WEBVTT - The Longest Overdue Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effect Network Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.

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<v Speaker 2>Dreamers and chasers.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your co host aj Holiday? What's up? Big Tam Bam, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I love y'all so much. Keep your chin up today,

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<v Speaker 2>chins high, be optimistic. All good things are.

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<v Speaker 1>Good energy period, chin always high.

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<v Speaker 2>That was your weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't do nothing this weekend, Like for real, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to go to this Harlem nice party

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<v Speaker 1>with my significant other and I just didn't he went through.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the ship was in the fucking country and already

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<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna be fucking country. That's why I ain't gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the country. I love country shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, man, I know country shit. Gonna have some good food.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they would have something for me to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, I just it wasn't up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been needing to know things. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to do something, you need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about it a month in advance, then two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>in advance, then a week in advance, like I really

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<v Speaker 1>have to mentally program myself. That's too much. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mentally there, if I haven't seen myself there in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I'm not going. I ain't coming again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I ain't coming again. So I ain't do shit

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, child, And.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, just preparing for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what I'm doing. I'm walking in my boot.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally that ship was off. No, girl, was that

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<v Speaker 1>not two weeks ago? You said you had two more weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>Just over two weeks ago that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to not walk on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I'm walking. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that stepdaddy, both that nigga foot broke and his

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<v Speaker 1>knee right now for falling down.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn mm hmm. That's wild and I hate that. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. It's dumb. I've been in this ship. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't had to shoot on the right foot since August.

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<v Speaker 1>Your foot little?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it skinny?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a little, the whole leg little.

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<v Speaker 1>You would walking outside on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, not like walking like long distances, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just walk instead of being on the scooter, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>walking to the car.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be able to take it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I go back to the doctor next Thursday and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do new X rays to see is it

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<v Speaker 2>healing right and what the next steps are. Literally, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that shit been off about three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs, it's been nearly three months, except well two months

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<v Speaker 2>September and October, the whole September, the whole October into November,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's been eight weeks. It's it feels like longer

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<v Speaker 2>than that, but it's only been eight weeks. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was supposed to, you know, been walking on it

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<v Speaker 2>at six but it wasn't healing.

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<v Speaker 1>So so is it healing better? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>When we do these X rays, put your ass in

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<v Speaker 2>the cast, they like, that's what they say. If it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't heal. And when they have like really walking on

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<v Speaker 2>it without the boot, if it gives me pain, then

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to put a screw in it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that that does not happen. So y'all keep

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<v Speaker 2>me prayed up. But I'm going to Paris on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, I can walk Thursday, I'm leaving. I'm walking

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<v Speaker 2>to a plane, y'all walking over the plate, bitch, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to a vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm literally going. I'm gonna leave on Friday. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming home on Sunday. I know I'm going with a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a girl's crib, you know, gay, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't that gay. I'm only when I'm like kind of drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>And That's been a long time since I've even been

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that means something to me. I'm going, like, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl? Go to hell? Let's get into scene.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you watch Maggie Stallion documentary because.

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<v Speaker 2>You can? Yeah, I really, And it's pretty much a

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<v Speaker 2>redemption story. It goes from her, you know, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>her beginning, how hard it was losing her mother. We

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<v Speaker 2>really get to dive into that relationship and what that

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<v Speaker 2>looked like for her and how sad that was that

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<v Speaker 2>we dive into that, and then she goes into the

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<v Speaker 2>Gail King conversation that I think we've all seen go by.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the clip I side, yeah, where.

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<v Speaker 2>She basically admits to being dishonest about her sex life

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<v Speaker 2>with Tori, and she was like, I ain't know the

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<v Speaker 2>bitch was going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask me that.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally called Gail a bitch because she is a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch for asking that. Like, Okay, you can't conflate the two, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're here to talk about this man assaulting me and

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at me. Yeah, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there is a butt. The butt is you have

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<v Speaker 2>to assume that this interviewer, Gail King, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask the dynamics of the relationship with you and the shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you assume that they're not gonna ask that.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that negate him shooting at her? No, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>not whether she had sex with him or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not negate anything. But she shouldn't have lied.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it shouldn't have shouldn't have should

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<v Speaker 1>not have been asked.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do this interview, this was a This wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just about being shot. This was about the relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>this person. This was an interview about the whole happenings.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised I would have been prepared for that question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think her people told Gail not to ask that shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gail asked it anyway, because to send her in

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<v Speaker 1>a line of fire like that and her not be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared because she was clearly like, yeah, she was taking

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<v Speaker 1>it sexually like she was not expecting her to ask that,

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<v Speaker 1>and neither would I really, noah, because it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So now what's happening now? Because Meg Stallion lied about

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<v Speaker 1>fucking her, which we all knew it was a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew that was the reason why her and her

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<v Speaker 1>friend was beefing. We knew the nigga was a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So rather she told Gail that or not, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, right. But now what the public gets to

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<v Speaker 1>do is say, see none of the bubble. She's a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why it's okay for her to get shot at.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not okay, but she should have been honest. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna come on that interview, you can't tell half truth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>tell the truth. This is what happened, This is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and this is and he deserved to be

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<v Speaker 2>in jail because of this. She don't have to catch

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<v Speaker 2>me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Two drunk nights. People I thot that they like twice

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<v Speaker 1>and each time he was catching me drunk. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think she did have a drinking problem. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>she contributed to some of the things that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>To her that night. Absolutely mm hm shit everybody most

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<v Speaker 2>of us allow wing shit pop off. There was some

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<v Speaker 2>intoxication involved, in drugs involved. He wasn't in our clearest mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely No. I done called a body dronk before you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying body, I ain't really was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to catch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I ain't never catch and want drunk. I

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<v Speaker 1>caught a body that I had done had before, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got no business fucking on and I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>it because I'm drunk. But I never just caught a

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<v Speaker 1>stray body because I've been drinking, not.

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<v Speaker 2>A stray body because I would you think she considered

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<v Speaker 2>him a stray body. No, she knew him. That was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It just kind of happened stray body.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like first time dick drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't never had first time dick drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>No, never, It's intentional. If I fuck on a nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like I fucked him because I was drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, okay, I'm about to say, damn you

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<v Speaker 2>get all your big sober.

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<v Speaker 1>It's boring and we talk about that. Absolutely, not like

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<v Speaker 1>well back in the day before I started like experimenting

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<v Speaker 1>with the weed, Like, yeah, I probably had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sober sex, but it's intentional. If I if I

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<v Speaker 1>fuck on a nigga rarether I'm drunk or not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be I'm not. It's never gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>blaming on an alcohol type situation, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But it would be like I've I call this body

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<v Speaker 2>earlier than I intended, dude, because.

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<v Speaker 1>It might as well keep sucking you go together. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can see why she should have told

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<v Speaker 1>the truth truth. I just I hate now the public opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>It extends even further right right now because people think

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<v Speaker 1>they got an AHA on her.

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<v Speaker 2>She put the doc.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a lie if you eventually tell it.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, still, Ali, we know you lying though, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's what made it worse because everybody was like.

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<v Speaker 1>All the men were like that, mm hmm. But I

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<v Speaker 1>rather or not she fucked this man or not. He

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<v Speaker 1>had no business shooting at her. And then the next

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, oh, she you know, people are saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he shot her. He didn't shoot her, right, but he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely shot at her and caused her harm m.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Period. They showed the fragments in her foot on the

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<v Speaker 2>documentary and then she goes on to you know, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about her relationship with the homegirl and how that dissolved.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if between me and you, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if she took as much as accountability as

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked it. You know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because it takes my grandma said, it takes two links

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<v Speaker 2>of the chain for the chain of rattle, one link

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<v Speaker 2>care rattle by itself, So you know, you gotta own

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<v Speaker 2>your ship too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna watch it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just feel like it's something that didn't need a documentary for.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched you because.

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<v Speaker 1>Not you, the mic bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired last night. Yes, I was get into that

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<v Speaker 2>watching the election, but I only watched that documentary because

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable doubt the season ended, so I ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody but on that reasonable doubt shit, boy, every bitch

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<v Speaker 1>I know has been watching that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad because season one didn't get that much

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<v Speaker 2>love as it should have. But now it's like everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>like popping. Yeah, happy to hear that. So what else happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of being tired, did you stay up for the

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<v Speaker 2>election last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I was at a watch party. So I attended

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<v Speaker 1>a watch party last night. Senator Dionne Ted Teddor you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about. He he's I think he

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<v Speaker 1>lives in Columbia. Actually he's in Charleston, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>a watch party last night. I actually went to two

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<v Speaker 1>different places for watch parties. We ended there though, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where more than more professional people would have been, and

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<v Speaker 1>we came in there with Jordan's on and ship. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the election, and yeah, I like the results.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of people are upset about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, to me, right, I would not

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<v Speaker 1>have I'm seeing a lot of people online like crying

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that if Kamala had one, if Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>had won the presidency, right, I would not girl by

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<v Speaker 1>it's a curse. I would not be sad this morning

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<v Speaker 1>because regardless of what my life is going as still,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna be optimistic and move forward like no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who the president is. And that's what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see black people do, right, I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>black people get out of the victim mentality a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and just realize that we are responsible for our lineage,

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<v Speaker 1>We are responsible for our futures. Nobody else, nobody else is,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who the president is. One thing, one takeaway,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll let you go. I do not like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the divisiveness that's happening online between black men and women,

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<v Speaker 1>because most black men voted for Kamala. So for for

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<v Speaker 1>different I unfollowed the one last blog I was following.

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<v Speaker 1>I unfollowed them this morning because they were putting up

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<v Speaker 1>like tweets and nasty videos that black women were putting

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<v Speaker 1>up talking to black men about having not voted for Kamala,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not true. Seventy nine percent of black

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<v Speaker 1>men voted for her. So where y'all getting this number?

