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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well.

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Speaker 1: and just watch a little Monday night football game. The

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Robert Salah dominate Bryce Young and the

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Speaker 1: had good Nights party. You know, pretty rough, first half,

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Speaker 1: Calm down a little bit in the second half. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers fell apart, so we'll dive into that game.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into all that. And the plan this week

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. You know, speaking of this

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Speaker 1: Panther situation, their quarterback feels a little overwhelmed. And I think,

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Speaker 1: looking back, he's a great, great kid. I've been a

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00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: huge fan since he was at Alabama and beat Georgia

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Speaker 1: in that SEC championship game with Jamison Williams and John

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Speaker 1: Metchi and then I think either Williams or Mechi got

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Speaker 1: hurt in that game, and then the other guy got

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Speaker 1: hurt in the playoff game, and then he didn't have

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Speaker 1: either in the remats against Georgia. But I have a

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Speaker 1: ton of respect for Bryce Young, as if you're five

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00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: to nine, one hundred and eighty five pounds and you

455
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Speaker 1: can play in the SEC in the NFL, you're you're

456
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: a tough motherfucker. Problem is, he's just not that good

457
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and we will never see a guy his size ever

458
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: drafted number one. Again, honestly, drafting a guy five nine

459
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds in an NFL draft

460
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: at quarterback is borderline insanity. Now, he was an excellent

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Speaker 1: player at Alabama, but I just think there's a big

462
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: difference sometimes between college and the pros, asked JJ McCarthy.

463
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: And you're watching him players like he just his coach

464
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: isn't helping him out. It doesn't feel like anyone knows

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00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean, he got a intentional grounding

466
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Speaker 1: on a play that I guess, by the letter of

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00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: the law, was intentional grounding. But even Aikman was like,

468
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't intentionally grounding the ball. Him and the wide

469
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: receiver are just both in different planets of what's supposed

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00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: to happen. And that happened four or five times tonight.

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00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: The guy would go right and Bryce would throw left,

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00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: where Bryce would throw left and the guy would go

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Speaker 1: straight and the ball would just land and no man's land.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to.

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Speaker 1: Dave Canals, are you guys practicing? Do your guys have

476
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Speaker 1: any Does Lagett McMillan, your other wide receivers and your

477
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: quarterback have any clue what they're doing as a group,

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Speaker 1: Because it did not feel that way too many times

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Speaker 1: to night.

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Speaker 2: This is the NFL.

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00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: This is end of November. It's one thing week one

482
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: young team, totally get it. Training camp, hell, even early

483
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Speaker 1: October a couple games in.

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Speaker 2: You guys are six and five.

485
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: To not be on the same page, pretty embarrassing. And

486
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: part of that, like on the quarterback, like the whole

487
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: thing falls on you. But in this modern day business

488
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Speaker 1: of the NFL, when I draft you in the first round,

489
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Speaker 1: I have to decide after the third year whether to

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Speaker 1: pick up your fifth year option. And to me, it's

491
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Speaker 1: an easy answer. With this guy, it's a no. Now,

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, I probably get a different quarterback

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Speaker 1: next year. We know how difficult that is. So if

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Speaker 1: you tell me who the Panthers quarterback will be in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, I'd bet more than likely it will

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00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: be Bryce Young, but it will be on his last

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Speaker 1: year of his contract, and I would imagine that he

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Speaker 1: won't be on the team after next year.

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Speaker 2: And I think it all gets back to.

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Speaker 1: I even remember going to Fresno State, coming from cal

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Speaker 1: Pauly where I was helping the football team, and thinking

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Speaker 1: of the different size of guys in athletes, just going

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Speaker 1: from D one double A, which we were a playoff

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Speaker 1: team when I was at cal Paly, playing like the

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Speaker 1: North Dakota States in Montana's and then going to Fresno State,

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Speaker 1: who was obviously not even power forward. They're playing you know,

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Speaker 1: the Byus, the Utahs, the Boise States. And then when

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Speaker 1: I went to the NFL, seeing the difference of the

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Speaker 1: next level of guys, where every dude on that team

510
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: looks like Ryan Matthews.

