1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Cala. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Here's Cow. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: New details are emerging about the five South American fishermen 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: who survived fifty five days in the Pacific Ocean stranded 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: on a powerless boat. The two Colombians and three Peruvians 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: were making their way along the coast of Peru when 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: their ship's alternator failed. This made communication and navigation tools 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: malfunction and left the crew with no way to call 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: for help or get back to shore. They survived nearly 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: two months by drinking rain water and, according to the 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Ecuadorian Navy, par boiling fish using rusty water from the engine. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how they caught the fish, but 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I can shine some light on the cooking technique they used. 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Par Boiling is when you boil something but not quite 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: all the way. It actually comes from an old French 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: word meaning to boil thoroughly, but it got the definition 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: it has in English because it sounds like par chilly boil. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: You might parboil rice or vegetables to get them soft 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: before throwing them in a stir fry, or to infuse 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: meat with flavor before finishing the cook some other way. 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't think these fellows were too concerned about flavors 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: or textures, but they were concerned about resources, namely firewood 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: and fresh water. Without any power, they were likely cooking 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: fish over a fire using anything on the boat that 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: might burn. I'm sure they were also worried about running 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: out of drinking water since they didn't know when the 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: next rain would come, so they boiled the fish just 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: enough to hopefully kill some bacteria without using too much 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: firewood or fresh water. It's a pretty smart idea, and 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's part of the reason they survived so 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: long without dying from dysentery or turning to other forms 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: of meat, if you know what I mean. This week 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: we've got public land sales, crime, the attack desk, listener emails, 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm going to tell 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: you about my week. And my week has been hectic. 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: It's packed, and it's all important because it's all public 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: lands oriented type work. If you have noticed in your 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: social feeds and news feeds, public lands are very much 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: in the spotlight and we are doing our best to 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: keep up. Every day I get messages like this cal 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I've been reaching out to my congressman at a furious rate, 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: but getting a hold of people is proving very difficult. 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: All I'm getting our message boards and non responses. If 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: you have any tips, I'd appreciate it. I feel like 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing everything I can to talk to someone, but frankly, 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: it feels very disheartening. Good evening. My name is Matt 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: and I'm a hunter and angler from Arizona. I call 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: my Arizona representative, David Schweikert let him know I am 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: opposed to the sale of public lands. I also use 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: the BHA take action link to send an email. I 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: was wondering if there are others I should contact do 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: I also try to reach out to my senators and 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: from somewhere across the pond guessing a Scandinavian country quote. 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: This is something that I personally feel American Hunter in 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: some way takes a bit too easy on you guys. 57 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Public land is so amazing, it's insane compare to whole 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Europe where it's all private land and the entry level 59 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: for new hunters is very, very tricky. Appreciate your reaching out. 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: So you're going to hear this over and over again 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: because you got to take action and actually do it. Calling, emailing, writing, 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: in visiting your elected officials does make an impact. The 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: other thing you can do is do a quick social 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: media post and tag them in it. Be respectful, let 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: them know what you're thinking right now. Of course, public 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: lands and access to them are on my list of 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: asks for my elected officials. Thankfully I have some that 68 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I can say thank you for standing up and doing 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: the right thing very noticeably. Gave Vasquez out of New Mexico, 70 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Mike Simpson out of Idaho, and Ryan Zinki here in 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: my home state of Montana are all doing the right 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: thing right now on the side of public lands. So 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: get your thank yous in there too, alongside your ass. 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: Another cool thing that I want to make people aware 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: of is that it's not just individuals that are getting 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: activated here, it's brands for profit businesses and these are 77 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: all like the rumblings of grassroots awareness in the public 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: lands issues that we're facing. So I thought i'd throw 79 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: in this special segment. Renhouse Brewing down Arizona has developed 80 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: a public lands pale ale called a rep as in 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: get in touch with your rep and let them know 82 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: what you think about public lands. So far, beer drinkers 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: have sent two hundred emails in a couple of days. 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: In the brewing community outside Arizona, where Renhouse is located, 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: it is asking how they can participate, including farmers and 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: distributors such as y h Yakima chief hops who are 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: apparently giving discounted hops to breweries who make this public 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: lands palol. So let's hear right now from a private 89 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: for profit business owner who decided to take action, Preston 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: Tony of Rerenhouse Brewing and his beer rep. 91 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: All right, this is just a special drop in segment. 