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<v Speaker 1>From y'all now allowing whoever whatever, social era engineering, big

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<v Speaker 1>machine divide us even more, and it's just fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the part I don't like about this election.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I'm not happy with the result, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the American public has spoken and this is who they

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<v Speaker 2>saw fit to be our next president. I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you're angry about it, what you need to do one

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<v Speaker 2>is pick your chin up. You know that is first

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost. We are descendants of the people who have

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<v Speaker 2>survived Jim Crow, slavery, the Middle Passage, what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll survive this. You know. We are resilient people

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<v Speaker 2>and we are the dream of our ancestors. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is just part for the course. As far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think if you're upset, then what you should

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<v Speaker 2>do is get more involved in your low as littlement

0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.720
<v Speaker 2>get more involved in the classrooms, get more involved in

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<v Speaker 2>your church, get more involved in state houses, local houses,

0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.800
<v Speaker 2>your municipalities, all the things. That is what needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be done, you know, So moving forward, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>all you can do.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You cast your vote. You know, everybody's entitled to their

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<v Speaker 2>vote or to not vote. That is also their right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So people getting attacked for not participating in the system.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's their right too. So you know, chin up,

0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Chin up, buttercup. That's all I can say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think collectively, also black people, we need to refocus.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and my homegirl, we have been doing this thing

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<v Speaker 1>every day, refocused, refocused, right, we need to refocus and

0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:02.040
<v Speaker 1>decide what is most important among us, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we focus on a lot of bullshit we don't

0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.960
<v Speaker 1>focus on education enough, we don't focus on financial literacy enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Them even being able to use entertainers to appease to

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<v Speaker 1>us in a selection, to me is like a slap

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. We have a lot of intellectuals amongst

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<v Speaker 1>the Black community. Why not engage those people? Right? But

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<v Speaker 1>I think black they know we love to be entertained.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to laugh, we love to play, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what happened when you just love the laugh and play.

0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.040
<v Speaker 2>But I think they tried to reach out to everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>all the voters, because there are voters who just want

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<v Speaker 2>to be entertained. You know, there were one the intellectuals.

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<v Speaker 2>There were platforms and forums for that too. You just

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<v Speaker 2>had to go look for those. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 2>to bear a witness to those. And if you were

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ones who were looking for Glorilla to

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<v Speaker 2>give you god, it's she was there, you know. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it just was all one thing. I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my hat goes off to Kamala. She had

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<v Speaker 2>hundred days to campaign and she still was able to

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<v Speaker 2>get close to half of the Yeah, a lot of marketing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she did exceptional. I wish that we had picked a

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<v Speaker 2>democratic candidate a long time ago, instead of waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden to drop out with one hundred days left. Absolutely,

0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you know that was the mistake that was made if

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<v Speaker 2>we had a clear cut candidate that we all could

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<v Speaker 2>get behind, because that was the failure as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned with Democrats in this election, But I agree also, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Also want to also just try not to pick sides.

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<v Speaker 1>For real. You gotta be able to see what the

0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.720
<v Speaker 1>fuck is going on on both sides of things, right

0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.440
<v Speaker 1>when you when you pick sides, you neglect to see

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<v Speaker 1>the side you think you on. You neglect to see

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is that they're doing, and a vice versa. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So try to stay in the middle so you can

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<v Speaker 1>see all points of view because there I'm not a Republican,

0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.680
<v Speaker 1>nor am I a Democrat, nor am I an Independent

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<v Speaker 1>or Green Party or none of that shit I'm going

0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to do would make sense for me, right, so if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a Democratic candidate who would because you know,

0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, this is the other thing I'm seeing,

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like people are saying like, oh, she's a woman. This

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is why they're blaming black men for Kamala not getting

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<v Speaker 1>into office. And they're also saying like they didn't want

0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.439
<v Speaker 1>to vote vote for it because she's a woman. That

0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is not the case. I feel like if Michelle Obama

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<v Speaker 1>would have ran for president, half most of the country

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<v Speaker 1>plus the world and who else want to be involved

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.879
<v Speaker 1>in US politics would be behind Michelle Obama. So it

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with her being a woman. Absolutely not.

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.879
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like just the it's just weird. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, get involved, I plan to get involved.

0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. I'm more motivated to get involved than

0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I've ever been before after this election, And I hope

0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.960
<v Speaker 2>this election encourages us all to be more involved in

0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.760
<v Speaker 2>our local our local government, you know, Okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What matters most, That's what matters most. So I I mean,

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I know in this particular election, abortion was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest things. Right it's now on a state level.

0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 1>If you don't agree with your state's abortion liized, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to make sure you get to the polls when

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the local elections come up, because it's in the state's hands,

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>which I think personally that's where it belongs, right, So

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you can still do the things. You just have to

0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.639
<v Speaker 1>be informed on what it is that's actually going on,

0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>especially on a local level.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I really feel like, now this might be

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<v Speaker 2>hear me out, y'all, we really have the power if

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:43.199
<v Speaker 2>we collectively stop fucking, we could demand whatever we shyraq

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the man, whatever we wanted, if we could all collectively

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 2>decided we're about to in humanity, because that's what essentially

0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:56.440
<v Speaker 2>would happened. If we stop having sex, we could end humanity, right.

0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a group of people who may be

0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to do that, and it has nothing to do

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with if there's already an attack on women, right, So

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's already an attack like to end humanity,

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and people may not see it because there's an attack

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.879
<v Speaker 1>on women from all sides, right, from all sides. So

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, you can't mention abortion and the black maternal

0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>mortality rate and the same sentence. It just doesn't make

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sense to me, because one we're talking about wanting to

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.560
<v Speaker 1>keep life right, and there's this mechanism and these evil

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.120
<v Speaker 1>people in place fucking with it right, right, And then

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.479
<v Speaker 1>the other one is a supposed choice, right, you're choosing

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>life or you're choosing death. I think everybody should try

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to choose life. Black women period, we under attack, yes,

0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.080
<v Speaker 1>from all sides. We just we just are.

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.919
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I agree, and that's why the odds were

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.360
<v Speaker 2>stacked Kyli against Kamla, and that's why I just think

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.719
<v Speaker 2>she did an excellent job with what she had. You know,

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, one hundred days in your black woman, Black

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.919
<v Speaker 2>Indian woman, you know, it's stacked against you.

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.679
<v Speaker 1>But okay, we're going to leave race out of it, okay,

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of there's a lot of things

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:18.200
<v Speaker 1>out there that beg to differ, right, and then now

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that's also like that's a thing that they've been using

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to push the divisiveness. Right, what is black? I think

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>black people need to establish what it is to be

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>black now in America?

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:29.959
<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we do need and we should keep a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, I think, and you know, and that's important

0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the conversation we're going to have a little earlier, I

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 2>mean later in the episode, because I think we need

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:47.919
<v Speaker 2>to be freedmen. Let's let's define blackness. Let's define what

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 2>black is in this country for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's enough on the election, y'all, y'all listen, I

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>don't got some real life hate mail, okay, And I

0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>really be holding back. I feel like on we talked

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.199
<v Speaker 1>back and I've had to block a few people, but

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I definitely screenshot your fucking name in your face so

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly who you are because I have to

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>smack your ass in real fucking life. So there's that part.

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, y'all, fuck is home. Bit ch'all told y'all, niggas,

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I told y'all, niggas.

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 2>You said that I was definitely about to sigga.

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.399
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy having a ride a scientist and gets some dick.

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I know, I was thinking about her, like I know

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>her pussy door.

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.199
<v Speaker 1>People hating that girl for not going to work. What

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go work on this dick? Okay, y'all

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>will be marr.

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 2>And I just I think that that trial was interesting

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.879
<v Speaker 2>because Woody was the reason they got jammed up and.

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>When he got out, that boy, shit, man, he's the

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 1>worst and he's like man, I told all type of Liyes,

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that makes the little truth with the with a lie.

0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked about twenty fifteen a long time ago.

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 2>He don't seem like the brightest crown in the box,

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 2>so can we more than that from him? Yeah? He

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 2>said the demons had a hold of him.

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And a.

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Lot of people have demons. You know, they're battling demons.

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I pray for everyone.

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what young Thugs now is supposed

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to do with the rest of his career for real, now,

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know rap about nothing.

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Butterfly in that's high.

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>You gonna go ahead, keep going.

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't go twice. Its highly.

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Read their ray hole.

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gonna have to talk about.

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>He better can start being like Kendrick Lamar. Okay, you

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>your music gonna have to have substance.

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 2>This is well it should it should should.

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 1>You need to hold people at higher standard. I think,

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about in another episode, like that Drove rap,

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>shit is dead. These people are coming coming for them.

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think about it. It's just the sound.

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just so terrible. Like there's a rapper from here,

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>a little Dicky. I'm a fan of his music. He dope,

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 2>but the song that like, we got to listen to

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the things that we're promoting. Like it's like so casually

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about killing each other is crazy, Like.

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole curse. It's a spelling. You're just saying it.

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>You're just saying it every day while you're working out,

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>walking like you just quoting the words, like just saying like,

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, you gotta have some self awareness and realize,

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's not just words, it's not Your.

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Tongue is a wand it's a powerful wand and what

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 2>you speak is it can be a curse or bless us.

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Be mindful of that.

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm I'm happy that. And I'm not going

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to say young Thug is just like the super innocent dude,

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because I heard he was indeed the boogeyman, Okay, but

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the way in which they rail rolled him the last

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>two years was really disgusting. I did see Fanny Willis

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was reelected as state prosecutor in Georgia, but I just

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man. I feel like we talk about

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>luncheon and hanging and all this stuff when it comes

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to black people, but it's a lot of black faces

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>doing it now. White people no longer have to do

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>it because they have now put these frontmen into place

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>who look like us, but they ain't us a lot

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of the times. And I'm not saying like she shouldn't

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>clean the streets up, but I feel like they were

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to take that nigga house. They want his assets.

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>That's more of what it was about money. It was

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>more about money than actually cleaning the streets.

