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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Santra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that

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Speaker 3: our loved ones have survived physical doubt and so will we.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Have you read the

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Speaker 3: books by Neil Donald Walsh Conversations with God As a

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Speaker 3: poor and often homeless man eventually had questions and answers

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Speaker 3: with who he believed was God in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the night, waking up and filling dozens and dozens of

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Speaker 3: yellow legal pads with what became a most extraordinary conversation.

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Speaker 3: In our episode today, I want to talk about this

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Speaker 3: subject called inspired or automatic writing. I think it's important

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Speaker 3: to talk about the term trance channeling and to perhaps

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Speaker 3: open the idea to you that through writing there's an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to continue the relationship you have with your loved one.

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Speaker 3: Just a few episodes ago, we talked electronic voice phenomena,

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Speaker 3: which is difficult. It takes time, it takes practice. I

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Speaker 3: than we could ever imagine, and that they communicate with

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Speaker 3: us through our thoughts and our feelings. What if we

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Speaker 3: have a journal dedicated to our loved one and we

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Speaker 3: open it up and have that conversation. I don't think

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Speaker 3: In the beginning, it might be one percent them and

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Speaker 3: that we're going to see them again. They try when

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Speaker 3: they can to make a visitation within a dream. I

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Speaker 3: We've heard of physical mediums and people that go into

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Speaker 3: Automatic writing is having someone in that trance like state,

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine, and as promised,

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Speaker 3: I want you to hear some words from producer Stephen Simon,

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Speaker 3: When I caught up with Stephen, I asked him how

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Speaker 1: So when I look back on my life, I realized

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Speaker 1: that my entire life was designed to lead to right now,

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Speaker 3: First of all, Wow, wow, I've read I think all

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Speaker 3: with more. Steven Simon. You're listening to Shades of the

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Speaker 3: Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

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Speaker 3: Sandra Champlain and we're talking to Stephen Simon, author of

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Speaker 3: And he says, what if I'm making all this up?

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Speaker 1: What if this is just me? What if I'm making

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Speaker 1: make this up? Steve? And then all you're doing is

432
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: trying to comfort yourself. And when people ask me that,

433
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: they say, how do you know? My answer is I don't.

434
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: I can't one hundred percent tell you that it is real.

435
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: This is about beliefs, and I can't quote prove it unquote,

436
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: so I have to say to people, well, ninety nine

437
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: and nine hundred and ninety nine tenths of one thousand,

438
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm certain, but you'll have to make up your own

439
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: mind about that. And I think that also extends to

440
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: how we see the afterlife. You know, in dreams, it

441
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: is a magnificent painted world that Robin wakes up into.

442
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: And there was a lot that went behind that, and

443
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: there's a reason that the people who did those effects

444
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: won the Academy Award that year for it because it

445
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: was just mind boggling and our incredible production designer Eugenio Zenetti,

446
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: who also got nominated for Academy Award. But the whole

447
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: conceit of that is that he went someplace he was

448
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: comfortable because his wife painted. His wife was the curator

449
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: at a museum. It was a way they converse. They

450
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: had paintings all over their house, and it gave him

451
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: handrails to move himself into the afterlife, and everything that

452
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: he experienced were images from his own life. And one

453
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Speaker 1: of the things that I believe strongly in this experience

454
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: now is that the afterlife is not one size fits all.

455
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: The life is certainly not. Is it so very different

456
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: people with very different beliefs. So why can't a person's

457
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: afterlife experience reflect their beliefs in life? You know, if

458
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you believe it is going to be the traditional religious god,

459
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: then it should be. And if you believe it's something different,

460
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: then it should be that. And there's unlimited space. And

461
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: I am assured by Lauren that what we've designed is

462
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: what we are going to experience. I love that.

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Speaker 3: I agree, and you said it earlier. When you're out

464
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: of your mind with grief, but into your heart. I

465
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: think the same thing holds true Stephen. When you read

466
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: Conversations with God, when you read your book, there's a feeling,

467
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: an emotion, there's something that resonates with our soul that

468
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: this is the real deal. You know, it's not you.

