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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons DeMarco far right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's taking you a little inside baseball before we really

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Speaker 1: get going here. But the Rams now ten and four

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Speaker 1: after a huge forty two to seven, a huge record.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are ten and four. Wow? Yeah, four ten four? Right?

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Speaker 1: What a dreamers say? Yeah? Ten four, ten, over and out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah the Rams are ten and four now after

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Speaker 1: that forty two to seven victory over the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, which I mean, you you think about victories,

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Speaker 1: you think about how good things are. It is pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy that the Rams were able to do that. Yeah

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Speaker 1: to that team. You know, if I say Daniel l Russo,

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Speaker 1: does that make any sense to you? No? Okay, the

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Speaker 1: karate kid beat the Cobra Kai at the end? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what that felt like. You should have said the

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Speaker 1: karate kid, the karate kid, Daniel LaRusso finally gets his

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Speaker 1: revenge on Cobra Kai. Karate kid I'm more familiar with

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Speaker 1: is the Jaden Smith version? Oh the other one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the not so good one, the original, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean this was even more one sided than that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at least, you know, Cobra Kai put up a fight.

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Speaker 1: M No. I mean the Rams went up there and

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Speaker 1: they were ready for anything. I mean you could see

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Speaker 1: it in their eyes from the from the coaches on

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Speaker 1: down to the players. They were ready for absolutely anything

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Speaker 1: Seattle was ready to throw at them on the field

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Speaker 1: or after the whistle type stuff. They just weren't going

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Speaker 1: to take anything from their fans or what was going

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Speaker 1: on on the field. So you have to take your

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Speaker 1: head off to the Rams for being prepared and ready

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Speaker 1: for the rematch, and absolutely took it to him. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you and I were talking and it's sort

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Speaker 1: of easy to say this now that we are just

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Speaker 1: sitting here, the two of us in this studio, but

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Speaker 1: we know that we both were expecting the Rams to

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Speaker 1: come out and beat Seattle. And it's not something that

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Speaker 1: we said last week, but it's something that you and

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Speaker 1: I both believed, and I think going back to even

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Speaker 1: the Rams first matchup against the Seahawks, it's something that

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Speaker 1: I really thought would happen because in that game, the

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Speaker 1: difference was the turnovers, right true, And so you take

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Speaker 1: that away, and I guess you said you take that

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Speaker 1: from that game and you say, okay, look you look

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Speaker 1: at this, you look on tape, were better than this team,

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Speaker 1: and you showed that you were better. The only difference

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Speaker 1: was the turnovers, the fact that you gave them kind

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Speaker 1: of that game, and that's what happened. You saw that

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Speaker 1: the Rams were the better team definitively. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: if you take the emotion out of it and just

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Speaker 1: watch what the teams had done since that last meeting,

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Speaker 1: and you think, going into that game from a Seattle perspective,

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Speaker 1: how in the world are you going to be able

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Speaker 1: to stop the run versus anybody, let alone Todd Gurley,

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Speaker 1: a now MVP candidate. You can say it out loud

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Speaker 1: so and it showed early. I mean from his first

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Speaker 1: garread to his last. I mean, he was the better

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Speaker 1: man on the football field. So he absolutely took control

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Speaker 1: of that football game and took their heart. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: just took everything, all the passion from their defense and

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Speaker 1: then Jared Goff and the rest of the offense chip

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Speaker 1: it in and the defense, the Rams defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was the absolute capper there. I Mean, when you

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Speaker 1: get to Russell Wilson and we talked about what a

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Speaker 1: magician he is and still is, and you keep him

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and some of those shots you can

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Speaker 1: tell we're actually taking a physical toll on him. He

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Speaker 1: was getting slower and slower and slower. So that was

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Speaker 1: a first class ass kicking. It was, yeah, a dominant

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Speaker 1: showing of a football team that has playoff aspiration. So

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Speaker 1: one more game, two badots against the Titans. They're pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good, pretty darn tough. One game and you clinch

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Speaker 1: and then you're in. So but it was a great

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Speaker 1: performance up there. It was I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: way you put it is true. My mom texted me

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Speaker 1: during the game and she was like, wow, like the

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Speaker 1: Rams are opening up a can on the Seahawks, and

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Speaker 1: it was funny. Just look, it could have been worse.

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Speaker 1: It could have been if you kept everyone in right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was funny. I think looking at headlines and things

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Speaker 1: across the league, you know that you see I think

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Speaker 1: I saw words like annihilate, destroy, beat down. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know you had like take their whatevers, and um, I

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Speaker 1: should be more clear about take like take their souls

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Speaker 1: stuff like yeah, you know, you know on blogs and

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Speaker 1: Um from Seattle from the La Times, I should say,

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Speaker 1: sea like Seattle? Yes at sea? Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, basically,

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Speaker 1: how else do you see when you're talking about water? No,

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Speaker 1: I like see. I mean, Sea is in like the abbrevious.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't have an audience saying just saying,

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Speaker 1: just me and you, but I know I get you,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean when you start to see things

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Speaker 1: or guys like you know, Earl Thomas become frustrated, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, while he's playing, and just knowing that this

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Speaker 1: thing is getting away from us. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: type of stuff you haven't seen out of Seattle ever, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean that a credit to the Rams,

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Speaker 1: credit to Sean McVay being ready for that rematch. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Seattle's not going away. I mean this year

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Speaker 1: you got them. You know they're going to regroup. They

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Speaker 1: still have one of the better quarterbacks in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. So we talked about passing the torch. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams are holding on to it right now,

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Speaker 1: but Seattle will be back. Take nothing away. From them,

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Speaker 1: even if Seattle was at full strength, I think the

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Speaker 1: same thing would have happened the way the Rams were playing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the Rams would have beat them

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Speaker 1: have been a similar I think the result would have

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Speaker 1: If you had kJ Wright and you had a healthy

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Speaker 1: those holes were opening up, the way the pass protection

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Speaker 1: the other side, I'm not sure if anybody could have

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Speaker 1: stood up to the Rams that day. They played their

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Speaker 1: butts off. You know. I read story from Mike Silver

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Speaker 1: of NFL Media and basically he had written about Sean

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Speaker 1: before the game, and I think the quote was that

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Speaker 1: you prepare a pregame speech whatever, and McVeigh basically said,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it just it was like that cover to cover.

