WEBVTT - 9/29/25: Dems Vs Trump On Gov Shutdown, Multiple Shootings Across US, Bibi Brags About Social Media Control 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.200 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of the show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.239 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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Therein bbe bragging about acquiring TikTok, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:57.320 Guys are. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.640 Definitely going to enjoy that segment. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.560 We've got Eric Adam officially dropping out of the New 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:07.120 York City mayoral race and some people calling on Sleiwa 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.600 also to get out of the race. So it's a 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.440 head to head spoiler alert alert. Quoma would still loose 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.920 to Zoron, but some interesting stuff there. We've also got 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.680 Zoron going back and forth with the ADL. Trump announces 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.360 invasion of Portland. 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As 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.880 Crystal said, tomorrow is the official deadline at midnight, and 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.600 it does look all roads currently lead to a shutdown, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.520 although we will talk soon about whether the Democrats will 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.000 cave or not. But here we have the initial word 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.240 from the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, basically saying we're not 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.760 negotiating at all, calling the Democrats bluff. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.280 So we'll see what happens. Let's take a listen. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.320 So just to be clear, there's not going to be 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.600 any negotiation at this meeting. This is just going to 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.919 be you and Thun and Trump telling Jeffries and Schumer 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.080 we're not giving you anything. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:39.959 Look, I'm not going to get in front of the 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.760 President and tell you what he will do, but I've 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.280 talked with him a couple of times, even yesterday, and 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.880 I'm telling you where his head is. He wants to 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.000 bring in the leaders to come in and act like 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.560 leaders and do the right thing for the American people. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.400 It's fine to have parties and debates and squabbles, but 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.280 you don't hold the people hostage for their services. Allow 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.480 your self political cover. And that's what Chuck Schumer and 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.000 Haikim Jefferys are doing right now. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.360 So basically saying we're going to go to the meeting 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.320 and we're going to tell them we're not negotiating. This 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.320 is going to be them telling us we are not 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.000 giving you anything. Mike Johnson, that is where the president's 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.720 head is at. And so the Republican strategy is kind 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.480 of interesting. This has been telegraphed now for quite some time. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.680 We were talking about it a bit before the break, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.240 and there is the biggest question in Washington is are 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.560 the Democrats going to cave because for years they went 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:33.080 after the Republicans for manufactured shutdowns. They called them reckless, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.600 they said they were holding the government hostage. But the 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.560 thing is now the Democratic base is like, yeah, I 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.200 want to do some of that. They're like, give me 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.320 some of that. Let's screw over Trump. But the X 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.480 factor here is that Trump, and we'll get to this 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.360 in a little bit, is also like, listen, if you 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.080 guys are going to shut the government down, then I'm 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.960 going to do some crazy stuff here and I'm going 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.520 to fire a bunch of government employees. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.320 I'm going to do whatever I want with the government. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.200 You know, the president has a ton of unilateral authority 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.320 on how to actually execute a shutdown. I remember the 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.360 twenty thirteen the quote Bayner shutdown, as Obama called it 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.000 at the time. They were furious because the Republicans shut 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.920 the government down, and Obama was like, all right, I'm 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.840 going to close all the national parks. And they're like, well, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.000 you didn't actually have to close the national parks. He's like, yeah, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.280 but I can to show the public what you're doing. Eventually, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.360 you know, they did cave. To be fair, there was 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.119 a government shutdown under Donald Trump. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:22.800 I covered that. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.080 Day in and day out. He caved completely to Chuck 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.200 Schumer and to Nancy Pelosi. It was over border wall funding. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.440 But after a while he folded completely to the pressure. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.560 A lot of the public was actually pretty upset about 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.320 it too. So shutdown politics are very very hard to predict. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.279 But yeah, the big question are the Democrats going to fold? 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.400 No idea well, and so it really rests on Chuck 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:48.680 Schumer's shoulders because the dynamics here are you know, they 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.960 need to pass the funding bill. The funding bill, because 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.640 Republicans have control of the House, has already passed the House, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.520 so that's done and dusted. Now it needs to get 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.479 through the Senate. The Senate you need Democrats help because 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.039 of that sixty vote Philibus rule. So that's why you 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.039 have this dynamic. And you know, there's no doubt that 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.279 Schumer wants to cave. I think he didn't want to 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.520 do this to begin with, to be totally honest with you, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.880 and he's but he's feeling the pressure from Democratic base 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.360 that's like, when are you all going to actually fight? 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.479 And you know, the dynamics for Democrats are pretty grim. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.159 They don't have you know, they don't have the House, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.479 they don't have the Senate, they don't have the presidency. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.360 So this is one of the only times that Republicans 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.080 need them. There was another time earlier in this Trump 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.960 administration where the base again really wanted leaders to fight. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.080 The Democratic leadership decided not to fight at that time 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.159 and to completely stand down. They have been raked across 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.800 the coals from their own people ever since that moment, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.960 and so that's why they feel pressure to do something 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.679 this time. So what they've decided to draw the line 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.360 around is these healthcare subsidies. So they're really making a 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.160 stand saying we are not going to vote for this 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:59.359 bill unless you restore these Affordable Care Act subsidies that 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.720 are set to expire at the end of the year. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.640 And the basic dynamic is you've got Republicans kind of 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.120 divided on what to do about those subsidies. I think 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.240 that's why Democrats see this as a winning issue. Not 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.200 to mention, obviously it's very popular to continue the subsidies 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.320 because if you don't, you're going to have millions of 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.240 people who ultimately will be unable to afford healthcare through 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.080 the AC exchanges, and you're going to have premiums spike 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.440 dramatically for some twenty two million Americans. So there are 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.680 a lot of Republicans, including actually Trump's polster Tony Fabrizio, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.240 who have warned about these premium spikes, saying, hey, Republicans, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.920 if you guys let this happen, this is actually going 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.840 to be a political problem for you. You have some 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.520 Republican moderates who want to extend those subsidies. Some were hardline, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.800 like fiscal hawk types who don't want to extend those subsidies, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.440 and so that's why they kind of pick this issue 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.799 for the fight because they feel like it's a popular 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.880 one and one where the magabase is divided. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.760 No, it's smart. I would I'd give it to him 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.440 as you. By the way, two ACA members here right 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.080 as small business owners, so looking for at eighteen. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.640 Pcarity money expensive thank you present drum for. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.360 That one, especially when you have a child and your 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.000 premium goes up by fifty percent and you're like, oh wow, okay, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.720 all right, now imagine having a couple of them. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.000 I can't even put myself in that headspace. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.800 But the point actually around this is I think they 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.000 backed their way into a shutdown, and that's very much 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.120 the same way that the Republicans back in twenty thirteen. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.000 And also I'm trying to remember a few of the 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.720 initial Tea party waves is look, they just want a shutdown, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:25.720 like at the end of the day, and then they 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.000 would pick the issue of which they were going to 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.360 fight and try to mobilize the base on at the 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:30.880 end of the day. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:31.920 It's like the Seinfeld thing. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.560 It's like a shutdown about nothing, but it's a shutdown 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.520 for the sake of satisfying all institutional politics. I do 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.000 really wonder though, how this rubs up against Democrats, because 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.360 they really were the party of norms and of perpetuating them. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.680 And that's still where the Senate broadly is, right like, 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.520 that's who Schumer. Schumer and a lot of his sixty five, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.080 seventy or eight year old colleagues, these are institutionalists. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.680 They don't like to see what the Republicans did. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.240 They hated Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and these new bombers. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.560 And the thing is, because we're not yet in the 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.520 post twenty twenty six period where some new blood of 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.080 some sort is going to come into the Democratic Party, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.880 who would really be rallying this. Yeah, the Republicans right now, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.600 or they're Democrats right now, are so torn. And you 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.360 see this in Schumer's comments. So here was wh already 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.200 had to say recently just yesterday on Meet the Press, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:22.040 Let's take a listen. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.240 The bottom line is very simple, Kristen. It's up to 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:29.040 them if they come into the meeting to seriously negotiate. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.520 And the reason we've been pushing for months, we've been 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.640 resolute that we need a meeting, that we need a 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.559 real negotiation. That you don't do this by one party 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.160 putting together a completely partisan bill and saying take it 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.439 or leave it. So they felt the heat. The President 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.599 at first said no member. He first said yes for 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.360 a meeting, then he said no for a meeting. It 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.240 went on a rant against Democrats, but I think they 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.640 felt the heat and they now want to sit down. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.760 But the fundamental question hasn't been answered yet, and we'll 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:57.520 see on Monday. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.640 I mean, you know, we need a kind of weak 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:01.520 in my opinion. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.080 Yeah, Well, did you see his answer when they asked 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.360 him like, oh, what are you going to do? We're 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.360 going to cover Trump threatening Portland with invasion, full force 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.400 if necessary, and they're like, what are you going to 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.360 do about this? He's like, well, I would hope there 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.120 are some Republicans like dude, and you were laying this 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.440 ount like this is really kind of the fundamental divide 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.640 between where democratic leadership is and where the base is. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.720 Leadership is still in this like sort of normal politics mode, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.679 like I'm going to reach across the aisle and we're 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.959 going to get a bipartisan deal done, and we want 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.960 to maintain the norms and institutions, and the base is like, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.440 no fucking burden down, Like even if there are consequences, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.000 even if it's risky, we want to see you fight 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.640 and even on the healthcare thing, Like what the base 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.360 would really want them to fight on is healthcare? Yes, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.040 but also you need to get your troops out of 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.880 American cities. Like the sort of fascist crackdown aspect of 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.439 the Trump administration. