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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke. Have we decided? What season?

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Speaker 1: This is? Season six? Jay? We got six seasons. Bros.

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Speaker 2: Your nails look nice, you got them done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get shiny buff. No policies, shiny buff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you live in Atlanta, So I just had to ask.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good you asked. But you know you know

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Speaker 4: me better than Yeah. I thought I did, but I do. Man,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. And I tell I was just

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Speaker 4: telling bro, like I'll ask anybody to come on our show.

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Speaker 4: But when I seen him at the softball game like

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Speaker 4: two weeks ago, I kind of got nervous, Like, y'all,

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Speaker 4: I've been such a big fan of these dudes, Like

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if I want to ask him.

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Speaker 4: And then I said, fuck it, that's making it real.

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Speaker 4: And he came through. I gave his wife my number

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Speaker 4: and she hit me up. Maybe a week later and

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Speaker 4: we're here, Man, Welcome to the show. The one and

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Speaker 4: only Lazy bone Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this peace Man Leisure Leisure.

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Speaker 4: Earlier this year, y'all shared a picture together right here.

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Speaker 4: Take a look at that. What was that getting the

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Speaker 4: group back together and chopping it up?

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Speaker 1: Was what was that about?

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Speaker 5: And that's that's that All Five Live right there, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like that's when you put that

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Speaker 5: hand up and you can give a smooth slap when

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Speaker 5: it's one of them, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 5: when you ball that whole thing up and it's so powerful,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So that's the All Five Live,

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Speaker 5: me and my brothers coming together to put the stamp

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Speaker 5: on the legacy. I love what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Anything in the works with the whole group.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we definitely. We're definitely working on an album

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Speaker 5: right now. But just it's it's so much more than

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Speaker 5: just music, you know what I mean, Like the music,

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Speaker 5: the autobiography, the book, the movie, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: the rock and roll hall, the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of it's a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it in your mind like me and Matt,

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Speaker 3: you know, we we listen to Bonne New y'all legs.

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Speaker 3: But in your mind, what do you think you guys

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Speaker 3: are an impact that you had on hip hop?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, and in the most humble way

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Speaker 5: I can put it, I think bon Thugs in harmony

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Speaker 5: besides run DMC or NWA or ghetto Boys something like

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Speaker 5: that is probably the most influential group ever in bon

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Speaker 5: thus in harmony and hip hop and probably even music

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Speaker 5: because you know we up there in that category of

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Speaker 5: music too, because we changed the sound, we changed the look,

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Speaker 5: we changed. It was so many different dynamics that came

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Speaker 5: with bonb thus in Harmony that the ingredients we put

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Speaker 5: into the pot of gumbo that was already hip hop

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Speaker 5: before we came out in ninety four. It was like,

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Speaker 5: what we added is what it became.

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Speaker 3: Today and everybody, everybody, everybody, Uh, the style of ball

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Speaker 3: hormonizing and rapid fire rapping when you were when you

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Speaker 3: when you turn your voice to an instrument, what's the like,

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Speaker 3: what's the processing that? Because all y'all probably got singing

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Speaker 3: backgrounds before y'all start rapping.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, you know that's that's heavily influenced

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Speaker 5: through family, you know what I mean, Like Mama were

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Speaker 5: not not really church because you know, my grandmother and

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Speaker 5: them was your hope for witnesses and things like that. So, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, our influence came from My whole family was singers.

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Speaker 5: My mom was a singer. That was my main influence,

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Speaker 5: you know, rest in peace. Just lost Moms not too

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Speaker 5: long ago, but it was it was really her guidance

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Speaker 5: through music and her love of music with the Temptations

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Speaker 5: and you know all that the music we grew up

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Speaker 5: to growing up in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: That they playing around the household.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, cleaning up Sunday morning. You know you

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Speaker 5: gotta get your sweep on Sunday morning. You probably they

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Speaker 5: gonna put on easy like Sunday more on. Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: type of ship, which we just just did a new

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Speaker 5: single remake of the Commodorees line of Richies. Uh easy

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Speaker 5: like Sunday Morning too. So that's out right now. Y'all

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Speaker 5: can go check that out down thad to go to

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Speaker 5: Boone Thus and Harmony, Uh YouTube check it out.

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Speaker 1: Were working rap to this fan coming off YouTube.

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Speaker 3: These dudes really talk all the rappers how to change

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Speaker 3: flows and wrapping different pockets on beat.

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Speaker 5: You agree, absolutely, rap was just one way, you know,

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Speaker 5: dot dot dot dut dah. And then we did like

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Speaker 5: we changed the cadence. We changed the flows. We sped

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Speaker 5: treated rap.

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Speaker 1: Like a.

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Speaker 5: I would say, uh uh a stick shift you had.

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Speaker 5: We switched gears on niggas at all times, and we

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Speaker 5: all or do it differently, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So that's the that's the beauty behind Bonds. It's five

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Speaker 5: of us with the same concept, which forms a mastermind.

