feel 298 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: confident that Kyrie Irving is going to eventually be a Laker. 299 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: The reason why they should feel that way is because 300 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Kyrie and the Lakers make sense, and none of the 301 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: other situations really make any sense, even the Dallas Mavericks 302 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: potential partnership, which I pointed out as one that made 303 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: some sense, and that there was some reporting on even 304 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: that situation, like there's some risk there that Dallas might 305 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: not want to deal with. Like basketball wise, having Kyrie 306 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Irving and they're driving kick system that's heliocentric makes a 307 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: ton of sense as a slot into the Jalen Brunson roll. 308 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: But they also really really like their head coach, and 309 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Luca don Chitch is trending towards being the best player 310 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: in the league, and they just had this really successful 311 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: low drama season where they came within seven wins of 312 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: an NBA title, and Kyrie has some potential to ruin 313 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: that as well if he brings along the Kyrie drama, 314 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: if he brings along all the negative things that come 315 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: with the Kyrie Irving experience. So there's as a matter 316 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: of fact, you can probably bet that Dallas is looking 317 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: at this like no, thank you. That doesn't mean they 318 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: won't end up with him. It doesn't mean a third 319 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: random team won't end up with him. I said on 320 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: the night of free agency that I put it in 321 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: about an eight percent chance that Kyrie would be a Laker. 322 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now. I think there's an 323 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: eighty percent chance he'll be a Laker. That yes, that 324 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: means there's a one in five chance, which is a 325 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: pretty solid chance, that he ends up somewhere else, either 326 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: as part of the Kadi trade or in some other move. 327 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: If the Lakers get tired and and and move on 328 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: from this situation, it's always a chance. But make no mistake, 329 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: the partnership right there for the Lakers and Kyrie makes 330 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: tons of sense. In the same way that Dallas would 331 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: be scared of what Kyrie could do to mess things up, 332 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers just don't have that fear. They just came 333 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: off of arguably the most disappointing season in franchise history. 334 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: They were the second leading favorite in Vegas and didn't 335 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: make the playoffs in a field that allows twenty of 336 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: the thirty teams to make playoffs. It was a disaster. 337 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: They just fired their coach, Russell Westbrook has been incredibly toxic. 338 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: So even if they flipped Russ for Kyrie and Kyrie 339 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: misbehaved a little bit, it's a better situation than what 340 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: they had last year. So that's why that that that 341 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: partnership is so natural. But what Laker fans have learned 342 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the last couple of days is 343 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: a simple reality. Brooklyn, as much as it makes sense 344 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: for them to trade Kyrie to the Lakers, has no 345 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: incentive to do it right now. There's just no reason 346 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: they are devoting their focus and energy to the KD 347 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: trade as they should. It's the one that is clearly 348 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: going to bring them the most in return, and Kyrie 349 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: might end up having to help facilitate that if the 350 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: right offer comes around. Plus, no matter what that Lakers 351 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: offer is not going anywhere. The Lakers are gonna be 352 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: there to trade for Kyrie later tonight, They're gonna be 353 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: there to trade for Kyrie tomorrow. They're gonna be there 354 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: in a week. They'd be there in a month if 355 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: they had to. Now, I don't think it will drag 356 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: out that long. My guess is the Kyrie Irving trade 357 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: goes down shortly after the kd trade. But there's no 358 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: reason for this to go down right this second. But 359 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: at the same time, there's absolutely no way in hell 360 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: that he's a Brooklyn Net next year. And I always 361 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: am cracked up when I hear these kinds of of 362 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: threats thrown around in trade negotiations. So many interesting callbacks 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: to the to the Anthony Davis situation here, like like, uh, 364 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: we might bring him to camp and see what happens. Yeah, No, 365 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: you're not doing that. When you're trying to run a 366 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: basketball team and you want to set your guys up 367 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: for success, you never bring drama to training camp if 368 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you can avoid it. He got young players in the group, 369 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: you have veteran players. You have guys that are actively 370 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: bought in to the goal, and a coaching staff that's 371 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: bought into the goal. You're not gonna bring Kyrie Irving 372 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: to training camp in the middle of a trade negotiation. 373 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. They weren't going to do 374 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: it with Anthony Davis, and they weren't gonna do with 375 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. I will be stone cold shocked if he's 376 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: at Nets camp, and if he is, he won't be 377 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: at camp. He'll just be under contract with the team. 378 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: As they continue to try to facilitate a trade, they'll 379 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: send him home. There's just no way they'll do that. 380 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I heard intel that the Nets might use him as 381 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: salary filler. Yeah, no, they're not going to do that 382 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: when they can get a first round pick from the Lakers. 