Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Oh mg, it's
Speaker 1: our first episode. Never did I ever think we would
Speaker 1: be doing this. We're doing a podcast. God, podcasts all
Speaker 1: the time, and we're doing one now, this one. You guys,
Speaker 1: it's a really important podcast. We're going to be watching
Speaker 1: every episode of Beverly Hills nine one oh from start
Speaker 1: to finish with all of you. And when I say important,
Speaker 1: I mean for us, because we've never watched these shows
Speaker 1: together since it's since it started. I've never watched an
Speaker 1: episode with you. I've never watched an episode getting excited
Speaker 1: to get to see what we actually did. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna give you a little preview, a little
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. You made meaningful television. Oh thanks, so did you. Baby.
Speaker 1: We're not going to do this alone, though. We have
Speaker 1: a very special guest. May know her from Ryan Seacrest
Speaker 1: radio show, but you may not know that she's a
Speaker 1: super fan. Sissany. Not everybody, Hi, Sissany. When I first
Speaker 1: met you, Jenny, she said, I have a really hard
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a hard time with your name because
Speaker 1: I can't do s there's so many in your name.
Speaker 1: And then she proceeded to tell me that she couldn't
Speaker 1: say your name, she would never say your name. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's going to be a problem because
Speaker 1: the three of us are doing this peat you just did,
Speaker 1: I've been working on it. She she low talked it,
Speaker 1: say it loud and proud. What is her name? Say
Speaker 1: your name? Sisy? Well Ryan calls you sis, so I
Speaker 1: guess we could we could call. I said that to
Speaker 1: Jenny and she was like, that's harder, and I was like, well, Adam,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just as many. How do you
Speaker 1: say my last name? Jenny Garth spelling? Okay, Well that
Speaker 1: wasn't hard. Okay, Well, I'm really glad that you're with
Speaker 1: us this because you're going to help jog my memory
Speaker 1: because I have a really hard time remembering all that
Speaker 1: went on. But I think as we go through and
Speaker 1: we watched the episodes, maybe it'll start coming back to
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what, you guys will have the
Speaker 1: better memory than even me as a super fan. But
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go episode pre episode and I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just want to be a fly on the wall.
Speaker 1: But then I also want to just ask the question
Speaker 1: that like all the fans have. Well not not only that,
Speaker 1: like we have ten years of all this goodness that
Speaker 1: people saw on camera. But along the way, we're going
Speaker 1: to tell you what happened off camera during each episode
Speaker 1: and you remember everything. So we're detailed, sister, not to
Speaker 1: be confused with SIS, which is sisany because we haven't
Speaker 1: even started yet. So this is episode one of this podcast,
Speaker 1: and we haven't I guess done our homework and watched
Speaker 1: episode one of nine two, and oh, why don't we
Speaker 1: start Tory and Jenny explaining how you guys even got
Speaker 1: the roles of Kelling. Donna, I just told you I
Speaker 1: have a bad memory, and you start out with that question. Okay,
Speaker 1: who called you first? Was it an agent? What did
Speaker 1: you audition? Like, give me something. I auditioned, and I
Speaker 1: think what happened was the casting director I didn't think
Speaker 1: I was right for the role, so they didn't bring
Speaker 1: me back in. And then my manager went to his
Speaker 1: friend that was casting for Spelling and said, can you
Speaker 1: see her? Can you bring her in? And they brought
Speaker 1: me back in and then I got the part. I
Speaker 1: mean it was so I don't even know. That's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Stories like that happen all the time.
Speaker 1: Imagine if it never went any further, Like who could
Speaker 1: have played Kelly Taylor? I mean, I'm stepped and if
Speaker 1: you couldn't have done it? But no, but I'm so grateful.
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that my manager was persistent and you know,
Speaker 1: went back and got me the part. Who are you
Speaker 1: up against? When you screen tested? I screen tested? Well,
Speaker 1: I assume, I assume. I don't know, like I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I remember because I was, you know, behind the scenes
Speaker 1: and my dad since I was the same age and
Speaker 1: going through it at the same time that the characters,
Speaker 1: and my dad was always very hands on. So every
Speaker 1: night he would come back in his briefcase. Um, I
Speaker 1: would like click it open, like click click, and and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, here's the script, and he would have
Speaker 1: like notes from the day and like, um polaroid photos
Speaker 1: of everything. Once we went a little further and there
Speaker 1: was like hairstyles and wardrobe and everything. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the story with you Like that's like
Speaker 1: I remember hearing hearing him talk about, you know, casting
Speaker 1: Brenda and Brandon but not Kelly, so that one. Um,
Speaker 1: I wasn't privy too. When were you casting. Um. I actually,
Speaker 1: So I saw the script and I called my agent
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want audition for this, but
Speaker 1: like I really like I don't want my dad to
Speaker 1: give me a role like he always does, Like I
Speaker 1: actually this is my jam like this is me, like
Speaker 1: and my friends like I get this, Like I can
Speaker 1: do this? Can I go in and audition? I had
Speaker 1: been on Saved by the Bell, so I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this acting thing. Um. And
Speaker 1: she was like, well, you know they're going to know
Speaker 1: who you are, and I was like, no, you should
Speaker 1: tell them I'm coming in under a different name. So
Speaker 1: I made up a name, Tory Mitchell come on, which
Speaker 1: was bizarre because I had just seen it. My dad
Speaker 1: did a movie of the week called uh a blank Uh. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was Oh my god, wait Jackie Collins novel Hollywood Wives, um,
Speaker 1: and I believe it was the character that Heather Lockler
Speaker 1: blade in it. Possibly not correct, but um, she was
Speaker 1: like his lucky lucky actor lucky Penny, so he put
Speaker 1: her a lot of things. So anyway, I went, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want them to know it's me coming in,
Speaker 1: so let me do a different Tory. But let me
Speaker 1: do a character in one of my dad's shows, like
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense, And I went in read
Speaker 1: for Kelly. You read the part of Kelly I did,
Speaker 1: because there was no on it at the time. I
Speaker 1: think Donna was like friend number one or something in
Speaker 1: the script like I wouldn't if I had gotten in
Speaker 1: an audition for Donna, it would have been like Hi, Brenda,
Speaker 1: and they'd be like nailed it, Like no, like there
Speaker 1: was you know. So they just had everyone come in
Speaker 1: and read for the main parts. Ah, what if you
Speaker 1: had been Kelly and I was Donna? What would happen?