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Speaker 5: We all think alike.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, a lot of rappers today basically stole

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Speaker 3: y'all flow. And the ones that do that flow but

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Speaker 3: don't have they can't rap, I don't have no substance.

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Speaker 1: They call it mumble rap. You agree with that, That's

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Speaker 1: what I think they could.

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Speaker 3: The one that, like everybody just stole y'all be people

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Speaker 3: been rapped, y'all been rapping it, that y'all created, everybody

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Speaker 3: doing it. But the ones that ain't really saying nothing,

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Speaker 3: they call it mumble rap instead of just saying they

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Speaker 5: And that goes back to the cadence we gave to

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Speaker 5: hip hop, you know what I mean. Like you can

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Speaker 5: hear the melody now and just and just mumble and

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Speaker 5: it might sound something if if you got a little

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Speaker 5: voice behind it. But yeah, that's the cadence that we lend.

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Speaker 1: To a lot of auto tune with them today too, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, But and then auto tune really like

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Speaker 5: it really didn't get close to auto tune. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: you know, Mariah Carey did it before all the tunes

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Speaker 5: took over, you know what I mean. And that showed

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Speaker 5: you where busy Bones voice and the crazy Bones staccato

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Speaker 5: flow was coming from.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, man, we we linked that to the game

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Speaker 5: and rap was one way, and then what we added

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Speaker 5: to it, you know, gave it opened up ideas it

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Speaker 5: was Pandora's box.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody ran with it another fancy.

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Speaker 3: I still think that Bone Thug have had more influence

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Speaker 3: on Mardern hip hop than any other group.

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Speaker 1: They were so ahead of their time. I agree what

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Speaker 5: I agree too. They definitely must be Bone fans, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. But yeah, man, I mean we

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Speaker 5: came out in nineteen ninety four. In nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 5: like it wasn't you wasn't hearing people. You might have

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Speaker 5: heard twisted rapping fast. You know, his flow went one way.

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Speaker 5: Then you had Dye's effects, this bomb, sticky Bomb, sticky

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Speaker 5: bump Bom like all those things was different influences. But

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Speaker 5: we had the influence of like I was saying, the

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Speaker 5: seventies music, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, Michael Jackson new addition, we

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Speaker 5: grew up on all that type of stuff. So around

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Speaker 5: the burning barrel, not only was we rapping, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, but we were singing. We were singing

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Speaker 5: those songs too, just trying to stay warm while we

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Speaker 5: was on the block getting our money, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like the harmony, the flow, the cadences,

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Speaker 5: the switching gears, all that thing, all that came from

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Speaker 5: ten twelve, fifteen years of bomb thus and harmony being together.

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Speaker 5: Before you know, we was heard of. We had to

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Speaker 5: tape out Caught Faces of Death in Cleveland. Beforehand, we

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Speaker 5: had a song called flow Motion, which was ninety one

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Speaker 5: something like that, like way before our time.

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Speaker 4: I'm a jump line real quick, jack jel mind. One

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Speaker 4: of my favorite songs is break It Down. You mentioned

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Speaker 4: Mariah early, and I think it was you and Wish

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Speaker 4: on that song break it Down.

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Speaker 5: It was originally it was Crazy and Wish and then

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Speaker 5: I was at it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So talk to us about that song and working

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Speaker 5: In all her greatness, I mean, well, Mariah Carey was

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Speaker 5: probably the first mega ultra super duper star that we

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Speaker 5: worked with like that, Yeah, to that magnetuo, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like we that studio session we come in,

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Speaker 5: you know, I mean, like just expensive shit, just like

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Speaker 5: that from that first the way she was a tentative

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Speaker 5: in that session, you know what I mean, It was like,

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Speaker 5: let me know that she was paying attention in that

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Speaker 5: first session breakdown. So when we got to the next sessions,

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Speaker 5: she was full blown doing bone flows, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. So somebody of that stature became a student

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Speaker 5: then that we're doing some shit right, a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of influence Cleveland, what's in the music DNA of Cleveland, oh.

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Speaker 5: Man, anywhere we come from. So run man, you gotta start.

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Speaker 5: You gotta start probably with Eddie LeVert Man, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like Cleveland, Ohio period. The funk come

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Speaker 5: from Ohio. I know it's a California thing and Snoop

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Speaker 5: Dogg and them defunk and all that, but all them

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Speaker 5: Uh all that funk so Eddie LeVert and then we

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Speaker 5: because you had LeVert, you had rude boys men at

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Speaker 5: large like Cleveland, we been on the scene. But yeah, lord, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just put that song out on the picture on

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Speaker 5: ig for my mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, so we used to sing all they songs, you know,

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Speaker 5: we had club style one O eight was it only

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Speaker 5: came on Saturdays in Cleveland, like when I first started

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Speaker 5: listening to hip hop early eighties and things like that.

