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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Bat So, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say this before we get to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is okay that the Knicks have decided to not

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Speaker 1: raise the Emirates Cup banner at Madison Square Garden. After

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Speaker 1: sorry that the world champion Knicks have decided not to

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Speaker 1: raise the Emirates Cup banner at MSG in the next

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Speaker 1: days weeks, They're going to continue to focus on the

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Speaker 1: season at hand, and I know Adam Silver is gonna

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Speaker 1: be upset, But it is okay because Mike Harmon, this

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Speaker 1: championship is for me. It's for me, It's for every

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Speaker 1: Knicks fan that waited how many years for some crazy

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Speaker 1: mid season tournament to be invented that the Knicks could

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Speaker 1: win something and we could celebrate.

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Speaker 2: This is my championship. That's why it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Just always remember all championships were invented at some point, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exact people started playing a game and then they said,

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Speaker 1: at the end, what do we need to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, seven, how do we give it?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Seventy years from now, we're saying, Wow, the Knicks won

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Speaker 1: that Great E Cup over the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: That was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about it like it's a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, Well we talked about it yesterday. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to celebrate the game. We talk about the

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Speaker 1: Spurs and what they're becoming and your preseason prediction and

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Speaker 1: the depth there and guys coming back from injury and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a force in the West.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Your Knicks trying to find the identity in the post

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Speaker 2: Is it perfect? No?

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Speaker 1: But do you get more people involved? Great, it's the

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Speaker 1: Knicks in prime time in a standalone window. If nothing else.

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Speaker 1: You got both sides, right, you got fans and you

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Speaker 1: got hate watching, and yes, you have those five rows

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Speaker 1: of people in attendance, But forget about that for a moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the.

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Speaker 1: Television ratings were on it, and I really don't care

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Speaker 1: if you don't like it to watch. But that's the

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Speaker 1: rule of thumb with every NBA night of games. If

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Speaker 1: you know what, you weren't gonna watch until April anyway,

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Speaker 1: So don't try to spoil it for everybody else.

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna put it.

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Speaker 1: Out as a championship, as a tournament that you know incentivized,

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Speaker 1: because I heard people cry about that, you're the only

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Speaker 1: played because I got an extra five hundred thousand. Fine,

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Speaker 1: be good, we got some good basketball played, because that's

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Speaker 1: a bit. We should all be so lucky to have

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Speaker 1: someone dangle a carrot in the form of a giant

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Speaker 1: bucket of cash in front of us. If that's what

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Speaker 1: it takes, good, I'm not gonna play it. Oh but

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna give me? Yeah fine, Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'll absolutely play for that. I didn't know it was

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Speaker 1: that kind of money. Yeah, I'll absolutely do it. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. How odd that was with Hart and Brunson.

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Speaker 1: We had the podium and that, but no banner. It's

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Speaker 1: like the banner is for you Smith, of course, what

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Speaker 1: will it be? And eventually they will be forced by

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Speaker 1: the sponsor to put one up and look and here's

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Speaker 1: here's the here's the realism of it. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, hey Blake, everybody that made fun of the

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Speaker 1: Knicks winning and celebrate everybody celebrates winning the E Cup?

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Speaker 1: Oh with the Knicks one? Yeah, Jason, wait, don't we

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Speaker 1: can't wait. That'll be some next stuff. It'll be drunk

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Speaker 1: it's the just the idea, Yeah, exactly, get get it

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Speaker 1: nice and prothee but the idea that you know, don't

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Speaker 2: Do we watch how guys celebrate regular season wins? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Season season win twelve. Hey, we've got a three game

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Speaker 2: Like they've won a title.