Speaker 1: Because I could never I'm not a Kelly. I could
Speaker 1: never have been a Kelly. Yeah, you're a Donna. I
Speaker 1: am for sure. I couldn't imagine either. So this is
Speaker 1: the first time you guys are hearing each other's audition
Speaker 1: stories after the you've been friends. Now she's heard mine,
Speaker 1: I've heard it everything. Now do you remember meeting each
Speaker 1: other for the first time? Yes, you you remember, She
Speaker 1: remember everything. I do not remember meeting you or any
Speaker 1: of the casts. I've got no recollection of it. So
Speaker 1: they cast everyone. My dad decides on a Sunday morning
Speaker 1: to have before they started filming to have everyone meet
Speaker 1: for the first time and have a read through. He
Speaker 1: did it at his house, which was not the manner.
Speaker 1: It was the house we lived in before. So he had,
Speaker 1: you know, bagels and drinks out and he had the
Speaker 1: casts come over and get to know each other and
Speaker 1: do a read through informal and he said, do you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it? And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: that would be weird because at the time I wasn't
Speaker 1: a serious regular. Um obviously I was friend number one,
Speaker 1: and they gave me the name Donna because I was
Speaker 1: the producer's daughter, and they're like, okay, she's Donna now
Speaker 1: at a couple more lines, and UM, I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a part of it because that
Speaker 1: felt weird. Why would I wasn't a main character, but
Speaker 1: I was. We had a two story house and the
Speaker 1: staircase overlooked and went right into the foyer, so I
Speaker 1: literally watched you from the top. I peeked through, I
Speaker 1: watched you walked through. I watched every single person walk through.
Speaker 1: I feel like Jason and Gabrielle arrived together. Ian and
Speaker 1: Gabrielle arrived to other together. That's right. I remember that
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of remember like a big living room,
Speaker 1: and I kind of remember something on the table, like
Speaker 1: a bowl full of cigarettes, a bowl of cigarettes. She's accurate. Cigarettes.
Speaker 1: They did the read through in my parents projection room,
Speaker 1: which is like was enormous, probably like the size of
Speaker 1: my current house, and um, it was a big room
Speaker 1: that looked like a living room, and then the art
Speaker 1: would go up on the wall and you could see
Speaker 1: the projection through it, and then a screen would come down,
Speaker 1: so by day it was a living room. By weekend
Speaker 1: night it was a projection room. And my mom had
Speaker 1: this thing where she would keep bowls out on the
Speaker 1: tables of candies, little chocolate Hershey's kisses and little bars
Speaker 1: and cigarettes because she smoked at the time. That goes
Speaker 1: together candy and cigarettes, but it did. Luckily I didn't
Speaker 1: smoke seriously as a teenager. My friends would come over
Speaker 1: at like sixteen and be like, is this a joke?
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, I'm like, you can't touch it.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, are you tempted to eat the candy
Speaker 1: to like sneak off smoke the cigarettes? And I never
Speaker 1: was because I was like, well, it's here every day.
Speaker 1: It's like my everyday life. So I didn't touch it.
Speaker 1: You weren't tempted by it at all. No, So, okay,
Speaker 1: the cast comes over. They're all sitting down in the
Speaker 1: smoky room. Did you eventually come down? I never came down.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of it. So who do you
Speaker 1: think was cute? Yeah? So now your memory, Jenny, it's
Speaker 1: so hard to not call you guys, Callian Donna. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm like sitting here staring at you. We're
Speaker 1: so used to it. Okay, um, so Jenny responded, any name? Okay,
Speaker 1: do you remember sitting down? Who you sat next to?
