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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era

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Speaker 2: things going on in college football right now. Louisville, the

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Speaker 2: number twenty five ranked team in the country, is about

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Speaker 2: to beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: As the Segre just told you.

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Speaker 2: We have a tie score in Miami seventeen all and

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Speaker 2: the USC Trojans, I don't know, down three to nothing

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Speaker 2: early to the Arizona Wildcats. Arizona is moving the ball

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Speaker 2: into just about the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Busy night, Jason Martin, How you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing all right. Uh, yeah, you're right. It is

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Speaker 4: a busy night. A couple interesting thing is the fact

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Speaker 4: that we're seven minutes into a USC game and they

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Speaker 4: have no points. That's a thing that we can certainly

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Speaker 4: be talking about. There's been a lot that's going on

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Speaker 4: in college football, and there's been some things that I

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Speaker 4: think some doors have closed where there was some speculation

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Speaker 4: about certain things. I think maybe we saw the end

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Speaker 4: of some of that, and we've seen the end of

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Speaker 4: a few hopefuls. We can now move on from those.

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Speaker 4: But there are definitely some conversations that we had about

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Speaker 4: some coaches and some teams.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, well, there's a conversation to be had in the

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Speaker 2: LA Coliseum as Arizona has just gone up nine to

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Speaker 2: nothing extra point pending for people who do not know

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Speaker 2: much about the Arizona Wildcats. They played Washington tough when

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Speaker 2: we were on air last week, and it is worth

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Speaker 2: noting by the way Jason, their backup quarterback Noah Fafida

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Speaker 2: up so really quickly, before we get to everything else

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Speaker 2: that happened, what do you make of the truck Nojins

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Speaker 2: being down ten nothing to Arizona early.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to make too much of it,

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Speaker 4: because we've seen a lot of good football teams. Even today,

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Speaker 4: we saw it. Good football teams come out of the

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Speaker 4: gates lethargic flat and then go on to dominate. Like

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Speaker 4: Ohio State didn't look good at all for about two

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Speaker 4: and a half quarters and then ended up winning by

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Speaker 4: twenty points. So I don't want to make too much

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Speaker 4: of it, but we continue to wait for the defense

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Speaker 4: the shoulders of the offense, and specifically on Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: Eventually is it going to get him? And you assume

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Speaker 4: if that's gonna happen, that's gonna happen against one of

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Speaker 4: the bigger dogs later in the season. But nine to nothing,

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Speaker 4: and it continues to grow, and then the defense is

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Speaker 4: still giving up yards, giving up points. That can become

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Speaker 4: a problem real dagon quick. And so we've got to

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Speaker 4: keep our eyes on this, even though again I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's time to overreact just yet, but I definitely

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Speaker 4: have one eye on that screen and then one on

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Speaker 4: you know, the highlights and everything else that we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, Louisville fans are starting to.

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Speaker 4: Overrun.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the right word is. Louisville is

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Speaker 2: to red River Notre Dame, I just, you know, let's

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Speaker 2: just spend two minutes talking about this. Louisville is about

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Speaker 2: to win thirty three to twenty Notre Dame. Of course,

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago the final seconds they lose on literally

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Speaker 2: against Duke. What do you make of it? You don't

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Speaker 2: want to take away anything from Louisville here. You know,

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Speaker 2: they were ranked coming in, they were undefeated coming in.

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Speaker 2: They are going to improve to six to zero with

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Speaker 2: under in year one under Jeff Brohm. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, Notre Dame, you know, a team that has

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Speaker 2: always been on the verge. We thought, Sam Hartman, what

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Speaker 2: does it mean? They got Sam Hartman? They have a

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Speaker 2: grown up in the quarterback room. This is now two

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Speaker 4: I think Sam Hartman's a good football player, but I

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Speaker 4: do think that some of maybe his deficiencies or his

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Speaker 4: It is weird that he gets there and after the

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Speaker 4: that we see every year. Like it just there's something

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Speaker 4: it cost them over and over again. I mean that,

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Speaker 4: you know, I do think that the emotional loss the

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Speaker 4: should have lost that game. And then here they run

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Speaker 4: into Jeff Brown's great coach. I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 4: his obviously because he coached at Western Kentucky. He remained

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Speaker 4: after Patrino left. He was the OC and then he

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Speaker 4: Now he goes back to his alma mater, to Louisville,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not surprised that they are winning and that

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame's just kinda They're a good team, but they

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Speaker 4: lack greatness. There's something missing, and it's usually found on offense.

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Speaker 4: I am a little surprised that Hartman hasn't been more

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Speaker 2: I ask you a question, just you know, listen, I

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Speaker 2: think we can all have conversations without it immediately defaulting

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Speaker 2: into like, fire this guy, fire that guy. Whatever, What

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Speaker 2: we could say about Brian Kelly a Notre Dame and

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Speaker 2: I don't have all the stats in front of me,

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Speaker 2: were reacting in real time for people just joining us.

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Speaker 2: Louisville does put the finishing touches on this win. They

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Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame. Louisville is six and zero. Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: falls to six and two. Remember they play or I

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Speaker 2: guess would be five and two because they did play

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Speaker 2: expected to win against those non elite teams. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think even his last year, their only regular season

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Speaker 2: the playoff. Marcus Freeman, This isn't a like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we have to fire him, but like, that's not what

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Speaker 2: this is about. But I do wonder, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the guys obviously loved him. But you go nine and

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Speaker 2: four last year, you take a couple of weird losses,

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Speaker 2: including the Marshall You're now five and two this year.

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Speaker 2: Just what do you make of Marcus Freeman right now?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because it is still it's still new.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how long how long a chance you

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Speaker 4: get I don't know if it's changed because of the

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Speaker 4: condition of college football. I do think at some point

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Speaker 4: the coach can't overcome five turnovers. Sure, I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 4: that he escapes all blame here, but his quarterback threw

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Speaker 4: three picks and they turned to football over five times.

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Speaker 4: You're just not going to win very much when you

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Speaker 4: do that. Possession was almost even when you actually look

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the expectation is for Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 4: in year two. I don't know what the consensus is

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Speaker 4: all of those folks. What were they anticipating this year

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Speaker 4: to be that? I don't know. I do know that

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Speaker 4: when you look at LSU not being what we thought

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Speaker 4: little bit. Also, it's just it's not as easy to

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Speaker 4: One thing it speaks to is that Brian Kelly was

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Speaker 4: a great coach, and it is way, yes, exactly like

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Speaker 4: They were always in the mix for that Notre name

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Speaker 4: over the last two years has not been I think

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Speaker 4: that Marcus Freeman has done a nice job, and I

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Speaker 4: think that he is still learning some things as he

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Speaker 4: to actually reverse that trend and give you a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it totally fair. And your your point on the

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Speaker 2: you know, on the turnovers is very well taken. Sam Hartman,

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Speaker 3: By the way, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: USC next week was supposed to be the you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the headliners. We got washed in Oregon, but

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Speaker 4: It does one of six for three yards.

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Speaker 3: Look at that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, listen I'll just say this about first of all, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: If we remember last year, it's easy to forget now

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Speaker 2: you Cela, do you remember like last year u CLA

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Speaker 2: entered November with one loss and very much in the

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Speaker 2: I think they lost their bowl game. They go nine

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: UCLA entered November with one loss in playoff contention, and

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Speaker 2: they lost at home on a Saturday night in the

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Speaker 2: for Jason, and so I just bring it up because Arizona,

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Speaker 2: you could kind of play up. Well, you know, Washington's

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I just bring it up to say, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: That game is final, and I'll tell you what, Jason

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Speaker 2: late game in the La Coliseum. Arizona up tenh on

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Speaker 4: Something I have they maybe they entered into it a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they entered it into it a week early.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they were so busy looking ahead to a

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Speaker 3: It was ugly. Today.

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Speaker 4: Two really good football teams that looked a part is

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Speaker 4: We talked about one of the most fascinating storylines in

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Speaker 2: By the way, Arizona just completed a flea flicker deep

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Jason, you know I agree.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you know, I didn't think it's funny

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Speaker 2: Yes, they were down twenty seven to twenty, had first

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Speaker 4: You had it. If you want, if you want to

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what ends up happening with about fifteen seconds

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Speaker 4: left on the clock. It's easy for me to say

437
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Speaker 4: that now because I saw the game ended, But because

438
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Speaker 4: of the circumstances and because of what was already scoreboard,

439
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: would it have been better to give yourself a chance

440
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Speaker 4: where at worst maybe it goes to overtime, but at

441
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Speaker 4: the left but if you get that first down, then

442
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: you were able to make that kick with no time left.

443
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Speaker 4: Even if you don't score the touchdown, they never touched

444
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 4: the football again, and you controlled the end of that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I think it was tough.

446
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Speaker 2: I think I see both sides. I didn't love it

447
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: in the moment, but you get the field goal, you

448
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: take the lead, and at some point your your defense

449
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Speaker 2: just has to get a stop.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

451
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma wins really quickly, you know, in the small picture,

452
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Speaker 2: in the big picture of the SEC. Okay, whatever. By

453
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Speaker 2: the way, another thing going on here, we got ourselves

454
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Speaker 2: a situation. I'm sorry, so much going on. Georgia Tech

455
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Speaker 2: has just taken the lead. I didn't even I thank you, Lorena.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, just let's see this situation.

457
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Speaker 3: To say, yes, please, thank you.

458
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Speaker 5: Will not believe what just happened at seventeenth ran Miami

459
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Speaker 5: thirty seconds to go. They just have to take an

460
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Speaker 5: to win. They ran the ball up the middle and fumbled.

461
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech recovers. Now, granted they've got to go about

462
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Speaker 5: seventy yards.

463
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Speaker 4: They just did.

464
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Speaker 5: Georgia Tech has taken the lead on a forty four

465
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Speaker 5: yard touchdown pass in the final seconds. It's twenty three

466
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Speaker 5: to twenty. Something is under review at the moment, but

467
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Speaker 5: this is just stunning that they even had the ball

468
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Speaker 5: again in the last thirty seconds. This and Miami team

469
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Speaker 5: that was ready to go to five and zero. Georgia

470
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Speaker 5: Tech in this last HAEF minute with no timeouts, I'm thinking, okay,

471
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Speaker 5: just throw short and then you got one play left,

472
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Speaker 5: one more play with and no, they threw deep with

473
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Speaker 5: ten seconds to go and it winds up being caught

474
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Speaker 5: for a touchdown. We'll wait for the review, but at

475
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Speaker 5: the moment, it says twenty three to twenty. Georgia Tech

476
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Speaker 5: on the scoreboard at Miami, which is wearing all black,

477
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Speaker 5: and my goodness, would this be a dark time for

478
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Speaker 5: their season?

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Speaker 3: Ah if this goes number one.

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Speaker 5: Georgia defeated Kentucky fifty one to thirteen, Carson Beck four

481
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Speaker 5: touchdowns and at interception number two Michigan is six and

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Speaker 5: oh It dominated at Minnesota fifty two to ten. Oklahoma

483
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Speaker 5: got the late touchdown to beat number three Texas thirty

484
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Speaker 5: four to thirty. Ohio State and Florida State with wins

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Speaker 5: Number nine. USC is trailing at home seventeen notzing to

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Speaker 5: Arizona early second quarter. Heisman winning quarterback Caleb Williams one

487
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Speaker 5: of six passing sc as a team, rushing four carries

488
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Speaker 5: minus three yards in the first half. Louisville at home

489
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Speaker 5: beat number ten Notre Dame thirty three to twenty. By

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Speaker 5: the way, next Saturday night is USC at Notre Dame.

491
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Speaker 5: Just saying Alabama and North Carolina with wins Ole Miss

492
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Speaker 5: and LSU each one. Ucla beat number thirteen Washington State

493
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Speaker 5: twenty five seventeen. Today and Wyoming on Fox TV as

494
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Speaker 5: upset number twenty four Fresno State. It was twenty four

495
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Speaker 5: to seven at the half, twenty four to nineteen over

496
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Speaker 5: the Bulldog's the final. Fresno State had won fourteen straight games.

497
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Speaker 5: That was the second longest win streak in the country.

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Speaker 5: Number one is Georgia, which has won twenty three in

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Speaker 5: a row. Update Georgia Tech with the touchdown late twenty

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Speaker 5: three to twenty with two seconds left at seventeenth rank Miami.

501
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Speaker 6: What is going on in the world?

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Speaker 5: Connecticut was Owen Fesser wound up with a win at

503
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Speaker 5: Rice thirty eight to thirty one. Colorado with a late

504
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Speaker 5: field goal to win at Arizona State twenty seven, twenty four,

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Speaker 5: ASU one and five. This year, the Colts gave running

506
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Speaker 5: back Jonathan Taylor a three year extension. Las Vegas wide

507
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Speaker 5: receiver Davonte Williams DeVante Adams listed as questionable for Monday

508
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Speaker 5: night and it's against the Packers. Jamiir Gibbs, young running

509
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Speaker 5: back of the Lions, downgraded to doubtful with a bad

510
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Speaker 5: hamstring on the scoreboard. Believe it or not in baseball

511
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Speaker 5: from the department, kind of like this Miami game, What

512
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Speaker 5: what did you just say? The Diamondbacks are leading ten

513
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Speaker 5: at Dodger Stadium in their best of five series opener.

514
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: It's top of the seventh inning and the Braves, who

515
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Speaker 5: dominated the regular season, got shut out at home by

516
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 5: Philadelphia three to nothing. FS one will have the American

517
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Speaker 5: League playoffs again tomorrow, starting at four pm Eastern time.

518
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: Wins today for Texas and Houston. Houston, with Justin Verlander

519
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 5: getting the win, beat Minnesota six to four. Texas held

520
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Speaker 5: on three to two at Baltimore. Craziness. We're just starting

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Speaker 5: this show back to you.

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Speaker 2: You're darn right to Seger, just getting started here. Air Tours,

523
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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio. Jason, listen, I don't want

524
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Speaker 2: to turn this into an Arizona USC play by play.

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Speaker 4: Did you just see what happened?

526
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Speaker 3: I saw fumble?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I mean there was a giant.