383 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: The only way they're gonna use him as salary filler 384 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: is if it's the only way to facilitate a trade 385 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: with some team out there that nets them more than 386 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: what the Lakers would give them. Like that, they can 387 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: absolutely get a first round pick from the Lakers right now, 388 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Why why would they Why why would they blow that 389 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: to use him as salary filler. Now, what they are 390 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: saying is, yeah, like, if it comes to a deal 391 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: where some team goes, we'll take Kyrie and Katie or 392 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: here's all the stuff we're gonna give you and we 393 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: want them both, then yeah, like that might happen, But 394 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: you're not keeping Kyrie as an asset for anything else 395 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: than to just see what happens on the KD front. Now, 396 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: the specific reason why Kyrie has so much power in 397 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: this situation, even that you think he wouldn't is his 398 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: threats are especially power focused. He'll actually do them, you know, 399 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: like Kyrie told the Calves in two thou eighteen, in 400 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: the summer of two thou seventeen, if you don't trade me, 401 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: I will get surgery on my knee. Kyrie not this 402 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: past season, but the year before, despite contractual obligations, just 403 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: up and left the team twice for extended periods of 404 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: time without even telling the coaching staff. So his feeling 405 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: when he sees his contract, when he sees his obligation 406 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: to be somewhere, is not all that binding. So for 407 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: him to threaten, like, hey, I'm going to the Lakers, 408 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: so the only team I want to play for if 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: you trade for me, I'm going there next year. I 410 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: don't want to play anywhere then for the Lakers. That's 411 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: a threat that he will actually fulfill. And it's a 412 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: huge part of why so many teams out there are 413 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: not interested in Kyrieer but because he's not the guy 414 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: that you'll trade for and convinced to play. K D 415 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: might be like Toronto wasn't his list of destinations originally, 416 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't think at least, but I know it wasn't 417 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: his favorite destination. But as soon as he shows up 418 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: and starts talking basketball with Massiugerie and Nick Nurse, as 419 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: soon as he starts talking basketball with with Pascal Siakim 420 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: and those guys, he's gonna be ready to go. Because 421 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: he's a hooper first and foremost, and he does feel 422 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: binding when he looks at his contract, he does feel 423 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: an obligation to fulfill his contractual expectations. Kyrie does not. 424 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: And so all of that work Kyrie has been doing 425 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to try to put to to let 426 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: everybody know he wants to be a Laker. It is powerful. Look, 427 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn got just like the Pelicans. Remember when the when 428 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: the Pelicans trade was happening with the Lakers, all of 429 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: this animosity towards the Lakers. You knew the Pelicans hated him. 430 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: All the reporting was like that. To remember when the 431 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: Lakers couldn't get him at the deadline in and then 432 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: Adrian Warznowski is like, and the Boston Celtics will get 433 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: their chance to trade for Anthony Davis. It's like, no, 434 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: but Anthony Davis doesn't want to go there, and he's 435 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: not the type of player that KD is. So Boston 436 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: obviously didn't want to include dassets, and they didn't get 437 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. And then there there were the Lakers, and 438 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: yeah they went down kicking and screaming. Yeah I got ugly, 439 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: but the Lakers sent him a bunch of stuff, and 440 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: then Anthony Davis was a Laker. The same situation is 441 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: happening here. The Nets are probably so sick of Kyrie, 442 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: they're probably like, screw this guy. If they had the 443 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to burn him down, they would. They probably will 444 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: anonymously after he's gone, after they've made the trade. They 445 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: have no reason to want to send Kyrie to his 446 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: preferred destination. They simply have to because Kyrie has all 447 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: the leverage. He's burnt the bridge with every other team 448 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: in the league, and the Lakers are willing to give 449 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: you a first round pick. Now it seems to me 450 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: like the Brooklyn is trying to haggle him for a 451 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: second first round pick. And don't get me wrong, that 452 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: is actually sound asset management for the Lakers to be like, no, no, no, 453 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: no, no no, that's enough, and we give you Russ, we 454 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: give you a first we take that Kyrie, or we 455 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: keep the first and we'll take on your bad Joe 456 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Harris contract. But that's it. Those are the only two 457 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: situations there. They don't need to overpay for Kyrie, they 458 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: just might need to wait a little bit for him. 459 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: That said, I still, all things included, expect likely that 460 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie will be a Laker, even if he doesn't get traded, 461 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: even if he gets used as salary filler, Even if 462 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: some of those threats from Brooklyn come true. The far 463 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: more likely scenario is the team he ends up on 464 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: ends up buying him out, and then he ends up 465 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: with the Lakers. So it just feels like an inevitability, 466 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: but it's also something that is not a rush. 