1 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,280 Therésa: Hey, Hantos, I'm back. The meeting with my caseworker Sharon 2 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Therésa: didn't go as planned. I haven't crossed over, and I'm 3 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Therésa: still here, at least for now, or I guess possibly forever. 4 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Therésa: You know, I'm starting to wonder if my unfinished business 5 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Therésa: maybe isn't my follower count. I also found out Sharon's 6 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Therésa: taking on Jimmy Buffett as a client now too, and 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Therésa: I'm just worried I'm not gonna get as much attention. 8 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Therésa: You know what, whatever, I don't need Sharon. Okay, I've 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,239 Therésa: eaten at the Margaritaville in the Fort Lauderdale Airport, so I've 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Therésa: already been to hell. Screw you, Jimmy Buffett. 11 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:58,880 Len: (MUMBLES) 12 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Therésa: Oh sick Glenn. If I ever meet him, I'll be 13 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,080 Therésa: sure to mention what a fan you are. Yeah. Sorry, 14 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Therésa: I'm not really feeling like myself today. Normally, when I 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Therésa: felt off in the real world, i'd get super high 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Therésa: and binge One Tree Hill. Anyway, if any of the 17 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,600 Therésa: ghouls listening want to share the ways they cheer themselves up, 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Therésa: I'm all ears boy smells huh oh boys souls. Yeah, 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Therésa: that's not a bad idea, all Right before we get 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Therésa: into today's episode, we have got a quick message from 21 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,960 Therésa: one of our sponsors as a beauty and wellness influencer 22 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,039 Therésa: and leveled to Matt Palate's instructor. Taking care of my 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,399 Therésa: body is my top priority. That's why I love Total Greens. 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Therésa: Are you kidding me for the millionth time? I'm a formless, 25 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,320 Therésa: non caportal entity. Do this, I can't today, 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Len: (MUMBLES) 27 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Therésa: Great you forgot the promo code. 28 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Len: (MUMBLES) 29 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Therésa: No. I don't want to oversell, but this next story 30 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Therésa: even had me on edge. Ronnie and Amanda thought they'd 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Therésa: found their dream home, but they couldn't escape the evil 32 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Therésa: in the basement. 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,440 STORY A: I started seeing a shadow figure around the house. Over time, 34 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,520 STORY A: it kind of felt like when you walked inside of 35 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,240 STORY A: the home, you were walking into this thick fog. It 36 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,359 STORY A: was just unsettling, uncomfortable. 37 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,680 STORY A: And I was kind of getting worried, thinking that we've 38 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,720 STORY A: moved into a house that was haunted. I'm Ronnie 39 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,280 STORY A: and this is his wife, Amanda. 40 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:50,280 STORY A: And there was something evil in our basement. We were 41 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,000 STORY A: in the process of putting our house on the market, 42 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,320 STORY A: so we were looking for houses within the general area 43 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,440 STORY A: of where we were living at in Tennessee and we 44 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,839 STORY A: came across an auction, so we decided to go check 45 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:05,200 STORY A: it out. 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,040 STORY A: The house was located in a very rural area. 47 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,640 STORY A: Had a long driveway. The front yard was opened up 48 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,200 STORY A: pretty good. 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,519 STORY A: It had some big, tall trees, but then the rest 50 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,240 STORY A: of it was surrounded by woods on twelve acres. Peaceful, 51 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,480 STORY A: no neighbors, no noise. It was all original. It had 52 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,480 STORY A: the dark wood paneling, really old wallpaper and shag carpet, 53 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,160 STORY A: had a full sized basement unfinished. We'd like the idea 54 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,520 STORY A: could gradually fix it up, and we had the time 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 STORY A: and the money, and immediately we kind of fell in 56 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,560 STORY A: love with it. We put an offer in ended up 57 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,600 STORY A: getting it. It was mid September when we finally started 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,840 STORY A: moving in. As we moved in, it was just something 59 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,960 STORY A: about the basement. It was just this weird, eerie feeling. 60 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,800 STORY A: You go down old wooden stairs. The ceiling height was 61 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 STORY A: maybe six feet. I'm six foot three, so I'm having 62 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,200 STORY A: to duck my head through there. But it's something about 63 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,800 STORY A: the back corner of that basement. It had a darkness 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,240 STORY A: to it, almost as if you could see it. It 65 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,280 STORY A: was very uncomfortable, but as time grew on, it became 66 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,560 STORY A: stronger and more noticeable. 