511
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Speaker 2: And it's not a it's not.

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Speaker 3: A sport for little people.

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Speaker 1: It really isn't, especially a quarterback, because the guys standing

514
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Speaker 1: in front of you are at the smallest, are going

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Speaker 1: to be six three. I would imagine the average size

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Speaker 1: of an offensive lineman at garter tackle in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is over six', four and the average tackle is between

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Speaker 1: sixty five and sixty.

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Speaker 3: Six so it's just a numbers.

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Speaker 1: Game If i'm five to nine and i have a

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Speaker 1: guy six foot six to the left or right of,

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Speaker 1: me And i'm trying to throw a slant or an out,

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Speaker 1: ROUTE i would imagine a route that you throw more

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Speaker 1: consistently than a post or a go.

525
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: Route it's just going to be.

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Speaker 1: Difficult to see BECAUSE i think a lot of times

527
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: and this was a. PLAY i don't know if it

528
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: was last week or it might have been two weeks

529
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: ago When bryce to an awful. PICK i truly believe

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00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: he just threw it to the spot the guy was

531
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Speaker 1: supposed to be and he can't. See that Hurts purty

532
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: And perty's, over you, know like six foot, one and

533
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of balls batted. Down he struggles to.

534
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: See he oftentimes because he is, smart Like, bryce they

535
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: just throw to a spot knowing the guy is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: There but like if You're Peyton manning Or Tom brady

537
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Speaker 1: Or Carson palmer and you're six foot six and you can,

538
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: see maybe you're less likely to pull the trigger because

539
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: you know it's a bad. Decision AND i would always,

540
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: now you can only take what the league gives, you

541
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: but you can't operate a five to, nine especially with

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Speaker 1: his physical. Attributes even my wife was, like Isn't Kyler

543
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Speaker 1: murray really? Small i'm, like, well, yeah, One Kyler, MURRAY

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Speaker 1: i would, say it's widely considered is not that good,

545
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: either but way better Than. Bryce kyler weighs like twenty

546
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Speaker 1: pounds more Than. Bryce Show kyler has a high end

547
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Speaker 1: arm in terms of. Velocity kyler obviously is a high end.

548
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Athlete bryce is none of those. Things so when you

549
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: look at the, qualities you go it's what drives me

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Speaker 1: ut sometimes against With, purty it's, Like, brock you need

551
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Speaker 1: to be like mister accuracy and mister decision, maker not

552
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: mister like. Renegade run around making plays here where you

553
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: kind of can Because brock is a much better athlete Than,

554
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: bryce so he's really good with his, feet but SOMETIMES

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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: i think he kind of gets into this, mode, like

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Speaker 1: bro you're Not Josh allen pumped the. Brakes, Well bryce

557
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: is like he's a pocket. Quarterback he's kind of like

558
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: a shittier version Of. Tua it's like what's going on?

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Here and then just you just can't.

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Speaker 2: Really operate like.

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Speaker 1: That and obviously The panthers you play some bad. Teams

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00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: you play The falcons enough, Times yeah you're gonna get some.

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00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: Wins but you play a forty nine er team that

564
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: relative to previous, years you, know is average at best

565
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: for their standards in terms of the team they're rolling

566
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: out there and you just get molly wopped like. THAT i,

567
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Mean Robert salah, Embarrassed Dave canalis And Bryce young today

568
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: like that direct deposit when it hits For. BRYCE i

569
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Speaker 1: think TYPICALLY nfl players get paid On. TUESDAY i would

570
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Speaker 1: imagine coaches get paid like every Other, friday like a normal,

571
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: person but they should think twice when they see that

572
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: number hit and be, like, YEAH i don't know IF

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00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: i earned this. One i'm not gonna give it. Back you,

574
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: know we signed, contracts BUT i feel a little guilty

575
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: about spending this money because the. Performance this is a

576
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: production based, business. Right it's not about feelings or how

577
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: MUCH i like. You it's like are you good or?