528
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Speaker 2: Pass before that, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And then like literally when I just said it, because

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Speaker 4: I think I was on a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: delay from where you were. Man, this is I don't

532
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Speaker 4: know what to say about this. We're not the USC

533
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Speaker 4: Radio network or the Arizona Wildcats. Radio's slowly becoming that

534
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Speaker 4: at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, our job is to keep you updated on

536
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Speaker 2: what's going on in the world of sports this very

537
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Speaker 2: second and the moment de Sagers Mike gets cut. Arizona

538
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: recovers a fumble for people just joining us. Arizona up

539
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: seventeen nothing at the LA Coliseum, early second quarter, a

540
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: fumble recovery Caleb Williams fumbles it. You know, we thought

541
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Speaker 2: we were gonna just solely be talking about Red River

542
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Speaker 2: and solely be talking about uh, solely be talking about uh,

543
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Speaker 2: maybe you know, Alabama, Texas, A and M. But we

544
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Speaker 2: got all sorts of stuff going on here as USC

545
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: again trailing seventeen to nothing, Arizona has the ball. Jason,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's really quickly talk Bama, A and M here

547
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: because Bama comes, you know, Bama. Listen. We were on air,

548
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: you know, right after the Texas game three weeks ago,

549
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Speaker 2: and they lose at home to Texas and everyone's having

550
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Speaker 2: the conversation the dynasty is dead. They don't look very good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously a lot of that was Texas being

552
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Speaker 2: pretty good. But fast forward, they've won four straight games.

553
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: They have clearly found something with Jalen Milroe at quarterback.

554
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe has clearly found something in himself as he

555
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. I think the toughest test of their schedule

556
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Speaker 2: for the rest of the way was at Texas A

557
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Speaker 2: and M. Today they win twenty six to twenty. That

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Speaker 2: Alabama team that everyone gave up on all of a

559
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: sudden clear path to the SEC title one loss. Everything

560
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Speaker 2: that everyone said Alabama couldn't do, they're in position to

561
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Speaker 2: do as they are alone in first place in the

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Speaker 2: SEC West. And again I think they won their toughest

563
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Speaker 2: game left on the schedule today.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I still don't think they're a great team,

565
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Speaker 4: but I think they benefit this year, particularly from a

566
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Speaker 4: kind of subpar SEC West. There's not just that definitive team,

567
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Speaker 4: so Alabama can still be that team. I also go

568
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Speaker 4: back to the game that Milroe did not play, and

569
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Speaker 4: I don't think it was intentionally done this way, but

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Speaker 4: I remember the speculation. I remember us even talking about

571
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Speaker 4: it the week before. It's like, how bad must these

572
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Speaker 4: other two guys be if Milroe was in there, because

573
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Speaker 4: he didn't look good for three quarters in the game prior,

574
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Speaker 4: and then I thought he looked good in the fourth

575
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Speaker 4: quarter of that game against Texas. But it's like, well,

576
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Speaker 4: if he's your guy, then how bad. Are these other guys? Well,

577
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Speaker 4: we got to see it, and I think that, whether

578
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Speaker 4: intentional or not, it ended the questions as to who

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Speaker 4: should be the quarterback for Alabama. And I mean for

580
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Speaker 4: the detractors, for those that are giant Alabama fans and

581
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Speaker 4: those that are in those stands that are yelling about

582
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Speaker 4: every decision that is made, you couldn't question it anymore because, Okay, well,

583
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Speaker 4: Milroe is better than these guys, and I think maybe

584
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Speaker 4: it actually took some of the pressure off of him

585
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Speaker 4: and enabled him to play a little bit freer. And

586
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Speaker 4: then when you look at everything else that has happened

587
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Speaker 4: since he's played better football, he's played a little bit freer.

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Speaker 4: He's starting to feel I think, more comfort maybe in

589
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Speaker 4: the position. And it feels like to me his guys

590
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Speaker 4: around him are looking at him differently, not that he's

591
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Speaker 4: some world beater, but that he is their guy and

592
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Speaker 4: that they will go to battle with him.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: By the way, another quick update from the coliseum. Arizona's

595
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Speaker 2: thrown an interception, so USC now has the ball in

596
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Speaker 2: the red zone. USC trailing seventeen to nothing early in

597
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Speaker 2: the second quarter. What I'll say about about Alabama, Listen,

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Speaker 2: you know what stinks. You know, we're privileged to do

599
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Speaker 2: what we do every Saturday night, but only being on

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Speaker 2: every Saturday, you know, we reacted in real time to

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Speaker 2: the Texas loss and the South Florida loss, and there's

602
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Speaker 2: so much discourse in between during the week, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I saw all sorts of stuff about oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, why was he really benched? And you know,

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Speaker 2: was there they went back to him so quickly? Was

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Speaker 2: there a revolts in the like he saw all these

607
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Speaker 2: crazy things? And listen, I you shouldn't like it sounds

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Speaker 2: weird giving credit to the greatest coach in the history

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Speaker 2: of college football. But I think we all everyone kind

610
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Speaker 2: of tried to figure out is there something that we

611
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Speaker 2: don't know about? I think Nick Saban just realized my

612
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: defense is special and Jalen Milroe's legs are probably the

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Speaker 2: greatest attribute that any of my quarterbacks have. And so

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because I think those first few

615
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Speaker 2: weeks were just about getting him reps.

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Speaker 4: Win.

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Speaker 2: However, you gotta win. That's exactly what they did. They

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Speaker 2: beat Ole miss they beat Mississippi State, and then today

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Speaker 2: I'll give the kid credit. He has really developed as

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Speaker 2: a passer three hundred and twenty one yards, three touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton nine catches, one hundred ninety seven yards. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he looked like a legitimate SEC you know, championship caliber,

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Speaker 2: playoff caliber quarterback. Now does he have, you know, the

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Speaker 2: the upside of a Michael Pennix or a Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: or whomever. I don't know, but he is slowly developing.

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Speaker 2: And I give Saban credit is because I do think

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Speaker 2: he kind of had a fork in the road moment

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Speaker 2: with this team, which was like, okay, you know, even

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Speaker 2: if you watch the Texas game, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it just it didn't even look the same as what

631
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Speaker 2: they were trying to do today as far as with

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Speaker 2: the offense. And then again, I think that defense is

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Speaker 2: just really really really special. A and M with three

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Speaker 2: points after the half today in that game, Jason, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, I do want to come back, and

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 2: the Jimbo Fisher aspect of things, because he likes Steve Sarkisian.

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00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: We just talked about sark a minute ago. Had some

639
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: questionable decisions, maybe cost him the game, maybe didn't, but

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Speaker 2: it obviously leaves for a very interesting conversation down in

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Speaker 2: college station. By the way, us he has scored Caleb

642
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Williams rushing touchdown Arizona seventeen to seven. They are up

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Speaker 2: on the USC Trojans.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Texas A and m perspective on

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Speaker 2: things that's next. Fox Sports Tritio.

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Speaker 2: Keeping the updated on the big one at the LA Coliseum,

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Speaker 2: Arizona up seventeen to seven on the USC Trojans midway

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Speaker 2: through the third quarter. Second quarter, excuse me, USC trailing

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00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: Arizona by ten. Will keep you updated on this one.

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00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: It is a wild result amongst a night full of

678
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: wild results.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame loses at Louisville.

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Speaker 2: And for people who missed the end of the Miami game,

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00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: insanity as Miami could have run out the clock with

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Speaker 2: a knee they fumble instead. Georgia Tech ends up scoring

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Speaker 2: and winning the game. Jason, I do want to stay

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Speaker 2: on the game. We were just talking about Alabama beats

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M twenty six to twenty and Alabama

686
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Speaker 2: credit to them. You know, they were left for dead whatever,

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00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. They're now five and one, completely controlled

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: the SEC West Texas A and M. So we all

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00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: know of the situation with Jimbo Fisher and you know,

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: the huge buyout and all that stuff. I bring it

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Speaker 2: up to say, today felt like the day where anybody

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00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: who was still clinging to hope that like, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe whatever like this, Like there was a like, if

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Speaker 2: they won today, there was a pathway of like, Okay,

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00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: the SEC West is down, as you said, and they

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Speaker 2: they might be able to really make a run here.

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Speaker 3: Instead, they lose the game. A couple coaching things, including punting. Again,

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Speaker 3: we talked about Sark a minute ago. It was seventeen seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Late in the third they were in Alabama territory at

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Speaker 2: about the forty five and decided to punt on a

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Speaker 2: fourth and one.

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Speaker 3: Alabama outscored them nine to three.

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Speaker 2: After that, they ended up you know, they ended up

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Speaker 2: scoring on the next drive Alabama and they never got

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Speaker 2: the lead back. So I bring it up to say,

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Speaker 2: just just where are you at where are we at

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Speaker 2: on Jimbo? They're five and two four and two right now,

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: clearly improved last year. But but it's obviously when you

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Speaker 2: have a nine and a half million dollars a year salary,

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00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: being improved from five and seven is not enough. Just

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00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: what do you make of his whole situation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is the kind of game that

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00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: you pay him a ton of money to win, and look,

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Speaker 4: he has done that in his past. But considering the

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Speaker 4: scenes in that you had last year, and you get

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Speaker 4: into this game and Alabama seems vulnerable, maybe even more

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Speaker 4: so than you thought they were the year that you

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Speaker 4: got them. You look at it and I think you

719
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: walk away disappointed from this and you just say, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, can we can we do better than this?

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Speaker 4: Are we asking too much? If we're asking somebody to

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Speaker 4: do more than this? They are better than they were

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Speaker 4: last year, There's I don't think there's any doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: I think the offense looks looks crisper. I think that

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Speaker 4: many of the guys that they've recruited look a lot

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Speaker 4: closer to what you would have ass assume they would

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00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: have entering school. I think that my take on Jimbo

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: has always been the same. I think he's fine. I

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: just have never seen anything remarkable about him. I don't

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: see anything just otherworldly special about him. I think he

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: is in the mix of good football coaches. But when

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Speaker 4: you pay him that kind of money, you were paying

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Speaker 4: him on the basis of expectations that I believe wholeheartedly

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Speaker 4: he has failed to live up to. And the question

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Speaker 4: is how long is are those that make the decisions

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Speaker 4: at a university that has a ton of money and

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Speaker 4: a ton of pride, how long are they going to

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Speaker 4: sit there and let him be basically Kevin Someone. This

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Speaker 4: is the argument that Kevin Someone was fine too. You

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Speaker 4: weren't paying Kevin Someone the same thing that you're now

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Speaker 4: paying Jimbo Fisher. He's brought in a lot of recruiting classes,

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Speaker 4: but you haven't gotten anything with him. You have a

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Speaker 4: two loss team that again is not going to be

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Speaker 4: a player when it comes to the college football playoff

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Speaker 4: at the end of the year. So your ceiling is

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Speaker 4: now hopefully managing a New Year's six Bowl, and maybe

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Speaker 4: you don't even end up there. I just I don't

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Speaker 4: know how long the leash is for him. Like we

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Speaker 4: had the same talk about Freeman, but it's different for

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Speaker 4: Freeman Freeman. It's because it's new and because it's a

751
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Speaker 4: different it's a different location, it's a harder place to recruit.

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Speaker 4: He's coming off of, you know, Brian Kelly's tenure there.

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Speaker 4: Everything has changed. You're trying to kind of get your

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Speaker 4: feet around this landscape. For Jimbo, it's not like he

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Speaker 4: got there two years ago. He's been there for a while.

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Speaker 4: And I just don't think that the results Aaron have

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Speaker 4: proven out to have made all of what they've put

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Speaker 4: in and invested in him as the guy. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that he I don't think he's paid dividends at all.

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Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt. And I think the frustrating part

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Speaker 2: for A and M is a couple things. Is one,

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Speaker 2: first of all, like the pathway was there. You know,

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Speaker 2: we watch LSU E. LSU, by the way, is a

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Speaker 2: great watch. They're not a very good defense right now,

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Speaker 2: and so you know LSU is struggling. Old Miss barely

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Speaker 2: survived against Arkansas this week. And so you look at

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M and it's like this is the

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Speaker 2: year you get Bama at home. They're not what the

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Speaker 2: Bama that we've seen, at least not offensively, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the frustrating part. And then I think the

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Speaker 2: other thing was, you know, just some of the coaching decisions.

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Speaker 2: It's like, like you said, you're paid nine and a

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Speaker 2: half million dollars, you're paid to win these games.

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Speaker 3: But but also it did feel like there was.

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Speaker 2: A degree of coaching scared, like I said, punting, you know,

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Speaker 2: in a tie game at you know, fourth and one

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Speaker 2: at the forty five. And I think that's the frustrating

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Speaker 2: part is that it's kind of I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say it was all built for this year. You are

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Speaker 2: technically playing with a backup quarterback, although he has a

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Speaker 2: ton of SEC experience, and you are still relatively young.

782
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Speaker 2: But it's like those just sound like excuses you're good

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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: enough to beat Alabama, And so I look at it,

784
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I mean, I do think his future

785
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: probably comes down to next week they play at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: If you don't win that one, you're four and three

787
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: and you still have that lsu at ole miss It's

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00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: hard to imagine you have the kind of season that

789
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Speaker 2: you wanted. But I just think there's disappointment because the

790
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 2: pathway was there, you had moments, you had the chance,

791
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Speaker 2: he didn't execute Jase.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree. I mean, I think that's exactly right.

793
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 4: And you're right, that's a huge football game next week,

794
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: and if you want the truth, as long as Milton

795
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: plays decently, I don't think Texas A and m Beach Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: I think we're having a much different and a much

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00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: more serious level similar discussion that we're having right now.

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have it again a week from now.