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: I thought, instead of explaining advocacy from a business perspective, 93 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: like why private businesses should be involved in the public 94 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: land fight, I'd bring in somebody who actually runs a business, 95 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: and an important business for a lot of outdoor folks 96 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: because the guy brews beer. A few weeks ago I 97 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: managed to get in touch with a bunch of folks 98 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: that I know at brands all across the country, and 99 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: we formed a coalition called Brands for Public Lands. And 100 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the idea is to put together all these businesses into 101 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: a big list. Everybody provides their financial statement that they're 102 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: comfortable with, and then we go to our elected officials 103 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and we say, hey, all of these brands that employed 104 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: this many people and generate this much in collective revenue 105 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: depend on public lands and access to them to survive. 106 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: This is how we recruit awesome, talented individuals to come 107 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: work for us. This is the reason that we do 108 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: the work that we do. It's critical, crucial to the 109 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: development of our products and our mental health, and we 110 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: have a huge positive impact on gross domestic product, which 111 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: is the only thing that's going to save us from 112 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: the debt monster. You cannot sell our public lands. That's 113 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: the idea behind this. And when we rolled this out 114 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: our guest today, Preston Fanny Tony teen. 115 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: It's tiny, but I'll do any of them. 116 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: You're good any th h o E n Y of 117 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Renhouse Brewing in Arizona reached out and said, well, hey, 118 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: I want to know more about this, and then we 119 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of got on this tangent having like a beer 120 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: that speaks for you, you know, like the old joke 121 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: about a hat that says hello before the person wearing 122 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: it does. That's kind of along these lines. So anyway, Preston, 123 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Tell us a little bit about 124 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Ren House Brewing. 125 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. We're locating in Arizona, originally 126 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: from Phoenix, but we have a production place in Presco. 127 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: Now that prus the majority of our beer, with some 128 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: tap rooms around the state. Yeah, And I think Arizona 129 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: and is unique and how much public land we have 130 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: and how much recreation is done on that public land. 131 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: So it's since day one, been kind of a part 132 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: of our brand and our identity, and that's that's why 133 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: I reached out. You know, I think it's we're in 134 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: a position where we have kind of a community. Craft 135 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: beer is really cool in that sense, and we have 136 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: a really active community, and you know, it's something that 137 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: we hear internally and from our team and from consumers. 138 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: You know, the value of public lands in Arizona, and 139 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: you know, when people send us pictures of them drinking 140 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: our beer, it's in public land. So it was a 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: pretty it was a pretty easy outreach on our end. 142 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's amazing how many things are tied to public lands, right, 143 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: and so you've done some some support of public lands 144 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: in the past. 145 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: What what's that looked like. 146 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it can be anything with you know, 147 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: we've done beers with the NFF with Audubon with you know, 148 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: different outdoor organizations, and it can be like a real 149 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: myopic cause a specific bird needs attention for protection reason, 150 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: or a creek and a part of the state needs 151 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: a little extra attention. You know what we can't do 152 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: that the big companies do, which is bringing huge donations. 153 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: We can get a lot of advocacy because we have 154 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: a relationship with the people who consume our product, and 155 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: if we're going to talk about it, it usually means 156 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: it's something we're passionate about. And so you know, it's 157 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: a really good way if if someone has a cause 158 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: that aligns with kind of either our ideologies or what 159 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, what we're striving to do as a business, 160 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: something as simple as doing some social media posts in 161 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: a specific label, we can start that dialogue pretty quickly. 162 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: And so you know, we've been very fortunate to do that. 163 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: In the response from your consumer is all positive negative, 164 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: somewhere in between. 165 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: What's that look like? 166 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean specifically, you know what we came up 167 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: with and the name goes to you Rep public lands IPA. 168 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: That's the one we just released with you know, a 169 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: call to action to the people drinking it and The 170 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: response immediately was huge. It was wonderful. Our hot provider, 171 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: Yakima Chief, wants to get involved and provide hops for 172 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: other bewis to start brewing it. Breweries from Montana, Washington, Colorado, California, Arizona, 173 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: they're all reaching out wanting to brew the beer. So 174 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: that's this second phase we're working on, is to kind 175 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: of make this, you know, not a renhouse specific beer 176 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: or concept, but what the original kind of target was, 177 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: which was to be a nationwide call to action people. 