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Speaker 1: Eighty five Sound Show twenty twenty four b EG Awards Exclusive.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to nobody who ain't interesting,

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Speaker 1: and today I'm talking to a legend.

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Speaker 2: If you know, you know this is a real legend.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I told you I was gonna make sure you got.

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Speaker 1: To the twenty twenty four BT Awards, and I wasn't

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Speaker 1: bringing you around nobody but the best that this entertainment

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Speaker 1: industry has to offer, and we got none other than

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Speaker 1: the OG himself.

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Speaker 2: Everybody type of intro.

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Speaker 4: You, man, I need I need that intro everywhere I go. Man,

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Speaker 4: I love that all that when I wake up in

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Speaker 4: the morning to you a legend, wake up, I like

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Speaker 4: that you are, man, Thank you for that, sir, giving

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Speaker 4: us it's man, I ain't done yet.

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Speaker 2: Man, How does it feel? It feels?

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Speaker 4: It feels gratitude. Man, that's the word gratitude. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, it sounds like a something you see on

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Speaker 4: a poster, inspirational poster.

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Speaker 2: But it's the truth. It's like the more gratitude.

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Speaker 4: You feel every time something happens, like that, every time

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Speaker 4: I come out with a song that starts going up

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Speaker 4: the charts. You know, don't take it to the ego place,

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Speaker 4: take it to the gratitude place.

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Speaker 2: And then that just like feeds feeds.

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Speaker 4: More blessings, you know. So I mean that's what it

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Speaker 4: feels like. And uh uh.

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Speaker 2: You know we're doing it again.

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Speaker 4: I got to single out with Tamar Braxton that we're

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Speaker 4: going for as she is incredible, man, come on.

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Speaker 2: Like shout out to take like we go.

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Speaker 4: We go for ads at radio next week and it's

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Speaker 4: already blowing up. So it's but she sounds incredible on it.

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Speaker 4: The song is called something we Can Make Love To.

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Speaker 2: I know it, yes, album, I know right, you drop

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Speaker 2: some music. That's what's happening. That's right, that's right, exactly

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Speaker 2: what's up? Hey, you better come out let me all right?

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Speaker 4: Bet yeah yeah yeah, but uh, you know, she's just

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Speaker 4: been a dream, you know, to work with. And she

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Speaker 4: said something about her her voice and my voice together

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Speaker 4: it's like it's perfect alchemy of just just romance and

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Speaker 4: y'all got to hear it. So I decided to do

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Speaker 4: a project that was all duets. My upcoming project is

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Speaker 4: all duets with me and female artists.

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Speaker 2: And I wrote a.

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Speaker 4: Bunch of songs with a bunch of producers, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I Alison Ball is the CEO of my label, and

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Speaker 4: she had the brilliant idea that, you know, we need

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Speaker 4: to we need to go roll through Atlanta and go

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Speaker 4: holler at Tricky and Laney Stewart because you know, they

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Speaker 4: king of the world right now.

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Speaker 2: And so Laney was like, Yo, you need to check

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Speaker 4: So he sent us the demo of this song, and

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Speaker 4: I immediately resonated to this thing. And Tricky reached out

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Speaker 4: to Tamar and said, Tamar, you think you want to

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Speaker 4: jump on this with Eric Breney And she didn't hesitate.

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Speaker 4: It was like the same literally the day he asked her.

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Speaker 4: She was like, let me drive over to the studio

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Speaker 4: right now, and she hopped into vocal ble and killed it.

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Speaker 2: Y'all. You know what's crazy. People always see the reality

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Speaker 2: TV show Tamart.

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Speaker 1: They don't get to see how she could, Like she's

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Speaker 1: like a sniper, wouldn't come to that music.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Like vocally she's she's like as soon as you

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Speaker 4: hear the song, it's like like, I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: know that side of Tamar. I know, like this incredibly beautiful,

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Speaker 4: sweet person whoever we hang out, we crack it up,

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Speaker 4: and vocally she's a beast.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's your process when you write in these

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Speaker 1: ballats and these duets.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: So my biggest hits are People always think songwriting is

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Speaker 4: kind of like journalism. It's like, oh, you write, you

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Speaker 4: writing that because you're going through that right now, But

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Speaker 4: not not so much with me. Some of my biggest

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Speaker 4: romantic ballads I've written when I was just lonely or

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Speaker 4: I'm writing about a fantasy that is not really happening

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Speaker 4: to describe what I want beautifully. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: why they like, like, when I wrote spend my Life

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Speaker 1: I started, Man, I ain't make the record hit completely right,

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Speaker 1: just what I want, Yeah, this is exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I start thinking about what do I want? I want.

