1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,417 --> 00:00:26,417 Speaker 2: Virginia hit with a communist manifesto courtesy of the new 5 00:00:26,737 --> 00:00:29,497 Speaker 2: governor of that state and all the Democrats in the 6 00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:32,977 Speaker 2: state legislature who want to destroy what is actually the 7 00:00:33,017 --> 00:00:35,617 Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Virginia is a lovely place. If we could 8 00:00:35,657 --> 00:00:37,657 Speaker 2: just lop the northern part of it off and like 9 00:00:37,697 --> 00:00:39,977 Speaker 2: push it into the ocean, it would be a fantastic state. 10 00:00:40,057 --> 00:00:41,937 Speaker 2: But we'll get into some of this yere with our 11 00:00:41,977 --> 00:00:44,817 Speaker 2: friend David Harsanyi. He is, of course at the Washington 12 00:00:44,857 --> 00:00:48,737 Speaker 2: Examiner doing great stuff over there. Mister Harsanyi is a 13 00:00:48,857 --> 00:00:51,577 Speaker 2: Virginia native, so he can speak to this. You know, 14 00:00:51,697 --> 00:00:54,057 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about ice stuff too, So anyone wants 15 00:00:54,097 --> 00:00:55,777 Speaker 2: to get the harsani take on that, we'll get there 16 00:00:55,777 --> 00:00:57,497 Speaker 2: in a second. I just feel like everyone's ever and 17 00:00:57,577 --> 00:01:00,977 Speaker 2: so focus on this, so it's completely crowded out. The 18 00:01:01,097 --> 00:01:04,297 Speaker 2: stuff that the people of Virginia, the residents of Virginia, 19 00:01:04,337 --> 00:01:06,897 Speaker 2: are being presented with right now by their new governor, 20 00:01:07,497 --> 00:01:08,777 Speaker 2: is just madness. 21 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:10,017 Speaker 3: Take us through some of it. 22 00:01:11,977 --> 00:01:13,897 Speaker 1: Well, I have to correct one thing you said quickly 23 00:01:13,977 --> 00:01:16,697 Speaker 1: for myself is that I'm not a Virginia native. I 24 00:01:16,697 --> 00:01:19,417 Speaker 1: do live here, but I'm a New York native. Oh 25 00:01:19,457 --> 00:01:22,057 Speaker 1: there we go. Sure, yeah, well yeah, no, I only 26 00:01:22,097 --> 00:01:25,337 Speaker 1: say that because I I came here thinking it was 27 00:01:25,377 --> 00:01:28,417 Speaker 1: going to be far more conservative than it actually turned 28 00:01:28,457 --> 00:01:33,097 Speaker 1: out to be when I moved here, and it's only 29 00:01:33,097 --> 00:01:35,537 Speaker 1: going to get worse obviously, Like you said, it's all 30 00:01:35,577 --> 00:01:39,057 Speaker 1: these people from from the DC suburbs ruining Virginia like 31 00:01:39,097 --> 00:01:41,697 Speaker 1: they ruined other states I've been in, like Colorado where 32 00:01:41,697 --> 00:01:44,817 Speaker 1: they moved to Denver and ruined it, or you know elsewhere. 33 00:01:44,857 --> 00:01:48,697 Speaker 1: But anyway, so, Abigail Spamberger is our new governor here. 34 00:01:49,017 --> 00:01:52,257 Speaker 1: She ran as a moderate I think smartly right. It 35 00:01:52,337 --> 00:01:54,937 Speaker 1: was so her her agenda was like you didn't even 36 00:01:54,937 --> 00:01:57,137 Speaker 1: know what she believed in. She just kept You wouldn't 37 00:01:57,137 --> 00:01:59,617 Speaker 1: even know she was a Democrat watching the ads right. 38 00:02:00,257 --> 00:02:05,737 Speaker 1: First thing when she comes in, she immediately gets rid 39 00:02:05,737 --> 00:02:09,377 Speaker 1: of in executive order that young Kin had that told 40 00:02:09,417 --> 00:02:12,137 Speaker 1: local police work with ice. So obviously she doesn't believe 41 00:02:12,297 --> 00:02:16,177 Speaker 1: illegal immigration is a problem here in Virginia. I disagree, 42 00:02:16,777 --> 00:02:18,977 Speaker 1: you know, pirically speaking, I think I've seen a lot 43 00:02:18,977 --> 00:02:22,777 Speaker 1: of problems here in that regard. The next thing she 44 00:02:22,817 --> 00:02:26,097 Speaker 1: does is the Democrats have a constitutional amendment they're going 45 00:02:26,137 --> 00:02:29,257 Speaker 1: to put up that makes abortion a right in the 46 00:02:29,297 --> 00:02:36,297 Speaker 1: Constitution of Virginia from conception until birth. So that is 47 00:02:36,297 --> 00:02:39,297 Speaker 1: incredibly radical and wherever you know, most people who even 48 00:02:39,337 --> 00:02:42,337 Speaker 1: are pro choice don't go that far in their beliefs. 49 00:02:45,137 --> 00:02:48,937 Speaker 1: When it comes to green stuff, she immediately put Virginia 50 00:02:49,017 --> 00:02:51,817 Speaker 1: back gosh, I forget what the name of it is, 51 00:02:51,817 --> 00:02:55,417 Speaker 1: but this compact with other states that costs Virginia taxpayers 52 00:02:55,497 --> 00:03:00,577 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars but does nothing to lower missions, 53 00:03:00,617 --> 00:03:05,377 Speaker 1: just another green boondoggle. She immediately put I think twenty 54 00:03:05,457 --> 00:03:09,297 Speaker 1: seven new people on boards of colleges in Virginia who 55 00:03:09,337 --> 00:03:12,697 Speaker 1: are de I types, who don't you know, who believe 56 00:03:12,737 --> 00:03:16,417 Speaker 1: in all, you know, all kinds of affirmative action. And 57 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:18,857 Speaker 1: then of course there are Democrats who have a slew 58 00:03:18,897 --> 00:03:20,817 Speaker 1: of bills that we can't even go through that are 59 00:03:20,937 --> 00:03:26,377 Speaker 1: just everything you imagine like Zoron Mamdani would do, like 60 00:03:26,497 --> 00:03:28,577 Speaker 1: they're doing it here, and yet. 61 00:03:28,457 --> 00:03:31,457 Speaker 2: They're banning they're banning semion a whole range of semi 62 00:03:31,497 --> 00:03:35,217 Speaker 2: automatic legislation, semi automatic rifles and pistols. I mean, I 63 00:03:35,217 --> 00:03:36,977 Speaker 2: have family. I still I have an uncle who lives 64 00:03:36,977 --> 00:03:40,377 Speaker 2: in Virginia's you know, very pro two A. And people 65 00:03:40,377 --> 00:03:42,577 Speaker 2: are just like, well, wait a second. None of us 66 00:03:42,657 --> 00:03:46,057 Speaker 2: was even discussed in this campaign. And now and now 67 00:03:46,097 --> 00:03:47,857 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're banning guns. 68 00:03:48,737 --> 00:03:52,097 Speaker 1: Like, think about it, concealed firearms now have you know 69 00:03:52,577 --> 00:03:55,217 Speaker 1: up to I think seventeen plus one mags, right, But 70 00:03:55,257 --> 00:03:57,817 Speaker 1: they're going to ban magazines at eight I think, or 71 00:03:57,857 --> 00:04:00,217 Speaker 1: whatever wherever it is now. But I don't know if 72 00:04:00,217 --> 00:04:01,977 Speaker 1: they're gonna grandfather it in. I don't know how it's 73 00:04:01,977 --> 00:04:03,817 Speaker 1: supposed to work, but I do know that it would 74 00:04:03,817 --> 00:04:06,297 Speaker 1: probably be challenged constitutionally if they do that. I mean, 75 00:04:06,377 --> 00:04:09,097 Speaker 1: Virginia has a lot of conservative people. There's gun culture here, 76 00:04:09,177 --> 00:04:12,377 Speaker 1: there's a lot of religious people. You're social conservatives. It's 77 00:04:12,857 --> 00:04:15,497 Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty ugly I think over the 78 00:04:15,497 --> 00:04:16,257 Speaker 1: next four years. 