Speaker 1: Who did you think was cute? At first? I do
Speaker 1: remember just being really nervous, and I was young and
Speaker 1: super green. I had hadn't done that much acting, and um,
Speaker 1: I just remember being really nervous and in my own head,
Speaker 1: you know, and and like it was kind of surreal,
Speaker 1: like like this room is happening, this what this is
Speaker 1: happening right now? But that's pretty much all I remember.
Speaker 1: Did you have your lines highlighted? Did you have notes
Speaker 1: in your script? Knowing me? I had a binder with
Speaker 1: the scene dividers and my pen my pin protector. She's
Speaker 1: an undercover nerd. Yeah, how how do you guys mind
Speaker 1: saying how old you guys were when the show kicked off?
Speaker 1: I was I sixteen. I drove there, so I must
Speaker 1: have been sixteen sev when we did the pilots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were sixteen when the when the pilot by time
Speaker 1: we went on the air and start filming the series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was fifteen, you were sixteen. Just making reference
Speaker 1: again that she's one. Yeah, yeah, you're all know. We
Speaker 1: all know I'm a year older. By the way, you guys,
Speaker 1: this happens on a monthly basis that she'll ask me
Speaker 1: how old she is. She doesn't remember. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: She ages herself up. Remember a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: you said you were two years older, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're not that. But I don't stopped doing that. It's
Speaker 1: the numbers are getting too high that I don't go
Speaker 1: up anymore. You're like, this affects me when you do that.
Speaker 1: She forgets yeah, because then it ages me. So now, okay,
Speaker 1: so you meet Dorry did not come downstairs because she
Speaker 1: was too scared or embarrassed or whatever it was. Now
Speaker 1: you get to the set for the first time to
Speaker 1: actually start shooting. Is it in Beverly Hills? Like? Where? Where?
Speaker 1: Where did you guys drive to? Where do you go?
Speaker 1: First set was I think the high school and we
Speaker 1: we shot that at Torrance High School, which is deep
Speaker 1: in the heart of Los Angeles. It's south, it's almost
Speaker 1: Orange County. Yeah, it was far. It was so far.
Speaker 1: I had never driven that bar, and I ive ever
Speaker 1: driven anywhere out of Beverly Hills. Let's be truthful. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would like to clarify that Jennifer Eve I lived
Speaker 1: in bel Air, not Beverly Hills. Oh sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: What about you, Jenny? Where did you grow up? I
Speaker 1: grew up in a rural Illinois um, like on a
Speaker 1: farm way way out in the country. Yeah. Quite different
Speaker 1: than the character actually that I was playing. So then
Speaker 1: you moved out here at a pretty young age. Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I came out here when I was sixteen, fifteen, fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen to pursue acting to Yeah. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I was in a dancing pad. Gent
Speaker 1: Please don't ever find that video and one of the
Speaker 1: we're going to find that because you said that. Wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I love the story. Excuse me? We're fing a podcast. Sorry, wait,
Speaker 1: tell the story of how you used to put vasiline
Speaker 1: on your teeth for the pageant. I love that story.
Speaker 1: I remembered it was fascinated. Well you love this story
Speaker 1: because you love giving me about my giant teeth. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: what's our famous thing like when we're somewhere My god,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell a story. Go ahead. I used
Speaker 1: to be remember how when we're like, so we have
Speaker 1: we have this thing where uh like uh like uh
Speaker 1: when at tention breaker has to be done like an
Speaker 1: elevator for stressed. I'll look over and I just see
Speaker 1: teeth and I'm like, put those teeth away. And then
Speaker 1: she says, put that face away, and I'm like, fair,
Speaker 1: that was a fair assessment. Good point. No, I love
Speaker 1: your face. So what's the vassaline story? Was that it?
Speaker 1: There's probably a lot of vassoline stories, but the one
Speaker 1: I have is um, I used to every dancer did
Speaker 1: that put vassoline on their teeth, are like in their
Speaker 1: gums to make so you could smile longer. It's the
Speaker 1: pageant and you're so your lips would like glide over
Speaker 1: your gyormous teeth. That was the hope anyway. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I was in a dancing pageant and one
Speaker 1: of the judges was Randall C. James, and he said
Speaker 1: to me, my wife and I think you have something special.
Speaker 1: Come into this room and see if you can act. No,
Speaker 1: but it was very weird, but my mom and I
Speaker 1: met with them, and then we decided to start taking
Speaker 1: acting classes where I was living in Arizona at the time,
Speaker 1: and we started taking I started taking acting classes and
Speaker 1: sending him the tapes of like My progress. Uh, And
Speaker 1: eventually it was time to just move to l A.
Speaker 1: And so my mom and I packed our bags and
Speaker 1: drove from Phoenix to l A and rented a little
Speaker 1: apartment and I started auditioning. And I was like a
Speaker 1: knock knock on Randy James's door. Hi, I'm here now.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing is, I saw you and I'm
Speaker 1: blinking out Barbara Eden. What was the show? A brand
Speaker 1: New life? A brand new life? M uh And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just having a drink of wine. Cheers. I love you.