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Speaker 1: It was all of the rams just basically new, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna just gonna

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Speaker 1: go do. That's when you have good veteran leadership that

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about guys like Roger Saffold, Robert Quinn,

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Speaker 1: even Andrew Whitworth who's new to this rivalry, but he's

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Speaker 1: not new to rivalries period in the National Fotball League

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Speaker 1: and what they mean. And he was out there for

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Speaker 1: the loss, you know, at home versus Seattle, and he

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Speaker 1: knows that this team is better than there. So sometimes

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Speaker 1: coaches all they have to do is walk in and Okay,

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Speaker 1: these guys are ready to play. Yeah, let's just go

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Speaker 1: kick their blanks and get out of here. So it

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Speaker 1: was perfect. Man. Even the post game I heard Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay break it down. It was perfect, like he always does,

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Speaker 1: and let's get out of here. But Andrew Whitworth stood

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Speaker 1: up and said, hey, this is great. We have bigger

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Speaker 1: calmed down. It's like it's not over yet, be elated,

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Speaker 1: still have more things out there to do. Right, let's

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Speaker 1: get ready to do that. Right, Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was awesome to see. It's been that way. I feel

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Speaker 1: like all year for this team, you know, and whenever

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Speaker 1: it on other ms dot com and you see McVeigh

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Speaker 1: talking to the team, him doing that breakdown, and he

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Speaker 1: always says, Okay, yes we did this, but it's always

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Speaker 1: in there. Okay, this is what's next. Right. We have

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Speaker 1: a great opponent next week against law you know, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who it is, because I think they

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Speaker 1: always have this good respect for whatever opponent they're facing.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think we've not seen any of

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Speaker 1: these sort of trap games throughout the entire course of

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Speaker 1: the I think that's why you blew out Arizona in London,

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Speaker 1: right exactly. You know that that could have been one.

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Speaker 1: You talked about the New York Giants. That could have

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Speaker 1: playing the Eagles the next week, right, that could have

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Speaker 1: been took care of business there exactly. It's always the

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Speaker 1: next one, the next one, the next one, And that

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Speaker 1: approach has worked so well so far. I missed that world.

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Speaker 1: I do the one game, one week, one day at

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Speaker 1: like every day is like the rest of your life,

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Speaker 1: you know. But when you're in it, when you're playing football,

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Speaker 1: it's just every day you're just trying to get better incrementally.

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Speaker 1: So this team has earned the right to be called

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Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFC and the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So now what you have to do is you have

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Speaker 1: to prove it every single week. The teams that are

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Speaker 1: schedule because of what you've done, what you just did

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Speaker 1: to Seattle well and because of what they have just

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Speaker 1: they conceivably could have won, right, I mean, look for

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Speaker 1: their for their playoff hopes, they have to go through

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Speaker 1: two ten win teams to get there. Yeah, they have

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Speaker 1: to go through the Rams first, and then if they

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is Yes, that's a tough football team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know what's more fun to talk about

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Speaker 1: their defense or their running game. Well, it's brutal. And

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Speaker 1: if you get Bortles coming along, right, Look, Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: has actually played very well over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: if you don't get the numbers right, which is astonishing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have a joke, but I'm not gonna say it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just saying all right, yeah, anyway, I

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Speaker 1: don't have anybody to believe. No, I'm not gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: I can't right right right this weekend. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: Goff after the game in his press conference, he said,

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Speaker 1: but you know which guy is the catalyst. You know

425
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Speaker 1: which guy is actually pacing this offense. And I think

426
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: you know this. This offense has been multiple each and

427
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: every week, it's been a different guy. But either Todd

428
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: Gurley is the star or the costar to every other

429
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: star that's been wrapped around these ten wins or even

430
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: the losses. Um, yeah, it's it's gonna be hard to to,

431
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,959
Speaker 1: like you said, to take it away from Todd Gurley

432
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: if you put together another good game this week versus

433
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Speaker 1: the Titans, right, yeah, it's gonna be real real hard

434
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: to wrest that from him. I think so too, especially

435
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: if you clinch. Yeah yeah, if they clinch and he

436
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: gets to two thousand yards from scrimmage, also is twenty touchdown?

437
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I know, Tom Brady is the considered the

438
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: front runner right now. Good reason. He's doing a lot

439
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: of great things at the age of forty. There's just

440
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 1: things that you're just not used to seeing from any

441
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: player in the NFL, let alone a quarterback. Right. But

442
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: I think if we're talking about somebody who has done

443
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: more in terms of production for his team than anybody

444
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: else and then just value, I don't know how you

445
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: don't give it to time. I hope he gets it,

446
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: you know. Either way, Like like I said, getting in

447
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: the conversation is almost a win in itself, right, I mean,

448
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: you want to get the hardware, but you know, it

449
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, the personal stuff, the

450
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: individual awards, they're always pale in comparison to you know,

451
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: the big Enchilada, right, yeah, the big trophies. And it's

452
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: funny because Jared Goff basically said that same thing about

453
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's attitude towards these kinds of things that you know,

454
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is great, obviously, and both McVeigh and Jared

455
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: Goff said this that they're biased towards Todd Gurley because

456
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: they are on his team. But at the same time,

457
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: like you look at the production right man, like he

458
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: deserves the consideration. But what Goff was saying is that

459
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: Todd probably couldn't care any care less about that. I agree, Wits.