178 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: And I think the cool part, right is it's pretty 179 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: in your front face, front and center. It's a QR 180 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: code on the beer can. And we definitely need to 181 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: give a shout out to your other half, your your 182 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: wife who did the artwork. 183 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she does a great way she always does. 184 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 185 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: No, it's a really cool campaign, like you said, And 186 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: I was really grateful that you had great insight from 187 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: the first email. You already had some pitches of having 188 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: this in your face QR code, and our friends had 189 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: as Wildlife and Pha. We're able to kind of meld 190 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: it all together. And if you just hold up your 191 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: phone to the can, it predrafts an email to your 192 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: elected officials that you can then edit to say what 193 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: you want and really democratize the entire endeavor. But to 194 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: open that line of communication just with a beer can 195 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: and something that conceptually is really easy to do, but 196 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: I've never thought of that. I've never seen it before, 197 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: and it ended up being you know, we heard today 198 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: we had a meeting. You know, a couple hundred people 199 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: have already done it, and you know, I think that's 200 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: just going to snowball really excited. 201 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: It's super cool and it's not a gimmick, right, It's 202 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: like it's very well needed. 203 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: It's the right time, right place. 204 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: And can you tell us a little bit more about 205 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: how it works for other breweries to brew this beer 206 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: and what the brewers network that you talked about is like. 207 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the craft beer industry is really cool 208 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: from you know, the consumer side to the production side. 209 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: It is kind of like this extended family. You know, 210 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: Like I said, when people are tagging breweries in their 211 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: social media, it's them on kayaks or them fishing or 212 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: then camping. It's a lot less of them walking downtown 213 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: with a beer. Right, Like, craft beer kind of exists 214 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: in a world where it's meant to be consumed socially 215 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: and outdoors, and you know it's experiential and so there's 216 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: always been that relationship. So before we even bird the beer, 217 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: I hit up a bunch of breweries Perry Street and Spokane, 218 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: and boy Mountain in Seattle and draft Wards in Missoula 219 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: and some of my other buddies from the industry, and 220 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: you know, within thirty seconds they're like, yeah, send it 221 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: to us, let's do it. This is great. It's such 222 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: a no brainer, and some of them are going to 223 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: make beers. Some of them are just going to push 224 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: it on social media. But you know, it's very little 225 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: effort from our side in order to have this huge 226 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: response from the consumer, which is this involvement that we're 227 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: looking to do. And that QR code, you know, you 228 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: scan it with your phone, then you enter in your 229 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: address and there's a button. If you want to learn more, 230 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: you click it and they'll send you some emails to 231 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: keep you in the loop. But if you don't want to, 232 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: that's fine, and it'll assign you an email that's directed 233 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: towards you. Liketed politicians based on your home address, and 234 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: that's not Arizona specific. Fear in Missoula and you scan it, 235 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: it'll give you all your folks in California, Utah doesn't matter. 236 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: So that QR coach just gonna get you in touch 237 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: with the people that are sitting there waiting to hear 238 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: from people. You know that. I think it's easy for 239 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: us to forget that. You know, they're representatives of us, 240 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: and they are genuinely interested in hearing from us, and 241 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: this might be the push it takes. 242 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, you know, certainly my ask and I 243 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: think the idea behind this say like, don't sell off 244 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: our public land. This stuff is super important to us. 245 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: That's why we do what we do in order to 246 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: spend more time out there. And you know, you need 247 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: to stand up for us, stand up for the for 248 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: the folks that are out there recreating on the weekends, 249 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: or out there cutting timber to feed their family or 250 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: grais in livestock, like, these lands do a heck of 251 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of work for all of us, and we 252 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: need to keep them working because once you sell them, 253 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: they're gone forever. And I would hope other people are 254 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: saying the same thing. But that doesn't mean that you 255 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: can't use this to say thank you, Like my congressional 256 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: representative Ryan Zinki here in the state of Montana. He's 257 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: been one of the folks that has been very public 258 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: about saying his red line is public lands, and he's 259 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: not willing to go there. So when I take a 260 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: picture that can, I'm going to say thank you to him, 261 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask my senators like she he 262 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: and Dan's and my other Rep. Troy Downing to also 263 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: support public lands like I believe they really know they should. 