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the only thing. I want, a safe place

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>for our children to grow up in. You know, I

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 2>want the music. I just hope there's a paradigm shift

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<v Speaker 2>before we have kids that are grown where the consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>is just so different that the music.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's enough elevation, it's coming. New Earth is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>on the way. I feel it. I feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and women, we gotta have the baby to have

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<v Speaker 1>a future.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or stop having babies until we get our demands met. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not even about the babies. Stop fucking yeah, stop having

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<v Speaker 2>sex period. I'm telling if we collectively stop having sex

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<v Speaker 2>and said no more, our reproductive rights are under attack.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't have sex. I can't have sex at a

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<v Speaker 2>time like this. If all of us said that, we

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<v Speaker 2>could demand watch Iraq, that's what that movie was about. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We could demand whatever we want. We could demand a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of these niggas like Bookie. Now, okay, they ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even studying.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have to if we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're already doing it. Okay, we just front men for

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>some of them. A beard for some of these dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you how the world would be in

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>up or if all the pussy closed down. Talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the stock market crash, the pussy crash.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>You remember the pussy crash the four That was a

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<v Speaker 1>wild time. I mean, there was no pussy to be found.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough. It would be a history stupid yo.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, y'all, But listen, today we have I'm calling

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>him congressman. Okay, even though he was not elected, I

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>did vote for him. Okay, mis Marcel Dixon. We have him,

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and we talked that. We talked back this week. We're

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 1>talking uh, reparations because that is one thing we did

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<v Speaker 1>not see on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we deserve and that's what we're old.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned, y'all. This is a really good conversation. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So y'all, today we have a truly inspiring guests

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. He's known for his fierce advocacy and unwavering

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>commitment to justice. He's a dedicated educator, activist. He's South

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Carolina native South Cakilaki stand up. He's a passionate voice

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>for a perative justice and economic empowerment within black communities.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>He's fears fearlessly champion causes that matter with a focus

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<v Speaker 1>on uplifting and inspiring change. His insight and authenticity resonate

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>within with with people across the nation. So welcome to

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the show, Congressman Dixon, because we be manifesting and we

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<v Speaker 1>talk back.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, welcome, thank you all for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing this evening? What part of South Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>are you from.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from a town called Ridgeland, which is down by

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<v Speaker 4>Charleston and Savannah, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm Charleston.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, Okay, yeah, I'm from Ridgeland. Then, so right

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 4>by you Ford, South Carolina, Bluffton, South Carolina, and Savannah, Georgia,

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 4>right on the border of Chatham County, Georgia. Yes, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a prison there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I do know.

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<v Speaker 4>About, infamous prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hit originally hard too.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well, rwers get hard by a lot of

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 4>catastrophes like flooding when the tropical Storm Debbie, Hurricane Heleen.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 4>We always get a lot of bad flooding. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a very small town that's not far from Savannah, Georgia. Youford,

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, se y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to have mister Dixon on and talk about

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>reparations because this is something that's very important for most

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>black people. It should be anyway, right, because we need

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>our coins. Okay, this is the longest overdue bill in history,

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and this country has been built on the backs of

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>black people, and we've literally been saying four hundred years

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>for the last worn years. So when we don't get

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>our gust too. So I came across, not even came across,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen you on I'm on Twitter Ax a lot,

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>so I've seen a lot of your spaces on Twitter.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And then one of my one of my good friends,

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>he sends me your content a lot, and I'm like,

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the last video you had out went viral in regards

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to reparations. So I wanted to have you on a

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little brief chat about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, can I ask a question before we get directly

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<v Speaker 2>into reparations. You seem like a fairly young black man.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>You could have gone and played sports or done a

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of different things. What made you choose politics?

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<v Speaker 4>Not not really that young any longer, but and I

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 4>gotta suck at sports, but thank you, I didn't really

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>choose politics. I feel that it trols me. I was

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 4>very unhappy and I still am with a lot of

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 4>the candidates that we have running for office nationwide, and

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are you know, you look at Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>Congress has like an approval rating of thirteen percent. And

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 4>in my district for the US House of Representatives, James

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<v Speaker 4>Clyburn is my representative. And you know, I found out

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 4>that South Carolina District six, which is still a majority

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>black district, it's the sixth poorest district in the United

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 4>States of America out of four hundred and thirty five

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>districts total, and yet it's almost the poorest place. It's

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 4>almost the poorest place to live, and yet Congressman Clyburn

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 4>has been there for thirty two years. So I was

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>very unhappy with the representation we were receiving. And when

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 4>I confronted him then I asked about reparation and things

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>of that nature. I didn't really like his response, and

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 4>I kept saying to myself, if we as Americans or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever background, we're so unhappy with the people we have

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 4>in office, why are we not trying to run for

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 4>office ourselves and replace those people we have? In office.

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<v Speaker 4>Very few people step up to do that, and I

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 4>decided I didn't want to be like the average person.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm going to run for office. I couldn't

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 4>find a better option, so I say, well, I'll be

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 4>the beat option anger in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we all need to get involved, for sure, because

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of people politics is like a

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>big thing. People talk about it, but a lot of

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>people don't get involved. They just sit in the background,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes with the opinion and yeah, so you know that's

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>something I'm interested in the future too. Maybe I can

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>back you up, we can collaborate and.

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<v Speaker 2>Do something nice, and I'll vote for you because I

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 2>will not participate.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't be on the front lines now, but I'll

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>be in the back, like you know some low yeah

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>fighting people in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Background, putting yourself out there. Trust me, it's unnerving. I

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of thought a lot about the ramifications of the

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 4>decision I was going to make. You know, your life

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 4>will be out there, your face will be out there.

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 4>My volunteers, they've sent out on maybe twenty thousand flyers

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 4>this election. I ran last year, last election season, I'm

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 4>running this time. So just this election season alone, prosing

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 4>out twenty thousand flyers. It's probably been like sixty thousand

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:19.719
<v Speaker 4>text messages. I've been on commercials, I've done interviews. Obviously

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 4>it's a little unnerving when you know your face and

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 4>your name is out there people are looking at it.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>But I really had to consider those things, and my

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 4>attitude is there's no way I can lose. See when

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 4>I started off, I had zero supporters. It was really

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 4>just me. I woke up one day. I'm a school teacher,

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 4>never ran for politics, never voted before, never really got

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 4>involved in politics. Like you said, I had an opinion.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 4>I had a strong opinion about a lot of things,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 4>but I was never really a political never really wanted

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 4>to be. So I went from one extreme not being

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 4>involved at all to the other extreme being completely involved.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 4>But even if I don't quote unquote when the election,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 4>what I'm proud of is that I've helped educate people

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 4>about the things about wish. I'm passionate why I feel

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 4>the way I do, and why I feel that my

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 4>stance on issues is the stance that we should have,

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<v Speaker 4>and reparations is one of those premier issues. It is

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<v Speaker 4>the premire issue of my campaign. Like you mentioned, justice,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 4>my slogan is justice for all or justice for none.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't have it both ways. We can't do reparations

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<v Speaker 4>for all these other groups that we have done it for,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're doing it for now, but we're not doing

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<v Speaker 4>it for the group that has really been through the most,

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<v Speaker 4>and that are those who are freemen or the Black

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 4>Americans who are descendence of the emancipated.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into that a little bit about freedman.

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<v Speaker 1>So educate our listeners a bit about because this is

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the type of history I like to get into the

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>history of self for listeners who don't know exactly what

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>freedmen are? Can you can you let us.

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<v Speaker 2>Know before you answer. I just want to see this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got all sixty thousand of your text messages.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they are really Yeah, away from him, listen,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I'd be responding back to them text messages because I'm

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna say you on myself on Bill in a minute.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people do respond. Some people just troll and they

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 4>say thing. You know, you can tell they're just trolling.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 4>But people do respond and interstic responses.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had to say that free men.

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Freeman is pretty much a political status, a status or

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 4>it's like a class. For example, if you are a veteran,

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 4>that's a status. That's a special class you belong to.

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>From the perspective of the federal government, if you're a

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 4>disabled person, that's a status like they have the Department

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 4>of Veterans Affairs. They have specific programs set aside with

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 4>people are disabled. We all the best example are Native

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 4>American tribes. You know, we have the muskoge or the Creek.

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 4>We have the Seminoles, they have the k Alcohols, they

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 4>have the Cherokees, we have the Catawa. Those tribal names

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 4>are really statuses, and Native Americans get special programs that

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 4>are just for them based on their status there. They

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 4>don't get just one large program for all of them.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 4>It depends on their status. For example, not Old get this,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 4>the Cherokee get this, the Seminole get this. So if

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 4>you are a black person in America who is a

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:27.280
<v Speaker 4>descendant of a person who was emancipated from American slavery,

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 4>you have a special status called Freeman. And they passed

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 4>legislation for us in eighteen sixty five, the Freeman Bureau Acts.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 4>They did one and then they did two, and it's

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 4>set up an office called the Freemen's Bureau. I'm sure

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 4>if we do our research, a lot of us have ancestors.

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 4>We will file the Freeman's Bureau. I have found countless

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.959
<v Speaker 4>relatives who receive services from the Freemen's Bureau. In order

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 4>to receive services from the Freeman's Bureau, which was an

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 4>agency of the government, you had to be a freeman.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 4>You had to have that status. Now, of course they

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 4>did away with the Freeman's Bureau, but the Freeman's status

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 4>was never rescinded, so we still have that status now,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 4>it's just not one we've been using. People think reparations

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 4>is erasing, it's not. There's no such thing in America

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>that would be constitutional as reparations for black people. Because

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 4>maybe if this was back in eighteen hundreds, all the

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 4>black people in America were black Americans, were people who

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 4>were either formerly enslaved or had just been emancipated at

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 4>the end of the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so you don't subscribe to the notion that black

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>people already existed in America and that potentially the people

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>who were already here were then enslaved as well. Because

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>even with Freedman, a lot of people, because I mean,

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>for my studies. I know that slavery was predominantly in

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the South, right, So Twelve Years of Slave is a

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>perfect movie, right. I don't know if y'all ever seen it.

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 2>There was a plage there.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>He was a free black man with family, white friends

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and all of that, and lived up north. He was

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>tricked into slavery and ended up in the South for

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>twelve years until a white guy came on the plantation

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and he told this guy his story, and then he

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>went back up north and told his white friends and

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>they came down and got him right. So he was

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>tricked into slavery after slavery basically was supposed to have

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>supposedly had ended in the South. So do you not

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the notion that, you know, everybody may not

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>be descended of slaves. And maybe that's why they always

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>say reparations has to be studied.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, well, I do believe that black people have

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 4>always been here in this land mass. You know, when

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I was in school, they used to teachers that black

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 4>people were everywhere, and even though I never thought much

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 4>about it, it kind of hit me one day, a like,

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 4>so we were everywhere. That would include North America as well.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 4>But the cool thing about the freeman's status. It doesn't

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 4>matter if you are a descendant of a person who

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 4>was a ready indigenous to the land, or you are

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 4>the son of a person who came over on these

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 4>slave ships as a result of the Transatlantic slave from

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 4>the coast of Africa, whether it's the West coast or

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Central Africa. What matters is that if you were here before,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 4>well at the end of the Civil War, automatically you

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 4>are a freedman because when that ended, you were old

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 4>a debt because you went through American slavery, you then

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 4>went through or the danger of being enslave. So yeah,

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 4>it really doesn't matter if your ancestors a person who's

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 4>indigenous or your ancestors a person who came from the

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 4>continent of Africa. More than likely, I think most freedomen

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 4>we have a mixture of both. We'll probably have native

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 4>blood and we probably have blood of people who came

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 4>over on the slave ships. But what is the most

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 4>important thing is that your ancestor was in this nation

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the Civil War, because it was

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 4>then where America should have paid us for all the

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 4>labor we did in building this nation and defitting this

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 4>nation and they did not. Instead, not only did they

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 4>not hate us, they actually continue to terrorize us. They

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 4>did black holes, which would become Jim Crow and their

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 4>cobs racial massacre. They used imminent domain to take our land,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 4>and when that didn't work, they were burned down our

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 4>black wall streets, or they will flood them, or they

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 4>will put railroads through them or highways through them. They

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 4>did medical experimentations on us. I mentioned my great grandfather

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 4>in the video that went viral, how he was a

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 4>World War two vet. He just died like last month,

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 4>and yet he never received his portion of the GI Bill.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 4>The GI Bill was a bill that was given to

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 4>World War Two vets that helped them to become homeowners,

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 4>helped them become college educated professionals. They receive pensions. It's

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 4>pretty much credited with building the modern day American middle class.