460
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: I agree. He's more focused on getting this team to

461
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: a championship level, no doubt. And this is the old

462
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: argument going all the way back. You know, Tom Brady

463
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: throws it, then Gronk goes like the past travels fifteen yards,

464
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: Gronk travels forty eight for a touchdown, but Brady gets

465
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Speaker 1: the credit. Yeah, Okay, Todd is carrying that rock from

466
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 1: point A to point bright by himself. So I mean,

467
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: when you really get down to it, if it's between

468
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the running back, you should usually take

469
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: the running back. You usually should take the ring back.

470
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of not the way the sport works. Yeah. Well,

471
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: but the other thing, and I've been talking to a

472
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Speaker 1: couple of the guys in the media that we know

473
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Speaker 1: about this. A lot of times voters vote on stats sometimes,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not like they're watching film of everybody

475
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Speaker 1: every week and of putting that together right. And that's

476
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Speaker 1: why I think the two thousand yards from scrimmage and

477
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Speaker 1: the twenty touchdowns is going to be important. If Todd

478
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Speaker 1: Gurley is going to be able to really make a

479
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: case for this award. That's so funny. I was just

480
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: saying that Aaron Donald puts up so he puts up

481
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Speaker 1: great numbers. You don't even have to see him play, right, right, right,

482
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: you don't even have to watch him. You just look

483
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: at the numbers. Tremendous fact that I understand that. You know,

484
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: Darius Slay had two interceptions against the Bears last week.

485
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: He played great football, he did. Yeah, but Aaron Donald,

486
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how he is not the Defensive Player

487
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: of the Week for a performance where you get three

488
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: sacks on Wilson, two tackles for lost, four quarterback hits

489
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Speaker 1: in a force bubble. I heard why he didn't as

490
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Speaker 1: a Player of the Week. I heard why he didn't

491
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: get it. There was a memo that said, there's no

492
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Speaker 1: more room in my wall for plaques, so give it

493
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Speaker 1: to someone else. He hasn't one one this I'm just saying,

494
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: it's just just no more room on the wall. I

495
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: just I just think three sat The way that he

496
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: played in that game was special. He is absolutely a

497
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: wrecking ball um and the guy this week, Jarell Casey

498
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: another guy that's in the same conversation another pull bowler.

499
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: So it's fun. Um, you get to see the best

500
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: on both sides each and every week. But each and

501
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: every week we come away say, and I'd still rather

502
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: have Aaron Donald on my football team than that guy. Yeah,

503
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: that's that's saying a lot when you talk about Fletcher Cox, right, Yeah,

504
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: but Darren Donald is the ultimate game wreck. Oh yeah.

505
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: And it started basically from the first snap. I mean,

506
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did not have time to do anything. And

507
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: anytime you know a team is going to get seven

508
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: sacks in one game, that's that's what that says about it.

509
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: But I think the way Aaron Donald played allowed other

510
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: folks to get sacks. Yeah, Robert Quinn showing up big, yeah,

511
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin, you know, welcome back performance, Michael Brockers chipping in.

512
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys coming up in, Matt Long

513
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: and Sean McVay couldn't wait to tell us that. I

514
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: think what five of those seven sacks came on four

515
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: man rushes. I mean, that's how you know you've got

516
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: a front four that's getting after people. Remind you that's

517
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: on the road, right, that's without the benefit of crowd noise.

518
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: That's just four guys and the other two were five

519
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: men rushes. That's just four or five guys beating the

520
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: tar out of the guys in front of them. That's

521
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: tremendous foot ball up there, right, And that's that's what

522
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, that's that's why I say when

523
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: the players that good on the road in that situation, yes,

524
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: well I thought that really deserves some players. Absolutely, Yes,

525
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you, no doubt. But you brought up Robert

526
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Speaker 1: Quinn and he has definitely come on as of late.

527
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Six sacks in the last four games now has eight

528
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: and a half sacks on the season. That's the most

529
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Speaker 1: he's had since twenty fourteen, when he had ten and

530
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Speaker 1: a half. But what do you think has been the

531
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: difference for him lately? You know, just adjusting. Remember he's

532
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: he's the defensive end that's adjusting to the outside linebacker

533
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: life and roll. It's a little bit different, um. You

534
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: know some of those like as a defensive end, every

535
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: time the quarterbacks dropped back drops back to pass, you're

536
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: in the pass rush. Well, outside linebacker, it may not

537
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: be you, or you may have different responsibilities. First, before

538
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: you go after the quarterback. So it's just a little

539
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: bit different for him. But you know, his first move,

540
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: his dipping rip to the quarterback the last couple of

541
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: weeks has been sharper. He's turning the corner at four.

542
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: That is vintage Robert Quinn. He is getting to the passer,

543
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: so he's forcing those tackles to jump out of there,

544
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: which opens everything else up for say a Aaron Donald

545
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: in the middle. When Aaron Donald wants to take the

546
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: b gap wide, well you better make sure that defensive

547
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: end or outside linebacker isn't there. Are you going to

548
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: have a collision with four guys there two versus your two,

549
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: and no one's going anywhere. So I think they found

550
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: a rhythm with each other, especially when they're playing on

551
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: the same side. So it became a race to the quarterback.

552
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: But when you have your defensive end or outside back

553
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: or going like he's going and Aaron Donald bringing it

554
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: up the middle, I don't care who you are, every

555
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: quarterback's going to feel that. Yes, even if they don't

556
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: get to you're going to feel the pressure. Well that's

557
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: what happened, I think, you know, going back to twenty fourteen,

558
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: which sort of really was the last full healthy season

559
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: that Robert Quinn had. That's the way those two guys

560
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: were working so well in tandem together. Then that's why

561
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: Quinn got ten and a half sacks and you had

562
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald with the thing nine kie yes, because they

563
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: both were collapsing things toward the quarterback. So well, well,

564
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like you said, it's a marriage.