Speaker 1: Oh you have something now? Good? M six? When is
Speaker 1: the thirst sis? I didn't have time to go get
Speaker 1: a glass of wine. Okay, next time, we're having mom
Speaker 1: Juice all the plane ahead. So I watched her in
Speaker 1: a Brand New Life on NBC before this show. So
Speaker 1: when she did get the part, and I knew who
Speaker 1: she was and I loved I loved that show and
Speaker 1: I thought you were so adorable and beautiful. And I
Speaker 1: had the biggest teeth I've ever seen. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm totally kidding. First teeth. I loving the first teeth.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna kill you. So, Okay, you
Speaker 1: guys don't really remember meeting each other per se, But
Speaker 1: do you remember any of the other cast members? The
Speaker 1: first time meeting Luke, first time meeting Jason. So Luke
Speaker 1: wasn't in the pilot, right, it was just all all
Speaker 1: of us. I huh. The only person I remember meeting
Speaker 1: is Brian. Oh she shocker. What you saw? Like stars
Speaker 1: and rainbows? And what is that? I did? You? Did?
Speaker 1: You got like the butterflies? Yeah? Yeah, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were the same exact age, and all the boys
Speaker 1: were older. Jason was pretending to be older to fit
Speaker 1: in and like, but he was older a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's like what three or four years older, but still like,
Speaker 1: you know, he was hanging with Iron and Gabrielle and
Speaker 1: being cool, and Shannon was kind of in the middle
Speaker 1: friends with all of us. But I came on set
Speaker 1: and Brian and I both had to go to school,
Speaker 1: so we had to is that why do you call it?
Speaker 1: Call it? What? Is that? What you call it? School? No,
Speaker 1: we had we were you. I don't know you were
Speaker 1: a special breed. You didn't have to do school. I'm
Speaker 1: Brian and I had to do school and set so
Speaker 1: we had a school teacher and we would have to
Speaker 1: go do our school work in between scenes the flirting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been so excited to go to
Speaker 1: school in my whole life. You bonded over math geometry.
Speaker 1: So my first memory of Jennifer Eve is Marianne Moore's party.
Speaker 1: When you when you call me Jennifer Eve, do you
Speaker 1: think people think you're mad at me? Or nobody calls
Speaker 1: me Jennifer? You know, it's my favorite thing in life
Speaker 1: is to call her by her full name because I
Speaker 1: love her name so much and it just I don't know,
Speaker 1: and she'll be like mad about it, but I see
Speaker 1: the little like smile, so I know that she loves
Speaker 1: I call her that. Deep down, I do I do,
Speaker 1: and I love when she tries to say my middle name.
Speaker 1: She's known me for thirty years and she gets it
Speaker 1: wrong every time. No, it's not Victoria, Dave asked me.
Speaker 1: That's not I know what it is. It's Victoria David.
Speaker 1: I hate you. I like this, Dave. No, it's not okay,
Speaker 1: she's not even kidding right now, Davy David did Davy
Speaker 1: Davy Victoria David. That's interesting. And then there was David
Speaker 1: Silver on the show and he, I guess your your
Speaker 1: dad really does love that name from that any origin.
Speaker 1: So it was his dad's name. Oh, so that's why
Speaker 1: they couldn't They want to put David in my middle
Speaker 1: name because I'm a girl. So it was Davy Davy.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to forget it now. Yeah, next time
Speaker 1: you asked me, I'm going to remember. She says that
Speaker 1: every time, last twenty years. You aren't kidding with your memory.
Speaker 1: Oh why would I joke about that? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: It's not fun. Be like, what's my full name? Should be?
Speaker 1: Like Viola Davis. She'll have no idea. It's Victoria Davy,
Speaker 1: the vicinity, you know, like I got one of them right,
Speaker 1: So okay, let's go show ahead to tell your story. Oh,
Speaker 1: so I remember my first memory of you Marianne Moore's party.
Speaker 1: So in the pilot, there was a popular girl. We
Speaker 1: call her Lips. Uh that do you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, she has the most beautiful we'd ever seen,
Speaker 1: the lips we'd ever seen. Yeah, I'd never seen lips
Speaker 1: like that before, and they were just mesmerizing. Nowadays they're
Speaker 1: a diamond dozen because girls get their lips done. But
Speaker 1: this girl had good lips, the kind you like, the
Speaker 1: kind girls get done like you. You would carry in
Speaker 1: a picture and be like, I want these lips, give me,
Speaker 1: give me the filler. But they were just so like yummy.
Speaker 1: So so we called her lips McGhee, your lip McGee,
Speaker 1: lips mcke No, that was you, So you bonded over
Speaker 1: lips McGee. She was a popular girl. Everyone was invited
Speaker 1: to her party and it was a big scene that
Speaker 1: was filmed at I don't even some big mansion in
Speaker 1: the Hollywood Hills, um And it was the first time
Speaker 1: we filmed. We filmed like an all nighter because it
Speaker 1: was a night so we started at night. We didn't
Speaker 1: wrap till the sun came up. That used to be
Speaker 1: so fun. By the way, that were young, right, We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so cool, Like I got to stay out
Speaker 1: all night. And I remember the scene specifically because it
Speaker 1: was a three shot of you, me and Shannon and
Speaker 1: we were standing there like watching the party. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we can find the clip. I don't remember, but I
Speaker 1: just remember the three of us off camera had so
Speaker 1: much fun and we all laughed and that was the
Speaker 1: first time we were all like, oh, well, this could
Speaker 1: all be a real friendship and it was really fun. Ah.
