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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast.

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Speaker 1: What a week and we are so close to the

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Speaker 1: French Open coming up, of course, joined this week by

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Speaker 1: the one and only Kitlyn Thompson.

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Speaker 2: You're back, Caitlyn.

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Speaker 1: I decided to bring Hannah Burner in for a little laughter,

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Speaker 1: a little deep diving into college tennis and herself.

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Speaker 2: But you're back this week.

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Speaker 3: How good to have you. Fair enough, Hannah Burner is

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Speaker 3: a star that burns brightly, so I'm happy to I

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Speaker 3: was also in Rome, so I was doing different stuff

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Speaker 3: while you were having Hannah Burner on. So you know,

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Speaker 3: all is well?

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Speaker 2: That ends well, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Shall we get into you?

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Speaker 2: How was your little trip to Rhyme? Actually fill into all.

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Speaker 3: Let's just get right into Rome. We'll talk about what happened.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to give you a report for my trip,

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Speaker 3: which was marvelous. What a great tournament. I have nothing

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Speaker 3: but amazing things to say about the Tournament of Room.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine you probably have a little bit more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I want to get into the first of all,

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Speaker 2: there was once again hunger games on the women's side.

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Speaker 2: If you'd said that Switzerlina was going to win the tournament.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of.

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Speaker 1: People would have said maybe clearly, she's won it twice before,

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Speaker 1: and she comes in again knocks off the number two

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Speaker 1: and the number four player in the world. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to tell me somebody else deserved to win

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Speaker 1: this tournament, you're smoking some you know what, because Switzerlina

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Speaker 1: was amazing in this tournament. She's won her twentieth WTA

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Speaker 1: title while winning this tournament. And not only that, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: She's only the fifth player active player anyway to ever

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Speaker 1: have won twenty or more titles.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the great.

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Speaker 1: Venus, williams IGAs, Chantech Sablenka and Vika Azarenka who I

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Speaker 1: don't know where Vicker is these days, but that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive list to join. One an incredible week, an

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Speaker 1: incredible final. Coco battled away through to the finals, was

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Speaker 1: it through to the final, but unfortunately for Coco, a

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Speaker 1: couple of the usual suspects came back to bid her

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Speaker 1: and that you know what in this match with some

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Speaker 2: The Italian Federation. It was absolutely and understandably sinners in

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Speaker 2: a momentous.

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Speaker 1: Moment with not having won a man had won the

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Speaker 1: so every seat was taken and I get it, but

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Speaker 1: my god, what the you know what with the federation's

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Speaker 2: Right, So all these beautiful seats that are right behind

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Speaker 2: the Italian Federation owns those seats. That's like Tennis Australia USTA,

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Speaker 1: Box that always is right behind a court because that

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Speaker 2: There's no excuse not to fill those seats.

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Speaker 2: And then when Switzerlena.

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Speaker 1: Got a trophy, there was two guys on the stage.

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Speaker 2: It was so embarrassing, and I'm the upset about it.

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Speaker 3: I can't say that I noticed, but it is not

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Speaker 3: decontextualize it from the larger sort of societal stuff, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, yes, I get it.

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Speaker 1: The sexism as pretty prevalent in places like Italy and Spain.

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Speaker 1: to the Italian Federation. You know, it's great that they

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Speaker 1: like this this issue of like our fans going to

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Speaker 2: Because the rest was packed. It was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it got a little bit later and the

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Speaker 2: You should people put people there that.

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Speaker 2: That's just so I want to talk about the final.

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Speaker 2: The final was awesome, though well done.

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Speaker 3: While we're talking about this topic, though, it does seem

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Speaker 2: Well, they use the thing with the men that well,

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Speaker 2: it's best of five sets. Well, yeah, but the amount

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Speaker 1: So you know, you have to sort of, you know,

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Speaker 1: Emily's definitely taken some flack over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: Year I'm legitimately worried about the quality of the men's tournament.

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Speaker 3: I am not worried about the quality of the women's tournament.

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Speaker 3: The women's tournament is going to be amazing. Even though

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Speaker 3: as passes prologue, she's looking good. Obviously, I'm not even

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Speaker 3: mentioning Rebakina or Sablenka. Like the women's tour is lousy

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Speaker 3: the closest that anybody's come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But listen before we get to talking about

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Speaker 1: that's the thing to build a perfect and a great, great,

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Speaker 1: great tennis player. You have to have no holes and

434
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Speaker 1: that's what Janick Sinner has right now. And not only that,

435
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Speaker 1: he actually believes more in himself. And that is the

436
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Speaker 1: key because I think earlier on in his career, because

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a placid guy, he's kind of very

438
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Speaker 1: quiet and interests.

439
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Speaker 2: You know, he's he's an introvert.

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 1: I think it took him a long time to actually

442
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Speaker 1: really believe that he was this great, and I think

443
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Speaker 1: he's at that point now where he knows he's that

444
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Speaker 1: great and to not have a hole in your game

445
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Speaker 1: makes you feel that way. And then the side of

446
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Speaker 1: it now, the only question mark is a physical because

447
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Speaker 1: this has happened a couple of times. It happened in Australia,

448
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Speaker 1: it happened, you know, in the match against Medvedev worried

449
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Speaker 1: there was some query on his physicality, so that would

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Speaker 1: be the only thing.

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Speaker 2: And if I was playing against him, that's what you

452
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Speaker 2: have to do.