469
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: I mean, could be part you, part Lauren, could be

470
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: part Neil, part God. But the truth just resonates to

471
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: our soul that these are divine words. Let's listen.

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Speaker 1: And I also think we're learning something now as we

473
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: have been. You know, Sandra, if you go back at

474
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: least in America, this what you might call spiritual movement,

475
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: that is, has much in common with religion and with

476
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: religious beliefs, but has much that is different. Really didn't

477
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: start in earnest in this country until the fifties, nineteen fifties,

478
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: at Esslon and at other places around the country, at

479
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Esslin in Big sur when these big thoughts started, and

480
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: then all of that literature flooded into the world. You know,

481
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: it's Wayne Dyer's work, it's Neil's work, it's James Redfield's work.

482
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Speaker 1: I mean, all of that came into the world. Well,

483
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: you haven't seen one of those since illusion. Oh yes,

484
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is now the information's out

485
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: there right, and I think people are beginning to resonate

486
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: with that. And because of that, we are learning a

487
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: different language, and it is a language of the heart.

488
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, there was a movie many years ago that

489
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: had a great line in it the heart is a

490
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: mysterious organ It plays by its own rules. And to

491
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: that I would most humbly add that the brain does

492
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: not understand because it is a different language. And learning

493
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: to experience the language of the heart is challenging. It

494
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: is exhilarating, it can be frustrating, but it is a

495
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: new way of being and I believe that for those

496
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: who have these communications. And since we published the book,

497
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and since people such as yourself have been kind enough

498
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: to have me on to talk about it, the emails

499
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: that I've been receiving from people and the responses to

500
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: the book have been so gratifying because at the end

501
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: of the day, the reason that Lauren and I really

502
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: did this was to say to people, hey, you're not alone.

503
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Don't let people tell you you're crazy. You can talk

504
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: about this with people, and if they don't want to

505
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: hear it, then those aren't people who should be in

506
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: your tribe around you, you know, I mean that you

507
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to experience that, and I'm glad that we

508
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: are giving some people some consensual validation that there are

509
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: millions of us who are experiencing this. There are Facebook

510
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: groups that are completely dedicated to this, to people who

511
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: have lost spouses physically but are still communicating through the veil.

512
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely hoping it'll never be mainstream, which is a word

513
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I hate anybody because usually means well, it really doesn't

514
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: say much of anything, but it doesn't offend anybody, you know.

515
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I would rather make movies like I've made, like Somewhere

516
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: in Time and What Dreams May Come, that people either

517
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: love or hate. And I can tell you they either

518
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: love or hate both of those movies. There are very

519
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: few people in the middle. And to me, that's art.

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00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you're trying to make everybody happy. You make no

521
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: one happy. Tell us a little bit about the book,

522
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: and what does it feel like when you write that

523
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: you know it's Lauren, if that makes sense.

524
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, When we were actually writing the book, it was

525
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: mostly in the second year after Lauren had transitioned. It

526
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: was mostly in twenty nineteen. It was automatic writing when

527
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: I was feeling Lauren and people said, you know, well,

528
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: when you converse with Lauren, do you hear her voice?

529
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: And my answer is no, I don't because her voice

530
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: was a part of her body, and her body was cremated.

531
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist anymore. So I don't hear her voice,

532
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: but I feel her words in my heart, and I

533
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: know my wife. We've been together a long time. I've

534
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: had so many mediums, and one in particularly, a very

535
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: dear friend who you may know, Alison du Bois, talk

536
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: about this and it's like, you know, Stephen, you guys

537
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: have been doing this for so long, you don't really

538
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: need anybody to help you communicate with each other. When

539
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: that all happens, your life changes. It becomes the focus

540
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: of your life. And this is the focus of my life.