264 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: So what's the landscape looking like down there in Arizona? 265 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: Well, tough to say. I think it. It seems like 266 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: when I hear one thing, the next day, I'll hear 267 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: something else. So I think, you know, we're at a precipice, 268 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: and I'd be really interested to see, you know, what 269 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: a public campaign like this could do, could it, you know, 270 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: push them over one way or the other. But you know, 271 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: I think Arizona, you know, and I think it's similar 272 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: to Nevada and Utah and some other places, but it's 273 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: unique nationwide in that I think when you're from here, 274 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: like a lot of us here at Rendhouse are, you 275 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: don't appreciate the public lands. You don't realize how valuable 276 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: that is and how unique that is having lived other 277 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: places in the country. We have so much of it 278 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: here in Arizona. I think we take it for granted, 279 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: and I think if that starts disappearing, it'd be a 280 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: huge blindside for a lot of outdoorsmen and you know, 281 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: just recreational people. And we have so much of it. 282 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: You might not miss the first couple of acres, but 283 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: then next thing you know, you're losing these entire swaths 284 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: that have been valuable to you for a long time. 285 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: So I think it's a critical time right on. 286 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: If folks want to get their local brewery, big or small, 287 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: on this rep train. Rep is the name of the 288 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: beer again, folks of public lands, payal ale. What what's 289 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: the best way for them to do that? 290 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can reach out on social media, you can 291 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: email me directly. It's Preston at Renhouse Brewing dot com. 292 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: Get in touch. We're going to put a page on 293 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: our website in the next let's say, seventy two hours 294 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: that will have free access and free rights to any 295 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: of our illustrations, our recipe, our branding, our copywriting, anything 296 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: to do it. We want to hand this off and 297 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: let people take it and run with it. They can 298 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: use as a collaboration. They can use it as their own, 299 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: so long as you know they're sticking with the ethos 300 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: of throwing that QR code on and getting people involved. 301 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well, buddy, as long as the porch pirates 302 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: don't snag my care package that you sent my way, 303 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure going to be telling people about it. I 304 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: guess I am right now, But I'd rather do one 305 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: with with the cold beverage in my hand. 306 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the right address this time. That'll help. 307 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: Just because you're good at brewing beer doesn't mean you're 308 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: good at everything else, right. 309 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: But hey, Mount, hats off to yet. 310 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you just paying attention to what's going 311 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: on and the willingness of a you know, for profit 312 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: business owner to do something that's not necessarily gonna resonate 313 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: with sales. It may alienate certain customers, but you believe 314 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, and you're doing it, 315 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's a great message to get out there. 316 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I will say internally, it's the most 317 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: excited I've seen my teammates be about a project. And 318 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: we've done a lot of projects, but you know, we 319 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: got people, you know, public outreach. Ali's killing it, and 320 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: then production Matt and Jake are killing it. But like 321 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: the entire team, they're excited in a way I haven't 322 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: seen them before. And when you're a production company, you 323 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: can only brew so much, right, like I said, brewery, 324 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: and we'll sell that amount because we've scheduled it. So 325 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: it's not like we're going to sell more beer by 326 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: doing this. To your point, it doesn't increase sales. What 327 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: it does is it increase an ethos that we're really 328 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: proud of and that's more valuable to us. And so 329 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: we're really excited and you know, all hands on deck 330 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: here at Brenn House right now to really push this 331 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: and see what we can do. 332 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Heck yeah, well, I mean that's that's a great point, 333 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, and we do our land access initiative on 334 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: the meat eater side of things, or we stand up 335 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: and talk about public and why they're important to us. 336 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: The internal response from all of myself included employees is huge, 337 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: Like you get a little pep in your step because 338 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: you're proud to be doing what you're doing because you're standing. 339 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: Up for the right things. 340 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, all right, buddy, Well thank you so much. Remember, folks, 341 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: Rent House Brewing is kicking off the rep Public Lands 342 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Pale campaign. It's the only beer out there that I 343 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: know of, that we know of that if you take 344 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: a picture in between SIPs, you can get in touch 345 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: with your rep and advocate for the things that are 346 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: important to you. And it's important right now. So I 347 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: hope you do it. I appreciate it. Thanks for having 348 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: me on. I'm really glad that we continue to keep 349 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: pushing this campaign. 