WEBVTT - Oof! A Lot of Baby Gear was Absolutely Ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>as always so much for tuning in. Let's hear it

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<v Speaker 2>for the shiny, beautiful baby boy of our podcast. Super

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<v Speaker 2>producer mister Max Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna be able to bounce back from that one.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't give you a retort. I'm just baby, you

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<v Speaker 3>should be able to bounce back.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just blushing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's blushing. I think it's cherubic downright. Cherubic is the word.

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<v Speaker 2>That's old brown. I'm Ben Bullen. We are super excited, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to talk about a category of invention that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be familiar to a lot of our ridiculous historians

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<v Speaker 2>in the crowd. Congratulations to all the new parents tuning in.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you get some sleep here and there. We understand

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<v Speaker 2>that's a struggle. But Noel, when when you were a

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<v Speaker 2>new parent with your child, you and your partner doubtlessly

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<v Speaker 2>had to do this whole rigmarole about getting advice on

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<v Speaker 2>raising a baby. Probably had to keep buying clothing or

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<v Speaker 2>getting hand me downs as the kid just kept kept growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to baby showers. Did you all have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby shower?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, we did, and I've been to maybe one.

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<v Speaker 4>But i'll tell you, Ben, I say this not in

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<v Speaker 4>any kind of like derogatory way, but that time in

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<v Speaker 4>my life was so stressful that I have largely like

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<v Speaker 4>men in black behind, erased it from my But one

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<v Speaker 4>thing I do remember, Ben distinctly, is the snot sucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Edge, I didn't know it was branded.

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<v Speaker 4>But as our wonderful research associate Wren pointed out, she

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<v Speaker 4>recently discovered some of these things in attending a baby

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<v Speaker 4>shower for her sister who recently had a little one,

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<v Speaker 4>and mentioned this idea of nasal congestion for the tykes. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the answer to that is the snot sucker, and she

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<v Speaker 4>spelled it out the capital snot capital sucker capital s

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<v Speaker 4>connected right up to snot. And I just always thought

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<v Speaker 4>that was a pro pejorative. But it is in fact

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<v Speaker 4>a rubber bulb that you stick into the baby's nose

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<v Speaker 4>and you squeeze it and it sucks the snot right

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<v Speaker 4>out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>She describes it as a slurpy straw for snot. Not

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<v Speaker 3>quite how I remember it. Yeah, some of them look

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<v Speaker 3>like bulbs.

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<v Speaker 2>They look like the top of a turkey baster.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one that I had.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe things have come a long way since my time

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<v Speaker 4>as a new parent. But she also mentions if your

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<v Speaker 4>baby is sassy and gassy, there's something for that too.

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<v Speaker 4>She should have been in baby product advertising. Colic is

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<v Speaker 4>no match for Windy the gas passer with an eye,

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<v Speaker 4>which may sound like a character from amany python film,

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<v Speaker 4>specifically fully Grail, but it is actually a sort of

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<v Speaker 4>an alien looking fart hose that's packaged up to look cutesy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty gross.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet, you know, a comfort to new parents because

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<v Speaker 4>manacious exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because it shows us the parents will do

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<v Speaker 2>anything to ensure that their newest addition to the family

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<v Speaker 2>is safe, healthy, is comfortable. And you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of misinformation out there. There's a lot of well

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<v Speaker 2>intentioned I'll say it, well intentioned hogwashed and it can

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<v Speaker 2>be challenging when you're a parent. You're already, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, you're already paying a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>for various unexpected expenses. So it can be stressful, as

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<v Speaker 2>we said, to have a bunch of people coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the woodwork and saying, I know this thing is

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to one hundred and fifty or more dollars, but

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<v Speaker 2>you absolutely must have.