67 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,240 STORY A: The basement was all open, and then off to the 68 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,799 STORY A: side there was a little door in the wall. 69 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,760 STORY A: I've never seen anything like it. It was very strange, 70 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,520 STORY A: kind of like who ever lived there before made it themselves. 71 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,880 STORY A: Ronnie crawled through. There was a wall on the side 72 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,000 STORY A: with another door, so he went through the doorway and 73 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,559 STORY A: he disappeared. 74 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,440 STORY A: And I turned the corner. 75 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,919 STORY A: I started stepping down these makeshift stairs, and then it 76 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,360 STORY A: just stepped down to nothing, and then there was ashes. 77 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,840 STORY A: It was so bizarre, super creepy. 78 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,800 STORY A: It could have been a red flag. But then we 79 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,720 STORY A: didn't know what to make of it. My brother and 80 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,040 STORY A: sister were over helping us get some of the heavy 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,200 STORY A: stuff moved in, and we were found in the basement 82 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,400 STORY A: putting all these boxes away. I just glance up and 83 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,560 STORY A: I happened to see this really slim box on top 84 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,040 STORY A: of the duckwork. I'd go to pull it down and 85 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,920 STORY A: see what it is, and there was an old nineteen 86 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,440 STORY A: seventies Ouija board still in the box and everything. Of course, 87 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,200 STORY A: the box looks like it's been used quite a bit, 88 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,400 STORY A: you know, it was barely hanging together. But I bring 89 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,840 STORY A: it upstairs and show Amanda. I'm like, check this out. 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,280 STORY A: Look what I found. We can decorate for Halloween. So 91 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,280 STORY A: we put it in the dining room hutch with all 92 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,080 STORY A: the other Fall decor. It was getting late in the evening, 93 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,760 STORY A: so instead of my brother and sister just going home, 94 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,240 STORY A: they were like, well we could stay at the night. 95 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,360 STORY A: All the bedrooms are upstairs. My wife and I take 96 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,039 STORY A: the master bedroom, and then across the hall was the 97 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,400 STORY A: other bedrooms that they decided to take. 98 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,400 STORY A: As soon as we went to bed and we were 99 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,039 STORY A: starting to get comfortable, we started hearing someone running back 100 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,000 STORY A: and forth in the hall. We had those sliding doors 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,720 STORY A: on the closets. We heard them sliding back and forth, 102 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 STORY A: back and forth, back and forth, running down the hall 103 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,040 STORY A: to the next room, sliding those closet doors back and forth, 104 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,160 STORY A: back and forth, over and over and over again. I 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,360 STORY A: was so tired. It was like aggravating that they were 106 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,360 STORY A: doing that. I was like, Ronnie, get up and tell 107 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,160 STORY A: them to stop. And then he came back and said, 108 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,160 STORY A: it's not them. They thought it was us. 109 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,760 STORY A: When I saw a look on their face and the 110 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,080 STORY A: fear that they had, I could tell that it wasn't 111 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,520 STORY A: something that they're messing with us with. So I'm like, 112 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 STORY A: maybe somebody broke into the house and they're trying to 113 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,400 STORY A: freak us out or something. I don't know, because I 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,680 STORY A: mean it was so loud, obviously somebody was doing it. 115 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,120 STORY A: So we walked through the house. We're going room by 116 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,600 STORY A: room like really slowly, and we didn't see anyone. 117 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 STORY A: Which I all the closets anywhere we can. 118 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,280 STORY A: And then his sister was like, the Ouija board. It's 119 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,320 STORY A: the Ouija board. You got to put that back where 120 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,480 STORY A: you found it. So Ronnie runs to that hutch, grabs it, 121 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,720 STORY A: runs down to the basement, runs back upstairs, and like 122 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,600 STORY A: slams the door shut. We're so scared we didn't want 123 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,600 STORY A: to go back to our rooms ourselves, so we all 124 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,880 STORY A: ended up sleeping in one room. Since all that happened 125 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,800 STORY A: the first night, I was thinking, is this something that 126 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,240 STORY A: we were going to continue having problems with? 127 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,840 STORY A: I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe we disturbed something paranormal. 