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Speaker 2: Right about now, Yeah, maybe we should save the heavy

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00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: gimo conversation for next week because it could be pretty

801
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: toxic if they lose next week at Neiland Stadium. So

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00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Texas A and m loses, Alabama wins and a lot

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Speaker 2: of college football that we covered all day, we will

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Speaker 2: switch gears to the NFL Dallas, San Francisco. We got

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Speaker 2: to break it down next Fox Portrio, thank you, thank you, oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you. No no applause needed. Sports Radio Aeron Torus

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Speaker 2: you updated on the late one. De Seger just told you,

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00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: But the Trojans USC trailing seventeen to seven, gets the

814
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats right before the half. USC is in the

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00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: red zone. Though thirteen seconds left on the clock. They

816
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: should be able to get some points before halftime. Here

817
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: do have a couple of timeouts. We'll keep you updated

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: if they score. Here. Talked to a lot of college

819
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Speaker 2: football in our one, Jason, but we'd be remiss if

820
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: we did not talk some NFL because you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's a fun time of year. First of all,

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00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: October just a great, great month. You know, baseball on

823
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: all day for the Dodgers fans listening, you know, sorry

824
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: about how things started off today, Same with the Braves

825
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Speaker 2: saying all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, point I'm trying to make it's.

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Speaker 2: A great month, and I think in the NFL we're

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Speaker 2: really starting to figure out who's who, what's what, what

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Speaker 2: it all means. As we are now into Week five

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Speaker 2: and the big one. You know we're gonna preview all

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00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: the big games in our three. But I don't think

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00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: we need to wait until you know, the one AM

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Speaker 2: hour to talk a little bit of Cowboys forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, arguably the two biggest brands in

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Speaker 2: the sport, if not the two biggest, pretty darn close

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Speaker 2: to it historic rivals. Anybody over the age of thirty

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Speaker 2: or so remembers those great matchups every year in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy Johnson's team, Barry Switzer, Steve Young and

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Speaker 2: mi Itt Smith, Troy Aikman, but also two really really

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Speaker 2: good teams. I mean, Dallas is obviously coming off the dominant,

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Speaker 2: dominant win over the New England Patriots. They're sitting at

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Speaker 2: three and one, an elite defense. And then the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers. I mean, you know, I guess

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Speaker 2: you could argue for Philadelphia. I guess you could argue

845
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: maybe for Buffalo, But for my money, San Francisco has

846
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: been the best team in the NFL so far. They're

847
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: coming in at four and oh, they themselves off a

848
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: dominant win over the Arizona Cardinals. This will be the

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Speaker 2: Sunday night game standalone, everybody will be watching. What do

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00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: you expect when these two teams get together at LEVI stadium, Jason, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, I expect it's going to be It's going to

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00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: live up to the billing. I think San Francisco right

853
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: now is the best team in football. And it's it's

854
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: interesting because I don't know how much we fully believe

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00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 4: in brock perty yet, but he hasn't really given any

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00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: reason for you not to believe in him. And Dak

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00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: Dak is always going to have his detractors and critics,

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00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: but he has. He looked great last week, and we

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00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: know what their defense does. We know what both defenses

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00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: actually do. I think it's maybe just a completion thing

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: in terms of who is the more complete team and

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00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: what's the difference between the two. You have stars on

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00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 4: both sides. I think the one guy that you have

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Speaker 4: on one side that you don't have on the other

865
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Speaker 4: is Christian McCaffrey. I think McCaffrey is maybe the difference

866
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: between the two teams because you do have a Bosa

867
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: and a Micah Parsons and a Fred Warner and guys

868
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: on both sides and get the job done quarterbacks that

869
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: are not the top of the league, but certainly guys

870
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: that are more than serviceable. Even if you're being kind

871
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: of mean to them in those descriptors. But Christian McCaffrey

872
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: is a weapon that the Cowboys don't have, So that

873
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: to me becomes kind of the crux of it. Can

874
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: the Cowboys slow down Christian McCaffrey and force Perdy to

875
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 4: beat them through the air with the receiving game, with

876
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: the pass game. If they can force that, they've got

877
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: a good chance to win the football game. If they

878
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: can't and McCaffrey is able to do and then that

879
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: was the story last week. The Cardinals have played better

880
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: than I think anybody had any right to believe that

881
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 4: they were going to Josh Dobbs has looked good. They've

882
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: played like a team that did not quit. They are

883
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: They're better than I thought they were gonna be, point blank.

884
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: They beat the Cowboys one of the weirdest results all year,

885
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: of course, and then last year, I mean, or last week.

886
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: They gave San Francisco a game for a while and

887
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: then San Francisco just kind of pulled away from them late,

888
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: But it was really McCaffrey that did it. So to me,

889
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: it's all about Christian McCaffrey tomorrow.

890
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: The only thing I would disagree with on that is

891
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: I do kind of think we know who brock Perty

892
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: is and you know, and you and I talked about

893
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: this little bit last week. But I mean, first of all,

894
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: last year, what is it seven regular season starts something

895
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: like that plus two playoff games before he gets hurt

896
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: against Philadelphia for so far this year, like and we

897
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: talked about this last week, but I think at some

898
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: point we just have to acknowledge, like he's a really

899
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: good NFL quarterback. And it's not as though it's unprecedented

900
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: for a guy that comes a little bit off the radar,

901
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: somebody that we're not as familiar with. I mean, look

902
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: at the guy who he's opposing. I mean, Dak Prescott

903
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: was a what third fourth round pick himself, so you know,

904
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Tom Brady. It goes without saying guys can't emerge.

905
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: And so I look at brock Party and I know

906
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: exactly who he is, and does he have the upside

907
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: of a Mahomes or an Allen or whomever, Trevor Lawrence,

908
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. No, but you don't need you know, you

909
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: don't need Lamar Jackson in this offense. You don't need

910
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes with this defense. And so I'm so excited

911
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: about this game, but I also like, I think I

912
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: know who he is. Like, I just think we have

913
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: enough of a sample size now where it went from

914
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: being a cute story last year to like, this is

915
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: just a good, solid NFL quarterback. And again, quarterbacks come

916
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: in all shapes and sizes, and they come from different

917
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: places small school, big school, first round, late round, and

918
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: I just think he's that guy. By the way, USC

919
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: has scored a touchdown a cut of lead to seventeen

920
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: or fourteen right before the half. Jason keep any updated

921
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: on that one. USC trailing by three going into the half.

922
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, am I crazy? I think like the

923
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Brock party thing was like cool and cute and unique and.

924
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: Different a year now. I think we're four.

925
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: Games into the season, and I know that the schedule

926
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: hasn't necessarily been the toughest. The Rams probably the tough

927
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: the best win that they have in terms of the

928
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: quality of competition. I just think he's a really good

929
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, even if his route to getting there is

930
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: certainly untraditional.

931
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I guess it just depends on

932
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: what you what you look at in terms of the

933
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: ceiling and his capabilities and what does the best version

934
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: of Brock Party look like? I can understand question of

935
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 4: certain aspects real quick.

936
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: Would you say the ceiling for Brock Purty or the

937
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: best version of Brock Party? Would you say it's the

938
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: same as Dak, worse than Dak, better than Dak.

939
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: I'd say it's somewhere in the vicinity.

940
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: That's what I think too, And that's my that's my

941
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: whole thing is you know, and I think this will

942
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: obviously be like a you know, a pseudo interesting case

943
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: study this year of whoever comes out of the NFC

944
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: probably isn't going to have elite quarterback play. Are you

945
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: going to be able to win a Super Bowl if

946
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: you're going up against the Mahomes, a Burrow probably not Burrough,

947
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, but a Mahomes and Allen a Trevor Lawrence.

948
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: But to me, it's like, if you think with that

949
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: defense that the Cowboys are capable of making a super

950
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Bowl or potentially even winning a super Bowl with Dak

951
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: as the quarterback, then I feel like you have to

952
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: feel the same way. Not you, but I think the

953
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: set the population should feel like if Dak can get

954
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: you to the Promised Land and potentially gets you win there.

955
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: I think it should be the same with Brock Party.

956
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: I think they're about the same. As the point that

957
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make.

958
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair, I do. I mean, I

959
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: think that it's not like Party's a twenty fifth best

960
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: quarterback in the league. He's also not the first best,

961
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: but neither is Dak. Dak somewhere. I usually have him

962
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: ranked somewhere in like the twelve to fifteen range, somewhere

963
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: in that neighborhood like, and there's times when you're better

964
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: than twelve, and sometimes when you're worse than fifteen. Party

965
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: I haven't really seen much worse than fifteen, because again,

966
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: he's doing what he's asked to do. He's not out

967
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 4: there manufacturing a bunch. And one thing he does not

968
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: do is turn the ball over. Just he does a

969
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: very nice job of not making the big mistake, and

970
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: sometimes Dak has been known to make that mistake. But

971
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: I think that they're both they're both pretty good NFL

972
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks at this stage in their career. I think you

973
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 4: could do a lot worse than either one of them.

974
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 4: I know that sounds like faint praise. It sounds like

975
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: a back ending compliment. It's really not. It's there's a

976
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: lot of teams in the league that would like to

977
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: have both of those two guys. But I also think

978
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: that in particular, Party benefits from the system that he's

979
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: in and the way that he's wired to actually understand

980
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: and execute that system. For Kyle Shanahan, there's zero doubt.

981
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I remember when so you and

982
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: I were filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon

983
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: the night that Trey Lance got traded, and I, you know,

984
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: and the audience, you know, we saw some stuff on

985
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: Twitter and whatever. I understand Twitter X, whatever you want

986
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: to call it. It's not a be all end all,

987
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: but every you know, why are you guys not criticizing

988
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers? Why they wasted all these this

989
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: draft capital to get him and now they're just giving

990
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: him up for whatever. And I remember, like, yeah, it

991
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: was it was a bad trade, there's no doubt about it.

992
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: But why I bring it up is because I think

993
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: one of the things that we talked about that night

994
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: that I vividly remember is like, maybe Trey Lance just

995
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: was never gonna be the right quarterback for Kyle Shanahan.

996
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: Because Kyle Shanahan doesn't need a It's I don't say

997
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't need a superstar quarterback.

998
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do the whole thing of like.

999
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh, the coaching in the scheme overcomes everything, Like no,

1000
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm I you know, it'd be nice to have a

1001
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes or an out But but I guess what I'm

1002
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: trying to say is like that system is so about

1003
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: like like you just said, there's balance, there's creativity. You

1004
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: have McCaffrey, you have Ayuk, you have Debo. You don't

1005
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: need Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. What you need is

1006
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: a guy that that can distribute the ball, that can

1007
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: get the ball to the right person. I remember somebody

1008
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: said that somebody made this comparison. Uh, and it's gonna

1009
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: sound crazy, and let me speak it out. Okay, So

1010
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: what they said was, it's almost like Tom Brady. And

1011
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing Brock Perdy to the greatest quarterback that's

1012
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: ever lived. But what the football people will tell you

1013
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: about Tom Brady is that if you give him the

1014
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: same thing, you know, twenty times in a game, twenty

1015
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: times in a game. And I'm paraphrasing here, but if

1016
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: you give him a little five yard out or whatever,

1017
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: and he can, he knows he could.

1018
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: He'll just do it. Do it, do it, do it,

1019
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: do it.

1020
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: In other words, like his ego never his ego of

1021
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: wanting to show off the deep ball or you know,

1022
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: get tired of running. Like no, like if that, if

1023
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: one thing is there, he's gonna go to it a

1024
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: million times because he knows what that's that's what you

1025
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: need to move the chains, move you know, move the ball,

1026
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: score points and win the game. And that's kind of

1027
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: what I see from brock Purty is like, yeah, there's

1028
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: not a lot of sizzle and yeah, like sometimes like

1029
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: what he does is boring, but it's like the boring

1030
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: is you know, sometimes the boring is whatever. And you're

1031
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: executing and you're doing what needs to be done within

1032
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: the system with the skill talent that you have, with

1033
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: the defense that you have, and it might not be

1034
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: the sexiest thing in the world, but like you said, Jason,

1035
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: he takes care of the football. He gets the football

1036
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: to where it needs to go. And this guy just

1037
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: keeps winning games.

1038
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you surround that with the defense that

1039
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: they have, with the brain power of Kyle Shanahan that

1040
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: he kind of constructs that offense the way he utilizes

1041
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: those weapons. And then certainly when you've got a Kittle

1042
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: and I yuke, a Deebo Samuel, and then you have

1043
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: the cheat code of Christian McCaffrey that can help you

1044
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: through pretty much any second or third and long situation.

1045
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: Because of his versatility, it puts you in a position

1046
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 4: as brock Perty, where you're it's not a bunch on

1047
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: your shoulders. All you have to do is just it's

1048
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: not really being a caretaker. It's not being a game

1049
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: manager or anything like that, because I do think brock

1050
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: Perty has stepped up and made some actual plays for

1051
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: his football team, but it's not all on his shoulders.

1052
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: I mean, like tonight we're watching Caleb Williams in the

1053
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: USC Arizona game, and it's still all on on Caleb's shoulders.

1054
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: It is every single week we recognize that for Party,

1055
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: it's not on him to go out and win and

1056
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: produce six hundred yard games. It's just on him to

1057
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: execute the offense as it's laid out for him. And

1058
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: I think he does an excellent job of it.

1059
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: I think he does an excellent job of it. And

1060
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: I think we are in for a great game. Obviously,

1061
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: this this Dallas defense probably was the toughest challenge that

1062
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: he saw in his first year as a quarterback a

1063
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: year ago, and I think it'll be the toughest challenge

1064
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: by far that he has seen so far this season.

1065
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,600
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1066
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: have talked about this Dallas San Francisco game. Because football fans,

1067
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1069
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1070
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1072
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1073
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1074
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,080
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1075
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Speaker 2: up we are gonna talk Thursday night, is there anything

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00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: to learn about Bear's Commanders and what is the future

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00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: of the commanders after that loss? We discuss it next

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Aertorris,

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00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from thetirereck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's so handsome. What's his name?

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00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 6: Anyway?

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00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, that was my cardib impression there. I may have

1084
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: been talking about myself there, Patrick anyway, all right, Fox

1085
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, let's get back to football. That was Cardibu

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00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tirereck dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 2: Jason Thursday Night Football, Bear's twenty commanders or excuse me,

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: Bear's forty commanders twenty Um, let me ask you a question.

1089
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: So the Bears first went in forever, I don't want

1090
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: to be a wet blanket over one. Well, here's my question.