578
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: Not can he get it done or you? Can't and

579
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Speaker 1: you're watching it a night Like Robert salah absolutely punk

580
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: those two guys and honestly Made. Bryce and it pains

581
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Speaker 1: me to say this because Again i'm Not monday morning.

582
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Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i would have taken him OVER.

583
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Speaker 3: Cj.

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Speaker 1: STRATTU i was, wrong and looking, back it's, Like, John

585
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Speaker 1: you've been around these guys in WHAT i remember WHEN

586
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Speaker 1: i was In, philly thinking, Like Michael vick is on

587
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Speaker 1: the small, end And Michael vick's Got Bryce young by

588
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: three inches and got him by twenty miles an hour

589
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: in terms of running and arm, strength not even. Comparable

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00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: it's like that would never work in THE. Nfl but

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00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: it's Like tom play Against georgia And Jalen carter And

592
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Jordan davis And Nolan smith take, hits bump back, up make.

593
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Plays college is a different world because every Guy's Nolan

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Speaker 1: smith in THE, nfl every single guy the backups are

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00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: you saw Tonight Cleveland ferrell coming off the, edge who's

596
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: an underwhelming would be known as like a bust as

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00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: a top ten, pick but is gonna have a ten

598
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: YEAR nfl. Career all these guys will hit your. Ass

599
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: all these guys could, run all these corners can, cover

600
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: so if your arm's kind of average and you can't

601
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Speaker 1: get the ball in and the forty nine ers took

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Speaker 1: full advantage of.

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Speaker 3: It so that.

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Speaker 1: Was, Honestly i'm probably more excited if that had been

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Speaker 1: if that same game had happened and it was Like

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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Panthers cardinals or. WHATEVER i don't know If i'd have

607
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: the same. Juice but you, know the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: get my family going and big, Win kyle's eight and,

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: four and they deserve a lot of credit because they have,

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Speaker 1: had like they do every, year a lot of. Injuries,

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Speaker 1: obviously THE auk, situation WHICH i hit on a little bit.

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00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Yesterday still don't quite.

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00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND i even Saw Mike silver on local radio in

614
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: The Bay area even discussing, it and even he was, like,

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00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: yeah it's really. Confusing and he's the guy reporting on the.

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00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Story he's, LIKE i WISH i had more, information but

617
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't all add. Up BUT i know this having

618
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: AND i spent a lot of time around that. Team

619
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the moment you start doing that, shit even separate from the,

620
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: money like the twenty five, million.

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Speaker 3: You're just you get shunned like.

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00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: That that's never gonna fly with the with The John,

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Speaker 1: Lynch Kyle, Shanahan Robert sala kinda mantra culture, mindset will

624
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: never be. Tolerated so not shocking at all to just

625
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: see he's like, Ostracized like, listen you're not gonna fight

626
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: for your twenty five million or nuts are you want?

627
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: Drugs but regardless.

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00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Of, that like you're just not welcome around here because

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Speaker 1: look Like Bosa Fred warner like we want you guys

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00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: around and uh look AT i, mean it's WHY I

631
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: Matt jones is in my respect to come, in not

632
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: just play as well as he, is but to fit right.

633
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: In not it's WHY i started buying. Stock ONCE i

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Saw Sam darnold and the way those guys talked about H i'm, like,

635
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: huh maybe this guy's a higher level guy THAN i.

636
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: Thought three years, later he's one of the best quarterbacks

637
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: in THE.

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00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: Nfl, okay a couple other.

639
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: THINGS i add one THING i just think.

640
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: We need to talk about a little bit with. Football

641
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: football is not. Fair guess what else isn't?

642
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: Fair?

643
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: Life do you think it's fair if You're Kyle.

644
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Shanahan you look out there and all the guys you're

645
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: paying a lot of money are on injured reserve with

646
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: casts and knee.

647
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Braces, right do you think it's fair.