350 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: Heck yeah, more to come. 351 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's get on to the news. Moving on 352 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: to the public lands desk. By now, you've probably heard 353 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: about the mandatory public land sales that were included in 354 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: the House Budget Reconciliation Bill. The first draft of the 355 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: legislation made no mention of public land sales, but two 356 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Republicans got up at the last minute, literally at the 357 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: eleventh hour, and proposed an amendment. The amendment would require 358 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: the sale of about ten thousand acres of federal public 359 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: land in Utah and potentially hundreds of thousands in Nevada. 360 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: The latest number I saw was reported by the AP 361 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: which estimates that four hundred and sixty thousand acres could 362 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: be on the auction block. It's true that the parcels 363 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: in Utah are mostly small plots around urban areas. Some 364 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: of them might be good candidates to sell to local 365 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: and state governments through the FLITFA process, which is the 366 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: public vetted process of land sales, where the profit from 367 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: that land being sold actually goes back into a fund 368 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: to purchase more public land of more critical value. But 369 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: that's not really the point. The point is that this 370 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: bill circumvents the normal, responsible process we already have for 371 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: selling public land. That process is burdensome because it requires 372 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: public input. That's frustrating for state and local officials. But 373 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: this bill isn't the answer. This bill puts deadlines on 374 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: some of these sales that may not provide enough time 375 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: for the full process to play out. It also directs 376 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: all the money from the sale of these lands to 377 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: the US Treasury. That might sound reasonable, and it's meant 378 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: to lend credibility to the idea that these sales will 379 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: reduce the deficit, but it's actually a radical departure from 380 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: the norm. Normally, the money generated from public land sales 381 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: is used to purchase or conserve public land elsewhere. The 382 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: ideas that selling this undesirable piece of land around Salt 383 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: Lake City or wherever will allow public land agencies to 384 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: expand or can serve a more desirable plot elsewhere, maybe 385 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: in a national forest or oilderness area. But this bill 386 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: eliminates that option and puts all the money back into 387 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: the general fund. Most fundamentally, this bill will require many 388 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: of these plots to be sold in a good faith process. 389 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: There's always a chance that a piece of land won't 390 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: be disposed if there's an outcry from the general public, 391 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: or the Interior Secretary decides the purpose of that land 392 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: would be better served on another property, or endangered wildlife 393 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: is discovered there, that property might not be sold. But 394 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: this Budget Reconciliation Bill does away with that good faith process. 395 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: It mandates the land be sold, despite what the public 396 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: might think. Believe it or not, Mandatory public land sales 397 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: may not be the worst part of this budget bill. 398 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: The budget also paves the way for the construction of 399 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: the Ambler Road, a two hundred and eleven mile private 400 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: mining road across the southern edge of the Brooks Range 401 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: in Alaska. It requires and facilitates an extractive leasing program 402 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: in Alaska on the largest single block of federally managed 403 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: land in the United States. It also removes protections for 404 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: boundary waters canoe area of wilderness in northern Minnesota. These 405 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: are all things we've been worried about, and now it 406 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: looks like Congress is moving forward. The silver lining here 407 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: is that this is not over, not by a long shot. 408 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: I don't know where the process will be when you 409 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: listen to this, but as of this recording, the bill 410 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: still has to pass the full House. Then it has 411 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: to go over to the Senate, where it must pass 412 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: out of the committee, and then a full Senate vote. 413 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: If the Senate has made any changes, the House will 414 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: then have to vote on those changes. The larger budget 415 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: bill is likely to pass, but we still can encourage 416 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: our representatives to remove these provisions. There are still Republicans 417 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: in the House who oppose public land sales. The Public 418 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Land Caucus was recently formed to keep public lands in 419 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: public hands. The caucus includes at least four Republicans, Ryan 420 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Zink and Troy Downing of Montana, Mike Simpson of Idaho, 421 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: and Jen Keegan's of Virginia. Republicans only have a seven 422 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: seat majority in the House, so if these four stick 423 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: together and recruit a few more, they can demand the 424 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: public land sale provisions be removed. But having just spent 425 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: time with some of these folks in Washington, I can 426 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: tell you they won't do anything unless we ask for it. 427 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: So right now, hit pause, ask Siri to connect you 428 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: to the US Capital switchboard or dial two two two 429 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: two four three one two one and ask them to 430 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: connect you to your representative. They're going to ask you 431 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: your postal code and then bing. You'll be on the phone, 432 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: most likely with the staffer and you say, hey, this 433 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: is my name, this is where I'm at, and I 434 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: am a hunter. I spend my time on public lands. 