565
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: You have to work together and sometimes you have to understand. Look,

566
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: if Aaron Donald is hot that day and he gets

567
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: into my pass rush lane, well let me take some

568
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: smoke off my rush and just cover him. If he's

569
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: going to the passer out wide, I'll come inside just

570
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: to make sure the quarterback doesn't get out. If he

571
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: gets out, then no one wins. If we keep him

572
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Who knows he's going to get that sack, right,

573
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee Aaron Donald's gonna make the sack when

574
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: he gets there first. The guy could slip out and

575
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: then boom, you'll get the sack. So it's just a

576
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: team effort, and I think they've done a great job

577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks really sewing up those pass

578
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: rush lanes and think about the quarterbacks they've faced, going

579
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz to Russell Wilson and now you've got Mariota.

580
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Guys that can move yeah with the football. So I

581
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: think they've really really sewed it up pass rush wise,

582
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: without limiting their reckless abandon going towards the quarterback. It's

583
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: been tremendous. I think that's that's a great point, the

584
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: fact that you've been able to collapse the pocket rather

585
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: than just letting, I don't know, rushing recklessly, yeah, leaving

586
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: those those run lanes open too. Well. Yeah, you have

587
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: to accept your role, man. I mean, somebody's got to

588
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: stay home. Somebody's got to make sure that this pocket

589
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: stays tight. So it's not going to be ninety nine

590
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: nine is going after the guy. Yeah, Yeah, I mean

591
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: he's just that good. He's gonna win. So somebody on

592
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: the other side or next to him has to be

593
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: that power rusher right down the middle and just keep

594
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that quarterback in the pocket. If he gets out, no

595
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: one wins. If he stays in. Who knows. Even if

596
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't have the best pass rush move that day,

597
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: I could still get the sack. Yeah, But either way,

598
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: when the quarterback goes down, we all win exactly, And

599
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing right now. The Ram's just continuing

600
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: to get that good pass rush because it's gonna be key.

601
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you're talking about playoff football, which we

602
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: are really one more win or any Seattle loss too

603
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: away from officially talking about playoff football, that's what you

604
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: gotta have. You've got to be able to get guys

605
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: after the passer, and the fewer guys you can do

606
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: it with, the better because it leaves you more guys

607
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: to cover in the back end. Absolutely, and look, stopping

608
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: the run is huge too. I mean, if you can

609
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: force teams to be one dimensional, then you can use

610
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: your pass rush to get after him. But you know,

611
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: if they're pounding the ball at you for four and

612
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: a half five yards a clip, then who cares how

613
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: good your pass rushers are, it doesn't matter exactly. Well,

614
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: that's that was one of the things that defensive coordinator

615
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips brought up I'm heading into this game, is

616
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: that he said, you know, they're probably going to try

617
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: to run the football against us because they've seen, you know,

618
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: what our stats are, they've seen the film whatnot. And

619
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: the Rams really shut that down very very well. I

620
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: mean it's not the Seahawks are not a very good

621
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: running team this year. Yeah, they don't have an Alvin Kamara.

622
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: They don't, Yeah, they don't. And Russell Wilson has been

623
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: their biggest rushing threat. And I think anytime you see

624
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a team with a quarterback as theirs as their lead rusher,

625
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to say as their top rushing threat,

626
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, because Russell Wilson always is going to be that, right,

627
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: I think, just like Cam Newton is that fourth Carolina Panthers. Yes,

628
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: but they basically don't really have a running game right

629
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: now other than Russell Wilson. And because of that, you know,

630
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: Russell has had to run around in the backfield play

631
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: backyard football so much. Boy, it sort of makes their

632
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: offense really really want to mention. Oh, no doubt. Anytime

633
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I see your quarterback that's like you're leading rusher, your

634
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: second leading rusher. That just makes me smile. Good, more

635
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: chances to hit him, right Yeah, And that tells me

636
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: you can't really run the ball anyway. So I mean,

637
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: if you do so, every team's gonna try to run.

638
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: But once you sew it up and talk to them

639
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: out of it then it becomes like you said, a turkey, shoot,

640
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: let's just get after the quarterback, right, And that's that

641
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: was one thing that I thought the Rams did really well. Absolutely.

642
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: The other thing we got to talk about is just

643
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the field position that they had throughout that contest, and

644
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of it was via Farrell Cooper. He's really

645
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: really good punt return oh Man. To me, he was

646
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: right all those years ago. He was right. What you

647
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: could tell on the bench that he just wanted to

648
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: be out there, never said a word, he just was

649
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: waiting his turn. Yeah, maybe he was right. I think

650
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: he was definitely, I think so. I mean, wow, he

651
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: is dynamic. He's really dynamic, absolutely dynamic, and basically just

652
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: anytime he's on the field. Yes, you know you can

653
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: see him when he runs the end around sometimes too.

654
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: He's just he's hard to bring down. He has a

655
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: good vision and a good feel for I think what

656
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: he needs to do to be successful. But just those

657
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: those three punt returns that he had that were at

658
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: least twenty six yards, right, you get the first one

659
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: fifty three yards, and I think what he did so

660
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: well on that is just read the blocks because that

661
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily just to play where I don't know, you

662
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: run up the sideline and it's clear and you go.

663
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: He really had to let the blocks get going then

664
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of pick through some of the traffic and then

665
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: he sort of got up the seam and was able

666
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: to get all the way down to inside the one

667
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: yard line before he didn't score. Well, that's the cool

668
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: thing about returners that are disciplined to the return, not

669
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: such a maverick out there. I mean, even if they

670
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: have a man to beat like he does. If he

671
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: has a man to beat, somebody is gets loose, one

672
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: of the gunners gets loose, he'll deal with that guy,

673
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: shake him, and then get back into the return. Because

674
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: everyone up front is blocking for the return, no matter

675
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: what it is, if it's a middle return or sideline return, whatever,

676
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: that's what they're blocking for. So sometimes what returners will

677
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: do and it depending on where the punt goes, they'll convert,

678
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: they'll just take it up the field wherever they are.