648
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: When just some random guy gets fired from his job

649
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: because they don't need him anymore and he's worked for

650
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: the company for thirty.

651
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Years life is not?

652
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Fair AND i heard, LIKE i Like Kevin clark a,

653
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: lot AND i heard him on With Ryan, roussillo and

654
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: both the guys are, like you, know it wouldn't be

655
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: fair to not GIVE jj.

656
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: McCarthy next year to be the.

657
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Starter it's, like, guys this is not sixth. Grade we're

658
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: not teaching life lessons in THE. NFL jj McCarthy in

659
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: his short career is like the ultimate combination of. Disaster

660
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: he's not good or productive and now he's always. Injured

661
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: it couldn't be going any. Worse and we have recent

662
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: examples Of Anthony richardson Of Trey, lance of these teams

663
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: pivoting so fast and not these aren't awful. Teams Like

664
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Trevor lawrence is gonna be The jacks quarterback for like twelve.

665
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Years he'll just be the quarterback in. Perpetuity when you're,

666
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: hell if you told Me Bryce young's their quarterback for

667
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: like eight, years somewhat. Believable there is no chance In,

668
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: minnesota an organization that most of my, life going back

669
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: to the, nineties the two, thousands the twenty, tens the.

670
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Last couple of years like that.

671
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: Organiza they might not Win Super, bowls but they consistently.

672
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: Win they are well. Run AND i Know kevin O'Connell

673
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: made some comments about organizations fail players more often than

674
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: players fail. Organizations but sometimes players just aren't good. Enough

675
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: AND i think we have to look back AT jj

676
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: McCarthy and go it might have been the perfect. Storm

677
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: you wanted to buy into the, guy but it turns

678
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: out he couldn't have betted a better. Cocoon he was

679
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: on a team that really wasn't a fair, fight and

680
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: the only good, team especially like three or four years

681
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: ago they were playing in The Big, ten Was Ohio.

682
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: State he didn't have to do, much handed the ball

683
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: off and they played. Defense he played for a coach

684
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: that only wanted to run the. Ball, obviously now he

685
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: plays for a coach that wants to throw, it and

686
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: all the stats are out he can't throw. It BUT

687
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: i would say as concerning as his poor, play we've

688
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: seen a lot of young, Guys Peyton, Manning Troy aikman

689
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: come into THE nfl and shit the bet. Early Even Troy,

690
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: AIKMAN i, remember was it The cowboy. Documentary MAYBE i

691
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: heard him say it in the podcast that he, thought

692
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: after like a year that they might just move on from.

693
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Him he's, LIKE i don't know If i'm gonna. Last you,

694
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Know Peyton manning rookie year couldn't have gone much, worse

695
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: but they were, available they were on the. Field this

696
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: guy missed his entire rookie year with a knee, injury

697
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: wasn't even available to practice and quote unquote develop this.

698
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Year he has the longest ankle sprain we've ever. Seen

699
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: and now he has a, concussion and a lot of

700
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: people think, like, oh this is a fake, concussion this

701
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: is a soft. Benching, WELL i follow the football pretty

702
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: closely a lot of. Guys he's not the first and

703
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: he won't be the last a guy to get concussion like,

704
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: symptoms either the next day or on the plane ride.

705
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Home it, happens but there is no way around it

706
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: that when you're not productive and you're not, available like

707
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: in most, industries you're kind of. Useless this is not

708
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: like high school softball where we're trying to hold hands

709
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: and bring everyone along and make sure everyone feels. INVOLVED

710
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: i played on a high school football. Team no one got.

711
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: Cut if you went out for the, team you got

712
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: pads in, helmet everyone got to dress on game. Days

713
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: it's not the way THE nfl.

714
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: Works and they're.

715
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Paying a lot of people in that team a lot of.

716
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Money AND i THINK jj McCarthy's. TIME i know it's

717
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: only he's only played six, games BUT i don't just

718
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: think it's ticket In. MINNESOTA i think it's in, major major,

719
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: trouble AND i think he's been so bad you'd be

720
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: hard pressed to even sign someone else and make him the.

