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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast O. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. It is the Monday edition of the program

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Speaker 1: breaking down everything that happened over the weekend and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot still to get into and we will throughout

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Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. The Ukraine situation appears to

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Speaker 1: be a massive advance underway, forcing much of the Russian

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Speaker 1: support out of the northeast. We will talk about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Primary day, believe it or not, one of the latest

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Speaker 1: primaries that exists anywhere. New Hampshire will be selecting several

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Speaker 1: different nominees. We'll talk with Caroline Levitt, who is running

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Speaker 1: in a congressional seat that is very much of a

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Speaker 1: Republican target. We have met her. She is formerly of

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Speaker 1: the Trump White House. We hung out with her some

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Speaker 1: in Park City with the Ted Cruise crew and so

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Speaker 1: we are excited to hang out with her a little bit,

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Speaker 1: introduce her to you the day before her primary. And

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Speaker 1: also we mentioned earlier, had an awesome time Thursday and

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Speaker 1: Friday in Austin. Thanks to all of our hosts down there.

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Speaker 1: We got to hang out watch Senator Cruz, disappointed, big

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Speaker 1: Texas Longhorn fan, big sports fan in general. We were

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Speaker 1: with him, our friend Bill Holmes put it together, the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of Texas, the lieutenant governor. We had a

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Speaker 1: good time. Got to hang out with the governor at

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Speaker 1: the governor's mansion and walk through that governor's mansion bucking

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Speaker 1: the docents I guess you would call them, the people

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Speaker 1: who they had on that in that Governor's mansion to

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Speaker 1: kind of show you around. One of them was a

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Speaker 1: big fan of the radio program, and she was standing

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Speaker 1: right in front of the iconic painting that many of

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Speaker 1: you have probably seen of Davy Crockett from inside of

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Speaker 1: the Alamo. And I've seen that painting my whole life.

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Speaker 1: It's hanging in the Governor's mansion. And we got her

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Speaker 1: to take a picture of us in front of the

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Speaker 1: the Alamo portrait that is hanging in the governor's mansion.

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Speaker 1: That was super cool to get to see, I mean

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Speaker 1: to get to see that in person. It was up

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm sure it'll be up on Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck dot com as well. So we had an awesome

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Speaker 1: time down in awesome. We appreciate everybody who came up

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, we're listeners, and it was fantastic to

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Speaker 1: meet so many of you from all over Texas and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Now it is officially, if it weren't before, Buck, it

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Speaker 1: is official, officially midterm season, and there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of races going on where they're gonna be right on

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Speaker 1: the razor's edge. Our friend Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: is going to be with us tomorrow, as he will

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Speaker 1: be on with us a lot. And look, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get as many of the people who are in tight

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Speaker 1: races on with us and try to help them out

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Speaker 1: to the best of our ability. Make sure that this

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Speaker 1: audience does everything that they can to help get many

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Speaker 1: of these people across the finish line. And I was

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Speaker 1: reading this morning. The New York Times has an early

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Speaker 1: morning distillation that they put out Buck, and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because this Morning's New York Times raises

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Speaker 1: a question that I was actually frankly surprised that The

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Speaker 1: New York Times would raise, and that is how reliable

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Speaker 1: are the polls in many of these in many of

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Speaker 1: these races right now, in particular, given how wrong they

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Speaker 1: listening to us in Wisconsin, Buck, I mean, there were

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Speaker 1: poles saying, hey, this is gonna be a twenty point

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Speaker 1: fifteen point race, not even gonna be close in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: And then Trump ends up losing by what was it,

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand votes according to the tally that they put

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Speaker 1: now that some of these are frankly not right. And

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Speaker 1: what's intriguing about this I'm looking at them right now.

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Speaker 1: It talks about all the different polls and the ones

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Speaker 1: that are worth paying attention to, in particular, I think Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: I think the Democrats are nervous because this story came

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Speaker 1: out this morning talking about, hey, are is the Senate

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Speaker 1: polling right? Because if somethings are wrong, we could be

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Speaker 1: seven or eight points off. So what's amazing if anyone's wondering,

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Speaker 1: I mean the overview, I'm looking at the data they

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen like pole error, what the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: surprise to anybody, the polls overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly show a favoritism

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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden in every case. Essentially, they always are

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Speaker 1: telling you that if Trump is ahead, he's actually ahead

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Speaker 1: by less than the final vote show. And if Trump