679
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: But he is really good at getting back into the

680
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: return and picking up those blocks. Oh yeah, he's a

681
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: he's a smart returner. He's a very very smart return

682
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Also sounds discipline very because yeah, and that's probably why

683
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: these things are working as well as they are. Yeah,

684
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and he's bigger and he's stronger. I mean, yeah, you know,

685
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't like he's unafraid to take a pop. You know.

686
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, punt returners at some point are going to

687
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: get hit. That's the nature of the business. But you

688
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: know he's so big and strong. I mean, that stuff

689
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: doesn't bother him. So field it look up. Okay, where

690
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: where's the guy have to deal with the MDM. You've

691
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: heard of that m? Yeah, the most dangerous man. Okay, Yeah,

692
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: let me deal with the MDM first and then get

693
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: back in the return. Yeah. Let me get back into

694
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: where where my colored jerseys are. Yeah, and then I'll

695
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: make the return from there. And then when he gets

696
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: into the open field, the guys as fast as anybody. Yeah,

697
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: he's a tremendous return guy and much deserving of that

698
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl bid. Yeah. Absolutely, No, It's funny you said

699
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: that punt returners don't want to get pop. So I

700
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: remember watching Browns games growing up and Dennis north Cut

701
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: would return the punts. Huh, and my mom and I

702
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: would be watching it and be like, oh, well, there's

703
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Dennis Northcut. He's going out of bounds so he doesn't

704
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: get hit. Ye really always, really always would go out

705
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: of bounds before he got it. He would, he would

706
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: go down before he got hit. Josh Cribbs was not

707
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: like that though. Jess Cribbs was unafraid to take a

708
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: post because he would deliver one. If they've got you cornered.

709
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's two or three guys out there.

710
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, go ahead and take it out of bounds.

711
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to be tough, all right. And it's

712
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: very easy for me to say this as I've never

713
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: returned returning punts. Seems really scary. But some return guys

714
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: won't attack the middle ever. Yeah, because I'm just not

715
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: going in there. Yeah. Yeah. Ferrell Cooper is not afraid

716
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: to take that thing north at any second. Right. Yeah,

717
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: he'll go right through you if he has to. And

718
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, I asked him after the game,

719
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: where you surprise that they kept kicking to you, because look,

720
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: you get a fifty three yard return, that's one A

721
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of times teams will stop. But sometimes you know,

722
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: you'll be like, no, we got this one, we're going

723
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: to cover it. Well, then they kicked it to him,

724
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: and he returned for twenty six yards, right, yeah, and

725
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: then he returns another one for twenty six yards. After

726
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: you get two of over twenty five, I would have

727
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: to think you're just not going to kick to this guy.

728
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: And then they did it again, and I was like, really,

729
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 1: well you deserve you got a choice. Remember the rams

730
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: of block five kicks. Yeah, you've got a choice to make.

731
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to angle punt, remember bones

732
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Fossil is watching you. If you want to angle punt

733
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: and take away his point returner, well he's gonna put

734
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: heat on that side, yeah, and force you to kick

735
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: it right down the middle where he wants you to.

736
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: So that is the mark of a great special teams

737
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: to where damned if you do, damned if you don't.

738
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: If you try to get it out quick, great, we've

739
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: got a returner. If you want to take your time

740
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: and angle punt, we'll put heat on and we can

741
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: block those. We've shown that we can block. So, Uh,

742
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: those guys on special teams have they've welcomed the challenge

743
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: and they continue to get better at some point. I mean,

744
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: you can have the argument, what's the best group on

745
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: this football team? Offense? Defense, or special team might be special.

746
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah? Yeah, Well, based

747
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: on look what Farrell Cooper is doing in the return game.

748
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: You've got Johnny Hecker when he has to punt, which

749
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: is not that often these days, he's been, you know,

750
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: on pace to maybe set some career highs and net

751
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: average and also in gross average. And then also you know,

752
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: you've got Greg Zerline, who has been as good as

753
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: any kicker in the league and could set the franchise

754
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: record for points in this next game. So your racial

755
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: teams has three Pro Bowlers on it. It does. Offense

756
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: has one, defense has one. Okay, yeah, what's the best unit?

757
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just saying, but I'm glad you brought up

758
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the Pro bowlers because I do want to talk about

759
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: that too. The Rams do have five Aaron Donald, Farrell Cooper,

760
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: as we just mentioned Todd Gurley, of course, I mean

761
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't be a Pro Bowler, what is the

762
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: shut it down? Right, shut it down? And then Johnny

763
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: Hecker a punter, and then Greg Zerline is kickers. So

764
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: those are the five that are already on the team.

765
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: The Rams also have three Pro Bowl alternates. Excuse me

766
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: if he can say it, I know, but that's quarterback

767
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. He's the first alternate. Wow yeah wow yeah

768
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah. Credit to Sean McVay. Yes, he's

769
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: built another one and Matt Laflora and Matt Laflora. Yes,

770
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: he's built another one that I think is actually a

771
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: pretty huge that is off with Carson Wentz his injury,

772
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goff being the first alternate, he would be probably

773
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: the first one probably in the spot correct is more

774
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: than likely going to be in there. But then also

775
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth left tackle, is a first alternate, and cornerback

776
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson is a second alternate. So RAMS could have

777
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: as many as eight guys in the Pro Bowler all deserved,

778
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: all deserved. Yeah, I mean Tremaine Johnson, especially the way

779
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: he's been playing again the run and the past. Yeah,

780
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean he You know, like you talk about shutdown guys,

781
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and usually you talk about guys that go man coverage, UM,

782
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: but I think that rules out guys that play discipline

783
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: defense uh and zone coverage and that are just nightmares

784
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: versus the run. He is all that when it comes

785
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: to to stopping the run. Screen game, very smart yes,

786
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Grahams have been great at defending the screen

787
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: this year. Not just true, but came on Webster for

788
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: his unfortunate injury, and Nickel Roby Coleman I think has

789
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: done as good a job as anybody in the league

790
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: in defending screen. I mean, he's been just a just

791
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: a revelation. He split that double team against Yeah, and

792
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: got into the backfield. He bought him down. He retweeted

793
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: that on his own Twitter page, but I think he

794
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: retweeted his own stat his own play. Yeah, he did. Wow.