1091
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: Justin Fields listen to be clear, let the record show

1092
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: if anyone's a Bears fan that's listening, I'm happy for

1093
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: your team. I'm not rooting against Justin Fields. By the way,

1094
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: I thought he was QB two in that draft I

1095
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 2: would have taken if I'm the Jets. So let let

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: me put that on the record, right, I agree? Okay,

1097
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: A lot of excitement from that win. He finished the

1098
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: game fifteen of twenty nine passing, had two hundred and

1099
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: eighty two yards. Two hundred and thirty of them were

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: to DJ Moore. I would venture to guess half of those,

1101
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: and maybe I don't have the exact stat in front

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Speaker 2: of me, but I would venture to guess about half

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00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: of those, if not more, were after the catch. In

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: other words, there was that, you know, the one or

1105
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: two long plays where guy was either going for the

1106
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: ball and missed it and ended up, you know, missing

1107
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: the tackle or whatever. I guess what I'm trying to

1108
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: say is, you know, listen, I want the Bears fans

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: to celebrate, enjoy this moment whatever. I don't know that

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 2: it fundamentally changes all that much about how I feel

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00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: about Chicago or Justin Field's going for.

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00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 4: I don't know what you learn from it. I can

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: tell you that if you go back and you look

1114
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 4: at the Commanders last few weeks, they got annihilated at

1115
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 4: home against Buffalo again looks legit. And then they lost

1116
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: a really tough, emotional game on the road at Philadelphia

1117
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 4: by a field goal. That one was one that could

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: have gone either way. That was a hard fought game

1119
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: that went to overtime. And then after you lose that game,

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Speaker 4: you immediately four days later have to play again. So

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: I think there was a deflation after that law Us

1122
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: when you look at how it all played out. I mean,

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 4: they had a seventeen to ten lead at the half

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00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 4: against Philadelphia. Then you know it's a very close game

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00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: going into that final Stanza, you find yourself into overtime,

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: and then you still managed to lose a game that

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: was winnable in division and won against you know, defending

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: conference champions and arrival and all of this. So I

1129
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: think then you go play a winless Bears team on

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: the day that Dick Buckius passes away and you get smoked.

1131
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: And I don't know what you take away from it

1132
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: other than Washington is not great. They can be dangerous,

1133
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: but they're also very inconsistent and they do some kind

1134
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: of sketchy things from time to time. And we've seen

1135
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: the Bears at times look competent offensively. I mean they

1136
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: dominated Denver until they didn't just for example. So we've

1137
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: seen Fields make some play. I mean, he's been exciting

1138
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 4: at times. I remember how we were talking about him

1139
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: on various occasions last season. Long term, the Bears are

1140
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: still a bad football team. I mean that's not gonna change.

1141
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: I don't think I mean the fact that they beat

1142
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: Washington by twenty only means that they have one win

1143
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: this year. That's about all I learned about him. That

1144
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: division is still Detroit speriod.

1145
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, and this might be

1146
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a controversial take. Maybe it's

1147
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: not at all. So I'm gonna before I get to

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: the main question, I'm gonna ask you a few questions.

1149
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: Do you think.

1150
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: That Ron Rivera is the long term answer as head

1151
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: coach at quarterback the head coach in Washington?

1152
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: No?

1153
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: Do you think Sam Howell is the long term answer

1154
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: at quarterback for Washington?

1155
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: I think he's been given the opportunity, but no.

1156
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: So my question is this, if you know at the

1157
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: very least that Ron Rivera is pro Listen, Ron Rivera, Okay, listen.

1158
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: I understand he's dealt with all sorts. It's crazy stuff,

1159
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, ownership, change, Dan Snyder, you know whatever. Same time,

1160
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: he's a sixty one year old guy, a defensive head

1161
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: coach twenty four thirty and one now in year four

1162
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: with this team. I don't think he's the answer. I

1163
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think like anybody thinks he's the answer.

1164
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's like, well, you know, I mean, yeah,

1165
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: Philly and Dallas, I mean they're really rolling. But but

1166
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: give Ron Rivera another year or two. Here's my question.

1167
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: Tell me, and you could just tell me if I'm

1168
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: totally off base and being totally unfair. If you know

1169
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera is not the answer, is it time to

1170
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: just maybe I don't know, I hate to say it,

1171
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: but get rid of him and give Eric Benemy the

1172
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: keys and see if he can do anything with this team.

1173
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: Like, I just feel like, you know, I don't feel

1174
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: like Ron Rivera is the answer.

1175
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: I feel like you brought in Eric Bienemy because you know,

1176
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: everybody kind of knows as has he been worthy of

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: a head coaching opportunity? Probably he hasn't gotten one. Is

1178
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: it for you know, unjust reasons? Is it you know, discrimination?

1179
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: Is it because he's not the primary play caller in KC.

1180
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: I just feel like if everybody feels like he's a

1181
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: guy that could be a potential head coach, and you know,

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01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera is not the guy. And oh, by the way,

1183
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: you're not winning the division, like you're two and three.

1184
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know, I am I just totally

1185
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: off base for even suggesting that.

1186
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you brought in Rivera because

1188
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 4: Rivera was an adult and a childish franchise, Like there

1189
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: has just been so much turmoil and so much underperforming

1190
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: and so many just problems on and off the field

1191
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 4: and mistakes made and guys that were acquired, and just

1192
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 4: it was a dumpster fire. So you brought in a

1193
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: guy that had a lot of respect in the league,

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01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 4: that was an adult, that was gonna go in there

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: and be a stabilizing force for an unstable isotope over

1196
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: for franchise. And that's what he did. He's going to

1197
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: bring respectability for the most parts of what's happening there,

1198
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: even if they're bad, they're not going to be embarrassing

1199
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: all of that. But I don't think that Ron Rivera

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: was also was going to go there and win multiple

1201
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. I don't think he was. I think that

1202
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 4: this had to be done as a progression. It couldn't

1203
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: be done all in one fail swoop. But when you

1204
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 4: bring in Eric b Enemy all of a sudden, you

1205
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 4: do maybe have the future right there on your sidelines.

1206
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: You bring him in, and I think that many look

1207
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: at that and say, well, I mean, he's a guy

1208
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 4: that we thought should have been a head coach for

1209
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: a long time, and we'll we'll leave off the stuff

1210
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: that we have talked about and kind of know about

1211
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: his past and maybe why some of this hasn't happened.

1212
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: But he's there now. And if you're your your thought

1213
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: then is why not go ahead and pull the trigger

1214
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: on this because we can go ahead and get REPS

1215
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 4: as a new organization that understands that we are in

1216
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: a process of growth, not trying to win immediately in

1217
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: terms of a Super Bowl. We are building for the future,

1218
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: and we're going ahead and moving on from the caretaker

1219
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 4: or the stabilizing force to maybe the one that gets

1220
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: us over the hump.

1221
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you what.

1222
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: I will fully explain kind of my thought process with

1223
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: all this in just a moment. But before we do,

1224
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: let's toss it over the news desk Steve Sager. We

1225
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: do have a final at Dodger Stadium. Go ahead and

1226
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: give us all the details.

1227
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, all these four Division Series openers are done. Arizona

1228
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: lead in LA nine to nothing in the second inning,

1229
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 5: eleven nothing in the eighth, eleven to two. The final,

1230
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: the loss to Clayton Kershaw and Atlanta, top seed in

1231
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 5: the National League, which had one hundred and four wins

1232
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 5: regular season, got shut out at home by Philadelphia three

1233
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 5: to nothing. This is how great the Braves were offensively

1234
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 5: this season. I heard a stat on the National radio

1235
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 5: broadcast today that, as we've talked about on the Saturday

1236
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 5: Night Show, and this eventually happened, Braves tied the all

1237
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 5: time record most home runs by a team in one season.

1238
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 5: It was over three hundred. They had the guy who

1239
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 5: led the Major leagues in home run, Matt Olsen, with

1240
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 5: fifty four. Here's the stat. Even if you take away

1241
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 5: every Matt Olsen home run, all fifty four from the

1242
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: Braves total, they still would have led the majors in

1243
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 5: home runs this year. And they got shot out three

1244
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 5: to nothing by the Phillies today. American League Division Series

1245
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 5: openers Texas holds on three to two at Baltimore. Orioles

1246
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: won one hundred and one games this year and are

1247
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 5: the top seed in that best of five. And for

1248
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: the American League Playoffs, two seed Houston sixt' four winners

1249
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 5: over Minnesota, the win to Justin Verlander, who pitched six

1250
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 5: scoreless innings. And then there's the craziness tonight of college football.

1251
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech had no business winning at Miami five seconds ago.

1252
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 8: He will toss it in to the instal touchdown Jackets.

1253
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 8: Touchdown Jackets won second left.

1254
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: Question, Larry Georgia techs shorts network. They got the ball

1255
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 5: because Miami did not take a knee with thirty seconds left.

1256
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 5: They ran a play into the line and fumbled, and

1257
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 5: a Georgia Tech offense that hear this on its first

1258
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 5: eleven drives had only ten first downs tonight, then recovers

1259
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 5: the fumble and goes four plays seventy four yards and

1260
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 5: wins the game on that forty four yard touchdown pass

1261
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 5: with two seconds to go, twenty three to twenty. Georgia

1262
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: Tech wins at seventeenth ranked Miami, which was four to

1263
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 5: oh but committed five turnovers. Tonight, I repeat, Georgia Tech

1264
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: was out of timeouts and Miami did not take a knee.

1265
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: Mario Christobal did this five years ago at Oregon in

1266
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 5: the last two minutes.

1267
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 6: By the way, not taking a knee.

1268
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 5: We had Louisville upsetting number ten Notre Dame thirty three

1269
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: to twenty with sixteen straight points in the fourth quarter.

1270
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 5: We had an upset at the Rose Bowl UCLA over

1271
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: thirteenth ranked Washington State. Upset in that the Bruins are

1272
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 5: not ranked twenty five to seventeen the final, and we

1273
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 5: had a game on Fox TV that saw on upset.

1274
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 5: Remember Wyoming at home got the double overtime win early

1275
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 5: season against Texas Tech. Wyoming at home beats number twenty

1276
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 5: four Fresno State tonight twenty four nineteen. It was twenty

1277
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 5: four to seven at the half. Easy wins for number

1278
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 5: one Georgia and number two Michigan, but number three Texas,

1279
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: despite a late field goal that got them the lead,

1280
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 5: still lost to rival Oklahomas. The Sooners get a touchdown

1281
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: with fifteen seconds to go to beat Texas in Dallas

1282
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: thirty four to twenty. There are only two games still

1283
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 5: going in college football. Starting the fourth quarter, Fifteenth ranked

1284
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 5: Oregon State is up thirty five thirty two at CAL.

1285
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: Five touchdown passes for the Beavers, led by dj Uyonglila,

1286
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 5: who has four of those five. They've just started the

1287
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Speaker 5: third quarter at the La Coliseum, Arizona led USC seventeen

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Speaker 5: to nothing. It's now seventeen fourteen against the ninth ninth

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Speaker 5: ranked Trojans, even though Heisman winning quarterback Caleb Williams was

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Speaker 5: just four of ten passing in the first half. He

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01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 5: had one TD pass one TD run. The Colts gave

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Speaker 5: running back Jonathan Taylor a three year extension, and Simone

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Speaker 5: Biles won silver in the vault at the World Championships.

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Speaker 5: After taking the all round title yesterday, she qualified for

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Speaker 5: all four event finals this weekend in Belgium. She finished

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Speaker 5: fifth in the uneven bars. Simone Biles is the most

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Speaker 5: decorated gymnast in history, up to thirty five total medals

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Speaker 5: now between the Olympics and Worlds. That includes twenty one gold.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Tors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from thee Tirek dot Com Studios. Okay, Jason, So

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01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: before the before we got to the Sager, I was

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: basically making the argument to fire Ron Rivera, which sounds terrible.

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01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: I just so uh so so like when I look.

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: At this, this whole situation, like I guess what I'm

1306
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: trying to say is listen, you know we we I'll

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: get it right. Nobody's calling for another man's job, all

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01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 2: that stuff. We get it. But at the same time,

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: I think you kind of laid it out very nicely

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01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: about the fact that he was kind of deemed when

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: he got the job.

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 3: Hey, he's an adult in the room.

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna handle things, right, you know, he's gonna again

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: just just be an adult, you know, in a in

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Speaker 2: a place there there.

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Speaker 4: It's a dignity to him. Yeah, And it's like, there's

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: there's just something about Ron Rivera going to that dumpster

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 4: fire that made all the sense in the world, just

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 4: from a logistics standpoint, if nothing else, Like, it was

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: a good decision when they hired him. I said, oh, well,

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 4: that's one of the best decisions at organizations made in

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 4: a long time, because he can restore to them a

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01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 4: sense of something that they have not seen in a

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Speaker 4: long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that that plays into kind of

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Speaker 2: another theory of yours, which I really like, which is

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: that you know, you never hire a defensive head coach,

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: because if you get a offensive coordinator and you have

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: actual success, then that offensive coordinator is gonna get poached.

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: And so I'm not sitting here saying that Eric the

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: enemy is necessarily gonna get poached, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But I guess.

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Speaker 2: These two things are playing concurrently in my mind. By

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: the way, Stephen A. Smith is on the set of

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: the Miami Georgia Tech post game for some reason.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. Anyway, neither here nor there. Neither

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Speaker 3: here nor there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting very distracted here as Arizona. By the way,

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Speaker 2: he's in the red zone against USC. Okay, all right,

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: so my thought process is pretty straightforward. Geez, Ron Rivera

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Speaker 2: did his job. He was the adult in the room,

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01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: in the room during the transition. You get past Dan Snyder,

1344
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: you now have a real ownership group all that. We

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,440
Speaker 2: even saw Magic Johnson tweeting about it on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Night, which by the way, I don't think is necessary.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you have that element of it. But then

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01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: at the same time, you also have a situation where

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Speaker 2: a couple things. We don't think Ron Rivera is the guy,

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: but if you somehow turn it around and have amazing success,

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: then it's going to be because Eric b Enemy's offense

1352
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: is awesome, and then he's gonna get poached and get

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Speaker 2: a head coaching job. And so I guess that you know,

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Speaker 2: you helped me get to the finish line on this

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Speaker 2: argument is if you know that Ron Rivera is not

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Speaker 2: the guy, and if you know that, even if you

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Speaker 2: have success, all that means is the offensive coordinator is

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: gonna get poached and you have to You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to start over with another guy. Why not just give

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01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: the enemy the keys? Now, I guess that's the point

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Speaker 2: I was trying to make.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're I mean, you're you're sort of sacrificing

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Speaker 4: the president to get a jump start on the future.

