WEBVTT - Meet Big Mike 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.239 week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.920 the old Republic, the sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.800 crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.240 pill poppers in the penthouse, the clearing House of hot takes, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.079 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:33.160 Maller starts right now Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Here we are 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.840 yet again, eight days a week, eight days a week. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.440 Welcome into the Saturday podcast, The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.400 We hope you enjoyed Friday's podcast. If you did not 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.720 hear the Friday podcast, Bad Job by You, you can 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.639 go back and listen to it. It's timeless, it's classical. Uh. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.520 Catching up with no Procer, who had a long run 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.200 with the Baltimore Oils and the Washington Bulls. He also 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.160 was the first announcer for the Washington Nationals and has 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.479 worked with a bunch of other teams. He called games 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.920 for the New Jersey Nets and the Texas Rangers. Was 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.600 in Hawaii and I enjoyed the conversation and I don't 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.679 even know I learned something new about NFL films. From 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.000 mel So if you want to hear that, go back 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.160 and download the Friday podcast. But upward and onward we go. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:33.440 It is Saturday and no gascon, a gascon free weekend. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.200 A man with that kind of work ethic rest of 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.880 the four oh five, not here, but in his place, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:46.200 a living, breathing Fox Sports Radio legend behind the scenes. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.760 Occasionally this man pops up on the air. Occasionally it 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.840 happens Big Mike is in the house in that the 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.880 gascon chair. Hello, Big Mike. Hello, Barn Mellon knows a 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.840 pretty nice central man. Feel like I should have some 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.320 walk up music or something. Well, you're like in old 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:04.880 tub I know you know, no no, and see guess 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.880 I will play like applause and stuff like that. Yeah, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.639 that would be that would be a nightmare. Now do 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.200 do you live west of the four or five or 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.519 east of the four or five? I live just east 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.280 of the four or five, like literally a quarter of 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.720 a mile east of the four or five. That's okay, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.880 you're east of the four or five, as long as 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.680 you're not west of the four or five. Because I've bad, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.880 I've bad, you know, juju with the people that live 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.600 west of the four or five, like Gascon, So there's 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.880 a point. There's a point of you know, like a 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.360 lion the sand here, Big Mike, west or east of 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.640 the four or five, and as long as they're even 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.680 a footstep away, Like I love Tito's tacos rightly. My 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.720 favorite Tinos Tacos is literally against the four or five freeway. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.320 But it is east of the four oh five, so 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.640 that's okay. Even though it's looking at it's right next 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.000 to the freeway, but it's east of it, so it's 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.080 all right too. Those is within walking distance from my house? 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.960 Is that right? Is right? I'm jealous, man, I'd be 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.480 eating it. Although full disclosure, when I first started going 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.560 to Titos, I'm gonna date myself, but I could get 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.600 like five tacos for ten bucks. Now those tacos with 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.880 cheese like five bucks each. Almost oh yeah, but you 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.560 don't have to pay cash anymore. They're taking credit cards now. Yeah. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.520 I was surprised by that because they had a straight 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.799 cash business for like thirty forty years, you know, and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.919 I'm not saying they didn't pay their taxes, Big Mike, 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.240 but there are workarounds when you get cash, you know, 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.440 whether there are things you can do, whether or not 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.120 you want to be honest or not. So yeah, for sure. Interesting. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.760 So how now, I just assume you've been at Fox 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.760 Spirits Radio as long as I have. I know you haven't. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.520 I remember when you started, but you've been here forever. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.080 How many years have you been here now, Mike? At 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.680 the company? Uh, starting two thousand four, so that's seventeen 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.160 seventeen years. And of course you've been on so they 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.680 laid me off No. Nine, So you've been consistently there 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.520 longer than I have. I had a six month, twenty 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:11.120 six day vacation, but you, technically, your seniority was wiped 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.280 out at that point. Now I am technically senior to 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.520 you as an employee here, yes, yes, but not that 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.840 I don't like to relive that faithful day there at all. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.000 But you you know where all the barer the bodies 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.880 are buried, Big Mike. Yes, you know all the secrets 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.679 of Fox Sports Radio past and present, and I'm not sharing, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.760 So don't try to get it out of me. You're not. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.200 Are you gonna? Are you gonna wry to tell all book, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.440 Big Mike? When you're done here? What happens in Sherman 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.680 Oaks stays in Sherman Oaks. Oh no, we have big 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.479 powerful microphones and we spew all of that. We spew 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.080 all of that out into the ethos is what we do. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.080 But that. But anyway, on this podcast, we are going 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:56.960 to have heavy magic. We've got just desserts and a 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:02.400 staple on Saturday podcast pop Whiz Boy. Is that exciting? 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.960 Tell me you're not. This is your dream come true, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.760 Big Mike. You weren't forced to come in and do this. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.400 You love you have great fun memories of me and 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.240 you side by side in the heart the hallways the 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.040 bowels of Fox Sports Radio back in the day. Absolutely, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.279 I've been pestering Gascon for months now to try to 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.400 let me have a shift in here and try and 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.080 try to work for him so we can go, you know, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.360 do something and pretend he's busy. Yeah, we should get 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.480 in on this. Yeah, well it's not that different, Gascon. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.400 And when it comes to the work ethic, he's you know, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.720 he check out from time to time as we as 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.160 we punt out. Anyway, so Avy Magic, by hook or 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:49.840 by crook, the wings of change have have finally swept 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.239 through the social media platforms. I did it. I clicked 0:05:55.279 --> 0:06:00.520 the switch on Twitter at bra Cadabra hook just poke 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.880 as pressed though I changed my avatar on Twitter. Now 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.240 this might seem like nothing right, This might who the 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.600 hell cares you know? It's a stupid avatar on Twitter. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.960 I get it, But it is absolutely something because I 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.320 believe I didn't. I don't know the last time I changed. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.279 I think it's been at least four years. In fact, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.200 I think it's been longer than four years that I 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.679 had the avatar that I had on Twitter. So why 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.080 did I change? Well, I was considering, not that you 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.640 really care, but I was considering making a change. I 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.800 was like, contemplating making a change. But I'm not very photogenetic. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.440 I'm I'm ugly. I generally don't like any photos that 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.640 are taken where I'm in the photo. That's usually a 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.960 way for me to not like the photo is when 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.920 my ugly mug is in the photo. So I looked 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:57.680 at a couple of things. I was like, maybe about change. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.680 I didn't. And then I was re eating some tweets 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.880 from and this actually happened on the air. If you 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.440 listen to the Overnight show, you heard this. And I 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.120 was reading tweets and this guy, E Rocker. I looked 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.200 at his advantage, like, that's pretty cool. I'd like to get, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.960 you know, in my head, I'm thinking, boy, I'd like 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.679 to get something like that. That's a good look at avatar. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:21.000 And it was a cartoon drawing of this guy's face 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.880 or whatever. I'm probably used to some app to do it. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.040 I don't know how he did it, but I pointed 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.400 out that I liked it, and I like, that's pretty good. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.760 And then like the next day or maybe it was 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.120 even that same night, I don't remember. It was either 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.679 that night or the next day. Uh. He's sent over 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.680 two of him. He had a red and a blue one, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.720 and it was like, I like that, and I, after 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.240 contemplating it some more for a couple of days, I'm like, hey, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.080 let's do it. Let's make the let's make the jump. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.840 So I am the proud owner of a new cartoon avatar, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.640 which I will describe as if for those that can't 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.720 see it, for our blind listeners. It is slick, it 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.800 is stylish, it is in vogue, it is cutting ed, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.960 and as much as this can possibly be as an avatar, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.480 I feel like I'm strutting down the catwalk and Uh. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.520 And and Big Mike, I'm doing a ciple pure weet 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.000 is what I'm doing. I'm all about it. It looks great. Oh, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.480 thank you. I appreciate it. And and so far, you know, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.920 so far positive reviews. Although we know the trolls are 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.560 out there. We are aware the trolls are out there, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.360 and they are ready to attack there. They muddy the 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.440 waters is what they do, one of them. I got 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.599 to assume that Gascon's out there with a with a 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.199 troll account that he's set up secondarily just so he can. Yeah, well, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.240 thank you for confirming that, because I have long had 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.520 these suspicion, and I have had a circumstantial evidence, anecdotal 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.640 evidence that gagon has started several burner accounts, the most 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.080 famous one the gag on account, which is a tribute 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.400 to former Fox Sports radio host Mike North, one of 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.880 the great mispronunciations of all time him, which really created 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.640 a cottage industry. Uh, the gag on account, which I'm 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.079 pretty confident David Gascon has something to do with that. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.719 And then any time I get a positive message from 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.880 somebody on social media about Gascon, I do a double take. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.080 And I'm pretty confident there that it's it's one of 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.800 his burner accounts. I agree, you are absolutely right to 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:28.839 be suspicious. Yeah. Now, so that's my Avatar story. That's 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.480 that's the big news. They're big exciting. You know how 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.559 exciting is my life, Big Mike? That changing in Avatar 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.720 is something that I feel I need to talk about 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.720 on the podcast. That's how pathetic I am. Yeah, but 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.040 I knew. I knew that. I've known you for a 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.800 long time. But now, when I first met you, Big Mike, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.000 you always had like every weekend was you were a 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.680 huge Carolina Panther fan, and you always were rocking the 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.000 Carolina Panther gear. But now you're kind of like mid 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.600 management guy. Now, now you've moved up in the company. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.679 So I'm not there during the day anymore. Not that 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.720 I ever was really there during the day much, but so, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.719 Big Mike, now have you gone corporate? Do you do 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.319 you have to dress business casual? Now? I have they 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.240 put down the hammer of God from corporate on on 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.080 the wardrobe? Are you still splitting the old Carolina Panther gear. Well, honestly, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.679 I am a dame game day gear wearing guy, So 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.679 if it's not a game day, I'm not, but I 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.600 will rock some Carolina Panthers scared for the upcoming draft 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.080 on the twenty night. I will bust out at least 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.800 a lid or something. Probably won't go in with a 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.520 full jersey, uh, seeing as how you know, there's gonna 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.960 be some corporate big wigs in the building as usually happens. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.160 But yeah, I I still got plenty of it. It 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.000 gives my wife and my daughter something to buy me 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.440 for Christmas and my birthday. You know, no, I still 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.080 yeah it Patz being like a tie beats a tie 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.080 or something like that. About and why did you become 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.360 a Carolina Panther fan? Again? I know you told me, 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.319 But so I grew up a Rams fan. I'm in 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:05.200 l A and uh, after how they did Eric Dickerson, um, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.600 and then they decided to move to St. Louis, I 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:14.360 had enough. So what I did was, after nine four, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.360 I just started rooting against the Rams. And of course, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.400 as a Rams fan growing up, I was already rooting 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.280 against the forty Niners pretty heavily. That did not change either. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.080 So when the Panthers came into the league, even though 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.640 they were in Charlotte, North Carolina, which is like three 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.280 hours from the East Coast. They were put in the 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:38.199 NFC West, So I found myself rooting four of the 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.120 Panthers four times a year because they played the Rams 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.240 twice and they played the forty Niners twice. And then 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.080 they picked up Kevin Green, who had been my favorite 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.319 Rams player before I stopped being a Rams fan. He 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.599 was then on the Panthers, and boom. It took me 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.840 about two years to make the switch over sot SI. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.360 There when they went to the NFC Championship with cart 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.000 Collins is when I jumped on board. Yeah, and I, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.600 like yourself, growing up in southern California, was a huge 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.800 l a Ram fan and love the Eric Dickerson years. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.440 Even the Jim Everett was by the way, Jim Everett 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.079 a Fox Sports radio listener, Big Mike, you know, yeah, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.880 he's a consumer of Fox Sports Radio. I've heard it 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.800 through the grapevine. But uh yeah, I was furious and 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.200 I I stopped following the Rams when they went to St. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.160 Louis two. But what I did is I just became 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.800 a degenerate gambler and then I also went with the 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.160 radio show. I just changed teams every year. I had 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.760 the contest every year like I had the listeners vote. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.240 I never remember that. Yeah, yeah, And it was a 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.559 lot of fun because I got to experience different fan 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.760 you know, being a fan of the Patriots one year, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.280 the Cowboys. And then it turned ugly though, because at 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.480 the end they were just picking whoever the worst team 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.920 was gonna be, and it was like Cleveland when they 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.640 were miserable, um, Jacksonville when they were unwatchable, you know. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.440 So so then, and I'm convinced Big Mike that they 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:01.120 were like bots that hijack the vote because it made 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.440 no sense. For years, people were like, Okay, it would 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.320 be a good team that Benkin follow has a chance 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.280 to win the Super Bowl. And then it turned on 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.800 a dime and it became hey, let's try to screw 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.280 Mallow over and have him have a miserable fan experience. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.680 And so eventually, when the Rams came back, I gave 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.040 it up. Did you consider Big Mike as I did? 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.000 I am now back on the Ram bandwagon. AlOH, I'm 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.720 not as fully invested as I was when I was younger, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.760 and I still have my doubts. I think they could 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.720 still leave again someday, but I'm back with the Rams. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.000 If you considered making the leap back, or you're too 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.640 far invested in the Carolina Panthers at this point to 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.640 make that jump. No, I'm definitely too far invested in 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.760 the Panthers, but I will say that I would I 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.959 would certainly not rule out a possible return to being 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.240 a Rams fan now of it. They're back in l 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.560 a obviously different ownership now than there was back then, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.360 so it's not totally off the table. And my you know, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.360 I don't despise them in the same way I did 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.120 when they were in St. Louis, but I'd say highly 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.480 doubtful that I'm ever going to get back on that wagon. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.680 So you're locked, you're locking your ways. But and as 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.440 a Carolina Panther fan, Big Mike, are you mad enough 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.360 to chew nails that they traded for Sam Donald? Is 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.840 this something to, you know, infuriate you because he's not 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.280 very good. I understand he's not very good, but he's 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.600 not any worse than Teddy Bridgewater, or at the very least, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.680 he's not going to be worse than a rookie quarterback 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.320 even if they were managed to trade up and get 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.680 somebody who's really good. So at least for the foreseeable future. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.920 Let's put Sam Donald in. Let's see if all that 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.560 potential that was wasted by bad management, bad coaching, and 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.920 bad situations can possibly be rectified in Carolina. I'm not 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.240 saying it can. I'm not even saying I have high 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.920 hopes that it will be. I'm just saying I'm I'm 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.880 open to the possibilities, and I'm still hoping they pick 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.320 up somebody in the draft to play quarterback. Yeah. Uh no, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.520 Big Mike, you know how I feel about potential, right. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.320 Potential means you haven't done anything. That's a great bill 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.120 parselves quote. I remember, you haven't done anything yet. And 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.480 then the other thing you you lose on potential and 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.120 you win when guys actually play well. It's the what 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.760 was my moment mantra my manchu is from Dusty Baker 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.840 that a prospect is just a suspect until proven otherwise. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.400 All right, I want to point that out trying I'm 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.440 trying to rain on your parade here, Big Well, I 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.440 mean you're not raining on a parade, because I'm not. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.640 I'm not having a parade over here. I've I've got 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.240 my fingers crossed and I'm just hoping there you go blind. Hope, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.160 I got you all right. Be sure to catch live 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:39.920 editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Easter. Now, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.520 as far as the Just Desserts are concerned, this being 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.560 the Saturday podcast, we have a follow up, a fifth 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:52.480 Hour with Ben Mallard follow up and things did boil 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.960 over this week. Now, I had a bit of a 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.520 waterloom moment. Now the previous episode of the Fifth Hour, 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.800 I explained I had played this word game on my 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.080 phone when I had a few minutes. Now and again, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.160 I didn't do it all the time, but usually before 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.640 bad I would have some downtime and I played this 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.040 word search game. Uh and and the game is advertised 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.120 where you could get money, like you play a certain 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.880 number of games, you can get like twenty bucks. I 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.120 was like, fine, so I played in this game, and 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.240 you know what, I liked the game, but you know, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.920 I was also motivated by the financial element, even tho 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.640 it's twenty bucks. You know who cares in the big picture, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.240 But I was like, it's twenty bucks. I played the 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.800 game get a one on him. So as you as 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.680 you know, if you heard the other podcast, that I 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.880 did this for a long time. And I got to 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.120 nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents, and then it would 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.720 not allow me to get that final cent that you 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.920 couldn't cash out till you get to twenty dollars. So 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.960 I got upset and I stopped playing the game. I 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.760 ripped the game on the podcast. Here. Well, I finally 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.640 had a waterloo moment. Here I made my first ever 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:06.000 review in the app store, the Apple App Store, slamming 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.840 the scammers that behind the game. Here, bitter and broken 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.879 Benny about this game that I had played for a 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.960 couple of years. Here the game called Word Relax, and 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.040 you know, just turned out to be a bait and 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.359 switch situation. And as I had said at the time, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.080 you know, I wouldn't have had a problem with it 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.360 if they had not had the false advertising. Now I 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.440 felt like I was bamboozled by the advertising. And right 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.200 up until the point I got to nineteen dollars and 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.680 nine cents in the game, it had been legitimate. I 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.320 mean it wasn't it was. You know, they made it 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.440 harder and harder to get more money, to play more 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.000 and more games, hundreds of games to get even a cent. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.679 But I was like, okay, you know, I'm in for 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.840 the battle. I'm in for the war of attrition. I'm 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.840 not You're not gonna break my soul. You're not gonna 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.600 beat me down. I Am going to figure this out, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.880 and I'm gonna keep playing and I'm gonna get the center. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.520 When I got to nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.960 it then became essentially infinity because they've always said you 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.679 have to play X number of games to get the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.240 next dollar amount. Well, once you get to nineteen dollars 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.280 nine cents they take that away. It becomes impossible. So 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.600 then I started reading some of the other reviews and 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.720 there were people that have played hundreds and hundreds and 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.240 hundreds of games, all the levels and never got in 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.080 that final penny. So it was total bullcrap. So right, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.680 I read this, and I became incensed, and I finally 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.359 was motivated enough this week, I was provoked enough to 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:36.680 go to the app store and give a one star review. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.360 Let me tell you, all right, that might not mean 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.520 much to you, but to me, that was therapeutic. You 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.960 know what it was, Big Mike. It was retribution, is 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.400 what it was. I was led astray, and I don't 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.359 like if you're gonna advertise something. I'm big believer in this, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.440 you know, the truth in advertising. I think most people 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.240 are like that. Yeah, I don't want to be scammed 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.639 like that. And you have an avenue with which you 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.320 can redress your issues, and you chose to do so 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.160 well within your rights, and I'm glad it was cathartic 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.280 for you, sir, like well from the bully pulpit, as 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.360 you know, Big Mike. This is the bully pulpit. You're 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.040 you're in the bully pulpit right now. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.320 so I can just I can just tell people what 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.240 to do and make things happen, right, yeah, pretty much? Sweet? Yeah, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.040 pretty much absolutely. All right, now we have pop quiz. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.959 H Now, Big Mike, you're in the gascon chair, so 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.720 you have to play the gascon role. I just want 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.200 to make it clear that I did switch chairs. There 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.600 are more than one chair in here, so I just 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.080 don't want to be sitting in the same chair that 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.399 guy was sitting in. Yeah, it's probably a stench. You 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.440 don't want to be there. There's cooties or whatever. Anyway, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.639 all right, so the pop quiz, now, this is just 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.560 random stuff, Big Mike, that I found around the interweb 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.639 that I thought was interesting. And then the way this 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.159 will work you listening, you can attempt to answer, and 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.080 then Big Mike can attempt to answer, and then we'll 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.760 actually have the answer and you can see how you do. 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:06.680 And it's just human nature, you know, life, life and times, 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.120 the zeitgeist of our times, if you will. Um. So, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.520 the first thing I found here a new survey asked 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.919 people to name the most important product in their life. Now, 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.880 their phone and their car were the two most common 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.040 answers as the most important products. And you don't think 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.119 that's kind of obvious there you phone, you're on your 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.560 phone all the time. The car? But what was number 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.959 three was in this random survey of people most important 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.840 products in your life? Phone? Car? Went into what do 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:43.639 you think? Number three was? Oh, that's interesting question? Do 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.800 do do? Do? Do Do? Can I think out louder? At 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.200 the first thing? I said, well, you can think out loud, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.040 but I will need your final answer. Okay, So I'm 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.679 it's a toss up between the television, a computer, and 0:20:55.720 --> 0:21:00.680 a bed television computer. So that's a three away. And 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.960 I think I think with the with the use of 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:09.119 phones and people think I am gonna go with and 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.280 the cord cutting. I'm gonna go with a bed, A bed, Yeah, 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.280 beds important. You need a bed. Uh, you need a 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.560 good bed. I'm I'm getting good sleep like a sleep 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:27.880 number bed important? Yes, uh no. But a refrigerator okay, 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:32.280 refrigerator cold food is good. Yeah, well you can store 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.119 your your food. And my refrigerators got a water thing 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.879 on it that's get my water in my ice and 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.160 and all that. I imagine living in the world before 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.439 refrigerators and and toilets with plumbing. Oh my god, what 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:48.000 a nightmare. What a nightmare. Yeah, I don't want to 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:49.960 do that. People did that for a long time. Alright, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:54.480 about forty of people say this is something they hate 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:59.200