721
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Backup you wouldn't feel comfortable with him playing in games

722
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: because what he's shown right, now when he, plays you.

723
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Lose and you look at some of these teams around the,

724
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: league like their backup comes in they can just win and,

725
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: function And minnesota.

726
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: Goes we're. Good look at the Forty.

727
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Niners what DID i just, Say Kyle, Shanahan Robert. Solo,

728
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: well if You're, minnesota what's your greatest asset Beside Justin,

729
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: Jefferson kevin, O'Connell Brian. Flores give Me Davis, mills give

730
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Me Mac. Jones give me a guy who can just.

731
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Function i'll promise you. This we won't go six and.

732
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Eleven we might not go fifteen wins or fourteen wins,

733
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: again but will be closer to ten than we will.

734
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Five and IF jj had started every single game for

735
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: him this, YEAR i don't know if they win more than.

736
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: Four or five.

737
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Games he's just completely. Overwhelmed middle coof you gotta give him.

738
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Time their patience doesn't exist. Anymore all these. Guys there's

739
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: too much money in the. Line the clocks of survival for,

740
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: coaches for, gms for players is way too. Short now

741
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: there's no just giving three more.

742
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Years no.

743
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Chance if you tell me right now THE jj McCarthy

744
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback For minnesota next, Year i'd be.

745
00:38:43,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: STUNNED i would be. STUNNED i cannot see. It the

746
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: other thing about not being, fair the way THE nfl

747
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: works during the draft is you, know typically if you

748
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: draft A Miles, garrett A Nick, bosa, whoever really, high

749
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: most people in the organization are fired, up, right the position,

750
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: coach the, coordinator the head, coach the, scouts everyone's on.

751
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Board hell, yeah we just Drafted panay Sul Jamar, Chase

752
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: like no one in the building. Disagrees but as you,

753
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: go once you get to the, third the, fourth the fifth,

754
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: round guess, what there are a lot of different. Opinions it's,

755
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: like you, know the CONVERSATION i have most in my

756
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: house what are we doing for?

757
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: Dinner AND i, go, well what do you?

758
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Want she, goes well what do you?

759
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: Want and we go back and.

760
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Forth, well imagine if you had instead of just two,

761
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: people you had twenty.

762
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: People and this.

763
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: Guy Wants, italian this guy Wants. Chinese this, dude will

764
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: you don't Wants. Mexican this dude's cool cheese. Burgers maybe this,

765
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: GUY i will Do, italian but.

766
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: He also kind of likes The chinese.

767
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: Too everyone's opinions are all over the, board and everyone

768
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: in football has a different progative because if you're a defensive,

769
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: coordinator you're gonna want a defensive. Guy if you're an offensive,

770
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: coordinator you're gonna, go we, need we have a need,

771
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: here and everyone's on different. Pages so you see the

772
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: video Of stepanski in Shaudor, sanders and it's gone pretty,

773
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: viral And i've kind of torn BECAUSE i do think

774
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: it's a little over top on the, reaction BUT i

775
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: also think it's like it's a rookie making his first.

776
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: START i think you could have just you didn't even.

777
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: Listen he's given the gay ball to one of the

778
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of the, Sport Miles, garrett

779
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: who looks like he's on pace for thirty, Sacks like right,

780
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: now sitting Here november twenty, Fourth if you, Said, john

781
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: how many sacks do you Think Miles garrett ends up?

782
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: With he's got eighteen, now like next week gets the

783
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: forty nine. ERS i think he bangs out a.

784
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: Couple who else do they?

785
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Play they got The, titans The, bears all line is not.

786
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: GREAT i, mean The bills a line definitely doesn't look.

787
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: Good rogers can't really move the same The bengals all.

788
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: Line he could end up with twenty, Eight so it's

789
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: like giving him the game. Ball isn't that? WEIRD i

790
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: also think rookie making his first started quarterback pretty easy

791
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: one to go give it up For, shador even if

792
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: it's just an extra second or. Two So i'm on

793
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: board with, like, yeah a little, Weird but here's the.