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Speaker 5: So I've been through every fad, every fad you can

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Speaker 5: think of, and hip hop, I've been there, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, from starting from New run DMC through

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Speaker 5: is man. We we've been through all all all five decades.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland. Uh tough upbringing? Uh Midwest? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Any truth that you had a bullet you got shot

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Speaker 4: in the head and the doctor nicknamed you iron head?

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Speaker 5: Yeah man, these whole ass niggas shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sixteen, tell us what tell us about that story?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, fans that do know me, they

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Speaker 5: know that. You know, back in the days, you know,

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Speaker 5: we was hustling. That's what our music was about. That's

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Speaker 5: the life we was living. So we was hustling. I

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Speaker 5: come home from jail, me and my brother walking up

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Speaker 5: mistaking me for another light skinned nigga.

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Speaker 1: Happened a lot to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So what happened was we fell out. They you know,

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Speaker 5: they got out. I had some mace. I sprayed the guy.

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Speaker 5: I tried to run because I seen the gun turned around. Boom,

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Speaker 5: get hitting the head. Long story short, you know, my

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Speaker 5: brother saved my life that day, Flesh and Bonus, my

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Speaker 5: me to the hospital. And that's when I viowed it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same mama.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Flesh, Flesh My he my big brother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody think, you know, they say the light skin

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Speaker 4: So Cleveland sports fan growing up, Cleveland period all day.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think about what they're doing to

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Speaker 5: since you know, you slid him down so far, try

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Speaker 1: Were you Charles growing up? Hell?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? From the town?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, we used to it was a spot called

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Speaker 4: One way ticket to LA reports. You were homeless for

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Speaker 5: I had went to California back in like nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 5: He rapped against Uh. I forget which one of them

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Speaker 5: We was out there in Mansfield. Cript They like, hey, homie,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm gonna take your over Tone Low House nigga.

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Speaker 4: You know, well take us down that path because I

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Speaker 5: That's going on with you now. So Tom Loake come

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Speaker 1: You know when the.

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 5: Wow, live wire, energy, wish, lieutenant at arms, soldier, you know,

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Speaker 5: general flesh, intelligent, hmm uh, smart, brilliant, mhmm, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: What would they say about you?

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Speaker 5: Oh, man, I'm just the glue. I'm the peacemaker, I'm

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Speaker 4: What's the story of you being kidnapped or excuse me,

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I really don't you know, he

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Speaker 5: in school and blah blah blah. But my mom kept

433
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 5: telling me, it's this little boy. I want you to

434
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: meet this kid. I want you to meet that can

435
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 5: sing and can rap. Because I was already doing my

436
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 5: thing in Cleveland. I had we had a name. We

437
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 5: was the Bandaid Boys. We was the band Aid Boys

438
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 5: in junior high and we dominated everything. Then then we

439
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 5: became Born Enterprise after that, and then we became born

440
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 5: Thugs in Harmony. But uh, back to what you were

441
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 5: saying about Busy, we didn't know all that, so we

442
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 5: didn't you know, I didn't know none of that went

443
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: on until the ship came on America's Most Warning because

444
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 5: Busy had left tour. You know, so we've been through

445
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: a lot of ups and downs. It's a lot of

446
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: things that led to different things, you know, easy e

447
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 5: dine Busy we left tour, you know, we was confused.

448
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 5: We ain't had no mentors.

449
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: We ain't. You know.

450
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: It wasn't no blueprints, no game playing. Some niggas from

451
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 5: the streets told and all kind of just doing all

452
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 5: whatever money that allowed us to do, you know what

453
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: I mean. But we was holding down. We still stayed business.

454
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 5: But we had a foot in the streets too. So

455
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 5: when Busy walked off tour and I had negotiated solo deals,

456
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Busy and Crazy was ready.

457
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 5: So put Busy album out, put Crazy album out, and

458
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: put Flesh album out solo, and that's when everything was

459
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: going good. And then you know, Easy passed away. We

460
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 5: had the most ug family thing going and we were

461
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 5: selling millions of records right there. And then Easy died,

462
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: Busy left, and then the America's Most Wanted shit came

463
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: on TV out of nowhere. Because I hadn't, I didn't

464
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 5: know what b was going through. You know, it was

465
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 5: personal demons, whatever whatever it may be. I always tried

466
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 5: to understand, like what it was, because I looked at

467
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 5: what God gave us. Remember, I had been shot the head,

468
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 5: I had been in jail. I was the first nigga

469
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 5: that to wear the handcuffs and behind bars in my

470
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: generation of so I had learned all that shit early,

471
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 5: so I was trying to understand busy. So when that happened,

472
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 5: it was like we was fucking shocked, man, it was,

473
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: you know. And then and B went on a rampage

474
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: for another couple of years, and I never really we

475
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: never really got to sit down and talk about, you know,

476
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: those type of deep things in life. Life was moving

477
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: so fast, man. We was shit. We was November twenty third,

478
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: we went to California. February, we was with Easy E.