541
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: And I hope that when the time comes that I

542
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: do reunion with Lauren, we will have left behind a

543
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: marker for people who have these kinds of love. And

544
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily have to be a spouse. It can

545
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: be a mother, a father, a child. I've gotten some

546
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: heartrending emails from people who have lost children and then

547
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: have reconnected with them on the other side of the veil,

548
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: and it is why when I said in the beginning,

549
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: my whole life seems like it has been funneled into

550
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: this as my final public facing project. You know, I

551
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: have no idea when I'm going to rejoin Lauren. Only

552
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: my soul knows that. But in the meantime, we have this.

553
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: We have five amazing adult kids and four amazing grandchildren

554
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: hint hint to a couple of daughters with more to come.

555
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: And you know, it's taken me almost four years to

556
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: get to a place where I actually feel I'm kind

557
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: of emotionally okay, at least most of the time. But

558
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: as most people know, grief, the best quote I ever

559
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: heard about grief is that grief lasts as long as

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00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: love does.

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00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 6: Makes sense.

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: That's the case.

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00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: The more we love, the more it hurts. You know,

564
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: we are connected, And when my dad passed, we were

565
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: so close, and it really took about four years before

566
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: I felt like this dark cloud started to let go.

567
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my gosh, I'm coming back. And grief

568
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: is an automatic process that we can certainly do things

569
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: to help ourselves, but we need to really be gentle

570
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: on ourselves and when the time comes, does let up.

571
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: But until then, like you have made such a difference,

572
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: your movies, your words, your books. I don't even know

573
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: all about the spiritual cinema and things that you've created there,

574
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: but they'll live on forever, Stephen. And people have that

575
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 3: aha moment by watching a film not even expecting it,

576
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: and that has the power to set people on their

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: spiritual journey.

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Speaker 1: It does, and I feel very fortunate I have been

579
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: gifted with all this. This is something that I knew

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I needed to do when I came here, and when

581
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: I recognized what my life purpose was, the universe just

582
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: created it for me and I basically needed to stay

583
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: out of the way. Yes, getting Dreams made after twenty

584
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: years was twenty years of people telling me, you can't

585
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: forgetting the fact that no one will ever go see

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: this movie, Stephen, no one will ever know how to

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00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: make it right. And for a long time that was

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00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: true until I found the guy, Vincent Ward, who's a

589
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: brilliant director from New Zealand who knew exactly how to

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: make it.

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: And he did Steven's film What Dreams May Come, that

592
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: took him twenty years to produce, won seven Academy Awards

593
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: when it came out back in nineteen ninety eight. You

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: never know what can happen if you follow your dreams.

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Speaker 3: So it's time for our next break and we'll be

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Speaker 3: back listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and I

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00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: forgot to mention that Stephen Simon's website is what Dreams

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Speaker 3: Have Come dot com. Now wouldn't it be nice to

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00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 3: hear what the afterlife thinks of inspired writing and how

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: we can be in touch with our loved ones. Yep,

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00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: we can do it. As I told you earlier. One

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Speaker 3: of our dearest friends is Scott Milligan. Twenty six years.

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Speaker 3: He's been sitting on behalf of the spiritual world. The

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: most loving and wonderful messages come through his trance mediumship

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00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: through the voice of Eric Robert Johnston, who passed at

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Speaker 3: the end of the eighteen hundreds. I've sat with Scott

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00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: over two hundred hours now and have moderated questions and

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: answers with mister Eric on life, death, in the afterlife,

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00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: great questions and you're always welcome to join us. So

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: I'm going to first place some words from Scott. This

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00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: is from our class this week. He teaches a class

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Speaker 3: called Trance and the Altered States online just so you

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00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 3: can hear his voice and then you'll hear from mister Eric.

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Speaker 4: The achievement must be correct. And I'm so excited to

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00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: see so many people on the wonderful social media sharing

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: their gift. But what I'm concerned is are they at

619
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: that level yet to share their gift by all means

620
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: in the safety of a circle and the safety of

621
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: the environment will really excel you forward. But also once

622
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: you go public, you're opening yourself up to criticism, which

623
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: is chink to your armor, which you really have to

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00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: work to get over as.