794
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Reality guys drafted in the, fifth, sixth seventh ROUND a

795
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of, times the head coach might not even like that.

796
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Player that might be THE gms, Pick that might be

797
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: someone the ASSISTANT gm pushing that guy. On maybe the

798
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: head coach likes that, guy but the coordinator and the

799
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: physician coach don't like that. Guy like there are guys

800
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: all over the league, drafted especially on the third, day

801
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: where people in the, building and this sounds, crazy do

802
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: not like the, player do not want the, player do

803
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: not want to coach the.

804
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: Player but it's just you kind of have.

805
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: To but, still we're all human. Beings if you work

806
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: with someone and you don't like, them you get to a,

807
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: point especially if you're at their level where you're making.

808
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: A lot of, money it's hard to.

809
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Fake and Clearly stefanski Drafted Dylan. Gabriel, now anyone with

810
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the brain, Goes Dylan.

811
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: Gabriel is not very, good.

812
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: Well no, shit But, stefanski who listen a lot of

813
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: coaches awfully. Evaluators so if you tell me That stefanski

814
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: was a guy banging the table For Dylan, GABRIEL i

815
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: can't look At Kevin stefanski the.

816
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: Same, ever, AGAIN i just.

817
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Can't, NOW i can't blame him For Shador. Sanders the

818
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: rest of the league wasn't touching him. Either so it's

819
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: not like it's, like hey, man everyone thought this guy

820
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: was the next And Andrew. Luck no one would touch the.

821
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Guy but clearly he doesn't like. Him. Right but here's the,

822
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Thing schador's no different than a lot of players all

823
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: over the, league their head coach or, coordinator whatever's on.

824
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: Board like what do we talk, ABOUT jj, McCarthy production based, business?

825
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Play well, enough keep making. Plays there's nothing they can.

826
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Do they can't take you off the. Field the other,

827
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: thing if you're shouldre look at the guy you're competing,

828
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Against Dylan, gabriel dink and dunk capital of the. WORLD i,

829
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: mean he just the competition is not. Great so the

830
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: thing Was Kevin. Stefanski that's happening all over THE nfl

831
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: with late round.

832
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Picks people are.

833
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: Mad a guy's on.

834
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: There it's NOT i don't think. Abnormal now it's not as.

835
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Public you know why because most, fifth, sixth and seventh

836
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: round picks, you, me and everyone else watching football does

837
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: not care. About no one, cared and really you never see.

838
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Them this is the most public situation with a fifth

839
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: round pick as a ROOKIE i can ever remember right

840
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: this would be the. Equivalent it has a t bow,

841
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: quality but there also now feels like some tangible. Dislike

842
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: but if you're a stre, like go out and make some.

843
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Plays you get the forty nine ers this. Week their,

844
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: defense they have a good defensive coordinator coming off a short.

845
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: Week you get them at.

846
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: HOME i haven't checked the weather, yet but heard he

847
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: has not played well in weather, games so who, know

848
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers might not score that many. POINTS

849
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: i also think the. Overreaction you, know they had eleven.

850
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: COMPLETIONS i think they had eleven first. Downs The raiders had.

851
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Nineteen so it's just let's pump the brakes a little.

852
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Bit but like Shod or controls all, this you keep making.

853
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: Plays they can't sit. You there's no slowing it. Down,

854
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Stefanski you'll win that, battle because what happens they typically fire,

855
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: coaches they don't fire players that show promise if there's

856
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: a if there's a battle between the, TWO i know

857
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Who Jimmy haslin will. Pick google how many coaches he's.

858
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Fired pretty sure it's a lot of. Them SO i

859
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: just think this notion of like every he's not.

860
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: Nice it's just fucking.

861
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: Football you, know it's like he doesn't like. Him you're

862
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: starting now as a fifth round.

863
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: Pick it's all you know in front of.

