1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: So this story I had to lead in with you 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: about what happened in South America. Have you been following 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: that story? Yes, tens of millions of people left in 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: the dark. Power was out for fourteen hours. Is I'm 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: not sure exactly what happened. I'm going to tell you 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: what my guess is some nation is experimenting with hacking 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: and shutting down power grids. That's my guess. Fully agree 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: you think so? Absolutely? Yes, yep. It's shape of things 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: to come. And that is another unfortunate part of all 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: of this scenario, the hacking possibilities of just shutting down 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the power grid by getting into it. I was given 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the honor two months ago by the FBI to attend 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: to conference down East down by Raleigh at one hundred 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: agents whose primary task is related to cybersecurity issues, and George, 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm actually feeling a little bit of optimism. And times 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: in the past you and I have talked and it's 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: been like, is anybody doing anything? And we would both 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: lamentate no. Right, Well, FBI and others. I got another 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: one I could tell you about later. They've taken it seriously. 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: In fact, the deputy director of the FBI, as she 22 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: said to the audience, if we do not do our job, 23 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: read Fortune's book, because you're going to find out how 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: your families are going to be living the day after. 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Did you wake them up? Maybe hopefully through us, but 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: it was you that did this? But did they finally say, 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: we've heard about William Forstune, We've read his books. This 28 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: is real stuff. I don't want to wrap you broths 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: around myself and say it was me. It was It's 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: been a lot of people. It's how many people do 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you reach, you know with your program? And we've been 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: talking about that for a year. Doctor Peter Prye and 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the Commission, a couple of members of Congress who are 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: on top of things, like Mark Meadows. Well you got 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Peter Prye on our program, and well he's been on 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Frinda when I got me into the subject, and I mean, 37 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: that guy's the godfather. How close are we to legislation? 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: First of all, William, I'm getting this done. Finally, Finally, finally, 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the former president put out some executive order related to 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: CMME that was to use another acronym pure bs. All right, 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the current President Trump put out I think you and 42 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: I even talked about it back in March. He put 43 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: out a really powerful executive order ordering various branches of 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: government to respond within ninety two hundred twenty days to 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: start setting up initial plans. So I mean, they're not 46 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: actually out there hard hatting it yet and doing the 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: things that are necessary. But I do know somebody in 48 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the administration, and it's the President's taking very seriously. The 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: problem is Congress is gridlocked on everything, on everything. You 50 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: have the snake chasing its tail, while the real stuff 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: that needs to be taken care of it is being ignored. 52 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: And this is one of the biggest They need to 53 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: look at what happened in South America last weekend and 54 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: say this could be us. Here's our wake up call. 55 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Thank god we didn't get hit, but we need to 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: fix this and fix this right now, because this is real. 57 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Well now, whether somebody hacked them or something else happened, 58 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: who knows at this point. But the part is it 59 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: went down. It looks like a hack. I think too. Well, 60 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: let's go to American territory. Puerto Rico is American territory, 61 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: and it's been almost two years there are still parts 62 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: of Puerto Rico without electricity because of the hurricanes. Yes, yeah, 63 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: and the bureaucratic, bureaucratic stupidity, blundering, arrogance. Remember the mayor 64 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: of San Juan denouncing the president and you know you're 65 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: not helping us while stacked up behind her. Remember where 66 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: hundreds of them of boxes. They got most of the 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: grid back up. It's been mostly the army project, the 68 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: engineering department, and then it went back down again. I mean, 69 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: if you're going to live in the hurricane zone, build 70 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: the deal with hurricanes. Puerto Rico got wiped out, they're 71 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: still not fully functional. Were your fortune with us? His 72 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: latest book is called forty eight Hours. He's got several 73 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: others that are all very important on this subject. Welliam, 74 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: let's start with empt. Explain what that is and how 75 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: it could be dangerous to the grid. Well, let's go 76 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: to EMP one oh one, okay, electro magnetic pulse. It 77 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: is produced by detonating a relatively low yield nuclear weapon. 78 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: You don't need some megabomb something around fifty to one 79 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: hundred k, which is small, horrible as it is. I mean, 80 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Hiroshima was about twelve to fifteen k detonate that two 81 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles above the Earth's atmosphere. The electrostatic 82 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: discharge cascades down to the Earth's surface from the detonation 83 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: of the bomb, intensifying as it's traveling to just be 84 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: a light hits the Earth's surface and all of the 85 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of miles of wiring out there instantly 86 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: get hit with an electrical overload. It blows the grid offline. 