1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. 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So, when we were in 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: London for a legendary London Run, which I'm sure you 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: probably heard about. Everybody's heard about. Twenty five hundred people 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: showed up. That's ever going to be in great first 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: London run. Yeah. So you know, we was out there 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: and we're doing a few different things and I think 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: it was dial right yep, yep. He was like, yo, 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: I got somebody that I think you should connect with 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: in the space who's you know, real big on social media, 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: big on YouTube, and we're trying to make the connection happen. 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: But wasn't able to make the connection happen. So then 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: I went to Paris for my birthday. 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell tell a real story. 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: That's a long start. 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Time I went to Paris and it was me troy At, 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: Doula and Danielle So Danielle en Troyde was doing dead 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: thing for dinner. So me and Doula, we was we 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: was by ourselves and another one of our friends, Suley. 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: I think it wasted. I think somebody SULEI. Yeah, he 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: was like, yo, I got somebody who's in Paris that 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: would be great for you to connect with if you 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: happen to be in Proud Like, yeah, I'm actually in 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: Paris for the night. So It was the most random 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: thing ever because I didn't know who I was actually meeting. Yeah, 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: so when we got there, it was Patricia and her 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: friend and and I'm like, yo, we was just posted 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: link up with you in London two days earlier. So 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: it was the most random, crazy thing ever. And that 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: was a Yeah, it was my birthday that night. Turned 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: it was my birthday night. So long story short. 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: She still remembers the time we left. 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: I was a legendary night in Paris. It was a 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: legendary night in Paris. More bottles. So we met and 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: we we spoke for like hours and I got a 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: chance to get to know her and familiar with her 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: platform and familiar with what she does. So she is 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: a dynamite in this space. She has one point two 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: million followers on Instagram, two point eight million followers on YouTube. 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: She is a brand ambassador, she's a financial literacy expert, 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: she's a fashionista, a variety of different things, entrepreneur, founder 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: of the break Social, which is a platform dedicated to 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: business finance, financial literacy. So fast forward to us coming 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: back to London on Halloween to perform at the prestigious 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: Royal Albert Hall, and we're putting together a lineup and 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, we got to have some people 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: from the UK on this lineup, and who better to 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: have than Patricia. So she will be joining us on 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Halloween at the Royal Albert Hall. And I felt that, 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: you know, since we're coming to London, it'll be dope 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: to actually do some content leading up to that with 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: some people that's in the space. Asked to if she'd 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: be interested in coming on Market Mondays, which is the 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: big show, and she she agreed to it. So this 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: is where we are now. Welcome, Welcome to Market Monday. 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: That was a long story. I had to be told it. Yes, yes, 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: So all right, so let's get into this. I want 76 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: to have a conversation about business, social media, investing, different 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: things that nature. And it's very rare that we get 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: to talk to somebody from the UK. I think this 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: is the first time on Market Monday that we've ever 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: spoken any e y L. We spoke to a few 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: people in the past, but Market Mondays. I think this 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: is the first series of episodes. But it's important that 83 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: the first time be the right time. Yeah, the right 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: person is here, so let's talk about this. Let's talk 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: about the business of influences and how you generate income 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: online because you have a lot of followers, you have 87 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: a large following. But you know, we always hear the 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: stories of people that have followers and they don't make 89 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: any money. They don't know how to figure it out. 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: They got millions of followers or TikTok millions of followers 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: on Instagram and they're struggling financially. But you've been able 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: to actually turn that into a business. So how have 93 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: you been able to turn social media influencer into a 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: business and how have you been able to generate income online? 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 6: I mean so I've been creating online for like ten 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: years now. So I didn't just start. I didn't start 98 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: as an influencer. There wasn't really a roadmap or like 99 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 6: a specific business model. But what I did know is 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 6: that there was something in it when I started, because 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 6: number one, I was able to build an audience and 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 6: I was able to grow slow and steady. I won't 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: say that I went to millions straight away. Ten years 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 6: in the game, and then I realized that more and 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 6: more brands were reaching out. But when I started, I 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 6: wasn't really that strategic about it because I was also 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 6: still working a job, so I actually worked in finance. 108 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 6: I worked in banking and like my degrees in accounting. 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 6: So because I had like quite a prestige job, I 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: wasn't not for focused on like the online thing as much, 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: but I could see that something was there, and more 112 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 6: and more brands would like reach out to me to 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 6: do work. And I think a lot of creators are 114 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 6: creating stuff either for free or for clout or not 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 6: necessarily like aligning it to what kind of brands or 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 6: companies they want to work with. 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 5: And in the beginning, I wasn't. 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 6: That strategic, so I was like doing little things here 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 6: and there, not really knowing what the budgets actually looked 120 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 6: like or knowing really what the potential was because there 121 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 6: was no no one was telling you anything when I started. 122 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 6: So eventually I think I was doing more and more. 123 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 6: And I think when I got more publicity and people 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 6: were more aware of me, and I could just see 125 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 6: that there were other people in the industries who seem 126 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 6: to be doing quite well, I was like, what's going 127 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 6: on here? So I found out from someone who actually 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 6: shared to me about basically how much money they were making, 129 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 6: and I was shocked because I was making like a 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 6: tenth of what that person was making, but we were 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 6: at the same level, and I think at that point 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 6: in time, I made the decision to kind of like, 133 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: I'm going to focus on this. I'm going to strategize, 134 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 6: I'm going to be very clear about my brand and 135 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: the brands that I'm aligned to, and then making sure 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 6: that I, you know, am working and getting paid what 137 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 6: my value was. So it's just been me creating content, 138 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 6: but very strategically to really kind of make sure that 139 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: I'm getting what I'm worth and just working with the 140 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: right brands that actually have the income to pay. So 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: some people might make content in say a category that 142 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 6: is let's say dog food, like your dogs are getting 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 6: a ton of content and they get loads of views. 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 6: But if brands that are aligned to dogs don't have 145 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 6: any budget, then you can have all the views in 146 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 6: the world, but you're not going to actually be able 147 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 6: to make any money. So I'm aligned to the beauty industry, 148 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 6: and the beauty industry specifically because they have resources and 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: they pay a lot for. 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 5: Creators who are in beauty. 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 6: Fashion does not pay as much, so I balance the 152 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 6: amount of fashion content I make. Again, I'm also in 153 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 6: the finance industry because it's something I'm really interested in, 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: I love and I'm you know, I have an accounting 155 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 6: degree and worked in finance for seven years. So then 156 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 6: now brands love someone like me who's able to talk 157 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 6: on these subject matters with conviction and knowledge, and so 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 6: then I'm also able to monetize with those brands who 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 6: also have big budgets as well. So that's a little 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: bit about how I've kind of worked through this to 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 6: make money. 