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Speaker 4: I want that person where I see them every morning

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Speaker 4: when they open their eyes and I feel like, Wow,

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Speaker 4: this is where God put me, just to find my piece,

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Speaker 4: my side. So it's like that was the That's what

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Speaker 2: What keep me? First of all, mister man, put you

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Speaker 1: Look just around the disneys start she was calling nearyboy oh,

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Speaker 2: So cute, So I got a respect. I can't go hey,

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Speaker 2: come me, there you go, there you go, there you go? Now?

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Speaker 2: What keep you inspired? Though?

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Speaker 3: Like just to keep putting out like you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like classic material?

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Speaker 4: Though, Man, I that's an excellent question. I think I

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Speaker 4: made a decision to make a long story short. Like

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Speaker 4: before I got my first solo deal, the label was

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Speaker 4: interested in me as an artist because they liked my voice.

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Speaker 4: So they put me with all of these producers were

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Speaker 2: And I was out there.

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Speaker 4: I was in l a for a couple of months,

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Speaker 4: I sounded good on the songs, but there was some

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Speaker 4: how about this, how about this, how about this. Let

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Speaker 4: me just go back to Milwaukee. I'll post up in

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Speaker 4: some of my cats in Milwaukee. I'm gonna write some

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Speaker 2: Just like do me.

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Speaker 4: And when I got back to my Milwaukee I wrote

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Speaker 4: all these songs. From my perspective. I was trying to

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Speaker 4: me fall in love with R and B music, being

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Speaker 4: the Milwaukee demo, they were like, that's it. So I

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Speaker 4: think from that moment, I made the decision, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm only going to record music that gives me those

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Speaker 4: bumps of when I felt earth, when I heard Earth,

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Speaker 4: Wind and Fire for the first time, when I was

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Speaker 4: listening to Bobby Caldwell, when I hear Donnie Hathaway's voice,

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Speaker 4: use that. So that's why I call the record True

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Speaker 4: to Myself. And that's why every time I write that's

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Speaker 3: You never lose yourself or lose this.

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Speaker 4: That's why I called my first album True to Myself,

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Speaker 2: Stayed to form that whole time. Do you a great singer?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever find yourself just like at the crib

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Speaker 1: just making up shit that ain't gonna necessarily be a song?

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Speaker 2: Oh man?

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Speaker 1: That still ever made a dope ass song like washing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's it's just like that's part.

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Speaker 4: That's that's part of songwriting. It's like sometimes it's it's

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Speaker 4: annoying to some people because there's always music, there's always melodies,

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Speaker 4: like you know, especially if you're talking to somebody, you

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Speaker 2: The music will just start taking over and I'll be

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Speaker 4: But I'm like I'm like, oh, shoot, that's a dope

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Speaker 4: horn part right there, you know, So it don't.

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Speaker 2: The music never stops.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not a part of a song that you're

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Speaker 4: I got to remember that transition. I'm gonna put that

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Speaker 4: in something so that yeah, that's always going. Can somebody

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Speaker 4: I think so, But I don't think you can be

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Speaker 4: taught Like hmm, you can. There's there's a certain authentic

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Speaker 4: your pitch can be perfected like things like your cadence

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Speaker 2: Raw soul there somewhere. I mean, because I.

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Speaker 1: Always tell Mother'll lucky I can't sing. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: be the most singing where you ever sing?

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Speaker 4: Well, maybe you, I mean, can you is it that

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Speaker 4: because I'm sure you got some Bobby Womack song from

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna go more blues because they don't

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Speaker 2: Singing along with it and the soul come out right.

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Speaker 4: The pictures messed up though, the sound right, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I think that could be taught. I'm working on something then,

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Speaker 3: Is it uh that that you hip to now that

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Speaker 3: like be catching your ear? You're like, oh no, they

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Speaker 3: got a dope voice.

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Speaker 4: Ah, let's see who's who's whose voice?

