WEBVTT - Anarchy! I Don’t Know What It Means But I Love It!: William Buwalda 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.120 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio, Zaren. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:05.200 Do I know you? 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:05.840 Yes? 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:06.320 Zaren? 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.160 Oh, I do know you. Elizabeth Hey, I had to 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:11.840 look over my newspaper that I'm reading. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.280 Oh, I see you know it's ridiculous, I do. Oh. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.160 Yes. Lawn Chair Larry. You ever heard of this cat? 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.000 No lawnchair Larry Walters. That's his government name, the Larry 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.040 Walter's part, not lawnchair, that part street name. Anyway. In 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.479 nineteen eighty two, lawnchair Larry decided, you know what, I 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.400 want to be the first man person to ever go 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.520 up into the wild blue yonder and fly a lawn chair. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.960 And so he did just that. He tied forty weather 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.440 balloons to a lawn chair. What and he got up 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.400 to sixteen thousand feet. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.400 It's like proto balloon boy. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.960 In his launchair. Yes. So he had these eight foot 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.680 helium filled weather balloons, right, and so they're attached to 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.800 a Sear's aluminum lawnchair, you know, you know, the type 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.320 early eighties lawnchair. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:00:59.520 Good quality. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.840 He had the chair tilted back at a forty five 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.600 degree angle so he wouldn't like fall out and he's 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.120 not just sitting prone proper you know the lean back. Now, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.520 he had a jug gallons of water that was his 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.640 ballast that he was going to use to like get 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.520 down or get up. You know, so he's like pouring 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.000 out water or adding water. I don't anyway you get Yeah, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.559 So he called his aircraft the Inspiration one, and he 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.000 stocked the the drink service with cold beer. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:25.600 Yeah. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.440 He had a CBE radio. He had an altimeter, so 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.960 you know how high you up he got. He had 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.120 a camera. He had a pelagon. Why a pelagon not 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.000 for birds, Elizabeth, I didn't want you to worry. That 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.959 was to be able to see get up a controlled descent. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.800 He'd yet out shoot out the balloons and so was controlled. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.720 This is like my kind of plan. I'm gonna shoot 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:44.399 the balloon down. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.160 You kind of planting. But so he did you have 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.320 like a cooler strap to the bottom for his beer. 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.360 I think it was just like a small little like 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.840 cozy cozy style, like I don't know. He flew for 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.440 a long time. I mean he was up there. No, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.760 he eventually he eventually did come down, say mind you 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.480 and pilots at Lax saw him like he was way 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.120 sixteen thousand feet and he was like in the airspace. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.200 He was up there like I think he's up there 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.560 about forty five minutes, and then he decided, Okay, I 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.280 think I'm brave enough now to shoot some of the 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.520 balloons out. See if I can do this landing plan 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.120 I came up with and he landed and it totally worked. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:18.600 Wow. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.200 Yeah, so there you go. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.080 That's ridiculous. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.000 And by the way, when he was at Hollywood High 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.480 he had done a science project called hydrogen in Balloons. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.560 He got a D on that project. They proved that 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:31.480 teacher wrong. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.440 That is ridiculous, Larry, that's so ridiculous. Do you know 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.360 what else is ridiculous? 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.880 I love what's ridiculous. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:43.000 Getting arrested and sent to Alcatraz for shaking someone's hand? 0:02:43.200 --> 0:03:04.160 What this is ridiculous? 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.239 Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.160 Heis. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.959 It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.160 percent ridiculous. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:14.919 You damn right. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.639 You know who Emma Goldman is, right? Yeah, she's an anarchist, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.120 or was an anarchist. When we say anarchists, this isn't 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.840 like the popular perception of it. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.360 She didn't wear dress in black and. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.440 She were studded black denim vest. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.000 She's in the black block, yes, with. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.239 An anarchy symbol in THEA and just healed me him. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.880 Anarchy And I don't even know what it means, but 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.480 I love it. That my favorite. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.720 So anyway, it's not destroying property for no reason. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.640 No, it's it was a political stance in the end 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.680 of the nineteenth century that really well, yeah. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.920 You're stepping away from imposed structures, hierarchies, and you're just 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.920 kind of letting humans be free individuals for the most. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.000 Part, and also using a lot of mutual aid and 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.120 a lot of things where it's down to the individuals 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.280 creating society at a much more atomic level then at 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.600 a much fire top down. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.880 And that sounds super peaceful, yeah, but not so fast. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.240 Just with any ism, they're good aspects, bad aspects. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.960 It had a radical aspect of violence that yeah, right. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.320 So they were interested in dismantling the seats of power 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.599 in the West, and they wanted to turn that power 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.560 over to the common people, the workers, yes, every day. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:21.279 Folk like you and me. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.480 This get parallel to communism in terms of like giving 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.200 people to the power to the people. Yeah, in a 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:25.719 different way. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.919 But like obviously the seats of power didn't like this. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.120 People in charge don't like when people try and take 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.120 power away, so they hit back hard and they created 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.400 a lot of misinformation for the public about what anarchism. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.240 We still deal with that too to this day. The 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.760 whole anti socialist, anti anarchism messaging we. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.479 Still deal with, and that took away people's ability to 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.400 gauge it for themselves, because it's not not everyone's gonna 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.800 agree with this or like it. But you know, we 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.480 have to be able to assess things, like analyze them 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:52.400 critically on. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.320 Our own, to be able to say that's a penguin, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:55.880 like that's a bad bird, Well. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.760 We should be the ones to decide whether we think 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.560 it's good or bad exactly. It's like when I was 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.360 a kid, I was in the car with my mom 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.040 and a song came on the radio. My mom went 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.200 to change the station like super quick, and I told her, no, no, no, sup, 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 I like this song. I'd never heard it before, only 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.120 those opening bars. Right then she switched the station anyway, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.360 and she told me it was garbage and that I 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:17.880 didn't you don't like this song. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.000 And you're not going to get on the bus go 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:19.800 She said, no. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:20.799 One liked it. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.599 It was the bee Gees, and I didn't listen to 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.000 it after that because I was told. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.279 It was garbage. I mean she was right, of course, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.240 but we can't act like kids. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.680 And let others with that charming Australian falsetto there is 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:34.520 nothing wrong with. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.200 You, apparently, I was told it's garbage. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.400 So but like, you can't let people you know, treat 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.800 like a kid tell you what's good, even if they 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.240 wind up being right. You have to be able to 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.880 figure grown up exactly. And it's important to remember that 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.680 very few things are all good or all bad, so 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:57.560 their life is shades of grapes. I love uncertainty, I 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.400 really do anyway. Emma Golden she was born in eighteen 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.400 sixty nine in Russia, had a really rough upbringing. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:05.760 Family was super poor. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.040 Her father didn't believe that women should be educated, so 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.599 she had to educate herself in secret. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.200 Was she raised in a Jewish program? 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:12.880 Do we know not? 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.479 But not in a program, but she she's a Jewish 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.039 Russian Jewish g Yeah. She became a secret student, secret 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.320 student coming this fall to CBS, so she read what 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.640 she could find. She paid really close attention to the 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.479 world around her too, and so there she was in 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.160 the middle of all the turmoil in Russia at the time. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.080 The Tsar thought of himself as like progressive, but at least 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.719 better than the last iteration, but the people did. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.680 It was a low bar to clear right, like I'm 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.240 not trampling your neighbors with horses. I'm progressive. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.000 That people didn't agree with them, You're not progressive. They 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.120 didn't want to be led by. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.520 Royalty or like an out of touch bloodline that you know. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.320 Away, you know, yeah, had no awareness of what they 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:53.960 deal with in their. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.960 Day to day exactly. So they wanted to decide their 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.120 own futures. The anarchists were leading the way on this. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.560 In fact, they went so far as too, I shouldn't 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.760 laugh assassinate. This is our Alexander, the second dude. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.520 We were talking about that earlier. There's a lot of 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.800 the anarchists assassinated by an anarchist between eighteen eighty and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:10.360 nineteen ten. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.880 This happens a lot. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.360 It was gruesome, by the way, so it was horrible, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:19.840 a horrible desk. Goldman, though, saw firsthand what's called propaganda 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.040 of the deed in this those violence aimed at the 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.240 ruling class. Intended to start a revelation, and I just 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.800 loved the propaganda of the deed right. So it didn't 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.960 happen right away in Russia in eighteen eighty one with 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.520 the assassination by bombing of Alexander the Second, but it 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:38.280 did happen eventually, and before that Russian Revolution could happen, though, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.720 Goldman immigrated to the US. It was eighteen eighty five. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.000 She was sixteen years old, so she arrived in Rochester, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.680 New York with her sister and things were getting heated 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.200 back in Saint Petersburg, Anti Semitism was out of control, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.080 so the rest of the family joined the sisters. In 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.239 eighteen eighty six. She saw that anarchy wasn't just in Russia. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.800 It was picking up steam here in the US as well. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:10.320 Very international, super elegant, international, anarchist. It's all like Saint Petersburg, Rochester. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:16.160 I don't know Melbourne, Melbourne anarchy. Uh So she tried 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.400 to marry a nice guy in the middle of all this, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.520 but they were really incompatible. I don't think they ever 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.920 even consummated the marriage. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.080 Oh, he was. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:24.720 Just a nice guy. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.040 They lived with her parents and she left him twice 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.680 and the parents thought that was loose behavior. Like she 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.080 kept saying, I can't take it anymore. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:33.640 I'm out of here. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.320 We I didn't want her to read so I can 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.000 see how they might be. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.240 So she leaves Rochester goes to New York City and 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.720 it was there that she started hearing speeches given by 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.440 other anarchists. And those guys are all fired up. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.679 We're talking like street corners speeches. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.760 Right, you know, in like like a Squashington Square park 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:51.520 kind of stuff. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.640 She's all head up about it. I like this. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.960 So she saw the power of the spoken word and 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:57.760 she wanted in. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.480 And they were some fiery orators, I mean, like Lucy 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:03.720 anarchists exactly. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.200 So she still had to fight for gender equality even 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.200 in the anarchist move and like, the more she fought, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.800 the fire more fiery she got. So she and her 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:18.840 special friend Alexander Berkman, they focused particularly on rights and 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.199 protections for workers. It was their big emphasis. So they 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.920 supported a strike by steel workers who saw their wages 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.520 drop even though productivity in the mill was increasing. So 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.720 they had all these efficiencies. How do they want to 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:37.520 support the workers by murdering the fact that the facility's manager. Ah, yes, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.320 don't worry they weren't successful. This is not one percent. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.360 So the higher ups in the anarchist movement, though, they 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.360 were irritated with Goldman and Berkman for coming up with this. Well, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.439 let's just shoot the manager. So the the attack on 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 the we want change now shoots the guy. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.400 So they attack him. They don't, they don't. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.280 He's not killed, and it doesn't. But this attack doesn't 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.320 rally the worker to rise up. They're like, come on, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.800 like we know that guy, and like, you know that's 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:04.960 not going to help our cause. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:05.440 Yeah. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.480 Yeah, So they thought it was horrible. They're disgusted by it. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.840 They just wanted fair compensation. They're like, we don't want blood, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.400 we just want some cats. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.160 This is not going to get me Saturday off. I 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.280 don't see how this is. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.680 So as the US economy hit the skids in eighteen 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.000 ninety three, Goldman kicked her show into high gear. She 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.880 gave really stirring speeches, and in one she pushed the 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.680 crowd to take what was THEIRS quote, if they do 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.640 not give you work, demand bread. If they deny you 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.400 both take bread. So the authorities thought that she was 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.559 inciting the crowd to riot, and she was arrested and 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.360 that actually got her a lot of good press. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.480 So people who were they were all. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.080 Suffering, you know, the economies, can't you know whatever, and 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.360 they side with her. You know what, Yeah, if I'm starving, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.920 I'll steal bread if you won't give me a job. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.280 And also at that time in America, you have a 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.960 lot of populations who are immigrant populations coming from countries 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.960 that were far worse, and so they already have a 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.559 you know, like a long history of being oppressed. So 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:58.920 then I'm not going to take it now in the 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.560 land of opportunity, like I came here to a very chance, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.880 they're really heated in right, right. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.240 And so she gets she gets found guilty for trying 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.400 to incide a riot, gets a year. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.319 She's just like Axl Rose, Just. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:11.599 Like, I mean, how many times have we said that, 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:12.439 Ama Goldman. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.880 Actual Rose, you know, two sides of the same coin. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.520 So but she got a year, not the probation like 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.439 Axle did, and the judge branded her a quote dangerous woman. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.280 Oh that's the one. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.280 That's how she gets it. So jail time didn't suppress 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.000 her support. People were still. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:28.920 Probably helped her. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.440 Yeah, they're even more eager to hear her. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.240 Speak and now you can raise money off of this. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:33.520 Yeah. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.199 But also it's like if you hear that this woman 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.120 is like about to get arrested and she's getting people 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.760 all riled up. Even if you're like I don't care 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.320 one way or the other what she's saying, it's like 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.560 it's an attraction. I want to see this woman like 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.280 get everyone fired out. So she starts touring the US, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.000 speaking just like AXL Rose. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.040 This is an amazing the parallel so crazy. Who's her slash? 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:54.040 That's what I want to. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.559 So, speaking to crowds of people, she's like, you know what, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.840 topple the status quot handover control to the workers, the 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.480 regular people. She was against capitalism, she was against government, which, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.040 like you know, I guess we do need kind of 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.320 some stroke. She was against organized religion. She was against 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.760 the patriarchy. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.080 Anything top down. She was against pretty much. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.480 So she supported a woman's access to birth control, which 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.520 was revolutionary, and she wanted to give women bodily autonomy. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.200 And she also was really stressing the idea, if that 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.079 women can have some sort of birth control, that's how 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.160 you prevent abortion. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.839 Yes, birth control gives you a bodily autonomy because it 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.360 allows you to plan and exactly. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.679 She believed in free love like before the hippies, Oh, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:38.840 the one you're with. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.920 Free love as in the bedroom, not free love is 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.040 in like I'm cool with my neighbor. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.400 Free love is in like there's a rose in the 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:49.120 in the fisted glove and the eagle flies with the dove. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.400 If you can't be with the one you love, love 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.480 the one you're with. So she believed in gay rights. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:01.280 On give you time to that. She believed in gay rights, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.240 which was completely unheard of at the time. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.800 Yeah, completely completely did you even call gay rights? Was 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.480 there different? Imagine they had. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.400 Some sort of coding of like love and dirt. But anyway, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.199 she had affairs with both men and women and there 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.560 wasn't a label that she met that she didn't hate. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.400 I'm sorry, I'm over here with like confirmed bachelor rights, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:19.800 you know, like. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.600 Anyway, yes, and of course like she also believed that 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.160 targeted violence could be justified. She said, sometimes you need 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.320 to kind of crack skulls or blow something up in 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.360 order to get some change, which may or may not 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.960 be true, but you know, history. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.360 In a lot of ways would be on her side. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.320 That's true, that's true. So she talked a lot about this, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.560 but she never performed any act of violence herself. Of those, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.200 I feels kind of a cop out. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.000 I don't just kind of I think that's a cop 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:50.520 you're telling someone else to do. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.200 I wouldn't be about it, be about yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.880 I'm suspicious of someone who rallies others to do stuff 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.000 that they can get them arrested or murdered, that that 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:58.800 person won't do them. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.839 Especially as all that they won't pay. Like, I respect 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.520 the Don because he's like, do the violence, here's the money, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.960 I'll take care of your family, go to jail. But 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.600 if it's like just Bob my neighbor. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.760 The violence, talk about the mafia, the Don has done 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.240 stuff to get to that position totally. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.199 It was like it's an understanding language of violence. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.480 Right, and so this is the like you just get okay, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:15.960 you there. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.800 You're just spout in your mouth saying it's not. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.200 Really different than like suicide bombers, like go out there 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.160 and you're not the one doing it, you're telling me 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:23.360 to do it. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.400 I was going to a couple of steps and like 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.040 kind of like the you know, the online clowns to 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.040 want to go and like be like talk loud when 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.400 they're on their keyboard, like the keyboard Warriors. But they 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:33.680 would never say, that's what I. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.680 Say something in person to someone's face. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:36.920 But yours is well met too. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.760 It always is. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.080 So, so even the people who didn't agree with her 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.160 had to acknowledge that she had a way of like 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.640 capturing audience imagination and stirring emotion. The US Justice Department 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.080 didn't like this one bit. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.440 No, they weren't. They weren't about it. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:58.520 So they sent spies to watch her every move, their spies, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.240 and to watch it's spy versus spy, and to watch 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.440 every move of those in attendance at her rallies. So 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.000 in eighteen sixty nine, like I said, Goldman was born 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.280 in Russia. And also in eighteen sixty nine, a man 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.240 named William Bowalda was born in the Netherlands. Okay, okay, 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.280 non sequitar. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.840 Yeah, just dropping that in there, why not? 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:23.200 And then also whoburg everyone around the globe who was 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:24.080 born in eighteen. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.400 Sent was a man born in New Deviles. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:26.640 Well, this William Balde. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.640 He moved to the US two years before Emma Goldman did. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.200 He was fourteen by Billy b His. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.200 Family emigrated to Michigan. His parents only spoke Dutch, never 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.840 learned English, not assimilators. When he was twenty three, in 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.840 the beginning of the banking panics of the Gilded Age, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.000 he joined the military, and just like a long line 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.720 of his fourthfathers, so it was all military family. He 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.760 served five tours of duty. He was in the Philippines 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.680 during the Spanish American War. That was some crazy fighting, okay, 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.480 crazy times. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.480 So he joined to like post eighteen ninety seven panic 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.000 and then he goes So he's there for eighteen ninety 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.440 nine for the exactly okay, I got you. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.040 And he was a great soldier. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.760 He had an excellent record of service, lauded by his 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:12.600 superiors the army. They were so loving his superior blacksmith skills, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:18.680 like to do it again, will and the spark go 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.800 on and just like a good girl from the Tom 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:25.960 Petty song. He loved horses in America too, eight. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.720 On all the boomer lyrics. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:30.320 That was good. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.080 In nineteen o eight, he was stationed at the Presidio 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.840 in San Francisco. This had been a key point of 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.600 assembly for army troops. They headed out to the Pacific 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.720 Room and it was so everyone's going out to the 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.040 Pacific Room from there, and that was especially true for 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.040 those headed to the Philippines during Spanish America War, So 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.520 this wasn't his first time in the city. Nineteen oh 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.160 eight was actually a calm year for the US military, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.320 believe it or not. They'd seen some action in South 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.680 America a few years prior, and like more to come 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.720 in a few years time. 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:01.360 A little bit of a lull between the doors. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.920 For now, the Presidio is just a storied out post. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.040 Located clean our guns. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:07.880 It's at the mouth of. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.440 The San Francisco Bay, just cleaning guns. Just a bunch 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.800 of guys doing guy stuff. They're right at the foot 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.520 of where the Golden gate Bridge would be built decades later. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.560 And William Bewilda, as I said, was stationed there. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:21.680 Let's take a. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.640 Break, beautiful place, I'm just telling random biographies. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:26.920 Nice, let's take a break. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.040