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Only I think. I think at the most six thousand

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 4>and black American World War two vets receive benefits of

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 4>the GI Bill out of like millions of US that

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 4>actually fought, whereas fifteen million white American World War two

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>vets receive the giveils. That means they were able to

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 4>acquire wealth that they passed down to their loved ones.

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I've always said if people can inherit wealth, people can

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 4>also inherit the debt. People who are against reparations, I

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 4>say to them, Okay, so if you've inherited anything from

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 4>your parent, whether it's homes, whether there's whatever kind of asset, stocks, bars, property, cars,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 4>maybe even a bit of position of business, you need

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 4>to give all that up. Okay, Because you're saying that

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 4>I do not have an inheritance for which I should receive.

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 4>That means you should not have it either. So it's

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 4>not just the fact that we did not get our

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 4>debt paid immediately at the end of the Civil War.

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Is that this nation continued to terrorize us. And when

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I hear, especially some white people I speak with, they'll say, well,

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm a poor white person. So it's not that i've

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 4>here in white privilege. It's not about it's not saying

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 4>that white people don't have issues. It's not saying that

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 4>any other group doesn't have issues. It's not even saying

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 4>that America hasn't done other groups wrong. But I'm not

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 4>focusing on these other groups right now. Once we have

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 4>to focus on ourselves and the question to ask if

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 4>you have problems in your life. Is it a result

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 4>of the American government depriving you of your constitutional rights?

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.479
<v Speaker 4>The only group that can actually say yesterday are those

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 4>of us who are freemen, because all these other groups

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Native Americans, Japanese who are interned, the downwinders, for those

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 4>who know who the downwinders are, those are people who

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 4>are exposed to radiation as a result of America testing

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 4>nuclear arms, and they received They have physical elements, and

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 4>their kids and grandchildren have physical elements, so they are

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 4>still getting paid today. The Guamenians, the Iranian hostages, even today,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 4>you know Simone Bows, the Olympic gold medalists, even she's

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 4>about to get reparations. Some other young ladies because they

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 4>were sexually abused and the FBI failed to investigate the

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 4>accusations of sexual abuse that they made, so they're about

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>to get paid reparations. All of the groups get paid

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>compensation for the wrong that the federal government, not any Pherson,

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.760
<v Speaker 4>but the federal government is done to them except us.

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 4>So we can actually look at our dada and say

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 4>we are old. We have yet to be paid. You've

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 4>done it for others, now you owe it to us too.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think the federal government is keeping freemen

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 2>from reparations.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, for one, this government has a long history more

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 4>than any the group going after us more than any

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 4>other group. So it's just something that's embedded in this nation.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 4>You know how they like to say that slavery was

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 4>this country's original sin. Well, the issue of slavery was

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 4>always built on the concept of us being inferior of

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 4>the fact that you know, slavery was beneficial for us. Remember,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>they even tried to do that way, it was beneficial,

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, with Jim Crow. They will tell us that

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't that bad or that was a long time ago,

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 4>even though Jim Crow and those of us, because I

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 4>think y'all are in South Carolina as well. Okay, in

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, Jim Crow did not end into the nineteen

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 4>seventy My mother and father, like I said, told me

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 4>in the seventies, Jim Crow was still going strong. Even

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 4>after the federal government structed down, states like South Carolina

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 4>still fought and were slow to do away with Jim

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Crow completely. Some people, let's take the Holocaust survivors, White

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 4>Jews went through the Holocaust. They're still getting paid right now,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and we get told never forget the.

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>America is paying them, ready to do with it.

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 4>And yet America has done many programs. And I'm not

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 4>saying these people do not deserve justice. They do. I

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>feel if you are wrong by the federal government, any government,

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 4>you deserve compensation. I can say that only when it

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 4>comes to us. Can people not say that? But the

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 4>Holocaust lasted for about a decade, okay, and yet we're

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 4>told never forget. You cannot say a single bad thing

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 4>about white Jewish people who went through the Holocaust. You

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 4>cannot deny the Holocaust. You will immediately be called an

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 4>awful person. You know, there are Holocaust deniers. The point is, though,

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 4>look at what they went through and how they're getting

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 4>compensation for their tragedy. Okay, And yet we went through

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 4>centuries of governmental oppression, okay, centuries That was like a

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Holocaust that lasted three hundred years. So this country is

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 4>built in the foundation that somehow our issues were a

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 4>long time ago it has been resolved. Just because you

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 4>stopped terrorizing someone on paper, that doesn't mean you made

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 4>up for the damage that was done to them as

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 4>a result of your terrorism. But another thing is we

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 4>haven't demanded it. I'm not trying to blame the victims.

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm not, but we really have not demanded it. We

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 4>have all these black faces in Congress, and let's look

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 4>at some of the things they're fighting for. Whether you

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.720
<v Speaker 4>agree with abortion or not, I believe that we should

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 4>be pushing to help strengthen black families. That means, you know,

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 4>married couples having children. They push on us abortion that

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 4>seems to be the only thing they feel we deserve. Abortion.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Let's say, well, I don't know how you may feel

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 4>about immigrations, but the point is most countries don't allow

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 4>people to fly in through the nation illegally, and if

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 4>you fly in through the nation I legally, they show

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 4>us Hell's not going to reward you for doing so.

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 4>In America, that's happening. You have people like James Clapburn

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.919
<v Speaker 4>who sees the freedmen in his district, people whose fanis

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 4>have been in this country for centuries. We are struggling.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 4>We are among the poorest group in America. That's just

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 4>irrefutable fact. And yet he's seeing that he wants these

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 4>illegal immigrants to have a pathway to citizenship. They didn't wrong,

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 4>and you want to reward them. We have wrong done

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 4>to us, and you refuse to speak up for what

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 4>is old to us. So some of our representatives, the

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 4>white ones, yes, but especially the ones who are our own,

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be our own people, they do not stand

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 4>up for us, and we reward them by still voting

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 4>for them to be in office because we think that

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 4>this is routine. It's very routine, especial Unfortunately with us.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.959
<v Speaker 4>We're the only group of America that votes for one

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 4>party all the time, no questions asked. It's starting to

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 4>change a little now. The Black Americans still buy and

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 4>large we're gonna if we vote, because a lot of

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 4>us don't. But if we vote, it's gonna automatically be

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 4>for the Democratic Party, and we do that without demanding

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 4>anything from them, specifically for us. So it's a combination

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 4>of this country's historic neglect of us, which this nation

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 4>is accustomed to doing. Two, we have not held our

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 4>representatives accountable for standing up for us. You have people

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 4>in this country illegally who have the auDA to demand things.

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 4>They go in the streets and they protests. They shouldn't

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 4>even be there. But look how bold they are to

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 4>demand things from a country in which they do not belong.

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Yet we don't do that same thing. We don't demand

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 4>things that'll offer to us. And when our representatives don't

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 4>stand up for us, we don't make them pay by

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 4>not electing them, by refusing to vote for them, and

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 4>running people against them.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So do you think immigration is being strategically done? Because

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this isn't the first time. I think

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about talk about Native Americans and stuff

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 1>like that, and we talk about exactly who those people are,

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>because I identify as Native American. I'm an American, Okay,

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't like black. I don't like the black

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:47.280
<v Speaker 1>African American. You know, you're tying yourself to another place.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>So this is our land, right, So I think that

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this has happened before. This isn't This isn't a new play.

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And I think that black people may not believe that

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>immigration is our issue. It is an issue of us.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 4>It's a big issue for us. Death. It's happened before.

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Frederick Douglas Booker, T. Washington, WB du bois. These are

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 4>civil rights icons of the past who knew that immigration

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 4>was being done to target us. It was a way

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 4>to try to replace us. During that time, it was

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>white immigrants coming from Ireland and Italy. You know what's funny,

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 4>We sometimes helped these groups when they came over here,

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 4>and those groups turned against group, and they turned against

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 4>Some of the worst race riots in the American history

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 4>were done by Italian and Irish immigrants. Now we have

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 4>people coming here from all over, but a lot of

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 4>from Latin America and Asia, but nowadays increasingly from the

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 4>African continent. Of course, we have people coming from the Caribbean.

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.479
<v Speaker 4>We sometimes have this attitude where we want to show

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 4>solidarity with all these other groups. They don't reciprocate and

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 4>do that for us. In California, for example, I'll give

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 4>you two examples. A lot of black freemen have left California.

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 4>They're moving to Texas, they're moving to up to other

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 4>places in the South. So now you have these Mexican

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 4>gangs who are targeting black families and running them out.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes these families are freemen. Sometimes these are other black

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.760
<v Speaker 4>people from Latin America, from Spanish Speakan countries. They're targeting

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 4>them and trying to run them out. In California, the

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 4>largest civil lawsuit in California's history were fouled by Black

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Americans by freedmen who were being harassed on their jobs

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 4>by Hispanics. But they were being harassed by Hispanics on

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 4>their jobs, being called the inn wards, having bananas put

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 4>in their locker rooms. A number three California. Again the

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 4>group of Mexican American representatives. Y'all probably remember. This happened

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 4>like two years ago. They were in a back room,

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 4>it was recorded.

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 4>I remember, just like some white Southerners in the Jim

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Crow South about how they wanted to deprive a Hispanic woman. Yep,

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 4>it was a Hispanic woman. Two men. They want to

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 4>deprived the black voters of their political power. One guy said,

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 4>f that guy, or one lady, F that guy. He's

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 4>with the blacks. So these but we think these are friends.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Though we think these are friends, and then.

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You know he's allies.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:27.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we can't speak for a whole group of people, right.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 4>No, you can't.

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But my thing is this the ones in position of power.