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<v Speaker 3>It for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean marketers know that they have parents kind

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<v Speaker 4>of by the jimmies. As you say, Ben, they are

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<v Speaker 4>in fact a captive audience in terms of like, they

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<v Speaker 4>gotta have some of this stuff, whether it's their version

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<v Speaker 4>or another version, things like car seats. We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get into the history of that. But it occuraged to

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<v Speaker 4>Ren in going to her sister's baby shower and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>all of these new fangled products targeted parents who want

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<v Speaker 4>nothing but to do right by their new babies, that

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<v Speaker 4>this likely has been the case since the dawn of time.

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<v Speaker 3>However, parents of yesteryear.

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<v Speaker 4>Relied on a lot of anecdotal advice from generations past

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<v Speaker 4>than science to care for their little ones, which resulted

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<v Speaker 4>in some admittedly creative, possibly ridiculous remedies for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>taking care of little ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and Wren, we can't thank you enough for

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<v Speaker 2>this perspective and this excellent research, and we want to

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<v Speaker 2>represent you accurately to our fellow ridiculous historians. You like

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<v Speaker 2>some of us in the crowd. Tonight did end up

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<v Speaker 2>on the receiving end of some of these inventions, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>those human leashes that attached to a child's back. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is the beginning of the ridiculous history of baby gear.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to get to one real quick. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of an episode I did years ago for

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<v Speaker 2>my very first official podcast, kar Stuff. Not the most

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<v Speaker 2>creative name, but it was a fun show. We hope

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<v Speaker 2>you tune in. No'll produced a lot of it. We

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<v Speaker 2>all know about car seats for babies. Now they're necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>There are tons of variations or brands out there, But

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<v Speaker 2>during the early nineteen hundreds, before automobiles were ubiquitous, the

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<v Speaker 2>car itself was a luxury item for the rich, the

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<v Speaker 2>decayed aristocracy, you know, the one percenters of the Gilded Age.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until the Model T came out that the

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<v Speaker 2>automobile became increasingly mass produced and democratized.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and in doing so, I mean, we know that

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<v Speaker 4>safety was not exactly the prime selling point for some

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<v Speaker 4>of these early automobiles, and in order to make it

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<v Speaker 4>safer for children, they needed a little bit of modification.

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<v Speaker 4>So nineteen thirties did, of course bring it a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a hiccup known as the Great Depression to

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<v Speaker 4>your point, but nothing great about it, which means that

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the less fortunate folks in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States were more concerned with feeding their families than getting

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<v Speaker 4>the latest car. However, after World War Two, much like

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<v Speaker 4>the soft served craze that we talked about in the

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<v Speaker 4>last episode, the country was rescued from economic peril and

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<v Speaker 4>it gave folks some new options once they settled back

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<v Speaker 4>in after returning from the war. Families, mothers, fathers needed

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<v Speaker 4>larger vehicles to transport themselves and of course they're growing

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<v Speaker 4>heard of children and their groceries, of course, to and

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<v Speaker 4>from their home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because grocery stores were also modernizing at this point, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>the days of the counter service are falling, falling into obscurity.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we've got the supermarket, which is entirely designed

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<v Speaker 2>to make it easier and more tempting to buy more

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<v Speaker 2>and more stuff. So you need room in your car.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>And like we said, Ben, while safety wasn't exactly top

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<v Speaker 4>of mind for the design of the first model TS,

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<v Speaker 4>neither was its top of mind with the design of

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<v Speaker 4>the first car seats that were invented during the nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>thirties by.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bunny Bear Company. What is he man? Is he

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<v Speaker 3>a bunny or is he a bear? He needs to

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<v Speaker 3>make up his mind.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like something you might see in a sanatorium,

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of torture device. It was designed, however, for

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<v Speaker 4>the fun of the tyke, not for safety. It was

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<v Speaker 4>made from wood and fabric, and it was designed to

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<v Speaker 4>quote elevate children so they could see their surroundings during

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<v Speaker 4>car rides.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it also did something that we see time

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<v Speaker 2>and time again in children's toys. It allows you, the

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<v Speaker 2>tyke or the brood of the family, to emulate the