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Speaker 1: You have to make it physical and maybe maybe you

454
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Speaker 1: can wear him down, but certainly there's not mean many

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Speaker 1: that have been able to do that over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years.

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Speaker 2: So of course now all is said and done, the

458
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Speaker 2: clay has been played.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are some tournaments going in to the French

460
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Speaker 1: the women are playing in Strasburg, blah blah blah, but

461
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Speaker 1: they're smaller tournaments. Now we start talking about who the

462
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Speaker 1: favorites are at the French Open, and of course the women's.

463
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Speaker 1: You could throw seven eight like numbers and balls in

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Speaker 1: there and say pick one out and that's possible that

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Speaker 1: they could win. It was the men, throw one ball

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Speaker 1: in there, because the chances are Janick Sinner will be

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Speaker 1: the French Open champion unless Novec Djokovic decides that he's

468
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Speaker 1: going to spring to eternity again and decide that he's

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Speaker 1: going to win the French Open and do what he

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Speaker 1: did in Paris a couple of years ago when one

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Speaker 1: of the Olympics, but it was best of three.

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Speaker 2: Best of five is a whole different story. But Caitlin,

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Speaker 2: I mean, give me your thoughts. I just think the

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Speaker 2: women's is so up for grabs. I will say that

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Speaker 2: Switzerlina let everyone know, maybe she's the favorite. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she beat everyone other than Sabolenka. She literally beat everyone

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Speaker 2: to win this tournament. And Rome is a great indicator

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Speaker 2: of who wins in Paris.

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Speaker 3: For me, if I'm putting money on anybody, honestly, it's

480
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Speaker 3: eager and not because I expected her to win this

481
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Speaker 3: tournament and was disappointed that she didn't. I expected her

482
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Speaker 3: to be in shambles because of how much turnover and

483
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Speaker 3: how technically, uh, sort of all over the place she's seen.

484
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Speaker 3: She gets panicky, and I haven't liked the fact that

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Speaker 3: she's had a sort of confusing run up. That said,

486
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Speaker 3: what she did at the height of her powers in

487
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Speaker 3: Rome looked untouchable. She didn't play that rate when she

488
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Speaker 3: lost to Fidelina. She's still panicked a little bit. But

489
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Speaker 3: Alena played the match of her life, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure how replicable that is. And i think even when

491
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Speaker 3: we've seen Fiddelina get to great heights. You know, obviously

492
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Speaker 3: she won the WTA Tour Finals a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: She's capable of amazing, amazing breakthroughs. I don't know how

494
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Speaker 3: sustainable her level is when she is playing lights out

495
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Speaker 3: the way that she played in the last couple of

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Speaker 3: rounds both against Ega and as you said, she beat everybody,

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Speaker 3: I don't see her continuing to do that, And so

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Speaker 3: to me, she's not a favorite because I think she's

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Speaker 3: kind of played herself into a corner, whereas I think

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Speaker 3: Ega now has gotten some confidence back. Yes, she lost

501
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Speaker 3: a tough match, but also this is the tournament that

502
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Speaker 3: she likes the most, she's won it the most, and

503
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Speaker 3: I think it's still hers to lose. The ones that

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Speaker 3: I have more question marks about for me are Coco

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Speaker 3: and Arena Sabalanca. Coco obviously won it last year. Arena

506
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Speaker 3: Sabalanka lost in the finals. I don't know what's going

507
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Speaker 3: on with Arena. Clay is not obviously necessarily her part

508
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Speaker 3: of the calendar to shine in, but she did get

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Speaker 3: to a finals last year and arguably could have and

510
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Speaker 3: maybe should have won it. So questions for me about

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Speaker 3: those two and then to a lesser degree, I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're Jess Bogula's and some others like, I'm

513
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Speaker 3: not sure how they necessarily break through, So to me,

514
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Speaker 3: it's actually still eagers to lose. But I'd love to

515
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Speaker 3: know what you think about the cohort around because I

516
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Speaker 3: you know, I could see anybody really lifting the trophy.

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Speaker 2: As you said, yeah, I mean, listen, I think that

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Speaker 2: I think that Ega has to go in as if

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Speaker 2: you had to pick one to win the tournament, probably

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Speaker 2: just because, as you already mentioned, she's the one that's

521
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Speaker 2: won at the most and feels incredibly comfortable on the surface.

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Speaker 1: But listen, I think Coco's got to feel really good

523
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Speaker 1: about herself. She played, you know, some up and down tennis.

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Speaker 1: As I already mentioned, the serve and the forehand are

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Speaker 1: going to be a bit of an issue if she

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Speaker 1: doesn't correct those under pressure, But she manages to win

527
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Speaker 1: so many matches even based on that, so having won

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Speaker 1: last year has to feel really good. And as you said,

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Speaker 1: lost in the finals of Rome and then went and

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Speaker 1: won the tournament in Paris. I think Sabolenka, as you

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Speaker 1: already mentioned, there's some question marks. How is the back

532
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Speaker 1: She mentioned that, how is that going to lie through

533
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Speaker 1: seven matches on clay, which is arguably one of the

534
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Speaker 1: most taxing, sort of longer arduous points where she probably

535
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Speaker 1: instead of hitting a winner, has to hit three in

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Speaker 1: a point because of clay. It's just the ability for

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Speaker 1: someone to run the ball down. But listen, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Switzerlina now I believe, is eight and zero

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Speaker 1: in finals on clay. That is an incredible stat and

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Speaker 1: I've said this forever when it comes to Switzelena, this

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Speaker 1: is before even she had her kid. When she gets

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Speaker 1: to the final, she's so hard to beat because her

543
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Speaker 1: eye is so in and she does not mind stepping

544
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Speaker 1: in and ripping the balls. I mean, she was more

545
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Speaker 1: aggressive than Coco yesterday and that's what wanted the match.