128 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,520 STORY A: We ended up getting the Ouija board out. We give 129 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,400 STORY A: it to a lady that was looking for one, and 130 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,960 STORY A: then later on we were thinking about it, so I 131 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,040 STORY A: decided to message her, asking her if she ever used it. 132 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,600 STORY A: She replied they had used it, and she regretted ever 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,480 STORY A: picking that Ouija board up because she would see this 134 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,840 STORY A: older man all the time, and her boyfriend would see 135 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,080 STORY A: a little boy all the time, and they would hear things, 136 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,080 STORY A: they'd see things, So I think that Ouija board was 137 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,320 STORY A: pretty bad. 138 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,760 STORY A: As time went on, things just started getting stronger and stronger, 139 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,240 STORY A: and we started noticing more and more. Down in the basement. 140 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,040 STORY A: There was this big chest freezer. 141 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,079 STORY A: The things we found in the freezer were just very 142 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,920 STORY A: very unusual. 143 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,480 STORY A: There were birds, like crows were in there, and then 144 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,959 STORY A: there was weird animal bones. 145 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,199 STORY A: There was like a deer leg that had some fur. 146 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,240 STORY A: On it but no meat, and then at the very 147 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,880 STORY A: bottom was this gallon sized bucket of frozen blood. At 148 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,840 STORY A: that time, I was thinking the previous owners were just 149 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,480 STORY A: into some kind of dark satanic stuff in that basement, 150 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,319 STORY A: and I thought, if I move anything, are we going 151 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,840 STORY A: to wake something up? 152 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,200 STORY A: So I just left everything in that freezer. 153 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,320 STORY A: We just thought they were messing with some dark stuff here, 154 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,319 STORY A: and that's why we experienced what we experienced. 155 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,280 STORY A: We're starting to hear what sounds like walking going up 156 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,679 STORY A: the stairs, walking around the hallway up there, and then 157 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,000 STORY A: into the bedrooms. Of course, nobody's upstairs. And then other 158 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,240 STORY A: times we would notice the basement door would constantly be 159 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,439 STORY A: open and there was no explanation. We'd randomly get up 160 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,440 STORY A: in the morning basement door would be open. Throughout the day, 161 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,440 STORY A: basement door would be open, couldn't figure out why. 162 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,480 STORY A: And it always felt like someone was watching you when 163 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,840 STORY A: you were down there. It's like they did not want 164 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,800 STORY A: you in there at all. They just wanted you out. 165 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,439 STORY A: It got to the point where I wasn't really sleeping 166 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,480 STORY A: at all. I try to go to bed, and I'd 167 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,640 STORY A: wake up between two or three o'clock in the morning. 168 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,920 STORY A: I keep seeing this shadow figure. Three o'clock in the 169 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,800 STORY A: morning is like the Devil's hours, where demonic spirits have 170 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:42,440 STORY A: more power. I would be upright staring at our bedroom door, 171 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,160 STORY A: waiting for somebody to come in. 172 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,360 STORY A: It's like I was expecting them to come in. 173 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,439 STORY A: It became hell. You weren't sure what was going to 174 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,040 STORY A: happen next. You were terrified. There was a time where 175 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,920 STORY A: I'm walking past the basement door. I notice that it's open, 176 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 STORY A: so I'm going to go close it, and I hear 177 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,880 STORY A: Amanda call my name from the basement. It's all pitch black. 178 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,360 STORY A: There's no lights on down there. I quickly go down there. 179 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,400 STORY A: I look, I don't see her. I felt that dread 180 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,040 STORY A: and that wave of darkness hit me. I felt like 181 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,800 STORY A: if I didn't get out of that basement right away, 182 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,720 STORY A: something bad was going to happen, and I wasn't exactly 183 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,360 STORY A: sure what. So I run up to the second floor and 184 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,439 STORY A: I find Amanda in our bedroom. 185 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,760 STORY A: He was like "did you call me?" No, what are you talking about? 186 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,560 STORY A: If it was mimicking Amanda's voice, why was it wanting 187 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,559 STORY A: me down in the basement. 188 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,040 STORY A: It really creeped me out. They say, if a demonic 189 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,040 STORY A: spirit will call you with someone else's name to lure 190 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,360 STORY A: you on your own. 191 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,560 STORY A: We were just constantly stressed out. We were thinking, okay, well, 192 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,520 STORY A: what's coming next. 193 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,920 STORY A: We got some chicken coops, and I've always wanted to 194 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 STORY A: raise chickens, so I was super excited about that. We 195 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,800 STORY A: had about fifty chickens. One day we went to the store. 