864
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: You so all these, excuses all these people, complaining it's,

865
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: like just he goes makes. Place everyone will shut up

866
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: and St fanski will be fired at the end of the.

867
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Year it'll be that.

868
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: Simple and, honestly the waste Of fanski maybe wants to get,

869
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: Fired maybe he's just tired of working In. Cleveland, last

870
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: but not, least speaking of THE Afc, north The, steelers

871
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: can we just admit that what's happening in their franchise

872
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing BECAUSE i, Have and let me say,

873
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: THIS i respect the hell out of the, organization out

874
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: of the, brand out of the power of their fan,

875
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: base which is enormous what they have built over fifty

876
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: plus years.

877
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Of winning in THE.

878
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: Nfl anyone around, football any of you that have been

879
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: to a game where your team plays The, STEELERS i

880
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: would say them and The, PACKERS i don't care if

881
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you're In San, francisco if you're In, tampa if you're

882
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: In New. York they travel as, well if not better

883
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: than any team in the. League and when you think

884
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh steelers brand didn't means, SOMETHING i remember WHEN

885
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: i was working At President state AND i met me

886
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: And Joe. GREEN i never say me And Joe green

887
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: play a. Snap he was retired BEFORE i was, born

888
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: BUT i knew exactly who Mean Joe green, was and

889
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: it felt LIKE i was meeting and shaking the hand

890
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: of football. Royalty and Mean joe forgot his phone AND

891
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: i found it and he was really nice to. Me

892
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: but The, steelers like WHEN i in like starting in

893
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: two thousand and that run Of cower handing it over To,

894
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: tomlin they went to five conference championship, games Three Super,

895
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: bowls and one. Two that stretch in the two thousands

896
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: through twenty, ten they were, dominant and then Once tomlin

897
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: And roethlisberg got the, reins they were rattling off twelve,

898
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: eleven thirteen win. Seasons they went to the playoffs between

899
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: twenty ten and twenty twenty the majority of, seasons but

900
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: they only went to one conference championship. Game they did

901
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: not go to The Super bowl from eleven to twenty, twenty,

902
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: obviously and then the last five years of this decade

903
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: they've been to three wild card. Games and this is

904
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: where it's, Like, okay you're going to conference championship. Games,

905
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: Listen it's what The patriots do is. Abnormal but if

906
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: like every three or four years you go into a

907
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: conference championship, game you're riding off some playoff, victories like,

908
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: okay it's like The, ravens, right or The bills what

909
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: they've been doing this. Year they can't beat The, chiefs

910
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: no different than a lot of people couldn't Beat Michael.

911
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: JORDAN a lot of people couldn't Beat Tiger. Woods welcome to, sports,

912
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Right but The steelers could always hold their head, high

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: even The tomlin run that he had from eleven to

914
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: like the end of the two thousand and eighteen nineteen,

915
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: runers like.

916
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: That was really.

917
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Impressive but over the last four or five years they

918
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: have really fallen.

919
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: Off Like, john they never, lose it's, like, okay they've been.

920
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: Three wild card games and they've played the three best

921
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: teams in their, conference The, chiefs The, ravens and The.

922
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: Bills in twenty twenty, two they played The, chiefs they

923
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: lost forty two to twenty. One in twenty twenty, four

924
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: which was the twenty three, season they played The. Bills

925
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: they lost by two. Touchdowns last, season they played The

926
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: ravens and they lost by two. Touchdowns now they're currently

927
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: not even in first place after The Baltimore ravens started

928
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: one and. Five their, quarterback if you just watched them

929
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: the other day against The, jets looks like he's going

930
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: about fifty. Percent and there is not a soul THAT

931
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: i know that would not take The ravens to end

932
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: up winning that.

933
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: Division over The.

934
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Steelers And i've been saying this for a, while Like

935
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: i'm no longer saying you should fire the, guy AND

936
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: i don't root for anyone to get, fired BUT i

937
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: think we have to acknowledge that this run is kind of.