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.080 Is what the base is. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.640 What yah is where the base would really want them 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.800 to pick a fight. I'm underdow illusion that chucks youroomer's 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.600 going to pick a fight over Israel. But you know, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.040 those are the areas where I think the Democratic base 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.080 is most inflamed and would like to see them fight. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.200 They're like trying to be I think you said this 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.240 too cute by half. With the healthcare thing, Yes, it's 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.679 a really important issue. Okay, we're talking about millions of 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:15.920 people cost of healthcare. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.400 This is critically important. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.440 But you can also kind of see just like the 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.480 political machinations are a little too negative. Like we pull 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.760 tested this and this is what our focus groups said, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.559 and this is where we know that the mega base 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.120 and the Republican electeds are divided, and so that's why 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.960 we're picking this particular spot as well. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.480 Absolutely, we should also think back to the way the 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.439 Republicans did. I mean, look, if you want to take 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.000 a page out of political effectiveness. The Republican Party has 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.040 been very good at this over the last decade or so. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.920 The twenty thirteen shutdown was broad. It's not just the 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.440 twenty thirteen shutdown, because some of that was ACA. But 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.679 to be fair, that's where the Republican base was, right. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.360 They were like, no, we're done with Obamacare. The future 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.640 fights that the Republicans picked with Obama were all on 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.960 illegal immigration, which, by the way, the polling was not 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.600 necessarily like on their side, quote unquote. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.600 But that's where the base was. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.439 I think that's the reason why is because they had 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.040 tea party, like the Dems have still not gotten truly 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.320 smacked with reality about where their base is. Eventually, you know, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.559 after the Dave Bratt stuff with Eric Canter, they're like, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.880 all right, you know, it's a matter of political survival. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.520 They're like, this is what we have to do. Bratt 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.240 beat Canter purely on the issue of immigration. And then 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.520 obviously Trump comes in twenty sixteen wins the primary probably 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.280 based on that message more than anything. And so when 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.720 you put that together and you can also see that's 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.960 what fight and being you know, that's what fight and 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.600 with the base politics and trying to move the country. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.000 Looks like that's what a real political effective party ultimately 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.600 is all about. And so with Trump though, and this 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.160 is where the norms thing is all going to come 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.400 into play, because Trump doesn't care about norms. So let's 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.199 go and put a three up on the screen. He 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.480 just gave an interview to a CBS sixty minutes. It 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.160 was by the phone, So we're just pulling some of 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.280 the quotes. He says, quote, I just don't know how 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.559 we're going to solve this issue, Trump said. A source 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.320 close to Trump told CBS the president privately welcomes the 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.920 prospect of a shutdown because it enables him to wield 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.760 executive power to slash government programs and salaries. And so 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.120 that kind of leads into a four. We can put 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.520 that on the screen. Behind the scenes, the White House 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.520 is very happy about a shutdown. They say that they 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.800 can just use it as an excuse for mass layoffs, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.200 for deregulation, and for military deployments because you know, one 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.400 of the things with shutdowns is they always pay the troops. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.600 So it's one of those where you know, everybody pays 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:21.920 the troops. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.840 Everybody make sure the Social Security goes out, everybody else 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.880 kind of comes down. But the thing is is that 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.160 because of their extraordinary powers, as I said, the executive 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.480 under a shutdown, while technically is not supposed to be 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.240 able to do whatever it wants, it basically can do 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.400 whatever it wants and declare whoever they want essential. So 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.400 for them, they're like, oh, okay, cool, so we don't 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.920 have to run this Department of Education, we'll just do 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.600 ice the military and Social Security. They're like, good luck Democrats, right, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.480 And I mean kind of smart to be honest, because 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.280 you know, they've they borrowed that page from previous shutdowns 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.559 under Clinton and under Obama, where as they continually had 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.480 to as the executive started to grapple with what shutdowns means, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.400 they became very good at saying, all right, we're going 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:04.600 to use it for political purposes. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.240 We're going to do whatever we want. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.280 I think the Democratic response is Trump is whatever he 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.040 wants anyways, Right, that's so yeah. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.920 I mean it's funny there put that headline back up 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.160 on the screen, because it makes the point they're like layoffs, deregulation, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.760 and military deployments. He's literally already doing all of those. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.760 So that's why I think you know, the base in 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.320 particular feels like where's the threat, Like this is all 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.480 You're already doing whatever you want with your executive power. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.400 You're already acting like a king and have zero checks 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.240 on you. So this is the only bit of power 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.440 that Democrats can wield whatsoever. So that's why they're like 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.920 you have Chuckture where you have to fight, you have 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.959 to do something here, and you know, I mean, the 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.000 problem for Democrats is that their leadership is extremely weak. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.960 They're extremely poor messengers. Trump is an extremely effective and 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.280 relentless messager. And that's what the shutdown politics end up 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.720 usually boiling down to, like who can message the public better? 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.000 You know which side? 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.480 And look, the Democrats have a decent hand to play 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.559 because they can say, listen, just give us, just make 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.720 sure americans health care premiums aren't. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:11.000 Going to go up. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.800 That's it, Like that's all you have to do, and 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.800 we'll go along with your thing. Why is this so hard? 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.559 Many of you are saying you want to do this anyway? 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.440 So they have a decent plan to play. Do they 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.080 have a decent player to play that hand? 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.240 Really? Not so much. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.480 Yeah, let's go, let's go through the history of the 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.000 government shutdowns. So the most recent government shutdown was the 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.960 one I believe under what prolonged government shutdown. There's been 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.320 mini shutdowns, you know, twenty four hours or whatever, they 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.080 didn't really matter. But in January twenty eighteen there was 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.120 a three day shutdown. That's when they did a filibuster 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.680 over DACA. But ultimately they caved, so you could see 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.800 that it wasn't particularly successful. The big one was the 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.960 thirty five day shutdown. I have the timeline right now 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.000 in front of me. That was December twenty two to 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.080 twenty eighteen. I remember because Trump was in the White 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.160 House all alone, and he was like, I'm all alone 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.080 here in the White House. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.440 Democrats, He's like, please wild times. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.960 That one again was over border security, and even though 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.960 Trump dragged it out for a month, he ultimately cave. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.600 Because what happens is and this is all about timing 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.400 as well. The longer it goes, the executive seems to 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.160 get some of the blame, even with good politics or 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.320 good messaging, just because people are get sick of no 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.440 government services or you know, here in Washington, I mean, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.280 we feel it the most right because we have all 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.720 these federal government workers but in general, like the federal 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.400 government is the biggest employer. You never know, we could listen, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.600 we're heading into hurricane season, like you really want them 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.280 to shut down with her, It could be politically disastrous 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.280 for the administration prior to that. So this was a 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.920 twenty thirteen shutdown. That was the ACA one that was 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.640 sixteen days, and then obviously President Clinton had a twenty 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.080 one day shutdown over with Gangridge. I'm not as familiar 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.800 with the details of that one. I've read a little 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.440 bit about it, but broadly it looked like Clinton was 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.720 the victor in that shutdown. In the twenty thirteen shutdown, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.640 I think it's pretty unambiguous that Obama was the broad 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.280 victor on the politics there. If you think with Trump 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.440 he was definitely the loser against Schumer and against Pelosi, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.280 there's no honest assessment because he literally gave up nothing 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.920 after thirty five days. So that's what I mean. We 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.200 just don't know where these things will go. I think 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.240 it'd be smart for the Demoscrats shutdown. I mean, look, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.400 it's not only where the base wants it, but also 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.920 because the base is already pissed off at Trump for 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.600 like extraordinary action and he does it. Anyways, it's like okay, whatever, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.400 I mean. Look, it's kind of in a bi directional. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.720 The Republicans base would also love it too. They're like, great, you. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.760 Know, but now we get to do whatever we want. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.400 So I don't see as much and I don't know 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.400 right now, and put my money on Dems caving at 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.120 some point, either immediately. I don't know if they'll cave immediately, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.520 but a seventy two hour shutdown and then they're like, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.480 oh my god, Trump just fired fifteen thousand employees. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:48.160 You could see it. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.200 One thing to mention about the previous shutdown that you said, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.600 you know, Trump loss and Pelosi and Schumer won. Pelosi 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.960 and Schumer Pelosi is a much better tactician, much fiarsier, 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.119 much better messenger, think and feel however you want about her. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.480 She is a much better politician than Chuck Schumer is. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.640 I think that much is totally clear. So this now 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.400 resting on the shoulders of Chuck Schumer and like kind 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.160 of King Jeffreys is like, shouldn't be too confidence inspiring 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.000 here in terms of, you know, have the Democratic base 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.400 being able to pull off something that approaches a victory. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.240 The other thing that's we're saying is let's say that 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.880 that we're wrong, that is actually Trumpet case. That's like, oh, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.600 you know what, I want to make sure everybody has 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.680 that healthcare. We're going to do a great thing for 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.760 the people. We're going to make sure everybody is healthcare. Right, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.240 let's say that he does that. There is nothing that 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.439 would require him to keep that deal, because you just 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.919 had a Supreme Court once again shadow docket ruling that 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.720 essentially allowed them to go forward with what's called a 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:53.359 pocket recision, meaning that Congress can authorize let's say, the 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.080 ACAA subsidy extension, and then he can just decide not 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.760 to do it. The Supreme Court now hasn't ruled officially 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.399 fully on the merits of that, but until they do, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.120 and God only knows when that will happen, he can 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.720 do whatever he wants. He is not obligated. And this 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.639 is completely different. Okay, power the person is supposed to 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.320 be with Congress. Supreme Court has at least for now 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.640 greenlit him being able to back out of whatever deal 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.280 that he strikes here and say, now you know what, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.000 I changed my mind. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.400 I don't want to do the healthcare subsidies. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.640 Ultimately, so that's an important dynamic to keep in mind 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.680 here as well as we move into these negotiations. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.200 Yeah, let's put a five on the screen. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.119 I've seen this a lot of progressive Democrats passing this 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:33.679 one around. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.040 Oh my god, So you can't make it up. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.119 In the midst of shutdown planning, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:43.000 circulated an invitation for a quote NAPA retreat. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.240 On over the wine Cave is back. 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.840 Yeah, I was gonna say the wine caves, wine cave. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.359 So the government shutdown. The retreat would fall on what 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.240 might be day twelve of the shutdown. The itinerary features 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.280 accommodations at the Hotel U ten Bill with a resort 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.919 and spa that extends a Tuscan European vibe, and a 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.680 wine tour and didn't her at the Staglan Family Vineyards 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.520 and emidst Its wine Caves. The plan for the luxury 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.240 trip comes amidst Trump administration's threat of mashed firings for 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.240 federal workers. A Democrat briefed on the event tells US 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.960 is also slated to include a representative, Hailey Stevens, who 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.080 is campaigning for a state's open Senate seat. As a 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.879 gritty daughter of the Midwest. So and that's important with 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.520 these Michigan Dems. Slotkin recently talking about remember when she 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.560 was on Colbert after our show and she's like, its 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.560 just corn fed folks. No, they're not okay, like CIA 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:35.639 people are not corn fed folks. Well bear Yale Harvard, yeah, graduate, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:38.440 you know, yeah. 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:38.879 Just stop. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.200 Well the other thing, that's just a little note there 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.120 is So this is a d SCC. 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:43.840 So that's a. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:49.119 Democratic Senatorial campaign committee, and they invited Hailey Stevens, who's 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.879 running in the Democratic primary for that Michigan Senate seat. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.920 But she, you know, she's up against two other significant 0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:00.199 contenders that would be abdulal Sayed and Mallory mcmarrow. This 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.399 is also the d SC putting their some on the 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.920 scale for miss Haley Stevens, who, by the way, has 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.600 received some five million dollars in Israel lobby funding. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.919 So just so you know, yeah, that's I don't know, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.359 Dems need to get their act together with the base, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.240 like you guys need to fight and I know, look 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.840 it's coming from me, just you know whatever, But I 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.280 don't see like at this point, the Tea Party Action 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.879 people were barnstorming the country in this point in the 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.760 Obama administration, they were everywhere. Yes, the cope is always 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.120 oh but that was all billionaire funded. Oh yeah, there's 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.000 no Democrats who found the billionaires Like, come on, like, 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:36.240 what are you guys doing? Uh? 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.879 Yeah, but the billionaires don't want this, why not like 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.159 what they don't want the Yeah, they don't want the 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.600 you know, pro the like pro Palestine that you know, 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.280 tax the rich. That's where the Enterry Party and that's 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:50.360 not where the billionaires are. 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.439 And get your shit together because at this point, like 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.000 you need to organize, you need to do something, because 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.320 you are not currently on track to deliver the type 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.440 of success that the Tea Party was able to because 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.520 that was about money plus grassroots. That's ultimately, and I 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.680 think the grassroots. Everyone always tries to say the Tea 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.320 Party was AstroTurf. Sorry it wasn't. It was like actual 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.840 mass outrage. Yes, there was a lot of money backing 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.280 in that helped, you know all that stuff. This is 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.000 the truth with all grassroots style movements. There's money in 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.480 all kinds of special interest groups. It's only when you 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.639 have an issue that actually resonates are you able to 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.040 do anything. So if the Democratic base does not going 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.399 to have their billionaires, then do something about it. Like 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.760 you need to form your political action committees, get out there, 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.320 create the litmus test for candidates, actually just hammer the 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.240 shit out of them. Create and find your slate of 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.800 issues and where you and then you have to hold 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.680 the line. You're like, if you do not support doctor issue, 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.720 we will not vote for you. Like if you do 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.760 not commit immediately to making sure that we're no longer 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.800 with Chuck Schumer, that we're going to defund Trump or whatever, 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.879 pick your issue, then you're not going to do anything. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.560 Because in the absence these Hailey Stevens people can always 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.600 come around. This is what this is what the pro 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.440 Republican establishment politicians we do put fighting against Obama and 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.440 they're like, ooh yeah, but we need you to fight 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.080 against Obama on our terms. You don't just get to 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:09.320 say fighting Obama. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:09.960 Same thing here. 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.720 You can't just say, oh, drump is bad. It's like, 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.080 is that it right? Because that's the easiest possible slate. 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.119 I don't think the dums have gotten their act together period. 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.919 Obviously not going to come from the national level, but 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:21.639 I don't even see it at the grassroots level, like 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.200 people need to show up. You know, there's some campaign 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:28.320 canaries in the coal mine. You've got Zoron and yeah, 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.680 he's an extraordinary politician, very just different circus circumstances, very 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.040 very liberal city and base. Like the what made the 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.879 Tea Party extraordinary was we're going into the blue dogs 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.880 and we're blowing them out. You know, we're going into 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:46.320 the primaries, We're primary we're making their life hell. Eric 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.080 Canter spent more on steak here at a steakhouse in 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.840 Washington than Dave Bratt spent on his entire campaign, Like 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.280 you got to fight back against that. 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.280 Yeah, I hear you on all of that, and I 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.160 do want to see more. But I will say also 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.960 with Dave Bratt, it's not like you would have said, 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.440 oh there's this organized like Dave brattmoth. 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.119 It came out of nowhere. 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.199 And there are a lot of things like that that 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.680 are happening. So just to name a few, obviously Zoron, obviously, 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.560 Graham Plattner we already named, checked Abdul said, who are 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.840 drawing really hard lines and saying we're not going to 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.240 vote for Chuck Schumer. We are you know, pro Palestine. 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.800 This is genocide, like going hard. You also have Corey 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.600 Busch has jumped back into the Royals, Yeah, against Wesley Bell, 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.240 who's one of the top like APAC recipients in Congress 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.600 and constantly shilling for them, just signed a letter against 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.240 recognizing a Palestinian state. You've got Shoycott Chakrabadi, who was 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.160 AOC's chief of staff, who's running against Nancy Pelosi. Actually 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.840 don't think Pelosi has officially announced, yes that she's running again, 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.560 but he just released some internal polling that showed him 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.800 actually firing pretty competitively with her, which is a that 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.840 is a shocking turn of events that anyone could even 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.520 be in the race. So and there are there are 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.399 more many that I don't even know their names. So 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.320 you do have these dynamics playing in primaries. You're right, 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.280 and I ran in that twenty twenty twenty ten cheap 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:01.640 party year, so I can tell you. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.040 For sure the energy was real. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:03.520 Right. 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.000 There was funding you know from the Todd There's no 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.479 doubt about it. But there was also a genuine like 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.000 backlash to Obama that was being expressed at that time. 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.320 There's no doubt about it. 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:14.040 Here. 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:15.480 You have also that. 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:19.800 Genuine Democratic based backlash, but somewhat more in CO eight 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.480 and less sort of like organized than it was now. 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.439 It's worth saying too, it is still pretty early, like 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.439 we're still you know, the formation of primary fields is 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:34.119 happening right now, and part of why Schumer feels like 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.480 he has to do this, which is not something he 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.080 wants to do again. He feels like he has to 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.040 because he feels the heat from his base. There's no 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.639 doubt that if he runs again and AOC runs against 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.280 him in a primary, like he's going to lose. And 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.760 he's aware of that polling. I'm sure he's aware of 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.240 the way that people perceive him and how they don't 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.920 see him, and because he hasn't as being any sort 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.120 of a fighter, and so even the fact that they're 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.840 picking this fight is an expression of how they are 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.440 fling pressured by their own base. 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.600 Very well said I just to people, don't if you're 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.520 too young and you don't remember the Tea Party. 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:07.479 Here's what happened. 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.439 Plus sixty three GOP seats plus six GOP seats in 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.960 the Senate, plus six GOP governors, the biggest midterm victory 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.240 for a party since nineteen thirty eight. You have that 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.439 same type of energy if you want it at the 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.720 wrong level, right, And I didn't even get into that 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.320 the state leg thousand state legislators, it. 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.680 Was massive, and which that the terms were redistricting, which 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.960 ended up being you know, it continues to be consequential. 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.160 Very well said. And that's my point is I don't 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.199 I just don't see that. Yeah, here, okay, I have 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.879 it here twenty state legislative chambers which flipped, which was 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.960 specifically important for the twenty ten census for redistricting. That's 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.240 what power actually looks like. I just don't see it yet. 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.800 It could be right, it could come. You can have 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.160 some organic but there's a big difference, let's say, between 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.080 a twenty five point swing and the sixty points swing. 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.280 Like to make it extraordinary and to just like punch 0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.920 the administration like if you want it in the face. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.240 But I don't know right now, there's not enough seriousness 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.480 of taking control. I think it largely has to do 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.480 with the establishment and the way that they think because fundamentally, 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.359 like to their money, bottom line issue set, et cetera. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.800 It really is an existential threat. But you got to 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.600 keep in mind it was it was very similar for 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.679 the Republicans too, Like for a lot of these establishment Republicans, 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.520 the way that they did business back in two thousand 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.840 and nine was completely disrupted and destroyed. Like you can 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.440 only teach them by hitting them. There's no other way. 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.480 So we'll see. I don't know I personally again, I 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.359 think that thems are going to blink. I just think 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.240 that they're so married to like the federal government as 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.280 an idea that the mere prospect of mass firing, like 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.120 you're gonna put it against up. 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:42.919 You know, you're gonna put it. 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.280 Past Trump to fire twenty five thirty forty fifty thousand 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.520 workers like he will, right, and they're going to freak 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.399 out about that. That's what a big part of the 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.480 twenty eighteen shutdown, part of the reason the Trump cave. 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:54.840 But the big Democratic message was. 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.840 All of these federal government employees are not getting their 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:57.880 paychecks right. 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.080 It's devastating. 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.440 So that there's like a religious marriage between the bureaucrat 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.879 and the Democratic Party that I'm not sure at the 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.600 institutional level, I don't know if they're willing to stomach 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.000 you know, what it takes to actually go go through. 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:11.400 No. 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.760 I think, like I said, I don't think Schumer wants 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:15.720 to do this fight. He's forced into it, and so 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.920 I think probably his plan is like, let me put 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:23.439 up some sort of show of resistance and then once, 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.320 you know, I get credit with the base for having 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.679 allowed to shut down to go through or stood up 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.800 to Trump or whatever, then I'm going to find some 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.439 way to walk back from this ledge. 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.000 That would be my guess of his plan. 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.920 Don't you think a seventy two hour cave is worse 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.840 than just shut down a cave in just cave? 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.080 I don't think he I don't even have to say 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.160 I don't think. I know that these Democrats are totally 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.280 out of touch with where the base is and what 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.280 they want and how sort of radicalized they've become in 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.080 this moment. And part of their radicalization is about what 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.040 Trump is doing, and part of it is about the 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.760 failures of their own media apparatus and their leadership. And 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.240 I say I know that they're out of touch with 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.120 this because in particular, you know, one of the manifestations 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.240 of this frustration is obviously on Israel, and you still 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.560 see them all out there trying to find some middle 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:14.520 ground and tiptoe around it. Hakeem Jeffries still not endorsings around. 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.080 I mean, it's completely insane, and it's like you all 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.800 have no idea how loathed you are by your own 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.919 Democratic base. I mean, Zoran outperformed to keep Jeffreys by 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.440 like twenty points or something ridiculous in his own district, 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.480 and I don't think they've internalized that. And I'm not 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.040 sure what it's going to take for them to internalize that. 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.400 I don't know what their Dave Bratt moment is going 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.800 to be, but one of those is coming where they're 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.960 going to realize like, oh, we we really are in 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.520 trouble here with our own people. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:43.800 You know why. 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.960 I also because politics should matter, you know, the expression 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.680 of your voters should actually matter. And you know, the 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.480 one thing I think you can say about the Republicans 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.400 is like they mostly do what their base kind of 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.760 wants them to do, and they don't really care they 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.800 do about about you know, the media or whatever, and 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.080 there's just too much institutional elite worship and fundamentally, like 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.680 that's where my war is with these you know, the 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.760 kind of that bipartisan Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer type style leadership. 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.280 These people need to go they're largely the ones responsible 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.360 for even the reason like where we are where we 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.640 are today. So yeah, I would like to see them 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.480 be punished and punished badly, And because the voice of 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.120 people actually should matter, and political leadership is supposed to 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.480 be broadly reflective, and there's actually no way to solve 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.960 existential questions if you don't actually tackle them, and if 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.480 you just kind of put your blinders on and look 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.560 past it and pretend that it's all fake. 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:36.360 So we'll see. 0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.000 I am an accelerationist though, So that's me, all right, 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.440 I've always been contradictions. 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.560 I think that's good. Let's get to the shootings. 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.280 Okay, very grim situation unfolding over the weekend for separate 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.960 mass shootings. Let me give you the top line for 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.840 all four, and then we can take a look at 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.240 the I guess the most deadly one, which was a 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.760 Mormon a shooting at a Mormon church. So four dead 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.600 and eight wounded there. Perpetrator was also killed in gunfight 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.800 with cops. You had two killed and five injured in 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.720 a casino in Texas. You had one dead and others 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:17.040 injured in a neighborhood in Pennsylvania. And you had a 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.000 gunman who killed three people and injured five others at 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:24.560 a pack North Carolina waterfront bar. That suspect has been 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.400 taken into custody. So I'll give you some details on 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:28.920 all of these, but let's go ahead and start with 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.040 this Mormon church shooting, which was absolutely horrific. Can put 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.840 these images up on the screen. You can see the 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.120 church was not only so a pickup truck rammed into 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:44.880 this church. The killer then shot indiscriminately at people. We 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.160 don't have a lot of details about the exact sequence 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.280 of how this unfolded. Law enforcement is also saying there 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:55.240 were IED's which were recovered from the scene. As I 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.960 said before, the death toll has now risen to four 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.400 killed an eight wound. Did this was a Mormon church 0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.800 that was in Michigan, so truly horrifying series of events. 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:06.120 Here. 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.080 Let me go ahead and show you some images of 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.120 the truck that rammed into the church. 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:14.600 Here, you can see it there. 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.240 People noted right away, of course the American flags in 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.520 the truck bed, and then also there was an a 0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:24.960 rock War veteran license plate on that truck. And sure 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.000 enough we actually put before up on the screen. It 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.680 turns out that the alleged will say killer here who 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.040 also was, like I said, killed by law enforcement in 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.040 a gun battle pretty quickly after this all unfolded. By 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:38.680 the way, law enforcement is getting a lot of credit 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.720 for their rapid response preventing even additional loss of life 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.600 from this horrific situation. 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.720 So looks like this was in a rock war. 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.400 Veteran Thomas Sandford I did as the gunman who attacked 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.960 this church, killing too and setting it a blaze. Don't 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.360 know a ton about him. He does have a young 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.600 child roughly ten years old. He is married, served in 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.480 a rock for I think roughly four years overseas. Let's 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.320 go ahead and take a listen to a little bit 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.000 of what law enforcement had to say. 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.200 This is B three during this incident. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.920 What we know right now is it a forty year 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.240 old suspect from Burton. He's a male. He drove his 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.880 vehicle through the front doors of the church. He then 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:25.240 exited his vehicle, firing several rounds at individuals within the church. 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:32.000 Ten gunshot victims have been transported to local hospitals at 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:38.480 this time, including one who has been deceased. Officers who 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:42.840 were trained immediately responded to the area. One was a 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.920 DNR officer, and then one was a Gramblank Township officer 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.840 where they met the suspect and they engaged in gunfire 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:56.600 with that particular individual, neutralizing that suspect. And that suspect 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.840 is no longer with us. As I said, it is 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.760 a forty year old male burn. 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.280 So, as I've announced, are we have no idea about 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.040 the motive here. Of course, everyone quick looked to see 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.400 what this guy's political affiliation was. He appears to be Republican, 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.600 but it also appears like this is someone who was 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.240 a veteran of one of our wars who apparently lost 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.560 his mind. I mean, they're starting to talk to people 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.200 who knew him, haven't been able to press, hasn't been 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:21.600 able to get in touch with the family, Like they're 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.320 not responding on no surprise there. But the people they 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.200 were able to speak to were like, I would never 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.440 in a million years think that this guy would do that. 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.400 They're one thing they're looking at. I have no idea 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.160 whether this is related or not. But the day before 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.120 this shooting, an attack occurred. Russell Nelson, the oldest ever 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.040 president of the Mormon Church, died at the age of 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.160 one hundred and one and then this is obviously an 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.560 attack on the Mormon Church. Police are looking into whether 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.440 that's linked in any sort of a weird way, but 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.560 it appears that this is, you know, someone who was mentally. 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.800 I interview posted late last night of a local politician 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.680 who was canvassing the area and he actually interacted with 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.360 the suspect for his testimony, and what he said is 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.160 that when he listened anybody who's involved in public life, 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.320 and you and I have been in this situation before, 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.840 you get to meet the bottom two percent of the 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.759 population who are like mentally ill and schizophrenic, who have 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.520 kind of crazy ideas, And he apparently cornered this local 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.319 politician and had that classic side of mental illness. We're 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.520 on the surface, perfectly nice guy. Within two minutes is 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.120 talking about how LDS is the anti Christ the Mormons, 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.719 So you know, it looks like a listen. I mean, 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.840 the Mormons are classic target, unfortunately for a lot of 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.160 people involved in like these wars over Christian theology. And 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.160 it's very easy target in particular for somebody if you're 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.560 mentally ill, and you're if you're steeped in all of 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.400 this and look pure speculation, but you know, it doesn't. 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.360 It's not a far leap to say somebody who's served 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.040 in Iraq, you know, if you look at the suicide rate, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.560 mental illness rate, and the effect of what all that takes, 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.319 not to mention, I mean, didn't seem to be doing 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.920 particularly well, like was living in like substandard conditions. So 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.560 you put all that together with what happened, and it's 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.279 very you know, it's very very tragic incident. Especially the 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.799 Mormons always have been targets for people, for people like this, 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.840 and it's really sad. I mean, you know, it's just 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.840 these are people who are gathering some of the people 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.440 who were shot, literal children. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.240 It's Sunday. 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.960 It's supposed to be like a sacriscancic place. So it's 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.000 just it's a horrific tragedy. But it's one of those 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.960 where when you put it together broadly, and I unfortunately 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.680 I was not here for the ice shooting. 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:29.600 You guys did a good job. 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.640 But the point around it is just look at these guys. 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:38.319 It's like a rampant mental illness throughout the country, and 0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.920 in the veteran case. I mean, look, we all agree, 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.400 I think that nobody does nearly enough. It's highly inefficient. 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.279 Even though the VA spends a ridiculous amount of money 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.360 per patient, the services and the administration that they do 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.000 is it's it's a disaster. Most of the veterans I 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.640 speak to almost always have a substandard experience. It's very 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.880 easy for guys like this to slip through the cracks, 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.200 and it's obvious. I think it's pretty obvious to me 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.919 that that's probably what happened here. You know, four eight 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.520 some of the worst year serve in Iraq than you have. 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.040 You know, a prolonged period of time, mental illness can 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.439 happen very quickly. It can be exacerbated, as we've talked 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:18.960 about at length about drug use online, just periods of 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.799 time you know, you can snap and the slide through 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.040 that is not a surprise. And the fact that this 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.799 local politician is saying, I canvas this guy and within 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.560 minutes he's telling me about how anti christ nailds yeas, 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.000 it gives us a little bit of an insight. 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.920 Right yeah, Well, and that wasn't the only murderer shooting 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.280 mass shooting by a rock War veteran over this weekend. 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.360 So we can put this next B five up on 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.319 the screen. This was at the North Carolina waterfront. So 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.839 they say a lone gunman killed three people, injured five 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.040 others at a pac North Carolina waterfront bar late Saturday. 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.759 Police are describing me as a highly premeditated attack. This 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.200 guy who now calls himself Nigel max Edge, she changed 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.640 his name to that, who's forty years old, detained by 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.399 the Coastguard, charge with recount first degree murder, five counts 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.440 of attempted murder, five counts of assault with the deadly 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:08.839 weapon another and he's another veteran of our war on 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.960 terror foreign wars. So you know, we don't know that 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.799 much about this individual yet what he was doing and 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.160 saying police are calling this premeditated. We don't have a 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.759 motive for this one either, but again fits with you know, 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:29.600 the pattern of Look, we send these you know, mostly 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.880 men overseas and have been commit these horrific acts that 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.560 haunt them. They come back home, they have very little 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.040 like support in terms of reintegration into society, and then 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.120 downstream from that you have, you know, horrific acts like this. 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.200 This is not too like I'm not trying to like 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.120 smear merchant veterans whatsoever. 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.000 Quite the customary their fault they're reporting a disastrous situation. 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.719 Yeah, I'm saying that we should be. We should pay 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:57.080 a lot. 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:58.759 More attention than First of all, we shouldn't get into 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.360 these foreign re wars and an outside of these individual 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:06.480 violent incidents, there is a long term societal correlation of 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.600 after you have a war, when people come back, there's 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.400 a spike in violence, there's a spike in crime. Not 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.239 to mention that, then you you know you have in 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.600 our culture, it's a mass gun culture. One of the 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.480 things that are in common with all of the mass 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.960 shootings we've been talking about lately is all of these 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.879 men were very proficient with firearms and been around them, 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.440 you know, highly trained on them, et cetera. And you know, 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.560 that's one of the dynamics here as well. But you 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.800 know what's interesting is there's been very little journalistic interest 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.919 in the question of what the blowback has been from 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.799 what we did to these individuals when we sent them 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.879 overseas to for you know, the Iraq and Afghanistan war 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.520 in particular, I had to go back to There was 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.799 a two thousand and eight New York Times investigation and 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.640 they identified one hundred and twenty one homicides that were 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.520 linked to Iraq and Afghanistan veterans from two thousand and 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.560 one to two thousand and eight, and they found that 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.040 was an eighty nine percent increase in such cases during 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:06.439 wartime compared to before we went to war in a rock, 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.799 so they were able to establish somewhat of a at 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.640 least correlation and an uptick. And you know, you had 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.879 similar instances after the Vietnam War as well that were 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:20.000 you know, tracked closely too. So you have mass you know, 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.080 mental illness exacerbated in the veterans population because of what 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.719 they've seen and what they've done and what they've been 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.680 through and the total lack of support and complete neglect. 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.080 And this is also not to let off the hook 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.600 these killers, by the way, or just analyzing here the 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.279 societal trends, and you know, we end up with this 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.920 explosion of violence and looking around and going why does 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.600 this only happen with us? I don't think it should 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.799 be a mystery when you consider the combination of a 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:50.600 combustible gun culture, rampant untreated mental illness, and a society 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.480 that's kind of coming apart at the same of. 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.360 Course, I don't think you can deny any of that. 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.440 I mean, I know the gun culture thing is one 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.080 of those where people really latch onto and I get it. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.080 But you know, if you look at it practically, like 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.440 we've talked about the Charlie Kirk shooting at nauseum is 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.920 a bolt action rifle. It's never getting banned under quote 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.800 unquote It's it's not going to be banned under even 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.560 the most extreme liberal gun control at all. 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.000 I am fairly hopeless about any sort of gun control 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.880 measure that would really deal with the problem for exactly 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.200 the reasons you're stating. But in analyzing all of these 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.600 things and why we have these mass shootings in other countries, 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.360 don't you have to name it as a fashion because 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.160 I mean, part of why, yeah, and part of why 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.440 Tyler Robinson is able to allegedly take that shot is 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.640 because he's he's raised in that culture. He's very comfortable 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.720 with weapons, he knows what he's doing, he's a proficient marksman, 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.440 et cetera. Yeah, So that's I'm just pointing to those 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.560 fact think, obviously these are military trains. 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.120 No one's going to deny that having four hundred million 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:49.840 guns in the country does not make it unique. I 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.400 think it's just frankly a constant. It's not going to change. 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.000 And I mean, we've had a lot of debates here. 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.520 I don't really think it should change. But and you know, 0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.880 if to echo what Charlie Kirk once said, when you 0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:02.520 have a nation with the Second Amendment, you do accept 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.080 a certain level of violence that is not going to 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.719 be seen in other societies. 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.080 That is a simple constant. 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.200 Now, of course, you know, everyone always liked to post 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.040 that as some sort of own It's like, well, you know, 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.239 if you have other countries they don't have like even 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.840 close they have, you're worried about authoritarianism and fascism and 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.880 all that. In America, It's like, well, look at a 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.080 lot of other countries which are Western but with no guns. 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:23.560 It's very very different in terms. 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.640 Of their culture and the level of subservience that those 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.280 people put up with from the government. 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.880 So that's part of what the check is supposed to be. 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.960 Now, all kinds of debates about AR fifteen's and you know, magazines, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:35.880 et cetera, most of which are think it's silly and 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.080 broadly doesn't work. But dealing with what we were dealing 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.520 with where we are right now, the veteran piece, the 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.880 mental illness piece. But also look, I mean I was 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.759 not able to join for that Ice shooting, but I'm 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.040 thank you for bringing up on my behalf. Drug use 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.960 and weed use was a big part of it, and 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.479 everybody just wants to move past it and listen, it's one, 0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.040 it's not all of it. But oh, it just turns 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.480 out that the ice shooters quote obsessed with weed. I've 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.359 been trying to tell people that the reflections of what 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:09.680 we see from legalized marijuana, from just this culture of degeneracy. 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.759 Turn on football. You know, I've been watching football this 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.879 season because I can't leave my house from the bait. 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:18.440 Everything is just Rby's gambling and booze. It's like, oh, 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.239 do we do anything else in this country other than 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.960 get fat as shit and watch TV and drink alcohol. 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.440 Apparently that's not what anyone and the few spare bucks 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.920 they should probably save you're going to put on your 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.640 shitty parlay, which are one hundred percent going to lose. 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.960 It's like an opiate of the masses, quite literally, and 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.120 that leads to a lot of downstream hopelessness. 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:39.640 I talked about this with gambling. 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.840 If you look at the data legalized gambling and in particular, 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.759 when a home team loses, the data tells us that 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.640 domestic violence goes up. That's what we're dealing with here, 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.680 and it out put the actual like money and stakes 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.640 and all that. Part of the population in a three 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.680 one hundred and thirty million people, one percent is a 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.200 lot of people. That's millions of people. They're gonna go crazy. 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.160 That's part of the issue. And everyone's like, well, just 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.239 because one percent is going to do it badly, It's 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.080 like no, but sometimes the one percent is so bad 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.440 that we actually should consider what the you know, societal 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.400 norms and all this this discussion around it. Like with alcohol, 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.640 most people can drink responsibly. One out of seven people 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.040 canot drink responsibly. It causes all kinds of crazy downstream effects. 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.600 Are we willing to accept hundreds of thousands of duys 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.399 and debts and drunk driving et me? Not really. 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:28.720 I think we should do a lot more. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.080 To actually reduce alcohol consumption or the health effects obesity. 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.080 Well, we'd have done more than anything to reduce alcohol consumption. 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.319 Okay, yeah, oh fantastic, it's so great, But now we 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.279 just have what violence skits those who are shooting iced detainees, 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.560 what a great trade that we all both should go down. 