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Speaker 1: reminds me so much of It's just like how we

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Speaker 1: always say the things the media gets wrong. And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean that I disagree or you disagree, but the

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Speaker 1: things where they are just factually there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: special uplink to a Russian bank. Remember CNN ran that

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Speaker 1: story at Trump. Every time there's a massive blunder, fake

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Speaker 1: without exception. And what this is showing you is that

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Speaker 1: the polling data every time, now national level pollsters that

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Speaker 1: all the media is citing it always favors Biden. They're

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Speaker 1: always telling you Biden's doing better, Biden's doing better. This

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Speaker 1: is true of Democrats more generally, and people would say, well, Buck,

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Speaker 1: why don't they just say that Biden's are head by that?

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Speaker 1: You know, why even make it close a propaganda for

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Speaker 1: it to be effective has to be believable. If they

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Speaker 1: they were way off, people would ask questions, if you want,

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Speaker 1: let's say, let's just pick one race, Clay, if you

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Speaker 1: want to help Democrats in the race, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to say that herschel Walker is down ten points because

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Speaker 1: people will say, well, that's not credible or you don't

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Speaker 1: need to vote, like that's the worst case scenario. Right,

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Speaker 1: Oh well Warnocks got this, so I'm not even going

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Speaker 1: to vote. So what you want to do is say, oh,

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Speaker 1: no't worry. I mean Warnock probably gonna win. You want

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Speaker 1: to say he's up four points. You want to say

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Speaker 1: right because also Republicans then you know it's Republicans and

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Speaker 1: I don't really know does my vote really count. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to suppress and depress enthusiasm and turn out with

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Speaker 1: polling polling as part of the propaganda. That's my bottom line.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, and this is a great illustrative

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Speaker 1: point that I would encourage all of you out there

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Speaker 1: conversations if there was no bias involved in the way

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Speaker 1: the media covers Republicans and particularly Trump. And certainly this

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Speaker 1: There isn't a single one of those. And the reason

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Speaker 1: why is because propaganda. News media gets things wrong. I

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Speaker 1: got something wrong in my column that I wrote yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I got Georgia Southern and Georgia State mixed up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people are furious at me. How dare I get a

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Speaker 1: football analysis mix up Georgia Southern and Georgia State. But

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Speaker 1: that's an error, right, Like it's easy to kind of

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Speaker 1: If the media just made mistakes, which we all do,

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Speaker 1: it would go in both directions. It would go both

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Speaker 1: direct if the pollsters weren't biased, yes, if there wasn't

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Speaker 1: something else at work. This data, which even the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. But the data is out there, so anybody

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Speaker 1: can crunch these numbers. Yes, they got twenty sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: mean everyone remembers Hillary had the New York Times. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: ninety seven percent chance of winning the election. I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, ninety seven percent is a done deal basically

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Speaker 1: for an election. And obviously it didn't, you know, it

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Speaker 1: be a conspiracy theories. You can trust the polls. No,

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Speaker 1: you actually can't trust the polls. You can get an indication,

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Speaker 1: a general indication of what's close and what's not with polling,

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Speaker 1: but there's always a built in favoritism for Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the following criteria. But Clay, I also think the more

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Speaker 1: Kelly has basically said nothing for six years. I used

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Speaker 1: Biden doing a good job? Arizona Senator Mark Kelly is

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Speaker 1: asked why television is Joe Biden doing a good job?

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Speaker 1: not I don't know, that would be all systems failure.

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Speaker 1: you happy in your man? Like any are you happy

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Speaker 1: in your marriage? But if you got asked, hey, how

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. So, I

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Speaker 1: senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defensive Democracies. He's

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Speaker 1: Army veteran. All Right, I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people out there are not that plugged in with what

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Speaker 1: Ukraine definitely has staded for a lot of people. I

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Speaker 1: And what we saw happen in the last of say

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Speaker 1: an offensive in the south Rush in the curse On area.

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Speaker 1: This is near the port city of Odessa, a strategic

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Speaker 1: area for obviously for Ukraine because they can't use the

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Speaker 1: Black Sea sports right now, and it secruded for the

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Speaker 1: Russians for multiple reasons. The Russians redeployed forces from northern Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: largest cities in Ukraine. They redeployed forces to adjust, and

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians massed up in the north and they've taken

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Speaker 1: They see images of that. So the Russians are in

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Speaker 1: the back on their back foot up in the north.