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Speaker 4: That's sort of what you're looking at. If you think

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: the enemy is the future, then go ahead and get

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Speaker 4: him a little bit warm. Now, it's the same thing

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Speaker 4: as bringing in the freshman quarterback near the end of

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 4: the season that's lost to go ahead and get him

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Speaker 4: a few reps or just a little bit further ahead

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Speaker 4: before he really has the reins the year after. I

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Speaker 4: think the only difference here between that and the analogy

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Speaker 4: I just made and in the situation in Washington, is

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: if you sat down with Eric b Enemy and asked

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 4: him whether or not he thinks Sam Howell is the guy.

1375
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 4: Because to me, that's the crucial point. Do you have

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: the quarterback in the room if you don't. If I'm

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01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: Eric Benemy, I don't know if I want that yet.

1378
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 4: I think I might want to start fresh and have

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 4: the opportunity to get my guy if we're going to

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01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 4: do it that way, especially if Ron Rivera is willing

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01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: to hold on to that gig for a little while longer.

1382
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: Now the enemy could know behind the scenes in this scenario,

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm laying out that he is the coach in waiting,

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 4: that that's the decision that's going to be made at

1385
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: some point, but that that trigger doesn't have to be

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 4: pulled right now when the team that he wants to

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 4: lead is not there yet, that the guys are not

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 4: there yet. So I think there's a little bit more

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: that goes into it. But I don't think that it

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01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 4: is in any way outlandish what you're suggesting. I mean

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Speaker 4: it makes sense. And the further we get in the season,

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 4: if they're not a player, if they're even not gonna

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01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: make a wild card, if we're just seeing way too

1394
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 4: many growing pains here, then I think that voice and

1395
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 4: your point becomes louder and it becomes easier to defend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess if if I guess, it does put

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: the enemy in a bad spot, and then I guess

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: it also kind of puts the organization in a bad

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: spot because then if you don't have success, even if

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: we know Sam Howell's not the guy, then it also

1401
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: makes it tough to bring Eric Bienemy back or give

1402
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: him any sort of long term commitment. But I don't know,

1403
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: it just it just I don't know, like it's just

1404
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: it's just the weird thing of Rivera's not the guy.

1405
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, he's not the guy. The division's tough. I mean,

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01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: do you know, it's like one.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to bury Sam Howe either. Like Sam

1408
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 4: Howe has done some good things and there are moments

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 4: where I really like watching him play. His bad moments

1410
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 4: are really really bad, like there's some massive high. He

1411
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: is manic depressive to watch. When it comes to the

1412
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: way in which he approaches the position at quarterback, he

1413
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: is exciting, but man, at times you're just like, oh gosh,

1414
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 4: I can't believe you actually threw that. And sometimes he

1415
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: gets away with it, and sometimes he plays against the

1416
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, which we actually saw. So I'm not necessarily

1417
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 4: saying without a doubt he couldn't be the guy, but

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 4: there's definitely gonna be some give and take, and I

1419
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 4: don't know in this NFL if that's going to be

1420
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 4: good enough. I think the how can have a nice career.

1421
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to be as a

1422
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 4: QB one on a regular basis. He strikes me as

1423
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: a guy that's going to go from one to two

1424
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 4: to one to two depending on where he's playing at

1425
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 4: that time.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: Tell you what, it's an interesting conversation. Washington ends up

1427
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: losing on Thursday night to the Chicago Bears. By the way,

1428
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 2: keeping the updated on the game at the LA Coliseum,

1429
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: Arizona just kicked the field goal. They are up twenty

1430
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: to fourteen early in the third quarter against the USC Trojans.

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: We will obviously keep you updated on that. Speaking to updates,

1432
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: when we come back, Steve Disagre, as he always does,

1433
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 2: will join us give us his extended update all the

1434
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: stuff we missed in college football, Major League Baseball, and

1435
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: of course looking ahead to tomorrow's NFL slate that's next.

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,919
Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios as we do every Saturday,

1439
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: and to Sunday at around this time. Want to toss

1440
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: it over to the news desk to Saga for his

1441
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: extended update. We don't always have stuff trending at this hour,

1442
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: to Saga, but we certainly do Right now.

1443
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 5: At the La Colseum, we have ninth ranked usc still trailing.

1444
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 5: They were down seventeen nothing to Arizona in the second quarter.

1445
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 5: It's now Wildcats twenty to fourteen over SC with about

1446
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 5: six minutes to go in the third. There are only

1447
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 5: two late games in college football early fourth quarter that's

1448
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 5: on Pack twelve network, so only people in Vermont can

1449
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 5: see that fifteenth ranked Oregon State is now leading forty

1450
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 5: nine thirty two at CAL. We had upsets notable in

1451
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 5: the top twenty five on Fox TV. Wyoming beat number

1452
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 5: twenty four Fresno State. We talked about the somehow that

1453
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 5: happened game at number seventeen Miami Georgia Tech scoring with

1454
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 5: two seconds left to beat the Hurricanes twenty three to twenty.

1455
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 5: UCLA beat thirteenth ranked Washington State twenty five seventeen. By

1456
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 5: the way, attendance in Pasadena just thirty five thousand today

1457
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 5: at Dodger Stadium, about fifty two thousand fans tonight plus

1458
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: at usc tonight. Of course, probably more than fifty two

1459
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: thousand fans Louisville at home beat number ten Notre Dame

1460
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 5: thirty three to twenty. As for the NFL that you

1461
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 5: referenced and previewed before the break, the big signing today,

1462
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 5: believe it or not, running back Jonathan Taylor as a

1463
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: three year extension to stay with the Colts. It's worth

1464
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 5: over twenty six million dollars guaranteed. He is in the

1465
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 5: last year of his rookie contract. He had asked for

1466
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 5: a trade. Now he'll be making his season day debut tomorrow.

1467
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 5: He is active as Indy will host Tennessee Sunday, and

1468
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 5: Colt center Ryan Kelly cleared concussion protocol yesterday. Titans wide

1469
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 5: receiver trail On Burks is out again with a knee injury.

1470
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 5: Will Davante Adams play against the Packers on Monday night.

1471
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 5: He returned to limited practice today after the shoulder injury

1472
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 5: lats a weekend, so that's some good news, But he

1473
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 5: is listed by the Raiders, their star wide receiver, as

1474
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 5: questionable for Monday. Green Bay running back Aaron Jones, with

1475
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 5: a bad ham string, is questionable. Vegas quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo

1476
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 5: cleared concussion protocol yesterday. Las Vegas one and three hosts

1477
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 5: the Packers. Yes, it's a home game, but more than

1478
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 5: fifty percent of the pants in Vegas will be Packer fans.

1479
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: No doubt.

1480
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 5: Lions running back Jamiir Gibbs was downgraded to doubtful with

1481
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 5: a bad hamstring, and Detroit wide receiver Aman Ross Saint

1482
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 5: Brown is also doubtful with an abdominal injury. Receiver Jamison

1483
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 5: Williams is officially active. Sunday, the Lions three to one

1484
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 5: hosts the zh to four Carolina Panthers. Bills are playing

1485
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 5: in the morning. Linebacker Von Miller was activated for tomorrow's

1486
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 5: game in London. This will be his season debut against

1487
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 5: Jacksonville after a torn acl last year. And Rams wide

1488
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 5: receiver Cooper Cup was officially activated to make his season

1489
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 5: debut on Sunday after his hamstring injury. The Rams will

1490
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 5: host the four to o Eagles. Well in Major League Baseball, tonight,

1491
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 5: we had the top seed in the American League lose

1492
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 5: at home to open a best of five. We had

1493
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 5: the top seed in the National League lose at home

1494
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: to open a best of five. And the two seed

1495
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 5: Dodgers get killed at home and the Houston Astros won

1496
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 5: again six ' four over Minnesota. That Baltimore loss at home.

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Speaker 5: This is a team that won one hundred and one

1498
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: games this season. They're down one game to none after

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 5: losing three to two to Texas and the Orioles had

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 5: the leadoff man on base in the seventh, in the

1501
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 5: eighth and in the ninth innings and didn't score. Double

1502
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 5: play took care of him in the eighth, a caught

1503
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 5: stealing from a quote miscommunication in the ninth O's lose.

1504
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 5: The Dodgers were down eleven nothing in the eighth lost

1505
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 5: eleven two to Arizona. One of the worst postseason starts

1506
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 5: ever from Clayton kershaw tonight not just one of his worst,

1507
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 5: He went to well one third of it in. He

1508
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 5: got one out, allowed six runs in the first. This

1509
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 5: is a guy who led the Dodger rotation and wins

1510
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 5: this year in era, led them in starts this year.

1511
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 5: At the age of thirty five, he takes the loss

1512
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 5: and the Arizona winning pitcher Merrill Kelly had literally never

1513
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,959
Speaker 5: beaten the Dodger before Dodgers and he's faced the Dodgers

1514
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 5: many times in the Division. Sixteen starts against the Dodgers,

1515
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 5: he had never beaten them until tonight. The record was

1516
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 5: zero to eleven against LA with an ERA of five

1517
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 5: and a half. That was the most career losses without

1518
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 5: a win against any single opponent. Right before you get

1519
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 5: a playoff start against that same opponent, and he beat

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 5: him eleven to two. Clayton Kershaw afterwards said, disappointing, embarrassing,

1521
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 5: no excuses, needless to say, it's by far his shortest

1522
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 5: postseason start. He had had starts of three and four

1523
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,879
Speaker 5: innings five years ago. We talked on the show before

1524
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 5: it's notable when an eventual Hall of Famer has postseason

1525
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 5: doldrums like this. He's had as many good as bad,

1526
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 5: but the bad standout. We mentioned Justin Verlander, who's a

1527
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 5: first ballot Hall of Famer, a guy who got the

1528
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 5: win and was sharp in Houston today. His World Series

1529
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 5: career ERA is five point six y three. Verlander was

1530
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 5: zero to six in his World Series career until last year.

1531
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 5: There's no explaining it. And the top seed Braves, who

1532
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 5: won one hundred four games this year, got shut out

1533
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 5: at home today. That great offense Philadelphia three to nothing

1534
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 5: the final and the loss to Spencer Strider, who did

1535
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 5: throw seven great innings, one earned run aloud, eight strikeouts,

1536
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 5: the guy who went twenty and five during the season,

1537
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 5: easily the only twenty game winner in baseball. He had

1538
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 5: twenty two swings and misses, one of the most since

1539
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 5: they've had this pitch tracking the last fifteen years in

1540
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 5: a postseason game, especially when you don't even throw a

1541
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: hundred pitches and still Philadelphia gets the w Rangers pitcher

1542
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 5: Max Scherzer. By the way, strange shoulder is not on

1543
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 5: the roster for this round for Texas, although he did

1544
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 5: throw to hitters on Friday. Can we mention the Miami

1545
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 5: Hurricanes again, because this will get talked about, not just

1546
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 5: in Miami. Georgia Tech was out of timeouts. The Hurricanes,

1547
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 5: instead of taking a knee with under thirty seconds to go,

1548
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 5: ran a play into the line, fumbled. Georgia Tech, which

1549
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 5: had done very little on offense, took over and in

1550
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 5: four plays seventy four yards, went right down the field

1551
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 5: and beat the Hurricanes twenty three to twenty. Miami had

1552
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 5: five turnovers in its home loss. Quarterback Sam Hartman had

1553
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 5: five turnovers by himself in Notre Dame's loss at Louisville,

1554
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 5: UCLA beating Washington State, Cougar's had four turnovers and Fresno

1555
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 5: State's loss they had one. Fourteen straight. Georgia has won

1556
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 5: twenty three.

1557
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: In a row.

1558
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 5: That is the longest street going.

1559
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to say it. By the way,

1560
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: we have an update at the coliseum. USC has taken

1561
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 2: a twenty one to twenty lead. Back to back third

1562
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: down penalties from the Arizona Wildcats put USC in position

1563
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: to score. They do, so we'll keep you updated on

1564
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: the very very late game in college football, USC up

1565
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty. As I just said on Arizona

1566
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: coming up.

1567
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Speaker 3: We go back to.

1568
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: College football though, and boy oh boy, is there a

1569
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: lot to recap the Red River shootout, A and M Alabama.

1570
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about the Colorado Buffaloes and who's

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Speaker 2: number one?

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Speaker 3: That's next? Fox Sports Radio Welcome in, everybody.

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1578
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Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. Jason Martin. I think

1579
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: the upset is starting to slip through Arizona's fingertips like

1580
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: sand through an hourglass. USC has the twenty one to

1581
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: twenty lead for people who have not been in front

1582
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: of a TV. Arizona was up seventeen to nothing US.

1583
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: He has obviously scored twenty one of the last twenty

1584
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: four points total. And I bring it up because Arizona

1585
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: just went three and out. USC has the ball back.

1586
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: We will keep you updated on that.

1587
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 4: The interception changed the game. I mean they were dominating

1588
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 4: the game. Took a risk through a pass that gets

1589
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 4: picked off on the left sideline. USC goes down, scores

1590
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 4: a touchdown a few minutes before half. It's been a

1591
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 4: totally different game since then. You don't make that mistake,

1592
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 4: and maybe you can look at it and say, don't

1593
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 4: be aggressive when you're up seventeen nothing on the road

1594
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 4: in that scenario. But it's hard to say. It's easy

1595
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 4: to say now because we've seen what's happened since. But

1596
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 4: they were dominating this game, and since that point it's

1597
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 4: been all USC.

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: It has been again the last drive Arizona did not

1599
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: help themselves either. As I said a moment ago, Arizona

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01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: twice with penalties. One was a little bit of a

1601
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: questionable pass interference, the second one was a no brainer,

1602
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, roughing the passer right in front of the

1603
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: right in front of the the refs. So essentially it

1604
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: was you know, it allowed USC to get into the

1605
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: end zone to take the lead. But USC up twenty

1606
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 2: one to twenty with three minutes left in the third quarter.