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Exactly if you don't like me on the street, I

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 4>don't care. You have individuals who make decisions, and that's

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 4>their individual decision. But you can look at how people

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 4>move as a group. As a group, we as freedmen,

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 4>whether you know we have African ancestry or Native American ancestry.

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 4>We tend to stand up for other people when we fight.

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 4>We tend to always try to think about other people.

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 4>And that may be a good quality we have, but

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>it's problematic because these other groups don't do it for us.

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 4>Point out one group, one group, ethnic group, or as

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 4>a political group that when they stand up, they fight

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.720
<v Speaker 4>for us. Point out one group that's going hard for reparation.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Not right now, but in history. So this is why

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I had such a problem with the they eating the

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>cats and eating the dogs. And I mean we we

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 1>say things about another group that your cat might end

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>up missing, right, not necessarily hations, but I know for

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a fact Haitians fought alongside us during the Galla Geech

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You Wars and things like that. So those are those

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>are our people as far as I'm concerned the Caribbean Islands,

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really talking about across across, but at least

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the islands, at least I believe that we are usually

0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>on the same page for the most part, Black Americans

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and Caribbeans.

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 4>We well, here's what I will say. I will say

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.720
<v Speaker 4>that we have allies from some of these different groups.

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 4>You have the same. We have individuals who are not

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 4>for us, who have individuals who have been for us.

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 4>The Galla geech, you wars and the connection. I'm not

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 4>familiar with that, but that's something I can always look

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 4>up because I do love history. But what I can

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 4>say is when groups come here one thing. Other groups

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 4>have the position, they have the ability to do that.

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 4>We for some reason, have laws, they have the ability

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 4>to advocate for themselves. You can google right now Haitian

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 4>American organizations. You will find hundreds of them. Now if

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.240
<v Speaker 4>you just google black organization. This is why sometimes saying

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 4>black is a problem. You will find organizations that were

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 4>started for us, but we include everyone, and that's a problem.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 4>If these other groups can do things specifically for them.

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 4>We need to get to the point where, hey, this

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.879
<v Speaker 4>is not hate, but this is specifically fuss And I'm

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 4>not apologizing for it being specifically fussed. And that's why

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.439
<v Speaker 4>I've been embraced encouraging us to use the term freedman. Yes,

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 4>that still doesn't mean our race is not black. Yes,

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 4>but black is not gonna get us anywhere legally, because

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 4>the moment we try to do legislation for black people

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna get shot down. You could not do legislation

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 4>based on race in America, it will be a violation

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 4>of the thirteenth Commitment. However, you can do legislation based

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 4>on status. That's why they have policies and programs for immigrants,

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.359
<v Speaker 4>because that is a status. That's why they have policies

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 4>and programs for people who may have mental illness. That's

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 4>a status. That's why when the Intern Japanese who received

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 4>reparations in the nineteen eighties, they did it for them,

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 4>not because they were Japanese, but because they were the

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 4>status or the class of Japanese people who are formally

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 4>in turn. I mean, I speak about that real quick.

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:40.959
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people like to say, well, the reason

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 4>they haven't done reparations for freedom is because the people

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 4>who went through the wrong are dead. They've been dead

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 4>for a long time, and we are their children, great grandchildren,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 4>great great children. But that's a lie because when they

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 4>did reparations for the Intern Japanese that happened in the

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.439
<v Speaker 4>nineteen forties where they were thrown into concentration War two,

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 4>right World War two, reparation for them did not happened

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 4>into the nineteen eighties. Nineteen eighty eight, and they didn't

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:13.959
<v Speaker 4>start paying them until nineteen ninety two or something like that.

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 4>A lot of them had died by then. Do you

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 4>know what happened with the money that was old to them?

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 4>It went to their children, remember I mentioned it.

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 2>More. Furthermore, the trauma and the debt was passed down exactly.

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 4>We inherit the trauma and the debt. The downwinders, the

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 4>people who are poisoned by nuclear radiation, they're collecting checks

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 4>right now. Their children gets it, their grandchildren gets it because,

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 4>as you said to them, they have found that they

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:46.280
<v Speaker 4>have inherited physical defects, physical elements of the radiation poisoning. Well,

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 4>if they can inherit harm from things that were done

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 4>to them, so had we from things that have been

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 4>done to us for three hundred years.

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the ability not to unify and galvanized like that.

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>They literally have us that divided because of slavery.

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think we unite pretty well, but we don't.

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 4>We can do it better. We can unite better, and

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we unite around the right things. For example,

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I go back to this, how we automatically vote for

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 4>the Democrats. I don't think we should automatically vote for anybody.

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't care. It was the Republicans. We used to

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 4>be mainly Republicans, and then we left the Republican Party

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 4>because we felt they were not doing right by us.

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 4>And now we're doing with the Democrats what we used

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 4>to do with the Republicans. We'll automatically voting for them.

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Even though it started to decline, and I think that's

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 4>a good thing. We are starting to say you don't

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 4>deserve my vote if you want it to earn it.

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 4>I think we unite pretty well because when you look

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 4>at how freeminting the vote, a lot of us don't.

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes like fifty over fifty six percent of us will

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 4>not vote at all. But when we vote, it will

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 4>usually go to the Democrats. That's us uniting, but for

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 4>the wrong reason. Now we can unite like that and

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:00.719
<v Speaker 4>vote for people who are going to look out for

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 4>us and fight for us. We can do pretty well.

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:06.479
<v Speaker 4>And you know, we would not have survived this nation

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:10.399
<v Speaker 4>if we were not unified. Think about it, this nation.

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 4>After slavery ended, they tried to wipe us out. They

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 4>felt there was no need for us any longer. And

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 4>yet in spite of them constantly terrorizing us. In spite

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 4>of them doing all the horrific, inhumane things they did

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 4>to us, we were able to build not one, not two,

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 4>not three, not four, not five, but multiple Black wall streets.

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 4>Even though they were destroyed, we built them. We were

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 4>able to start organizations like the Black Panthers that are

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:41.359
<v Speaker 4>now iconic worldwide. So I think we have united in

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 4>spite of the facts that they do maneuver to keep

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 4>us divided. Like one thing they try to do that

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't like. They try to do this whole gender

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.919
<v Speaker 4>divide all the black man versus the black women.

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's real prevalent right now, you don't feel that

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>way about never mind, it's real prevalent exactly.

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.439
<v Speaker 4>And I don't play those games. I feel that we

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 4>need to unite over common interests. If y'all were two

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:07.479
<v Speaker 4>white ladies, I can care less if y'all were down

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 4>for me getting reparations, and y'all felt that because I've

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 4>talked to white people, white Southerners, y'all know, white South Carolinians.

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 4>Some of them are, you know, the ones that we

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 4>have especially down and not right, the good old boys.

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 4>But I've spoken to some of them who were vehemently

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 4>against reparations. But once I sat down and I showed

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:31.959
<v Speaker 4>them that one America has done it multiple times again, Interi, Japanese,

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:37.360
<v Speaker 4>many many, many Native American tribes, the Waymnians, the Iranian Hostages,

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 4>the down Winders. When I sit down and break it

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.440
<v Speaker 4>down for them like that, I said, now tell me

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 4>why have they not done it for the freemen? And

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 4>some of them say, well, because all the ones who

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 4>went to the wrong right dead. I'll say, no, they've

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 4>done it for the descendants of other groups. Why have

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 4>they done it? Fuss?

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a situation where you have to

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>correct your status? Because I think about US census, right,

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the options on there. They just took Negro off in

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 1>early two thousand or two thousand, right, but leg Negro

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was stolen in the US centenus. But now it's black

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>African American freedman isn't on there no right? So where

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>would how would somebody correct their their legal status in America?

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Because we talk about sovereign citizenship, would we need to

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>correct our status to be freedman in order to you know,

0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>try to organize a bit to get reparations because we're

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>not a.

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Nation so freedman is not a racial ethnic identify, but

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 4>we can make one. We can say, like I've pushed

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 4>for a term called American freedman, because freeman, whether they

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.479
<v Speaker 4>have them cences or not, we're still freemen. They still

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 4>can't take that from us. If the Freeman's Bureau, if

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 4>they were to break back the Freeman's Bureau right now,

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 4>which is something I've spoken with of our FK Junior,

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 4>the one that's running was running for office, but he

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 4>since dropped out. I've spoken with people from Donald Trump's

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 4>team about that they can bring back the Freeman's Bureau

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 4>right now. And if they were to do that, those

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 4>of us who are freemen, we will qualify for programs.

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 4>So the freeman's status exists, whether they put on the

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 4>census or not. However, you do make a good point.

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 4>We do feel that's an issue, like they need to

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 4>have a way to delineate us from other black groups,

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 4>like you'll see on there they may have Haitian, you know,

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 4>they are black Puerto Ricans. There's black Brazilions, black Panamanians.

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 4>We need to have something that says that, hey, we

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 4>are the descendants of those who are emancipated for American slavery.

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 4>We absolutely do need that. And the other thing I

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 4>want to get back to how I speak with white

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 4>South Carolinians when they realize that America spends trillions of

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 4>dollars all the time, a lot of it on foreign nations,

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 4>taking care of the legal immigrants on the Pentagon, the

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 4>military budget, bailing out corporations. And when I tell them,

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 4>look at some of these immigrants, legal and ilegal, they

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 4>send billions of dollars out the country to other nations,

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:07.440
<v Speaker 4>their homelands. Freemen, we are Americans. This is our country.

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 4>This is our country here, this is our home land.

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.000
<v Speaker 4>We're native to the United States of America. When we

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.360
<v Speaker 4>get money, it goes right back into this economy here.

1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 4>A lot of them will say, you know what, I

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 4>can't argue gainst anything you have said, so a big

1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 4>like what we're doing right now, A lot of things

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:27.360
<v Speaker 4>that need to be done on educational and guess what

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 4>we need to do with our people. We need to

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 4>have a massive educational initiative because I do think a

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of our people agree reparations. And I do think

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.680
<v Speaker 4>our allies, like our brothers and sisters, who are true

1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 4>brothers and sisters, because you may have fam members you

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 4>don't mess with. I have fam members, I don't mess with.

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, blood is not really thicker than water. Actually,

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I have FAMI members. I don't mess with. I don't claim.

1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 4>But to our family out there, who may be from

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Latin America, the Caribbean, the African Continent, Europe, even other

1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.160
<v Speaker 4>parts of the world, to the other black groups out

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 4>there who are truly our brothers and sisters, they will

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:05.560
<v Speaker 4>support it as well. But I've had people who are

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:09.280
<v Speaker 4>aging white people, people who are Native American who have

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:13.880
<v Speaker 4>now since supported reparations or they don't argue against it anymore,

1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 4>and they were strongly against it when they first heard it.