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Speaker 1: The Russians have stalled the Ukrainians offensive in the south

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Speaker 1: and Curson. But yeah, things don't look good for the

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Speaker 1: Russians right now. I'll tell you, the Ukrainians are a

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Speaker 1: determined fighting force. They're well organized, and I think the

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Speaker 1: The Russians are just not adjusting well to occupying territory

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Speaker 1: in the Ukraine bill it's buck. There are these reports

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Speaker 1: that's been taken, of large numbers of Russian prisoners of

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Speaker 1: war being taken by the Ukrainians and a lot of Russians.

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Speaker 1: And again this is reporting, and there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, stuff that ends up getting reported that

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Speaker 1: But it seems that this aligns with what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: line that Russians can call to essentially arrange their surrender

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Speaker 1: to Ukrainian forces. What can you tell us about that,

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Speaker 1: because that starts to sound like morale among the Russian

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Speaker 1: forces is collapsing. Yeah. What happened up in the north

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Speaker 1: is that the Russians depleted the line. They have basically

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Speaker 1: a skeleton force in the Kharcav region. The Ukrainians launched

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Speaker 1: a quick counter offensive. They move through surrounded Russian forces.

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Speaker 1: It's unclear the number of prisoners. The Ukrainians tend to

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Speaker 1: overestimate this from what I've seen is war was the

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Speaker 1: That number may be larger. Um. We just have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see how that all settles out. I think

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Speaker 1: left the trip wire and they thought they could defend

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Speaker 1: that nature, that they could would be able to hit

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Speaker 1: a counter counterstrike against this counter offensive, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: work the way to Russians hope for certainly they a

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Speaker 1: number of troops have been captured. We just don't know

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Speaker 1: how many. I don't. I think that's more of a

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Speaker 1: man power issue than Rallishu, but that can have it

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Speaker 1: an effect going down the line if the Russians are

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Speaker 1: leaving their forces like this in other areas. I think

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Speaker 1: the reality is this is this is a result of

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Speaker 1: Putin not going on full military footing. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: fight in an economy of for its offensive against the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 1: and that's not working. Is not old Soviet doctrine, and

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Speaker 1: it's coming back to hurt by Putin right now he's

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Speaker 1: going to have to figure out how to readjust this

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Speaker 1: or are you going to be content with holding the

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Speaker 1: Russians could hope for now holding the Games in the

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Speaker 1: don Boss where they did have significant success over the summer,

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Speaker 1: and holding that purse on front as well. Certainly, winter

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Speaker 1: the field of battle. When does this winter arrive in

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Speaker 1: such significance that we kind of have a pause? Do

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Speaker 1: you anticipate that that would occur? And you mentioned Russia

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Speaker 1: having to make decisions? Is there any concern that, as

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Speaker 1: strategic nuclear weapons to attack here. Is that a concern?

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Speaker 1: It's always a concern. I don't think the likelihood is

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Speaker 1: low unless the Russian forces in Donbas are you know,

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Speaker 1: but I put the likelihood of that as to be

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Speaker 1: a major concern that if the Russian forces do collapse

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Speaker 1: uh in, particularly in the Donbas region, then then all

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Speaker 1: bets are off in what may bill Also, people are

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Speaker 1: starting to ask out loud what happens if Ukraine wins

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Speaker 1: um so I would want to know. One how much

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Speaker 1: of a possibility do you see that? As in the

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Speaker 1: Russians have effectively a full scale withdrawal from all the

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Speaker 1: would the Putin regime would Putin as leader stay would

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Speaker 1: a full scale Ukrainian victory in repelling this invasion. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I to answer the second question first, I think it's

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian victory. I think the likely what the likely outcome

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Speaker 1: is is this war probably will scale me particularly on

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Speaker 1: the don Bus front. Now, look, Russia's even though they

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Speaker 1: suffered this loss, they're going to have more forces now

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Speaker 1: in Curson, they will have more forces available to reinforce.

