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It's presented by our sponsor, Interactive Brokers. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: We begin with the latest developments in the war in 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: the Middle East. The Pentagon says the US IS carried 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: out an airstrike on a weapons warehouse in eastern Syria. 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says the self defense strike was 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: in retaliation for attacks on American forces in Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Israel says some fifty thousand more Palestinians have fled to 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: southern Gaza as Israel's army pushes deeper in to Hamas 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: strongholds in the north of the territory. All this as, 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says, both Israel and 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: the Palestinians need new leadership. 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: So I think you have to create the environment in 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: which there is a chance to revitalize the peace process 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: and a potential for a two state solution. Hamas is 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: not interested in a two state solution. They are dedicated 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: to the destruction of Israel. That is in their charter. 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: If you've been watching lots of different outlets over the 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: last month, that is what the leaders of Hamas say, 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: you know they want to destroy Israel. 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton added that while Israel's 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: unlikely to agree to a ceasefire that would benefit Hamas, 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: it probably will accept pauses to allow aid to reach 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: civilians in Gaza. Clinton made the comments in an interview 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg's editor in chief John Micklethwaite at the Bloomberg 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: New Economy Forum in Singapore. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Well Nathan. The war in the Middle East was a 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: major topic at last night's Republican presidential debate in Miami. 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: The five candidates on the NBC stage were united in 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: support of Israel, including Florida Governor Ronda Santis. 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: I would be telling BB finish the job once and 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: for all with these butchers. Come on, they're. 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: Proris, their massacring innocent people. 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: But there were devides over a to Ukraine and how 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: to approach China. Of ak Ramaswami and Nikki Haley had 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: a sharp exchange over banning TikTok in the last debate. 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: She made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: her own daughter was actually using the app for a 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: long time. So you might want to take care of 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: your family first. 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 5: Read my appreciation daughter man. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley and the other candidates also went after front 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: runner Donald Trump for skipping the debate. Jeanie she and 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: Zano is a politics contributor for Bloomberg. 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: She said he was a good president for the time, 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 6: but he is not the right president for now. And 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 6: then she pointed to the fact that he created eight 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 6: trillion dollars in debt, he's wrong on Ukraine now, and 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 6: the fact that we can't live in the past. 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Genie she Andzano notes the former president held a rally 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: ten miles away rather than appearing on the debate stage. 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Nathan House Republicans have issued subpoenas to members of 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: President Biden's family. The move to subpoena the president's son 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Hunter and brother James comes as Republicans look to gain 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: ground in their nearly year long investigation. So far, they 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: have failed to uncover evidence directly implicating the President in 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: any wrongdoing. 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Now to the latest developments caring in the New York 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Front trial of Donald Trump, his daughter Ivanka's day on 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: the witness stand was filled with denials of any knowledge 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: of her family's net worth calculations. Sloomberg's Ed Baxter has 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: the story. 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 7: She says she didn't know that her dad was claiming 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 7: and that worth of more than four billion dollars as 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 7: she tried to get a loan for the Durreal Golf 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 7: Club in Florida. She flatly says she's not involved in 78 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 7: his personal financial statements. Attorney General Letitia James says, not true. 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 8: Ivanka Trump secured negotiated loans to obtain favorable terms based 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 8: on fraudulent statements of financial. 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 7: Condition, and she says the Trumps cannot hide from the truth. 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 7: The Attorney General has wrested Ad Baxter. Bloomberg Radio all. 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Right ed, thanks well. From New York to Hollywood. The actors' 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: union has reached a deal with studios to end its strike. 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Can we get the latest from Bloomberg's Doun Prisner. 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: The vote by the union's Theatrical Committee was unanimous. Common 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: ground was found on issues ranging from the use of 88 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: artificial intelligence to payment from streaming services, and now, after 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: four months, the strike by some one hundred and sixty 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: thousand actors is over. The previously striking screenwriters have been 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: back on the job for more than a month, so 92 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: now production of scripted TV shows and movies can resume. 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: And like the writers, the Actors' Union benefited from direct 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: involvement in the talks by some of the most powerful 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: people in Hollywood in New York. I'm Doug Prisner, Bloomberg Radio. 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: All right, Doug, thanks now. Some of those most powerful 97 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: people included Bob Eiger, and the settlement comes the same 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: day Eigers Walt Disney Company posted fourth quarter profit that 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: beat analyst estimates. Disney also says it'll cut an additional 100 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: two billion dollars in expenses. Bob Iger says his company 101 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: will also launch a beta trial bundle of Disney Plus 102 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 4: and Hulu next month. 103 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 9: We expected Hulu on Disney Plus will result in increased engagement, 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 9: greater advertising opportunities, lower churn, and reduced customer acquisition cost, 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 9: thereby increasing our overall margins. 