1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Because the same way we have misunderstandings about reparations. You

1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:24.479
<v Speaker 4>can imagine like a white person probably watches like Bright

1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 4>bart or Fox News all day. Even so, there's a

1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 4>lot of educational work that has to be done.

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. So let's say the federal

1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 2>government decided to give Freeman reparations, what would we ask for?

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:42.760
<v Speaker 2>What would that look like?

1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:45.760
<v Speaker 4>In your opinion, so it would be direct cash trayments.

1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 4>That's the main thing that a lot of people say.

1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Every money. A lot of people like to say, well,

1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:58.640
<v Speaker 4>it should be free education. It should be That's.

1:01:58.440 --> 1:02:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Why I lean towards because we don't have the financial

1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:01.560
<v Speaker 1>literacy yet.

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was about to say. We give them

1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the money, and then I got a truck full of

1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:10.120
<v Speaker 2>new ports. Baby.

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Let's say I get my reparations and I spent all

1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 4>on new clothes. It's my money. Maybe you won't like it,

1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:19.200
<v Speaker 4>but it's my money. Because let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 4>didn't happen. When they gave the Holocaust survivors who still

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<v Speaker 4>get their checks today, no one sits down with them

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<v Speaker 4>and says, tell me how you're going to spend this.

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<v Speaker 4>They just get it and they spend it. When the

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<v Speaker 4>intern Japanese got their money, no one sat down with

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<v Speaker 4>them and say, well, how are you going to spend this?

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<v Speaker 4>They just spent it. When the Native Americans get their

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<v Speaker 4>tribal budgets, and some of them get money directly from

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<v Speaker 4>their tribal governments, no one asks them how they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to spend it.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them immigrants right now getting them big checks,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying I condone that, but even if a

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<v Speaker 4>black person freeman gets their money and they spend all

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<v Speaker 4>the new ports or Hannessy or whatever technical stuff. And

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<v Speaker 4>our people say, that's their parents, that's their money. Because

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<v Speaker 4>you know what happens. I've seen white millionaires who have

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<v Speaker 4>died and they've left millions of dollars to their poodle. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you can reclick. Lady left millions of dollars to her poodle. Okay. People,

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<v Speaker 4>you know who's the worst people with money? People who

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<v Speaker 4>have money already when the economy of America crashes. We

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<v Speaker 4>don't run these airlines, we don't run these banks, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't run these major housing firms. And yet look, every

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<v Speaker 4>time the economy crashes is usually because those large corporations

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<v Speaker 4>have misappropriated and misspit money. It's not black people doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are usually white Americans who come from families that

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<v Speaker 4>have good money. So if anyone is terrible with money,

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<v Speaker 4>it's usually people who have a lot of it. The

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<v Speaker 4>people who have been best with money have usually been

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<v Speaker 4>freemen who have had the least amount of it for

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<v Speaker 4>a old the most. And here's proof to that, y'all

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<v Speaker 4>can go right now, Black Americans, freemen, we are the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest savers with the most rug with our money. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying we should have to be in order to

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<v Speaker 4>get our reparations. Even if we were bad with money,

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<v Speaker 4>we're still old. But the data shows we save more

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<v Speaker 4>than almost any other group. And you know another thing

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<v Speaker 4>I love about us, We are the most charitable. This

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<v Speaker 4>is proof Black Americans are the most philanthropic. Of all

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<v Speaker 4>groups we give, we have the least and yet yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>at the air studies show we give the most of

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<v Speaker 4>our money to help other people. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I love about us.

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<v Speaker 1>Church. Church.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, study excluded the church, and I thought that too.

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<v Speaker 4>I was most of that is the church. But one

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<v Speaker 4>study actually excluded tithing tithes, and it actually so even

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<v Speaker 4>outside of that, we still give the most. But I

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<v Speaker 4>also want to say it should be money. But if

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<v Speaker 4>people say, well what about land, what about free education,

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<v Speaker 4>what about tax price, give me all that too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it should be it. Give me all of that money,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's going to be in shortance.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us back all the black wall streets as we

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<v Speaker 2>do all that.

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<v Speaker 4>My plan calls for a direct cash famous in the

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<v Speaker 4>amount of two point eight million dollars per recipient. It

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<v Speaker 4>calls for bringing back the Freeman's buo. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>I'm conservative in the sense that I like small government.

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<v Speaker 4>So if we had our own small government that could

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<v Speaker 4>respond to our needs. Like Native Americans have their tribal

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<v Speaker 4>governments that are for their particular tribe. We are almost

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<v Speaker 4>like a tribe. We are a special class in America.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to have our own quote unquote tribal government.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to bring back the Freeman's Borough, which

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<v Speaker 4>will be staffed by US, and the people who are

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<v Speaker 4>in that part of that agency, who are running it,

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<v Speaker 4>they will be held accountable by us. My plan calls

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<v Speaker 4>for bringing having Freemen's Banks, Freeman Hospitals, Freeman Post Office,

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<v Speaker 4>Freemen's schools. Like listening to Clydburger, which forth we should

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<v Speaker 4>have Gulagichi schools all throughout the low country. That's something

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<v Speaker 4>that Kyle Wernk is easy to make the Galla Gichi

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<v Speaker 4>or put forth legislation. It may not pass, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know what you fight for, what you really want. Even

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<v Speaker 4>if those five times, I'm gonna try five more times,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna keep trying five digital times. We'll have our

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<v Speaker 4>own Freeman schools. I call for us to have. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a Black Wall Street program in mind where I

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<v Speaker 4>would like to incentivize us to move back to the South,

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<v Speaker 4>because the South is for those of us who are

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<v Speaker 4>freemen in America. The South is really like our cultural homeland.

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<v Speaker 4>And we will get back to farming because we need

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to feed ourselves. That's not the only thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Like look at Ridgeland, look at you know, yah,

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<v Speaker 4>I see a porky Taligo. A lot of the small

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<v Speaker 4>towns right in South Carolina. We can make these small towns,

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<v Speaker 4>we can shake them in our vision. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>us leave them and go to places like Atlanta, Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 4>We can take these small towns and make them into

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<v Speaker 4>our vision, make them into the black wall streets. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what our ancestors did. If they can do it in

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<v Speaker 4>the eighteen hundreds, we sure can do it now in

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty twenties. I also want to say, on the point,

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<v Speaker 4>on the point of money, we start more new businesses

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<v Speaker 4>than any other group. When those stimulants checks came out,

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<v Speaker 4>re first of all, was a very small amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And not many black people tapped into it. Is like

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<v Speaker 1>like people like to say, we did not get it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got no. We received the least amount of the

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<v Speaker 4>stimulus money. However, those of us who did, and there's cost,

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<v Speaker 4>there's plenty of studies into us. We started more new

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<v Speaker 4>businesses than any other racial ethnic group. So we are

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<v Speaker 4>still our ancestors' children. We have just forgotten and to

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<v Speaker 4>some extent, fighting for something that answers has fought for.

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<v Speaker 4>Our ancestors knew that this mass immigration was not good

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<v Speaker 4>for them. They knew it, and that's why they fought

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<v Speaker 4>against it. That's why Coreta Scott came. You know, people

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<v Speaker 4>have don mansw King drip of coredit. Scott came is

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<v Speaker 4>an icon her own right. She was against mass immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>She wrote a letter to Congress saying that it would

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<v Speaker 4>bring down the quality of life for Americans, especially black Americans,

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<v Speaker 4>said would bring down their wages. Barbara Jordan of Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>she was against mass immigration. Our ancestors knew, and these

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<v Speaker 4>aren't answers, these are just our parents, our grandparents. They knew,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is the eighties and nineties, that mass immigration

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<v Speaker 4>was not good for us. Our ancestors knew that we

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<v Speaker 4>had to be self interested. We can help out these

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<v Speaker 4>other groups if we choose to. But if they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>helping us, hell with them. But first and foremost, we

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<v Speaker 4>had to help ourselves. We have to get back to

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<v Speaker 4>remembering those things. We cannot be tricked into this whole.

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<v Speaker 4>We are all one because we're not. These other groups

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<v Speaker 4>are not saying that. We're the only ones saying that

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<v Speaker 4>here we are to the bottom half the least. It

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<v Speaker 4>ain't no one checking for us once they get theirs right.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about FBA in their rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 4>I use that term. I use that term quite often.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty much a social term for pretty much saying

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<v Speaker 4>that you are a descendant of the people who aren't slaved.

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<v Speaker 4>It's some of the people who built America. So I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with that and pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to interject, but can you define.

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<v Speaker 1>What were the letters foundational foundational Black American?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yes, to subscribe to that. It's pretty much what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying now is just a social term. Freeman is

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<v Speaker 4>a legal term that's legally recognized. We don't use it

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. We're getting back to it. You know what's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>South Carolina is the state that had the first Freeman's

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<v Speaker 4>Bureau outside of d C. South Carolina is also the

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<v Speaker 4>state that had the first Freeman's mak Right there in Beuford,

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<v Speaker 4>not far from me. But foundational Black America is pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much the same. Philosophy is just the social term, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a legal term. And what we're saying is

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<v Speaker 4>we have to delineate we are not as much as I.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I have friends from all over. As much

1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:05.680
<v Speaker 4>as I may like Casians or Jamaicans or whatever, or

1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Trinidadians or Beijians or Ethiopians or Nigeria's or the NaNs

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, Puerto Ricans or Cubans, they're not me.

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<v Speaker 4>You may be black from those countries, but you're not

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<v Speaker 4>black like me. We are different. I am a freeman.

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<v Speaker 4>You are not. I am old a particular debt payment

1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:27.000
<v Speaker 4>from this nation. You are not. If that bothers anyone,

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<v Speaker 4>then that means you are a problem. Because why I

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<v Speaker 4>would never go to Cuba and say that Spain owes

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<v Speaker 4>me something, because of what they've historically done to Cubans.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go to Rwanda right now, Rwanda, the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic public of Congo. They're saying to Belgium, Belgium, you

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<v Speaker 4>owe us. I will be extremely out of place if

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<v Speaker 4>I went to Rwanda and Democratic public of Congo and

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<v Speaker 4>start saying how dare y'all. Y'all are divisive? Belgium owes

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<v Speaker 4>me too. No, I don't. I'm not a Rwanda. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a citizen democratic public of Congo. Even though I

1:11:00.240 --> 1:11:02.840
<v Speaker 4>moved there and I physically look like some of the people,

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<v Speaker 4>I still don't have the same claim that they have. Namibia,

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<v Speaker 4>another African nation, Germany, they're pushing for reparations. They're like

1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:14.400
<v Speaker 4>nine tribes in Namibia. Two tribes are pushing for reparations

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<v Speaker 4>from Germany. Germany paid it to the government. Now the

1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:19.759
<v Speaker 4>tribe is finding the government saying that money belongs to us.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's calling those tribes divisive because they didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>about the seven other tribes. No, because they acknowledged this

1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:31.559
<v Speaker 4>tribe went through something in particular and they have a

1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:35.960
<v Speaker 4>special debt that's old to them. So what foundations Black

1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Americans are saying unapologetically is that we are the people

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<v Speaker 4>who were crucial in building this nation. We are old

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<v Speaker 4>by this nation, and we are not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>forced team and just having a generic black identity, what

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<v Speaker 4>is black? You know that we're not all black the same.