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Speaker 1: And to answer your question about the timing of this,

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Speaker 1: probably late November, early December, where things where it becomes

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Speaker 1: far more difficult through the Ukrainians to go on the

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Speaker 1: Putin has to be thinking about holding onto his games

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Speaker 1: right now. The Ukrainians they're feeling it right now. They're

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Speaker 1: confident that they can have battlefield success. What happens in

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Speaker 1: the car coffront is just as bad as what happened

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Speaker 1: in the Kievs fronts the Russian I think the Russian

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Speaker 1: try to find a way to still declare victory and

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Speaker 1: just in this thing. I think that it is possible

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Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, it's hard to predict how the

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Speaker 1: Asses and Karkev affects the Russian forces in the central

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Speaker 1: and southern portions of Ukraine. Outstanding stuff, Bill Rossio, Senior

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thanks for this update. Thanks. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show gets going right now. The

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Speaker 1: economy is going to be front and center in the

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Speaker 1: election and there are some worrying indicators about it. Inflation

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Speaker 1: numbers are going to be coming out later this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll certainly be diving into that with you, and let's

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Speaker 1: talk about how all this could affect him in terms

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But first, this is really an

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Speaker 1: interesting story and it's one that I think everybody, certainly

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Speaker 1: all the residents of the state of Pennsylvania should be

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Speaker 1: familiar with that. When John Fetterman, back in twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: was the mayor of Braddock, a suburb of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: he said that he heard what he thought was gunfire.

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Speaker 1: There was no gunfire. He saw a man running away.

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Speaker 1: The man was jogging, just going out for a jog.

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Speaker 1: The man was black. He had done nothing wrong. And

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Speaker 1: then the mayor of Braddock, John Fetterman, pulled a gun

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Speaker 1: on him. And according to this African American fellow who

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Speaker 1: had done nothing other than going jogging, and these are

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Speaker 1: all the facts of this are not a dispute. He

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Speaker 1: claims that Fetterman pointed a gun at him and held

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Speaker 1: him there, effectively doing a citizen's arrest. This is a

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Speaker 1: news report from back in twenty thirteen on this and

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Speaker 1: I heard approximately a dozen or more what clearly sounded

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Speaker 1: like assault rifle gun shots go off. Mayor John Fetterman

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Speaker 1: says he rushed his son inside, called nine to one one,

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Speaker 1: and took off in his truck after a masked man

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Speaker 1: in black he saw running, but Chris mairas the man

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Speaker 1: Fetterman confronted, turns out to be an innocent jogger who

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Speaker 1: police say had no weapon. There wasn't any assault rifle shots.

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Speaker 1: It was bottle rockets behind the library. Mayor Fetterman did

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Speaker 1: have a weapon, a twenty gage shotgun in the under

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Speaker 1: the back seat of my truck, which I pulled out

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Speaker 1: and I showed to just say, look, we're gonna wait

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Speaker 1: here and we're gonna get this all sorted out. When

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Speaker 1: the police arrived, the eros and the mayor tell very

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Speaker 1: different stories. He says, Fetterman followed me into North Braddock

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Speaker 1: and pulled a shotgun and aimed it at my chest.

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Speaker 1: Did you point the shot gun at him? No? I

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Speaker 1: did not. I pointed it, you know, away, so he

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Speaker 1: would see that I was armed, But I did not

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Speaker 1: point it at him. In fact, I didn't even have

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Speaker 1: a round chambered or the remove the safety at that point. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's so much. Here's this big deal? Yeah, first of all,

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Speaker 1: there are laws I'd have to check in Pennsylvania, but

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Speaker 1: against brandishing. You can't just pull out a gun and

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Speaker 1: point at somebody. Say hey, I heard something on a

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Speaker 1: like so I'm gonna hold you here, right, He didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not like this guy had a gun was

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Speaker 1: firing a guy. He just heard noises. Think about this.

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Speaker 1: He heard noises that were not even gunfire. Apparently this

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Speaker 1: guy does another difference. He heard bottle rockets going off,

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Speaker 1: found the nearest guy that he thought was suspicious, who

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Speaker 1: happened to be black, pointed a shotgun at him. Nothing.

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Speaker 1: There was no need for any of this. How is this?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine imagine a Republican take the nearest black

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Speaker 1: guy joh to point a gun at and effectively detain

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Speaker 1: him for no reason whatsoever. And this isn't a this

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Speaker 1: wasn't a bigger issue at the time, never mind now,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy to me. Yeah, look a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. He got in his car, his truck and

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Speaker 1: chased this random jogger down and held him under gunpoint

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Speaker 1: until authorities arrived. This sounds Buck like what happened down

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Speaker 1: in Georgia that turned into such a calamity, the murder

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Speaker 1: of talking about the murder of Ahmad Rbury. That's right.