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: That's a lot of games. 163 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 7: So in that strategizing, how did you come up with 164 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 7: the actual brands that you were going to target to say, 165 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 7: these are the ones that have the budget, I'm aligning 166 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 7: with them. Like was there a database or was like 167 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 7: some type of search that you did to find them? 168 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 7: Or you was like, I'm just going to trial in 169 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 7: air this thing. 170 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: Listen. 171 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 6: There was no there's no benchmark, there was no I 172 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 6: didn't know what an agency was an advertising agency. I 173 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: didn't know the difference between a PR agency. I didn't 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 6: know who was big who. 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: Was not big. 176 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 6: So I think again, it's this game of trial and error, 177 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: and also it's about knowing the names as well. So 178 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 6: now if say a company like Hillan Nolton come over. 179 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: I know that they manage P and G Brands. P 180 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 6: and G Brands are a billion dollar company, so I 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 6: know they're the ones I'm going to talk to. If 182 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: it's some small agency with some random person and some 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 6: new brand that doesn't have any budget, I won't necessarily 184 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: talk to them as much, depending on what the product is. 185 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 6: But it's taken me a while to just understand what 186 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 6: who's a mover and shaker in the industry, in the 187 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 6: marketing agencies, to really get those connections. But also you 188 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 6: may I've made assumptions that somebody or an email wasn't 189 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: that important at one point in time and actually securing 190 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 6: massive deals because I had no idea who that person was, 191 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 6: and they were actually someone very valuable. So it's still 192 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 6: important to kind of be open to everyone. 193 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: So if you have to start over, let's say in 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: twenty two twenty three, you had no followers, and I'm 195 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 4: not wishing that we're going to predic god you only 196 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: text from here. But if you have to start over 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three and how to grow your following 198 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: back to the millions, what are like the four or 199 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: five steps you would take to get there in this 200 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: new digital environment. 201 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: So I would focus on a target group that I 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 6: want to like talk to. Am I talking to young moms, 203 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: am I talking to older moms, am I talking to 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 6: black women. Am I talking to you know, men who 205 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: are really into boxing or boxing shoes. So I would 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 6: really niche down like the category of people that I'm 207 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 6: wanting to talk talk to, and I'd make them. 208 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 5: My go to group. 209 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 6: And then I would think about how to make content 210 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 6: that's super entertaining by bringing stuff that is current. I 211 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 6: can't even give an explanation of how I would do it, 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 6: but like if something was happening now, so something vibal happening, 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 6: or something's happening in the news, I would like make 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: sure I make content around that, but align it to 215 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 6: my group as well. So the people so these young 216 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: moms are interested in what's happening with the government, not 217 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: that they are, but how does that relate to them? 218 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 6: So I would kind of mesh my niche with what's 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 6: trending as well. 220 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: And I'm saying this earlier. 221 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: For me, I think the game really is about volume, 222 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 6: so literally being present on every single platform all the time, 223 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 6: like there is no there's no time to breathe, like 224 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 6: you if you want to start from zero, there's no 225 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 6: time to breathe for two years straight, like don't do 226 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 6: anything else but make content. 227 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: What you said is actually that's what we did as 228 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: far as the whole original mission statement for nal Lesia 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: was to blend pop culture with business. So we take 230 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: a traditional subject matter like business, but then we we 231 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: still do, but especially back then, we were using the 232 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: most trending popular things in our culture. So we would 233 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: talk about like even before on your Leisure, like breaking 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: down fifty cents vitamin water deal, like break it down 235 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: and making it, you know, talking about Beyonce like you 236 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: know when she talked about like you know, paying me 237 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: in equity and stuff like that. So like we would 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: take like different stuff George Foreman's grill, the deal structure 239 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: with that, so things that were popular and people were 240 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: already familiar with in pop culture, but then shifting it 241 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: and drilling it down to our our niche which was 242 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: your business, and dissecting the deal. So that's something that 243 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 3: we actually has done and we still do to this day. 244 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: Even with Monday is like even every Monday, there's some 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: some new pop culture topic that happens like kar Ye 246 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: Gon pretty much do something every single week. Kanye Kanye 247 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: going do something every single week. So that's that's a 248 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: very valuable gym that you just provided. Let me ask 249 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: you this audience hacking as well. 250 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 6: So it's like specifically hacking into the audience of people 251 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: looking for, say the Beyonce content, and then they find 252 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 6: you interesting. 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: That's the way, especially on YouTube because like if you 254 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: put it in a title, search engines or hashtags on Instagram, 255 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: you you know when people are searched searching something like 256 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: right now people searching Kanye Kanye West, White Lives Matter. 257 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: That's trending. It's a trending topic, right, So it's like, 258 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: all right, if you find a way to kind of 259 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: flip that and let's say that we did some content 260 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: around that, but it's based around the business of fashion 261 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: week and how he actually disrupted the whole fashion industry 262 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: by doing that, and how much money he made and 263 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: how much money other shows lost. But the general arcing 264 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: is the white Lives Matter. But we're not spending too 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: much time on that. But it's not like it's not 266 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: like complete clickbait because it is about that, but it's 267 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: about something else. So that's definitely a valuable strategy for 268 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: anybody that's creating content for sure. Let me ask you this. 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: You said something that was interesting. You said that the 270 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: beauty brands they pay a lot more than fashion brands, 271 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: so you focus more your energy on that. So what 272 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: are some of the best practices we're working with brands? Like, 273 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: like you said before, when you first started, you didn't know, 274 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: So what do you know now as you didn't know? 275 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: Like what you ask for? Do you ask for the budget? 276 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: Do you ask okay, what are my requirements? Do you 277 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: ask Okay, I'm going to do a social media post 278 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do one post or my ig story. 279 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: Like what are some things that now you're seasoned that 280 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: you know how to talk to corporate brands and kind 281 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: of know what to expect going into it. 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean okay, so stage one is one attracting them. 283 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 6: So how do you make yourself appealing to the brand? 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: So there's an element of using their product, talking about 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: their product, having really high visuals or really high engagement already. 286 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: That way, they're gonna find what you do and you 287 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 6: may even tag them with tag them in your content 288 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 6: before they ever reach out to you to do content. 289 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 6: So number one, you've attracted them, then now would email 290 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 6: you In the first instance is often a case of 291 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 6: we'd love to send you product, would have to meet 292 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 6: up for coffe. A lot of them want to meet 293 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 6: up in person just to get an idea of who 294 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 6: you are. So I think that's still a very important 295 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 6: thing to do, and the next phase is either working 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 6: directly with them yourself or working through management. People do 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: have their own you know, thoughts around that, but for me, 298 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: I'm at the place where I still work with brands 299 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 6: very directly and usually they will give me a brief. 