479
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 5: Ninety four, Uh June Thuggish Ruggish Bone came out July

480
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: we platinum. Uh shit, then skipped fast Ahead and out

481
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 5: we on another album each nineteen ninety nine. We recording

482
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 5: that motherfucker It's coming out, Bang bang bang. Easy E died.

483
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: We only knew him for fifteen months in the flesh,

484
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like we was with him

485
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 5: every day in the flesh for fifth like fifteen months,

486
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: almost every day, and then he died, you know what

487
00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: I mean. So while all these things was happening, all

488
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 5: these things was happening so fast, we never really so

489
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 5: we was tight like this fist right, and then shit

490
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: start happening, and the fists start loosening up, you know,

491
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: the team start coming apart. Because the one that was

492
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: protecting us Easy he did he did so the one

493
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: he kept us away from everybody, he put us with,

494
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: you know, the black Hole, the WATS and GBM, different

495
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 5: people he felt that we can we could be comfortable around.

496
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: But when he left, it was like it was us

497
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: against uh uh presidents of the company and people that

498
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: uh that Judges was putting in place, you know what

499
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it was like Nigga was twenty one

500
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: years old, went from welfare first of the month to

501
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: this mother I could check three hundred eight four hundred

502
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying. So, like no guidance,

503
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: no playbook. It's a wonder we're still here. But I

504
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: didn't know that about Busy Bone. Back to your question,

505
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: and that shit was a shock so much. But now

506
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: I analyze in hindsight, like how fast things were moving.

507
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: A lot of people thinks he found y'all, but y'all

508
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: started him out.

509
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: What's that story?

510
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, we found easy eat Man.

511
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: Like when and what year was that?

512
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: This was nineteen ninety three, Okay, nineteen ninety three. So

513
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 5: when we was on the block in nineteen ninety three

514
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 5: preparing to leave, we was hustling. Okay, we leaving November

515
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 5: twenty third. Our goal was to me Easy.

516
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Oh you'd already had that play.

517
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 5: We was like because they were you know, the dog

518
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: Pound Death Row. It was like always admired the CEO

519
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: of the company, the the little j the Russell Simmons,

520
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, so I'm day like,

521
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: who you would you rather be with? Nigga Easy eat

522
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: the underdog and we could outrap, we could outrap all

523
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: these niggas. I'd rather be with Easy. So we sought

524
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 5: out to look for Easy. Called him every day while

525
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 5: we was in California, told everybody on the block, nigga,

526
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: we gonna uh were going to meet Easy. And when

527
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: we come back, we shooting the video and it's like, nigga,

528
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna beet No Easy met Easy came back

529
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: to shoot the video, you know what I mean. So

530
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 5: Cleveland was on fire. Everything we said we was gonna do.

531
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: What was his He's always known as from what we

532
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: read in here, just the business mind and and someone

533
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: that always had a vision. What was it like once

534
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: you connected with him, and what kind of guidance he

535
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: give y'all.

536
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you would think from see we from back

537
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: in the days, like fame was a lot more bigger,

538
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: you know, like now everybody's we all on the internet,

539
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: so it feel closer. But to be to meet an

540
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: easy Eve from Cleveland, Ohio and back then, it was

541
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: like a huge, huge thing, you know what I'm saying.

542
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 5: So Easy he was like, you'll think, fuck the police

543
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: and all that. But I really found out that he

544
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: had a love for kids because my son was with

545
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: me when I was out there homeless. My son was

546
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: like a year two years old, maybe I had him

547
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: with me, and Easy he would take him. And I

548
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: noticed that, like he'd just come get come get him,

549
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: take him to go get Pisa and shit like that.

550
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 5: And you know, he was a humble kind ass man,

551
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like the type of nigga

552
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: that to give his shoes to you off his feed,

553
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: like you good, you know, the most important nigga in

554
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: the room, always asks you are you okay? You need anything?

555
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: That type of that type of mentality. So he was.

556
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: He was a great human man and he was a

557
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: real nigga. He stood up for you know, he told

558
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: it like it was street reporting the same way we

559
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 5: came and that's what we got it from street reporting.

560
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: Talk about what you see in your life.

561
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: When he got stick. Is it true that he told

562
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: was getting back together?

563
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: Oh, we knew they was getting back together. We was

564
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 5: watching the phone calls. Shit, we was there. Uh, we

565
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: was there with him and Cube talk. He like nigga.

566
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: He like nigga. Y'all niggas can't fuck with me and

567
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: my group. We like, man, we'll smash y'all old niggas

568
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: like he like going on. He started wearing his braids back.

569
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: He was in our group then, Yeah, you know what

570
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: I mean for them last world months, Yeah, for the

571
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: last few months he was. He was in bomb but yeah, man,

572
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: he yeah he was. He was that nigga. Man, I

573
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: forgot what the fuck We was just saying.

574
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: What was the process of making people want to come

575
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: up for the love money and know the whole album,

576
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: Like what kind of mold j'all was in because that's

577
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: some classic ship. So y'all, you know, I know, when

578
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: you're in the basketball, you gotta you're hitting shots like

579
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: you go into a zone like that's one of them.