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<v Speaker 2>activities of adults, of your parents, of other grown people

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<v Speaker 2>you've encountered. That's why children's kitchen toys are so ubiquitous

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<v Speaker 2>even now. That's why this car seat would include stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like a dummy steering wheel and maybe some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pretend buttons you could push. It does look like the

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<v Speaker 2>first model, which came out in nineteen thirty three from

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy Bear. It looks like one of those bring your

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<v Speaker 2>own lawn chairs that you would have at a concert

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<v Speaker 2>or a picnic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but from hell right right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's canvas. It's got several straps to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>tike in and it has an elongated rack at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom ending with a wooden bar that is probably too

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<v Speaker 2>far for the average kid's feet to reach. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>based on this image that Wren gave us, but it

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<v Speaker 2>I think it most likely was meant to securate it grace.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, but it also seems like in the

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<v Speaker 4>event of a crash, it would just be I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Rend pointed this out actually in the name of the

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<v Speaker 4>section car Seats aka the Artist formerly known as Little

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<v Speaker 4>Baby death Trap. And this big old hunk of chunk

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<v Speaker 4>of wood would likely become a deadly projectile in.

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<v Speaker 2>The car, just like those steering wheels that were so

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<v Speaker 2>popular in the forties and fifties that had the torpedo

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<v Speaker 2>design pointing at the drivers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did yeah? Final destination? Anybody come on?

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<v Speaker 2>And in the nineteen forties a bunch of French guys

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<v Speaker 2>agreed with me and Noel here a company called ben

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<v Speaker 2>Hall fol decided that the current baby car seat models

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<v Speaker 2>that they were seeing were probably uncomfortable for kiddos. There

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<v Speaker 2>were also a pain in the keyster to install. They

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<v Speaker 2>made a new kind of baby car seat. It hooks

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<v Speaker 2>over the front passenger seat, the shotgun seat. Yep, babies

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<v Speaker 2>are still sitting in the front at this period of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you had a single strap across the waist.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is totally in opposition to modern safety standards

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<v Speaker 2>because as we know, you're not supposed to put a

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<v Speaker 2>baby car seat in the front of the car because

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<v Speaker 2>airbags could really harm a child. But people liked being

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<v Speaker 2>able to see their kid next to them again, riding

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun as they.

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<v Speaker 4>Drive, and they like where like a little baby Maggie's

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<v Speaker 4>got their own little hack Hawk with marsh.

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<v Speaker 2>It pops out. Yeah, and they also loved how easy

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<v Speaker 2>it was to install this. But if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of this French baby seat, what you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>is that the kid is strapped in at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the seat, but the seat go down far enough

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<v Speaker 2>to put them on the actual car seat. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out, kind of like an extreme mountaineer who straps

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to the side of a rock face to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, definitely, and it's equally treacherous just so, and we

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<v Speaker 4>know if we fast forward again, every company is aware

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<v Speaker 4>there's a huge market for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Parents will do anything they can for their children, so

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<v Speaker 2>car seat technology continues to innovate. Go to nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 2>we see the Jena car seat. I am doing the

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<v Speaker 2>forest gumbaccent, but it is spelled jee inay.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the only way to say it.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Frankly, this one would be the first model on

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<v Speaker 4>the market designed for backseat use, and it did have

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<v Speaker 4>safety in mind, so good on them. Moving on, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get into to the idea of you know, bassinets, cradles.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't really call them cradles as much anymore, play pins.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that is another category of baby gear, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>exactly like a crate for your baby. The first automatic cradles,

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<v Speaker 4>however colloquial all know as rockers, were created and patented

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<v Speaker 4>by a master mechanic and the serial tinkerer named John

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<v Speaker 4>Boulcolt in eighteen ninety seven. He used a clockwork mechanism

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<v Speaker 4>to automatically kind of swing the basinet to help lull

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<v Speaker 4>the baby to sleep. It was born out of a

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<v Speaker 4>request from his wife, who, being exhausted as a new mother,