300 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: I wouldn't do anything without a brief, because I want 301 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 6: to know what do you want? Do you want engagement, 302 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 6: do you want sales? Do you want awareness? Give me 303 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: an idea of what you want, what's the product, and 304 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 6: then off the back of that we will then negotiate. 305 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: But usually they will have what they want. They'll say 306 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 6: we want one stories, two tiktoks, or one YouTube video 307 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 6: and here's our budget. So I can either agree to 308 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 6: the budget like the budget, or I can say, you know, guys, 309 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 6: this is actually my rate card. Can you meet up 310 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 6: with my rate guard and then we will kind of 311 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 6: you know, negotiate and work out what I can do 312 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 6: with the deliverables, and I have to think about how 313 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: much time I'm going to invest into the work as 314 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: well as the value of my audience as well. 315 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: So you said something about putting content out, content out 316 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 7: all the time for two years, we can't blink. So 317 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: I wanted to talk about the multi platform strategy, right 318 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 7: because obviously you have one point two million Instagram files, 319 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 7: two point eight million YouTubers. So is the content being 320 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 7: specifically made for each platform or is it just like, 321 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 7: all right, I made the content for YouTube, I made 322 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: this content for Instagram. Maybe I made this content for TikTok. 323 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 7: And if that is the strategy, which is the best 324 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 7: platform that we should be living on. 325 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's a best platform. 326 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: And content is very hard, like I'm sure you guys know, 327 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 6: to be able to produce like at volume at scale 328 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 6: is a very difficult. So I love the idea of repurposing. 329 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: So say you have you know, you've got this one 330 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 6: piece of content, or someone films one piece once a week, 331 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: one YouTube video, and then they then chop it to 332 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: work on all the other platforms as well. There are 333 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: ways that you can upload one piece of content into 334 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 6: certain websites and they can produce a transcript for you. 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 6: They can provide the text version, and they can provide 336 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: a caption version as well. So I would make one 337 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 6: piece and then cut that one piece into like five 338 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 6: different pieces including texts, and then I would put that 339 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: on all the different platforms, and then if I have time, 340 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: I'll then make original pieces of content to go onto 341 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 6: other platforms as well. But I think YouTube is like 342 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 6: the number one spot, like first, like there's where you 343 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: can actually build depth of audience and people who genuinely 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 6: care about the brand long term. 345 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: Perfect, Well, what are two platforms that you think that 346 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: people are not posting on enough and if they did, 347 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: it will allow the brand to have like a lot 348 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: higher follow and interaction. 349 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 6: It really does vary because there was a time where 350 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 6: brands are all working on Snapchat, so they're like in brief, 351 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 6: I was getting Snapchat briefs. 352 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: And they were like, we'll pay you this. 353 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 6: They're not doing Snapchat briefs anymore, they said, we like, 354 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 6: Snapchat isn't a goal or a target for us anymore. 355 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: I remember getting that email, So I. 356 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 6: Could have chosen to stop uploading on Snapchat, but there 357 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: is still audiences and people on Snapchat, So it's all 358 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 6: about the balance, like do you want audience or do 359 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: you want brand attention? So I think most social media 360 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 6: managers for any company is kind of being aware of 361 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: all the platforms, but then internally they will have their 362 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: own directive of what's important to them. So fundamentally, again 363 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 6: beyond all platforms, get as many eyes on your content 364 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 6: as you can. But I know that's hard, so maybe 365 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 6: focus on just two. 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this credit Let's talk about some 367 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: finance stuff. Not a credit system is different the UK 368 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: and it is in America, So what are some of 369 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: the biggest mistakes Let's talk about the UK. So what 370 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: are some of the biggest mistakes in the UK that 371 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: people make that you see when it comes to credit? 372 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 6: I mean, is it that different. I don't know if 373 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 6: it's really that different from the US. 374 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: I think, great me if I'm wrong, But from my understanding, 375 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: like credit cards, like you have the same access to 376 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: credit cards that we do in America. 377 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, more or less, but I think there's a 378 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: little bit more protection. 379 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: So over protection, it's more protection in the UK. 380 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Yeah, there's more protection in the UK and 381 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: that young younger people. Often there's more regulation about who 382 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 6: can have credits advertised to them, So there is some 383 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 6: kind of security for people who are younger and impressionable, 384 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 6: who won't necessarily be able to get access to credit earlier. 385 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 6: And I think as well, they do a lot more 386 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 6: checks before they give people credit. But again, some times 387 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 6: the credit system can be quite predatory as well, and 388 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 6: they will kind of attract people who are less informed 389 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: about how to use credit. I think that problem is 390 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 6: like a global problem, though America might be the worst 391 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 6: for it. 392 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: Thanks, Yeah, sorry, I think I mean because even even 393 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: years ago, I remember when the UK was the first 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: one that really banded buying crypto on credit because you 395 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: used to be able to buy coinbase, you used to 396 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: be able to buy cryptocurrency on credit card, and I 397 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: remember the UK was like the first country to stop that, 398 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: and America was still allowing it for a long time, 399 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: but the UK had stopped it earlier. So I feel 400 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: like there's more safeguards and more you no regulation, protections. 401 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more regulation. It's around advertising, 402 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 6: around credit around I think fundamentally the country wants to 403 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 6: protect people from making financial. 404 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: Financially risky decisions. 405 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 6: Now, risk isn't always a bad thing, but again it's 406 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 6: a bad thing to people who are uninformed. So I think, yeah, 407 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 6: there's more regulation around that. When it comes to credit 408 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: and credit and crypto. I did not know you could 409 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 6: get crypto on credit. Yeah, I can see why that 410 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 6: would be bad. 411 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't do it. 412 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are some of your tips for credit? Just 413 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: in general? 414 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: I mean in general, it's one having credit. 415 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: So this is the mistake that I've made in the past, 416 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 6: and I've seen some people who are from more conservative backgrounds. 417 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 6: So actually, like lots of ourselves from you know, immigrant families, 418 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 6: and so our immigrant families often told us, don't get credit. 419 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 6: Credit is very bad. Don't borrow money, it's not your money. 420 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 6: So actually a lot of us lacked having any credit. 421 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: That was a big problem. So even for myself, I 422 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 6: think I had money, I had a job, I was consistent, 423 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 6: and I remember when I wanted to get my first mortgage, 424 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 6: I didn't have any credit. I had no credit history whatsoever. 425 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: So I think people actually building a credit history when 426 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 6: they're younger, it's really important. And to know how to 427 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: build good credit is something that a lot of people 428 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: need to focus on here and that not all credit 429 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: is necessarily bad, but you just need to be careful 430 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: with it. 431 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 432 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 7: So obviously you've built the follow when you were able 433 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 7: to monetize and align with brains. But one of the 434 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 7: things you said in our conversation is that you were 435 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 7: able to save, and so I wonder where that that 436 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 7: financial discipline came from. What are some of the strategies 437 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 7: that you used to save in budget? Because a lot 438 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 7: of people want to invest, but they don't have the 439 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 7: money to do it right. And sometimes you have to 440 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 7: figure out what am I going to do with my money? 