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Speaker 1: Good morning, sir, Hey, Kevin, Corey, Mike. Good to be

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Speaker 1: on with you, guys. Always good to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Jerry got a big game coming up against the Giants here,

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Speaker 1: and I just saw that the Giants announced fan Appreciation

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Speaker 1: free medium soda. Will you be trying to finagle a

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Speaker 1: me one. Seriously, I'll tell you, I'm really concerned. It's

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Speaker 1: quite a story in New York has got over their injuries,

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Speaker 1: and that's when you realize that the depth of these

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Speaker 1: be a fight for us. Now. You mentioned the injuries

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Speaker 1: for the Giants, and that is very fair. The other

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Speaker 1: with COVID. Obviously y'all have had issues with COVID. I

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Speaker 1: am really curious and hopeful that you can tell us

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Speaker 1: about altering or changing COVID policies. Yeah, I like where

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Speaker 1: get to a point probably this week that will only

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Speaker 1: test if symptomatic. That's if you've been vaccinated, and that's

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Speaker 1: I think we've gotten to a point where players, union

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Speaker 1: that done. Now. There will be stepped up protection because

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Speaker 1: of this quote outbreak we're having right now, and so

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Speaker 1: practice or away from the team. Jerry, is it fair

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Speaker 1: which we did last year. And this really approximates in

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Speaker 1: my mind, going back to the protection the in the

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Speaker 1: You know, we've only had one NFL player period in

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Speaker 1: I know, like when Amari Cooper got coronavirus and some

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Speaker 1: And don't think I don't look at those division champs

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Speaker 1: always emphasized and especially in the offensive line, the continuity,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, maybe the country has caught Micah Parsons fever.

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Speaker 1: this race? And who are you putting your money on? Absolutely? Now,

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Speaker 1: those sprints. It has been suggested we don't do those

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Speaker 1: I've never forget my son, Jerry Junior, when he played

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Speaker 1: think I have scoop football. That's awesome stuff right there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir, obviously appreciate that. Love for

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. Always love talking with you. Best of

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Speaker 1: luck this weekend against the Giants. So you guys, Rogerie,

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