938
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: Over This tomlin thing is not, working and, honestly it's

939
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: not even all his. Fault their talent the team THAT

940
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: i grew up on definitely in the two, thousands but

941
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: even that run of like from eleven to like sixteen or,

942
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: seventeen they had so much more talent on their roster

943
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: than they do.

944
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 3: NOW.

945
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: Tj watson elite. Player hayward is a.

946
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Legend love that. Guy he's been on this podcast. Before,

947
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Obviously rogers in the peak of his power is one

948
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks. Ever but now he's forty, one

949
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: he's got a broken bone in his left. Rist king

950
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: and play, games and you're going With Mason. Rudolph you

951
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: have one wide receiver who's kind of, overpaid you have

952
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: seven tight, ends you don't really have a true number

953
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: one running, back and you can't win any. GAMES i

954
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: mean every single. Time it's one thing you lose The

955
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: bills right another thing to look up and you're losing

956
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: To Caleb williams and, honestly they kind of work to

957
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: in the second. Half you deserve to lose that. Game

958
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: you're not as good as. Them and is there Any

959
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: steeler fan alive that would be, like who would you

960
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: want to be the head coach of your team for

961
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: the next five, Years Mike tomlin Or Ben.

962
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Johnson i'll BET i know what they would. Say they

963
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: would Say Ben.

964
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Johnson and eventually you have to pivot and a lot Like,

965
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: alabama a lot Like Ohio, state a lot like The

966
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Packers you're an organization where people would be

967
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: lined up to go. Work it speaks for, itself the,

968
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: history the, passion and the overall standard of. Winning but

969
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: the standard just doesn't feel the same and what they

970
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: used to be they no longer. Are and if you're

971
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: just bragging, about, yeah we get to a wild card

972
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: and then we play a good team and we lose

973
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: by twenty, points that feels kind of. Sad imagine telling

974
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: A steeler fan in two thousand and eight that would

975
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: eventually be your. Destiny you're, LIKE i don't really want.

976
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: That it's like, yeah and you really don't have any.

977
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Future it's, like, well who's our Quarterbacks this forty one

978
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: year old guy who's probably gonna retire and now he's,

979
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: injured and then his Backups Mason, rudolph who obviously is

980
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: in the, future and, yeah it's just YOUR Gm we're

981
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: not even sure there's any good anymore Because colbert retired

982
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: and this was the guy negotiating the, contracts and now

983
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: the talent on the team looks dramatically worse than it

984
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: once originally. Did SO i think part of The steelers

985
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: what they always had is the. Talent it always jumped

986
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: off the, screen the, physicality and you watch them, like,

987
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah TJ's been on the team.

988
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: For a, decade but who are the other?

989
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: Guys where's the offensive town THE dk METCALF i still maintain.

990
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: And, Listen i'm not always.

991
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: RIGHT i thought The George pickens trade For dallas was,

992
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: crazy BUT i thought it was crazy because you have

993
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: a first year head coach who's gonna have a lot of.

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: Pressure it's just gonna it's gonna put a lot On

995
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: dak and it has. Worked THE dk thing is like

996
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna give a second and one hundred and fifty

997
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: million dollars to a guy for the next three or

998
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: four years when you don't even know who's gonna be

999
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback that entire, time or how your offense is gonna,

1000
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: play when your offensive coordinator is really much more of

1001
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: a run first.

1002
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: Guy it didn't that.

1003
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Up but that's what you do when you're just, like, oh,

1004
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: players you're kind of Playing, Madden, like let's just acquire this.

1005
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Guy we just's make a trade for this. Guy John snyder's, like,

1006
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: wait you really give me a second round pick FOR dka.

1007
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: BACK i see.

1008
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: You, audios have a good, one. Godspeed SO i it

1009
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: pains me to say this BECAUSE i respect the hell

1010
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: out of what this team stands, for BUT i think

1011
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: we gotta be brutally on it and be like they.

1012
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Did kind of sad what The steelers are. Currently, audios

1013
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: have a great. Night the volume mm hmm