580
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: When y'all making that album, Y're in the zone.

581
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: So we we was in the zone because you know,

582
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 5: you gotta think we was. We was a group ten

583
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: years before we got it to Easy Eat. So we

584
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 5: had material on top of material on top of material.

585
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: You know, It's like when you when you go when ship,

586
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: when you're going for your tryouts and ship like that,

587
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: like you've been all your life, You've been in the gym,

588
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: like nigga, I'm finished, show out, you know what I'm

589
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: saying that That's what it was. We was prepared. We

590
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 5: went in the studio, it was so much energy easy.

591
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 5: He let us do whatever we wanted to do. He

592
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: had put us with producers, you know, Yeller and all

593
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: them producers that you know that soaked our vibe up.

594
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: What was it like though, I mean, because in essence,

595
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: what you told us was you basically went from homeless

596
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: to platinum in about six months. I mean, that's absolutely insane.

597
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 4: When you guys, was there a moment where you said,

598
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: kind of, dann we made it? Was it that time

599
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: when did you kind of feel like y'all had officially

600
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: made your mark?

601
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 5: So we after we finished the album, it was a

602
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 5: little time period that we went back to Cleveland to

603
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: get our lives settled because we didn't have nowhere to

604
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: live and or none of that shit.

605
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: So hold on. So you was making classic music, but still.

606
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 5: We were still homeless. We was living in whatever hotel

607
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 5: easy he put us in in or whatever house he

608
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: put us in. But we was crazy. We kept getting

609
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: put out of ship, you know what I'm saying.

610
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: So trying to figure it out. So you been at home,

611
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: got straight.

612
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: We went home, and when I knew we was when

613
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: we made it because we were still riding the bus.

614
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: We called the bus to rt A in Cleveland. So

615
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: we was on the rt A like I don't forgot

616
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 5: where we was going, but we was on the r

617
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: t A and the Nigga roll passing the Regal playing

618
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: Thugish Ruggish Bomb. It was on the radio. We outter,

619
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: We hanging out the bus window like Nigga, that's our song.

620
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: That's the first time the radio, very first time we

621
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: heard it on the radio.

622
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: He on, He on Dayton's Regal t tops in that motherfucker.

623
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: We on the bus like Nigga, that's our song. He

624
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: like this ain't y'all niggas song that.

625
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: Seem that seemed definitely got to be in the movie.

626
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's some golden moments in it

627
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: for sure.

628
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: Uh only artists to record with Biggie poking easy and

629
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 3: pun to big Zach, give me a moment from being

630
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: in the studio.

631
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: Each one of them go Biggie first.

632
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 5: Well, Biggie first, So Biggie, that whole situation was. That

633
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: was a wild day. Man. It was the whole bad boy,

634
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 5: the whole more Thug family.

635
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: Everybody was.

636
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 5: We was about fifty deep in the studio, in the

637
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: room no bigger than this smoked out, smoked out dranking hennessy.

638
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: You know that's when uh thug passion and all that

639
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: ship was to drink yeah him, not mixed him nothing.

640
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah so we uh.

641
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I that day I fell asleep and I

642
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: went in the limo and fell asleep. So I had

643
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: woke up out my sleeping and one time just ace

644
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: my verse, you know what I mean, just dropped my ship.

645
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 5: But I remember that session because Puffy Little Seas Stevie,

646
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: j all my mo thug homeboys and I had came

647
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 5: with a lot of weed that day and I, you know,

648
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 5: set it on the count set it on the council

649
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: when you go in, like ship, what y'all want, Let's

650
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 5: get it going. You know, it's a nigga biggie. I

651
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: catch him keep putting my weed in this pop he

652
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: like he like, he like, yeah, he like your bones.

653
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey man, I'm like, man, quit putting my

654
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: weed in your pocket beat man.

655
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: But that was the.

656
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: Funny part to me that I never forget about that session.

657
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: I wasn't in the studio when Pop is his. Yeah,

658
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: the first time I met Park, we was at the

659
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: Park Hotel on uh somewhere off Sunset, And I'll never

660
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 5: forget it because I went and bought uh a bens

661
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 5: just like Park after I've seen him pull up on

662
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 5: me the way he pulled up on me in the

663
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: five double O Gas Black five double O Bens. I

664
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 5: went and got a ruby Redwin but uh, yeah, he

665
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: pulled up on me. Man, he had just got out too,

666
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: and he was before we did the remix the Crossroads.

667
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: He had just got out and he pulled up in

668
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: front of the hotel. I'm like, Nigga, that's Pop. I'm

669
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 5: telling my brother, like, Nigga, that's Pop. Like like so,

670
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: I go over there. I'm like, Pop, where the weed at?

671
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 5: He go up under his seat, grab a Philly box,

672
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: put a bunch of weed in my hand, and shit.