435 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: I value them, do not sell them. They don't belong 436 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: in reconciliation. If by chance, there is a chunk that 437 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: absolutely needs to be sold, it needs to go through 438 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: the process that we have in place that allows all 439 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: of US Americans to understand what it is we're selling 440 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: in order to justify the what we're getting, and those 441 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: funds go back in to getting more public land. Remember, 442 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: if you just casually poll a hunter or angler in 443 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: the United States of America, they do not say, you 444 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: know what, we need less land and less access. That's 445 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: what's going to improve my hunting and fishing. I've yet 446 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: to hear that one. Moving on to the fishing desk, 447 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: Wildlife officials in North Carolina are sounding the alarm about 448 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: an invasion. Alabama bass have made their way up from 449 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: the Tennessee River basin and are threatening the tar Heel 450 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: state's native populations of large mouth, smallmouth, and spotted bass. 451 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: When Alabama bass are introduced into a lake or waterway, 452 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: they often out compete large mouth for resources. They also 453 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: breed with small mouth and spotted bass, which eventually eliminates 454 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: those native species from the system. District biologist Ken Hodges 455 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: told local media that quote populations of largemouth bass are 456 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: being dramatically reduced, while North Carolina could potentially lose small 457 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: mouth and spotted bass entirely bad news for a couple 458 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: of reasons, But for bass anglers, the most concerning is 459 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: that Alabama bass are on average smaller than other kinds 460 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: of black bass. If Alabama bass continue their invasion, those 461 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: uh hogs, toads, lunkers, donkeys, and butterballs will always be 462 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: just a little smaller than the fish your dad and 463 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: granddad caught. That's a real tragedy. Unfortunately, there isn't much 464 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that can fix the problem in the short term. Biologists 465 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: believe Alabama bass are being spread by anglers who move 466 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: them to different waterways, called this bucket biology. They do 467 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: this to make the fishing better in those places, but 468 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: they're really doing the opposite. State officials are asking anglers 469 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: to please cut that out. They're also encouraging North Carolinians 470 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: to learn how to distinguish Alabama bass from other kinds 471 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: of bass and remove the Alabamians from the water whenever 472 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: they catch them. You can find images to help identify 473 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: Alabama bass on the North Carolina Wildlife Commission website. Big 474 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: thanks to listener Jim Lane for bringing this one in. 475 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Moving on to the attack desk, a Florida woman was 476 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: attacked and killed by an alligator last week after the 477 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: reptile tipped over her canoe. Officials with the Florida Fishing 478 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: Wildlife Conservation Commission said at a news conference that the 479 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: sixty one year old woman was paddling with her husband 480 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: where Tiger Creek meets Lake kiss Me in Polk County, 481 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: about forty miles south of Orlando. The couple was floating 482 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: in about two and a half feet of water when 483 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: they passed directly over a large alligator. Whether the animal 484 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: was trying to eat them or was just startled, it 485 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: thrashed around and tipped the canoe. The woman landed directly 486 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: on the alligator, and even though her husband tried to intervene, 487 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: the beast dragged her under. Her body was found Later 488 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: that day. Officials sent out trappers who snared an eleven 489 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: foot gater they believe was responsible. The state has averaged 490 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: eight unprovoked alligator bites a year over the ten year 491 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: period that ended in twenty twenty two. Earlier this year, 492 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: a woman was attacked by an eight foot gator in 493 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: an area near where this latest incident happened. That woman 494 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: was taking the hospital with a bite on her elbow, 495 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: but ended up being okay, staying in the Sunshine State. 496 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: A Central Florida woman saved her dog's life last month 497 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: by using a bag of cookies to distract a black bear. 498 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Kristin Savage told the local media that she was walking 499 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: her dog, Ringo, in her neighborhood around eight pm when 500 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: the bear snuck up behind her, went around her leg, 501 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: and right after the poor role Ringo, Kristin held the 502 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: dog in the air by its leash like a pinata, 503 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: but every time she put him down, the bear tried 504 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: to attack him again. At one point Kristin fell on 505 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: the ground, and at another point the bear had Ringo 506 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: in its mouth. Fortunately, Kristin remembered that she had a 507 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: bag of cookies that her mother had just given her. 508 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: She took it out, smacked the bear across the nose 509 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: with the bag, and threw the cookies in his face, 510 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: content to replace dog steaks with a sugary dessert. The 511 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: bear was distracted enough that Kristin and Ringo could escape. 