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All Right, before we get out 484 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: of here tonight, let's talk about this Rudy Gobert trade. 485 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: So the Utah Jazz and Rudy Gobert to the Minnesota 486 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Timberwolves for Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Leandrew Bromorrow, Walker Kessler, 487 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt, the three first round pick, the first round pick, 488 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: the six pick swap seven first round pick, and he 489 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: protected first round pick in So, before we get any 490 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: for they're into this, I gotta admit that I was 491 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: incredibly wrong about this, specifically that Rudy Gobert would ever 492 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: fetch this much of a trade return. I got into 493 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: several arguments with several people about this this year, and 494 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: I was just flat out wrong. All I was saying, like, 495 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: and you guys know me, I'm a huge believer even 496 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: a defender. I would say, in what Rudy Gobert does defensively, 497 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I've always just thought with his offensive limitations and the 498 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: fact that he's gonna make forty plus million dollars half 499 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: a decade from now, I didn't understand giving up real 500 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: assets to strap your team down in terms of financial 501 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: flexibility for a player that offensively is pretty limited. And 502 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: so I was talking all sorts of ships, saying there's 503 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: no WAYO Gobert would ever get this kind of trade return. 504 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: And I was just flat out wrong. And I was 505 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: stunned when I saw the trade. It was incredibly interesting. 506 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Now we all know what happened here. This was a 507 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: textbook new owners, a group, new president of basketball operations. 508 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: Let's just get in and stir the pot. Type of trade. 509 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: You know, like you're foundationally. Now you're looking at this 510 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: is Carl Towns cannot be our foundational defensive center. We 511 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: need a real back line defensive guy. Carl Towns is 512 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: a is a perimeter already ended big, so it shouldn't 513 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: mess with our spacing too much. Anthony Edwards is our 514 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: real star anyway, you know, we're gonna build around this core, 515 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: will build around the periphery with this group, will be 516 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: a much better defensive team. This will be great. I 517 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: get the idea behind it, but I thought this was 518 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: a fundamental misread of the direction that the NBA is 519 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: going from Tim Connolly, If you guys remember, not the 520 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: day after the NBA Finals, but like two or three 521 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: days later, I did a whole thing on the five 522 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: biggest things that I learned from this year's NBA Playoffs, 523 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: and in it, for one of the segments, I've focused 524 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: on the XS and those related things. And in that segment, 525 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: if you guys remember my primary focus, the primary thing 526 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: that I looked yet from as a lesson that I 527 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: learned from this playoff run, is that the most important 528 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: thing in the NBA right now, the most important roster 529 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: construction piece, is perimeter size and athleticism, specifically the ability 530 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: to contain ball handlers. Why did I say that, Because 531 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: every Rudy Gobert type of talent in the world eventually 532 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: can be game planned around. That's what happened to the 533 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Utah Jazz over the years. He became the butt of 534 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: the joke wrongly as things would go south for Utah. 535 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: You'd see Rudy Obert chasing a shooter out and watching 536 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: him somebody knocked down a shot in his face, or 537 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: you'd see him closing out on a guy and then 538 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: somebody beating him off the dribble to the BASKETBA. What 539 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: you would forget or not notice is that the original 540 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: compromising of the defense was always from Donovan Mitchell or 541 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: Mi con Lee or by Bogdanovitch or any of their 542 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: perimeter players. They were giving up slashing drives to the middle, 543 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: which would have met the compromise their defense. Gobert would 544 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: step up, they kick out to a shooter who would 545 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: either make a shot or they'd attack one more close 546 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: out and get another wide open shot. It was the 547 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: perimeter players that were the problem offensively in Utah. And 548 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: I want to stay on our defensively in Utah. Excuse me, 549 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: and I want to stay on the defensive end of 550 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: the four here for just a second, because going over 551 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: to Minnesota from February to the end of the season, 552 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: when Minnesota really started to get going, they finished the 553 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: year fourteen and seven to claw into the play in picture. 