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.799 So that's not going There are parts of what you're 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.080 saying that I agree with, and I think, you know, 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.799 I view it from you know, from a leftist lens 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.239 of First of all, addiction is very profitable, right, That's 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.560 why the food and the algorithms and the gamble, like 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.440 everything is set up to addict you and keep you 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.359 locked into whatever that thing is. So that's number one. 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:07.880 And you know, I see a lot of these things 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:13.440 as being downstream from the policy and societal choices. So, 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.560 you know, I don't know, like the ice shooter, I 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.520 don't know that his weed use was related. It could 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:25.040 also be that's attempt at self medication is often the case. 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:25.880 That's not self medication. 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.200 Then if you're taking something that literally makes a certain 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.200 percent of his users go violent skitzo, then it's not medication. 0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.560 Sorry, I'm not saying it's like effective self but that's 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.120 that is what a lot of people who you know 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:43.200 struggle with, like weed addiction. They feel it is self medicating. 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.520 They're trying to check out of a life that feels 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.799 horrific to them. And so in any case, to say 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.839 like the weed is the cause of the violence. Well, 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.399 the weed could be a correlation because you have someone 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.800 who's struggling with mental illness and isn't getting treated and 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.839 they're treating themselves. And that's what I'm trying to point out. 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.120 In any case, with these two dudes, we don't have 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.720 any sort of wead connection that we're. 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.160 Aware obviously, so I think it's going to come out. 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.640 But you know, if you like, there's a big temptation 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.640 to sort of draw a circle around all these things 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:14.240 and try. 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.680 To see because we've had this. 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.080 Rash of them, and try to tell a story about it, 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.399 you know, some very natural human impulse. And it could 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.399 be that there is no real story to tell about 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.400 all of these disparate shootings and murders. But if I 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.600 had to try to tell a story, you know, they 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.839 all seem to spring out of sort of the the 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:37.160 societal ills that we're struggling with, right, disaffected young men, 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:42.920 political extremism, the blowback from our endless you know, wars, 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.799 and what we subjected you know, these young men and 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.359 women to when we sent them overseas to fight and 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.960 die in these like base in moral, pointless wars that 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.200 only made things worse. All of those sort of chickens 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.200 are coming home to roost is what it feels like 0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:01.600 right now. And you know, to add one that'll you know, 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.560 serve some of your your points. There was also put 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.840 B six up on the screen. There was also a 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.960 shooting at this casino in Texas. 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:09.560 This one. 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:14.200 We really have no idea what the this is Korean 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.360 Jones thirty four, what the motivation was, what's. 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:17.759 Going on here? 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.920 I don't have any more information for you, but you know, 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.359 you could imagine what might have been going on. Why 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.200 someone would be angry at a casino. You know, that's 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.799 certainly a possibility. And then did we put B five 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.920 B up just so people could see the picture of 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.920 the Yeah, this is the guy that's accused of murdering 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:40.360 the people at the North Carolina waterfront. Now his story 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:44.400 in terms of his service, he was actually injured, I 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.759 think shot four times in a friendly fire incident and 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.960 suffered severe you know, like brain damage. 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:53.919 Because of this. 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.600 He was actually, as it says here, he once escored 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.680 in this American Idol Star to the Country Music a 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.000 Wards because he was you know, sort of like a 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.880 minor cause to lab because of the injuries that he 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.879 had suffered, et cetera. And then after that you can 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.839 just imagine like a sort of downward spiral and how 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.319 you I mean, I can't really imagine how you end 0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.320 up in this situation where you're murdering people, but you 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.000 can certainly imagine a downward spiral for this. No one 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.840 who is already was suffering with this brain injury. 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:25.520 We're not absolving any of these people. 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.080 We're showing like we're trying to look at the on 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.040 the gambling point. 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.120 I mean, look, Vegas. 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:33.840 Anybody who lives in Vegas will back me up on 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.680 this because I've spoken with people and I was telling 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:37.560 you guys about it. The amount of suicides and Vegas 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.920 parking lots and hotel rooms is shocking. The LVPD and 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:42.960 others mostly try to cover it up because they don't 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.560 want to affect tourism. But the amount of violence, as 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.960 I just talked about, domestic violence when people miss their 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.719 parlays and they end up beating their wives, lots of 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.680 alcohol use also used to alcohol and weed use combined 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.880 and shocking people start to commit crazy crime. 0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:58.520 Same thing. 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:02.280 You know, there's just something about people who get driven 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:03.920 to the brink. I've seen it, have you ever been 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.480 to a casino and you see somebody who is gambling 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.640 out of literal like within with something a look on 0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.000 their face of like absolute sheer desperation. 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:13.600 It's like, bro, you got to get out of here. 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:14.360 What are you doing? 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:18.439 But you know, instead, what does the casino do. That's 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.360 the most profitable customer, right, Not the guy who's just 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:24.120 sitting there betting the past line having some fun. This 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.759 guy who's just hoping for the big one and then 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.200 ends up losing their entire paycheck. Okay, we don't know 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.719 all of the circumstance, but yes, violence in casino. These 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.480 people have security and all that for a reason, because 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.560 people are crazy. And that's just my final psa here 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.040 on gambling, because I was just looking. Fifty two percent 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.240 of betters in the US, which is some hundred million 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.720 people have now gambled more than fifty dollars per month 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.960 in this NFL season. That is quite literally statistically, if 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.640 you're watching this in your medium household income, that's your margin, 0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.600 all right, which is crazy in a country like today, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.400 but six hundred dollars per year of your after tax. 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.440 Income is quite literally your safety margin. 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.160 So do you really want to be blowing that to 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.719 a company which you know Dave Ramsey I recently saw 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:07.960 him say this. He goes, these people are buying the 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.720 most expensive advertising literally in the history of the world. 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.600 You think they're doing that with charity dollars. It's your money, 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:19.640 all right, And so in the meantime, people just get addicted, 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.480 you know, to the thrill. It has the highest rate 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.480 of suicidal ideation of any addiction, more so than heroin addicts, 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.960 more so than everyone else. It's the easiest one to 0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.600 cover up, right, everybody's It's like the keeping Up with 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.600 the Joneses thing. You have no idea how financed the 0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.960 cars are in the driveway, and then there's a silent 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.040 life of desperation in the back and then people just break. 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.120 So stay away from it. 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.399 That's all I can tell you, especially if you have kids, 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:43.960 please please keep them away. 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:44.439 It's bad. 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.759 It's permeating everything in our culture. All right, Let's get 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:53.280 to TikTok, shall we. Prime Minister bb nets on Yahoo 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:56.600 is here in Washington for this week. He will be 0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.279 having an unprecedented fourth visit to the White House. 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:01.960 Congratulations to him. 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.960 But while in the United States for the United Nations 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.800 General Assembly, meeting. After having a mass walkout while his speech, 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.200 he took some time out of his busy day to 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.760 meet with US content creators, specifically to brief them about 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:20.040 the propaganda war over Israel. He was asked specifically, how 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:24.319 should Americans or how should American pro Israel forces fight 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.800 back against the rising tide of what they call anti Semitism, 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.359 And here he now speaks about how one of the 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.920 most important things is the new purchase of TikTok. 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:35.040 Here's what he had to say. 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.800 Well, we have to fight with the weapons that apply 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.879 to the battlefields in which one gains, and the most 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:45.200 important ones are on social media. And the most important 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:53.960 purchase that is going on right now is Toller Tom 0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.160 number one, number one, and I hope it goes through 0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:01.080 because it can be consequential. And the other one, what's 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:02.879 the other one that's most important? 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.839 X X very good? 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.239 And you know, so we have to talk to the Luck. 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.319 He's not an enemy, he's a friend. We should talk 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.719 to him now. If we can get those two things, 0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.839 we get Luck and I could go on on other things, 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.160 but that's not the point right now. We have to 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.880 fight the fight, Okay. To take give direction to the 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.320 Jewish people and give director to our non Jewish friends 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.000 or those who could be a Jewish of friends. 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.760 The most important purchase is going right now is TikTok. 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.680 I hope it goes through because it's going to be consequential. 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.520 So Chris sol I once again asked, will you join 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.480 me in calling for the band of TikTok? This it 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.400 was important even for you know, on the whole China 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:49.440 data thing. But one of the things that people underestimated 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:53.080 is that what Trump saw with his victory after twenty 0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.080 twenty four was all the kids here, But it's the 0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.600 power of the algorithm and what obviously the worry about 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.920 that was with China. But now because it's Trump, he's like, oh, 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.760 we'll preserve TikTok, but we'll make sure that a bunch 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.200 of pro Israel forces are involved in the purchase. And 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:13.640 it's undeniable that TikTok is very good at shaping culture, 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.920 which is why the Chinese ban TikTok in their own country, 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.759 just to be very clear for people who don't understand that. 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.480 And now what they're looking at it is they've already 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.279 installed this censorship head over there. They get to keep 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.600 their business everybody's everyone is going to keep scrolling. Don't 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:29.280 deny yourself. 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:30.240 It's like we just talked. 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.359 About weed addiction and gambling addiction and all that. It's 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.279 exactly the same thing downstream of the hours a day 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.520 that people are burning on TikTok and scrolling. Well, now 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.719 it's going to have the same propagandistic efforts kind of 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:47.040 behind the scenes. It's now probably the most overtly politically 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:51.640 controlled social media platform alongside Twitter. Now i'd say, I'd 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:51.840 say a. 0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:52.280 Lot of time. 