512 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: You will be unsurprised to learn that this bear is 513 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: well known in the neighborhood and makes regular appearances on 514 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: doorbell cameras. Kristin has a photo of this bear nursing cubs, 515 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: and she thinks that it saw Ringo as a threat 516 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: rather than food. I'm not sure bears make those kind 517 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: of distinctions, but it's a working theory. Last one for you, 518 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: and the Illinois teenager saved his own life last October 519 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: when he used a self made tourniquet to keep himself 520 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: from bleeding out of a gunshot wound. Sixteen year old 521 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Liam Mathis was hunting from a tree stand when he 522 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: accidentally shot himself in the thigh with a rifle. He 523 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: says he was moving the gun across his upper body 524 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: when it hit a tree and went off. Knowing he 525 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: only had a few minutes to stop the bleeding, he 526 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: jumped to the ground and made himself a tourniquet using 527 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: his jeans and a stick. Then he positioned himself in 528 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: front of a cellular trail cam, which he knew would 529 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: send photos to his dad's phone. His quick thinking saved 530 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: his life. He had to be airlifted to two different hospitals, 531 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: but doctors were able to stabilize the condition, and then 532 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: he got to work on saving his leg. Incredibly, after 533 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: multiple surgeries and months of rehab, Liam is now able 534 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: to walk with just a slight limp. If you regularly 535 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: go out into the woods by yourself, you should think 536 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: about taking a first Aid class or two, even if 537 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: you don't have the right medical supplies handy. Those classes 538 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: will teach you what you need to know to be 539 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: like Liam to improvise and survive. Moving on to the 540 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: crime desk, police and aasso, Oklahoma are on the hunt 541 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: for the person responsible for killing and injuring waterfowl with 542 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: the dart gun. Local media reports that multiple ducks and 543 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: geese were shot with darts at Elm Creek Park, injuring 544 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: some and killing others. Photos shared by intrepid journalist Cal 545 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Day show one Canada goose with a six inch dart 546 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: sticking out of its neck and another dart protruding from 547 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: its torso. Injured birds were taken to a local animal hospital, 548 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: where so far they've all made full recoveries as of 549 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: this recording. The twelve year old boy, I mean, the 550 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: person responsible for those heinous crimes has not been found. 551 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: All jokes aside, it's a real jerk move to dart 552 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: birds on a pond, and I hope the parents of 553 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: whichever neighborhood kid is responsible do the right thing and 554 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: turn them in or you know whoever it is. Speaking 555 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: of less than intelligent criminals, two hunters in southwestern Ontario 556 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: got nabbed after shooting seven times at a deer decoy. 557 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Game wardens with the Ministry of Natural Resources had placed 558 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: the decoy along a road near Nestor Falls. This is 559 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: a pretty common strategy that game wardens employ if they 560 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: learn about poachers nabbing animals at night. In this case, 561 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: it worked like a charm. A truck pulled up a 562 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: half hour before legal shooting light and shown its headlights 563 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: on the decoy Armanio Ferrera and Michael Cabral got out 564 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: and fired seven total shots at the animal before they 565 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: realized that the critter was being a little too calm 566 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: about the whole situation. The pair were caught red handed 567 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: and pled guilty to careless hunting and hunting at night, 568 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: and were fined a total of seventeen five hundred dollars. 569 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: There's some states south of the border that could learn 570 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: a thing from the Ministry of Natural Resources. The Wyoming 571 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: Game and Fish Department is asking for the public's health 572 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: finding whoever shot twelve pronghorn and left them to waste. 573 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: The animals were discovered north of Kemera and Antelope Hunt 574 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Area ninety three. Game wardens got a tip from a 575 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: member of the public who'd found multiple dead pronghorn while 576 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: recreating on the Hams Fork Road north of Viva Naunton Reservoir. 577 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: When wardens arrived, they found a total of twelve pronghorn 578 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: that have been shot between the afternoon of April twenty 579 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: six and the morning of April twenty seven. Investigators called 580 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: the scene disturbing, and several of the animals were still 581 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: alive and had to be euthanized by game wardens. No 582 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: parts of any of the animals were taken, but several 583 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: mature bucks had been targeted. If you were in this 584 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: area last month and saw or heard anything, give camera 585 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: game warden Alex Poncelet a call at three ozho seven 586 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: eight seven seven three two seven eight. You can also 587 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: submit an anonymous tip at one eight seven seven WGFD tip. 588 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: Moving on to the deer desk, North Dakota finalized its 589 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season dates and license quotas last week, 590 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: and the numbers beelled trouble for the state's deer population. 591 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: The state Game and Fish Agency cut seventy eight hundred 592 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: deer tags from last year's quota, a sixteen percent reduction 593 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: in a single season. The tag reductions apply to most 594 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: of the state's deer tags, including both either species tags 595 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: and specifically designated whitetail tags. According to an article by 596 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: Sage marshall Over at the meaeater dot com, Wildlife officials 597 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: say the reduction opportunity is necessary after a series of 598 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: unfortunate events took a big chunk out of the state's 599 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: deer herds. The state's deer population continues to recover from 600 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one EHD outbreak and the severe winner 601 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: of twenty two to twenty three, which limited population growth. 