79 00:04:16,577 --> 00:04:20,497 Speaker 2: I mean they're also trying to mandate home storage requirements. 80 00:04:20,537 --> 00:04:22,377 Speaker 2: I mean this just to give some people an idea 81 00:04:22,377 --> 00:04:24,817 Speaker 2: of what this is like in New York City. And 82 00:04:24,817 --> 00:04:26,697 Speaker 2: I would I know this. I know you know this, David, 83 00:04:26,697 --> 00:04:28,497 Speaker 2: because you've looked at all these gun laws in New 84 00:04:28,577 --> 00:04:31,537 Speaker 2: York City. The law at least and while I still 85 00:04:31,577 --> 00:04:34,017 Speaker 2: live there, it might have changed in recent years, but 86 00:04:34,097 --> 00:04:38,017 Speaker 2: it was to get a to have a handgun and 87 00:04:38,057 --> 00:04:40,297 Speaker 2: to get a premise permit took like a year. It's 88 00:04:40,337 --> 00:04:42,697 Speaker 2: like five or six hundred dollars. Again, I know because 89 00:04:42,737 --> 00:04:43,377 Speaker 2: I looked into it. 90 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:45,217 Speaker 3: You have to. 91 00:04:45,257 --> 00:04:49,377 Speaker 2: Hold your gun in a lock box with a trigger 92 00:04:49,897 --> 00:04:52,737 Speaker 2: trigger guard on it or trigger lock on it, and 93 00:04:52,817 --> 00:04:58,097 Speaker 2: have the ammunition in a separate, locked container. So you 94 00:04:58,137 --> 00:05:01,577 Speaker 2: can forget about this as like a rapid home defense situation. 95 00:05:01,737 --> 00:05:03,337 Speaker 2: I mean, you're it's gonna take you to get to 96 00:05:03,377 --> 00:05:05,777 Speaker 2: get you know, locked and ready to go. 97 00:05:06,017 --> 00:05:08,577 Speaker 3: Uh you know, uh, to get it all take you 98 00:05:08,657 --> 00:05:10,897 Speaker 3: like two minutes. Crazy. 99 00:05:11,097 --> 00:05:14,417 Speaker 1: Yeah, the regulatory burden in that state and others like 100 00:05:14,457 --> 00:05:17,497 Speaker 1: even Maryland. Basically it's just there is no Second Amendment, 101 00:05:17,617 --> 00:05:20,177 Speaker 1: you know, and and and that's what it is. Yeah. 102 00:05:20,417 --> 00:05:22,297 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm you know, I'm originally from New 103 00:05:22,377 --> 00:05:23,817 Speaker 1: York and my dad wanted to get a gun when 104 00:05:23,857 --> 00:05:25,497 Speaker 1: I was growing up. It was so hard to get 105 00:05:25,497 --> 00:05:28,697 Speaker 1: that virtually was impossible for him to protect himself. And 106 00:05:28,737 --> 00:05:30,257 Speaker 1: then when you do get a gun, like you say, 107 00:05:30,297 --> 00:05:33,617 Speaker 1: they continually pile on these laws. That's that's where where 108 00:05:33,697 --> 00:05:36,297 Speaker 1: Virginia's had it. Now, I guess, so this is. 109 00:05:36,217 --> 00:05:38,657 Speaker 2: The because you were obviously paying closer attention to this 110 00:05:38,657 --> 00:05:40,217 Speaker 2: as a resident than a lot of people listening. 111 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:41,897 Speaker 3: But I just we talked about it a bit on the. 112 00:05:41,977 --> 00:05:45,297 Speaker 2: Radio show, and I was even saying this. I was like, 113 00:05:45,457 --> 00:05:49,577 Speaker 2: they're running this span Burger chick. It was also like, me, 114 00:05:49,817 --> 00:05:52,057 Speaker 2: x Cia, so don't hold that against me. They're running 115 00:05:52,097 --> 00:05:57,137 Speaker 2: this span Burger chick. As like, what is she? Who knows? 116 00:05:57,377 --> 00:06:00,537 Speaker 2: She's just a mom. She's just a mom who wants 117 00:06:00,657 --> 00:06:04,537 Speaker 2: kids to have good things and school and healthcare and 118 00:06:04,937 --> 00:06:07,377 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm like, I don't even know what 119 00:06:07,417 --> 00:06:11,817 Speaker 2: this person stands for other than as soon as she's 120 00:06:11,857 --> 00:06:14,017 Speaker 2: in power, Democrats are going to get all this crazy 121 00:06:14,057 --> 00:06:15,177 Speaker 2: and sure enough, like. 122 00:06:15,257 --> 00:06:17,137 Speaker 3: How do they keep getting away with this? Do people 123 00:06:17,177 --> 00:06:18,657 Speaker 3: not know what the game is? 124 00:06:20,937 --> 00:06:23,137 Speaker 1: She ran basically as a law and order type. I 125 00:06:23,177 --> 00:06:26,617 Speaker 1: would say a lot of the ads had her background 126 00:06:26,617 --> 00:06:28,737 Speaker 1: in the CIA and as a cop and stuff like that. 127 00:06:29,497 --> 00:06:31,257 Speaker 1: I think part of the problem, we have to admit 128 00:06:31,337 --> 00:06:34,137 Speaker 1: it is that the Republican Party statewide here and in 129 00:06:34,177 --> 00:06:36,777 Speaker 1: other states as well, as just garbage basically. I mean 130 00:06:37,017 --> 00:06:39,217 Speaker 1: they did not put up good candidates. I mean the 131 00:06:39,257 --> 00:06:42,697 Speaker 1: guy Jay Jones who's running for age, who was caught 132 00:06:42,897 --> 00:06:46,017 Speaker 1: texting that he hoped or wanted to see is a 133 00:06:46,137 --> 00:06:50,977 Speaker 1: Republican kids killed one Right and Smamberg were won by 134 00:06:51,057 --> 00:06:55,377 Speaker 1: fifteen points and there was just no opposition. Honestly, you know, 135 00:06:55,537 --> 00:06:58,537 Speaker 1: they were just like the Republicans were constantly talking about 136 00:06:58,657 --> 00:07:00,657 Speaker 1: boys and girls locker rooms in high school, which I 137 00:07:00,657 --> 00:07:04,417 Speaker 1: think is a genuine issue, right, But economic issues, I 138 00:07:04,417 --> 00:07:07,097 Speaker 1: think outweigh that a lot, and people are nervous about 139 00:07:07,097 --> 00:07:09,177 Speaker 1: the economy, and they thought Spamberger was going to be 140 00:07:09,217 --> 00:07:10,217 Speaker 1: a moderate and here we are are. 141 00:07:11,297 --> 00:07:15,937 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how. I guess this is why 142 00:07:15,937 --> 00:07:18,137 Speaker 2: it works. The whole game is people don't pay attention. 