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: Man Right now, shares of Bob Bigers Walt Disney Company 107 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: are higher by four percent in early trading. 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Well Nathan, Another CEO, is making news this morning. Bank 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: of America's Brian moynihan said his company has a succession 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: plan in place and that nothing is left a chance 111 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: in deciding on his eventual replacement. Moynahan, who made the 112 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: remarks at the Reuters Next conference, took the helm in 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty ten in the wake of the global financial crisis. 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: And there's another bank in the spotlight this morning, Karen. 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: That would be Morgan Stanley. Its wealth management business is 116 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: under Federal Reserve scrutiny, sources say the New York based 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: banks top regulators pressing whether the firm is taking adequate 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: measures to prevent potential money laundering by wealthy clients outside 119 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: the US. Representatives for the FED and Morgan Stanley declined 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: to comment. 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: And it's time now for a look at some of 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the other stories making news around the world. For that, 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker, John Good morning. 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 10: Hey, Good morning Karen. Former President Donald Trump did skip 125 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 10: the third uop to at in Miami, instead holding a 126 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 10: campaign rally about ten miles away in Heyaliah twenty twenty. 127 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 11: Four is our final battle. 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 12: Stand with me in the fight. 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: We will finish the job that we started so brilliantly 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: seven years ago. 131 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 11: We never had a country like we had just three 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 11: years ago. 133 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 10: Meantime, at judge in Michigan expected to hear arguments today 134 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 10: whether the Secretary of State there has the authority to 135 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 10: keep Donald Trump's name off state ballots for president. Various 136 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 10: groups have filed similar lawsuits in other states, portraying Trump 137 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 10: as the insider of the January sixth Capitol riot. They 138 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 10: point to part of the Constitution the prohibits a person 139 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 10: from running for federal office if they've engaged in insurrection 140 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 10: or rebellion. Industry regulators say power grades that supply more 141 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 10: than half of the US population may run short of 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 10: electricity during an extended cold snap or severe storm over 143 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 10: the coming winter. That story in this report from Bloomberg's 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 10: Charlie Pellett. 145 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: The North American Electric Reliability Corps as regional system operators 146 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: in a vast swath of the country, stretching from Texas 147 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: to New England, are at risk of insufficient electricity supplies 148 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: during peak winter conditions. The report came in a winter 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: reliability assessment which also showed Quebec and Saskatchewan facing the 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: threat of power shortfalls. The outlook is even more dire 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: than last year's report, which set a quarter of Americans 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: were at risk of cold weather power emergencies in New 153 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: York Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. 154 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 10: The population of the US climbed to about three hundred 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 10: seventy million and twenty eighty before reversing course starting to 156 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 10: fall before the turn of the century. This according to 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 10: News Census Bureau projections and the bureau's most likely scenario, 158 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 10: the number of people sixty five or older, we'll overtake 159 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 10: the number under eighteen in just six years. Add A 160 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 10: nineteen thirty two painting by Pablo Picasso, fem A la Montre, 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 10: sold for one hundred and thirty nine point three million 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 10: dollars last night at Sotheby's in New York. At a stroke, 163 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 10: it becomes the second most expensive piece by the artist 164 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 10: to santl at auction. Global News twenty four hours a 165 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 10: day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 10: I'm John Tucker and this is Bloomberg Karen. 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you well. We do bring you 168 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: news throughout the day right here on Bloomberg Radio. 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You can listen and subscribe 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg News Now on the Bloomberg Business app, Bloomberg 174 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: dut Plus, Apples, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 175 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Four off time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update with 176 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: John Stashauer, John Karen. 177 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 12: The NBA took Tuesday off to let everyone vote back 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 12: with a busy night on Wednesday, including showdowns in the 179 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 12: East and West. Both games won by home teams by 180 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 12: three points. In Philadelphia, the Sixers made it six wins 181 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 12: in a row. They beat the Celtics one oh six 182 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 12: to one oh three. They lost to Boston to the 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 12: second round of last year's playoffs, when they blew a 184 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 12: three to two series lead. The Sixers had the best 185 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 12: record in the East and the Denver Nuggets, defending NBA champs, 186 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 12: had the best record in the league eight and one. 187 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 12: They beat Golden State one o eight to one oh five. 188 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 12: N Koleokus scored thirty five points. Klay Thompson couldn't get 189 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 12: a shot off at the buzzer as he tried to 190 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 12: tie the game. Victor Wembin Yama's first game in New 191 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 12: York it didn't go well. He scored only fourteen points, 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 12: not only four of fourteen. The Spurs lost to the 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 12: Knicks one twenty six to one oh five. The Lakers 194 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 12: got blown out at U and lost by thirty four 195 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 12: Lakers or zero to five on the road. Shay Gilgess 196 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 12: Alexander report in forty three points for Oklahoma City in 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 12: a win over Cleveland. Capitals lost in overtime Florida one 198 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 12: four to three. Ron Washington, a seventy one year old 199 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 12: baseball lifer, named the new manager of the Los Angeles Angels. 