1607
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: We will keep you updated on this one. USC seemingly

1608
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: having control, but again, you know, it is still just

1609
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 2: a one point game.

1610
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 3: Let's switch gears, Jason.

1611
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: And when I say switch gears, I mean let's stick

1612
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: with college football, because it was just an awesome day

1613
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: at college football.

1614
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: And you know, listen, we.

1615
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: Only get thirteen, fourteen of these Saturdays every week every year,

1616
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: and this was one that on paper, you know, there

1617
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: wasn't those outside of the Red River, there wasn't those

1618
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: like super super marquee games. Kentucky Georgia was a top

1619
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 2: twenty matchup, but historically George's kind of had their way

1620
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:09,440
Speaker 2: with Kentucky.

1621
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Alabama.

1622
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: A and M was for first place in the SEC West,

1623
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 2: but A and m wasn't even ranked, and we had

1624
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about them. So let's start really quickly,

1625
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: just quickly, Red River shootout we talked about a little

1626
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: bit earlier in the show. There are two ways to

1627
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 2: look at one. I don't think Steve Sarkisian had his

1628
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: best day. Again, for people who did not have a

1629
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: chance to watch the game, there was a moment where

1630
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: they were down twenty seven to twenty, had first and

1631
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 2: goal on the one yard line, got zero points out

1632
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: of that drive. They end up losing by three, so

1633
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: even a field goal there could have potentially changed the game.

1634
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 3: There was a.

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01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: Moment late in the game where they kind of really

1636
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: settled for a field goal when they maybe could have

1637
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 2: been more aggressive. Oklahoma gets the ball back and drives

1638
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: the length of the field to have the game winning score.

1639
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: But I also bring this all up, Jason and to

1640
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: say that, you know, while I don't think sark had

1641
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 2: his finest day, we got to give Oklahoma their flowers too,

1642
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: And maybe when we discussed this earlier in the show,

1643
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: I didn't do a good enough job of giving Oklahoma

1644
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: the credit that they deserve because this was a team

1645
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: that went six and seven last year, but they lost

1646
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: a ton of games by really close games, and what

1647
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 2: ended up happening was really the only games they got

1648
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: blown out. Dylan Gabriel was not in the lineup, and

1649
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: so this is a team that got a little bit

1650
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: better or they're a lot better on defense, but they

1651
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: really weren't that far away from being respectable last year.

1652
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you look at them, they're

1653
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: six and zero, they have their signature when they hadn't

1654
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: played that big game, and you look at the rest

1655
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: of the schedule, they will be favorite every game the

1656
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: rest of the year. I think it feels safe to

1657
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: at least put them in that Big twelve championship game,

1658
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: and if they're there, they're probably going to be competing

1659
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: for a college football playoff.

1660
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 4: Per So, we talked about Sarkisian, and we've talked about Texas,

1661
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: and now we've talked about Oklahoma. I think we probably

1662
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 4: need to talk about Brent Vennables because he's the guy

1663
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 4: that doesn't have the big name, or not the Sarkesian

1664
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 4: level name. He wasn't talked about as much. He was

1665
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 4: kind of seen as an afterthought, and it's like, well,

1666
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 4: maybe josh Iipel leave Tennessee and come to Oklahoma next

1667
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 4: year or something like that, or this is going to

1668
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 4: be a short lived tenure for him. It's all going south.

1669
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 4: Whether undefeated, and they just beat Texas when Texas was

1670
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 4: ranked third in the country, and I don't think that

1671
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 4: that ranking was undeserved by any means. This is a

1672
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 4: football team that could not really be doing more than

1673
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 4: what they're doing right now. And as you mentioned, it

1674
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: is revisionist history, but not really. It's just we didn't

1675
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 4: think about it at the time. Dylan Gabriel is really good.

1676
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,879
Speaker 4: Him really hurt them last year. You take good football

1677
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 4: players away from football teams, things change. We're seeing the

1678
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,799
Speaker 4: value of a Bryce Young, we are seeing the value

1679
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 4: I know they keep winning, but we're seeing the value

1680
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 4: of c. J. Stroud right now as well. At Ohio State,

1681
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 4: we are definitely, I think, seeing the value of a

1682
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 4: Hendon Hooker at Tennessee. All of these things are true.

1683
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel is still there now, he's healthy, and we're

1684
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 4: seeing what that actually looks like for Oklahoma. But there's

1685
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 4: a reason why they hire Brent Vinnables in the first place.

1686
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 4: And there's a reason why Brent Vinnables was talked about

1687
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 4: annually as a guy that could be in line for

1688
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 4: a major coaching opportunity for the last several years that

1689
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: he was at Clemson under Dabos Swinney running that great defense.

1690
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 4: So I do think that maybe we need to enter

1691
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 4: his name into this and just say, maybe let's not

1692
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: rush to judgment too fast on what he did last year,

1693
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 4: because so far, so good in twenty twenty three.

1694
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he does deserve a lot of credit.

1695
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: And I was one of those guys, listen, listen, sometimes

1696
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: we got to take l's in this profession. And I

1697
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: was one of those guys that said, you know, the

1698
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: defense as we watch Lincoln Riley at USC right now.

1699
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: When he was at Oklahoma, the defense wasn't good, but

1700
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: it was his best defense. Lincoln Riley was in his

1701
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: final year last year in year one under Brent Venables,

1702
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 2: a defensive guy. That was the worst defense that they've

1703
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: had basically this entire year. They were the worst defense

1704
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. And I sat there and said,

1705
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: you're a defensive guy. That side of the ball is

1706
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: not working. That's on you, and listen. It was never

1707
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: gonna be realistic no matter how bad it got. To

1708
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: fire him after last year or even this year. I

1709
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: think they could have been really really bad this year,

1710
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: and if it wasn't like two and ten bad, like

1711
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: he wasn't getting fired. But I think it like there

1712
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: were people, including me, so I'm not gonna try to

1713
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: duck it that at this time last year, were like

1714
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: he's not the guy, like like, you know, he's not

1715
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 2: the guy. Well, I give him credit because whatever they

1716
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: did in the portal, whatever they did to clean up

1717
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 2: that defense, they're significantly improved. And the thing was too,

1718
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 2: they only had to improve just enough to where if

1719
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 2: the offense stayed where they were, they were gonna be

1720
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: really good. And so now again you look at the

1721
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: rest of Oklahoma schedule and you sit there and say,

1722
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: it's hard to find more multiple losses on this schedule.

1723
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, they have next week, they have a bye,

1724
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,480
Speaker 2: and then they play Central Florida at Kansas Oklahoma State BYU.

1725
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: They don't have a ranked team left on their schedule,

1726
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: and so I think it's fair to assume they're going

1727
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: to be twelve to zero. You know, at the very least,

1728
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: even if they lose one, they'll be going to the

1729
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Championship. Game with a chance to play their

1730
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: way into the College Football Playoff. By the way, USC

1731
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: it looks like may have scored again wide receiver may

1732
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,919
Speaker 2: have been down at the one. We'll keep you updated

1733
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: on that one. You know, Jason really quick. One game

1734
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: we did not talk about in our one. By the way,

1735
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 2: we did talk a bunch of Bama, A and M.

1736
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: If you want to hear about that, you could go

1737
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: back and download the podcast.

1738
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Want to give credit?

1739
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 2: Not often we talk about a team that improved to

1740
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: four and two and is unranked. But the Colorado Buffaloes

1741
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: came into the season with an over underwin total Jason

1742
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: of three and a half. And we could sit here

1743
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: and say, oh, the deon hype is too much. The

1744
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: deon hype is this? The deon hype is that. The

1745
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: fact remains. We can argue, does this program get talked

1746
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: about a lot? Yes, they get talked about a lot

1747
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 2: because people care. But to say that they are anything

1748
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 2: other than overachieving right now, as they go to four

1749
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: and two, they win a late field goal allows them

1750
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: to beat Arizona State twenty seven to twenty. The Colorado

1751
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: Buffaloes are four and two. They play next Friday night,

1752
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: they're going to go into their by very likely five

1753
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: and two as they play a Stanford team that is

1754
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: not very good. We haven't really talked about them, Jason,

1755
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: but we got to give Colorado credit where it's due.

1756
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: They have exceeded all logical expectations.

1757
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, yeah, the hype got a little

1758
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 4: out of control, but it got out of control because

1759
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 4: things that draw ratings, draw numbers, draw interest, draw television interest,

1760
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 4: all those things they get talked about a lot. And

1761
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 4: that win over TOCU was exactly what college football needed early.

1762
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: And then you got that great environment for the rivalry

1763
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 4: game between Colorado and Colorado State. You had the back

1764
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: talking with Matt Ruhle and Nebraska that week. The Colorado

1765
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 4: story became interesting, and I could look at it and say, well,

1766
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, Arizona State's a one win football team and

1767
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 4: they barely beat them, right, But they were a team

1768
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 4: that won one game all of last year. So you

1769
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 4: look at where they started and where they are. It

1770
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 4: is a process. Diona has made that point repeatedly that effectively,

1771
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 4: what he's saying is you better get it now because

1772
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 4: it's not going to be any easier for you in

1773
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 4: the future. Not meaning for Colorado, meaning for their opponents,

1774
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 4: so them being foreign too. I don't care who they've beaten.

1775
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 4: I don't care how badly they lost to USC. There

1776
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 4: is no way to categorize this in any other fashion

1777
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 4: other than this has been a success. This should continue

1778
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 4: to be a success US and I really want to

1779
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: see what this program looks like in two years. If

1780
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 4: Deon Sanders is still there, well, I think.

1781
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 3: He'll be there. I don't you know, it's always you.

1782
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 4: Know, I mean so so do I. I guess I'm

1783
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 4: just saying if just because there is you never.

1784
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Know fair enough, fair enough really quickly. We did this

1785
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 2: last week, Jason, I'll give my answer in a second.

1786
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: But in a year where you know we've said there's

1787
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: no great teams, well, Georgia destroyed Kentucky, Michigan dominated again Alabama.

1788
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they're the best team, but they're all

1789
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: of a sudden five and one and incomplete control there

1790
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: destiny in the SEC West, Florida State wins again, Texas loses,

1791
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: but Oklahoma all of a sudden, looks very good. We

1792
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: did this last week around this time, who do you

1793
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: believe the best team in the country is, right, now

1794
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: it's Georgia.

1795
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 4: I would have made an argument that was a very

1796
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,799
Speaker 4: quick answer, I think, so I'll explain in a second,

1797
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 4: But I think that, and I said and a text

1798
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 4: message to you guys earlier in the day, I said,

1799
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,759
Speaker 4: if Georgia doesn't look impressive, I may argue for Oklahoma

1800
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 4: to be number one. And the reason why he is.

1801
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: If all of the things are equal and everybody is undefeated,

1802
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: then what's the most impressive win that I have seen? Well,

1803
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 4: it's Oklahoma beating a Texas team that already beat an

1804
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 4: Alabama team on the road. The fact that Texas was

1805
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 4: number three entering that game in Oklahoma got the job

1806
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 4: done to me, places them at the top of that list.

1807
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 4: If Georgia had just kind of, you know, barely gotten

1808
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 4: through Kentucky or struggled or not looked impressive, and the

1809
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 4: same thing would have had to be true about Michigan.

1810
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 4: But the reason why I think Georgia clearly above Michigan,

1811
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 4: if those are the two that we are looking at,

1812
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 4: is because Michigan has played absolutely nobody. Now, I said

1813
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 4: last week there would be people that would try to

1814
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 4: talk themselves into the undefeated Kentucky team, and I said,

1815
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 4: Kentucky is the new old miss Ole Miss in the West. Undefeated.

1816
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 4: They'd play Alabama every year, get beaten, and they'd lose

1817
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 4: three out of their next five games, and they would

1818
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 4: limp to like a four loss finish. I could see

1819
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 4: Kentucky doing the same thing. I like Devin Leary, I

1820
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 4: like that team, I love that coach. But do I

1821
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: think that's their last loss of the year. Absolutely, not

1822
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: that that was an undefeated team, but wasn't really. At

1823
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 4: the same time, Georgia had not put together four quarters

1824
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 4: that impressed me to this point in the season, and

1825
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 4: they made a statement. They scored fifty one. Michigan scored

1826
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 4: fifty two against Minnesota. I don't look at it quite

1827
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 4: the same way. You could still maybe make the argument

1828
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: for Oklahoma because I still think it's the best win

1829
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 4: anybody's had. But because of how long we've seen Georgia

1830
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 4: do this, and really, if you look at how Carson

1831
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 4: Beck played today, man, that was some outstanding stuff. That's

1832
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 4: about as good as Georgia. I've seen Georgia looking in

1833
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 4: a long time. So to me, it was easy because

1834
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 4: they impressed. They stay number one. I think Michigan didn't

1835
01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 4: do anything to lose number two. But Oklahoma is the

1836
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 4: one that I think just flat out should replace Texas.

1837
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 4: I think they should just be three immediately. I don't

1838
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: know that they will be because other teams are higher

1839
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,719
Speaker 4: than they are, but because they beat the number three

1840
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 4: team and they hold an undefeated record, that's my argument.

1841
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, who is number one is

1842
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: probably a different conversation than who's the best, like like,

1843
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: and you know, I think you can kind of look

1844
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: at it all in a multiple ways. I mean, and

1845
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 2: we talked about this a little bit last week. Is

1846
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: it you know, some people believe that if you start

1847
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: number one, you don't lose. If nobody knocks you off

1848
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 2: the top, then you shouldn't lose that spot. Other people

1849
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: believe it's it's how do you look eye tests? Some

1850
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: people believe it's resume. In that case, it might be Oklahoma.

1851
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 2: As you said, I'll just say, like, Michigan to me

1852
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 2: just looks unbelievable. And I know the competition hasn't been good.

1853
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,520
Speaker 2: I get all that, but they have played five opponents

1854
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: and destroyed all of them. And I think the thing

1855
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: about them is that, like the last two weeks, the

1856
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 2: defenses that they have played are good now? You know,

1857
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 2: again it's the Big Ten. And you know, is Minnesota's

1858
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: defense good because they play a super slow tempo or whatever,

1859
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: like I don't know, you know, But all I'm trying

1860
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 2: to say is that that was a team that came

1861
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: into this game giving up twenty one points per game.