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Speaker 1: And so if she can go deep into this tournament,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that I believe she can actually win this.

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Speaker 1: Rebeccina is definitely the player to watch as well. This

549
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Speaker 1: court is going to be fast.

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Speaker 2: It depends on the It depends so much on the drawer,

551
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Speaker 2: and it depends so much on the weather, right, so

552
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Speaker 2: it's just very variable. If it's cold, if it's rainy.

553
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Speaker 1: Clearly it has a roof on center court, but they

554
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Speaker 1: won't close it unless it's really raining hard.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, if I had to put maybe some

557
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Speaker 1: money on it, it would be eager, just because of

558
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Speaker 1: her record in Paris, but it's anyone's game. Andreva might

559
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Speaker 1: have the tournament of her life. We know that she

560
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Speaker 1: can beat anybody on any given day.

561
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Speaker 2: But I mean when you look at the top ten,

562
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Speaker 2: it's pretty unbelievable the people that could possibly win this.

563
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Speaker 2: I mean, Mukhova is ten in the world.

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Speaker 1: She's made the finals there and played a terrific match

565
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Speaker 1: in that final against eager Vicky Umboco, who.

566
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Speaker 2: Has a new coach. When FA set he's back, I

567
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Speaker 2: don't know how I just.

568
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Speaker 1: Keeps rolling on to great player after great player. It's

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Speaker 1: just unbelievable to me. Wasn't he coaching the Polish male

570
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Speaker 1: player for like a second, didn't he didn't that get announced?

571
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Speaker 1: And now he's with Mumboco, Like I don't even know.

572
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Speaker 1: I've lost count of how many players this guy's coach.

573
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Speaker 1: But even like Linda Noskova's twelve in the world. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's capable of beating anyone. She beat Coco a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. So yeah, look this I can't wait

576
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Speaker 1: for it to start. It's going to depend a lot

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Speaker 1: on the draw and that will come out in a

578
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Speaker 1: couple of days, and then I'll have a bit of

579
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Speaker 1: a better indication of who I think can maybe win

580
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Speaker 1: the tournament. But if I had to put my money

581
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Speaker 1: on it, it would be maybe slightly eager. But she's

582
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Speaker 1: going to have to really get some good matches under

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Speaker 1: a belt before she gets later into the tournament, and

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Speaker 1: the men's just put Senna's name on the trophy unless

585
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Speaker 1: he physically can't figure it out. But we got big

586
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Speaker 1: us today Caitlin about the All England Club Sally Bolton

587
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Speaker 1: after six years is out, very very interesting timing. What

588
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this?

589
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Speaker 2: I mean I.

590
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Speaker 3: First wondered did she decide to step down or was

591
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Speaker 3: this a suggestion from the board and maybe some of

592
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Speaker 3: the other executives. You usually don't see this until after

593
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Speaker 3: a incredibly successful run at concluding with the most recent tournament.

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Speaker 3: Like if you look at the way that Craig Tailey

595
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Speaker 3: stepped down, and obviously he had a job waiting for

596
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Speaker 3: him at the USTA. But despite the fact that that

597
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Speaker 3: was a very public job search, everyone knew he wasn't

598
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Speaker 3: gonna make any kind of a decision or announcement certainly

599
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Speaker 3: about it until after the conclusion of the most recent,

600
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Speaker 3: very successful Australian Open. So yeah, it's a little bit

601
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Speaker 3: strange that with a month out they they've decided to

602
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Speaker 3: make a change. Obviously she's not gonna be stepping down

603
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Speaker 3: before the tournament. She'll see it through. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: exactly that they set an end date for her for

605
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Speaker 3: her tenure, but it's very strange and gives me sort

606
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Speaker 3: of further proof that I think there's a whole lot

607
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Speaker 3: of seismic change happening at the top of the sport,

608
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Speaker 3: and frankly I like that, not that this, you know, necessarily,

609
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Speaker 3: you know, this particular move needed to happen. I don't

610
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Speaker 3: have any particular feelings about this woman. Maybe you do.

611
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Speaker 3: You've played the tournament. I have, and I've been to

612
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Speaker 3: it a number of times. But it does make me

613
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Speaker 3: wonder that the change we've all been calling for in

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Speaker 3: terms of consolidation, in terms of more transparency, in terms

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Speaker 3: of modernizing, is it starting to happen. We've seen a

616
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Speaker 3: lot of shuffling of chairs at the top of the

617
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Speaker 3: sport in recent in recent months, and you know this

618
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Speaker 3: PTPA ongoing lawsuit. Obviously they're suing three of the slams.

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Speaker 3: They've been denied credentials to cover and sort of be

620
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Speaker 3: at the French Open and at at Wimbledon, which frankly

621
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Speaker 3: kind of makes sense. I'm not sure if you invite

622
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Speaker 3: somebody in the door who's who's openly suing you, But

623
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Speaker 3: that subject itself is subject to a lawsuit now, you know.