673
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 5: We go up to his room and it's the Outlaws

674
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 5: bone like. That was my very first time meeting me

675
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 5: man and he talked about the thug nation and putting

676
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: this whole nationwide group to get other and all that

677
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: ship and that was my first impression to Pop like

678
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 5: he he was mastered playing and some ship.

679
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: Groups groups.

680
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: Tell me a little bit about each of these groups,

681
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 4: Wang what they meant to you guys?

682
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: I mean Wu Tang, you know what I mean. That's

683
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: that's a group that Wu Tang is a group that

684
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: we always can measure our level of success up to,

685
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because it's brown about the

686
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: same time. You know, uh, them all my dudes, now man,

687
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 5: we had you know, we all grown ghost face method man,

688
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: all of them Rizzard Like, we're all good now, you

689
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But we had a fight with

690
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 5: them niggas one day at uh it was Russell Simmons

691
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: Christmas party. We had a fight with them. We had

692
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: and the reason why we grab grapping like a motherfucker.

693
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: We was afraid. We was fighting fighting over what happened.

694
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: Niggas wasn't no suckers. We wasn't neither though. We was

695
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: in New York, so they had the upper hand on

696
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: the nigga. But now what happened was we was Uh.

697
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: We had did a song called Everyday Thing on the

698
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: show soundtrack, and Russell Simmons was having a Christmas party

699
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 5: Flesh and Bone had just signed he was moped up

700
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: death Jam, so we was invited. We got there early.

701
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: By the time we we was in that motherfucker with

702
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: our shirts offt dance and turned up drinking. And by

703
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: the time you know, they got there a little late

704
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: and pushing was going on through the crowd. The niggas

705
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: came in, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushed the wrong niggas started

706
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: to fight. Bobbers got the flying niggas start running and

707
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: jumping by bars, and then they never played our song

708
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: that night until that fight broke out. I'll never forget it.

709
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: It's an everyday thing when you let you not tng

710
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: and uh, yeah, so we had you. That's who tanged man,

711
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: that's my method. Man. He did save our life that night. Yeah,

712
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: them were serious. Huh. Yeah, thats just serious, man. That's

713
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: all I'm gonna say about that.

714
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: Our cast.

715
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: Man. I love our cast, I love I love Dre,

716
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: I love I love them niggas man, I mean the

717
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: most colorful group, another group of our genre of our

718
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: in our era that we can measure ourselves up against

719
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 5: the say we did pretty good, you know what I'm saying.

720
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: So yeah, hat soft much respect to them. You know,

721
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: I think Andre three thousand is one of the greatest

722
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: hardest ever. You know big Boy too, you know what

723
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: I mean with his pimp flow. So yeah, man, I

724
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 5: love our cast. Run that's what we get it from.

725
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 5: I started writing they wraps down like okay, you know

726
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 5: what I mean. That's how it starts structuring ship just right,

727
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 5: like remember they wrap catch it on the radio. You

728
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 5: got catch it recorded, then you stop pause, write it down,

729
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 5: stop pause writing down, So run demc them them the

730
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: fathers y U GK man, you know got a pocket

731
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: full of stars. Come on, man, you know what I

732
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: mean way back when you know what I mean, like

733
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 5: when I was on the block, pocket full of stones.

734
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: UGK them was them niggas is part of my childhood

735
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: in the way to where my money Carlo really really

736
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: really really got a lot to beat up out of them,

737
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

738
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: So I Love You, GK ninety nine four times platinum,

739
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: almost won the Grammy obviously Crossroads.

740
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: What was y'all all?

741
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: So you said that was dedicated to one of your homeboys.

742
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, my homeboy Wally, Yeah, good friend of mine, best friend.

743
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: So that reaches number one on the top one hundred

744
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: one Best Rap Performance a Duo in ninety seven at

745
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: the Grammys.

746
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: What was it like getting that first Grammy?

747
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: I mean, shit, it was really it was. It wasn't

748
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 5: even like a dream come true. It was like being

749
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 5: inside of a dream, you know what I mean, like

750
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 5: not really realizing the weight that that carried at the time,

751
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 5: but just like we won a trophy, I mean, like

752
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: getting that when you hoist that championship trophy, like you're

753
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: still in the dream. But in hindsight, it was just

754
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: like whoever, who would ever thought some kids and Cleveland

755
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: ninety nine. Everybody said we couldn't do it. So we've

756
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: been going against the grain the whole time, you know

757
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: what I mean. So that that was the first solidification

758
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 5: of well, you know, making it, then selling records, but

759
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: then getting the accolade amongst your peers. It was a

760
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 5: whole nother level, like, okay, now that's when I start

761
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: thinking about a brand. It wasn't until the end it

762
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: I even considered that we were a brand.

763
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Are you the one?

764
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: The kind of that's what you were to the group

765
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: kind of just seeing the vision in the future of

766
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 4: everything behind the scenes on the business side.