143 00:07:18,577 --> 00:07:20,857 Speaker 2: Because to me, if you're paying even the slightest attention, 144 00:07:21,417 --> 00:07:26,777 Speaker 2: whether in Virginia, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, the game that 145 00:07:26,857 --> 00:07:29,737 Speaker 2: Democrats play and there are some you know, there's some 146 00:07:29,857 --> 00:07:32,977 Speaker 2: variability to this, but overall, the game they play is 147 00:07:33,017 --> 00:07:36,257 Speaker 2: they run as moderates and then they govern as communists and. 148 00:07:36,177 --> 00:07:38,097 Speaker 3: This is just what they do, and they just they 149 00:07:38,137 --> 00:07:38,497 Speaker 3: go out. 150 00:07:39,417 --> 00:07:41,057 Speaker 2: I mean, I know by the way, you're like an 151 00:07:41,057 --> 00:07:43,297 Speaker 2: intellectual and you're an intellectual and a writer, and so 152 00:07:43,337 --> 00:07:45,097 Speaker 2: you don't like me saying communists because I know, but 153 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:46,857 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, they do this left. 154 00:07:46,857 --> 00:07:50,097 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no. I'm not an intellectual 155 00:07:50,137 --> 00:07:51,937 Speaker 1: and I hate commedis and I think you're right about 156 00:07:51,937 --> 00:07:54,897 Speaker 1: that in general. But I was gonna just say that Shapiro, Yeah, 157 00:07:55,537 --> 00:07:58,257 Speaker 1: we're on the same page on Commedy's okay that Shapiro 158 00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:02,777 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania ran as a moderate and governs as somewhat 159 00:08:02,817 --> 00:08:05,017 Speaker 1: of a moderate himself. Now he does that probably because 160 00:08:05,017 --> 00:08:07,457 Speaker 1: he has to deal with Republicans, but he is also 161 00:08:07,577 --> 00:08:11,057 Speaker 1: popular for doing that. And I think if spam govern 162 00:08:11,137 --> 00:08:14,337 Speaker 1: that way should probably end up being somewhat Yunkin was popular. 163 00:08:14,697 --> 00:08:17,217 Speaker 1: He was pretty conservative, but he also worked with Democrats 164 00:08:17,217 --> 00:08:19,977 Speaker 1: when he had to, and I think that people actually 165 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:21,377 Speaker 1: want some of that. I'm not one of these like 166 00:08:21,497 --> 00:08:24,257 Speaker 1: people who's, you know, all for bipartisan stuff, but when 167 00:08:24,257 --> 00:08:26,017 Speaker 1: you have a state that's a swing state like this, 168 00:08:26,257 --> 00:08:27,737 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to govern that way, I think, to 169 00:08:28,057 --> 00:08:30,577 Speaker 1: hold power and be you know, and be effective in 170 00:08:30,617 --> 00:08:30,897 Speaker 1: some way. 171 00:08:30,937 --> 00:08:33,537 Speaker 2: So it just feels like in Virginia, and I think, 172 00:08:33,537 --> 00:08:35,737 Speaker 2: I ask you, actually Wisconsin certainly, on like the Senate 173 00:08:35,817 --> 00:08:39,977 Speaker 2: race side, Michigan too, are places where every Democrat who 174 00:08:40,057 --> 00:08:44,537 Speaker 2: runs is the most down the middle, common sense, law 175 00:08:44,577 --> 00:08:46,857 Speaker 2: and order democrat you've ever heard of. And then they 176 00:08:46,897 --> 00:08:49,337 Speaker 2: actually start voting, and I'm talking about the Senate side 177 00:08:49,337 --> 00:08:51,777 Speaker 2: of things, for example, and they're just lockstep with whatever 178 00:08:51,857 --> 00:08:54,497 Speaker 2: the hell the crazy Democrats want. I mean, all that 179 00:08:54,537 --> 00:08:58,417 Speaker 2: goes out the window. And with Spamberger, it's such an 180 00:08:58,457 --> 00:09:01,337 Speaker 2: obvious bait and switch that happened here, and I just 181 00:09:01,857 --> 00:09:03,657 Speaker 2: you know, but Democrats are gonna they're gonna try to 182 00:09:03,657 --> 00:09:04,977 Speaker 2: do a lot of things in that state that I 183 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:07,097 Speaker 2: think make it really hard, you know. I think that 184 00:09:07,177 --> 00:09:09,017 Speaker 2: the calculate You're right about Pennsylvania. By the way, I 185 00:09:09,057 --> 00:09:12,897 Speaker 2: was actually thinking ahead. I'm like Fetterman actually was. I 186 00:09:13,097 --> 00:09:15,337 Speaker 2: think Fetterman was thought of as more left wing than 187 00:09:15,337 --> 00:09:17,297 Speaker 2: he ended up being in some way. He's kind of 188 00:09:17,617 --> 00:09:21,017 Speaker 2: he's a little bit of a of an eccentric in 189 00:09:21,137 --> 00:09:23,857 Speaker 2: politics in some ways because you and I look, you 190 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:25,657 Speaker 2: and I would agree. He says good things on it, 191 00:09:25,817 --> 00:09:28,737 Speaker 2: he says good things on Israel and really Jews, and 192 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:31,257 Speaker 2: he says good things on immigration, other things. He's very 193 00:09:31,297 --> 00:09:35,457 Speaker 2: problematic for me anyway. I just see with what happened 194 00:09:35,497 --> 00:09:38,577 Speaker 2: in Virginia, you're just like and man, there's something also 195 00:09:38,617 --> 00:09:39,057 Speaker 2: about you. 196 00:09:39,057 --> 00:09:40,217 Speaker 3: You come across this too. 197 00:09:40,857 --> 00:09:45,777 Speaker 2: The the smug Virginia lib who lives in a super 198 00:09:45,937 --> 00:09:50,617 Speaker 2: high income suburb of DC is among the worst lib 199 00:09:50,617 --> 00:09:54,497 Speaker 2: in the country. Like, there's something particularly odious to me 200 00:09:54,617 --> 00:09:56,737 Speaker 2: about that, because I all know they all used to 201 00:09:56,737 --> 00:09:58,457 Speaker 2: work at Langley and like I was around a lot 202 00:09:58,457 --> 00:09:58,977 Speaker 2: of these people. 203 00:09:59,377 --> 00:10:00,457 Speaker 3: They're the worst. 