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 12: He managed the Texas Rangers for eight years, won a 201 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 12: couple of tenants there, but he has not managed in 202 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 12: the big leagues since twenty fourteen. Not a great NFL 203 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 12: game tonight Chicago and Carolina. The Bears will again be 204 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 12: quarterbacked by the undrafted rookie Tyson Badge in third straight 205 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 12: week as Justin Field's not ready to return from the 206 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 12: injured thump. John stash Ellert Bloomberg Sports. 207 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 11: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 208 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 11: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam the Bloomberg 209 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 11: Business Appen Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. We want to take you 211 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: to Singapore now and the Bloomberg New Economy Forum, where 212 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: world leaders have been weighing in on the economy and 213 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: geopolitical risks, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She 214 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: sat down with Bloomberg News Editor in chief John Micklethwaite 215 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: to discuss Israel, Ukraine, China, and the future of the 216 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: United States. They began with a discussion on President Biden's 217 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: upcoming meeting with Chinese President She Jinping. 218 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: Part of the reason it was, you know, somewhat more 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: positive when I was there and we had a very 220 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: regular set of meetings is because Hu Jintao was a 221 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: Chinese leader who decided he would not stay for life, 222 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: he would fulfill his term, he would follow the guidance 223 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: of the Chinese Communist Party, there would be a transition 224 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: a new group of leaders. You know, some holdovers, but 225 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: you know, other new faces would be in power, and 226 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: so there could be a constant renewing of both the 227 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: Chinese government and through that the American relationship. Once she 228 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: Jin Ping decided to stay in office for life, that 229 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: creates a lot of you know, challenges within their own system, 230 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: and I think we're seeing some of that. And so 231 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: part of what I hope will come out of this 232 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: meeting is an attitude by President Shei that you know, 233 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: he wants to get back to some kind of regular order, 234 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: that he sees it in China's interests to really dig 235 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: in with the President Biden, develop a platform for discussions 236 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: for problem solving, really sending that signal. I think he 237 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: will find a receptive partner with President Biden if that's available. 238 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 13: Israel and Hamas, I think you are in favor of 239 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 13: a humanitarian pause or pauses, but you're against the SIESFA 240 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 13: which many people in this region asking for. You know, 241 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 13: the numbers of dead arising rapidly ten thousand according to 242 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 13: Hamas Italy, but you still got like eighty nine dead 243 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 13: at the UN which is a gigantic number for United Nations, 244 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 13: the Red Crescent and so on. Can you perhaps explain 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 13: why you don't want to cease far? 246 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: There is a difference between a ceasefire which would in 247 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: effect freeze the situation in Hamas's favor. I negotiated a 248 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in November of twenty twelve, 249 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: and at that point both parties did not want to 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: go any further. The breaching of a pre existing ceasefire 251 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: by Hamas with rockets being sent into Israel had not 252 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: caused a lot of damage, and there also had not 253 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: been the development of the infrastructure of terror that Hamas 254 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: has built in Gaza. I don't know any nation represented 255 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: at the New Economy Forum faced with the kind of 256 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: assault that Israel was faced with by Hamas that would 257 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: not be number one defending itself and number two trying 258 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: to prevent it from happening again, because with every other 259 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: cease fire it did happen again until finally we got 260 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: to the breach of a ceasefire which was in existence 261 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: on October seventh with the terrible attack by Hamas. So 262 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: a ceasefire, if it were possible which frankly, I don't 263 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: think is possible. I don't think you know, Israel is 264 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: interested in a ceasefire at this point, but they are 265 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: perhaps willing to have what we do call humanitarian pauses 266 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: for the purpose of both getting aid in to try 267 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: to assist the civilians in Gaza, but also getting the 268 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: more than two hundred and forty hostages out. You know, 269 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: these hostages are not just Israeli. One of the biggest 270 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: groups of hostages are workers from Thailand who are working 271 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: on farms in Israel. So there is a global dimension 272 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: to the hostages that a pause could perhaps inspire some 273 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: willingness on the part of Hamas to let the hostages go. 274 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: But a ceasefire that would freeze the situation at this 275 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: point is not something that is going to, you know, 276 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: really undermine Hamas's capacity, especially with two hundred miles of 277 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: tunnels that they have constructed over the last decade, to 278 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: launch yet another attack on Israel, and that would be intolerable, 279 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: and I think it would be intolerable for you know, 280 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: any nation represented at the forum. 281 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 13: Well, this seemed to be kind of two big theories 282 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 13: going on about this war. One is that this is 283 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 13: the end of the peace process, the other, which you've championed. 