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Speaker 1: That's basically what these guys did, is what Fetterman did,

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Speaker 1: except that situation turned violent because they shot the Ahmad

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Speaker 1: Rbury because they alleged that he resisted their citizens arrest.

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Speaker 1: But they also hopped in a truck, armed gunman chased

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Speaker 1: down this guy who claims that he was a jagger.

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Speaker 1: And this is essentially the same thing that Fetterman did,

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Speaker 1: except this guy didn't fight back to the extent that

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Speaker 1: you believe that he fought back at all. But this

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Speaker 1: was a major flashpoint all over Georgia. These guys are

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Speaker 1: in prison for life and John Fetterman, who is the Democrat.

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Speaker 1: But let's just break this down further, Buck, You're talking

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Speaker 1: about a guy who is a Bernie Sanders clone in

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Speaker 1: terms of the politics that he supports, who chased down

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Speaker 1: a black guy who just happened to be jogging in

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood because he thought he heard gunshots and immediately

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Speaker 1: assumed that the black guy was responsible for it, and

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Speaker 1: then also had a stroke and cannot talk effectively certainly

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Speaker 1: and is not recovered. John Fetterman is the worst nominee

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Speaker 1: for Senate in many of our lives. That is being

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Speaker 1: put forward as the favorite and the guy who is

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Speaker 1: going to theoretically replace the seat held by a sitting

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Speaker 1: Republican senator. Right now, it's doctor Oz against Fetterman, and

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Speaker 1: Fetterman is just imagine if this was a Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: who had done this. Now, I believe doctor Oz is

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Speaker 1: running ads pointing out this left wing Bernie Sanders clone

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Speaker 1: may also be racist, because that's just, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: a pretty racist thing to do. So also, we all

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Speaker 1: agree with yeah, Fetterman's story on this has changed a

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Speaker 1: number of times over the years. Of course, he claims

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Speaker 1: that he couldn't tell the guy was black. I would

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Speaker 1: be you know, of course, because he's trying to he's

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Speaker 1: trying to nullify any allegations of of a racial bias.

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Speaker 1: In essentially, I hear meaning fetterman, here's what sounds to

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Speaker 1: him like gunfire. So then he goes and drives after

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Speaker 1: and chases down and holds at I mean, this whole

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Speaker 1: thing about I just had a gun and I said,

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Speaker 1: we're just going to figure this out. You know, he

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Speaker 1: didn't top him on the shoulder and say, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: fellow citizen, can we wait here peacefully to figure out

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the help of law enforcement. You

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Speaker 1: believe also, there's no way he didn't point the gun

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Speaker 1: at of course, of course the gun at him. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to. I mean, the whole point of going

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Speaker 1: to get the firearm is being Look, if he had

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Speaker 1: seen a felony in progress and this guy was clearly

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Speaker 1: the guy, that's a different situation. Now he stepped in

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Speaker 1: a super aggressive thing to do to hop in your

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Speaker 1: car and chase him. Now, if he had seen like

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Speaker 1: a violent felony and he knew that the guy committed

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Speaker 1: a murder or something, that's different. He just heard gunfire,

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Speaker 1: according to his own story, and just hopped in a

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Speaker 1: car and pulled over at gunpoint. The guy running closest

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Speaker 1: to him. When you when you were doing something like this,

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Speaker 1: you know you are fully responsible and anybody who was

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Speaker 1: a concealed carry perman holder nos. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: such a part of of defensive handgun or any weapons

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Speaker 1: training you get. You know, I'm sorry, he doesn't cut it.

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Speaker 1: You know, if somebody runs out of a store and

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, I thought I thought that they were

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Speaker 1: the person holding up a store and you shoot the

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Speaker 1: wrong person, you're you're fully liable for this, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know you better be damn sure if you're going

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Speaker 1: to use lethal force that you know what you're doing. Now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: he didn't use any force here, so there's a obviously

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Speaker 1: that's a huge distinction and important distinction, but it does

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Speaker 1: go to the mindset here. He grabbed a gun, he

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Speaker 1: went after the wrong person, and Clay he said that

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Speaker 1: he thought it was a salt weapons fire. He said that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we heard the audio of that. This guy

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Speaker 1: didn't have I mean, he's out jogging. He clearly where's

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Speaker 1: he hiring this ar fifteen that Fetterman thinks that he heard?