87 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: It overloads particular of your high transmission lines. There's aluminum 88 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: towers with those big lines. Now they're john they are 89 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: literally exploding off the pylons were without power. Estimates from 90 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: within the industry in a DOJ report, excuse me, Dale 91 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: report indicate eighty percent of a power grid would still 92 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: be offline after five years. Now five years, and how 93 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: many people could die after that. I attended a conference 94 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: some years ago of people who work in the industry, 95 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean experts on this issue, and there was a 96 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: team there that was running down what happens to us, 97 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: and the estimated casualty rate in America would be close 98 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: on to nine. And just so folks know, you don't 99 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: die from the direct emp, No, you die from the 100 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: ancillary of things that happen without having electricity. Well, let's 101 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: let's go to what I would call high you know 102 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Maslow's hierarchy and needs in an EMP. Instantly, your water 103 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: supply is gone. Any major city, you lose your pumping facilities, 104 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: You've lost your banking system is down. Everything is down 105 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: within sanitation is down. These stores, the food stores are down. Ah. 106 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I was just looking something up the other day on 107 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: that that. You know, your major markets all have heavy 108 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: duty backed up generators built into them because if they 109 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: lose if they totally totally lose power after X amount 110 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: of time, any food requiring refrigeration or freezing is condemned. Yea, 111 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: We're talking millions of dollars in just one big supermarket. 112 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: And the panic in you know, when a local meteorologist 113 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: in a city says we're going to have a big 114 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: snowstorm tomorrow, folks, if people hit the stores, the shelves 115 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: are empty. It's unbelievable because they can't stock it fast enough. 116 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: And that's just with a weather alert down here in 117 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the South, it's two inches of snow. It's it's I 118 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: actually chuckle over that. But if the game's real, you 119 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a supermarkets are going to not just be lines of 120 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: people buying bread. It's gonna be mobs anything they can grab. First, 121 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: of course, ago will be bottled water, baby foods, things 122 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: like that, and then the whole place just exactly And 123 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: how does the market sell it? They can't. All the 124 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: market can do at that point would just simply be 125 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: open the doors. Now, who is capable at this point 126 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: of launching an imp attack against us? Well, jee, people 127 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: who know how to blow up oil freighters, m whoever 128 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: they may be, whoever they may be. George, aren't you 129 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: appalled that the people in the EU or saying, well, 130 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: you really haven't proven that Iran did it. We talked 131 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: about that last night with Jerry corsi Um. There's there's 132 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: there's two fronts on that. One is we don't want 133 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: another Gulf of Talking episode or a false flag. I mean, 134 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: there are people that want us in a war with Iran, 135 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: there is no question about it, and they could be 136 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: players in this situation to speed things up a little bit. 137 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure I Ran would be this stupid 138 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: to do this. Well, there's an old saying about never 139 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: underestimate stupidity. Therefore you'll never be disappointed. But in terms 140 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: of who could do it today, is South Korea capable 141 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: of doing something like launching an imp attack? Oh? North 142 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: Korea has been cable. North Korea ROA is And I 143 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: remember yet again you and I were talking. Oh, it 144 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: must have about a year ago when Um North Koreans 145 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: had put out a video showing the United States being 146 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: emped and Kim was laughing about it. And they're all 147 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: laughing about it. Look at the panic in Hawaii where 148 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: about five minutes it looked real. It was like, take 149 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: shelter and what was everybody doing running around? Yeah? Uh, China, 150 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: take China and Russia off the map directly because of 151 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: what's known as mad mutual assured destruction. Exactly, they launched, 152 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: we launch just like that. You get us, we get you. 153 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: You got a nut job in North Korea? I mean this. 154 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: Did you see what this guy threw some uh some 155 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: general Um ticked them off, so he threw him into 156 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: a tank loaded with Piranhas he has done that to 157 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: people who have fallen asleep at his meetings. The latest, 158 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: which apparently is not true, was that those involved in 159 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: his meeting with President Trump because the meeting didn't go 160 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: well for either party, he had them executed his staff. 161 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Apparently that's not true. But who knows what this guy 162 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: is capable of doing. Oh he tells people with mortars 163 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: throwing him the tigers. Now you put a new deal 164 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: weapon into that person's hands. That's something the warrior about. Yeah, 165 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: because again, you don't know how suicidal these people are. 166 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm convinced the pilot of that missing MH 167 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: three seventy plane that went down with two hundred plus people, 168 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I think the pilot tank that plane. I think he 169 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: committed suicide. So what if you have that kind of 170 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: a person as a leader of a country. Very good 171 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: analysis on that incident in Atlantic magazine which can get online, 172 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: very very good study. And yeah, the plane crash a 173 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: couple of years ago in the French Alps. Same thing. Gosh, 174 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm depressed, my girlfriend left me. I'll ram the plane 175 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: into the mountain. Well, the insanity and Tis family, and 176 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: what about a rogue nation that puts a missile on 177 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: a boat and you know, comes down under the Pacific Ocean, 178 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: gets as close as they can to us, and launches 179 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: it into the atmosphere. I've got to reemphasize to those 180 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: listening this is real world scenarios. George and I are 181 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: not just we're not making this up. We're not making 182 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: this up. This is in very authoritative reports. The Congressional 183 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: studies of four oh eight in the most recent one 184 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: all have speculation, not speculation scenarios. You'd take a scud 185 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: missile loaded on a container ship, wander around a little bit, 186 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: get within a couple of hundred miles of the coast, 187 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: very low tech, point it up, launch it, and if 188 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: you want, you can blow the ship up afterwards so 189 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: there's no fingerprints, and ten minutes later, you and I 190 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: are back a thousand years. Yep. Real stuff. 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