204 00:10:00,937 --> 00:10:04,137 Speaker 4: They're the there the My kids go to like either 205 00:10:04,177 --> 00:10:06,697 Speaker 4: the most elite public school in the country it depending 206 00:10:06,737 --> 00:10:08,857 Speaker 4: on where they are, or go to like a fifty 207 00:10:08,897 --> 00:10:11,257 Speaker 4: thousand dollar year of private scho but like, we need 208 00:10:11,257 --> 00:10:13,777 Speaker 4: to shut down all the charter schools in DC next door, 209 00:10:13,857 --> 00:10:17,297 Speaker 4: because you know, we can't let like underprivileged black and 210 00:10:17,337 --> 00:10:19,737 Speaker 4: Hispanic kids actually have a chance at like a good education. 211 00:10:19,937 --> 00:10:24,177 Speaker 2: So I hate I hate the Beltway bandit lives. They're 212 00:10:24,217 --> 00:10:25,137 Speaker 2: the worst. 213 00:10:25,617 --> 00:10:27,817 Speaker 1: They are. It's like a communist invasion. When I first 214 00:10:27,857 --> 00:10:30,097 Speaker 1: got to DC many years ago, people used to say, 215 00:10:30,097 --> 00:10:31,697 Speaker 1: you can live in Maryland or you can live on 216 00:10:31,737 --> 00:10:34,497 Speaker 1: the American side of the border in Virginia. But now 217 00:10:34,577 --> 00:10:36,577 Speaker 1: it's no longer the American side of the border here 218 00:10:36,617 --> 00:10:40,057 Speaker 1: at all. Just they're annoying. They all make their living 219 00:10:40,657 --> 00:10:42,777 Speaker 1: some way connected to the federal government, so they have 220 00:10:42,897 --> 00:10:46,257 Speaker 1: like a personal stake as well and making government grow. 221 00:10:46,337 --> 00:10:48,177 Speaker 3: Well that everyone always says a whole point too. 222 00:10:48,177 --> 00:10:49,937 Speaker 2: By the way, they am not sorry to jump it, 223 00:10:49,977 --> 00:10:52,497 Speaker 2: but you and I have you see the same way. 224 00:10:52,337 --> 00:10:55,177 Speaker 3: The number of people that do something that. 225 00:10:55,137 --> 00:10:57,617 Speaker 2: You're like, that's even a job and is some kind 226 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:03,137 Speaker 2: of like nonprofit or NGO or something, making like two 227 00:11:03,617 --> 00:11:06,817 Speaker 2: three hundred grand is mind blowing when you actually look 228 00:11:06,857 --> 00:11:09,017 Speaker 2: at this stuff, like the number of people that you're like, 229 00:11:09,057 --> 00:11:11,497 Speaker 2: that's even a thing. You know, you're like an advisor 230 00:11:11,577 --> 00:11:13,737 Speaker 2: to the US Institute of Peace. You're making a quarter 231 00:11:13,737 --> 00:11:15,577 Speaker 2: of a million dollars a year, Like who are you? 232 00:11:16,697 --> 00:11:18,577 Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, I have friends I don't really know 233 00:11:18,617 --> 00:11:20,537 Speaker 1: what they do, Like I don't know what their job is. 234 00:11:20,577 --> 00:11:22,737 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying my job is anything special, I 235 00:11:22,817 --> 00:11:25,577 Speaker 1: just write stuff whatever, But I don't don't know exactly 236 00:11:25,617 --> 00:11:28,097 Speaker 1: what they're what they do, what their purpose is. And 237 00:11:28,097 --> 00:11:30,377 Speaker 1: I just want to quickly say everyone's always saying, you know, 238 00:11:30,457 --> 00:11:33,137 Speaker 1: DC people always complain they don't vote and there's this 239 00:11:33,217 --> 00:11:35,337 Speaker 1: idea that we should shrink DC and then you know, 240 00:11:35,377 --> 00:11:37,817 Speaker 1: more people could vote. But my idea is to expand 241 00:11:37,897 --> 00:11:40,657 Speaker 1: DC all the way into the Virginia suburbs of Maryland 242 00:11:40,977 --> 00:11:44,537 Speaker 1: to take voting rights away from more people who rely 243 00:11:44,657 --> 00:11:48,457 Speaker 1: on government, because that's the purpose of DC, and you know, 244 00:11:48,577 --> 00:11:52,697 Speaker 1: these people are just voting to gorge government constantly. 245 00:11:53,257 --> 00:11:55,617 Speaker 2: I would even argue that geographically, what you're saying, because 246 00:11:55,617 --> 00:11:57,817 Speaker 2: I've thought this for a long time, you'll notice that 247 00:11:57,897 --> 00:12:00,457 Speaker 2: Northwest d C is very large and Southwest d C 248 00:12:00,617 --> 00:12:05,137 Speaker 2: is very tiny. Southwest d C in every sense culturally, politically, 249 00:12:05,137 --> 00:12:10,417 Speaker 2: and really geographically, should encompass like Arlington. Arlington, Virginia be 250 00:12:10,457 --> 00:12:12,617 Speaker 2: a part of it, should just be because that's really 251 00:12:12,657 --> 00:12:15,497 Speaker 2: what it's just the expansion. You crossed the river, it's anyway. 252 00:12:15,737 --> 00:12:17,977 Speaker 2: So I'm actually with you with you on that idea. 253 00:12:18,057 --> 00:12:19,617 Speaker 2: But yeah, the these throwing. 254 00:12:19,497 --> 00:12:23,177 Speaker 1: Throwing, Bethesda, throwing, Alexandria, all these places should be in DC. 255 00:12:23,897 --> 00:12:26,057 Speaker 2: I only think about Alexandria's is really pretty in the 256 00:12:26,097 --> 00:12:28,257 Speaker 2: old Town. So I feel like, I like, I wish 257 00:12:28,377 --> 00:12:30,377 Speaker 2: that that could be. I wish we could keep that, 258 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:32,217 Speaker 2: but I know we can't because it's it's full of 259 00:12:32,337 --> 00:12:35,857 Speaker 2: it's full of very rich comedies as well. It's always falling. Yeah, 260 00:12:35,857 --> 00:12:38,137 Speaker 2: people are like, I always love this thing. People who 261 00:12:38,417 --> 00:12:40,377 Speaker 2: communists aren't rich, No, actually they are. 262 00:12:41,017 --> 00:12:43,617 Speaker 3: This is like they don't teach anything to anybody anymore. 263 00:12:43,737 --> 00:12:47,177 Speaker 2: Like people actually believe that what Mark said about stuff 264 00:12:47,217 --> 00:12:50,377 Speaker 2: is somehow the reality of how communist regimes operate. I'm like, 265 00:12:50,417 --> 00:12:53,097 Speaker 2: all right, anyway, you know this is a whole the 266 00:12:53,177 --> 00:12:55,417 Speaker 2: whole other conversation. Get me fired up here. We got 267 00:12:55,417 --> 00:12:57,377 Speaker 2: a sponsor, but let's talk ice. We come back here. 268 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,017 Speaker 2: As in immigration and customs enforcement, I want the HARSANYI 269 00:13:00,097 --> 00:13:01,697 Speaker 2: take on what's going on in Minneapolis. 270 00:13:01,897 --> 00:13:03,057 Speaker 3: We'll get there here in a second. 