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<v Speaker 4>We used to get offended when white people would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just one Nigro, all Nippos. All you see one Nipper,

1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:04.360
<v Speaker 4>you've seen them all. Imagine that's offensive. Imagine going to

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<v Speaker 4>a Chinese person saying you're no different from a Korean person.

1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:08.960
<v Speaker 4>You're no different from a Chinese person. You're the different

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<v Speaker 4>a Filipino. They will be offended. So a why do

1:12:11.360 --> 1:12:13.720
<v Speaker 4>people think it's okay to go to a freeman, a

1:12:13.760 --> 1:12:16.000
<v Speaker 4>black American and say, oh, you're no different from a Haitian.

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<v Speaker 4>You're no different from a Colombian. You're no different from

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<v Speaker 4>a Jamaican. You're no different from a Cameronian Cameroonian. That

1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:28.240
<v Speaker 4>is offensive. We are not all the same. That doesn't

1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:30.960
<v Speaker 4>mean we hate each other. But I'm not apologizing for

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledging that we are a unique group, what a unique history.

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<v Speaker 2>Period and basically, you beat our ass, give us our cash.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as the Haitians go, because I talk with Haitian,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll say, oh, well, the Haitian revolutions set it all all.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to correct that that's not true. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the Gola Geeche wars. I'm glad you mentioned that. Aging

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<v Speaker 4>we had free settlements here in America before the Haitian Revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>We had the settlements in Florida before h revolution happened.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why people from South Carolina were running, were escaped,

1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:07.840
<v Speaker 4>went down to Spanish control Florida, and we set up

1:13:07.960 --> 1:13:11.000
<v Speaker 4>free settlements there. That caused people from South Carolina and

1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.439
<v Speaker 4>Georgia to start feeding down the Florida and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>led to the yama See or the Gladichi wars. So

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<v Speaker 4>we are a group that's always stood up and fought

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<v Speaker 4>for what's old to us, and we've always realized this

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<v Speaker 4>is a special debt old to us. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>financial Black Americans saying that this is our nation. We

1:13:28.760 --> 1:13:31.160
<v Speaker 4>built it, and we have a special claim that's old

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<v Speaker 4>to us, and we love our our allies. What you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do is come here and then you

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<v Speaker 4>can dictate to us how we are to operate. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to happen period. Right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one little question. You don't think it would

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<v Speaker 1>be easier if we start from like Jim Crow Negro

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<v Speaker 1>laws redlining. If we start from that period alone, it

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be easier for us to put your reparations

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<v Speaker 1>no going all the way back to slavery, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the having to try to calculate who gets reparations

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<v Speaker 1>is going to continue to be the issue. And if

1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:12.920
<v Speaker 1>black people don't know who they are in America, we're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna get all these niggas on one accord to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would say, look at what's going on with

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<v Speaker 4>the surviving the survivors of the Tulsa Wall Street massacre.

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<v Speaker 4>They're still alive right now. We know those people went

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<v Speaker 4>through the Wall Street, Black Wall Street massacre and Toast Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet they're refusing to pay them. Okay, like literally,

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<v Speaker 4>these people survive the bombing of Black Wall Street and

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<v Speaker 4>there are many Black Wall Streets, that's the most popular

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<v Speaker 4>one in tolds to Oklahoma, and they're not getting paid.

1:14:44.560 --> 1:14:46.759
<v Speaker 4>So I would like to say that it would be easier,

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<v Speaker 4>but we already have examples right now. We have My

1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.479
<v Speaker 4>mother and father went through Jim Crow went through red lining.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure y'all, there's tens of millions of Black Americans

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<v Speaker 4>right now, freemen who went through Jim Cored red lining.

1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:02.280
<v Speaker 4>People know who they are. If it would be easier,

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<v Speaker 4>they can pay them right now. But the funny thing

1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:07.040
<v Speaker 4>is slavery was really not that long ago. I don't know.

1:15:07.240 --> 1:15:10.479
<v Speaker 4>I have a commercial called Nana. If you follow me

1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:13.120
<v Speaker 4>on ax, I posted it like last year, you could

1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:16.000
<v Speaker 4>even just go to my Twitter account and type of Nana.

1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I did a commercial for my nana. Nana Steam Washington Brown,

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<v Speaker 4>my great grandmother. She died in twenty fifteen at one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and one. She was raised by a man who

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't slaved. His name was Willie Simmons. He was enslaved

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<v Speaker 4>in Beaufort, South Carolina. Okay, he died like in I

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<v Speaker 4>think the nineteen twenties. He wasn't slaved. He helped to

1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:44.280
<v Speaker 4>raise Nana. Nana helped to raise me. Nana just died fifteen,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and one. So I literally grew up in

1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:49.960
<v Speaker 4>the same house with a woman who was raised by

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<v Speaker 4>a man who wasn't slaved. So when people like especially

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<v Speaker 4>on white people, say, oh, that was a long time ago,

1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:58.519
<v Speaker 4>it really wasn't. We literally have some people right now,

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<v Speaker 4>old elders who were who literally grew up at a

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<v Speaker 4>time where they were surrounded by people who were just

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<v Speaker 4>formally enslaved and just coming off the plantation. But on

1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:12.200
<v Speaker 4>that note, there, you know jd. Vance, the guy Trump

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<v Speaker 4>picked for vice president. He probably won't admit this now,

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<v Speaker 4>but In an interview, he said that he saw how

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<v Speaker 4>white people in his area, you know, those former coal

1:16:24.320 --> 1:16:28.040
<v Speaker 4>mining areas that are kind of economically depressed. Now, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>he has seen how the government can cause harm to

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<v Speaker 4>entire groups of people. He said, so lately he's been

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<v Speaker 4>thinking more about reparations that black people, and his words

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<v Speaker 4>have been calling for, he said, for Jim Crown redlining.

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<v Speaker 4>So if people want to say, well, let's do reparation

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<v Speaker 4>for Jim Corn red lining, Okay, yeah, let's do that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still gonna just say that. I'm still gonna fight

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<v Speaker 4>for the ones from there to slavery. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna stop though, with the one of slavery. You know

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<v Speaker 4>why though, because the debt began with slavery. So people

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<v Speaker 4>like to say, well, black immigrants should be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of reparations because some of them were here during Jim

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<v Speaker 4>Coren red lining. Okay, yeah, but they came after the

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<v Speaker 4>debt was already old. The moment slavery ended in America

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<v Speaker 4>was the moment America should have paid us. The moment

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<v Speaker 4>they did it right away, that's from reparations. That's when

1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:19.720
<v Speaker 4>the debt was old. They just made the debt compound

1:17:19.760 --> 1:17:22.360
<v Speaker 4>because they didn't pay us. So people So when some

1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:25.320
<v Speaker 4>people say, well some black immigrants were here doing germ

1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:27.040
<v Speaker 4>core in red lining, well, first of all, they chose

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<v Speaker 4>to come, second of all, and number two deaths. They came,

1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:34.280
<v Speaker 4>but the debt was already old to us. They came

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<v Speaker 4>after the debt had already began and it was just

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<v Speaker 4>starting to compound because America has yet to pay us.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I say, one more thing we gotta lose.

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<v Speaker 4>This defeats mentality too. That's another reason why yet we

1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:52.320
<v Speaker 4>people say that ain't never going to happen. Anyone who

1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:55.799
<v Speaker 4>says that they are freemen, you are an embarrassment to yourself.

1:17:56.080 --> 1:17:59.880
<v Speaker 4>You're an embarrassment. They told our people slavery will never

1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:03.360
<v Speaker 4>They said, this is how it's going to be. Slavery's

1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:05.800
<v Speaker 4>not going to end. Get over it. And we fought back,

1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:09.280
<v Speaker 4>and slavery ended. They said Jim Crow would never end,

1:18:09.560 --> 1:18:12.759
<v Speaker 4>and Jim Crow ended. We're still going to the legacy

1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:15.599
<v Speaker 4>of Jim Crow. But it did end. So any freeman

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<v Speaker 4>out there saying we're never gonna get reparations and you

1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:21.479
<v Speaker 4>are of the lineage, that's an embarrassment. You ought to

1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:23.600
<v Speaker 4>be ashamed. Of yourself. So what do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the solution now? What do we do now,

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<v Speaker 1>just even just starting with the three of us, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do now to push reparations forward for the

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<v Speaker 1>next election.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what we do now is we educate people. Like

1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:40.360
<v Speaker 4>we've been like having these conversations. People think that that

1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:43.160
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make a difference. It's a victims I thought. My

1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:45.800
<v Speaker 4>thing is, we do need to run for office, or

1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:48.240
<v Speaker 4>find people who will run for office. We do need

1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:51.840
<v Speaker 4>to support those people. That means help fundraise for them.

1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:54.599
<v Speaker 4>That means knock on doors for them, call people for them,

1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.519
<v Speaker 4>mail out flyers for them. We have to have people

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<v Speaker 4>in power who are going to actually write the legislation

1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:03.800
<v Speaker 4>and fight to get it passed. People may say it what,

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<v Speaker 4>it's never going to pass. No, it's never going to pass.

1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:07.800
<v Speaker 4>We have even bringing up the pass. We have to

1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:11.400
<v Speaker 4>get people in office in power. But my mother told me,

1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:14.519
<v Speaker 4>and my father told me too, you're skipping an important step.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to educate people. And at first I thought, Okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, somebody just gotta run for office. I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>win and I'll get up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do it.

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<v Speaker 4>They were right, before you can even get to that part.