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<v Speaker 4>dreamt of a machine that could rock her baby to

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<v Speaker 4>sleep so that she could focus on her household chores.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I think really according to Bulkan, Yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the official story. But I'm with Ready here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was probably more realistically. Boo called spouse saying,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I have to stay up and rock the

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<v Speaker 2>kid to sleep? Like, when is it your turn?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude? And so he's busy tinkering, right, He's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a serial tinkerer. He got to work and he

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<v Speaker 2>was literally investigating this in his garage over in Stevens Point, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>And this research he was doing while he was not

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<v Speaker 2>rocking the baby, by the way, led him to patent

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<v Speaker 2>the first automated cradle. You can see pictures of this online.

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<v Speaker 2>You would not have considered it automatic by twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six standards because you had to if your parent, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to hand crank the cradle to start the rocking motion.

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<v Speaker 2>You're powering up a spring and then the spring slowly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, expands over time, creating that rocking sensation. Still

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<v Speaker 2>is way better than having to sit there for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Just back for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And like a lot of these types of things.

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<v Speaker 4>His original company name was Mega Dry if descriptive. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the automatic cradle manufacturing company. It did see some

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<v Speaker 4>pretty early success, and so you figured that was a

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<v Speaker 4>good que two rebrand. There's something a little more pleasant

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<v Speaker 4>the Lullaby Furniture Corporation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So, by nineteen thirty, the company sold three additional products.

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<v Speaker 4>They had bassinets, a three and one high share slash rocker,

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<v Speaker 4>and a go kart for children that seems super safe,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as something called the Flivver Flyver.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, let's call it the fliver because of the CVS,

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<v Speaker 2>or we could call it the Fliur if we want

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<v Speaker 2>to shut out as the shitch. To be clear, that

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<v Speaker 2>go kart folks is not the go kart you're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of from Andretti's or something like that. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>something they could sit in.

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<v Speaker 3>That has wheels.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it so more like a power wheel minus the

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<v Speaker 4>power Yeah, yeah, just so.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the end of nineteen thirty, the Lullaby Furniture

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<v Speaker 2>Corporation is just mad cap with success. They're gross assets

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty are two hundred and seventeen thousand, two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twelve dollars and fourteen cents, which means it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for our inflation calculator.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh can we beep? Can we boop?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>We must we mustop with deep there.

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<v Speaker 2>We are, so a little bit north of two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy thousand dollars in nineteen thirty thanks to inflation,

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<v Speaker 2>is now in twenty twenty six four million, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty two one hundred thousand, ten dollars and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>three cents.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice one. Heck, yeah it is right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, still modest by today's standards, but they're on

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<v Speaker 4>the way up. As his success grew, bull Colt had

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<v Speaker 4>his share of competitors, of course, entering the market, including

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<v Speaker 4>an inventor named Luther P. Jones who came up with

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<v Speaker 4>this spended baby hammock situation which could self rock for

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<v Speaker 4>up to two hours after being wound. Sorry, I got

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<v Speaker 4>to jumped the gun on this one. This was the

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<v Speaker 4>clock mechanism. So like a wristwatch that you wind and

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<v Speaker 4>it has power reserve, you wind this up and then

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<v Speaker 4>it will it will essentially rock itself for up to

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<v Speaker 4>two hours with that stored energy. So, judging from the

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<v Speaker 4>illustrations that we have here, that ren provided it was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty high up and the mechanism on top, you probably

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<v Speaker 4>would have had to have like some kind of step

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<v Speaker 4>ladder at the very least, if not a full a

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<v Speaker 4>frame ladder to get to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also this is clearly for people who are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more well to do big time. This thing

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<v Speaker 2>is do you know what I mean? Like there you

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<v Speaker 2>can see the design clearly. It is definitely going to

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<v Speaker 2>dominate whatever room you put it in, just on an

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<v Speaker 2>interior decoration rate. So you probably need to afford your