271 00:13:03,097 --> 00:13:07,657 Speaker 2: But gold gold's up seven percent the last twenty years, 272 00:13:07,697 --> 00:13:09,977 Speaker 2: sixty percent last year, and already up again this year 273 00:13:10,097 --> 00:13:12,737 Speaker 2: from last year's so it's hitting all time highs in 274 00:13:12,817 --> 00:13:13,577 Speaker 2: recent days. 275 00:13:14,017 --> 00:13:14,857 Speaker 3: Gold makes sense. 276 00:13:14,937 --> 00:13:17,697 Speaker 2: I just bought more gold myself and just for the 277 00:13:17,737 --> 00:13:21,777 Speaker 2: next few days until February first. I believe if you're 278 00:13:21,777 --> 00:13:24,057 Speaker 2: a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold's offering a rebate 279 00:13:24,057 --> 00:13:26,857 Speaker 2: of up to ten thousand dollars on qualifying purchases. Birch 280 00:13:26,897 --> 00:13:28,577 Speaker 2: Golds who I buy my gold from To start the 281 00:13:28,617 --> 00:13:31,697 Speaker 2: process and claim eligibility, text my name buck to ninety 282 00:13:31,737 --> 00:13:34,017 Speaker 2: eight ninety eight ninety eight. Birch Gold can help you 283 00:13:34,097 --> 00:13:36,337 Speaker 2: roll in existing IRA or four oh one K into 284 00:13:36,337 --> 00:13:38,697 Speaker 2: an IRA and gold and you're still eligible for a 285 00:13:38,737 --> 00:13:41,497 Speaker 2: rebate of up to ten thousand dollars. Make this month 286 00:13:41,537 --> 00:13:43,817 Speaker 2: your first time buying gold. Take advantage of a rebate 287 00:13:43,817 --> 00:13:45,497 Speaker 2: of up to ten thousand dollars when you buy by 288 00:13:45,537 --> 00:13:48,577 Speaker 2: January thirtieth. Text my name buck do ninety eight ninety 289 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:51,737 Speaker 2: eight ninety eight claim your eligibility today. All right, David, 290 00:13:52,377 --> 00:13:54,497 Speaker 2: this audience will be very familiar with the you know, 291 00:13:54,537 --> 00:13:56,377 Speaker 2: the basics of ice and we're talking about on radio. 292 00:13:56,377 --> 00:13:58,377 Speaker 2: I've been talking about a podcast. But just where we 293 00:13:58,417 --> 00:14:00,297 Speaker 2: stand now, it feels like Trump is set. He's had 294 00:14:00,297 --> 00:14:03,737 Speaker 2: these calls. You have the petty shooting. The petty shooting, 295 00:14:03,777 --> 00:14:05,897 Speaker 2: there were you know, the the other ones up to 296 00:14:06,017 --> 00:14:09,817 Speaker 2: the other shooting. Rather I think is fully lawful, tragic 297 00:14:09,857 --> 00:14:14,217 Speaker 2: but awful. This one, you know, it looks like it 298 00:14:14,657 --> 00:14:18,977 Speaker 2: might have been a good faith but tragic mistake on 299 00:14:19,017 --> 00:14:21,577 Speaker 2: the part of some of the officer that fired. Point 300 00:14:21,617 --> 00:14:25,057 Speaker 2: here is they're finally getting some traction with the anti 301 00:14:25,137 --> 00:14:27,697 Speaker 2: ICE operation narrative. What do you think Trump should do? 302 00:14:27,737 --> 00:14:28,897 Speaker 2: What do you think is going on here? 303 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,457 Speaker 1: I actually agree with all that. I think the second 304 00:14:32,497 --> 00:14:34,737 Speaker 1: shooting I didn't do like a forensic look at the 305 00:14:34,817 --> 00:14:38,337 Speaker 1: video or anything out of my expertise, you know, but 306 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:43,097 Speaker 1: it looks more troublesome. So yeah, and both tragic. So 307 00:14:43,177 --> 00:14:45,817 Speaker 1: here's the thing, though, just because their tragic shooting happens 308 00:14:45,817 --> 00:14:48,457 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I don't think ICE's purpose is right, 309 00:14:48,537 --> 00:14:50,257 Speaker 1: or I don't think what Trump is doing is right. 310 00:14:50,297 --> 00:14:52,817 Speaker 1: Those things are separate issues for me at least, And 311 00:14:52,897 --> 00:14:54,977 Speaker 1: I think Trump can't really back off now in a 312 00:14:54,977 --> 00:14:58,577 Speaker 1: way because then he's let It's not even a heckler's veto. 313 00:14:58,617 --> 00:15:00,257 Speaker 1: It's just that you're letting the mob tell you how 314 00:15:00,257 --> 00:15:02,257 Speaker 1: to govern the country. It's not how it works. Like 315 00:15:02,537 --> 00:15:05,297 Speaker 1: I says, every right to be there. Federal officials control 316 00:15:05,417 --> 00:15:09,777 Speaker 1: the border and immigration law, and Trump can't back off 317 00:15:09,777 --> 00:15:12,617 Speaker 1: on that. Should he go about it differently? Do you 318 00:15:12,657 --> 00:15:15,457 Speaker 1: need different leadership? But you know all that? Yeah, maybe 319 00:15:15,457 --> 00:15:18,657 Speaker 1: you do. I don't know, But you can't back off 320 00:15:18,737 --> 00:15:20,697 Speaker 1: now in a hole. It doesn't look like he has. 321 00:15:20,737 --> 00:15:22,377 Speaker 1: It looks like he talked to walls, and they sort 322 00:15:22,377 --> 00:15:24,777 Speaker 1: of made a deal and now they're moving forward. And 323 00:15:24,817 --> 00:15:27,257 Speaker 1: I think you need to do that most Americans, I 324 00:15:27,257 --> 00:15:31,777 Speaker 1: think you can't let the mob dictate or convince you 325 00:15:31,817 --> 00:15:34,537 Speaker 1: that there's public opinion that doesn't exist. Most people don't 326 00:15:34,617 --> 00:15:35,697 Speaker 1: like illegal immigration. 327 00:15:36,377 --> 00:15:41,097 Speaker 2: And also though I think there's something so dishonest about well, 328 00:15:42,017 --> 00:15:43,617 Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of room there with 329 00:15:43,657 --> 00:15:46,297 Speaker 2: the way the media shows this stuff. You know, this 330 00:15:46,337 --> 00:15:51,537 Speaker 2: sort of anti Trump media, Democrat media, whatever, this idea 331 00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:54,697 Speaker 2: that the opposition is to the way these operations are 332 00:15:54,737 --> 00:15:57,977 Speaker 2: being done. I have to keep reminding everybody there is 333 00:15:58,257 --> 00:16:04,137 Speaker 2: no form of ice arresting and deporting illegals that these 334 00:16:04,337 --> 00:16:07,457 Speaker 2: people would be okay with and accept. 335 00:16:07,737 --> 00:16:07,897 Speaker 1: Right. 