554 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: If you guys remember during that stretch. They were top 555 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: ten defense over the last twenty one games of the 556 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: season's basically a fourth of the season. They were a 557 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: top ten defense despite having Carl Anthony Towns as their 558 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: back line defender, and he's one of the lower end ones. 559 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: He is a below average back line defender in this league, 560 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: and yet they were a top ten defense. Why is that? Because, 561 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: as I said many times throughout the postseason, in the 562 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: early rounds and towards end of the regular season, they 563 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: are a great perimeter contained team. Patrick Beverley, Malik Beasley, 564 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt, Jaden McDaniels, all of these guys to orient prints. 565 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: All of these guys were a huge part of why 566 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: Carl Towns was not exposed as a week back line defender. 567 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: If you are containing the dribble drives and making it 568 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: so that guys are not getting clear slashing lanes into 569 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: the middle, then your back line defense becomes much less important. 570 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: So the problem here is Tim Connolly should have known better. Yes, 571 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: in the regular season, when you're funneling guys to go 572 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: bear like Utah did, you can functionally run a great 573 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: regular season defense. And for the record, I expect the 574 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves to be a better regular season team than 575 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: what they've been in years past. They'll be five ever 576 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: sixth seed as opposed to a playing team, and when 577 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: there are five and six seed, they'll be able to 578 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: look at each other and be like, hey, we made 579 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: this deal. We're better. But just like with Utah, it's 580 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: not about the ability to funnel to go beart in 581 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: the regular season. It's about the ability to cover ground 582 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: on the perimeter and contain ball handlers in the postseason, 583 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: and in this specific case, it'll be the exact same problem. 584 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: Malik Beasley and Patrick Beverley did a great job at 585 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: the point of attack containing ball handlers this year. Jared 586 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt was arguably their best defensive wing last year. I 587 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: like Jada McDaniels a little a little bit better, but 588 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: they were the same type of athlete on the perimeter 589 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: containing ball handlers. You are now going to be replacing 590 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: those guys. Jade McDaniels will likely become a starter. Torre 591 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: and Prince will likely become a starter. My guess is 592 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: it will be aunt those two guys, Carl Towns and 593 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. That sounds great, right, but now every other 594 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: perimeter player that plays this year will have to be 595 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: filled in around the margins that are in minimum contracts, 596 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: young players, draft picks, things along those lines, Your depth 597 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: in perimeter contain just got way worse. And as a result, 598 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: especially in a playoff series, when teams start targeting you 599 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: and teams start game planning around the Gobert problem, that 600 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: lack of perimeter defense will become an issue. So even 601 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: if we forget about the draft picks and all of 602 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: the capital that they sent and just focus on the basketball, 603 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand limiting yourself by taking away your depth 604 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: for the sake of a defensive fulcrum that primarily will 605 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: bring value in the regular season. And that's why I 606 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: say that's why I do those lessons podcasts after each season. 607 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: I did one last year too. Becauld pay attention to 608 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: the league. This is what drives me nuts about the 609 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Lakers with Rob Polinka. I just feel like he's not 610 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: paying attention to what's happening happening around the league. If 611 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: he was paying attention to what was happening around the league, 612 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: there's no way he would sign Lonnie Walker, a six 613 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: for young guard with his one midlevel exception slot instead 614 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: of a bigger wing that could actually play for the 615 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Lakers in a postseason series in a closing lineup. Rob 616 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Polinka hasn't been watching enough NBA basketball to understand that 617 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: that was a bad idea. You had to use your 618 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: one significant salary slot on a player between six six 619 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: and six nine that can guard multiple positions and be 620 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: in your closing lineup alongside Lebron and a d And 621 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: he missed the boat on that because he's not paying attention. 622 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: If Tim connolly closely watched this NBA postseason every single game, 623 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: he would have noticed that his perimeter defense was why 624 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: his team was good, in conjunction with Anthony Edwards greatness, 625 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: in conjunction with cat when he was playing well, that's 626 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: when this was good, and it did. It wasn't back 627 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: line defense that was the problem. They actually were defending 628 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: pretty damn well. Obviously, Aunt needed to get better. D'Angel 629 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: Russell ended up being a shortcoming in the playoffs. Into 630 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: in the playoff series, Carl Towns was a little bit inconsistent, 631 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: but they didn't have a back line defense problem. I 632 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: was really impressed with their half court defense against Memphis, 633 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: against the team that puts a lot of pressure on 634 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: the rim, and so I I just just strictly from 635 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: an XS and O standpoint, it was a misread of 636 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: the way the NBA is