Speaker 1: It must be nice that you remember that and you've
Speaker 1: got nothing, Jenny, like you remember that at all. No,
Speaker 1: I remember only because I've seen a picture of it.
Speaker 1: I've seen that, like a clip of that exact scene
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, But I don't remember being there.
Speaker 1: When do you remember me like the first time? Ah,
Speaker 1: that's a tricky question. Mm hmm. If I see pictures,
Speaker 1: it reminds me, and then it kind of drags something
Speaker 1: and I I can I don't know if I'm remembering
Speaker 1: it or if I'm just seeing the picture and thinking
Speaker 1: I remember it. I don't know how the brain works.
Speaker 1: But remember the rat party for the pilot M I
Speaker 1: think I remember that, hold that thought. We have to
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Speaker 1: So this is jumping ahead. But we filmed the pilot
Speaker 1: and then we had a rap party and we didn't
Speaker 1: know if it was going to get picked up or
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. And um, I was totally
Speaker 1: like in the pilot crushing on Brian and we had
Speaker 1: school together and he used to tease me, and I
Speaker 1: call it quote unquote pulling my pigtails because he would
Speaker 1: like get under my skin and I'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. He Um. But then I was forming friendships
Speaker 1: with Jenny and Shannon and and we're having all the
Speaker 1: this girl bonding and I just remember the rap party
Speaker 1: where I was like, do you want to go to
Speaker 1: the rat party together? And I was like, okay, cool, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well Shannon invited me to the rat party, so we'll
Speaker 1: all go together. And then he flaked on me, and um, Shannon,
Speaker 1: he stood you up. He just didn't show up to
Speaker 1: take I don't remember. I just remember he was like,
Speaker 1: I'll call you, we'll go together, like all of us
Speaker 1: it was like, and then it just didn't happen. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: Shannon and I got blowouts in Beverly Hills. We got
Speaker 1: dressed at my parents at the Manor because we were
Speaker 1: now at the Manor at this point, and then we
Speaker 1: went to Spago. The rat party was at Spago. Do
Speaker 1: you remember this now? It was a different and that's
Speaker 1: going to be a different story. Oh yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a running theme here with with pukes. But
Speaker 1: hold on, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So it was
Speaker 1: at Spago and Spago Wolfgang Puck, Beverly Hills, infamous Hollywood
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills iconic restaurant, famous for one of their dishes,
Speaker 1: famous for their spaghetti. So um yeah, so they had
Speaker 1: little things spaghetti. I got to the party and I
Speaker 1: drank and I don't know how I got drinks because
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, but somehow I snuck drinks at the party.
Speaker 1: At the rap party, I saw Brian. He was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up, because you know, he probably was like, oh whatever,
Speaker 1: we're cool, and I was like, oh my good. So
Speaker 1: then I snuck drinks after I had eaten the spaghetti,
Speaker 1: and I just remember the next thing, uh I knew.
Speaker 1: I was in the bathroom with Shannon an Tony Shephard
Speaker 1: are casting director, and I was puking my guts out
Speaker 1: and and I just remember him being like, did she
Speaker 1: have noodles? And she was like, yeah, she did not
Speaker 1: enough clearly didn't absorb. This is really going I then
Speaker 1: came home. I got grounded. I was grounded for a
Speaker 1: month because I came home and he had to like
Speaker 1: Shannon Antony had to be like, sorry, your daughter drink.
Speaker 1: We're not sure how she got the alcohol. It's like
Speaker 1: when you drink at a bar, mitzvah, like no one knows. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came home and my mom was furious that I
Speaker 1: drank and I was grounded for a month. Super cool. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they grounded you because, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: at least they were watching out for you. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is actually nice to hear that you still were like
Speaker 1: a normal kid and got in trouble and didn't get
Speaker 1: away with everything. And we were only on the pilot.
Speaker 1: It was just things hadn't taken off yet. What else
Speaker 1: happened at this party. I don't remember anything. The only
Speaker 1: memory because yeah, yeah, I was like so when you
Speaker 1: have I don't know much about TV rap parties or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but like, I guess when you film
Speaker 1: a pilot, it's common to have a celebratory party just
Speaker 1: in case, a rat party. That's what they call it,
Speaker 1: a rat party. It's a wrap. You gotta get with that.
Speaker 1: I got that much. How did it take you guys
Speaker 1: to film the pilot? I think two weeks probably, I'll
Speaker 1: go with that. So you guys feeling good about it?
Speaker 1: Did you have any idea it would blow up into
Speaker 1: the monster that it became. We didn't. We we were
Speaker 1: just kids having fun doing what we were told to do. Literally,
Speaker 1: they told us what to do from the moment our
Speaker 1: eyes opened to the moment we went to sleep, practically,
Speaker 1: what to eat, where to go, when to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, what to wear, what to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: wrap your head around that. That's a whole another discussion.