336 00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:09,737 Speaker 2: This is why I feel like there's a there's a 337 00:16:09,777 --> 00:16:12,297 Speaker 2: fun nd mental dishonesty in this whole thing. They're saying, oh, 338 00:16:12,337 --> 00:16:15,217 Speaker 2: they're acting like gestapo. Okay, well, they won't let them 339 00:16:15,217 --> 00:16:18,377 Speaker 2: into the prisons to get people who are already arrested 340 00:16:18,417 --> 00:16:20,537 Speaker 2: for other things, were being held or you know, being 341 00:16:20,577 --> 00:16:23,817 Speaker 2: processed for other crimes. They won't work with, they won't 342 00:16:23,857 --> 00:16:27,457 Speaker 2: they won't do anything in these sanctuary jurisdictions. The only 343 00:16:27,497 --> 00:16:30,257 Speaker 2: option that is to go out into the streets and 344 00:16:30,337 --> 00:16:33,377 Speaker 2: actually arrest people who they're looking for, who are violating 345 00:16:33,457 --> 00:16:36,297 Speaker 2: law in the country illegally. And there's no version of 346 00:16:36,337 --> 00:16:37,937 Speaker 2: this where the people that are being arrested are going 347 00:16:37,977 --> 00:16:39,497 Speaker 2: to be happy about it. Like if they show me 348 00:16:39,537 --> 00:16:43,017 Speaker 2: one more illegal who's arrested, who looks unhappier, who's crying, 349 00:16:43,137 --> 00:16:45,337 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, this is you know, if people get 350 00:16:45,417 --> 00:16:47,937 Speaker 2: arrested for tax evasion, they cry too, Like this is 351 00:16:47,977 --> 00:16:48,817 Speaker 2: the deal, folks. 352 00:16:50,937 --> 00:16:53,137 Speaker 1: I agree with all of that. You know, there's no 353 00:16:53,977 --> 00:16:56,297 Speaker 1: for most there's not going to be any level of 354 00:16:56,377 --> 00:16:58,017 Speaker 1: enforcement that they're going to like. It's like when you 355 00:16:58,057 --> 00:17:01,297 Speaker 1: when they tell you, for instance, I'm against assault rifles. 356 00:17:01,377 --> 00:17:03,857 Speaker 1: Well if you once you dig deeper, boom, they're against 357 00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:06,777 Speaker 1: all guns. It's the way it is every time. But 358 00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:08,737 Speaker 1: there's a kind of a broader issue to where there's 359 00:17:08,777 --> 00:17:11,497 Speaker 1: just this like protest cult that drives me crazy, where 360 00:17:11,537 --> 00:17:16,297 Speaker 1: people think they're patriotic just because they're protesting like this 361 00:17:16,537 --> 00:17:18,697 Speaker 1: and it's the newest thing for them. There was BLM, 362 00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:20,737 Speaker 1: and then it was GAZA, and now it's ice and 363 00:17:20,777 --> 00:17:22,577 Speaker 1: tomorrow who knows what it's going to be. And it's 364 00:17:22,577 --> 00:17:26,017 Speaker 1: this hysteria they create and they won with BLM in 365 00:17:26,057 --> 00:17:27,697 Speaker 1: a way. But you can't let them win here. This 366 00:17:27,777 --> 00:17:29,857 Speaker 1: is illegal stuff. If you don't like what's going on 367 00:17:29,937 --> 00:17:32,417 Speaker 1: with ice. We live in a free country. You can 368 00:17:32,497 --> 00:17:34,617 Speaker 1: elect people who are going to make ice go away 369 00:17:34,737 --> 00:17:38,057 Speaker 1: or whatever you want. But Trump won the election. He 370 00:17:38,177 --> 00:17:40,457 Speaker 1: was very clear on this issue, and he has the 371 00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:43,817 Speaker 1: right to send at ice to Minnesota. So and you 372 00:17:43,857 --> 00:17:47,257 Speaker 1: notice this doesn't happen in states where local officials work 373 00:17:47,337 --> 00:17:50,577 Speaker 1: with the federal government, right, doesn't happen in Texas, doesn't 374 00:17:50,617 --> 00:17:54,497 Speaker 1: happen in wherever, Florida, but it happens in Minnesota for 375 00:17:54,537 --> 00:17:54,937 Speaker 1: a reason. 376 00:17:56,377 --> 00:17:59,617 Speaker 2: What's happened to Minnesota? Like, how do you diagnose? I 377 00:17:59,857 --> 00:18:01,257 Speaker 2: used to go there when I was a kid. So 378 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,497 Speaker 2: now I'm old David, So that was like almost you know, 379 00:18:03,537 --> 00:18:05,817 Speaker 2: I don't know, thirty something years ago, we'd go there 380 00:18:05,817 --> 00:18:08,137 Speaker 2: with my family to go on camping trips because, like 381 00:18:08,137 --> 00:18:10,577 Speaker 2: they you know, it's such a pristine wilderness up you know, 382 00:18:10,697 --> 00:18:12,297 Speaker 2: north along the border with Canada. 383 00:18:12,737 --> 00:18:14,257 Speaker 3: And now it's. 384 00:18:14,137 --> 00:18:16,857 Speaker 2: Like it's like a frozen well I was gonna say, 385 00:18:16,857 --> 00:18:19,617 Speaker 2: it's like American Siberia. It's like the communists are running 386 00:18:19,617 --> 00:18:20,977 Speaker 2: the show up there. What the hell's going on. 387 00:18:22,337 --> 00:18:24,097 Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it, but I'll say that 388 00:18:24,177 --> 00:18:27,057 Speaker 1: there they've been Democrats for a long time. I don't 389 00:18:27,057 --> 00:18:30,737 Speaker 1: think a Republican has won there since maybe Reagan eighties. 390 00:18:30,857 --> 00:18:32,577 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been forty years. 391 00:18:33,617 --> 00:18:36,617 Speaker 1: But they had a certain kind of union member, kind 392 00:18:36,697 --> 00:18:39,537 Speaker 1: of like working class kind of democrat that was a 393 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:43,257 Speaker 1: little different. And now that's morphed into something really I mean, 394 00:18:43,337 --> 00:18:45,017 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are still many of those around, 395 00:18:45,017 --> 00:18:46,737 Speaker 1: but it's morphed into in the big cities at least, 396 00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:50,177 Speaker 1: into something very far left wing and very violent, right. 397 00:18:50,257 --> 00:18:52,897 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where you know, there's been violence 398 00:18:52,937 --> 00:18:57,137 Speaker 1: here before, and I don't know, it's it's troubling, I think. 