624
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Speaker 3: But Craig Tylee at Tennis Australia settled with the PTPA

625
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: and agreed to give more revenue to the players, and

626
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Speaker 3: I think we have some indications from my sources at

627
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Speaker 3: the PTPA that the USTA might follow suit, which kind

628
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Speaker 3: of leaves the two European based slams a little bit

629
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Speaker 3: in limbo now with a new new CEO in coming

630
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Speaker 3: on the on the part of the British. So I

631
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Speaker 3: do think it's very interesting, and I think again it's

632
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Speaker 3: it's sort of overdue. We have a lot of chain

633
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: that needed to happen at the top of the sport.

634
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: We have a lot of consolidation that still needs to

635
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Speaker 3: happen at the top of the sport, and it's kind

636
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Speaker 3: of unclear who's who's driving the agenda, who's driving the

637
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Speaker 3: ship wimbled in itself, the thing that's the most notable

638
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Speaker 3: about it is, in and of itself, it is the

639
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: most valuable brand in tennis. It is the most singularly

640
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: profitable brand that extends beyond the fortnite of play that

641
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: exists in tennis. Sure, the US Open can say that

642
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: they make more money on ticketed events more because of

643
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: some consecutive thing, and that is also true. But in

644
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Speaker 3: terms of brand equity, Wimbledon in a lot of ways

645
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Speaker 3: is bigger than Tennis's and so I do think whatever

646
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Speaker 3: happens with that tournament next is really going to define

647
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Speaker 3: sort of the future of what happens with not only

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Speaker 3: the other Slams, but also the tours and also the

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Speaker 3: governing bodies that are sort of I would say maybe

650
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Speaker 3: on their back heels a little bit like the ITF

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Speaker 3: or some of the team competitions like the Billy Jean

652
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Speaker 3: King Cup or Davis Cup. It's just we're lousy with acronyms,

653
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Speaker 3: we're lousy with too many cooks, and we're not really

654
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Speaker 3: subject to a lot of transparency, alignment, unity and vision,

655
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Speaker 3: and so I tend to think chaos, especially when it

656
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Speaker 3: follows a long period of ossification, which is what these

657
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Speaker 3: you know, this sport has unfortunately been subject to. Is

658
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Speaker 3: not necessarily a bad thing, and of course that has

659
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with Miss Bolton and her leadership.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think look at Wimbledon has now got finally

661
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Speaker 1: got these are able to build across the road. This

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Speaker 1: Wimbledon is going to really transforms its grounds are going

663
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Speaker 1: to be huge, and if anyone has been to Wimbledon,

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Speaker 1: the beauty of Wimbledon is the you know, you're so

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Speaker 1: close to the courts.

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Speaker 2: It's the intimacy of Wimbledon. The lack of advertising, all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, as you said, because Wimbledon is

668
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Speaker 2: such an entity upon itself, but the growth was needed.

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Speaker 2: They need another big court.

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Speaker 1: They're going to build across the street and that's all

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Speaker 1: going to happen in the next three to four five years.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they feel like, I don't know, maybe they just

673
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Speaker 1: feel like Sally's not the person for the for the

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Speaker 1: expansion of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. After six years, it's pretty it's not

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think about how long Craig Tyler has been at

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Speaker 1: Tennis Australia and what a great job he did there,

679
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Speaker 1: and it's got his hands cut out for him to

680
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Speaker 1: come over to the USDA because it is a very

681
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Speaker 1: different situation the USTA did to Tennis Australia, where he

682
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Speaker 1: had a lot of autonomy at Tennis Australia is the

683
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Speaker 1: us TA is gonna have to work with a lot

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Speaker 1: of different entities. Wimbledon is an entity upon itself, So

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Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be interesting to who they bring in

686
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Speaker 1: to do that job. I have a few people that

687
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Speaker 1: I would suggest that could do that job really well.

688
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's an interesting timing, as you said, so

689
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Speaker 1: close to the tournament. But it'll be great to see

690
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Speaker 1: what the All England Club does with this new expansion

691
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Speaker 1: of the of the grounds because it is my favorite tournament,

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Speaker 1: and as you said, Wimbledon is bigger because when anyone

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Speaker 1: ever asked me or did you did you ever play

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Speaker 1: at Wimbledon? They never say did you ever play at

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Speaker 1: the French Open? Never, no one's ever said did you

696
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Speaker 1: ever play at the French did you ever play strut?

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Speaker 1: Only people care about is if you say I want

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Speaker 1: it Wimbledon, They're like, what you want it Wimbledon. It's

699
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Speaker 1: like the only tennis tournament that anybody knows about, which

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Speaker 1: is remarkable. Even the US Open doesn't get as much

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Speaker 1: recognition even in this country.

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Speaker 2: In the US. So, yes, as you said, it's incredibly

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Speaker 2: valuable property. It's like the Masters, It's just they're just

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Speaker 2: different to everything else.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it supersedes people's understanding of tennis. And

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Speaker 3: it is also going back to the French Open. Why

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Speaker 3: I think the French Open rebranded itself as Roland Garros

708
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Speaker 3: as opposed to when you were playing and when I

709
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Speaker 3: was growing up, certainly we just called it the French Open,

710
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Speaker 3: did we not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Always, and I still do. Yeah. So now it

712
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Speaker 2: will never be Rolling Garros to me, It'll always be

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Speaker 2: the French Open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Roland Garros in history was a French

715
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Speaker 3: aviator who I think was shut down they think by

716
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Speaker 3: h German in World War One, but it wasn't like

717
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Speaker 3: this is a tournament named after one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: champions of all time, like a Billy Jean King National

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Speaker 3: Tennis Center, or you know a Yanick Noah who was

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Speaker 3: one of the first Frenchmen in a very long time

721
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Speaker 3: after the Four Musketeers, last win a Grand Slam and

722
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Speaker 3: was the last one to win. So yeah, it's sort

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Speaker 3: of weird. But what I am bringing up here is

724
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Speaker 3: that it actually has very valuable IP potential. So when

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Speaker 3: people walk around with a shirt that says Wimbledon on it,

726
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Speaker 3: it is unmistakable.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Masters.