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Speaker 1: Now, these guys actually win a half a million dollars

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Speaker 1: each in a standalone tournament, and they're supposed to go

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Speaker 1: add no big deal, next up, see again Friday, Like

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Speaker 1: it's so disingenuous, hot take nonsense, like my god, find

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Speaker 1: it's okay, right because to tell the truth about it

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Speaker 1: is this, the Knicks are gonna raise the banner at

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Speaker 1: some point. Right the NBA wants to me right now,

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Speaker 1: Adam Silver is trying to find a way to call

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Speaker 1: this for a reason. We have this tournament here. It's

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Speaker 1: gon gonna happen. The Knicks are doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: They're showing everybody we won. We're moving on. It's not

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson's first of four trophies this year, the E

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Speaker 1: Cup Championship, the E Cup MVP, the NBA MVP, and

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Speaker 1: then the Larry O'Brien Trophy. But that's what they have

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Speaker 1: to do. They have to make it. They have to

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Speaker 1: make Listen, we don't care Brunston even said after the game,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna celebrate this for a day or so, then

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Speaker 2: Look, they they play tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: And already I think four of their starting five is

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Speaker 1: the Pacers. It doesn't matter. So of course they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this. But eventually the Knicks are gonna raise the banner.

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Speaker 1: Right it may be the beginning of next season. It

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Speaker 1: of everybody's gonna everybody's gonna be okay, they'll raise a banner.

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Speaker 1: It's just now the Knicks are showing you one championship

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Speaker 1: down this year. One to go, go New York, Go

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Speaker 1: New York, Go, Go New York, Go New York.

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Speaker 2: Go. That's all it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, find your wins man every day and if folks

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Speaker 1: something else that brings you a little bit of happiness.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not for everybody.

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Speaker 1: And yes, we had we had fun with it, right

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Speaker 1: as of December sixteenth, December seventeenth, yeah, you won it

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Speaker 2: You get to claim victory in a tournament.

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Speaker 1: Because it sounds like you've been there before, But the

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We come on man, second round of the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, man, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: It's like the first party I went to where there

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Speaker 2: What do I do?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'd ever been in this situation before.

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Speaker 1: All the other party has been dungeons and dragons. Now

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Speaker 2: No, I never did that. I think I've ever experienced

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Speaker 1: and it's not pretty it'll be in my book.

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Speaker 2: It'll be it'll be in my book. I write to

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Speaker 1: Uh So, while that's happening, while the Knicks are still sorry,

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Speaker 2: No banner, no ship that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: What what do you mean when you of course the

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Speaker 1: Harmon's gonna make a T shirt with that on it.

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Speaker 2: Frostbray's got a ship head. Don't put that in his head.

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Speaker 1: Uh this out of the NFL that we got some

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Speaker 1: big NFL stories coming up. We got big quarterback stories.

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Speaker 1: We got basically, we have quarterback stories the rest of

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Speaker 1: this hour, right, so you know how great this hour

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Speaker 1: is going to be. Cam Ward, Titans quarterback, said he

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Speaker 1: right because i'm But it makes sense. He is your

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there has been a more non descript,

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Speaker 1: one overall picks. We don't talk about that much. How

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where you go. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: Right, you're a star in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He is not flat.

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Speaker 1: He's at one or two games this year where his

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Speaker 1: underachieving rookie season for a number one pick that I

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Speaker 1: can remember. And it's not the just even Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: cam Ward has shown you that, man, he's really terrible.

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Speaker 1: He can't do the job. But he's not flashed at

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Speaker 1: all to make you think like he is the quarterback

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Speaker 1: more NFL on the Way, plus an NBA visit. What

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Speaker 2: That's next? Right here? I heard that smart guy jerk.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks won't hang that banner.

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Speaker 1: The world Champion Knicks, World Champion Knicks, E Cup Champion Knicks.

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Speaker 2: It's their world. We're all living in it. They're not

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Speaker 1: They get back to action tomorrow night, Full Night in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Joining us now on the hotline NBA insider

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Speaker 1: who is continuing his effort to try to undermine the

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Mark g underscore Medina, Mark, what's

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Jason? At least I've been effective with the destoring.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers aren't playing good defense, But I got no

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Speaker 1: Well that's okay because I watched Lucas say today that

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Speaker 1: They really like he's gonna suddenly change and play great defense.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Jason, He's don't gain a lot of steals, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean him being dpoy. It could be as unexpected

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that was unexpected. The next it's

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Speaker 2: That's four trophies him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, uh, the Knicks are a good team, but Jase,

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Speaker 3: Each champion the last year's you know what happened to

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's also only been to.