going. Then when you get 637 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: into all the picks and players they gave up, then 638 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: it gets even more annoying and frustrating and inconceivable. Now 639 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: let's let's go to the offensive end of the flour 640 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: because this is where I think it gets really really 641 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: Like Dicey from Minnesota, now, what really happened in Utah? 642 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: The real reason that the Rudy Gobert fit didn't work 643 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: was the offensive end of the floor. On defense, Rudy 644 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: was out kicking his coverage. He was covering for a 645 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: ship ton of mistakes from other players. I will go 646 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: to the graves saying that Rudy Gobert has always been 647 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: a very good defensive player, and almost every facet of 648 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: defense is he kawhile entered guarding a wing. No, but 649 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: he's good guarding a wing, and he's good guarding a guard, 650 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: and he's one of the most dominant room protectors of 651 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: all time. The defense is not an issue for Gobert. 652 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: Never made sense to talk about that. But in the 653 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: NBA on the offensive end of the floor. When you 654 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: get into a switching scheme, which is what most teams 655 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: do for most actions in the playoffs. When you get 656 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: to that point, you have to be able to punish mismatches. 657 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: If Rudy Gobert can go up and set a screen 658 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: and they were on drop coverage and he can roll 659 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: to the rim as a as a lop threat, that's great. 660 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Teams are gonna switch it. Why because Gobert won't post 661 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: them up. And it's not a Utah Jazz problem. It 662 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: was a Gobert problem. He was not capable of quickly 663 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: fighting for a position, demanding the basketball, catching and quickly 664 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: finishing around the rim. That was his shortcoming. That's why 665 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: things went south in Utah. It turned them into an 666 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: isolation team because Gobert's screening roles were not working because 667 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: teams could easily switch them. That was the issue. That 668 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: will become a problem even further as we head into Minnesota, 669 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: and it's especially concerns me because Anthony Edwards is one 670 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: of the best young slashers that we have in the league. 671 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: I like Carl Towns at the five. There with great 672 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: perimeter defensive players so that you don't have to worry 673 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: about Carl Town's defense and so that you can play 674 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: five out, because in a five out situation, you unlock 675 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards as a freight train going downhill. Now you 676 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: have to work Rudy Gobert into the dunker spot all 677 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: the time. Now you have to permanently relegate Carl Towns 678 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: to the perimeter. Hey, guess what, It's gonna be harder 679 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: for you to face up from the high post to 680 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: fight on the left block, to fight on the right 681 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: block when Rudy Gobert is on the floor. This will 682 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: fundamentally change the dynamic of their spacing, and I don't 683 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: like that at all. They are gonna be moments where 684 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: it works, They're gonna be lib dunks, They're gonna be 685 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: plays where Rudy looks like he functionally fits into their offense. 686 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: But for the most part in the aggregate, when you 687 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: factor in the way that Rudy Gobert's man is going 688 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: to be able to help drivers around the basket, I 689 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: view it as in that negative. So all in all, 690 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: looking at this thing in totality, I feel like they 691 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: got a little bit better on defense in the regular season, 692 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: but worse on defense in the postseason, and I think 693 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: they flat out got worse offensively, especially with as good 694 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: as a shooter Malik Beasley. Is I just, I just 695 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: it was genuinely, genuinely confounding, but not the least bit 696 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: surprising to see a new ownership group in a new 697 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: basketball operations department go that route. I there'll still be 698 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: an interesting team. They still have those two wings and 699 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: Jade McDaniels and Torre and prints to put around those guys. 700 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: But they gave up all their depth for a player 701 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: that I think actually makes them worse in the postseason. 702 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: And I think the story ends within being a II 703 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: or succeed and then losing to one of the better 704 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: Western Conference teams in the first round. Alright, guys, that 705 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: is all I have for today. As always, I sincerely 706 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: appreciate your guys support. I will follow me on Twitter 707 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: at Underscore Jason LT and I'll give you guys some 708 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: show announcements about what else we have coming this week, 709 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys in a couple of days. Oh. Actually, 710 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm headed to NBA Summer League on Thursday, and I 711 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: will be checking out all the top prospects there and 712 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: I will have some special things lined up for you guys. 713 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Not sure exactly what yet. We're still playing some stuff, 714 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: but like I said, follow me on Twitter at under 715 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: Underscore Jason LT so you guys can see show announcements. 716 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you guys rocking with me and 717 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: I'll see you in a couple of days. Volume