196 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,480 STORY A: We were gone for maybe an hour. We got back. 197 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,920 STORY A: I happened to glance out the window and I could 198 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,200 STORY A: see the chicken coops. I thought I saw something. I 199 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,600 STORY A: went out there. Ronnie followed behind me. As we were 200 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,240 STORY A: walking down we could see the chickens scattered around the 201 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,280 STORY A: whole backyard, all dead. 202 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,120 STORY A: We couldn't explain it. 203 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 STORY A: There was no markings on them where it looked like 204 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,079 STORY A: something attacked them. It kind of seemed like maybe they 205 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,959 STORY A: died from fear. I don't know. 206 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,760 STORY A: When you watch a movie about a haunted house and 207 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,720 STORY A: you question, well, why they're just leaving, there's nowhere to go. 208 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,880 STORY A: That's your house, and until you sell it, where could 209 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,160 STORY A: you go? 210 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,079 STORY A: We could feel the darkness, so we knew we had 211 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,640 STORY A: to get out. 212 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,080 STORY A: We're just like, enough is enough. We're going crazy. 213 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,319 STORY A: The day we finally got the call that somebody is 214 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,520 STORY A: buying the house, it was just instant relief. 215 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,840 STORY A: It felt like a blessing. 216 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,480 STORY A: And then we're moving into our new house. The owners 217 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,199 STORY A: left a bunch of stuff in the attic. Ronnie was 218 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,880 STORY A: digging stuff out of it and he pulled out a 219 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:39,600 STORY A: ouija board. 220 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,640 STORY A: I freaked out. I keep waiting to hear a sound 221 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,480 STORY A: or see a shadow or something. I'm hoping that it's 222 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,079 STORY A: behind us, but I don't know. 223 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Therésa: Len remind me to look into Ouija boards. Seems like 224 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Therésa: the door's always wide open with those things. Okay, next 225 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Therésa: order of business. So apparently I've deeply offended a large 226 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Therésa: group of Jimmy Buffett fans who call themselves parrot heads. 227 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Therésa: I don't even know what that means. 228 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Len: (MUMBLES) 229 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Therésa: It's gotta be more than just a tropical state of mind. 230 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Therésa: Len people are raging in the comments. You guys think 231 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Therésa: I'm coming for Jimmy in the afterlife. But just to 232 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Therésa: be clear, Jimmy is coming for me and my spot 233 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Therésa: on the other side. And if you're really that upset 234 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,320 Therésa: about it, then just unfollow me. It's fine. I couldn't 235 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Therésa: care less. Actually I don't care at all. You really 236 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Therésa: think he just wasted away in Margeritaville? Grow up! 237 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Len: (MUMBLES) 238 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Therésa: We really lost that many in the last eleven minutes. Just 239 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,640 Therésa: give me the next ad. 240 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Len: (MUMBLES) 241 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Therésa: kumquat mattresses pulling out too, you're joking me. Okay, this 242 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Therésa: is not my day. Dear Lord, Today is really not 243 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Therésa: my day. Crusty tropical rock boomer ruining my eternal slumber. 244 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Therésa: Jesus Christ. 245 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Therésa: I would kill that guy. 246 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,320 STORY B: When I think of my days as an EMT, most 247 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,800 STORY B: of the calls that we had were just regular standard 248 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,800 STORY B: medical calls. 249 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,840 STORY B: Someone has stomach pain, chest pain, someone thinks they're having 250 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,040 STORY B: a heart attack, but there's one that scared the living 251 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,080 STORY B: crap out of me. My name is Brandon, and I 252 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,720 STORY B: saw what it was like to be scared to death. 