795
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Somebody put a video and tagged him in it, and

796
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: he retweeted it, Okay, that's fine. Why is that not fun? No?

797
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: I said that's fine. I said, wasn't it You said

798
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: it with a tone that was No, that wasn't the tone,

799
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: And I said that. He just retweeted, yeah he did. Okay,

800
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with that? Did I say anything was

801
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: wrong with it? No? But your your tone is sort

802
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: of implying I told you I'm not feeling well. You

803
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: could just you could be misinterpreting my tone. What if

804
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: you saw Roger Saffle also had retweeted something of when

805
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: he's you know, dominating two guys on one point, Roger

806
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Staffle wouldn't do that. Um, sorry to disappoint you. I'm

807
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: kidding anyway, I'm kidding anyway, go ahead. He's been great. Yeah,

808
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Roger Staffle, though, I do want to say that I

809
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: if there are Pro Bowl snubs, yeah, that might be one.

810
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I would say, Roger Saffle. That's the first thing I

811
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: looked at, like which guards made it? And when you

812
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: go through them, you're like, okay, yeah, I get it.

813
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: That's that's who were the ins with you? I don't know,

814
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Jack Martin. That's almost tougher to crack than quarterback. Well guard, Yeah, yeah,

815
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty good list. So yeah, and that's

816
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: what you have to I think always do when you're

817
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: talking about snubs, right, like who would you take off? Right,

818
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: as opposed to just saying, oh, well this guy should

819
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: have been you know. But if even if you added

820
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Roger to that list, you would still go, Okay, that's

821
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: that's still a good list. Yeah, that's a great list.

822
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: But that's just it's just tough to crack. It is. Yeah,

823
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: it's tough to crack. But I think that his standing

824
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: season is to be commended because no doubt he has

825
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: had a really good season. Also, me, I watched this

826
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: watch some of those Todd Gurley touchdown runs or touchdown receptions.

827
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: I bet you see Roger Saffle in the video about

828
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: a half dozen times, possibly more. Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah,

829
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: like that fifty seven yard test that Todd had on Sunday.

830
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: Look it was it was Roger Saffle passing off the

831
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: double team to on Sheldon Richardson to John Sullivan center

832
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: and then Saffle just goes up. He blocked Earl Thomas

833
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: and boom, Todd Ware we go right yep. So yes,

834
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: Roger Saffold has done an excellent job in space this year,

835
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: and I think playing between Whitworth and Sullivan has allowed

836
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Saffle to basically do what he does best. Yeah, and

837
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: just be a guard. Yeah yeah, period, not a swing tackle,

838
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: just be a left guard. He's been tremendous, right Yeah.

839
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: And it's funny. I remember when Sean McVeigh was hired,

840
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, looking at Roger Staffold, you

841
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: basically almost couldn't find him because in the last I know,

842
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: six seven games, he was basically played four different positions. Yeah,

843
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: just playing all over the line, I mean, left tackle,

844
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: left guard, right, tackle at some point. So now I

845
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: think just having him be able to settle into one spot.

846
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: And the Rams have been very fortunate on the health

847
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: front that they have had fourteen games Oh yeah, the

848
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: same five start up front on the offensive line. And

849
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: they're the only team the NFL that's been able to

850
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: say that. So that's definitely part of it. And anytime

851
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: you talk about that with any particular football team, most

852
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: of those teams are really good. Yep, yeah, yeah, that's

853
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: usually where it starts. Exactly what maybe one more snub

854
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: if you will. LaMarcus Joiner, Oh god, huge, Yeah, yeah, huge.

855
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: Another guy that doesn't get enough credit for what he

856
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: does and what he's doing. I told you it's funny.

857
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, a guy is a hard hitter when every

858
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: time he makes contact, the first thing he does is

859
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: get up and look for a flat Yes, yeah, that's

860
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: a hard hitter. Yeah yeah. And he's he's every bit

861
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: of that, and he's he's not the biggest guy in

862
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: the world's but the guy plays with just such passion

863
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: on the goal line. It's worse. I mean, he comes

864
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: downhill and he's going hell bet for leather. He is

865
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: really trying to Knocktor before he knocked himself out. Was

866
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: that in the preseason Yeah? Against Yeah, yeah, did I

867
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: show you that? Yeah? Oh my god. The guy it's

868
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: like he ran right into a brick wall full speed

869
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: and didn't break stride at all. Yeah. Yeah, that's the

870
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: way he plays exactly, tremendous well. And that was what

871
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: he did on that first drive, you know, the ram

872
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: seventh the opening drive takeaway, which I think is really remarkable.

873
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what the record on that is. I

874
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: hope a lot of Sports bureau or somebody. I'm not

875
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: even sure if there's a stat that yet. Yeah, because

876
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: that that to me is really really incredible. Um. But yeah,

877
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joinner basically just comes downhill, puts a form tackle

878
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: on Taryner mcinvoy and boom balls out. Yep. And that,

879
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: to me, that was really one of the biggest tone

880
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: setters in that game. Yn't let Russell Wilson and all

881
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: those guys know on the Seattle sideline, this is not

882
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: going to be an easy day for you. I had

883
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun watching LaMarcus and then watching Earl Thomas,

884
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: just watching those two guys, you know, make plays, make plays,

885
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: make plays, and it was similar it was very, very similar.