441 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 7: Am I going to save? I'm an invested am I 442 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 7: going to spend it? And so how did you come 443 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 7: up with your strategy? 444 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: What was my strategy? 445 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 6: I mean, I've been very broke, Like I know what 446 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: it is to not have a lot, so I think 447 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 6: I'm naturally an extremely cautious person. And just because the 448 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: money is rolling in like now, like you just never 449 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 6: know what could happen next, which is a mindset I 450 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: also still try to like fight against but I also 451 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: think that's a good thing. I'm glad I had that 452 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 6: level of let me be careful with my money. And 453 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 6: I also had some tax issues as well, like when 454 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: I would when I first started my career and ended 455 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 6: up owing the government money, and I remember like realizing 456 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 6: that I had I didn't have enough savings to pay 457 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 6: the government this tax, this tax thing that I had 458 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 6: to pay them. And so after that, I was always like, 459 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 6: I'm always going to make sure I have money aside 460 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: to pay anything that comes up. So I think I 461 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: was just raised to kind of save. I've struggled enough 462 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: to know that you need to have some protection, and 463 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 6: then stuff happened that made me learn I need to 464 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: have money on the side. 465 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, how much of your gross revenue or gross income 466 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 4: are you putting aside? Because I think entrepreneurs need to 467 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: hear that part. And also can you tell us about 468 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: how you are actively like living below your means and 469 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: what that's important to you. 470 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 5: I mean, it's all relative. 471 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 6: I think I put most of my money aside, Like 472 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: I don't really spend that much money. I think that, right, 473 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 6: I use my corporation to spend, right, So everything is 474 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 6: a business expense besides my home and my mortgage and 475 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: my kids schooling. So I try and align all of 476 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 6: my spending to only things that my business needs and 477 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 6: like just some personal fun things here and there. 478 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 5: But it's really not a huge ratio based on. 479 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 6: How much I earn because my main desire for most 480 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: of my income is basically to invest it. Like I 481 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: just want to keep buying houses, so that's the thing 482 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: that I enjoy. 483 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 5: And I bought bags. 484 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 6: I bought premium bags in the past, you knows, and 485 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: all that jazz, and I'm like, this is fun, but 486 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 6: I'd rather have like something that's got bricks and waters. 487 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: Like yeah, where you can say and jazz like yeah, 488 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: that's appreciate that. 489 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 5: I mean, I've got all of that. 490 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 6: I've got, I've had the vibes, Like I don't know, 491 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 6: I think you get to a place where you're like 492 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 6: this is great, this is cute, but it's like still stuff, 493 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 6: Like it's still material stuff. So for me, like it 494 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 6: doesn't entice me as much as seeing other things grow. 495 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 6: I think that's just where my. 496 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: Head is at. 497 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 6: But again, I've always loved it's always important to like 498 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: enjoy yourself by certain things that you. 499 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 5: That give you, you know, that feeling. 500 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 6: But for me personally, it's not a prioritization because there's 501 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 6: still things and goals that I. 502 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: Have that I want to do. 503 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: So let's talk about the real estate. I know you 504 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: just bought up properly on auction. Okay, you talk about 505 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: that process and I kind of walk us through it 506 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: for anybody in the UK that might be interested in 507 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: kind of you know, taking that route. 508 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, So auctions are like fabulous. I love a good auction. 509 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 6: I bought a house previously on auction and that has 510 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 6: really grown gone up probably double in value. And then 511 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: the process is fundamentally going on to right move, which 512 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 6: is similar to you guys have Zilo, same thing. And 513 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 6: you will see that auction houses are are on site, 514 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 6: but you can't really such specifically auction houses. But what 515 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 6: I found is that most agents have kind of an 516 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 6: auction arm. So once you like quite start to learn 517 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: who these different auctioneers are, you'll know that one day 518 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 6: a month they have an auction and they put their 519 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 6: lots up probably a week before a week to two 520 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: weeks before that lot's going to happen. So you can 521 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 6: actually sign up to all of the different auction websites, 522 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 6: look at all of the different lots and then look 523 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 6: at what homes you may want to be able to buy. 524 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: The one thing I've noticed is that their list prices 525 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 6: are very fake. So they might list the house for 526 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: one hundred thousand pounds, like you're like, what you can 527 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 6: buy a two bedroom house for one hundred thousand pounds, 528 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 6: That house is going to go for two fifty minimum. 529 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 6: So I think that people should just be aware that 530 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: the bargains that they think they're going to get at 531 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 6: auction aren't necessarily always a bargain. So again, doing the 532 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 6: mass and the calculations beforehand is very important. 533 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you said about every time you get cash 534 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 7: you're looking to buy in new real estate, I wonder 535 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 7: what type of homes are you looking for? Is it 536 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 7: like a single family lad or is it two? 537 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: Things? Like what is your method when you're trying to 538 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: find any all? 539 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 6: So I look at my existing portfolio and I think 540 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: about what I do have and what I don't have. 541 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: So I have a four bedroom family house already in 542 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 6: one specific part of London, right, So I don't want 543 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 6: another house next door that's exactly the same because actually 544 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 6: it's too similar, like it's the same thing. So then 545 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: I then buy, I'll buy another two bedroom house, which 546 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 6: maybe is better for students that is in near a 547 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 6: university location, or I might purchase a home that's more 548 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: premium in the city that I want to target city 549 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 6: workers in, or I want to buy somewhere that's more 550 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 6: lower income so I can provide more affordable housing for 551 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 6: maybe people who are on government housing. 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Terms and conditions apply. Hiring 613 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 9: Indeed is all you need. 614 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: The capacity to go out and necessarily pitch myself. But 615 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 6: I think what's been valuable is that I've had a 616 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 6: lot of PR. So in terms of and not paid 617 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 6: for PR, my PR has been all organic in that 618 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: the features I've had are because people have seen my work, 619 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 6: and my work has spoken for like my value. However, 620 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 6: I think that pitching is a really. 621 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: Important thing to do. 622 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: If someone is really like you know, they're new and 623 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 6: nobody knows who they are. I think going out there, 624 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: introducing yourself, letting people know what you can do, is 625 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 6: a super important thing to do. There are some websites 626 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 6: that allow you to find certain people's contacts in PR, 627 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 6: the PR industry. I cannot, for the life of me 628 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: remember what that is, but again, people can look for 629 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 6: some of these places to find email addresses for PR. 630 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 6: And LinkedIn's a great place as well. 631 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: LinkedIn very important platform. So where's your family from originally? 632 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: Is it Nigeria? 633 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: Nigeria? 634 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so so the UK is interested. If I 635 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: could just talk about the dynamics of that for a 636 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: little bit with you. So in America, I think black 637 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: people make up like sixteen percent of the population, but 638 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: in the UK it's like two percent of the population. 