1862
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: Michigan scores fifty two. Last week they played a Nebraska

1863
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 2: team that was giving up eighteen points per game. They

1864
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: scored forty five, I believe. So I just look at

1865
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: them and what sucks about it? And there's nothing you

1866
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 2: could do. You know, they were supposed to play UCLA

1867
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 2: out of conference, there was some kind of scheduling quirk

1868
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 2: that didn't allow them to whatever. But I just bring

1869
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 2: it up to say it just sucks because they really

1870
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 2: aren't going to play anyone of substance until November, excuse me.

1871
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 3: So we still have a ways to go.

1872
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 2: They play Indiana at home next week, then at Michigan State,

1873
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 2: then by then Perdue, So we're talking about five more

1874
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: weeks before they play at Penn State in a big

1875
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: noon game. And we actually learned something about them. So

1876
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and like jump on

1877
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 2: the table and say that anybody who thinks that Michigan

1878
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: isn't the best team doesn't know. Like, No, I think

1879
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: you can absolutely make the case for Georgia. I think

1880
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,839
Speaker 2: you can make a case for Oklahoma, as you said, Jason,

1881
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: think you could make a case for Michigan. Think you

1882
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 2: could even maybe make a case for Florida State, Oregon,

1883
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: Washington teams like that. It is a really funny year, though,

1884
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 2: and it is a shame that the twelve team playoff

1885
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: doesn't come into effect until next year, because I really

1886
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there's a huge gap between one

1887
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: and six. One in seven teams like you know, Ohio State,

1888
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: Michigan's excuse me, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Washington teams

1889
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: like that.

1890
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I definitely agree with your

1891
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 4: point there. I know we'll get to break but I

1892
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 4: just I don't think Michigan season starts until November eleventh sucks.

1893
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 4: I know what they've done, but that's kind of where

1894
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 4: I feel That's where I feel like that's when we

1895
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 4: could potentially make the argument. I just can't get them

1896
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 4: there based on who they've.

1897
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting, and again, I know we gotta

1898
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: get to it. By the way USC has scored again,

1899
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: it looks like they are have crossed the goal line

1900
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: extra point pending, they will be up twenty eight to

1901
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: twenty with the extra point. Yeah, all I was gonna

1902
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 2: say was this week, Jason. Though the Big Twelve, the

1903
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Big Ten schedules excuse me for twenty twenty four did

1904
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:27,520
Speaker 2: come out and it is pretty surreal seeing a Washington,

1905
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Oregon playing against.

1906
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 3: Michigan, Ohio State, whatever.

1907
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 2: But we're not gonna have to worry about this ever

1908
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: again in the Big Ten because the league gets much

1909
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 2: tough for next year twelve team playoff, et cetera. But yeah,

1910
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, like I said, I'm not gonna sit

1911
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 2: here and like jump on the table and yell and

1912
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: scream about Michigan because to your point, they haven't really

1913
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 2: played anybody. They have not really played anybody. Fox Sports

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01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,759
Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. USC has punched it in, up twenty

1920
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 2: seven to twenty, extra point pending extra point good, USC

1921
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: up twenty eight twenty with twelve fifty four to go.

1922
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: When we come back, we look at the week five

1923
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: NFL slate Buffalo, Jacksonville, Dallas, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, all

1924
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 2: that and more. Fox Sports Radio.

1925
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

1926
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aertorus Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1927
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: Tireraq dot Com studios. And the Arizona Wildcats will not

1928
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: go quietly into the night. They were up seventeen nothing

1929
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 2: on the USC Trojans. USC came all the way back

1930
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: to take a twenty eight to twenty lead. Arizona now

1931
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: driving on the one yard line trying to punch it

1932
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 2: in to cut the lead to twenty eight to twenty six.

1933
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: They would obviously go for two at that point. We're

1934
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 2: gonna keep you updated because this game is very interesting

1935
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 2: and it very well could come down to the wire.

1936
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Arizona again in the red zone. I'll tell you what

1937
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: this is what I want to do while we'll wait

1938
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 2: to see what happens in this game. I do want

1939
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: to see, by the way, really quickly Arizona on the

1940
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: goal line does get stuffed on third and goal eight

1941
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: minutes left. Jason, do you have to I mean you

1942
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 2: kind of got to go for it, right, Yes, doing

1943
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 2: a field goal does on the road. Yes, yeah, kicking

1944
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: a field goal really does no good. It's an eight

1945
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: point game. So all right, we'll keep you updated on

1946
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 2: this one as Arizona fourth down in the red zone

1947
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: trying to tie it up. But at the same time,

1948
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: as exciting as this game is, and it is very exciting,

1949
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 2: I really don't want to start the NFL preview yet

1950
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: because it's like we're waiting on one play here.

1951
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 4: And oh and there's going to be a timeout. So

1952
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 4: now we go.

1953
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll tell you what, Loraina, give us

1954
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: a little music, put us in the mood. Let's get

1955
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 2: to some of the bigger games in week five, Producer, Pat,

1956
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: where do we want to start?

1957
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 10: All right, Aaron and Jason, we're gonna go with our

1958
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 10: little core four games, a little hot ones we got

1959
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 10: for tomorrow and Monday's games. So let's start us off

1960
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 10: in jolly old London for the early game tomorrow. We

1961
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 10: got Jaguars and Bills. Bills are technically the home team

1962
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 10: in London and Aaron the Bills are five point favorites.

1963
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 6: Who you taking on this one, sir?

1964
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: So you know, listen, I was obviously wrong Buffalo. I

1965
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 2: thought it'd be a regression here. They might be the

1966
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 2: best team in the NFL. I do think this might

1967
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: be crazy, but Jacksonville being there for a full week,

1968
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 2: you could look at his one of two ways road,

1969
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 2: you know, on the road for too long, they're probably tired.

1970
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 2: I just think they're probably more comfortable there. They've been there.

1971
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 4: You know.

1972
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: They obviously got took care of the Falcons last week.

1973
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 2: Buffalo got into town. I believe on Monday. It sounded

1974
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 2: like they did touristy stuff for a day or two

1975
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: before focusing on the game. They have been there for

1976
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: about a week. I'm gonna take Jacksonville with the upset,

1977
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: just because I think having been there for a week,

1978
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 2: all the tours, the stuff, they're kind of over it

1979
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 2: and they're ready to focus on football.

1980
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 4: You could be right. It is interesting that there's a

1981
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 4: team that's playing back to back weeks in London. I

1982
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 4: don't know that that's ever happened before, and they're coming

1983
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 4: off a win there last week. So you're right, there

1984
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 4: is a familiarity, no question about it. But do you

1985
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 4: know what the Bills have done since they lost in

1986
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 4: Week one?

1987
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: They've scored a lot of points.

1988
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 4: Out of that, they've beaten everybody by twenty eight or more. Wow,

1989
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 4: they have dominated everybody. Not just that they've scored a

1990
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 4: bunch of points, but they have not allowed very much

1991
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 4: to the opposition. I just think that those two things,

1992
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 4: those are those are some massive extremes to have. I

1993
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 4: like your point, and I think Jacksonville is capable of

1994
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 4: the upset. I'm gonna take Buffalo though. I just right

1995
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 4: now they are just firing on all cylinders and I

1996
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 4: see no indicator that that's gonna stop really quickly.

1997
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 2: Arizona did go for it on fourth down. They convert

1998
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty six. USC leeds two point conversion pending.

1999
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:04,799
Speaker 2: Pat get us to the next game. I'll get everybody

2000
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: updated once that Coast final.

2001
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 10: All right, We're gonna go to the second game, and

2002
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,440
Speaker 10: it is a division rivalry game. We got the Baltimore

2003
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 10: Ravens heading to Pittsburgh to play the Steelers. Now, Jason,

2004
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with you first. Here the Ravens are

2005
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 10: four and a half point favorites. Who you taking on

2006
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 10: this one?

2007
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 4: Oh Man, tell me one more time in the game,

2008
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 4: I was watching the I was watching the two point conversion.

2009
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 2: Arizona has converted the two points twenty eight, twenty eight

2010
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 2: in the LA Coliseum Pack.

2011
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 10: And Jason, it was the Baltimore Ravens versus the Pittsburgh Steelers,

2012
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 10: and the Ravens are four and a half point favorites

2013
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 10: in Pittsburgh.

2014
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 4: All right, So I don't know what's going on with

2015
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I know it's not good. Nothing

2016
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 4: about that looks right. I don't know what's going on

2017
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 4: with Matt Canada and that offense. Pickets banged up. I

2018
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 4: think he's I think he's gonna play, but even if

2019
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 4: he does play, there's a it just has not looked right,

2020
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: and I don't think it looks right right now. I'd

2021
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 4: like Baltimore in this game because there's nothing. There's nothing

2022
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 4: about Pittsburgh that makes me feel good about picking them

2023
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 4: in any way.

2024
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 3: I pretty much feel the same way.

2025
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 2: You know, one pickt is banged up, he is expected

2026
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 2: to play, but two I just I just don't think

2027
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

2028
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 4: Are that good. They're not, yep.

2029
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 2: And so when I look at this game, I do

2030
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 2: like Baltimore to win, and win pretty convincingly. Coming off

2031
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: that nice win against the Browns, I expect them to

2032
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 2: take care of business. I tell you what, Pat, We'll

2033
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 2: get back to you in a minute, but before we do,

2034
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 2: final time this evening, Steve de Seger, what is trending,

2035
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 2: my friend, Well.

2036
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 5: It's one game left on the college football schedule tonight,

2037
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 5: and ninth ranked USC is now tied at home against

2038
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 5: Arizona because the Wildcats, with just over eight minutes to go,

2039
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 5: have scored a touchdown and converted the two point pass.

2040
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 5: It's twenty eight to twenty eight at the Coliseum in

2041
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. Arizona had led seventeen to nothing in

2042
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 5: the second quarter. The other late game is fun final.

2043
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 5: Fifteenth ranked Oregon State wins fifty two to forty at Cal.

2044
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 5: Six touchdown passes for the Beavers, five from dj Oui

2045
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 5: angli La dominance from number one Georgia and number two Michigan.

2046
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 5: In fact, Michigan's offense outscored Minnesota, and Michigan's defense also

2047
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,839
Speaker 5: outscored Minnesota fifty two ten the final as the Michigan

2048
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 5: Wolverine's got a pick six on the second play of

2049
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 5: the game got one late in the third quarter as well.

2050
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 5: Gophers had eleven drives, ten first rounds, only fifty two

2051
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 5: yards passing in this home loss. Michigan coming up on

2052
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 5: the schedule not much Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue the

2053
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 5: X three games. Number one Georgia a fifty one to

2054
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 5: thirteen winner over twenty ath thrank Kentucky Carson Beck four

2055
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 5: touchdown passes, one interception. He had three hundred and eighty

2056
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 5: nine yards passing in three quarters of work. Georgia A

2057
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 5: thirty two first downs to twelve advantage yards. About six

2058
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 5: hundred for Georgia tonight, about one eighty for Kentucky. Oklahoma

2059
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 5: won on a touchdown with fifteen seconds left, thirty four

2060
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 5: to thirty over number three Texas in Dallas. Texas had

2061
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 5: just kicked a field goal for the lead, but then

2062
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 5: five plays seventy five yards in a minute two for

2063
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 5: the Sooners for the game winning touchdown. Quarterback Quinn Ewers

2064
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,919
Speaker 5: three turnovers in the loss. He was sacked five times.

2065
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 5: So Oklahoma is six and oh halfway through the season

2066
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 5: and their last six games are against UCF Kansas, Oklahoma State,

2067
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 5: West Virginia BYU and TCU. Number four Ohio State was

2068
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 5: trailing at home to Maryland ten nothing in the second

2069
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 5: quarter until scoring on a pick six. They eventually beat

2070
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 5: the Terps. It was tied seventeen all late third quarter

2071
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 5: Ohio State thirty seven to seventeen. The final Buck Guys

2072
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,719
Speaker 5: get Penn State in two weeks. Turps quarterback to Leet

2073
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 5: tongo Ilo at two total touchdowns two interceptions. Number five

2074
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 5: Florida State led Virginia Tech just twenty two to seventeen

2075
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 5: right after halftime thirty nine seventeen. The final for the Seminoles.

2076
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 5: Trey Benson on eleven carries had two hundred yards rushing

2077
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 5: two long second touchdowns. I mentioned number nine USC in

2078
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 5: action right now tied in the fourth quarter with Arizona.

2079
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 5: Number ten Notre Dame lost at Louisville thirty three to twenty.

2080
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 5: There was a great item on sports Center tonight, the

2081
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 5: graphic that said that Louisville in back to back years

2082
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 5: has beaten a top ten team. They beat Sam Hartin

2083
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 5: and had Notre Dame tonight. Last year they beat Sam

2084
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 5: Hartman and wake Forest Hartman had five turnovers for the

2085
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 5: Irish tonight, sixteen straight points in the fourth quarter for

2086
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 5: Louisville at home. Their lead went from seventeen to thirteen

2087
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 5: to thirty three to thirteen. Number eleven Alabama a twenty

2088
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 5: six to twenty winner at Texas A and M. That

2089
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 5: game was tied late in the third quarter. Bama's defense

2090
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 5: with five sacks. UCLA twenty five seventeen winners against thirteenth

2091
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 5: ranked Washington State thanks to back to back touchdown runs

2092
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,600
Speaker 5: early in the fourth quarter. By the way, Oregon and

2093
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 5: Washington each off today next Saturday, number eight Oregon at

2094
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 5: number seven Washington. There's also a USC at Notre Dame

2095
01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 5: next Saturday night. Number fourteen North Carolina a forty to

2096
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 5: seven winner against Syracuse. Quarterback Drake May four total touchdowns.

2097
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 5: Number sixteen Old miss with ten points in the last

2098
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 5: eight minutes, edged Darkansas twenty seven to twenty. Arkansas has

2099
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 5: lost four straight and will play at Alabama next. Number seventeen.