728
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Speaker 3: As you said, Roland Garas, they have great merch Actually

729
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Speaker 3: I really recommend people go if they go to the

730
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Speaker 3: tournament and go buy some because it is a cut

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Speaker 3: above pretty much everyone else is. It's still not quite

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Speaker 3: a thing, I think for a lot of the English

733
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Speaker 3: speaking world anyway, So it's very it's very strange, all right,

734
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Speaker 3: we have tons.

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Speaker 2: That's a good points. I never thought about it. Why

736
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Speaker 2: they changed it.

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Speaker 3: They change it because of that anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so let's take a break, and where are you

739
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Speaker 1: going to get answers to you questions that you sent

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Speaker 1: into the socials to me after the right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Caitlin, this is your favorite time or you get.

742
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Speaker 1: To read the questions that people have sent in for

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Speaker 1: us to answer. And so you said, there's been some

744
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: really good ones today, so let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: I love to read the questions. This is my favorite

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Speaker 3: part you do. And I'm going to get it. I'm

747
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: going to start with something kind of controversial.

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Speaker 2: I love this. I have no just so everybody knows

749
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Speaker 2: out there, I have no decision in this decide what

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Speaker 2: she decides to read.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I try to make it a good mix,

752
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: and I also try to make the topics really toothsome

753
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: so keep it up. The questions have been great, and

754
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: they're all sort of interesting and varied. Okay, Carolyn Pruski

755
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: from Los Angeles writes with a subject I know you're

756
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: going to want to dig your teeth into is I

757
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: have heard you talk about commentators who talk too much

758
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: during the matches when they shouldn't. What is the balance

759
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: in your opinion and your intent when you commentate?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, listen, The most important thing is look.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you know this about

762
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: listening to our podcast, but I can talk and so

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00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: and I can I can break down a point or

764
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Speaker 1: a player every single point.

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Speaker 2: I can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But there has to be a balance of, you know,

767
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: making sure that you're balancing the talking about critiquing a

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Speaker 1: point and also understanding that you're laboring the same point

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Speaker 1: over and over.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to get into like ripping on someone

772
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: all the time. But there has to be a balance

773
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Speaker 1: of when it gets later in a set, for example,

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Speaker 1: or in a tie break. And you know, Lindsay Davenport,

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Speaker 1: you would always tell me she barely talks in a

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Speaker 1: tie break because those are such important times in matches,

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Speaker 1: so it's.

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Speaker 2: Really important to let it breathe. As a producer will

779
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: tell you, let it breathe, Let it breathe, meaning let

780
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Speaker 2: the crowd be heard. One thing that really bothers me

781
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: is when commentators talk over when the player's box is

782
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: telling the play to something like even if I'm in

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Speaker 2: mid sentence, like, just just stop talking, because nothing you

784
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Speaker 2: say is more important than what you're going to hear

785
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Speaker 2: from that coach or from that player in that position,

786
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Speaker 2: Like they could say something to a coach that just

787
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: gives you so much into where their mind is at.

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Speaker 2: And also a coach can say something that can give

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Speaker 2: you everything you need to know about what the player

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: is about to do. So little things like that are

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Speaker 2: super important.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's just a balance of knowing when

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Speaker 1: the crowd is going crazy, when you know when the

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: people at home are probably into the match, they don't

795
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: really need you to tell them too much of that moment.

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Speaker 1: So understand there are times when to talk and what

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00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: to talk about, and also the emotional side of it,

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00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: and maybe never not really talking about yourself too much

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Speaker 1: in matches as well, like or when I played her,

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Speaker 1: or when this happened. And it's like there's very very

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: few times where you can insert your own, you know,

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Speaker 1: history into something to make it understandable to a viewer

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: at home, So there is a really it's not an

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Speaker 1: easy job. I've had people write to me on Twitter, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: I've showed it to you where I've had one comment

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Speaker 1: that is just ripping me to shreds and the one

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Speaker 1: underneath it is like telling me I'm the great things

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Speaker 1: in side splay. So you can't please everybody, but the

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Speaker 1: most important thing is just to pull back sometimes and

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Speaker 1: other times it's to let the viewer know how they

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Speaker 1: can be better at their own sport.

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Speaker 3: I do want to give you kudos because to me,

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Speaker 3: you are impeccably additive. You're always telling me more than

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00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm seeing about what's happening on the court because of

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00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: your perspective, and you don't need to shovel it down

816
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: my throat with what I played or I happen to know,

817
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: or making yourself the center of attention. You're adding to

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Speaker 3: my experience watching. And I do have a follow up

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Speaker 3: question from Carolyn, who packed a lot into her message,

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Speaker 3: which is just networks executives give you guys any notes

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Speaker 3: or are they intimidated since a lot of honor talent

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Speaker 3: were former pros.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I think a really good producer is one that listens

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Speaker 1: to it and says, I'm learning. So if you're learning,

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Speaker 1: and you're learning more about the sport, then that's really

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Speaker 1: our audience because I'm not going to talk to someone

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Speaker 1: like me. There's only very few people in the world

