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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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Speaker 1: how Stuff Works, and I love all things tech and

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Speaker 1: we are continuing our celebration of tech Stuff's tenth anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Now all full disclosure here. I recorded an episode about

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Speaker 1: services and companies that are younger than tech Stuff, and

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Speaker 1: I intended it to be one episode, but then when

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Speaker 1: recording ended, we realized that I was creeping up over

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Speaker 1: an hour and that's a really long episode, so we're

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Speaker 1: breaking it into two parts. So what you are about

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Speaker 1: to hear is the first part of that two part

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Speaker 1: series where I really talk about some interesting things that

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Speaker 1: have happened since the launch of tech Stuff. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with some products that and companies that did

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Speaker 1: not exist at that time. And the first thing I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about is Apple's iPad. And this was

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Speaker 1: a doozy. If you've are a long time listener to

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Speaker 1: tex Stuff, you know what I thought about tablet computers.

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Speaker 1: I remember talking with Chris Palette, the original co host

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Speaker 1: of tech Stuff, about Apple's rumored tablet computer. So before

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Speaker 1: it even had a name before it launched. I was

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Speaker 1: convinced that if the company came out with a tablet,

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Speaker 1: it would just be a fad and after a short

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Speaker 1: while it would disappear, because why would you need a tablet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get a smartphone. I understand smartphones. You

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Speaker 1: can put that in your pocket when you don't need it,

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Speaker 1: you can carry it around wherever you go. And if

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Speaker 1: you want something that is a more of a rich

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Speaker 1: involved experience, why not use a computer like a laptop

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Speaker 1: case for a tablet. Now this was largely because I

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Speaker 1: was looking at it from my own personal perspective. It

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Speaker 1: just seemed like a computer made more sense for anything

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Speaker 1: I thought the iPad will never take off, And boy

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Speaker 1: was I wrong. So the iPad came out in April,

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Speaker 1: and there was a year on year decline and iPad sales,

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Speaker 1: and then we saw a modest increase of two point

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Speaker 1: maybe what that tells us is that a lot of

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Speaker 1: the folks who needed or wanted a tablet got one

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Speaker 1: early on. Then they saw very little reason to buy

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Speaker 1: just thought, well, I've already got one that works well enough,

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Speaker 1: years at any rate. The iPad showed once again that

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Speaker 1: Apple can make a market when no one else can

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Speaker 1: make a market for that particular product. Because tablet computers

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Speaker 1: thanks to Apple. Next, I'm gonna talk about bing as

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Speaker 1: in the search engine. Microsoft launched Bing in two thousand nine.

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Speaker 1: It was a competitive search engine, really meant to go

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. According to stat Counter,

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Speaker 1: Being accounts for about three point two four percent of

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Speaker 1: while it does have some market share, trails far far

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Speaker 1: behind Google. However, that also was a thing that did

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Speaker 1: not exist back when tech Stuff first started. Venmo another product,

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Speaker 1: or service rather that launched after tech Stuff did. Venmo

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Speaker 1: launched in two thousand nine from co founders Andrew Cortina

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Speaker 1: and ekrom magden Ishmael. Originally, it was a service that

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Speaker 1: would let you send a text message to music groups

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Speaker 1: I use Venmo. And I said, well, Venmos owned by PayPal,

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Speaker 1: But yes, Venmo is still very active. It is a

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Speaker 1: between individuals. Uh So I actually really like that service

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Speaker 1: a lot. Four squares another thing that did not exist

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Speaker 1: a similar project earlier called Dodgeball. This is a location

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Speaker 1: create a similar service that would let people check into

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Speaker 1: Speaking of analysis, then we have Wolf from Alpha. We

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Speaker 1: first launched. Wolf from Alpha is a computational knowledge engine,

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Speaker 1: that's not exactly what Wolf from Alpha does. It launched

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work for everything, but it works really well

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Speaker 1: Another thing that launched after tech Stuff was Snapchat that

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Speaker 1: launched in September two thou eleven, and boy howdy, the

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Speaker 1: Snapchat story is one I will have to cover in

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Speaker 1: And that was a big deal. You see, Snapchat was

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Speaker 1: so it got repackaged as a product for the general

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Speaker 1: particular projects. So, for example, we could have a tech

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Speaker 1: stuff chat room for internal work here at how Stuff Works,

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Speaker 1: or you could use direct messaging. It's got a lot

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Speaker 1: and I kind of hate it. But that's not because

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Speaker 1: perfectly fine. I hate it because it creates yet more

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Speaker 1: notifications that can interrupt me as I do research and writing,

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Speaker 1: The tool is fantastic. I just wish I could lock

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Speaker 1: myself away in a quiet library sometimes when I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to put an episode together. The creation of so many

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Speaker 1: a message is sent to you. So, in other words,

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Speaker 1: going on. In other words, it's really it's really disruptive

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Speaker 1: I need to work on that. She's better at it

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Speaker 1: than I am and she's only played twice. Next, how

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Speaker 1: about chat Roulette. This online service randomly matches up people

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Speaker 1: it to earn the serves this reputation. A similar service

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Speaker 1: This one was designed by Leaf K. Brooks. Omegel initially

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Speaker 1: but sadly that tends to take a back seat to

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Speaker 1: all the coverage about people who are using it to,

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Speaker 1: you know, either get naked or ask other people to

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Speaker 1: get naked for them. So, you know, you can't always

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Speaker 1: predict how your product is going to be used once

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Speaker 1: if that was Andre's idea when he first decided to

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Speaker 1: that reputation. Square was founded in two thousand nine and

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Speaker 1: Dorsey has been in charge of a couple of companies

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Speaker 1: a technology that makes it easier to accept credit cards

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Speaker 1: as a form of payment. The original card readers were

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Speaker 1: plug into a mobile devices audio jack at three point

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Speaker 1: five millimeter jack. So back when audio, when your smartphones

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Speaker 1: and stuff had those. These days you need either an

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Speaker 1: And I've seen these everywhere. A lot of the coffee

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Speaker 1: small businesses to accept credit card payments for their goods

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Speaker 1: or services. And I'll have to do a full episode

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Speaker 1: on that company at some point as well. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that wraps up this first part of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: came out after tech Stuff debuted. In our next episode,

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Speaker 1: to take a look at some that didn't stand the

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Speaker 1: and they aren't around anymore. So make sure you tune

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Speaker 1: can do that by sending me an email. The address

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