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.080 But the thing is, the only reason why I think 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.560 it's more consequential is Twitter is for elites, so it's 0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.160 very important at shaping you know, elite culture and conversation. Yeah, 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:05.239 a couple hundred million people use Twitter globally, Like in 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.160 the United States, it's a couple hundred million people on TikTok, 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.560 Like actual people who have no Twitter account, don't even 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.680 know what's going on over there and not involved in 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.320 the wars over whatever, you know, some sort of political 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.839 going on, they're scrolling. That's where a lot of their 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.600 information is coming from. So, by far, in my opinion, 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.400 the most consequential at a small de democratic perspective for 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.160 shaping whatever the future conversation. 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.560 Yes, so now instead of my China's could ben by Israel? 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:32.120 Okay, well great could abandon great stuff abandon definitely worse. 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.120 I mean, I just I guess I don't see it 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.920 as any worse than than X or other social media. 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.839 I mean, I think it's all poison. Like that's where 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:41.480 I am. I don't know what the answer is, Like, 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.319 I don't know that complete ban is the answer, but 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:45.920 I'm kind of like at a loss as to what 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:48.120 to do about all of these things that are set 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.240 on colonizing our mind, right, colonizing our attention. 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:53.080 That's what they're like. 0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:58.440 That's the commodity that they trade in and with dystopian outcomes, frankly, 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.360 but the ones which we can't resist. You know, we 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:05.000 were talking about the gambling addiction, like the scroll both 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.759 of TikTok and you know YouTube shorts and Twitter, it's 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.799 all modeled off of slot machines, like to keep you 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:16.720 endlessly scrolling. That's the whole idea, is the endless scroll. 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.319 And yeah, I mean it's it's brain poison. And I 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.000 just the one thing I will say, like, I think 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.879 if Beabie really thinks that this is going to you know, 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.040 help him win the propaganda war. Like the propaganda war 0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:34.360 for Israel's already lost. That battle is over, it's done. 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.160 Now they have to operate in the realm of just 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:41.000 like pure power politics, like cracking down on anyone who 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:45.680 just sends, you know, using their their main ally and 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.279 most important now only ally that matters the United States 0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.280 of America to do their bidding in terms of cracking 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.720 down on our own population, backing them in their endless wars. 0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:55.279 Like that's where they're at. 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:59.000 They've already lost the sort of soft power competition in 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:02.200 terms of global opinion. I don't think that their ownership 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:03.760 of TikTok is necessarily going. 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:04.080 To change that. 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.000 In fact, if anything, it's going to further piss people 0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:11.080 off and enrage them that they feel that heavy hand 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.480 of censorship now coming down from their favorite class I 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:14.239 would hope. 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:18.320 So, I'm not yet quite sure about our current population, 0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.080 and in particular with some of the calls right now 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:26.040 for open censorship. Here we have Israeli politician Yayrgalan openly 0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:29.080 says the next step is strict controls on social media, 0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:31.640 in particular going after Twitter and saying that they need 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.480 to ban what he considers to be anti Semitic voices. 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:35.280 Let's take a listen. 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:38.040 The next thing I will do. 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:40.120 We will do. 0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:46.040 Is to put restriction on the social media in a 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:50.480 way that not allowed to make brutal propaganda in the 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:58.480 social media. Because this is a worldwide problem and it 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:04.799 should be initiate by the United States of America, the 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:12.040 place where all the big firms is settled. Facebook and 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:17.120 X and all the rest. This is a major problem 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.920 for democracy all over the globe, and we need to 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:22.520 treat it seriously. 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.319 We need to take it seriously. Facebook to X, they 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.200 all need to be banned. I mean, does anybody else 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:33.280 just think it's so crazy that Bebee comes to America 0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:37.120 and assembles a group of social media influencers, including his 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:38.080 own son. 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.160 Is that the only interaction that he has with his 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:40.640 own son? 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:45.200 Yeah? Yeah, you're what so your son, who, by the way, 0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.759 lives here in America? Why for what reason? What's his 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.439 visa status? Anybody want to call ice over that one? 0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:54.600 You know, how exactly? Who doesn't he draft agailable shouldn't 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.080 be fighting in Gaza if it's so patriotic and amazing 0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.279 and he's sitting over here on our soil, presumably on 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.520 a you know, some sort of friendly visa, being guarded 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.960 by the literal Israeli shinbat as he lives in a 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:10.160 penthouse apartment in Miami and firing off tweets from his 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.520 sunny little balcony about how they need more censorship of 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.880 Tucker Carlson and Cannas Owens and it's just so naked, 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.840 it's so unbelievable. And I hope, I hope that you're 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:24.000 correct that the propaganda war and all of that is lost. 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:25.080 But I don't know. 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:29.960 I still like, even with all of the sentiment moving, Yeah, 0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.880 at a basic level, the politics have not changed. Like 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.520 at the power level the Trump administration, they could care 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:40.600 less about the rising tide of Look, even amongst Republican 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:44.040 younger voters, it's like the sentiment is lost. They just 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.240 don't care. They're like, look, this is what we are 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.160 going to do. The average Republican politician still doesn't care. 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.440 The average Democrat politician will pay a little bit of 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.400 lip service. But at a you know, power level, they're 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.880 not doing anything about it. Slock in here on our show. 0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:59.480 Maybe I'll vote for it, Maybe I won't goes on 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.200 Stephen Colbert then says she would have voted against it 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:03.640 if she was there, but we'll never know because she 0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:06.439 wasn't there. Because she was It's like, what's going on here? Yeah, 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:07.840 you know, it's like does this Does any of this 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:08.400 even matter? 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:11.080 No, the hard power, like they still have a lock 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:14.720 on a lot of certainly the Trump administration, no doubt 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:19.400 about that, and most Democrats. But you know, let's to 0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:21.880 the point of whether or not they're winning the propaganda war. 0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:23.600 Should we take a listen to a little bit of 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:25.880 the propaganda and you can tell me if you find it, 0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:28.080 tell me if you find this persuasive or not. This 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.520 is the three This is some of the influencers who 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:34.000 were gathered at this meeting to get a sense of 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.440 some of the content they're putting out to the TikTok world. 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.880 We were asking him the hard questions that a lot 0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.920 of people from our generation have been raising concerns about, 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.840 for example, and the same way he listened to us 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:47.280 and took in our criticisms. I'm truly hoping that you 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.800 guys will listen to the answer. Apak Apak is something 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:51.640 that I see. 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:52.200 All the time. 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.640 Number One, Apak is not an Israeli organization. It has 0:58:56.720 --> 0:59:01.240 no ties whatsoever to the government of Israel foreign lobbying. 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.160 It's a lobbyist group that happens to be lobbying for 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.520 a certain group of people, right, and this is not 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:09.760 unique to Israel. There are multiple countries that do this, 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.480 and there's multiple different groups that do this. For some reason, 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.400 people just attach ont APAC, despite the fact that APAC 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:19.680 makes up less than five percent of the lobbying. So 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.080 if you have a problem with lobbying, like me, that's 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.680 totally fine. I'm against APAC because I'm against lobbying. But 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:29.080 you can't just hone in on one specific group. If 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.000 you're going to be against it, then be against it 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:34.160 for everybody. Moving on from that, we were asking questions 0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:37.400 about these rumors that Israel has been going out and 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.440 funding people, and no, none of us were paid for 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.600 that meeting. But I wish Phobe if you want to 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.720 write one hundred and fifty million check, go for it. 0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:47.480 But we asked, We asked about funding, and as he explained, 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.760 Israel is not offering to fund anybody. They're not trying 0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:54.240 to get involved in American political advocacy groups. That has 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.200 never happened. And if you're concerned about this. Who you 0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:59.640 should be concerned about is Katark. The last thing that 0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.720 we really touched on was the aid. People don't know this, 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.200 but Nanyah, Who's first address to Congress was to. 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:06.480 Say that they didn't want aid. 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:10.160 Jimmy Carter, who was a notoriously anti Israel president, is 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.800 actually who started this because he saw that Israel was 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.280 building up their air force and he didn't want them to. 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:17.240 So he gave them eight that they could only use 1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:19.440 to buy military weapons from US, and they had to 1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:23.200 agree to shut down their manufacturers. So now they're dependent 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.640 in a way on this aid for military operations that 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.680 America doesn't want them to lose because we use it 1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:31.960 as a leash on them, so that. 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:32.600 At our points. 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:34.680 I just pulled this up on TikTok. Here are the 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:35.400 top comments. 1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.960 Number one on the payroll confirmed, Number two that APAC 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.600 paycheck must be insane. Number three did she just say 1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.440 that APAX not an Israeli lobbying group with four question marks? 1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:46.800 As a conservative? That man is a war criminal? How 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:48.520 much are they paying you? As soon as she said 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:52.600 APAC was an Israeli lobby I scrolled out confirmed, unfollowed, 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:54.600 We're not buying it, et cetera, et cetera. 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.320 So yeah, I mean, look, look I don't know. 1:00:57.520 --> 1:01:01.000 I just I feel very dark about how this is 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.600 all playing out right now. And the reason why is 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:10.560 that as as disturbing and preposterous as all these influencers 1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:12.120 and all that are, they have currency. 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.120 I mean, they're meeting with the Prime Minister. 1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:16.320 Oh do you need to make me think of those Sager? 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.240 It makes me think of you know, we cover the 1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:21.520 chorus dark money scandal with the Democrats where they're paying 1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:24.080 this like you know, one of the influencers, does some 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:29.040 American girl dull like pro DNC memes. You listen to 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.600 most of these people content and you're like, okay, good luck, 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:33.760 or the DNC started their own podcast. 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:35.320 Ken Clippenstein loves posting the. 