399 00:18:58,057 --> 00:19:00,737 Speaker 1: I mean, these are tragic incidents, and we you know, 400 00:19:00,737 --> 00:19:03,857 Speaker 1: I don't want to belittle that, and it's you know, 401 00:19:04,177 --> 00:19:07,177 Speaker 1: especially that first one. It's just unnecessary. People are hysterical, 402 00:19:07,497 --> 00:19:07,657 Speaker 1: you know. 403 00:19:08,217 --> 00:19:14,577 Speaker 2: We resent all these people like I resent on Morning Joe, 404 00:19:14,697 --> 00:19:18,257 Speaker 2: these people who are millionaires sitting in uh, you know, 405 00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:20,577 Speaker 2: studios or whatever. Look, I'm sitting in a studio now 406 00:19:20,617 --> 00:19:22,857 Speaker 2: and people could lob things at me, but I would 407 00:19:22,897 --> 00:19:26,457 Speaker 2: just say, I'm not encouraging people in the freezing cold 408 00:19:26,497 --> 00:19:29,937 Speaker 2: to go scream in the faces of armed law enforcement 409 00:19:29,977 --> 00:19:32,857 Speaker 2: officers and get in the way of their cars with 410 00:19:32,977 --> 00:19:36,897 Speaker 2: their car sometimes and and threaten them and be like, 411 00:19:37,217 --> 00:19:40,657 Speaker 2: you're inciting you know, you're you're you're inviting people to 412 00:19:40,697 --> 00:19:45,257 Speaker 2: do very stupid things. You're telling people to play. You know, 413 00:19:45,657 --> 00:19:47,657 Speaker 2: how how close can I jump in front of the 414 00:19:47,697 --> 00:19:50,497 Speaker 2: train as it passes without getting hit? Well, when someone 415 00:19:50,537 --> 00:19:52,177 Speaker 2: gets hit and you think that that's a fun game 416 00:19:52,217 --> 00:19:54,897 Speaker 2: you've been telling everyone to play. I think that there's 417 00:19:54,897 --> 00:19:57,737 Speaker 2: some culpability there, at least morally. I know it's not legal, 418 00:19:57,777 --> 00:19:59,177 Speaker 2: but it's moral culpability. 419 00:20:00,297 --> 00:20:02,217 Speaker 1: No, I agree. There's things you can do, and there's 420 00:20:02,257 --> 00:20:05,537 Speaker 1: things you can do, but you shouldn't do. And like 421 00:20:05,657 --> 00:20:07,377 Speaker 1: if you have cops around you and you're going to 422 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:10,057 Speaker 1: hit the gas, tragic thing is going to happen. Now 423 00:20:10,297 --> 00:20:12,617 Speaker 1: that and everyone should know that. And another thing like 424 00:20:12,657 --> 00:20:16,417 Speaker 1: everyone slows down these videos and all that. I'm sorry. 425 00:20:16,497 --> 00:20:18,977 Speaker 1: It's actually a split second decision. Cops usually you have 426 00:20:19,017 --> 00:20:20,617 Speaker 1: to make I don't know about the second one. Definitely 427 00:20:20,657 --> 00:20:22,497 Speaker 1: in the first one, he's got to make a decision 428 00:20:22,697 --> 00:20:25,417 Speaker 1: right there. And I have never been in that position, 429 00:20:25,697 --> 00:20:27,577 Speaker 1: and it's very difficult for me. To just be like 430 00:20:27,697 --> 00:20:30,257 Speaker 1: that's murder, like I hear that's an execution. No, it's not. 431 00:20:30,377 --> 00:20:33,177 Speaker 1: It's tragic. But I'm not a cop. I'm sitting here 432 00:20:33,337 --> 00:20:36,417 Speaker 1: in a room and I don't know what went on before. 433 00:20:36,537 --> 00:20:38,897 Speaker 1: I don't know what the guys you know, what's happened 434 00:20:38,897 --> 00:20:41,457 Speaker 1: to that cop before, and so I don't know. I 435 00:20:41,497 --> 00:20:45,537 Speaker 1: think people should give them some leeway. I'm not saying 436 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:46,737 Speaker 1: it's so you know, I'm not saying it should go 437 00:20:46,737 --> 00:20:49,817 Speaker 1: around act like you know, bullies, but we should give 438 00:20:49,857 --> 00:20:51,497 Speaker 1: them some leeway when they're in dangerous. 439 00:20:51,177 --> 00:20:53,697 Speaker 2: Situations, especially when people are making things harder for them. 440 00:20:53,737 --> 00:20:55,977 Speaker 2: And all this stuff too, with the noisemakers and the 441 00:20:56,057 --> 00:20:57,937 Speaker 2: rape whistles that they're using and all this stuff. 442 00:20:58,057 --> 00:20:58,617 Speaker 3: I bet. 443 00:20:58,617 --> 00:21:00,097 Speaker 2: Just so you know, David, I'm and if you want 444 00:21:00,097 --> 00:21:01,897 Speaker 2: to take this term and run with it, please, I'm 445 00:21:01,937 --> 00:21:05,137 Speaker 2: calling them sabotage operations. Did not it's not a protest, 446 00:21:05,537 --> 00:21:07,777 Speaker 2: like you driving your car in front of other cops 447 00:21:07,777 --> 00:21:10,617 Speaker 2: so they can't do something is not protest legal, and 448 00:21:10,617 --> 00:21:13,457 Speaker 2: it's and you're sabotaging law enforcement operations. So I just 449 00:21:13,497 --> 00:21:16,337 Speaker 2: think that the whole notion, it's like the mostly mostly 450 00:21:16,377 --> 00:21:19,617 Speaker 2: peaceful protest where buildings are on fire during BLM, Like 451 00:21:19,697 --> 00:21:21,977 Speaker 2: the buildings being on fire is actually the point. No 452 00:21:22,017 --> 00:21:24,657 Speaker 2: one cares about the peaceful protest. Fine, do that, but 453 00:21:24,697 --> 00:21:27,297 Speaker 2: we don't care. The point that gets everyone's attention is 454 00:21:27,297 --> 00:21:31,057 Speaker 2: the illegal stuff that's ominous and threatening and undermines law 455 00:21:31,097 --> 00:21:31,497 Speaker 2: and order. 456 00:21:32,817 --> 00:21:35,657 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a role for civil disobedience when 457 00:21:35,697 --> 00:21:37,857 Speaker 1: you're actually fighting for some freedom or something. I mean, 458 00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:40,017 Speaker 1: there's you know, but if you're there's consequences to that 459 00:21:40,097 --> 00:21:41,977 Speaker 1: as well. And if you're gonna put yourself in front 460 00:21:42,017 --> 00:21:44,497 Speaker 1: of a cop to stop him from doing his job, 461 00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:47,897 Speaker 1: which is legitimate, which which we we we came to 462 00:21:48,537 --> 00:21:51,417 Speaker 1: through democracy. We didn't just they're not these aren't gestoppo 463 00:21:52,057 --> 00:21:54,657 Speaker 1: and they're doing something. You know, there's there's consequences to pay. 464 00:21:54,657 --> 00:21:56,377 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's okay to shoot people again, but 465 00:21:56,537 --> 00:21:58,537 Speaker 1: you know, we all have to have some common sense, 466 00:21:58,577 --> 00:21:58,897 Speaker 1: I think. 467 00:21:58,977 --> 00:22:01,457 Speaker 2: So, Yeah, David has to throw in some provisos or 468 00:22:01,937 --> 00:22:04,137 Speaker 2: some softening at the end there because he lives in 469 00:22:04,217 --> 00:22:07,297 Speaker 2: Virginia and some of his neighbors are probably lunatic leftists, 470 00:22:07,337 --> 00:22:09,097 Speaker 2: So there's always that You've always got to keep the 471 00:22:09,657 --> 00:22:13,337 Speaker 2: got to that's why you might see some maniacs at 472 00:22:13,337 --> 00:22:15,377 Speaker 2: the at the the property line. 473 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:17,857 Speaker 3: They're trueing their hedges. Buddy, you know it's the reality. 