253 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200 STORY B: I signed up for EMT school when I was still 254 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 STORY B: in high school. It was just something that I'd always 255 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 STORY B: wanted to do. I've been a diabetic since I was eight, 256 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,400 STORY B: so I was in and out of hospitals quite a 257 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,440 STORY B: bit when I was a kid. Growing up, I figured 258 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,520 STORY B: EMT would be a good route to go down. Got 259 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,800 STORY B: my certification in two thousand and two. Everyone thinks that, 260 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,920 STORY B: you know, being on an ambulance, working for an ambulance service, 261 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,920 STORY B: it's constant adrenaline, and I guess it would be in 262 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,480 STORY B: cities like Dallas or Houston, but in rural East Texas 263 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,240 STORY B: not so much. You know, every one interesting call where 264 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,600 STORY B: you're crawling into a smashed up vehicle to hold someone's 265 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,680 STORY B: head up while they, you know, fire department rips the 266 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,840 STORY B: car apart around you. You'd have thirty to forty standard 267 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,800 STORY B: medical calls. So, hey, grandma's stomach hurts, can you come 268 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 STORY B: pick her up? Can you come to the nursing home 269 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,320 STORY B: and take this person to the hospital? Can you come 270 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 STORY B: here to do this? Go here to do that? Just 271 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,440 STORY B: standard patient transports. 272 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,200 STORY B: Kind of a funny story. I was working for a 273 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,400 STORY B: BLS basic life support service and it was very cold 274 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 STORY B: that night. We got a call to the middle of nowhere. 275 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,320 STORY B: The neighbors had noticed an elderly man that lived in 276 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,160 STORY B: the house was sitting on his porch and he wasn't 277 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,360 STORY B: moving and it didn't appear to be breathing.He was unresponsive 278 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 STORY B: We get out there and there are three sheriff deputies 279 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,040 STORY B: standing around a porch. They'd been there for twenty thirty minutes, 280 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,520 STORY B: and no one had assessed the guy. No one had 281 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,399 STORY B: walked up, no one had checked to see if he 282 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,800 STORY B: had a pulse, see if he was breathing. 283 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,520 STORY B: We all just assumed he was dead. 284 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,320 STORY B: I walk up on the porch and I'm doing the assessment, 285 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,000 STORY B: and I touch his wrists and he just goes. I 286 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,640 STORY B: had never seen so many East Texas sheriff deputies move 287 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,000 STORY B: so fast in my life. That scared everybody. We were 288 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,320 STORY B: over the rail, off the porch, and halfway back to 289 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,880 STORY B: the ambulance before we all kind of came to our 290 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,040 STORY B: senses and like, oh shit, we got to help this guy. 291 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 STORY B: You know, occasionally you'd have something like that that you 292 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,399 STORY B: remember just because it brings a smile to your face. Phrase 293 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,560 STORY B: that I had heard whenever I first got into EMS. 294 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,679 STORY B: Nurses would talk about it, Doctors wouldn't mention it. You 295 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:13,160 STORY B: can smell death. Anytime a patient is either recently deceased 296 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,119 STORY B: or in the process of dying, you start to notice 297 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,159 STORY B: this weird smell. It's very hard to describe, kind of 298 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,679 STORY B: like pungent, musty smell. It's just something that gets in 299 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,119 STORY B: your nostrils and you only smell it for a second 300 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 STORY B: and then it's gone. It's always shortly after the person's 301 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 STORY B: passed away. I've seen quite a few dead bodies, but 302 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,200 STORY B: occasionally you will have a patient that just very quietly 303 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,199 STORY B: tells you I'm gonna die, and then they die. I 304 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:49,720 STORY B: had that happened a couple of times. We had a 305 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,159 STORY B: call out in the middle of the night and we 306 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,680 STORY B: picked this elderly guy up and he thought he was 307 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,760 STORY B: having a heart attack, and sure enough he was. We're in the 308 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,800 STORY B: back of the ambulance and he's calm you know, he's 309 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,160 STORY B: asking me about, you know, my favorite fishing holes, and 310 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,760 STORY B: that was just kind of a common topic. I'm writing 311 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,040 STORY B: down his assessment report. 312 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,840 STORY B: Blood pressure that type Of thing, and he's just very 313 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,600 STORY B: very softly says son, I'm about to die. 314 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,200 STORY B: I'm like, no, no 315 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,199 STORY B: You're all right, pat him on the shoulder, and I 316 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,320 STORY B: told my partner up in the front to speed it up. 317 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:33,040 STORY B: When I looked back, he was unresponsive. He passed away. 318 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080 STORY B: That really bothered me. 319 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,720 STORY B: That was more give you goosebumps. But there was one 320 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,200 STORY B: in particular that scared the crap out of me. Still 321 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,679 STORY B: bothers me to this day. It was dark when we 322 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,560 STORY B: got to the nursing home. The sun was just coming up. 323 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,000 STORY B: It was a standard patient transport from a nursing home 324 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:04,840 STORY B: to a wound treatment center. We had done this several 325 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,680 STORY B: times with this same patient. 