639 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: But another but another thing about it about it that's 640 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: interesting is that in America, like we have a lot 641 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: of immigrants, like Troy's family, they're from Jamaica. But like 642 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: I think Ian and myself as well, like we African America, 643 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: different names, whoever you want to call it, but like 644 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: we've been here, so it's not necessarcessarily immigrants, Like we're 645 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: like part of the founding, actual foundation of America, Whereas 646 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: in the UK they don't have that right, Like every 647 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: black person that's there is an immigrant at most points. 648 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: So it's like the financial literacy is even harder because 649 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: they're not only at a disadvantage because they even a 650 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: smaller part of the population, but their first everybody's first 651 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: generation or second generation, like every single person is coming 652 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: from a country like Ghana or Nigeria or Jamaica. So 653 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: you have a lot of challenges. So talk about the 654 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: landscape for black people in the UK, because a lot 655 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: of people don't even know if there is a black 656 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: population in London or the UK it's just crazy because 657 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people are just not educated enough because 658 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: they don't travel. So it took what the landscape, the 659 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: challenges that you face. It why financial literacy is so 660 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: important for the black community in the UK. 661 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a. 662 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 6: Big, like a really big thing, and that yes, we 663 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 6: are very small population and immigrants who come over are 664 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: usually like the parents are cleaners, The parents are low 665 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 6: income jobs the majority of them. So some of them 666 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 6: come over as students and maybe they're super educated back home, 667 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 6: but they come here and. 668 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 5: They can literally only be a security guard. 669 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 6: Not that there's anything wrong with that, but they don't 670 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 6: necessarily have those jobs in really high positions. So I 671 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 6: think the key thing I've noticed with all the Africans 672 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: that have come over that I know personally first generation, 673 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 6: the thing that their parents pressurize them. 674 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 5: On is education. 675 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 6: Education, education, go to school, read your books, and that's 676 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 6: the only way to kind of kind of get out 677 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 6: of the concept of poverty. 678 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 5: So the pressure is very much on the younger. 679 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 6: Generation or you know, my generation, to be like to 680 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 6: be successful because the parents are relying on the children 681 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 6: to kind of do that. However, the parents have no assets, 682 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 6: they own, no homes, they own no land, and they 683 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 6: don't always understand the system. So that's one of the 684 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: biggest challenges is if you know how to operate in 685 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 6: the system, you can do well. You know how to 686 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 6: get a mortgage, you have a connect here, you have 687 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 6: a connect there. Someone sorts you out and gets your 688 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 6: kids a job, which is what happens with the you know, 689 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 6: the English people who are from here all the time. 690 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 6: But immigrants are literally starting from zero, but in a 691 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 6: good way. I think it means that when we are successful, 692 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 6: we're extremely successful. And we've just had to like force 693 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: that literacy and force that understanding and focus on our 694 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 6: education to really be successful. 695 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 5: But it isn't easy. I'm not going to lie. 696 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 6: It isn't easy for the immigrants here and for the 697 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 6: second generation, so people whose parents are born here, you 698 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 6: also usually notice. 699 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 5: Things being a little bit better for them. 700 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 6: So again I'm thinking third and fourth generations here are 701 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 6: going to be in a lot better situations, I would hope. 702 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, shout out to Brickston, Jamaicans out there. 703 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 5: They're out here. 704 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 705 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 7: So we ran into each other in l A and 706 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 7: it was like, randomly, we're an elevator. 707 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm like wait, what are you doing here? 708 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 7: And You're like, I just came from Fiji, and so 709 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 7: it got me to wonder. I'm like, what I mean 710 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 7: Fiji right. 711 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, this is just a stopover 712 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: on my way back to London. 713 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 7: But I was wondering, like because a lot of people 714 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: don't understand even that type of connection with brands. It's like, oh, wait, 715 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 7: you can actually use your following to actually benefit you 716 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 7: for traveling, and so can you talk about that and 717 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 7: how that can help you in your journeys? 718 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so there's there's different ways it works. 719 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 6: So number one, I've worked with tourism boards, so there 720 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 6: are countries that want people to come and visit the country. 721 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 6: So they are be like, they'll pay you to come 722 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 6: out there and take content of the country. So I 723 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 6: recently went to Abi Dabi. I've worked with, you know, 724 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: some Caribbean islands. I've worked with even Switzerland and we've 725 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 6: gone out there. So they literally want the world to 726 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 6: know about their country as a place to come to, 727 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 6: which is what used to happen to Dubai a lot. 728 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 6: Dubai used to pay a lot of people to come 729 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: to Dubai. 730 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 5: I was paid a lot to come to not buy 731 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 5: any man or anything like that. 732 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 6: No, the tourism board itself of the country was like, 733 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 6: please come and experience Dubai because we want the world 734 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 6: to know. And now the majority of the income from 735 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: Dubai actually comes from tourism. 736 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 5: And obviously you know oil and all that jazz. 737 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 6: And then there's the other side of Brands often want 738 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 6: to create experiences around their products or their launchers. So say, 739 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 6: for instance, I went to Fiji. That was a brand 740 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 6: who had something in association with World Ocean Day, and 741 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 6: some of their ingredients come from Fiji. So they say, everyone, 742 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 6: let's go to Fiji and have an immersive session about 743 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 6: the product. So usually they often bring people who are 744 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 6: fans of the brand, fans of the product, or at 745 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 6: least going to inform people about the product. So I'm 746 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 6: kind of there like a journalist. And also journalists for 747 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 6: many years have been living the good life. Like journalists 748 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 6: traditional media, they've been doing this. They stayed at the 749 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 6: finest hotels they've stayed at they've traveled the world on 750 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 6: the dime of other companies. But now actually online creators 751 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 6: are the new journalists because we are fundamentally bring the 752 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 6: message of the brand and the product out to our communities. 753 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 6: So that's how I travel the world. 754 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, you become a virtual postcard, right because it's like, 755 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 7: rather than again a brochure for a country, you can 756 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 7: go to social media and see ten thousand pictures of 757 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 7: the same place, and now it becomes super attractive. 758 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 2: So great strategy exactly. 759 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you haven't had to reach out for it. 760 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 4: But for a per person who wants to have brands 761 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 4: pay for their travel and to visit, what are the 762 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 4: best practices to be able to reach out and begin 763 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 4: to have those deals come in for them. 764 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 6: So I think number one is to kind of find 765 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 6: out who the travel say for travel specifically, you'd want 766 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 6: to reach out to travel pr agencies, So there's agencies 767 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 6: that are focused on tech or travel, or beauty or fashion. 