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Speaker 1: It's also it's not like it's not like it's been

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Speaker 2: It's been two years. But I did.

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Speaker 1: That's not statistically relevant, But I dig the fact that

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks are trying to buck the trends. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like they haven't had a banner since nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 3: Celebrate something. I mean, they got a revenge against the

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Speaker 3: why why has he got to be a party prooper

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Speaker 1: Well, so we'll have it eventually. We're focused on the Bay.

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Speaker 3: Know what, trolling aside. The Knicks do have a really

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Speaker 2: That's an anything. We just beat the Spurs, who beat

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you got to find your wins where you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a good question. And look I'm trolling

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Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns the guy? Will they trade for Giannis

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Speaker 1: at the deadline? Whill they have to make these big changes.

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Speaker 1: This is your tangible evidence that you can point to

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Speaker 1: and say what we're doing is working right, We have

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Speaker 1: good right now, everything is going well. Look, moving Josh

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Speaker 1: Hart to the starting lineup was a big deal for them.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where their run started, but like they

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Speaker 1: needed that bit of tangible proof that what we're doing

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Speaker 1: is working. We love Mike Brown, everything is good going forward,

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Speaker 1: So this was a big They needed that win much

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Speaker 1: more than the Spurs did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it reinforces hey, how does a team perform

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Speaker 3: in high six games? Just because of the stage, the

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Speaker 3: prize money with the five hundred and thirty five. You know,

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown and every other coach has liked this tournament

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Speaker 3: so far because it's only gets guys that otherwise may

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Speaker 3: have been sleepwalking to a regular season game to actually

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Speaker 3: care a lot more, and coaches like players that care

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Speaker 3: a lot more, so that all helps. I think, you know, again,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a small sample size is the third year,

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Speaker 3: but there is some level of concern on when you

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Speaker 3: have this game, not that anyone's really dousing each other

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Speaker 3: with champagne, but just kind of the bounce back of

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Speaker 3: what the next week is like from a scheduling standpoint.

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Speaker 3: But I think big picture, it's all really positive and

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Speaker 3: as what it means in the trade deadline, look like,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of thinking around the league

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Speaker 3: that the Knicks had the most and best assets to

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Speaker 3: offer the Milwaukee Bucks to for Gianni sont Tokumpo, and

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Speaker 3: I think that that's possible even without trading Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 3: You can buy in Karl Anthony Towens, mckal bridges, maybe

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Speaker 3: some draft picks and some other players. But they don't

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Speaker 3: have to do that, And if the Bucks are asking

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Speaker 3: for so much in return, I think the Knicks can

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Speaker 3: feel comfortable with saying no. And I think the last

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Speaker 3: thing is everything is up for fluid, up for debate.

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Speaker 3: Everything's fluid. But if I had a guess with Giannis,

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Speaker 3: I think that this gets more result in the off

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Speaker 3: season than in the mid season because there's just so

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Speaker 3: much There's so much push pool on. You want to

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Speaker 3: make this big move, but is it going to disrupt

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Speaker 3: chemistry mid season? And how do you make the most

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Speaker 3: of everyone you know without much time and even with

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Speaker 3: the honest being a game changing player, do you take

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Speaker 3: a few steps back to go forward? So with that,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Giannis is moving anywhere until the summer.

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Speaker 3: But for the Knicks, at least they feel comfortable that

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Speaker 3: they can at least have a say that as opposed

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Speaker 3: to this is what the Bucks are going to do.