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<v Speaker 2>own specific room in your domicile for this. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know at some point you'd have to have somebody

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<v Speaker 2>service the machine, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, clearly it's that level of machine and the ad

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<v Speaker 4>illustration it says at the bottom, don't waste time rocking

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<v Speaker 4>yo baby's cradle. Let theimoto rock it for you. And

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<v Speaker 4>when baby wakes he can watch the wheels go round.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and we know that bullcult soldiered on despite this

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<v Speaker 2>emerging competition. In nineteen thirty six, this guy buys an

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<v Speaker 2>island expressly for the purposes of logging hardwood. A few

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<v Speaker 2>years later, as to historians, you will remember, World War

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<v Speaker 2>Two began because Germany invaded Poland, which meant that the

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<v Speaker 2>Lullaby Corporation, like so many other Allied businesses, shifted to

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<v Speaker 2>the war effort, and so instead of building baby cradles,

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<v Speaker 2>now or flivvers. They ended up providing Allied countries the

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<v Speaker 2>raw materials that would later be used to build mosquito

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<v Speaker 2>bomber airplanes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they were nicknamed wooden wonders. These airplanes, which

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<v Speaker 4>I hadn't heard of before the to Havel the land

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<v Speaker 4>d H ninety eight mosquito bomber airplanes, to be precise,

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<v Speaker 4>could reach a top speed of four hundred miles per

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<v Speaker 4>hour while carrying around four thousand pounds worth of explosives.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yet, is this is gonna sound kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 2>when we're saying that these are, you know, wooden planes,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's where the technology was at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>We know a lot about what is it, the HH

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<v Speaker 4>Huntley or the HS Hunting. The wooden submarines was also

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<v Speaker 4>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, wood is a great way to start

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<v Speaker 2>building something. It's also real flammable. It's also really it's

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<v Speaker 2>not perfect, but it's a great way to start ed

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. So yeah, over time, the wars come and go.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lullaby Company has several name changes, ownership back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually Lullaby ends their business, but they don't do that

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen ninety five. So good on you, lullaby. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've got time for one more we really wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. This is crazy, Nola Max. This reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of an infamous viral photo from years and years

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<v Speaker 2>ago where the controversial legendary musician Michael Jackson held his

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<v Speaker 2>baby out a lot out of a wimbo style, Simba style,

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>lion king style to a bunch of reporters. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think he wanted it to be a wholesome moment. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at my child, look at what I had wrought. But

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<v Speaker 2>the reporters and the paparazzi immediately said, what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing? Hold it a child out the window?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, bet he clearly wanted it to get fresh air

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<v Speaker 3>required to renew and purify the baby's blood, because those

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<v Speaker 3>who sleep out of doors are stronger children. Man, he

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<v Speaker 3>must have been reading.

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<v Speaker 4>He must have been reading Luther Emmett Holtz eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 4>four book The Care and Feeding of Children, which made

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<v Speaker 4>these very claims. That is delightful. That name alone is

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<v Speaker 4>worth the price of admission. That is talking about them

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<v Speaker 4>like their marmots or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And doctor Holt is a qualified pediatrician.

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<v Speaker 3>Tay, I really loved kids, the care and feeding your children.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's also a it's still a practice in parts

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<v Speaker 2>of northern Europe to bundle a baby up and leave

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 2>them outdoors in the cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, so they will die of exposure because they were

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<v Speaker 4>born the wrong sex or something. For their Viking tribe,

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<v Speaker 4>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's to renew and purify the blood, just like dogholes.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, if you sleep outdoors, you're a stronger child.