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Speaker 1: Things go on.

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Speaker 4: But I want you all to have a long jeopardy

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00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: with our gifts within our movement and to make yourself

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Speaker 4: available to the spirit world so the spirit world can

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00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: then use you for rare opportunities. Part of the development

630
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: was to say to the spirit world, if you need me,

631
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Speaker 4: take what is needed, guide me to where I'm meant

632
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: to be so that I can sweep the path. And

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Speaker 4: the moment we started to offer those thoughts, I kind

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00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: of asked myself why was I allowed to sit every

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Speaker 4: night in a seance with Colin Fry, David Thompson, Stuart Alexander,

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: and Joan Navison, and for my own development and rare

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00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: occasions Polly as well. Why is it that I was

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00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: allowed to go to cober Hill and sit next to

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00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: the mediums that were demonstrating, or be able to go

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: and stay with Eileen Davies and live with David Thompson,

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00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: and to then go to Mavis Botilla's house and be.

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00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: With her for a period of time.

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Speaker 4: I believe, in my humble opinion, is because we made

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00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: that promise to the spirit world that we open ourselves

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Speaker 4: up to serve. Now, I'm not saying for one moment

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Speaker 4: I played any part in their development.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: But I believe that the other world saw an opportunity

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Speaker 4: that they needed just a little bit more. And that's

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Speaker 4: these little gold nuggets that you get. And so I

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Speaker 4: kind of really want you to start offering yourself to

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Speaker 4: the spirit world and say, look to our friends and

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Speaker 4: to our helpers and to the Great Power. If you

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Speaker 4: need me or you need something, take or guide me.

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Speaker 4: I am yours. As my love moves within your world,

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Speaker 4: may your thoughts move within my mind. And these wonderful

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Speaker 4: opportunities will present themselves to you, and sometimes flowers grow

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Speaker 4: in the darkest and dampest places which have a great

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Speaker 4: impact within this world. So by all means watch, by

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Speaker 4: all means prey, but by all means give of yourself

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Speaker 4: and great things will come.

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Speaker 3: So this next clip is me talking to mister Eric

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Speaker 3: on one of our fridays. It's called in the Arms

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Speaker 3: of Eternity. As a trance medium, Scott takes at least

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Speaker 3: ten minutes to blend with his eyes closed with the

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Speaker 3: spirit world. Some of these people I told you to

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Speaker 3: do these channels from who knows who? Well, they can

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Speaker 3: just close their eyes and start talking, which leads me

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Speaker 3: to believe it's more of them and less of the

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Speaker 3: spirit world. She says. My husband passed five years ago.

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Speaker 3: I so much want to be in touch with him.

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Speaker 3: So I have taken mediumship and automatic writing courses, but

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Speaker 3: I feel that I don't really shift into an expanded state.

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Speaker 3: How can I be a better conduit to exchange messages

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Speaker 3: from him and give messages to others for the highest good?

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Speaker 6: Thank you Eric, Well, my friend, may I say this

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Speaker 6: to your The journey has already begun for you to

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Speaker 6: know that your husband lives on. Many people in your

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Speaker 6: world do not accept that statement. But you know because

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Speaker 6: you are searching. Even though it has been five very

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Speaker 6: long years, five very painful years that have been days

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Speaker 6: in weeks and months, but you have found the strength

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Speaker 6: to investigate. Is it truly possible, with some results years,

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Speaker 6: to be a better instrument for our world? It is

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Speaker 6: to sit in company of who you are. This will

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Speaker 6: be the root of your development. Like any tree that

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Speaker 6: reaches great heights, it must always draw from its root

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00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 6: to the strength the route will hold it firm, even

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Speaker 6: though the mighty wind will blow, It will hold it

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Speaker 6: to the earth if the rivers burst their banks. You

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Speaker 6: must always remain with the core of the development of

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Speaker 6: sitting to know who you are. Once you become relax

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Speaker 6: with this thought and the emulation of communication starts to

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Speaker 6: exude from you, then grab that pen and bring it

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Speaker 6: to life. But to understand. For this moment it may

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Speaker 6: be the pen that writes, but it comes from the

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00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 6: message within. You will realize you may not have to

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Speaker 6: hold the pen and just sit and listen to the

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Speaker 6: voices that may speak through the memory of who you are.