767
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: I think we all played the intricate part in seeing

768
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 5: the vision, but I think I played more of the

769
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: easy e role, you know what I'm saying, Like my

770
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: job to me, my job was to always do the

771
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: politic and like my verse, I had my verse done

772
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 5: like crazy Bond to sit there and he'd come with

773
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: some harmonies and mastermind the whole song. I had my

774
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 5: shit together, boom boom boom. But I'm off to come

775
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 5: talk to y'all so I can get this next play

776
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 5: going for this next thing we got going. So that's

777
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 5: that's me. So a lot of my flak, our fans

778
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: even they called me. They they labeled me the glue, like, oh,

779
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: you the glue because you know I've been there. But

780
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: you know, I feel I feel like in a lot

781
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 5: of ways, you know, I started this ship. So it's

782
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: my duty to look after my brothers and whatever it takes,

783
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: you know.

784
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: Goddamn right, victorious thug. What was it like when that hit.

785
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: Man? That shit, That shit was so huge, man, it

786
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 5: was like it was a rebirth on a whole nother level,

787
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Because for one, when we

788
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 5: recorded the song, Biggie never did his verse that night

789
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 5: he took the ship home. After he did, Busy did his,

790
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 5: Crazy did his, then I did mine.

791
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Then it was.

792
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: Probably like two in the morning. We all kicking it.

793
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 5: He was like, yo, yoa, I'm gonna take this home.

794
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: Were like, we tried to get him to do it.

795
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: He was like no, So now we know why he

796
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 5: took it home. He wasn't studied.

797
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: But when it.

798
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: Came out, though, that was the first time you heard it.

799
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: When it came out, the.

800
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: First time we heard it, Yeah, and he had he

801
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: was dead. He passed away, so we didn't hear the

802
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 5: complete song until after he passed. The song came out

803
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 5: after he passed away, so to hear him come like

804
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 5: he came, that was That's when New York started fucking

805
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: with us, do you know. I mean, like before then

806
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 5: we'd go do shows and we're probably sell out bb kings,

807
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 5: but our crowds, like New York was hard on Cleveland

808
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: rappers or other rappers period, you know what I'm saying.

809
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: So the door, Yeah, that song kicked the dough in

810
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 5: for us. Thank you, big, appreciate you.

811
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: First of the Month, I mean still viral on social media.

812
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: Playbo Cardi took a line from it. I mean, did

813
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: you ever think that that song would do what it's done?

814
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: I mean, ship the game did it to him and

815
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 5: Chris Brown. We're having a celebration. Yeah, man, No, I

816
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: mean that's just that was just our way of life. No,

817
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 5: I mean the first of the month, that's what we're

818
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: waiting on, you know what I mean, were waiting to

819
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: re up, We waiting put the food on the grill.

820
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 5: It's like that was a holiday back then, back when, Yeah,

821
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that's that's when we

822
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: grew up knowing like it's different now, but back then,

823
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 5: you know that government assistance sometimes that was the only

824
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 5: way we ate. And then when the crack everydemic came through,

825
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 5: this show the nigga how to double that. So it's

826
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, but the first of the money, I

827
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: think is always gonna be relevant because you get a

828
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 5: paycheck on the first of the money.

829
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: You know, when you sit back today, and as athletes

830
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: were always programmed to just what's next, what's next? I'm

831
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 4: sure and your profession is similar when you sit back

832
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: now and kind of look back on your journey and

833
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: dudes from Cleveland off the block and what you've been

834
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: able to accomplish, from the accolades to the millions and

835
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: millions apart, millions of record sos. Legends're gonna be inducted

836
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame soon. Like what do you think.

837
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick to entertainment, you

838
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I think I think entertainment as

839
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: far as movies. You know what I mean. I'm a writer,

840
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 5: so I write scripts, I write poetry, and you know,

841
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: and my life is basically based around being creative writing

842
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 5: and you know, coming up with different ideas and you know,

843
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 5: so my future is looking like I'm dabbling in everything, man,

844
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I got the first of

845
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: the month's script movie written down, seventy one script written

846
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: one called ball and written. So producing my own music, music, movies,

847
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: my own clothes, clothing, lazy gear. You know, my last

848
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: name is house, so I make house shoes. I started

849
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: to come in my house shoes and house coach today,

850
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 5: but I would freak y'all out. Next time. I'm gonna

851
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: bring y'all something. And I did get some gifts for y'all.

852
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: What you got as far as uh bomb dougs and

853
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 5: harmony merchandise. We appreciate big niggas. I don't know, yo,

854
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 5: mo back.

855
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: To hang it on the wall.

856
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: There you go, Jack, Thank you.

857
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what's saying, and I just stuff

858
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 5: and real quick.

859
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: To appreciate you. All right. We got quick hitters. First

860
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: thing to come to mind, oh ship, and so we

861
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: got one for you too, Smoke Drip the smoke Drip.

862
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 5: I got books and everything.

863
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 2: Quick hitters, first thing to come to mind.

864
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 4: Let us know your thoughts. Who are your top five

865
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: rap groups of all time?

866
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: Rap groups run DMC, Beastie Boys, Ghetto Boys, n W

867
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: A Damn. It's a split between Public Enemy and Boogie

868
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 5: Down productions. So you know I had one of them.