Speaker 1: But we didn't know what we were getting into, and
Speaker 1: we had no idea that it would be successful at
Speaker 1: that point. No, when do you guys start filming? So
Speaker 1: if it gets picked up, then you go you end
Speaker 1: up starting to starting to film the next episodes? Or
Speaker 1: do you You don't do that until someone picks it up. Yes, up,
Speaker 1: Fox picked it up, and we I think there was
Speaker 1: like a couple of months break and then we all
Speaker 1: got back together and started on episode one. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you keep the love relationships offset versus on set? Like?
Speaker 1: How do you like your teenagers? Like? Your hormones are
Speaker 1: probably going crazy. I when I was your sixteen I've
Speaker 1: had a crush on everybody. So how did you guys control?
Speaker 1: How were you professional? I guess is my point? I
Speaker 1: don't know you any different? Were you not? I think
Speaker 1: we were all just really we were all very prideful
Speaker 1: of doing our jobs, like we wanted to be good
Speaker 1: at what we were doing, each one of us in
Speaker 1: our own individual ways. And we also wanted to support
Speaker 1: one another as an ensemble. And we didn't even know
Speaker 1: we were doing that, but what that's what we were
Speaker 1: doing originating that bond and we had We were sequestered
Speaker 1: in um this really not very nice sound studio in
Speaker 1: Van Nuys, California, and we all had dressing rooms like
Speaker 1: in a row, and they were just you could hear
Speaker 1: everything that was going on, and then of dressing room
Speaker 1: next to you, on top of each other, not an
Speaker 1: al cove. It was like a m what's the word?
Speaker 1: A circle, like a you sape, like a what would
Speaker 1: that be. It was almost like a little apartment many
Speaker 1: apartment building, where like you're just like all these little,
Speaker 1: tiny little rooms, but you're all in this. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what. I just remember my dressing room
Speaker 1: was right by the bathroom, so I just kept hearing
Speaker 1: the toilet flush all day. But she's so professional, she
Speaker 1: never even asked to be moved. Oh why would I
Speaker 1: I like the sound of toilets. You were around the corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was far away from from you guys. Maybe they
Speaker 1: did that for oh, separate the girls. M hmmm. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like was there cattiness at the beginning. I
Speaker 1: mean no, I don't recall cattiness in general. I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us had those intentions really, or that
Speaker 1: even that you know, or to know how to even write. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just like, yeah, okay, what's your call time?
Speaker 1: What's my call time? Yeah? But it all it all
Speaker 1: sort of went to hell after that. No, I'm just kidding. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a bitter sweet to
Speaker 1: relive all these memories because it was a roller coaster
Speaker 1: I'm assuming right. I hate roller coasters? Oh you hate them?
Speaker 1: I do? They terrify me, so let's do this one
Speaker 1: that you would find like a Disneyland, not a crazy one.
Speaker 1: I like doing things to scare me. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: definitely we did not know what we were getting into,
Speaker 1: and um, we kind of the show flew under the
Speaker 1: radar for the first I don't even know a few
Speaker 1: months that we started airing and nobody was really watching it. Well,
Speaker 1: Fox wasn't even a major network at that time. Box
Speaker 1: was just a very small syndicated affiliate, so not a
Speaker 1: lot of people were able to watch the show. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, there was what like Mary with Children and
Speaker 1: the Simpsons and Ali McBeal. We know these things because
Speaker 1: we used to have like that's who they would socialize
Speaker 1: us with at events. I was really young and came
Speaker 1: party of five when the show started. Um, the only
Speaker 1: reason I really kind of knew about it was because
Speaker 1: I have an older sister who's eight years older than I.
Speaker 1: And then I probably I started watching it at a
Speaker 1: way too young of an age. I mean, I want
Speaker 1: to say I was maybe I don't know. I probably
Speaker 1: came in on like season two or three and I
Speaker 1: was eight or nine and my parents, my parents are immigrants,
Speaker 1: Like they didn't really pay attention to what we were
Speaker 1: doing as kids. And you know, it was in the
Speaker 1: early nineties, like to them, like had the television in
Speaker 1: the house was like the coolest thing ever. So they
Speaker 1: didn't care. And so what you're saying is we taught
Speaker 1: you guys, taught me a lot. Sorry about that, Mom
Speaker 1: and Dad. Looking back, I just remember, like our music
Speaker 1: was good, our music of your genre, of your age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they had huge songs. Yeah we did. We got
Speaker 1: great musical content on that show. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know that people get to see or hear that now
Speaker 1: because I've it's not licensed or something, so when they
Speaker 1: do play it on Hulu or whatever, it's different music.