768 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 6: So finding out who those travel pr agencies are, meeting up, 769 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 6: connecting with them, doing a media pack, showing what you've 770 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 6: done in the past and showing what you could create 771 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 6: for a brand and then having them keep you in 772 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 6: mind is super important. You can also reach out to 773 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 6: hotels as well, so a lot of hotels actually are 774 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 6: building say four seasons may build a new hotel in 775 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 6: the same shells that. 776 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 5: People aren't aware of. 777 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 6: So if you were to find out about the news 778 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 6: about that, you could reach out to the Four Seasons 779 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 6: say I'd love to do some publicity for you guys. 780 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 5: Here's what I can create. 781 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 6: Obviously, your email, their marketing or their PR team, show 782 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 6: them what you can do, and they may host you 783 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 6: for four nights to kind of create content for them 784 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 6: and market to the brand. And actually a lot of 785 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 6: these companies they already spend money on like a photographer 786 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 6: and a marketing team. They may have budget that they put, 787 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 6: you know, twenty grand aside to do that. But actually 788 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 6: you're like, no, I'll do it for you, but just 789 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 6: let me enjoy the experience. They probably won't have a 790 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 6: problem with that. 791 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I went to Sols Bahamas, I feel like 792 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: half the everyone that state there was like taking content. 793 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? They're like, oh, yeah, 794 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: I pay you to be here. I felt like the 795 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: only idiot tell me. 796 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 6: I'm like, my god, I try not to tell everyone 797 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 6: where when I'm at the hotel. I don't tell them 798 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 6: I'm there for free, because no, not everyone wants to 799 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 6: know that. 800 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: It's one of these things. Going back to the tourism thing, 801 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: and that's interesting that you said about Dubai because I 802 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 3: actually pitched this to a few African countries. I won't 803 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 3: say the names of the countries, but they didn't. They 804 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: didn't get it, and I'm like, my thing is like, 805 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 3: you should pay for earn your legion market Monday. You 806 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 3: should pay for us to come to your country because 807 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 3: it's is good pr it's tourism, and we do that anyway, 808 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 3: like when we go to Niger, we went to Nigeria, 809 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 3: we went to Egypt. We're gonna put content up anyway 810 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: because we're there. So now it's appealing and it gives 811 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: people a whole different view of the country and it 812 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 3: makes people want to go. That's why Dubai became so 813 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 3: popular because everybody want everybody who was posting pictures. The 814 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 3: one country that does understand that that's getting it is Ghana. 815 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 3: And that's why you see Ghana's economy thriving the way 816 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: it is is because you know, they've targeted specifically Black Americans, 817 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 3: so it's become a travel destination for Black Americans. They 818 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: did the year to return, They're doing, they're doing, they're 819 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: doing all of that, and it's a it's a strategic 820 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 3: PR targeting campaign for tourists on black tourism specifically, and 821 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 3: it makes sense. And I just I don't understand why 822 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 3: other countries haven't really adopted that, but I feel like 823 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: for the countries anybody that's listening that is that makes 824 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 3: tremendous sense to because this is a way that is 825 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: going to give your country good PR, this is a 826 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 3: way that's going to highlight your country, and this is 827 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 3: a way that's going to drive millions and billions of 828 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 3: dollars in tourism and business and investment to your country. 829 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 3: Because social media is the window of the world. 830 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: Bahamas, Caribbean Islands, Mexico, Australia, please call. 831 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: It. 832 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 6: There's a lot of Caribbean islands who are getting into 833 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 6: it now. There's a few that I've reached out, so 834 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 6: fingers crossed, Like I'm seeing a lot more happen in 835 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 6: the Caribbeans. 836 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 5: So and they got beautiful islands. 837 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: That can do a collab potentially. 838 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll trying to hook something up. 839 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: You gotta let us know, because honestly, I feel like 840 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: at this point shouldn't really be paying for anything. And 841 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: that's what I told I think, I told, I do 842 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: a lot of that, like going for for trying not 843 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: to pay for anything, Like if we go to eat, 844 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 3: if we go out to eat, we should sponsor, somebody 845 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: should sponsor the dinner. If we're going to be in 846 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 3: a club anyway, as you know what we that legendary NAT, 847 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 3: you might allay just put us on a flyer. We're 848 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 3: just promote the party. You know. 849 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 6: It's a balance though, it's a balance because once everything's free, 850 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 6: like it loses the bizaz because I even like I 851 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 6: go on trips that nobody knows about and I pay 852 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 6: for entirely because the pressure of always creating on the 853 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 6: trip is also long, like I actually want to enjoy 854 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 6: myself and that like I don't want to always be 855 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 6: on So it's always about like I go for those 856 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 6: trips that I see them as this is a work trip. 857 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 6: When I go to Switzerland and I'm working with the 858 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 6: hotel brand, that was a work trip. But then there's 859 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 6: other things that like this is my trip where I 860 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 6: don't necessarily need to commercialize that part of my life. 861 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,959 Speaker 3: My whole life is commercial souce everything. 862 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: Like everything, man. 863 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 7: Some things they can't see Particia can you talk about 864 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 7: that process of documenting it all, because I mean, obviously 865 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 7: you said sometimes as a videographer, but a lot of 866 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 7: times there is so you can talk about that, like 867 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 7: who's shooting the content, because like I said, when I 868 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 7: would look at your page, it's like I want to 869 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 7: go to these places, it just looks incredible. 870 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: You make it look incredible. So talk about the process 871 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: of document Yeah. 872 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 6: I mean, so I try to Number one, I have 873 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 6: a tripod, so I can always make content wherever I am, Like, 874 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 6: I will just put my tripod down and you know, 875 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 6: stand in the street if I need to. I have 876 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 6: no like, I'm never embarrassed because this is what I 877 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 6: do and I make good money doing it. 878 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 5: And then I'll have like either a photographer with. 879 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 6: Me or my assistant with me who is able to 880 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 6: capture content on the phone all the time. And yes, 881 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 6: I've got like professional cameras, I've got the five d 882 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 6: I've got the thousand dollars lenses, I've got all of that. 883 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 6: But often I don't need to use that as much 884 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 6: because actually people don't necessar certainly connect to it in 885 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 6: the same way I might do that actually more to 886 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 6: appeal to the brands or the companies to show them 887 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 6: I can do the professional stuff, but people. 888 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 5: Don't really connect with that. 889 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 6: And then certain shoots and stuff, maybe I hire a 890 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 6: production company, maybe the brand of company that I work with, 891 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 6: or the tourism company or whatever. 892 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 5: Maybe they bring their own photographer and stuff. 893 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 6: But I think the concept of just as long as 894 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 6: you've got your phone, you have the opportunity to create, 895 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 6: Like you don't need to wait for this team or 896 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 6: this person or this specific photographer, Like not really, I 897 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 6: just can create with my phone with me anytime. 898 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, I hope everybody out there just heard that. That's 899 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 7: a valuable lesson. Have you got your phone? 900 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 2: You can create? More context? 901 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 4: And I ask both of you, Patricia try and shot, 902 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 4: how many pieces of content are you creating per month? 903 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: Because everyone thinks everything's all fun, just traveling the world, 904 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 4: and it's like you guys aren't working, But can you 905 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 4: for it demonstrative purposes or context? How many pieces of 906 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 4: content are you guys, both creative for your brand per month? 907 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 4: The real number, the soul crushing number, how many. 908 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 3: I would say for us, So a variety of different things, 909 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 3: and of course we do early a leisure episodes every 910 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 3: single week. So that's why, like twenty different clips that 911 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 3: come from that market Monday's every single week, twenty different 912 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 3: clips that come from that. But then just organic cell 913 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: phone like if I'm out and I had Troy actually video. 