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Speaker 1: Mark We had that fun the other night one sixteen

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Speaker 1: one fourteen Lakers and Suns and Dylan Brooks, professional agitator

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Speaker 1: getting it after it's saying I wish I'd just let

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Speaker 1: James take the shots. You can airball it, professional social

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Speaker 1: media guy, and back and forth. But Lebron jay and

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Speaker 1: stepping up to the free throw and everybody looking around going, wait,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: How's that going over? With your buddy?

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Speaker 3: JJ Reddick, Hey, JJ was very honest saying that Leigal

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Speaker 3: was supposed to make the free or shoot the free

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Speaker 3: throw to obviously make it. You know, I think Lebron

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Speaker 3: redeemed himself with you know, getting fouled. Now that might

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Speaker 3: be disputed with Devin Booker with whether he actually hit

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Speaker 3: the rest or not, but he did make two out

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Speaker 3: of three, so he did rectify to some degree. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, small, small things like that matter, and so

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Speaker 3: you hate for Lebron to do something that's needlessly difficult

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Speaker 3: when you have Luca Doctrich on your team. But I

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Speaker 3: will say at the same time, since his return, he's

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Speaker 3: mostly hit the right buttons, He's hit the scoring mode

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Speaker 3: when he's needed. He's accepted being facility tater when needed.

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Speaker 3: He's even had some chase down block So he's not

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Speaker 3: Lebron ten years ago, nor should we expect. But I

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Speaker 3: think for the most part he has adapted to his role.

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Speaker 3: But there are exceptions like the free throw where you

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Speaker 3: know he can't help himself and think, Hey, I'm the

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Speaker 3: guy when he actually isn't.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, we saw the big headline coming into the E

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Speaker 1: Cup last night, Joe Lakem's email to a fan talking

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Speaker 1: about the frustration the Warriors have and Steve Curse had listen,

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Speaker 1: We're all frustrated.

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Speaker 2: The email is not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling the Warriors are kind of feeling

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Speaker 1: that the things getting a little tight there and maybe

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Speaker 1: a big deal could be.

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Speaker 2: On the horizon for them because clearly they need something else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they clearly do. I mean they thought that going

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Speaker 3: in this season, Steph Curry and Jimmy Bower, the great

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Speaker 3: chemistry that they forged would be enough to have them

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Speaker 3: be in the mix and Raymond's healthier. But there's alway

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Speaker 3: his questions about Jonathan kaminga with what was going to

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Speaker 3: happen after the way these prolonged contract negotiations went, and

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Speaker 3: there was an early pop at the beginning of the

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Speaker 3: season that his play was really good, but that's been

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Speaker 3: Kaminga in a nutshell. He's very feasts or family, he's

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Speaker 3: very unpredictable, and they structured his contract in a way

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Speaker 3: that would be a team friendly deal, that would be

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Speaker 3: easily tradable. So I think it's inevitable he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: dealt before the trade deadline. But the question is what

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Speaker 3: do they get in return, Because there's a reason why

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Speaker 3: Kaminga didn't really get as much offers as he had

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Speaker 3: hoped and thought he would have gotten last offseason, and

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Speaker 3: had many reasons beyond just second Apron concerns. It's just

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Speaker 3: that a lot of teams are skeptical about him. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Warriors need to make some changes, and they're definitely frustration.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think the email foreshadows that miss is

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Speaker 3: Steve Kerrs last year or anything like that. I think

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Speaker 3: that they've had a healthy dynamic. I think it just

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Speaker 3: captures that Joe's very candidate blog, and you know they're

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Speaker 3: used to at least having a shot to contend for

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Speaker 3: a title, and that's obviously not happening so far.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at mark G Underscore Medina. That's at

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Speaker 1: mark G Underscore Medina Athlon Sports Spectrum Sportsnet and riding

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Speaker 1: one of the e bikes that Luca bought him for

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Speaker 1: a Christmas present. Marcus always buddy, appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Man. Have a great holiday.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soonch you guys. Jason, enjoy the

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Speaker 3: NBA Cup until June.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is first. Yeah, because then I can

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Speaker 1: enjoin the Larry O'Brien Trophy.

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Speaker 2: We're good. Be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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