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Speaker 1: that have experienced what I've experienced on the tennis tour, right,

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Speaker 1: So yes, I'd take a lot of pride in when

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Speaker 1: other tennis players say, oh, I really enjoyed your call

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Speaker 1: or I really liked listening to you, because that means

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Speaker 1: a lot to me. That means that I'm making sense

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Speaker 1: to a pro like to somebody that really knows the sport.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's important when a producer does say

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Speaker 1: to you, oh, I learned a lot today, because that

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Speaker 1: means I'm talking to the audience that I'm really trying

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Speaker 1: to get to. And so I've had some producers, you know,

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Speaker 1: recently at ESPN, for example, a guy by the name

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Speaker 1: of Mike McQuaid would sit It's the first time it's

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00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: ever happened to me, actually sat with me for over

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Speaker 1: an hour and watched a match with me and gave

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Speaker 1: me a critical you know, gave me critique in the

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Speaker 1: positive and the negative, and thankfully with him, it was

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Speaker 1: a lot of positive, which really felt good for me.

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Speaker 2: But he constantly would be like, that was good. You

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Speaker 2: could add a little bit more now, And his thing

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Speaker 2: was always, it's always about the why, Renee, tell me

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Speaker 2: why you're saying what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: And so I was so grateful for someone like Mike,

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00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: who's been in the industry for over twenty five years

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00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: to help me, you learn to be better at my

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00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: job as a journalist, so and as a commentator. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are some producers that don't say a word to you,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're gone, you're not

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Speaker 1: working there anymore. And some are really positive and and

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Speaker 1: good with the critique of you and trying to get

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Speaker 1: you to be better. So there are balances. And the producer,

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Speaker 1: the executive producers the one that makes a decision on

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Speaker 1: who gets matches, and that's how it comes down to.

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Speaker 2: We have a roster.

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Speaker 1: The roster comes out the night before the matches get

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Speaker 1: put on a schedule, and then the producer decides who's

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Speaker 1: doing what matches and who's going to be on the desk,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be courtside, and it's always up to them.

866
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: It's it's never our decision. There's a related question, a

867
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: lot of questions about this. There's a related question from

868
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: Karen Geiney who asks who decides who's calling a match?

869
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: Is it an assignment for a producer seniority and this person.

870
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: Karen was surprised that Petco and Jim Courrier, a friend

871
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: Adrea pek It and Jim Currier, who were commentating at

872
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: least State Sad for Tennis Channel, weren't on the Realm Final.

873
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: I have some theories, but I'd love to hear it

874
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 3: from you. Who gets which matches and why?

875
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Again, it comes down to the producer. They decide who

876
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: gets the matches, and sometimes it's pre set. I believe

877
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: that Peco was only scheduled to be there till Friday,

878
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: so they've made a decision that she's only going to

879
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: work the semifinals and then she'll leave. And that once

880
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: you know your travel schedule that you're not going to

881
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: be there on Saturday and Sunday, you know you're not

882
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: going to be doing the final. So that's totally up

883
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: to the producer or the executive. The executive producer decides

884
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: in the end.

885
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: The producers might suggest, but the executive producer, so the

886
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: big bosses there, you know, you can look it up online.

887
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: Who's executive producer of ESPN Tennis executive producer of Tennis Channel,

888
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: for example, And they're the ones that make the most

889
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of the time.

890
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: They're the ones that make the final judgement and who

891
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: does what matches.

892
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes they try and mix it up, like I

893
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: believe Petco did the Madrid final, so maybe they decided

894
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: to put Coco win for the final of Rome to

895
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: mix it up and share share it around so we're

896
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: not hearing the same voice over and over.

897
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: There are various different reasons. Some even have it in

898
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: their contract that they do certain matches. So it does

899
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: come down to in the end, the executive producers the

900
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: one that decides who does matches. They're not the talent.

901
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: We don't decide anything. We just like bow our heads

902
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: and go okay, I'll see you there.

903
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you who should be deciding, and

904
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: it's me because I have some very clear favorites, and

905
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I have certain people that I would never ever listen

906
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: to commentate anything, much less my favorite sport on the world. Okay,

907
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: a couple questions about we know the WTA next Gen Finals,

908
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: why doesn't the WTA have a next Gen Finals? And

909
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: for clarity, the ATP Tour has a tournament that has

910
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: been won a number of times by people like Jannick Centner,

911
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: by people like ttypas Hot are big names win this thing,

912
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: and it's seen as a sort of farm team, and

913
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: the WTA does not have one. Any any guess as

914
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: to why, I know why I think it doesn't.

915
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: Well, why don't you answer this question, because you seem

916
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of an inkling of why.

917
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: I don't think the WTA has enough money and I

918
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: don't think that they can successfully sell their WTA finals sadly,

919
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: for reasons that any listener on this podcast should have

920
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: no surprise as to why. So that is that's that's

921
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: I think probably the case. Okay, Phil, nowhen asks should

922
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: cramps be allowed to be treated to keep the show alive?

923
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: It's such a bummer if a match gets retired or

924
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 3: I guess paused because of cramps. Cramps, you're not allowed

925
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: to take a medical time out. What do you think

926
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: about cramps and how should we treat them?

927
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, see this is the problem with cramps is

928
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: that you can say, oh, it's it's not my I'm

929
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: not cramping. I have a my hamstring. I think I've

930
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: pulled my hamstring. So if you're smart the way you

931
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: do it, you just say, yeah, I definitely think I've

932
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: torn something in my hamstring.