886
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: If that's the best in the game, well then this

887
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: guy over here is not too far off. Yeah, so

888
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: at some point maybe LaMarcus gets his due, but another

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: guy like Todd Gurla could care less about the personal

890
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: individual awards. This guy wants to win, yes, he wants

891
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: to win games, yes, and it's it's interesting. Wade Phillips

892
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: talked about this too recently that when they came in,

893
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: they were watching film and you see LaMarcus Joiner and

894
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: it's like, man, you got to figure out a way

895
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: to get this guy on the field as much as possible.

896
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: And I think Wade Phillips made this joke two weeks ago.

897
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: It was basically like, okay, yeah, obviously that's why we

898
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: wanted to move him to safety, and he said, yeah,

899
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: we watched Hard Knocks too, so we know, Wow, that's funny,

900
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Yeah yeah, crazy. Yeah. So I don't know,

901
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that was overblowner was

902
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: not in the Hard Knocks film. Which one are you

903
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: talking about? LaMarcus like miss practice and just I'd rather

904
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: work at Walmart? Yeah, okay, yeah, sometimes things are like

905
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: oh no, that seemed a little TV ish. I think

906
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: that's probably LaMarcus Joyner's way of saying, what the hell

907
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: are you guys doing well? Right? And I think that's

908
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: what we'd Philip to say. We see it, we get it,

909
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: we see you, We want you on the field right

910
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: right before we do get to some stuff about the Titans.

911
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I do want to bring this up because you and

912
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I were talking about this before the show. One of

913
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: my favorite things that I saw over the weekend from

914
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: the NFL was the Cam Newton Clay Matthews. Oh my god,

915
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: watch the Will Route on Sunday. Yes, yeah, Clay Matthews

916
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: is saying, and I hope you guys have seen this

917
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's hilarious. Hey, Will Route. Yeah, Matthew says that.

918
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton says, oh, you were watching film. Huh. Clay's like, yeah,

919
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I watched film too. Cam goes all right, watch this ready,

920
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: that's it. And then you get, um, oh, gosh, what's

921
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: that man's name McCarthy. Isn't that what his name is? McCaffrey.

922
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: God's gracious, it's okay, all right, Christian McCaffrey. Yes, gets um.

923
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: He actually runs the slant out of the backfield and

924
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: and just and that's how the Panthers score touchdown. I

925
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: love that. I love that thing where you can kind

926
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: of see that trash talk on back. I want to

927
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: see more of that. I want to see more of it.

928
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: It was great that the field Mikes pick that up. Yeah,

929
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: because you don't see that in that often. Well, some

930
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: stuff you just can't use, thank god. I mean you

931
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: mean like when Matt Ryan says, get bleeping set, and yeah,

932
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: some some of that stuff you just can't use. But yeah, exactly. Yeah,

933
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: that was my maybe my second favorite. That stuff is great.

934
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: That areas right. I think there was a tweet. It

935
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: was like a little meme. It was basically like a

936
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Julio saying, oh hey, mohamma, where do you want to

937
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: go get dinner after this game? He's like, I don't know,

938
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking Sizzler And then you see that right

939
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: getting set? Oh god? What was the other one? Um?

940
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: This was way back? Was it hassleback? We want the

941
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: ball and we're gonna score? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we

942
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: want the ball. We're going to score. Yeah yeah, yeah,

943
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: great job, right, go, but this is gonna be an

944
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: interesting game. I think this week against the Titans, we

945
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: brought this up a little bit earlier, just the fact

946
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: that they're a team that and they've said this to

947
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: the media, they're kind of in playoff mode right now. Yeah,

948
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: because if you don't win this game, and you don't

949
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: win the next game, you're really looking at probably an

950
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: eight and eight season and probably being on the outside

951
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: looking in at the playoffs. True. Um, there's there's a downside.

952
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody ever talks about this, there

953
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: is a downside to like that playoff mode. Now. Is

954
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: you play tight? Yeah? Yeah, you play tight. You play

955
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: not to lose. Great. I like it when teams play tight. Um,

956
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: I'd rather be the team that that's playing loose, that's

957
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: just having fun playing ball versus everything's on the line. Yeah. Um,

958
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: But either way, Tennessee is a good football team. Uh.

959
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: They can beat you. Uh. Defensively, they are tremendous. They

960
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: are multiple. They get more run throughs than any other

961
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: defense I have seen this year. You know what I

962
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: mean by run throughs. Don't they blitz a lot. They

963
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: get people home Scott free, they beat the protection. They

964
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: get more run throughs than just about anybody. And offensively speaking,

965
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean DeMarco Murray has made his whole career on

966
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: beating rams have really Yeah. Now, I remember the twenty

967
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: fourteen game. I wasn't around for the twenty when he

968
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: broke Emmitt Smith's record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

969
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: think it's something like four hundred and twenty five yards

970
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: in two games. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous

971
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: his production. And Henry is just a monster, and Marcus

972
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Mariota is tough, and Sean McVeigh will tell you, I

973
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: mean he is really a big fan of the Lanny Walker.

974
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean they're tough offensively, but defensively speaking, they are

975
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: very multiple and they can ruin your day. Well, they

976
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: have Dick Lebau, longtime defensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

977
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: known for that zone blitzing concepts that he's always putting

978
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: out there. And so now he is with the Sennessey Titans,

979
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: as I don't even know if he's there, particularly their

980
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or like senior defenses whatever he wants to

981
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: be exactly, he is the one that's coaching that defense. Yes,

982
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: eighty years old, Yeah, can you believe that? Yes, eighty

983
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: years old and still coaching in the league. How old

984
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: is Wade Phillips seventy. That's what I'm Yes, I can

985
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah, I see it. Yeah, that's gonna be in.