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Speaker 2: Whose voice? Do? I I really like?

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Speaker 4: I like uh Man, I really love the Lucky Day,

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Speaker 4: I love the October London.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: There's this Icelandic singer which is weird, I know, like

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Speaker 4: like she's so dope and she's like this quirky looking

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Speaker 4: She she mixes a bunch of genres, but somewhere in

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Speaker 4: her icelandicness is like soul. It's like it's yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: it's yeah. It definitely ain't like straightforward R and B.

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Speaker 4: It's it's something else.

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Speaker 3: But it's something like that, like how do you just

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Speaker 4: You know you just perus, just be perusing through what's

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Speaker 4: or if I hear something, you know, we got technology now, shizam.

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Speaker 4: You be in a restaurant, you'd be like, oh shit,

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Speaker 4: what is that?

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Speaker 1: So you heard any of that Korean like they got

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Speaker 1: this Korean version of nineties like R and B.

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Speaker 2: T Yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: you something.

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Speaker 4: From my travels to like to South Korea and Japan,

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Speaker 4: they always take something.

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Speaker 2: And and and and hone in on it.

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Speaker 4: And what they did what I don't think they really

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Speaker 4: maybe they are, but what.

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Speaker 2: They're doing with like nineties R and B is so dope.

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Speaker 4: Some of these Korean and Japanese but a lot of

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Speaker 4: them are going back to some of these amazing producers

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Speaker 4: from the nineties, like they're going they getting Dark Child,

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Speaker 4: they getting Teddy Riley to come over there and do

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Speaker 4: some But they are not wrong.

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Speaker 2: And that ship sounds incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot of that stuff sounds InCred I

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Speaker 4: can't tell you none of the names of them, but

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Speaker 4: but but but sometiunds good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sonically it sounds crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So look, what's the day of the of the

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Speaker 1: Drop with the so.

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Speaker 4: So the we officially the song is out. It's called

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Speaker 4: something we Can Make Love to Tamar Braxton and myself.

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Speaker 4: I think, shoot, I think we're gonna come out with

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Speaker 4: the EP. We're coming out with the EP first in

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Speaker 4: another month and a half, and then after the EP

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Speaker 4: the top of the year, I'm releasing.

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Speaker 2: The whole album still duets because I wrote too many songs. Man.

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Speaker 1: So now let me ask you one more question. B

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Speaker 1: to your Awards twenty twenty four. Yeah, this is not

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Speaker 1: your first rodeo with B to your Wards. Yeah, give

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Speaker 1: me one of your favorite B to your Wards memory

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Speaker 1: before we get upack this.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to did not do like a I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to think, didn't I do a tribute? What did I did?

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Speaker 4: I did a couple of tributes that dang, you put

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Speaker 4: me on the spot like a scratch.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 4: I remember one time Shaka was performing. She she killed it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I remember another time Beyonce opened the show. That was crazy,

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Speaker 4: y'all remember that? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what year is that?

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Speaker 2: I think Monique came back and she redid the.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of the man, and that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of them for real. I need you to come on

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Speaker 2: the real show. Man, Come on, what's up? I need

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Speaker 2: you to come on the eighty Fast South Show. Come on,

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Speaker 2: what's up? Get him on eighty five? Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, what's me? What's idiom? I coming to Atlanta? Man,

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Speaker 4: I'm always in Atlanta. Come on, man, Let's make it

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Speaker 4: happen that man, because I got a million in one question,

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Speaker 4: I gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's make it happen. I bring my CD.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a CD player when you get that, man,

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Speaker 1: I got ship hit different on a CD play.

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Speaker 2: It does hit way different, it really does.

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Speaker 4: I was just like I said, I was just there

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Speaker 4: with Tricky and Laney, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you be in the city. That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Next time you down there, I gotta

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Speaker 2: catch you on R and B Mode. Get my my man,

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Speaker 2: my man, gonna get your contact, man, and then you

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Speaker 2: gotta come on the show. I'm coming through, all right, bet.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you all day.

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Speaker 1: We got we got plenty of duets to do, and

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Speaker 1: I told you I'm working on something.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you something over. Man, come on all

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Speaker 2: Right Man on BT

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Speaker 1: Awards twenty twenty four, none other you A leader named Green,

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Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, Southwhere out of eight