933
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Even though my hamstring is also cramping. The physio can't

934
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: decide that it's you're lying. It's not like the physy

935
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: can go no, no, no, you're just cramping, and it says, well, yeah,

936
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Speaker 1: I think I might be cramping somewhat, but I definitely

937
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: pull my hamstring as well, so you have to treat that.

938
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: So there are ways to get around it. I mean,

939
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: we saw it in Australia with Carlos, we saw it

940
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: in Rome recently with Sinner. He said that his I

941
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: think I would believe it was his quad was tightening,

942
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: which could be true. He could be he could feel

943
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: a pain in there, that his quad was starting to

944
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, give out on him a little bit and

945
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, the cramping also starts,

946
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: or his body is breaking down a little bit. But

947
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what Phil's saying. Phil saying, well,

948
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: even if it is a cramp, who cares, Let's treat

949
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: it and let the match go on kind of thing.

950
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: And you know I don't disagree with that. I mean, listen,

951
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: we saw that a couple of weeks ago with the

952
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: player that was literally cramping for about three minutes and

953
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the umpire got out of the chair, the physio came

954
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: out and he was like screaming bloody murder and then

955
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: got up and beat was it with the French guy

956
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Unbere lost that match?

957
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: Remember that, It was just like ridiculous. It's like everyone

958
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: knew that was a cramp, so they didn't treat him,

959
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: but they still gave him like three minutes to get

960
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: down the other end of the court. So rules are

961
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, they're expanded often, and whether it's good for

962
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: the game or bad for the game, as far as

963
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, it is better if we treat them and

964
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: get them back on the court and let them finish

965
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: a match. Then just go too bad cramping, get off

966
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: the court.

967
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm not really a lover that lover of that either

968
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: because often, and I've been told this by physios, it's

969
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily you don't get a cramp necessarily from lack

970
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: of training and physicality. Some people are just prone to

971
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: cramp more than others because they sweat more or they

972
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: have a predisposed cramping issue, and so that's not a

973
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: loss of physical conditioning in some people because it just

974
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: naturally that's how they go down.

975
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: And so I don't know. I'm with Phil on this.

976
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather treat the cramp and let them play. I

977
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: had a cramp in a match once and I was like,

978
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: come on, like, you know, get out. They just rubbed

979
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: it for like the ninety seconds of the break and

980
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: then I went back out and played. But yeah, I know,

981
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: a five minute I don't believe in that they should

982
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: have a five minute injury timeout, but I think that

983
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: they should be allowed to have the train to come

984
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: out and rub it out and try and get them

985
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: back on the court.

986
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

987
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: Here's a tour question for you, which is sort of

988
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: newly relevant because Ben Shelton has done decently well on

989
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: in this clay swing right now from Michelle, what do

990
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: you think Ben Shelton needs to do to be more competitive?

991
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: I love his game, love that he's a lefty and

992
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: his dad is his coach, But it seems like the

993
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: experts are split down the middle on whether he should

994
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: just serve bombs or mix it up.

995
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on different surfaces he has to vary

996
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: the serf and on clay maybe a few more kick

997
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: serves to set up the forehand. But you've got to

998
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: have patients on clay, and Ben's probably not known for

999
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: his patients to come into the nat. He likes to

1000
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: be aggressive, he likes to hit the big fourhand. It's

1001
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: just a matter of him.

1002
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: I think he'll be I think he'll do well at

1003
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: the French I think he really gets up for the

1004
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: big tournaments and big matches, and the French Open does

1005
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: lend itself to some aggressive play, especially if the weather

1006
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: is good, and if the weather's hot, then Ben will

1007
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: be banging down serves. But I think look him going

1008
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: with the big gun server is a great thing if

1009
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: he's hitting it in, but his kickserver is so big

1010
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: and his forehand is so big, so being able to

1011
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: set it up, you know, and use that kickserve to

1012
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: be able to open up the court is also a

1013
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: great thing. And he can slide people off the court

1014
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: with the lefty serve, so variation is also a very

1015
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: important thing to have as a big server.

1016
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: That's what Serena always had. She had that slider why

1017
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: that she would hit after hitting like a one twenty

1018
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: down the tee. So variation is very important. But I

1019
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: think I think Ben's going to surprise. I think he's

1020
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: going to have a decent French Open.

1021
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's looked comfortable so far on the

1022
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: dirt this year. Question from Zach Eager, what's your tike

1023
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: on the state of end tennis and its placed in

1024
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: the tennis ecosystem. I'll answer that we love it, and

1025
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: we think it's amazing and it should take a more

1026
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: prominent space. What do you make of calls to restrict

1027
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: roster spots for international players? Zach, thank you so much

1028
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: for the question. I would refer you to the three

1029
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: or four episodes we did earlier this spring on this

1030
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: very subject itself, where we unpacked a lot of the

1031
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: goings on. So I'm gonna refer you to those so

1032
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: that I can ask Renee A great question from Anjuli

1033
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: who writes Two of my favorite creative players, Daria Kasatkina

1034
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: Gregor Dimitrov are struggling massively right now. Is that a

1035
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: post injury lag or does tennis karma no longer favor

1036
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: creative players in the latter half of their careers give

1037
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: us some hope that they will survive well.

1038
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in lack of creativity, because obviously

1039
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: both of them do have that, and I think there

1040
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: is still a very much a world that needs that

1041
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: on the tennis courd and I think Variation will win

1042
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of matches.