326 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,639 STORY B: He wasn't a pleasant guy. Again. 327 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,199 STORY B: We transported this same gentleman several times. It wasn't a 328 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,040 STORY B: fun trip. Anytime I was in the back with him, 329 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,640 STORY B: I was creeped out. 330 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,840 STORY B: He always looked mad, never spoke to us, to me, 331 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,119 STORY B: to my partner. Anytime you'd ask him a question, he 332 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,560 STORY B: would either growl or grunt. He was probably eighty years old, 333 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 STORY B: six three six four. You could tell at one point 334 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,919 STORY B: he was a big guy. He had the frame of 335 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,280 STORY B: a big guy, but he was very light. He was 336 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,959 STORY B: maybe one hundred and fifty pounds. I'd never seen him mobile. 337 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,800 STORY B: He was always on a cot. Rarely did I ever 338 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000 STORY B: see him move his arms or his legs or even 339 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,119 STORY B: lift his head. A sad story all around. It was 340 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,240 STORY B: twice a week that we went and got him for treatment. 341 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200 STORY B: On this particular trip, I was stuck in the back 342 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,720 STORY B: and I saw that he was looking to the back 343 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,840 STORY B: left hand side of the ambulance. About ten minutes into 344 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,400 STORY B: the ride, he asked me, what is that? It shot 345 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,960 STORY B: me because he'd never spoken to me before, and I 346 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,159 STORY B: saw where he was looking. There's nothing there, and no, no. 347 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560 STORY B: No, what is that? What is that? What is that? 348 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,719 STORY B: He just kept saying, what is that? What is that? 349 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,199 STORY B: He probably said what is that? Probably twelve times. 350 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,399 STORY B: He started to get louder and kind of violent. He's 351 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,000 STORY B: losing his mind. He's looking at the back left corner 352 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,119 STORY B: of the ambulance. At this point, he's screaming, what is that? 353 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,720 STORY B: What is that? 354 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:47,399 STORY B: No? Get it away, get it away. He managed to 355 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,600 STORY B: get one of his legs loose from the strap. We 356 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720 STORY B: had him wrapped in a sheet too, so he managed 357 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,240 STORY B: to get his leg out from under the sheet and 358 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120 STORY B: the buckle and he's kicking it whatever he's looking at. 359 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,160 STORY B: He got his arms out and grabbing my shirt. I'm 360 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,760 STORY B: trying to push his leg back down and get him 361 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,120 STORY B: back onto the strap, and he was flinging me all 362 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:18,040 STORY B: over the place, one arm flung me across his body. 363 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,960 STORY B: I was in fairly good shape and pretty strong. This 364 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,520 STORY B: was just insane. This guy was strong, like out of 365 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,200 STORY B: nowhere strong. This is a guy that hadn't moved in god 366 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,679 STORY B: knows how long when he grabbed me and flung me 367 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,719 STORY B: across him. I remember thinking, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, 368 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,800 STORY B: shit,I yell for my partner to pull over and come help. 369 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520 STORY B: She got in the back and she's trying to hold 370 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,440 STORY B: his leg down. I'm trying to get him to lay back. 371 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,480 STORY B: And he won't. He won't lay back. He was pushing 372 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,240 STORY B: both of us around. 373 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,440 STORY B: He's just screaming no, no, no, no, no, get it away, 374 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960 STORY B: get it away. 375 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000 STORY B: He wasn't fighting us in a way of get off me. 376 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,800 STORY B: He was waving his arms and his legs around like 377 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,040 STORY B: he was trying to get something off of him. And 378 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,520 STORY B: then he starts slapping at his stomach at his chest and 379 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,200 STORY B: he's fell back. 380 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,760 STORY B: He was unresponsive. My partner. She was freaked out. 381 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,800 STORY B: She got back in the front and turned on the 382 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,360 STORY B: lights and sirens and took off again. I started CPR 383 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:31,280 STORY B: on him. He never became responsive again. Sometimes when you're 384 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,119 STORY B: doing CPR on a patient, they will kind of stir moan, 385 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,800 STORY B: move around, they'll take a breath, might open their eyes, 386 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,960 STORY B: and then kind of go back out a couple of times. No, 387 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,000 STORY B: nothing with this guy. 388 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,680 STORY B: he was just gone. 389 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600 STORY B: I don't know his personal history. He may have been 390 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,240 STORY B: a horrible person and in his mind he was going 391 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,000 STORY B: to a horrible place and this was the thing that 392 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,920 STORY B: was going to take him there. 