1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:27.080
<v Speaker 4>You really do have to educate people. So the first

1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:30.840
<v Speaker 4>thing is educate our people about what we're old. Who

1:19:31.160 --> 1:19:34.680
<v Speaker 4>it goes to. It can be done, because it has

1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:38.519
<v Speaker 4>been done before, is being done right now, and for

1:19:39.680 --> 1:19:41.960
<v Speaker 4>how the people in power right now can do it,

1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:45.120
<v Speaker 4>but they're choosing not to, and that's why they need

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<v Speaker 4>to go. Number Two, we need to consider running for office,

1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:52.479
<v Speaker 4>or at least being on teams of people who are

1:19:52.520 --> 1:19:55.000
<v Speaker 4>running for office and pushing them in the direction whatever

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<v Speaker 4>going to stand up for us. Number Three, if people

1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:01.080
<v Speaker 4>are not standing up for we need to call them out.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, one of the things that put me on

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<v Speaker 4>people's radar originally before I even thought about running, was

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 4>I confronted James Clyburn. I confronted him about his majority

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<v Speaker 4>black district having the highest eviction rate. North Charleston has

1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:17.960
<v Speaker 4>the highest e victory rate in America. Black women are

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<v Speaker 4>the most likely to be put out on this street.

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<v Speaker 4>James Clyburn's district has one of the lowest wages in America.

1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:27.360
<v Speaker 4>It has one of the highest percentages of people making

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<v Speaker 4>just seven dollars fifty cents per hour to almost any

1:20:29.920 --> 1:20:32.760
<v Speaker 4>other place in America. We have issues with clean water

1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:36.840
<v Speaker 4>in North Charleston. Again, Florence, South Carolina didn't mark South

1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Carolina places that have issues with water quality his district.

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<v Speaker 4>We all know about the Corridor of Shame where I live.

1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:49.080
<v Speaker 4>That's a network of poor, majority black rural communities where

1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:51.960
<v Speaker 4>the quality of education is awful and the level of

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:53.400
<v Speaker 4>poverty is sky high.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the prison in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we got a lot of prisons. But James Clivern

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<v Speaker 4>the most powerful members of Congress. This man has power.

1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:07.400
<v Speaker 4>He gets Republicans to sign on to legislation all the

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<v Speaker 4>time that they did not like. He's able to make deals.

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<v Speaker 4>He can make deals for everyone else. The Cataba Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 4>who are a tribe in the mountains of South Carolina

1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:20.639
<v Speaker 4>and North Carolina. They were former and slavers. Not only

1:21:20.720 --> 1:21:23.640
<v Speaker 4>were the Kataba Native Americans former and slavers, they were

1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:27.360
<v Speaker 4>also slave hunters and they were bruted. James Cliburn when

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<v Speaker 4>he first got into office, he had a reparations bill

1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:32.560
<v Speaker 4>passed for them, and the bill says for them to

1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:36.880
<v Speaker 4>get special protections, recognition, justice, and rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly want I got to google what they look like?

1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Is I bet you they don't look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Right now, right, he haven't see Native Americans who

1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:49.000
<v Speaker 4>look like us here. They get nothing. Those poor damnagon

1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:51.200
<v Speaker 4>naive Americans have to go to the beautif Town Council

1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:53.800
<v Speaker 4>and stuff and fight like hell all the time just

1:21:53.960 --> 1:21:57.599
<v Speaker 4>for basic recognition that they still don't get. So James

1:21:57.680 --> 1:21:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Cliburn can do all of this for other groups. He's up.

1:22:00.040 --> 1:22:05.000
<v Speaker 4>They're stumping hard for illegal immigrants. Okay, when that shooting

1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:09.639
<v Speaker 4>happened in Atlanta, that was really some weird guy going

1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:14.400
<v Speaker 4>to some ASI and he was sitting there calling for

1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:16.000
<v Speaker 4>that Asian hate crime Bell. They'd like to say it

1:22:16.040 --> 1:22:17.599
<v Speaker 4>wasn't just an asient. Yes, the hell that was. That's

1:22:17.600 --> 1:22:18.160
<v Speaker 4>who they did it.

1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>For, and they got money in that package. Is We

1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:21.479
<v Speaker 1>actually talked about it on.

1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:24.880
<v Speaker 4>This but when the shooting happened, James Clapper didn't say

1:22:24.920 --> 1:22:28.760
<v Speaker 4>a single word about hatred of black Americans and how

1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:30.559
<v Speaker 4>it's been done for Central media to hate Crime Bell.

1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:32.479
<v Speaker 4>So you see you say that he gets away with it.

1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:34.400
<v Speaker 4>How we are not running up on hell and I'm

1:22:34.439 --> 1:22:36.479
<v Speaker 4>not advocating for balance and may be very clear because

1:22:36.520 --> 1:22:38.320
<v Speaker 4>he will play that game and they will play that game.

1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:40.479
<v Speaker 4>But we need to be running up on these people.

1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:43.840
<v Speaker 4>We need to be saying, Hey, hold on, how dare

1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:47.320
<v Speaker 4>you advocate for aging to get special protection but your

1:22:47.400 --> 1:22:51.400
<v Speaker 4>own people have been a lynch gun now and mascolized

1:22:51.479 --> 1:22:54.519
<v Speaker 4>nation for centuries and we don't have a single bill

1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:59.639
<v Speaker 4>specifically for us. How dare you advocate for the Gataba

1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:03.240
<v Speaker 4>navor Americans who are forming enslavers to get reparations but

1:23:03.479 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 4>the freemen and yes they are, Yes, there are. How

1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.479
<v Speaker 4>did he do the video with viral and someone is

1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:18.080
<v Speaker 4>not that account is seriously got banned from Twitter, so

1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I started this one that I have now, but the

1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:23.920
<v Speaker 4>video is still floating around. He pretty much responded with

1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:28.320
<v Speaker 4>some emotional language about these are my ancestors too, and

1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:32.080
<v Speaker 4>don't you dare question that these are my answers. Emotionalism.

1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:34.240
<v Speaker 4>You know how they say what lawyers do when they're

1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:37.120
<v Speaker 4>losing an argument, They pound the table, they get emotional

1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:39.000
<v Speaker 4>to try to distract from the fact that they lost

1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:41.040
<v Speaker 4>the argument. That's what he did. But I wouldn't let

1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.280
<v Speaker 4>him do it. And I kept pressing them about how

1:23:43.680 --> 1:23:46.400
<v Speaker 4>his record of advocating for all these other groups but

1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:48.760
<v Speaker 4>not advocating for us, And I pressed them about how

1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:53.240
<v Speaker 4>desperately poor his majority black district is, which is why

1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:55.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of black people are leaving his district.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think a lot a lot of the older

1:23:57.400 --> 1:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>people need to go ahead and step down, and a

1:24:00.120 --> 1:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of the new ones, a lot of the new

1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>younger politicians, they don't really want to make you give this.

1:24:06.160 --> 1:24:09.799
<v Speaker 1>They just want us close up proximity to white power.

1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Inact, they want to be able to take photos. It's

1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:15.439
<v Speaker 4>go on Instagram and talk about how successful they are.

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:17.760
<v Speaker 4>They do it to flex on us. You see the

1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:20.200
<v Speaker 4>problem with some of our people, if you want to

1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:24.559
<v Speaker 4>call them that, They don't advance in power for us.

1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:28.920
<v Speaker 4>They advance in power to look down on us. They

1:24:29.040 --> 1:24:32.280
<v Speaker 4>advance in power so they can have lunches with a

1:24:32.400 --> 1:24:36.160
<v Speaker 4>person of this elevated position. They advance in power so

1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:40.120
<v Speaker 4>they can be able to get access to the areas

1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:42.680
<v Speaker 4>where they formally did not have. They do it for

1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:45.600
<v Speaker 4>them in their own advancement. They don't do it for

1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:49.320
<v Speaker 4>our advancement. And that's the problem right there. I haven't

1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:52.400
<v Speaker 4>gained a single thing from this. Matter of fact, I've

1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:56.720
<v Speaker 4>suffered some backlashes, but I'm finding back obviously. But I

1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:59.519
<v Speaker 4>knew even who it was going through it, even when

1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I have had. My MO was a discouragement that I'm

1:25:01.400 --> 1:25:03.360
<v Speaker 4>not doing it for me. I'm doing it for us.

1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.240
<v Speaker 4>And let me be very clear, I can't stand a

1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:07.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of us. I'm going to be very very clear,

1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:09.519
<v Speaker 4>but it's not about whether I like us or not.

1:25:09.880 --> 1:25:13.519
<v Speaker 4>It's about love of the justice and what has not

1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:15.599
<v Speaker 4>been done for us. And I can't say I truly

1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:18.439
<v Speaker 4>love justice where my own people have yet to get it,

1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:21.000
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going around here looking out for myself. That's

1:25:21.080 --> 1:25:21.400
<v Speaker 4>not right.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Amen? Amen?

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<v Speaker 1>Who this was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an excellent conversation. I learned so much. I

1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>can honestly say I was very apprehensive about having a

1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>politician on. I'm like, oh, this nigga about to come

1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and say that's how I feel. But we got to

1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>protect you at all colors. Okay you do. I support

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.519
<v Speaker 2>everything you're saying, and I appreciate you so much.

1:25:47.760 --> 1:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>We thank y'all so much for having me here, and

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<v Speaker 4>y'all take care.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, don't leave yet. But want you to

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<v Speaker 2>plug yourself. Tell people where they can find you, tell

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<v Speaker 2>people where they can learn more, where they can support you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. My website, Marcel, which people spell difference. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna spell it mr Cel for Congress dot Com. It

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<v Speaker 4>has on there. If you want to leave the nation,

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<v Speaker 4>you made the campaign that's coming to us in But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, right now, I'm really doing a big push

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<v Speaker 4>to try to get people out there because visibility matters.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm running third party. I'm running with the United Citizens Party,

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<v Speaker 4>which was a party founded by Freeman here in South

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<v Speaker 4>Carolina in the nineteen sixties. So visibility is every day.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to get the word out so if

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<v Speaker 4>anyone belaves the nation, I'll be great. But also on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Marcel the number four Congress, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>find a lot of my videos on there before I

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<v Speaker 4>ran for office. Now that I'm running for office, you

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<v Speaker 4>can just see a lot of my advocacy and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of my educational work, because truth be told, that's

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<v Speaker 4>really what this is. This is really an educational work.

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<v Speaker 4>You educate people, to motivate people, to activate people.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It needs to be on a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I really does.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't y'all vote for future Congressman Marcel Dixon.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>If you enjoy this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you get your podcasts that? This is your co

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<v Speaker 2>Kick it Tam, y'all, It's official, Tam bam. I love

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<v Speaker 2>y'all so much. Remember speak now.

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