2100
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 5: Miami somehow lost at home to Georgia Tech twenty three

2101
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 5: to twenty. Miami. Instead of taking a knee with under

2102
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,520
Speaker 5: thirty seconds to go, Georgia Tech was out of timeouts.

2103
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 5: Hurricanes fumbled and then Georgia Tech went four plays seventy

2104
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 5: four yards for the winning score forty four yard touchdown

2105
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 5: pass with two seconds left. Hurricanes five turnovers in the loss.

2106
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 5: LSU wins at Missouri forty nine thirty nine with two

2107
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 5: touchdowns in the last three minutes. Jayde Daniels four total

2108
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 5: tds and one hundred thirty yards rushing and on Fox

2109
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 5: TV tonight, Wyoming upset number twenty four Fresno State. It

2110
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 5: was twenty four to seven at the half, twenty four

2111
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 5: to nineteen to the final. Two updates from the NFL

2112
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 5: new contract extension for Jonathan Taylor three years with the Colts,

2113
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 5: but running back at the Lions. Jamier Gibbs downgraded to doubtful.

2114
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 5: In fact, Ross Saint Brown, Detroit wide receiver also doubtful.

2115
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 5: Baseball Wow Division Series openers Dodgers killed at home by

2116
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 5: Arizona eleven to two. Diamondbacks led nine to nothing in

2117
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 5: the second inning, led eleven nothing in the eighth. D

2118
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 5: Backs hit four homers. Top seeded Braves shut out at

2119
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 5: home three nothing by Philadelphia. Bryce Harper a solo homer.

2120
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 5: He went two for two to walks, two run scored

2121
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 5: Philly's had five stolen bases. Top seed in the American League,

2122
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 5: Baltimore lost the opener of its best of five at

2123
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 5: home three two to Texas, even though the Rangers struck

2124
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 5: out sixteen times and left ten men on base. Justin

2125
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 5: Verlander and Houston edged Minnesota six to four. Verlander with

2126
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 5: six scoreless sinnings. Fact used in lead was five nothing

2127
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 5: after six jord Don Alvarez two home runs. Or reminder,

2128
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 5: FS one will have the American League playoffs again tomorrow

2129
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 5: starting at four pm Eastern time. Updating the late college

2130
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 5: football game. Trojans in Arizona tied mid fourth quarter, twenty eight.

2131
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 5: All back to you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve the Saga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Saturday Aaron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire

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Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios as the Sega just told you,

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Speaker 2: USC Arizona tied eight minutes left at the Coliseum. USC

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Speaker 2: obviously trying to stay undefeated as they get set for

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Speaker 2: a very difficult back half of the schedule starting next

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Speaker 2: week at Notreed.

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Speaker 3: AIM cannot lose this one.

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Speaker 2: If they have serious aspirations to win the Pac twelve

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Speaker 2: and compete for a playoff birth you hear that music,

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Speaker 2: Let's get it back to producer Pat for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the Week five NFL Preview. Go ahead, Pep, all right.

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Speaker 10: Guys, Well, we're not gonna go that far away from

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Speaker 10: the coliseum, but we're going for the NFL. It's gonna

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Speaker 10: be the Philadelphia Eagles, the fight in Phillies versus the

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Speaker 10: Los Angeles Rams. Rams are in fact home ats so far.

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Speaker 10: I'm not gonna lie to you, guys. It's gonna be

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Speaker 10: probably a pretty good fight. But that said, the Eagles,

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Speaker 10: while being the away team our favorite at four points.

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Speaker 6: Aaron, give me your take. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: You know Philly obviously, you know, Jason and I discussed

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Speaker 2: it earlier. I mean, they barely survived against Washington home

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01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 2: and I really think outside of that Monday Night against

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, they have not looked great. Los Angeles Rams,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's obviously been kind of a weird

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Speaker 2: up and down year. They survive Indianapolis last week. I

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Speaker 2: think the Rams get it at home, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I just think Philly has been playing with fire. You know,

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Speaker 2: overtime game last week Monday Night a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: So it's now like their third game in about twenty

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01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: or so days, including one that was emotional. I think

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Speaker 2: the Rams get the home win.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy. I mean that's a bold take right there.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've seen good Rams, I've seen bad Rams.

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Speaker 4: I want to see if Kyron Williams is able to

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Speaker 4: kind of jump back and be multifunctional. The Cup question

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Speaker 4: is still there. The Nakua thing remains one of the

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Speaker 4: most fascinating things I've seen in a while in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: just in terms of how effective he's been in that offense.

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01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 4: He has thirty nine catches this season. But you look

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Speaker 4: at the weapons for Philadelphia, it's still an undefeated team

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01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 4: as unimpressive at times as they have looked. Can the

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Speaker 4: defense make it really difficult on Jay when hurts and

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Speaker 4: push him around? That becomes a question mark. Give me Philadelphia, though,

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Rams are ready for this.

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Speaker 10: All right, All right now, we're gonna go with the

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Speaker 10: final one, and guys, I am not gonna lie here.

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Speaker 10: It's the meaty one. It's definitely the game of the week.

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Speaker 10: We got Cowboys Niners, and San Francisco is definitely home

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Speaker 10: for this clash the Titans type game now it's really

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Speaker 10: close spread, but they are favoring the Niners three and

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Speaker 10: a half points.

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Speaker 6: Jason, what do you think? Give me your take.

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Speaker 4: I think right now San Francisco is the best football

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Speaker 4: team in the league. This is at night in their building.

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Speaker 4: I do not trust Dak on the road in prime

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Speaker 4: time in this situation against that defense. I think that

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Speaker 4: they probably get to him stacking three or four times.

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Speaker 4: I think McCaffrey eats. He's just he's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: problem and he's gonna maybe even if he is bottled up,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna lead to some guys being opened down the

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Speaker 4: field for Brock Party, who just doesn't make the kind

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Speaker 4: of mistakes that lose games like this. So give me

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Speaker 4: San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm not as high on Dallas's

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Speaker 2: most because I just I know what Dack's limitations are. Like,

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Speaker 2: It's just we can fight it, we can argue it,

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Speaker 2: we can debate it, we can whatever. B plus quarterback,

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Speaker 2: B quarterback. He's not the dude, and you gotta be

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Speaker 2: the dude to go on the road against that defense.

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01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 2: And again, as Jason said a few times, a quarterback

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Speaker 2: in Brock Party that does not make mistakes, so I

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Speaker 2: like San Francisco to win that one as well. When outright,

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Speaker 2: keeping the updated on the game at the LA Coliseum,

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Wildcats have forced a punt. USC has given

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Speaker 2: the ball back to Arizona. Arizona has the ball with

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Speaker 2: about six and a half minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: They will have to go to the field.

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Speaker 2: It is a tie ball game, twenty eight to twenty

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Speaker 2: eight at the LA Coliseum. The ninth ranked USC Trojans

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Speaker 2: on the brink. You know, we'll see what happens. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's too early to say they're on the brink

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Speaker 2: of an upset, but Arizona will get the ball back

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Speaker 2: with about six and a half minutes to go. Twenty

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Speaker 2: eight to twenty eight. Arizona and USC get you updated

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Speaker 2: on that. Couple other stories to wrap the show. That's

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Speaker 2: all next Fox Sport.

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Speaker 4: Twty snap back to King plus out to his right,

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Speaker 4: lookie five seconds ago.

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Speaker 8: He will toss it in to the episode at the time.

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Speaker 8: Larry in the zone, who touchdown? Jackets? Touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Jackets? Who won?

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Speaker 8: Second left question? Hilarry and it's twenty three to twenty Jackets.

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Speaker 2: That was Sports Radio six point eighty as Georgia Tech

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01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 2: pulls off the stunner in the fire final seconds against

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech Miami finished was good? Arizona the Arizona Wildcats

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01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 2: in field goal range at the Los Angeles Coliseum two

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Speaker 2: minutes forty seconds to go, a tie ballgame, twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to twenty eight in the fourth quarter, they got inside

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Speaker 2: of USC territory. Twenty eight to twenty eight is the score,

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Speaker 2: and they are now setting up for a fifty or

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01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 2: so yard field goal at the LA Coliseum. USC will

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Speaker 2: get the ball back one way or another with two

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Speaker 2: minutes left, and the kick is missed.

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Speaker 4: Jason, it's a kicker who had not made one from

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Speaker 4: longer than thirty eight this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jason, here's the other thing. Not only had he

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Speaker 2: not made one longer than thirty eight, they kind of

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Speaker 2: rushed it like they had the clock was running down,

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Speaker 2: they still had guys coming out and off. They have

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01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 2: two timeouts left. They didn't have to they could have

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Speaker 2: called the time out. I mean, that's the I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say it's the game right there, but you're

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Speaker 2: giving Caleb Williams the ball back with with you know,

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Speaker 2: two minutes left. So this is the story of the night.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been a crazy day in college football. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Number three Texas loses earlier in the day, you know,

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Speaker 2: you look across the rest of the board.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame lost.

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Speaker 2: As a top fifteen team, you know whatever, but this

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Speaker 2: would obviously be the story of the day. Arizona and

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Speaker 2: USC tied twenty eight to twenty eight. Is it fair

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Speaker 2: to say, Jason? You know, I know what my opinion is,

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Speaker 2: but I just I don't think this USC team is it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I just look, I just look at you know, one,

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Speaker 2: I look at the college football landscape. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can name a dozen teams that I feel comfortable saying

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Speaker 2: are better than USC right now, but I think three

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Speaker 2: or four of them are in the Pac twelve alone,

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Speaker 2: And I just don't see the scenario where this team

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Speaker 2: is going to get through the rest of this schedule.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you even look at today, Caleb Williams had

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Speaker 2: a bad quarter and they might lose a home to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna happen when you play Oregon? What's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: when you play Washington. You see LA all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden has a very good defense. You know, independent of

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Speaker 2: what happens in this game, I think it'll probably go

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Speaker 2: final after we get off air here, when Bernie Fratto's on.

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Speaker 2: I don't see the scenario where USC is able to

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Speaker 2: rally the troops. I think they are who they are.

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Speaker 2: I think Kayleb Williams is special, and I think that

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Speaker 2: this defense is going to let him down, let this

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Speaker 2: team down.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what you would fear coming into the year,

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Speaker 4: and it's whatever USC fan wanted to see an answer

2283
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 4: to and what we now know. You're right, they are

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Speaker 4: exactly who we thought they were. They're a team that

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01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 4: can score a lot of points, but they can't stop anybody.

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Speaker 4: If it's going to be placed on their defense, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna lose. And their biggest concern here is that they

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01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 4: have not seen the real heavyweights yet. They haven't seen

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Speaker 4: the Heisman. Maybe the front runner in Michael Pennix or

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01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 4: another guy that's certainly in the mix and Bonix. They

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Speaker 4: haven't seen these guys, they haven't seen the meat of

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Speaker 4: this schedule, and they are going to be faced with

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Speaker 4: a scenario where Caleb Williams might score seventy and they

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01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 4: might lose eighty five to seventy. And that's the problem here.

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Speaker 4: And those other teams have defenses as well, and defenses

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Speaker 4: that maybe they're not all world like an SEC Classic defense,

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01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 4: but they're better than yours. So I would say that

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Speaker 4: the thought that USC runs the table, I can't make

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Speaker 4: the case for it right now. And as I have

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Speaker 4: said when we've talked about this in the past, should

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01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 4: they run the table, it's gonna be because Kayleb Williams

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Speaker 4: has played in a way that is just otherworldly. And tonight, look,

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Speaker 4: he's nine of eighteen, he's a fifty percent completion percent,

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01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 4: he didn't even have double digit completions in the game,

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Speaker 4: has one hundred and fifty one yards and he's rushed

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Speaker 4: for twenty five. He has three total touchdowns, but he

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01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,839
Speaker 4: has one hundred and seventy six total yards of offense

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Speaker 4: in the game. And maybe you're gonna win this because

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01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 4: Arizona shot themselves in the foot twice, once when they

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01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 4: had the chance to maybe knock this thing out and

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 4: instead through an interception late in the second quarter and

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Speaker 4: then the missed field goal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will keep you updated here if this

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01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 2: game goes final while we're on air. But I'm with

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01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: you is and it's a shame because Kayleb Williams is special.

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01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams deserves better than this. But no, I'm with you.

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01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't see the scenario where this ends well for USC.

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Speaker 2: And it's wild because it's like one of those weird

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 2: things where like, you know, if you're a USC fan,

2320
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: by the way, they have already crossed the fifty on

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01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 2: one play, like you're happy that you're relevant again. But

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01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 2: it's also like USC is one of those programs they

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 2: always expect to be good. So just because they had

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01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 2: the wrong coach and they were bad forever, you don't

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Speaker 2: get like a four year grace period just because they

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01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 2: stunk before you got there. Now that's not say like,

2327
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, Lincoln Riley's like in trouble or anything, but

2328
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, one you know USC if the

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01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 2: fan base isn't gonna be happy being nine to three

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 2: just because of the fact that they were so bad

2331
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 2: two three years ago and two. You know, this is

2332
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: obviously a continuation for Lincoln Riley, you know, from from

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Speaker 2: the previous coaching stop. So I don't know if you

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01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 2: have anything to add here, Jason, as USC is driving

2335
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 2: again for people just joining us. Bernie Fratt will be

2336
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 2: up here in just a moment. But twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: twenty eight USC Arizona under a minute to go, USC

2338
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 2: within the distance of their field goal kicker. Jason, Man,

2339
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 2: it looks like, you know, we're gonna be off air

2340
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Speaker 2: before this thing goes final us he's probably gonna survive.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's promising.

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Speaker 4: Jason, Yeah, I don't either. I mean I think, I think,

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Speaker 4: and we don't really have time to get into it.

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Speaker 4: But just you hired Lincoln Riley, and you got Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 4: for better or for worse. This is what he has

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Speaker 4: been and so we're gonna have to keep evaluating it

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Speaker 4: week after week.

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Speaker 3: We gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew Loraine on the board, producer

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Speaker 2: Pat Steve Desager from my partner Jason Martin, I am

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres. Make sure to download the podcast. A Lot

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Speaker 2: of good College Football, a Lot of Good NFL. Bernie

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