393 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,080 STORY B: I don't know. 394 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,440 STORY B: I hope it was just his imagination, but it may 395 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,680 STORY B: not have been. I really don't know. I just got 396 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,760 STORY B: creeped out afterwards. I had nightmares about for a while. 397 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520 STORY B: I still have a dream about it every now and then. 398 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 STORY B: I'll be sitting in that seat and he's asking what 399 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,480 STORY B: is that, and then then I'll wake up. I don't 400 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,760 STORY B: chalk it up to you know the paranormal. I also don't say, oh, 401 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,679 STORY B: there's always a scientific explanation. I mean, I'm very open minded. 402 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 STORY B: This is just one of those things that proves to 403 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,879 STORY B: me just based on my own experience that stuff like that 404 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,600 STORY B: is real. I honestly think something was there to drag 405 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,359 STORY B: him off. 406 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,240 STORY B: That's really what I think. 407 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Therésa: I'm actually really glad Brandon mentioned dragging because earlier on 408 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,640 Therésa: today's episode, I did a little dragging of my own. 409 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Therésa: Oh my god, Len did you write that? 410 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Len: (MUMBLES) 411 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,840 Therésa: Yes, I said some very unfair things about deceased American 412 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Therésa: hero Jimmy Buffett. I was upset and speaking out of turn. 413 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Therésa: My words do not reflect my feelings towards Jimmy, the 414 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Therésa: tropical rock genre, or parrot head community. My comments were 415 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Therésa: ignorant and hurtful. I am deeply sorry. Haunting is about 416 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Therésa: embracing all walks of life and death, and I am 417 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,240 Therésa: heartened to learn that Jimmy and I have such an 418 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,159 Therésa: overlapping fan base. At the end of the day, he 419 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Therésa: and I share a mission pushing positivity into the world 420 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Therésa: and towing the line of functioning alcoholism. 421 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,760 Therésa: I have found that no, I'm not saying this bar no, no, no, no, no. 422 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,040 Therésa: Oh at your urging, I've taken this opportunity to listen 423 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Therésa: and learn. I started today in a pretty rotten mood, 424 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Therésa: but after sampling some of Jimmy's discography. I have to 425 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Therésa: say I'm feeling a lot better. Oh my god,Cheese Burger 426 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,879 Therésa: in Paradise is an anthem of our time, and in 427 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,119 Therésa: this void of timeless expanse with no beginning or end, 428 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,920 Therésa: it's comforting to know that it is, in fact five 429 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:15,919 Therésa: o'clock somewhere. Oh okay, that's our show as always. If 430 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Therésa: you've got to scare to share, email Len at Hauntingthepodcast@gmail.com 431 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,679 Therésa: and you could be featured on an upcoming episode. In 432 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:31,240 Therésa: the meantime, keep it easy and breezy, friends, Absolutely. 433 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Therésa: Not Jimmy Buffett, are you serious? Have you heard me 434 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Therésa: all day? Okay? What the fuck is a parrot 435 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Len: (MUMBLES) 436 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Credits: If you have a Haunting story to share, please email 437 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,000 Credits: us at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com. 438 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Credits: Haunting is a production of Glass Podcast in partnership with iHeart Podcast. 439 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Credits: Haunting was created and executive produced by Nancy Glass, Andrea Gunning, 440 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,560 Credits: Ben Fetterman, and Lauren Lapkus. It is hosted by Lauren 441 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Credits: Lapkus as her character Therésa. 442 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,959 Credits: Haunting is directed by Aleah Welsh and produced by Trey Morgan. 443 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,439 Credits: It is written by Aleah Welsh, with additional writing by 444 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Credits: Nancy Glass, Trey Morgan, Ben Fetterman, and Kristen Melchiorre. Additional 445 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,160 Credits: production support by Todd Ganz. Additional voice acting by Trey 446 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,720 Credits: Morgan as the character producer Len Walker. 447 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Credits: Editing and sound design by Matt Delvecchio with additional editing 448 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Credits: by Nico Arouca, mixed and mastered by Dave Saia Operations 449 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Credits: and production support by Kristen Melchiorre. 450 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Credits: Haunting's theme and original compositions were composed by Oliver Baines 451 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Credits: and Dorry Macauley of Noiser. 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