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<v Speaker 4>It does occur to me, Ben, and it probably occurred

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<v Speaker 4>to the inventor Ernest J. Henry Pattent did the first

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 4>window crib in nineteen nineteen. That not only was this

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 4>maybe something that parents might glom onto because of the

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<v Speaker 4>Holt Book, but parents living in small apartments or tenement

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<v Speaker 4>buildings in New York City for example, or Chicago places

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<v Speaker 4>like that, you know, they might not have had much room,

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<v Speaker 4>so they take advantage of having like a little cage

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 4>that hangs out the window exactly. Because again these are practical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are not the super well to do people

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<v Speaker 2>who can dedicate an entire room in a nursery. Often

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 2>they can't dedicate an entire room to individual bedroom for

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.919
<v Speaker 2>their older kids. So a lot of these folks during

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<v Speaker 2>the second wave of the Industrial Revolution, leave their homes

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>in rural areas of the country to seek a job

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 2>opportunity in the big city. And this is compounded by

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of immigration at the time, mostly from Europe

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in US history, and those folks automatically

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>go to cities because typically they're going to have a

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>community that pre exists of people who are from their

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>home country. This means that real estate goes through the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>If you live in a major city at this time,

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<v Speaker 2>like your Chicago's or your New York's, you were probably

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 2>living in an apartment. You are probably, as you said,

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 2>no super super squeezed for any kind of space. You're

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<v Speaker 2>living in a tenement, right, you might share a bathroom

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>with an entire floor of people. I gotta say it.

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<v Speaker 2>The photo that Red has attached here of an actual

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>window crib. It looks like chicken wire. But the baby

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 2>looks happy, confused. The baby doesn't look angry.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it looks angry. It doesn't look looks

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<v Speaker 4>a little bewildered in the mall. It's actually kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a creepy photo, Ben, because the mother's facing away and

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.239
<v Speaker 4>the way the lighting is it almost looks like she

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<v Speaker 4>has no face or something like. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a It looks like an art piece, like a

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<v Speaker 4>disturbing dystopian art piece, because I keep saying the cage,

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 4>because that's what it looks like. It is essentially a

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<v Speaker 4>cage like enclosure hanging out the window god knows how

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 4>many stories up. And they looked at this as not

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 4>only a way of saving space, but potentially in the

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 4>cities of a way of providing their children with fresh air. However,

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 4>during the Industrial Revolution and the Second Wave, the air

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 4>weren't so fresh, right. Yeah, we have to remember the

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 4>EPA wouldn't be established the Environmental Protection Agency until nineteen seventy,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 4>and we don't know how long it's going to be

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 4>able to stick around the modern day. So a lot

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 4>of these folks, and these are all very well ent parents,

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these folks in the city. They want

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 4>fresh air for their kiddos, but they are not aware

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 4>of the invisible dangers in polluted city air. We're talking

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 4>about toxic byproducts made by the smelting of metal, chromium, arsenic, benzene, lead,

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 4>all the nasty stuff in a terrible cocktail. And when

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 4>they were purchasing these window cribs, which were relatively affordable

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 4>by design, they were actually putting their kids, especially like

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 4>the higher you get as well, they were putting their

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 4>kids in the front lines in the atmospheric trenches of

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 4>stuff that history and health studies have conclusively proven is very,

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 4>very bad for humans for sure. So it is in

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 4>fact they wonder that any of our grandparents survived long

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 4>enough to have our parents and allow us to you know,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 4>enjoy our own resh air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is wild.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 4>A lot of these inventions, as Bren points out, could

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 4>be categorized as dumb, bad, and even deadly. And there

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 4>are of course plenty more where that came from. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to talk about just a few more here at

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<v Speaker 4>the end and then save some for a future Tangents

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<v Speaker 4>and Trivia episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So the window caage, just so you know, folks,

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 2>mounted just like a window based air conditioning unit, still

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>very common in cities across the planet, so that's kind

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>of its legacy. We talked about how our buddy Johnny B.

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Buckolt was an inventor or what you called a serial tinker.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Ren.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about one of the other things he invented.