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Speaker 6: To allow the time to be your friend, not your

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Speaker 6: enemy to appreciate life and also appreciate the eternal life.

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Speaker 6: Every time you think of the loved one, and in

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Speaker 6: this instance in the story your husband, if you think

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Speaker 6: of him and see him happy and well and shares

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Speaker 6: laughter and strong memories, that brings overwhelming joy. That is

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Speaker 6: him working his way into your life after he survived it.

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Speaker 6: If you see or think of anything that causes any

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Speaker 6: disruption or discomfort, or any pain or tears of sadness,

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Speaker 6: it has come from your mind. And therefore we have

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Speaker 6: to work with your mind to return that smile.

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Speaker 1: Do you so to.

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Speaker 6: Become a sharper tall or instrument, or a clearer voice

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Speaker 6: of our world, like the master's hand has to master

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Speaker 6: the tall. As you unfold your understanding, we also learn

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Speaker 6: to work with you. So it works on two sides

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Speaker 6: of the stream. My friend, you can become clearer, but

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00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 6: we may have to catch and speed our thoughts rapidly.

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Speaker 6: And so, my friend, psychomatry helps for you to understand

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Speaker 6: the vibration of now and of the past, building your

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Speaker 6: sensitivity so that all facets of who you are can

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Speaker 6: be used, and from that can be the rise of

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Speaker 6: the spirit. And therefore you become and use the title

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Speaker 6: media arm a medium between the worlds for the world.

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Speaker 6: You may travel the world and sit in different chairs

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Speaker 6: and listen to different explanations, but you are learning from

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Speaker 6: someone else that seems communication from their own making. And

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Speaker 6: are you not the storyteller of your own story? Be

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Speaker 6: who you are and be in your own company. And therefore,

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Speaker 6: my friend, your giftful unfold how it is meant to unfold,

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Speaker 6: not with the influence of someone else's ideas. Sound to

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Speaker 6: my dear. Is that pleasing, yes, very much, so, thank you, Eric.

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Speaker 6: I apologize to you all that time is against me.

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Speaker 6: It has been the fascinating conversation to engage with the

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Speaker 6: words that others have uttered, or to hear your sweet

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Speaker 6: voice has uplifted my spirit. But may I return this

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Speaker 6: to you and say to each of you, you who

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Speaker 6: may go to bed this day concerned, allow your mind

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Speaker 6: to be free, just for a moment. For when you sleep,

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Speaker 6: let us counsel you, so when you wake you have

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Speaker 6: the focus to face the day and see it through.

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Speaker 6: May be the love of our world wrap around you

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Speaker 6: and the families that you represented this day, May they

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Speaker 6: know and have the knowledge of the eternal life. Good

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Speaker 6: day to you my.

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Speaker 3: Friends, and good day to you. Mister Eric. You can

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Speaker 3: always join us on a Friday. Just go to We

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Speaker 3: Don'tdie dot com click on the store page. Well, as

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Speaker 3: it's been said in this episode, the journey has already begun.

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Speaker 3: I know it has for you because you are listening today.

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Speaker 3: As Neil Donald Walsh said, be out of your mind

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00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: and into your heart. That's where it all begins. As

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Speaker 3: mister Eric was talking about going within, please revisit episode

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen for the experiential journey and I

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Speaker 3: hope you start inspired writing or automatic writing, have that

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Speaker 3: special journal between you and your loved one and see

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Speaker 3: what unfolds. In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain and I'm always

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Speaker 3: so happy to be your host on Shades of the

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Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal

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Speaker 3: Podcast Network.

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