914 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: He didn't want to do it, but that's not true. 915 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 3: I had him videotape me the other day, like because 916 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 3: like you said, yeah, everybody's a videographer. All you need 917 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 3: to do is hold the cell phone. Like I'll be 918 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 3: telling them like, like, yo, just hold this phone and 919 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: just take a video of me having a conversation with 920 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: Bobby Shurter. Yep, two hundred thousand views. It's not complicated. 921 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 3: We don't have to complicate this. So they do that 922 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 3: almost all the time everywhere that we go take pictures 923 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: stuff for story. So I would say probably upwards of 924 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 3: two three hundred, Yeah, a couple hundred, probably a couple hundred. 925 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: But definitely there's also a valuable lesson in that too. 926 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 7: And then he left out the part that I have 927 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 7: a back issue that's why I couldn't get out the car. 928 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 7: But like most times, most people are like y'all too 929 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 7: prideful to take that up. 930 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact. 931 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 7: So like there's no there's no pride in me saying like, yo, 932 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 7: let me take this video for you because I already know 933 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 7: if he sees a vision, let me record it, right, 934 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 7: because I know that it's going to benefit the brand. 935 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 7: It's not like yo, I'm too good for that, Like Yo, bro, 936 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 7: why do I gotta take your video? It's like nah, 937 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 7: I know, like that's what he loves to do. Like 938 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 7: if he can't record it himself, let me be here. 939 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 7: I'm here, what else is gonna be doing, Like I'm 940 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 7: gonna watch him record it, So like helping add value 941 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 7: in any way possible and putting like pride to the side, 942 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 7: like all right, this is gonna be something that's gonna 943 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 7: be potentially viral. 944 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna help build his brand. 945 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 7: So like a lot of times, like even some pictures 946 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 7: like I'll take It's not like yo, give me photo credit. 947 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 7: I'm like, nah, that's gonna help if he wants to 948 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 7: show his drip, like of course, let me make sure 949 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 7: that I take a dope ass picture. Like I've told 950 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 7: that to plenty of people, Like yeah, I love photography, 951 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 7: So like if I get to shoot it, if he 952 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 7: gets to be the product, let's do it. 953 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 3: The Drip report has been legendary. You know about trip Report, Patricia, 954 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 3: and you have become a fashion icon. How can you 955 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: become the fashion week? We did a fashion week show 956 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 3: in New York? 957 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 5: What did you what? 958 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 3: Oh? 959 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 5: In New York? 960 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 961 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 5: I didn't. 962 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 3: I was. 963 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 6: Next time next time, I'm there. Yeah, I'm there. 964 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: I'll what are you talking? I'll kidding me. 965 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 6: I don't know where I was. I'm gonna lie. I 966 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 6: was quite this season. For next time, I'll be there. 967 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 6: But in terms of like again, everything is content. I 968 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 6: would make content every day and I think about content 969 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 6: every day and at least I produced probably. 970 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 5: Least like thirty pieces a month. That's my number. 971 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 6: And I do this basically with myself and like my assistant. 972 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 2: There's no excuse. 973 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 4: iPhone promats in small cameras, like every time I see 974 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 4: your choice, like hand here, Like you have to create 975 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 4: for those of you who are watching the show. You know, 976 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: I wasn't always comfortable to be in front of the camera. 977 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 4: But if you don't show your face, how are you 978 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 4: gonna be able to make money and get clients on? 979 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 4: My dad was like, okay, you want to work with 980 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 4: the headshoes and not show your face, good luck, you 981 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 4: overcome your fears, get out more content. And I think 982 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 4: we can all say there's people that are maybe not 983 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 4: even that good, but they just put out more content 984 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 4: than everyone, and over the last five six years they've 985 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 4: been able to elevate. 986 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: So for everyone listening put in. 987 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 4: Chat the number of pieces of content you're going to 988 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 4: make your brand per month, I think you need to 989 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 4: do at least one hundred to get some kind of traction. 990 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 3: And I think people don't put out of much content 991 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: because they are they're self conscious. They think what other 992 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 3: people are going to think of them. They put it 993 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 3: out and it's not it doesn't necessarily work right away, 994 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: and they just retreat. But you just got to treat 995 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 3: it like baseball, like you know, just keep swinging, keep swinging, 996 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 3: keep swinging. Eventually you going to hit a whole run eventually. 997 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: But you can't worry about what somebody else is thinking, 998 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 3: worry about how you look, you can't worry about you know, 999 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: you're going to get better the way you talk. Everything 1000 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: improves over the cost of time. But I think that 1001 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 3: that stops a lot of people from pointing out content. 1002 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: They're so self conscious, and that stopped me for a 1003 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 3: variety of years, like I've been wanting to do what 1004 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 3: we do now in twenty fourteen, but I'm like, who's 1005 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: gonna gire financial literacy? 1006 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: Da? 1007 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 3: Da da da, And then finally when I'm like, you 1008 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 3: know what, it doesn't matter, let's just do it. And 1009 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 3: it worked. So I feel like, you know, that's something 1010 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 3: that a lot of people struggle with and you just 1011 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 3: have to just get out of your own way and 1012 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: do it, because ultimately, it's better to live with failure 1013 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 3: than to live with regret, because if it doesn't work out, 1014 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 3: it just doesn't work out. But if you never knew, 1015 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 3: if you never know what's gonna happen, you're always gonna 1016 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 3: like think about what if what if I did this? 1017 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 3: How would my life be different? How would my children's 1018 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: lives be different? And you know, living with regret is 1019 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: a very painful situation, Patricia, Before we wrap, let me 1020 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 3: let me ask you this royal alcohol me talking about 1021 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 3: the significance of financial literacy. Did you ever think that 1022 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 3: you know financial literacy and the way that we display it. 1023 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 3: That's why I say a performance because it is a performance, 1024 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: Like you know, we did invest Fest, we do we're 1025 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 3: doing Madison Square Garden. And our whole thing with financial 1026 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 3: literacy is to make it a vibe. So we add music, 1027 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 3: we add you know, it's a lot of performances, it's 1028 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 3: vibes and surprises. So it's really like, you know, a 1029 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 3: musical festival, but it's but it's financial literacy and it's 1030 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 3: not something that I like America I think has gotten 1031 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 3: used to it now because we've done a few things 1032 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 3: in America and they kind of know, But internationally I'm 1033 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 3: still not really sure if if they understand the vibe, 1034 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 3: you know, because especially I know the UK is a 1035 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: more conservative country than America. Talk about the wave and 1036 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: the excitement and the importance of on African American history, 1037 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: I mean on Black History Month, Black History Month for 1038 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 3: the UK, on Halloween. You know, financial literacy, Royal alcohol 1039 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 3: all black cast of performers talk about the significance of that. 1040 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 6: Well, firstly, the fact that you have the Royal Albert 1041 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 6: Hall right is like it's actually mind blowing, Like the 1042 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 6: Queen goes there, they Adele's been there, like that is 1043 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 6: like probably the most premium venue in the UK. So 1044 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 6: when you said that to me, I was like Royal 1045 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 6: our bo who like I was so shocked because literally 1046 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 6: the Royal as in its I think it's the Royals 1047 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 6: own this or something. 