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<v Speaker 2>He made an automatic cow milker, which is very unpleasant

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>for the cows. I imagine it latches onto the cows

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>utters and it uses a lot of them. The spring

0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>mechanisms that he pioneered for the automatic cradle, you squeeze

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the utter and get the milk out. He called it

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the Western milky machine. It was super unpopular with cows

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<v Speaker 2>at being diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure, and that didn't really take off because farmers

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to freak their cows out lest they kicked

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 4>the farmers in the teeth. That pollution, though, Ben, we

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 4>were talking about in American cities was so bad from

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 4>the late eighteen hundreds through nineteen twenties that carbon emissions

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 4>actually coated birds in soot, changing the colors of their feathers.

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<v Speaker 4>And to this day, scientists observe birds to gauge the

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 4>severity of pollution and other environmental factors that could negatively

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 4>impact human health. Ben, we've talked about this on stuff

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 4>that I want you to know. Another way scientists to

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 4>use animals to test for environmental contaminants is at nuclear

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 4>super fun sites like at Savannah River site near where

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 4>we live here in Atlanta, Georgia, where Legacy nuclear waste

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 4>from the creation of nuclear warheads was stored and disposed of,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 4>contaminating the groundwater and buried in these open pits, and

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 4>so scientists there as part of I believe the Army

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 4>Corps of Engineers test wildlife on a regular basis with

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Geiger counters. They tag them and then find them and

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<v Speaker 4>then test them to make sure that the decontamination processes

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<v Speaker 4>are going well.

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<v Speaker 2>And further, folks, here's another look. This is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>example of how crazy the pollution was during the Industrial Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go over to England, you see that the

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<v Speaker 2>soot was so widespread it actually caused the population of

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<v Speaker 2>peppered moths to shift their colors. As a species, they

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<v Speaker 2>used to be pale and speckled, and because the air

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<v Speaker 2>in their natural environment got so dark and sooty, they

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<v Speaker 2>began to become dark black. For so it actually changed

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<v Speaker 2>the color of some animals. This is nuts, And you

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<v Speaker 2>also shouted out stuff they don't want you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a great thing for anybody who's interested in

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<v Speaker 2>some of the darker sides of pollution. In a previous

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<v Speaker 2>episode on Her sister show, we talk about the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of lead creating serial killers. So check out a book

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<v Speaker 2>called Murderland published twenty twenty five, wherein the author Caroline

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<v Speaker 2>Fraser talks about the pollution related to smelting and how

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been the cause of the Pacific Northwest

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<v Speaker 2>serial killer explosion during the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about this stuff that I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>know very recently. Yeah, and do.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out that episode, folks. We know it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a dark turn for a show about baby gear,

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<v Speaker 2>but we hope you enjoyed it well.

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<v Speaker 4>But Ben, this also kind of ties into the notion

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<v Speaker 4>that pollution from smelting could have led to the downfall

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<v Speaker 4>of the Roman Empire because of you know, environmental contaminants

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<v Speaker 4>that led to cognitive decline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good call.

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<v Speaker 2>And also check out our earlier Ridiculous History episode on

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<v Speaker 2>the fall of the Roman Empire as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>fall of the Ottoman Empire. And while you're on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>why not give us a nice little rating on your

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely please do.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find us on Apple Podcasts, where the reviews

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<v Speaker 4>really go a long way to helping people discover the show.

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<v Speaker 4>We're also on Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Ben,

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<v Speaker 4>this was a fun one, man, a little on the

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<v Speaker 4>shorter side, but absolutely delightful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, big, big thanks to our super producer Max the

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<v Speaker 2>Bouncing baby Boy Williams Bouncing Bleshing baby Boy Williams. Big

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Alex Williams who composed this track, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as Doctor Rachel Big Spinach Lance and aj Bahamas Jacobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks again to Wren for doing the research on this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Will look forward to hearing more from her in the

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<v Speaker 4>not too distant.

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<v Speaker 3>Future as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Christopher Hasiotis and Eaves Jeffco Thanks to them here in spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>and Ben, thanks to you man.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a fun one and.

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<v Speaker 2>A hearty goo goo gaga to all our young ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>historians tuning in.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you next time, folks.

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