602 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: NDGF Wildlife Division Chief Casey Anderson says the state already 603 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: tried to reduce gun license sales in twenty twenty three 604 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: and twenty four, but it didn't have the desired effect. 605 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: They hope this year's modest license allocations will encourage population 606 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: growth while also maintaining hunting opportunities. North Dakota is two 607 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: years out from the winner of twenty twenty two and 608 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: twenty three, but hunters are still feeling the impact. In 609 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: some units. Mule deier populations declined by as much as 610 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: eighty four percent that winter, while white tails declined by 611 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: as much as fifty one percent. I remember there was 612 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation at the time about how those 613 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: die offs would impact hunter opportunity, and I guess we 614 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: know now. Moving on to the mail bag, Cal's We 615 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: Can Review Listeners are a smart bunch. That's why I 616 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: like covering complicated, controversial topics on this show. I can 617 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: rely on you to provide context that lets us all 618 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: have a more well informed opinion. Case in point solar 619 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: farms a few weeks ago, when he wrote in to 620 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: express your opposition to a new solar farm installation in 621 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods, we covered it here on 622 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: the mail bag, and I mentioned my concerns about these 623 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: installations impacting wildlife habitat. A few days after that episode aired, 624 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: two more listeners wrote in with different opinions. Both of 625 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: these emails were polite, smart, and helpful. Richard Clark's email 626 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: had the subject line a more nuanced view on solar. 627 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: He pointed out that every energy project comes with cost 628 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: wildlife and habitat. Solar farms are more visible than coal 629 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: or gas power plants, and so local residents are quick 630 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: to oppose them, But those non renewable forms of energy 631 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: come with harms as well, mostly in the form of 632 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: increasing greenhouse gas emissions and increasing the Earth's average temperature. 633 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: Richard notes that climate change can impact hunters and anglers 634 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: as well, everything from reducing cold water habitat for salmon 635 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: and steelhead on the West Coast to increasing the detrimental 636 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: effects of winter ticks on moose in New England. Richard says, 637 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: quote the idea that a coal or gas plant outside 638 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: your town is low impact because it sits on fifteen 639 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: acres and not one thousand is an illusion that ignores 640 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: the massive footprint of fuel extraction, transportation and the pollution 641 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: it produces that affects our climate and therefore are fish, wildlife, 642 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: and wild places. He also points out that many of 643 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: these solar projects are built on farmland that isn't always 644 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: great wildlife habitat anyway, monocultures don't have the diversity that 645 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: wild animals need except maybe deer, and pesticides aren't great 646 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: for the environment either. He concludes, if we as hunters 647 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: and conservationists want to preserve the wildlife and wild places 648 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: we cherish, we can't ignore the broader context of climate 649 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: and energy. That means grappling with hard choices and supporting 650 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: projects that offer real gains, even if they challenge us. 651 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: Another listener, Adam Cobb, pointed out that the solar farms 652 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: can sometimes coexist with wildlife. Where he lives in PA, 653 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: there is a program that allows solar developers to install 654 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: small operations that only impact about fifteen acres. If these 655 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: smaller solar farms are spread out, they allow for wildlife 656 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: to continue living on those same landscapes without too much 657 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: negative impact. In fact, he says, quote, when compared to 658 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: other forms of energy production, I would argue that per megawatt, 659 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: solar has the smallest impact on wildlife. Emails fell Us. 660 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate the alternative viewpoints, and even though some listeners 661 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: and myself disagree, I think we're all a bit smarter 662 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: when we understand both sides of an issue. The reason 663 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: I take umbrage, I guess you'd say with this approach 664 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: is the fact that solar panels do not need to 665 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: occupy low value land at all. They can be on 666 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: top of a barn, a house, all those godforsaken department stores. 667 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: Let's cover that space, and even if it's marginal farm ground, 668 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: we can still grow marginal food, which in my point 669 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: of view, is better than putting a high offence around 670 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of solar panels. As per with everything, solar, gas, coal, whatever, 671 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: there's better and smarter ways to do it. Let's all 672 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: just make a commitment to improving. That's all I got 673 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: for you this week. Thank you so much for listening. 674 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Remember to write in to askcal that's an asscal at 675 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com and let me know what's 676 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: going on in your neck of the woods. I appreciate you. 677 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: Thanks again. We'll talk to you next week. 678 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: M