Speaker 1: I've what are you are you saying? Like later on
Speaker 1: in the seasons when um, what was it peach Pit
Speaker 1: after dark? Not then? Like even like the whole the
Speaker 1: infamous Brenda and Dylan car scene where she freaks out
Speaker 1: because he screw Hams at her Maholland drive. What was
Speaker 1: the song Losing My Religion? Yes, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Everyone remembered that because I don't know as young, like
Speaker 1: even though we were on the show, we were also
Speaker 1: going through the same things off camera because we were
Speaker 1: the same age. So just remember when you would like
Speaker 1: watch a movie or watch a show and you associated
Speaker 1: a song and you'd be like, that could be my
Speaker 1: love story, that could happen in my life, and you
Speaker 1: would play it. So everyone listened to that song and
Speaker 1: thought of Brenda and Dylan and then like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that could happen to me. Like I went through that
Speaker 1: same thing with Brian, and I'm just kidding. I was like,
Speaker 1: that could be me. All Right, well, let's take a
Speaker 1: break and we will come right back. Okay. So we
Speaker 1: kind of touched on this earlier, but I saw your
Speaker 1: post on Instagram tor of Brian Austa green and Jenny
Speaker 1: and like you kind of a reminiscing in it a
Speaker 1: little bit, and when you were talking about him pulling
Speaker 1: your pigtails and the flirting, and I almost didn't want
Speaker 1: to sound like I didn't know, because there was no
Speaker 1: TMZ back then, Like there was no liked Tiger Beat
Speaker 1: magazines like Tiger b that's what it was called. And
Speaker 1: so I guess I didn't know the gossip per se
Speaker 1: as a fan, Like, was there an actual relationship between
Speaker 1: you and Brian Austin green Well We'll have to get
Speaker 1: to that because this there's we had ten years of history.
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. And there you know,
Speaker 1: we grew up together and there were crushes, there were
Speaker 1: not crushes, there were there was many things that happened.
Speaker 1: But what I can't say is that it it ended
Speaker 1: up being like a very great, amazing friendship dead I
Speaker 1: cherish and I'm grateful for. I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: no words, but yeah, oh wait, I want to know. Wait,
Speaker 1: what's we're getting ahead? Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Who me? Yeah? Oh? Hi? You you and the turtleneck?
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? So obviously you know
Speaker 1: everyone was either Kelly and Dylan or Kelly and Brandon,
Speaker 1: and kind of as a fan because all my friends
Speaker 1: and I used to watch every week every Wednesday night,
Speaker 1: my high school friends would come over and we would
Speaker 1: watch the episode as if I wasn't in. It was
Speaker 1: so weird. But I want to know, like, because everyone
Speaker 1: dreams of like Kelly and Brandon, like when you first
Speaker 1: met Jason, would you think When I first met Jason,
Speaker 1: I remember thinking he was so handsome, like so mysterious
Speaker 1: and like moody looking, and he was smoking cigarettes and
Speaker 1: like I just thought he was dreaming anything. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: eyes they like not even human blue eyes eyes. I've
Speaker 1: never seen anything in real life like that. No, he
Speaker 1: has beautiful eyes. He does. I forgot. He used to smoke,
Speaker 1: so like the opposite of Brandon, which is so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was rugged. He was like a tough guy. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I had never really seen anybody like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need there. He's a cutie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought he was too cool for me. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even talk to him. I couldn't try. I didn't even try.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know that. That's Brandon. He
Speaker 1: used to lead. So that was at it, like no
Speaker 1: matter what Brian, because he was my age, you know,
Speaker 1: like and then Jenny and Shannon, you stayed in your lane.
Speaker 1: I stayed in my lane. Yeah. It's interesting that that
Speaker 1: ended up becoming the story reline in the show. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much more to this, and you're
Speaker 1: not telling the story. Hmm. I think it happens. It
Speaker 1: unfolds as the show kind of unfolds. Our lives together
Speaker 1: all unfolded, and maybe we'll get to that. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get to that, Maybe we Will And that's that's the
Speaker 1: gist of like how you know, I mean, as a fan,
Speaker 1: you you have all these like nine O two one
Speaker 1: o is ms you know that are just iconic. Um,
Speaker 1: everyone knows what the peach pit is. I wonder why
Speaker 1: they called it a peach pit, Like what was the
Speaker 1: thinking behind I don't know either. I heard I don't know.
Speaker 1: I read this somewhere. I heard it that it was
Speaker 1: inspired by another Landmark restaurant called Apple Pan in l
Speaker 1: A where they had burgers and yeah, so apple Pan.
Speaker 1: They were like, that's iconic, Like it's kind of the
Speaker 1: vibe because like a diner, so peach pit, Apple Pan
Speaker 1: peach pit. Okay, it's like literally so literal. Would you
Speaker 1: guys ever get stopped on the streets by fans that
Speaker 1: would just like either be mad at your character or yes,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people, Um, they always wanted
Speaker 1: to ask me questions about Brandon or about Dylan, or
Speaker 1: people were mad at me for breaking up Dylan and Brenda.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have so many questions about that
Speaker 1: because I mean there were definitely like two camps like
Speaker 1: m like they all love Dylan, but they're like I
Speaker 1: want him to be with Brenda or I want him
Speaker 1: to be with Kelly. I can imagine the Brenda camp
Speaker 1: was probably pretty pissed. Yeah, they weren't happy with me.
Speaker 1: You know. Shocking and it all happened. But this is
Speaker 1: the stuff that will dive into I guess per episode
Speaker 1: ye ye pulled on. I feel like in the pilot
Speaker 1: Steve and Kelly, it was kind of set up that
Speaker 1: it was going to go that way. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: came back from summer and I think that you I
Speaker 1: had my license by then. Kelly and Steve were either
Speaker 1: just broken up or you're going to get back to it.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. We just broken up and that's
Speaker 1: how it kicks off. Yeah, we had just broken up.