1043
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: I think it just comes down to confidence, and neither

1044
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: of them have it right now.

1045
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: Kasakina just won a small tournament, A one twenty five

1046
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: on collect so her confidence is slowly getting back. So

1047
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: look out for her to have a decent French Open,

1048
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: because she does play well there. I think it's a

1049
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: matter for her. Her biggest issue has always been the serve.

1050
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: It's just crap. I don't know how and why she

1051
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: doesn't work on it. That would be the first thing

1052
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: I would do, because she has the ability to hit

1053
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: so many different shots, but her serve is just woeful

1054
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: and it just gets crushed with these women who were tall,

1055
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: big and strong that were to go after returns. It's

1056
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: what hurts Coco Gough as well, is the second serve.

1057
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: It's What's gotten her into a lot of trouble. If

1058
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: you look at the stats when she loses, she loses

1059
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: so many points on her second serve, whereas opponent doesn't

1060
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: do that as much. And with Grigor it's just I

1061
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: think he just he missed that unbelievable opportunity when he

1062
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: heard his arm against Janick Sinner at Wimbledon last year,

1063
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: and since then he's really struggled to get his confidence back.

1064
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big game and so his game

1065
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: is always predicated on really really playing with confidence, and

1066
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: sadly for him, that is not there. Hopefully, if he

1067
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: gets under the grass and plays as well as he

1068
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: did last year, maybe he can get that comnfidence back.

1069
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: But sadly, I think that is some that's just the

1070
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: nature of this business, of this sport. Once you lose

1071
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: your confidence, it's really hard to get it back, particularly

1072
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: when there's so many great players out there.

1073
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: It is the tennis is the hardest sport to be

1074
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: great at. It really is.

1075
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: So if you look at my Instagram, I think I

1076
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: posted something about that yesterday. It's like one and two billion,

1077
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: two million to be a professional, and it's the hardest

1078
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Speaker 1: one of all to be a professional, and so Gregor's

1079
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: finding that out sadly right now. Two more questions, Caitlin,

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00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: are we done for this week? Because I know that

1081
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you're going to be getting up at oh one more?

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Speaker 1: One more this week?

1083
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: One more?

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00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: We're popular this week. I think you're going to like it.

1085
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 3: And it's certainly something we've talked about before. But Becky

1086
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: Morgan wants to know right now, if you could pick

1087
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: any player from either tour to coach right now, who

1088
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 3: would it be and how This is the part that

1089
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: I really want to hear. How do you think you

1090
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 3: would help their game?

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00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a loaded question.

1092
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I'll get in trouble half the time because you know, sometimes, Caitlin,

1093
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: when I say stuff, it goes all over the internet.

1094
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: Everyone just thinks that I just you know, Ah, So

1095
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've said for years that I would

1097
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: love to coach Carolyn Mahovah, I would love to coach

1098
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: Haley Baptiste.

1099
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: And I think I say those players.

1100
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Because they play an all court game kind of thing,

1101
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: and so I think just managing the way that they

1102
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: put those points together.

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00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: I think Muhova with Sven Groenefeld is a good move.

1104
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: So that's all good.

1105
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Someone like a Hailey Baptiste, I think I could help

1106
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: to when to sort of hit certain shots, when to

1107
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: come into the net, when not to, how to come

1108
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: into that a little bit better, how to just structure

1109
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: her points a little bit better, how to pick on

1110
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: somebody's weakness a little bit better. That's sort of like

1111
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: what I think what I do really well, and so

1112
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: those types of players would be great. I would love

1113
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity also just to sit down with

1114
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: Coco for an hour just discuss certain things about her

1115
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: game and about what she thinks on the court, what

1116
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: she feels like she needs to get better at, and

1117
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: have a really sort of like heart to heart with

1118
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: her about those things. But you know, any of these

1119
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: players would be an opportunity to work with any of

1120
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the top players to just to add a little extra.

1121
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what I do well, is that I

1122
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: see where the sort of their bottom line is and

1123
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: where their top line could be and making them believe

1124
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: in themselves in that way. So you know, the question

1125
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: is great, The answer is loaded and long, and it

1126
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: could be so many of these top players. One player

1127
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: also that was mentioned in the questions I know was

1128
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: whereas Emma Navarro, that'd be a great player. I'd love

1129
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: to find out what's going on with Emma and sort

1130
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: of get her back on track a little bit. But look,

1131
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: there's so many great players out there, and as we've

1132
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: talked about over the last couple of weeks, hunger Games

1133
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: on the women's side, there's so many we could talk

1134
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: about and so many players that I would love to

1135
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: work with. But the bottom line is I'm here with you, Caitlin,

1136
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: and we're about to sit down and get ready to

1137
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: watch your two favorite weeks of the year, the tournament

1138
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: in Rolling Garros, which is still and will forever be

1139
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: to me, the French Open.

1140
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 3: All right, well, that's a great place to leave it.

1141
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 3: Thank you again for wonderful reader questions, Thank you for

1142
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: caring about tennis as much as we do. And we'll

1143
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: have to see you next week. We'll have a lot

1144
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 3: of Roland Garros excitement to discuss.

1145
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Yes, we will looking forward to it.

1146
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: The first week the French is always great and the

1147
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: second week is even better, so we look forward to it.

1148
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Speaker 1: The French Open coming up, or Rolling Garros and Emily Moresmo.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at you, We're looking at you scheduling all right. Everyone,

1150
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Thanks for joining us today,

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Speaker 1: Bye babe.