474 00:22:18,937 --> 00:22:21,057 Speaker 1: This is why I stay, That's why I'm a shut 475 00:22:21,057 --> 00:22:22,497 Speaker 1: in and build an armory. Here. 476 00:22:22,737 --> 00:22:24,657 Speaker 3: There's this there's this place, David, I want to tell 477 00:22:24,697 --> 00:22:27,457 Speaker 3: you about. There's this place, especially. 478 00:22:27,177 --> 00:22:29,577 Speaker 2: Right now as you're wearing that itchy sweater and I'm 479 00:22:29,617 --> 00:22:31,537 Speaker 2: sitting walk outside of the sunset. 480 00:22:31,697 --> 00:22:33,977 Speaker 3: There's this place you left New York. I left New York? 481 00:22:34,217 --> 00:22:34,537 Speaker 3: Did you? 482 00:22:34,577 --> 00:22:38,857 Speaker 2: Did you run out of gas because you stopped short 483 00:22:38,937 --> 00:22:39,737 Speaker 2: of where you need to go? 484 00:22:39,817 --> 00:22:42,697 Speaker 3: This place called Florida, David, Florida. 485 00:22:43,337 --> 00:22:45,537 Speaker 1: I tell you weeks like this. I'm kind of mad 486 00:22:45,577 --> 00:22:48,177 Speaker 1: at myself. Yeah, because I thought it wouldn't be that 487 00:22:48,257 --> 00:22:51,657 Speaker 1: cold where I am, But it's it's cold, so I 488 00:22:51,697 --> 00:22:53,857 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe we'll be neighbors in the future. 489 00:22:53,897 --> 00:22:56,177 Speaker 2: Right now, for you, we have room government De Santis 490 00:22:56,257 --> 00:22:58,057 Speaker 2: will welcome you, okay, for you. There's a room for 491 00:22:58,097 --> 00:23:01,217 Speaker 2: the communists. No, but it is filling up fast, so 492 00:23:01,257 --> 00:23:02,377 Speaker 2: I would I would give it some thought. 493 00:23:02,457 --> 00:23:02,657 Speaker 3: David. 494 00:23:02,657 --> 00:23:04,577 Speaker 2: Where can people go to read your latest stuff? Keep 495 00:23:04,657 --> 00:23:07,897 Speaker 2: up with all your all your analysis, thoughts and musings. 496 00:23:08,737 --> 00:23:10,857 Speaker 1: Most of my stuff's at the Washington Examiner. You can 497 00:23:10,897 --> 00:23:13,537 Speaker 1: find me there or on Twitter or whatever. X. I'm 498 00:23:13,617 --> 00:23:14,377 Speaker 1: David Harsani. 499 00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:15,577 Speaker 3: When's the next book coming up? 500 00:23:17,097 --> 00:23:17,537 Speaker 1: I don't know. 501 00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:19,977 Speaker 2: I know books are brutal. Mine's coming out in a month, 502 00:23:20,017 --> 00:23:21,377 Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah. 503 00:23:21,057 --> 00:23:23,817 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah yeah, what what's it about. 504 00:23:24,377 --> 00:23:28,137 Speaker 2: It's called manufacturing delusion, But it's about instigating political madness actually, 505 00:23:28,417 --> 00:23:31,057 Speaker 2: and like looking at plitarian history, it's actually cool. Like 506 00:23:31,097 --> 00:23:33,257 Speaker 2: you would you, as somebody who writes and is a writer, 507 00:23:33,297 --> 00:23:34,817 Speaker 2: I think would be like, this is actually a book. 508 00:23:34,817 --> 00:23:38,017 Speaker 3: Book. It's not like book Saves America and it's just 509 00:23:38,097 --> 00:23:38,617 Speaker 3: me ranting. 510 00:23:38,657 --> 00:23:41,097 Speaker 2: It's it's like there's research, there's there's no. 511 00:23:42,577 --> 00:23:44,457 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, okay, I'll get your copies, so there. 512 00:23:44,577 --> 00:23:47,417 Speaker 1: Yeah. But writing it was brutal, right, I mean absolutely brutal, 513 00:23:47,497 --> 00:23:47,817 Speaker 1: you know. 514 00:23:47,777 --> 00:23:51,657 Speaker 2: And and hours hours in, hours out. I mean this 515 00:23:51,737 --> 00:23:54,017 Speaker 2: is why everyone just wants to do like podcasting and 516 00:23:54,337 --> 00:23:56,857 Speaker 2: be like social media stars now because you make no 517 00:23:56,937 --> 00:24:00,977 Speaker 2: money writing, Like writing is the most underpaid profession. And 518 00:24:01,057 --> 00:24:04,057 Speaker 2: I really feel like like our civilization is starting to 519 00:24:04,097 --> 00:24:05,417 Speaker 2: lose something because. 520 00:24:06,377 --> 00:24:07,017 Speaker 3: To be a writer. 521 00:24:07,137 --> 00:24:09,697 Speaker 2: Well never mind with AI and now chatchipt and all 522 00:24:09,697 --> 00:24:12,217 Speaker 2: this stuff. But to be a writer is increasingly becoming 523 00:24:12,337 --> 00:24:15,497 Speaker 2: like a not It used to be a thing that 524 00:24:15,577 --> 00:24:19,777 Speaker 2: was very hard, but there was a payoff to it, 525 00:24:19,857 --> 00:24:21,937 Speaker 2: right or there was sort of, you know, I grew 526 00:24:22,017 --> 00:24:24,057 Speaker 2: up with authors that I loved and they sold their 527 00:24:24,297 --> 00:24:26,137 Speaker 2: books and that got made into movies and all that. 528 00:24:26,137 --> 00:24:28,897 Speaker 2: You know, at least there was that. Now it's just 529 00:24:29,057 --> 00:24:31,137 Speaker 2: I feel like the publishing industry. I don't know, man, 530 00:24:31,297 --> 00:24:31,937 Speaker 2: it's tough. 531 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:35,217 Speaker 1: But you but but don't you feel personal satisfaction seeing 532 00:24:35,217 --> 00:24:37,017 Speaker 1: that you wrote a book, Like it's such a cool 533 00:24:37,057 --> 00:24:38,457 Speaker 1: thing to do now. 534 00:24:39,337 --> 00:24:41,097 Speaker 3: You know what? I like that. I'm gonna I'm gonna 535 00:24:41,137 --> 00:24:43,817 Speaker 3: I'm gonna show this. I'm gonna end on it is there? 536 00:24:43,857 --> 00:24:46,897 Speaker 3: It is? Yeah, cool, there's the satisfaction right there. I 537 00:24:46,937 --> 00:24:47,697 Speaker 3: got to actually write it. 538 00:24:47,817 --> 00:24:49,257 Speaker 1: The worst part is still to come. You have to 539 00:24:49,297 --> 00:24:51,097 Speaker 1: sell it. And that's that's the for me. 540 00:24:51,137 --> 00:24:54,577 Speaker 2: That go get your copy of Manufacturing Delusion. By the way, everybody, 541 00:24:54,617 --> 00:24:55,857 Speaker 2: I'll throw that pitch on at the end. 542 00:24:55,857 --> 00:24:58,777 Speaker 3: Harsani. Great to see you, man, Thanks for hanging today. 543 00:24:58,977 --> 00:25:00,017 Speaker 1: You too, talk to you see