Speaker 1: So I think, if I remember correctly, Steve was always
Speaker 1: trying to get back with Kelly and Kelly was trying
Speaker 1: to get away from Steve. But um, we did. I
Speaker 1: think we dipped back a few times here and there.
Speaker 1: I just remember kissing him once, so we must have
Speaker 1: gotten back together for a minute. Uh wait, is that
Speaker 1: the story when he made you rehearse and said, oh,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to rehearse kissing, so come rehearse. How did
Speaker 1: that go? That's that's the story. I don't know what
Speaker 1: episode that happened in, do you know? But when we
Speaker 1: see it, we'll be able to then go back and
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, that's the episode, and then you can
Speaker 1: tell us all about it. I will, I will. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've heard you talk enough for one episode. I need
Speaker 1: to hear about the show. Let's start watching this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm so ready to watch it, are you. I'm like
Speaker 1: nervous a little bit because it's bringing up so much
Speaker 1: of our childhood. Like I'm excited and nervous at the
Speaker 1: same time. As that makes sense, Yeah it does. What
Speaker 1: about the love scenes? Does that make you, guys feel
Speaker 1: awkward when you watch yourself dude love scenes? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be weird. I mean, but I did so many.
Speaker 1: She's uh, from my viewing experience, a really great technical
Speaker 1: on camera kisser. Does that mean anything to you, guys, No,
Speaker 1: because there's some m there's some people that you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: it's on camera, and some people just like do it
Speaker 1: weird and just mash lips and you're like, no, one
Speaker 1: kisses like that. If you were in the heat of passion,
Speaker 1: like you would open your mouth a little bit. Some
Speaker 1: people on camera swallow your face and you're like, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't look No one wants to see that because
Speaker 1: that's not pretty on camera. And I just remember you
Speaker 1: were always such a beautiful kisser on camera. Why thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to write that on my gravestone. Beautiful kisser
Speaker 1: on camera. Yeah, I dare you. Well, ladies, we have
Speaker 1: some options because obviously it's available on a lot of platforms,
Speaker 1: like on Hulu you can watch part one and part
Speaker 1: two of the pilot, and then on Amazon it's all
Speaker 1: one episode. So isn't that weird? Like why, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. The first the pilot was a two
Speaker 1: It was meant to be a movie. It was a
Speaker 1: two hour situation. It was meant to be like a
Speaker 1: two hour special thing. And then for programming reasons, they
Speaker 1: cut it in half. I don't have any idea how
Speaker 1: they just cut it in half because it was written
Speaker 1: as one thing. Wait, Jen, what do you mean a
Speaker 1: movie like a movie of the week? Was that backdoor
Speaker 1: pilot or supposed to be? I don't really know. I
Speaker 1: don't know all that stuff, but I remember the director
Speaker 1: was Tim Hunter, who was at that time a really
Speaker 1: successful film director. And um, he did such a beautiful
Speaker 1: job with a pilot. But I remember that they said
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be a two hour thing and
Speaker 1: they Fox wanted it to be a two parter. So
Speaker 1: should we watch it as one ninety minutes situation? Or
Speaker 1: should we watch did it air originally on Fox in
Speaker 1: two weeks or just one episode like a long one?
Speaker 1: I think it was two two weeks? Whoa half when
Speaker 1: you were I think we should watch the complete ninety
Speaker 1: minute though, I feel like we should just go in
Speaker 1: for the whole pilot episode. Yeah, okay, okay, I'm game right,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's watch the whole thing. More lips,
Speaker 1: more more lip McGee if we want the whole episode,
Speaker 1: ninety minutes more beautiful woman that lip McGhee. Who Maryanne Moore? Jen?
Speaker 1: Remember I sent you a picture Ian and I saw
Speaker 1: her like two years ago in real life. In real life,
Speaker 1: I saw saying you a picture of us with her.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. She was on head of the class,
Speaker 1: you guys, Um she was famous? Like, um, what's her name?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Is
Speaker 1: it Leslie? Leslie? Leslie Bega Bega with a B B
Speaker 1: Leslie Bega. By the way, when I saw her a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, still just as intoxicatingly beautiful, and
Speaker 1: her lips looked great. Let me just tell you you
Speaker 1: have lip lip envy a little bit. Well, there you
Speaker 1: have it. We're just getting I feel like we're just
Speaker 1: getting started, truly, and especially because we haven't seen any
Speaker 1: episodes together. Literally, there's so much more Togever. I feel
Speaker 1: like you guys are holding back, if I'm being quite honest,
Speaker 1: what you're holding back. I know that there's so much
Speaker 1: more juice that we need to be uncovered. We are.
Speaker 1: We're like, we're running that. We're like podcast virgins basically,
Speaker 1: so we're like we are We're not really sure yet,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like should we go there? Should we not
Speaker 1: go there? You have to go there, We're going there,
Speaker 1: and that this is just the beginning. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to push us to second base. Sure, will