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Speaker 1: Why did he think it was this guy? I think

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Speaker 1: that's the big question. I mean, if if you hear

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Speaker 1: gunfire and you see a guy with a gun, it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good indicator of Like, I think it's probably

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Speaker 1: this guy. He didn't believe that he ever had a gun,

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Speaker 1: so why it doesn't make any sense it judgment build

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Speaker 1: over this too right now? Running for Senate in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't this be something that you would think the media

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Speaker 1: would be like all over if he weren't a Democrat. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats Connor Lamb and the other I forgot the

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Speaker 1: other Democrat was running against Fennerman in the primary. They

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Speaker 1: made a big deal of this, and I think they

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Speaker 1: were right too. It's so interesting though media hasn't really

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time focused it on this one.

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Speaker 1: I think we all know why what a shockingly weak candidate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have this bizarre Bernie Sanders asking his policies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, he's not a law and

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Speaker 1: order guy. He's actually a open up the prisons and

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Speaker 1: defund police guy, or at least he has been in

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Speaker 1: the past, who pulls guns out on random people. This

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Speaker 1: case just happens to be a black guy, and everyone

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Speaker 1: thinks that he's going to be a good senator. For

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Speaker 1: what reason like, he didn't have a job in his

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Speaker 1: thirties and forties, buck his family paid for him to live.

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Speaker 1: He bought his house from his sister for a dollar.

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Speaker 1: He just had a stroke and is lucky to be alive.

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Speaker 1: He's a Bernie Sanders supporter, and he may be a

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Speaker 1: racist pursuer of a random black jogger. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I say he is the worst nominee for a major

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Speaker 1: political party in a Senate race in frankly the twenty

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Speaker 1: first century, not just this this cycle. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: just also on pure intellectual horsepower and health reasons, Oz

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Speaker 1: is just a clearly better choice than Fetterman. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just he's he's healthy, you know, his intellectual faculties are

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Speaker 1: all functioning properly right now. And he's a smart guy

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Speaker 1: who's you know, been very very successful, even beyond being

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Speaker 1: a you know, an MD and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: Federman wears slumpy sweatshirts and looks like a WWE character,

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Speaker 1: and people think that means that he's like a working

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Speaker 1: class guy. That's well why I think the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is condescending. Honestly, no doubt I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think it's totally condescending. But if you're, let's say, a

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Speaker 1: black guy in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the urban centers of Pennsylvania, why in the world are

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Speaker 1: you going to be motivated to go revote for John

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Speaker 1: Fetterman to be your next senator. The dude who chased

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Speaker 1: down a black dude and pulled the gun on him

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Speaker 1: because he thought he looks suspicious after he misheard what

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Speaker 1: he believed we heard from the guy, wop Swan said

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Speaker 1: that he pointed the gun at my chest. I believe him. Then. Two,

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Speaker 1: he's upset, and rightly so. I mean, imagine, for everybody

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Speaker 1: out there, you are literally jogging minding here, and remember this,

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Speaker 1: there's no dispute. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong. He

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Speaker 1: was just a jogger. Everyone agrees just jogging. You're a jogger,

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Speaker 1: and some random loon chases you down and points a

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Speaker 1: shotgun at your chest and says you're gonna stay here

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Speaker 1: till the authorities arrive. I would be very pissed off

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Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, and I'm curious where that guy is

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Speaker 1: now if he's talking to the media, because that story

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Speaker 1: goes to the essence of who John Fetterman is. He

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Speaker 1: tries to claim that he's a hood Are you wearing

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders clone? Maybe he is, But when he thought

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Speaker 1: that there was danger, he immediately expected a black guy

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Speaker 1: did it and pointed a gun. And even the argument

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Speaker 1: like he shouldn't getting grilled on this. So you had

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Speaker 1: a gun in your arms, he claims you were pointing

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Speaker 1: it at him. Where were you actually pointing it? If

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Speaker 1: you weren't pointing it at it, what would be the

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Speaker 1: point of having the gun if you weren't threatening, like

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Speaker 1: you might shoot him? And think about it. This is

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Speaker 1: like saying, if you're an interrogation, shot him. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you're an interrogation, I didn't point the gun on him.

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Speaker 1: I just put the loaded handgun on the table in

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Speaker 1: front of the front of the suspect, you know, just

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Speaker 1: to let him know, Yeah, that's a threat, like we

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