869
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 5: Got to share.

870
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: One one album that you can listen to with no skips.

871
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: East nineteen ninety ninety to Chronic was our cast first album. Yeah, sir,

872
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 5: Yeah that one, that couple of Wayne's, couple of t I's. Man,

873
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 5: you know, it's some classics out here.

874
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody the other day.

875
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: They forgot how cold Tiya was shocking Jaman and Ship

876
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 4: today that she woke me up.

877
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: T I one of my favorite artists too.

878
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. Who is some of your

879
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: favorite artists?

880
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, the ship all time? You know we gonna

881
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 5: Michael Jackson from Old School Man new addition, you know

882
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 5: what I mean ship If we're talking about last couple

883
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: of decades, Lil Wayne, t I, I got independent artists

884
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 5: that I really like, Like Dizzy right, my nephew. I

885
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 5: really get into his shitty from the heart man, it's

886
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: it's I love music, really like every genre of music.

887
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: I really get into it. And I and I and

888
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: I take elements from everywhere.

889
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: Your childhood crush, your child who's your who's your childhood crush?

890
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: Ah man, or maybe when you first got in the game,

891
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: you're like, damn, I got to meet her.

892
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 5: Damn. I don't know shit. I think everybody say, Holly Berry, huh,

893
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 5: everybody say that.

894
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: We'll need to give us a list that's a safe ony. Uh,

895
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: five dinner guests U plus five people dead are alive?

896
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: Who's coming to your table?

897
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 5: Mm hmm coming to my table outside of your group?

898
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: Okay, outside excluded?

899
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: Get uh, let me see that I need to talk

900
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: to Uh. I want to talk to Barack Obama. He

901
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 5: gotta come to dinner. I need Lebrin at the table

902
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: that's home. Yeah, probably want to talk to Malcolm and

903
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: Martin that's four. And then put a little bit of

904
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: Jesus in there and let me see what he got,

905
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 5: what he got to say about this, this unification at

906
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 5: the dinner table, this next supper.

907
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can see one guest on our show,

908
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: who would it be?

909
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: But you have to help us get your answer on

910
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: our show.

911
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: So somebody you know that you want to see on

912
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: our show and you're gonna hit him up and tell him, like, yo,

913
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: I just did this show.

914
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: You come.

915
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: You should come fuck with them too.

916
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: I don't know. Y'all have had so many folks on

917
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 5: Fat Joe. Y'all seen y'all talk to Fat Joe.

918
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe had some stories.

919
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: Joe be fucking up stories, y'all see Joe, Lady, my

920
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 5: uncle Georgia, my uncle georgia'all yeah.

921
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: The whole song.

922
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, but Joe, I go back with Joe

923
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 5: so far, you know, I mean like since the beginning

924
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 5: of the Relativity days when when he first signed we

925
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 5: was in his first video Dope. Yeah. So yeah, man, Joe,

926
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 5: he them stories. He gotta be real as the nigga

927
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: been everywhere.

928
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Finish it up?

929
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: Finished?

930
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh I'm tripping them high. Yeah we finished?

931
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: Is it? Man?

932
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming through today. Best of luck with everything.

933
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 4: If you need us for anything and any promotion anything,

934
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: you know, man, we're huge.

935
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack act I didn't want to throw it out there.

936
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: I want to water.

937
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

938
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: So all them scripts you got if you need something.

939
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of role would you play?

940
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: It don't even matter, sucker. I can't.

941
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: Talk to a lot of people in the in the music,

942
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: I mean in the acting business. Said try to pick

943
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: roles that's closer to you. So I can't play no, sucker.

944
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: He said, he got a.

945
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: Roll for your cat.

946
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 5: We can't do no sucking shot at all, at all, none. Zero.

947
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 5: I got a cold uncle roll for you.

948
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man, uncle fire ready.

949
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm already with it. So finishing off real man.

950
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, man, congratulations the success, amazing career, new music,

951
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: your a legend.

952
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: It was the honor for you to sit down with

953
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: us today.

954
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 5: Man, so best of luck, and I just want to say, uh,

955
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: the Bone album is coming soon, you know, the Bone

956
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 5: Thug the Bible Basic Constructions before leaving Earth, and uh,

957
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 5: my new solo record is called Dash the dashing between

958
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: your death day, your birthday and your death day at

959
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 5: the time, I'm talking about life, so you know, keep

960
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 5: supporting Bone Thugs and harmony. I appreciate y'all for having me.

961
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: Man.

962
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 5: Y'all some real g's appreciate you and I love you know,

963
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 5: being able to intertwine with the realist and appreciate that.

964
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 5: And I hope I gave y'all all the smoke.

965
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. That's Lazy Bone on all the Smoke.

966
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: You can catch this on All the Smoke Productions YouTube

967
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 4: and the Draft Kings Network.

968
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: We'll see all that sweet.

969
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmm

970
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: Fo