1048 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 5: I don't know, but it's a big thing. 1049 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 6: So the fact that you're able to kind of actually 1050 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 6: kind of create that momentum is really powerful. 1051 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 5: I think Brits, right, we can be a little bit stiff. 1052 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 5: We're a little bit like, who's that? Why are they 1053 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 5: like that? You can be a bit judgy. I'm not 1054 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 5: gonna lie. 1055 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 6: We're a bit there's a pride and there was that 1056 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 6: African pride coming in as well, so we can, you know, 1057 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 6: can have a certain stiffness about us. But I think 1058 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 6: that people one, they want this information, they need this information, 1059 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 6: and I think they would be so excited to take 1060 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 6: it from you guys who are actually making a move 1061 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 6: in the US, bringing that. 1062 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 5: Energy over, which is going to have a lot of flair. 1063 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 5: I assume it's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be 1064 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 5: going on, They're gonna be They're gonna be a bit stush, 1065 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 5: you know, do you know what it's to be. 1066 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 6: From the beginning, right, they don't have a but they're 1067 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 6: taking it in and I think that them seeing these 1068 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 6: examples is going to be super powerful where people can 1069 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 6: learn more about how to get together to like bring 1070 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 6: the community together, to make money and to build that 1071 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 6: literacy and build things together, which I'll be honest, in 1072 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 6: the black community in the UK is not something we 1073 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 6: do as much like we don't really create these black 1074 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 6: things together. 1075 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 5: Everyone is usually working in isolation. 1076 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 6: They've got their job, they've you know, they've become the 1077 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 6: lawyer or they've become the doctor. 1078 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 5: Like they've done that. 1079 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 6: But what if they unionize, What if they learned how 1080 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 6: to work together? What if they worked with their their 1081 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 6: African American counterparts to actually build something that actually has momentum. 1082 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 6: I think that there's power in numbers. So the fact 1083 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 6: that you guys are coming is like, it's sick, It's. 1084 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 2: Great, don't be legendary will be there as well. 1085 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 5: I'll be there as well. By the flag. 1086 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 3: Yes, go to the link and the description is bio 1087 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 3: get your ticket, go to dot com. Hit to invest 1088 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 3: Fest euro tab Go to invest Fest dot com, invest 1089 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 3: Fest euro dot com. Get your tickets. It's gonna be 1090 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 3: not even just a night to remember. We can till remember. 1091 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 3: We got a Halloween party shop Terrence J. You got 1092 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 3: a VIP experience on Sunday, So it's gonna be so 1093 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 3: so much vibes and as you said, oh, bring your 1094 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 3: umbrellas because it's a it's a hundred. It's usually rainy 1095 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 3: in London, but it's one hundred percent chance that Asnami 1096 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 3: of drip. 1097 00:54:54,560 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 2: No questions, it's even a question, it's a hundred as 1098 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: well played. 1099 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: We'll be on full display for the whole entire week. 1100 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 2: Like they've never seen. 1101 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, like even it's a fitting way to end Black 1102 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 7: History Month. 1103 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 3: Yes in the UK, Yes, yes, I really thought you. 1104 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 6: Were talking about actual rain because people should actually did too. 1105 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 3: It's rain. 1106 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 7: You have to bring your London falls out, bring the 1107 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 7: umbrellas out, in the ring boots. 1108 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 2: But that's when my brainstorm. 1109 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 3: But the drip, the drip will come out regardless because 1110 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 3: London is a fashion town too. 1111 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, their casual stuff is like. 1112 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 3: Amazing. 1113 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 4: I was walking around like this is your gym gear, 1114 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 4: like I thought they were going out listen for everyone 1115 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: in America bring your best like I was going through. 1116 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 4: I was an airport yesterday and the lounge went through 1117 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of look books picked out fourteen fifteen hours. 1118 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: Theorious. It is no joke. We're not gonna no joke, 1119 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 2: and we're not We're not playing those games. We can't. 1120 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 2: We're coming to represent. 1121 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: And shout to our London CRUI shout to dial you, 1122 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 3: Shot to tape London Shot. We've developed a real strong 1123 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 3: relationship with a lot of people in London, and I'm 1124 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 3: excited for the American because there's a lot of Americans 1125 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 3: that's coming out there too. I'm assigned to a lot 1126 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: of them. This is their first time coming to the UK, 1127 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 3: coming to London, so it's dope that they're coming like 1128 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 3: for us, and it's it's become a tourist. 1129 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 2: London is such a beautiful city. Movies don't do it justice. 1130 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 4: I was in awe of like the architecture, like you 1131 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 4: can see where Beverly Hills got the inspiration to like 1132 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 4: design the city like that. You guys are gonna have 1133 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 4: a great time, but I'm telling you bring your best. 1134 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 7: It has a nice mixture of like it looks historic 1135 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 7: but it has its modern pieces. 1136 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: And so yeah, that was my first time. 1137 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 4: Going and the service was amazing, Like I had those 1138 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 4: and I was about to throw it away. Girls the 1139 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 4: hotels like let me take this reverence from you. 1140 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that? 1141 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 5: Very polite? 1142 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 3: Don't forget about they don't forget about we said that record. 1143 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 3: We set a record. Lobby boys went out seven nights 1144 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 3: in a row. 1145 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 4: Y'all went out seven I went out for it one 1146 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 4: day to help Troy in the morning. 1147 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 3: The night life and oh, if you go to Legend, 1148 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 3: I highly suggest that you take a train to Paris. 1149 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 3: Also got to do it. Two hour train ride to Paris. 1150 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 3: Paris is another another world class city. Dope, dope dope. 1151 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 7: And that's even a dope experience just getting on the 1152 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 7: train and going to a different country. Fly fly fly, 1153 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 7: sleep on the train. Don't worry about that. Go out 1154 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 7: at night, sleep on the train, and then you can 1155 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 7: party all day. 1156 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 3: Patricia, before we leave, can you can you say? Can 1157 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 3: you say earn your leisure? 1158 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 5: Earn your leisure is what I would say. 1159 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be like the Mayback music drop, like 1160 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 3: I'd love accent. I love the earn your leisure and 1161 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 3: your lessure and the. 1162 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 6: Leisure, but leisure just doesn't feel like said. 1163 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we speak we speak broken English in 1164 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 3: America because you know, with the whole history of America 1165 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: being it's actually a British colony originally, but I learned 1166 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 3: a few different things, like even in Canada where they 1167 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 3: speak what they call the Queen's English. So they say, 1168 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 3: we say, uh, like we'll say, I'm trying to think 1169 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 3: of a word produce. They say a produce like and 1170 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 3: everything like that's like pro like produce instead of like produce, 1171 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 3: Like know what I'm saying. Like, So everything that they 1172 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 3: that they say is like a little tweak on it. 1173 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 3: So leisure instead of leisure. But we take the easy 1174 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 3: because the last stuff that we say doesn't really make 1175 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 3: any sense phonetically that. 1176 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of words like that. 1177 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the American waynest. 1178 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: Shout the scholar too, shout to scholar UK. Yes she's 1179 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 2: been so. 1180 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 3: Once again, Patricia, thank you, appreciate you. Uh everybody in 1181 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 3: the UK, get your tickets invest FST London coming Halloween weekend, 1182 00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 3: Uh a weekend to remember for sure and we will happy. 1183 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 9: You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday? 1184 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 9: How can you find amazing candidates fast? 1185 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 3: Easy? 1186 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 9: Just use indeed stop struggling to get your job posts 1187 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 9: seen on other job sites with indeed sponsored jobs. 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