284 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 13: The other is that this is if nothing else, this 285 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 13: will prompt finally some move towards the two state solution. 286 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 13: Which which which side of that do you fit on? 287 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 8: Well? 288 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: I actually try to fit on both, and I'll tell you, John, 289 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: I think it's important to have some aspiration, some goal 290 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: that we can look toward. Many of us, my husband particularly, 291 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: worked very hard on trying to get a two state solution, 292 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: and it, frankly, in retrospect, is heartbreaking that Yaser Arafat 293 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: walked away from the deal that Bill had broker between 294 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: Israel and the Palestinian authority back in two thousand. There 295 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: could have been a Palestinian state up to ninety seven 296 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: percent of the land from the nineteen forty eight division 297 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: that would have been in existence for twenty three years now. 298 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: So I think you have to create the environment in 299 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: which there is a chance to revitalize the peace process 300 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: and a potential for a two state solution. Hamas is 301 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: not interested in a two state solution. They are dedicated 302 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: to the destruction of Israel. That is in their charter. 303 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: If you've been watching lots of different outlets over the 304 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: last month. That is what the leaders of Hamas say. 305 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: You know, they want to destroy Israel. So Hamas is 306 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: not a partner for any kind of peace or two 307 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: state solution. But the Palestinian authority might one time again be. 308 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: New leadership in Gaza might again be So we have 309 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: to get to a point where that's possible. 310 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 13: Do you think that Benuine Nasignol, who is a partner 311 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 13: for a two state solution. 312 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: I don't think there is any evidence of that. I 313 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: think the Israeli people will have to decide about his leadership. 314 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: I think there will be investigations about what led up 315 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: to and what happened on October the seventh. But I 316 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: think there needs to be new leadership of the Israelis 317 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: and the Palestinians in order to have any chance at 318 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: some kind of peace deal, especially a two state solution. 319 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 13: There's one area just I lost you once serious one, 320 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 13: then that are slightly more amusing one. But on the 321 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 13: serious side, you look at things like Ukraine. At the moment, 322 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 13: there is definitely a strategy among America's enemies. You could 323 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 13: see putin waiting perhaps for Trump, trying to dig in 324 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 13: and wait, but also I think also counting on Congress 325 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 13: where you feel that Congress feels over extended. It's got 326 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 13: the border, it's got spotenningh I'm in Israel. Do you 327 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 13: worry about America feeling as if it's over extended and 328 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 13: unable to carry out the kind of global policies that 329 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 13: you believed in. 330 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: Well up until now, the Biden administration has done quite 331 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: a remarkable job. I mean, they put together a coalition 332 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: to support Ukraine, which I think many people would have 333 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: thought unlikely when Biden took office. So I do think 334 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: the legislative agenda that Biden got passed is also another 335 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: very strong indicator of being able to get things done. 336 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: I do agree with you that it is going to 337 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: be challenging in the Congress to get more funding for 338 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: Ukraine to provide the funding Israel needs to provide the 339 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: kind of support that is required to keep our alliances 340 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: strong around the world. But at the end of the day, 341 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: I think the president will get that. And I also 342 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: think there's an opportunity for the President because the Republicans 343 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: in the Senate have said, you know, we're on board 344 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: with all of this, but we want to make some 345 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: changes at the border. I think that, you know, the 346 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Democrats should negotiate to see what kinds of changes would 347 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: be palatable for the Democrats in order to secure the border, 348 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: in order to make it clear that you know, Democrats 349 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: want a secure border and a humane system for people 350 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: who are trying to enter the United States, but we 351 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: want it to be orderly. So I think there's going 352 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: to be a lot of tough negotiation. At the end, 353 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: I think the president will get what he needs. 354 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 13: One very last things on the Republican side, you will 355 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 13: have noticed how much traction Nicky Haley has been getting 356 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 13: as a woman who was the American ambassador the UN. 357 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 13: Do you think that Biden was to stumble that might 358 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 13: be room for another woman with slightly more foreign policy. 359 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know the answer to that, but I 360 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: hope Biden doesn't stumble. I hope that he goes all 361 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: the way to the finish line because I think he's 362 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 3: earned it, he deserves it, and you know, honestly, the 363 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: only real argument or complaint is that he's old. And 364 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: you know what, I think everybody who's his age would 365 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: be very happy if they were as productive as he 366 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: is and has gotten as much done as he has, 367 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: and traveled the schedule he's traveled, so you know, I'm 368 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: going to continue to support him, and I think he's 369 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: our best candidate for twenty twenty four. 370 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: And that was former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaking 371 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg News Editor in chief John Mikelthwaite. 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