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:38.320 Views on it, like just because you put money behind 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:40.840 a thing, doesn't mean anyone is going to buy what 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.600 you're selling, doesn't mean anyone's gonna be like and like 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:45.920 I said, if anything people watching that or just like 1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:49.480 screw you. Basically it had the opposite of the intended effect. 1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:51.120 We've got one more we can show you too, which 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:52.680 is if anything, you I mean this, this. 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:53.200 Is the best one. 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.400 This is wild. This is c four. Take a listen. 1:01:55.720 --> 1:02:00.040 Imagine supporting people who start wars just to lose the wars. 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.840 So they can cry about it and then try. 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:03.160 It all again. 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:06.080 You must see anti Semites are literally obsessed with Jews. 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:10.320 Now walk with me while you must see. Anti Semites 1:02:10.320 --> 1:02:14.600 are stacking eviction notices. Jews are out here stacking up businesses. 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:17.600 Jews control all the industries. Maybe if you spend more 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:18.480 time taking. 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:20.640 Notes from successful people, you wouldn't have to spend your 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.920 nights and weekends spreading hate from your anonymous account with 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:25.400 an anime profile picture. 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:27.360 Do you work as hard as Jews? 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:30.080 Do you network like Jews? No, because you're too busy 1:02:30.160 --> 1:02:32.760 cheering on a group of musty terrorists who smell like 1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:35.160 dirty ear ring backs. And if we're gonna keep it, really, 1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:38.200 you're really mad because your income is giving side hustle period. Hi, 1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:40.560 you gonna hate from outside shapot you can't even get in. 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:45.080 Wow, So they have their own sassy gay black guy. 1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:48.200 Congratulations, Well and I love this. 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:50.800 Who is that influencing? I don't know it's being paid. 1:02:50.920 --> 1:02:53.120 I mean, look it's perverse and it's sick, but like 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:54.720 pretty clearly they're finding. 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:57.320 Is that reaching an audience. 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:01.480 Probably not, but they're obviously look they're doing it for something, 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.520 like they're making some money of perpetuating this stuff. I 1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:06.720 believe that some of these people were present at the 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:12.560 Bill Ackman summit them right, And that's my point is 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.720 like it's it still does come with access to power. 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.200 That's what makes me feel dark really about the entire thing. 1:03:19.240 --> 1:03:21.560 At the end of the day, people's salaries are getting paid. 1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:24.360 Do I think that influences anybody. No, I certainly don't. 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:26.880 I think it's pathetic and ridiculous. But they're getting meetings 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:28.960 with the Israeli Prime Minister. One of the things is 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:31.120 when you look at Israel is that at the end 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:33.120 of the day, believe in hard power. So for them 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:36.200 this influencer briefing, everybody can laugh it off. I don't 1:03:36.240 --> 1:03:38.640 laugh it off because clearly they still think it's important 1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:42.080 and maybe it's a signal to the future TikTok people 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:44.080 that these people need to be boosted in the algorithm 1:03:44.400 --> 1:03:46.440 or something. And you and I know, like there is 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:50.320 enough kind of mindless scrolling and lack of information, lack 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:53.960 of just attention or whatever that to casually just stumble 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:57.960 across and get quote the truth. Clearly, the Israelis believe 1:03:58.200 --> 1:04:01.600 this is like an extential, extent and very important mission 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:03.720 for them, Yeah, to try and will it work. No, 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:06.560 I don't necessarily think so, but I don't know. I 1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:09.160 wouldn't put it past them. I trust their judgment in 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:10.760 respect of controlling the conversations. 1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:11.120 I don't. 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:14.320 I mean, I'm glad to not because I just think 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:15.760 that they have so cocooned them. 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:16.640 It really is. 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:19.240 I'm not equating the two, but it does remind me 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:21.600 a lot of the DNC, Like they're so high on 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:24.400 their own supply, they're so cocooned in their own bubble 1:04:24.640 --> 1:04:27.480 and so insulated from their critics because they just immediately 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:30.080 write anyone off who has anything negative to say as 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:32.760 an anti semi and they don't let it penetrate. And 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:36.440 so I think they are completely disconnected from the way 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:40.240 that they have just become reviled around the world, around 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:43.640 the world, and reviled in the US in a way 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:47.240 that has never been the case. And so you know, 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:49.480 I mean that like that thing was a mess, that 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:52.000 was a disaster. Yeah, I don't think there's one person 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:53.680 who looked at that and was like, oh, you're right 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:57.040 not to mention it was anti semitic. Even as they're 1:04:57.040 --> 1:04:59.760 trying to like stand up against anti Semitism, and they're 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:03.520 like the Jews control all the industry and are really 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.960 good with money. It's like, what are you doing here? 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:08.840 So in any case, I mean, there's always going to 1:05:08.880 --> 1:05:11.040 be shameless hacks who stuck up to power no matter what. 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:12.600 That's what these people are. 1:05:12.920 --> 1:05:15.360 They know that they can get into these meetings if 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.960 they toe the line. They you know, may genuinely have 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.600 some like ideological belief about it or whatever. But more importantly, 1:05:21.640 --> 1:05:24.080 there's always going to be sick of fans who circle power. 1:05:24.400 --> 1:05:27.400 And that's what's going on here. It is very dystopian, 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:31.040 Don't get me wrong. The consolidation of media power in 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:35.720 Trump aligned hands and in pro Zionist hands, that is 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:39.520 very disconcerting. And the amount of you know, sway that 1:05:39.560 --> 1:05:42.280 they can use these social media platforms. They're out there 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:44.240 saying like, look, we're going to tell Elon what to do, 1:05:44.280 --> 1:05:46.080 and he's probably going to do it because he's our buddy. 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:49.640 Is also really wild and dystopian. So I don't want 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:51.760 to downplay it. I just want to say that I 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:56.560 think that their haspara efforts have been laughably pathetic. No 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:59.360 one is buying their bullshit anymore. Very few people are 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:01.040 buying their bullshit anymore. 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:01.240 I should say. 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:04.960 And we all have access to reality now, like you're 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:07.280 not going to be able to stop the flow of 1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:10.480 the videos of the horror coming out of Gaza. And 1:06:10.520 --> 1:06:13.880 by the way, your own soldiers post their own war crimes, 1:06:14.000 --> 1:06:16.280 so we can see it directly from them as well. 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:19.360 We can listen to the statements that you make about 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:21.560 how you're trying to manipulate all of us and buy 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:24.360 up the media platform so that there's no descent. We 1:06:24.400 --> 1:06:26.600 can listen to them saying in hebro you know, we 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:29.000 can hit the translate button and hear them talking about 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:31.240 how there's no innocence and how they want to displace 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:34.240 everyone and exactly what the plan is. So, you know, 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:37.240 I think it will be very hard for them in 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:40.800 this environment to just hide reality and hide the truth 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.680 and to turn back the clock and then persuade people, Oh, 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:45.440 you know what, I was wrong, It's not a genocide, 1:06:45.520 --> 1:06:47.600 like actually, this is the most moral army on the 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:48.280 plant or whatever. 1:06:48.320 --> 1:06:48.800 Nonsense. 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:51.600 Yeah, listen, I hope you're right. Let's go to C five. 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:54.560 Please up here on the screen, which shows the list 1:06:54.640 --> 1:06:57.000 of the influencers that always like I said. 1:06:56.840 --> 1:06:58.080 Yeah, there you go, first of the list. 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:05.040 Yeah, he's an influencer. He's a Nepo baby living on 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:08.280 our contract to poor disaster. Please send him, send them 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:11.000 to Gaza, all right. You know, one of the hallmarks 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.200 of a society, like one of the things that it's 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:15.400 easy to romanticize it, as horrible as it was. But 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:18.439 in the First World War, something I've always respected about 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:20.840 the British and the Germans and all their societies is 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:23.840 that when the leaders went to war, they actually sent 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:26.080 their own sons because they believed in it. Like you 1:07:26.160 --> 1:07:28.040 had the Prime Minister of the UK whose son was 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:30.880 literally killed in combat. You had you know, crown princes 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:33.760 and others in the field of battle. The average life 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.800 expectancy for a British soldier almost entirely taken from the 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:39.080 upper cross like the lords and others who supported the 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:41.040 war was like I don't even remember exactly the timeline, 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:42.920 but it was very very short. But my point is 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:45.920 just that nowadays, you know, it's the norm of the 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:49.200 chickenhawk meme, where you have the congressman and everybody else. 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:50.720 This kind of relates to our shootings. 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:53.720 Block who support the war, their kids get to go 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:55.080 to college, get exempt. 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:56.360 We don't even have a draft anymore. 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:58.240 But it's like very few of them ever sign up 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:00.880 for military service. And then it's like the working classmen 1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:02.800 and women of the country who actually have to go 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.000 abroad and face the consequences. 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.320 That's like the post World War two status quo. 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:09.520 So there is something very sick about that, and clearly 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:12.800 that's also present in Israeli society as well. And by 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:15.760 the way, to that point, Paramount has now released a 1:08:15.800 --> 1:08:18.400 new trailer for something called Red Alert, a four part 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:21.080 mini series depicting the real life stories of the victims 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.840 of October seventh massacre in Israel. Why does that matter 1:08:23.920 --> 1:08:27.280 because Paramount was bought by whom, David Ellison, the guy 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:30.400 who wants to hire Barry Weiss over at CBS News. 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:34.559 Paramount's Guide Dance now owned entirely by by David Ellison, 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:36.559 who also just made an all cash bid for Warner 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.200 Brothers Discovery including HBO Max. So you're going to have 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:41.639 two Hollywood studios that are all under control. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.920 Who the hell knows what's going to get released nationwide. 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:45.880 I don't know. 1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:49.080 I mean, that's where again the ability to shape culture 1:08:49.560 --> 1:08:53.480 is that from TikTok to the literal movie studios. 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:54.680 It's going to be. 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:58.880 Very very interesting to see what the divide on that 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.920 and whether it can hold who actually controls everything. I 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:03.400 tend to believe a lot of it, A lot of 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.679 it is a lot more top down than people think 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.000 to be able to push this stuff, you know, out 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:10.840 into the ether. But potential, potentially the Internet will still 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:11.559 be more powerful. 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:14.599 Yeah, I mean, I just would say like they are 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:18.479 becoming more overt and more heavy handed, but like the 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:24.000 Western media has been aggressively pro Israel forever and certainly, 1:09:24.160 --> 1:09:27.200 you know the way they framed October seventh, post October 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:30.280 seventh are involvement, et cetera. So it's not like they 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:33.320 haven't been trying on the propaganda front. And still like 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:37.960 you have this massive revolt against what they're doing. Democratic 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:41.599 Party is lost, Independence are lost, Republicans are divided. Young 1:09:41.640 --> 1:09:46.120 Republicans are increasingly lost. So I think it's probably too 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:48.280 late to put those pieces back together, but they are 1:09:48.360 --> 1:09:49.280 certainly going to try. 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:51.160 They're trying. We'll see, Yeah, I don't know. 1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:53.400 I mean, maybe it'll be a boon for independent film 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:55.479 or something, but then how do you get it distributed? See, 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:58.479 that's that's the issue with Hollywood. It's so bottlenecked and 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:01.920 so controlled. That's probably the thing I worry about the most. 1:10:02.120 --> 1:10:04.840 And also, just don't screw up HBO, please please please. 1:10:05.560 --> 1:10:07.840 It's like, let us just have our tasks, all right. 1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:08.960 Great show. Shout out to that