986
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: That's I think that's kind of an underrated aspect of

987
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: this game too. The most senior defensive coaches in the

988
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: entire National Football League who have been in this league

989
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: for decades on decades, and they you really can't present

990
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: anything on offense that those guys have nots No, And

991
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: when you watch them and when you hear them and

992
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: when you see them coach, you would know how old

993
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're they're eighty years

994
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: seventy years in like normal years, but in football terms,

995
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: they're twenty five, thirty five, thirty five years old in

996
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: terms of their energy, and they absolutely bring it and

997
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: they can communicate very well with today's players. Yeah, I

998
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: mean they know what makes guys go, and they know

999
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: how to get defenses organized and ready to go. So

1000
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: both defenses are very very disciplined and can really really

1001
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: good after you, right, what do you see from Marcus Mariota,

1002
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: Because if you just look at the numbers, it seems

1003
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: like he's taken a bit of a step back. No,

1004
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with hamstring injury this year. Choose so,

1005
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: But there's only one game in his last six where

1006
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: he's thrown for more than one touchdown pass multiple touchdown passes.

1007
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: What are you seeing from him? Well? Yeah, his last

1008
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: week as far as passer rating was his best in

1009
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah. Yeah, So the entire offense has been

1010
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of hit or miss, but it's a run bay defense.

1011
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: But just out of him. The faster the tempo, the

1012
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: better he looks. Right. Yeah, they did run a lot

1013
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of no huddle last week against the San Francisco forty

1014
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: nine ers, particularly in the second half. Yeah, that was

1015
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: interesting when you speed it up. I mean, it seems

1016
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: like it suits his game a little bit better. Yeah.

1017
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that could the injury or just how the complexion

1018
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: or the personality of his offense this year. But yeah,

1019
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: when he starts to change tempo um, he gives defenses problems.

1020
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: And remember, when you have it all sewed up defensively,

1021
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: he can still move exactly. So he creates just as

1022
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: much of a threat as a Russell Wilson as a

1023
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz when he breaks contain well, I think that's

1024
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: sort of the tempo thing. Going up tempo I think

1025
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: that goes back to his time at Oregon, you know,

1026
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: where they're running up tempo stuff and he's always in

1027
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: the mix. That was ridiculous tempo, right, yeah, but but

1028
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: I think it sort of speaks to that, you know, yeah,

1029
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: and it's it's not the same kind of deal because

1030
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: when they're at Oregon, you're getting the plays more or

1031
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: less from the sideline. And from what I was reading

1032
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: this week, it seems like Mariotto is more ca calling

1033
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: the shots at the line himself. And I wish I

1034
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: could remember who said this quote, but I read it

1035
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: from Cameron Wolf of ESPN dot com. Basically, the Titans

1036
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: players were saying, you know, it's good when Marcus calls

1037
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: the shots at the line because we get lined up right,

1038
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: he knows what he's looking at, he makes the reading boom,

1039
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: we're going right. So that's how sort of Tennessee was

1040
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: able to come back early in that second half against

1041
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Well, I mean, you think after gosh, almost

1042
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: how many years as a starter now, Marcus, yeah, he's

1043
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: this is his third years. Yeah, I mean, he should

1044
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: take a lot of ownership in the office. He should

1045
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: be able to call his own stuff. It's and it's

1046
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: been the same offense basically throughout because Blocky was the

1047
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there. Then they dismissed Wizzen Hunt in Marcus's

1048
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: rookie year, Malarkey moved up into interim head coach and

1049
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: he's been the head coach ever since. The best thing

1050
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: about I love tempo offenses or hurry up offenses is

1051
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: you know if you do stop them, they can go

1052
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: three and out in a blink. Right, Yeah, that was

1053
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: that was the thing about chip Kelly's office. Oh, Yelphia,

1054
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: they can go three and out in the blink, and

1055
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean you'll win time of possession. But with Delanney

1056
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: Walker the way he's playing and the way they're running

1057
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: the football, Um, staying on the field is something they

1058
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: really need to do and something they did against San Francisco.

1059
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: They had a chance, they had that game. They just

1060
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: let it get away at the end. They did that

1061
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: was theirs to win. And how do you what they

1062
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: used to say, snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yes,

1063
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: that counts with them last week. So um, that's that's

1064
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: a confident offense and they're going to be at their

1065
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: best this Sunday. No doubt they have to be. Yeah.

1066
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: I want to mention this briefly though, Jimmy Garoppolo though

1067
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: in that game, you know because of the matchup that

1068
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: that's not going to be an easy game for the

1069
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: RAM If you're still playing their starters against the San

1070
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine, is because he's playing so much just

1071
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: for fun. I mean, we're one day at a time,

1072
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: one week at a time, just like the football team.

1073
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: But just look at next year's NFC West fool baby boy, Yeah,

1074
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. Fun, yeah, because you get some

1075
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: you get some couple of weapons around Jamie Garoppolo. Oh yeah,

1076
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: he's been playing lately. Man. That depending on what Arizona

1077
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: does too at quarterback. Well boy, yeah, yeah, yeah, this

1078
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. It's gonna be It's gonna be

1079
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: a tough division. Um, that's gonna be for sure. Um. So,

1080
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you a couple wacky questions. Okay, ready,

1081
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: go ahead, if they're not really that wacky, Okay, all right,

1082
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: did you see Star Wars yet? No? Oh, are you

1083
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: dying to talk about it a little bit? We weren't

1084
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: really going to talk about it that anyway, because there

1085
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: are probably people who have not seen it. I saw it.

1086
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was excellent, great, don't say anything. No,

1087
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: that's all I can say. I've stayed away from everything.

1088
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: How have you been able to Just? When? Are you

1089
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: going to see it this weekend? When we're in Tennessee. Absolutely,

1090
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: there's no way you're going to see it when we're

1091
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I am, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

1092
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: guaranteed Saturday morning, guaranteed the only time that you're going

1093
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: to do it. I would I would assume it would

1094
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: be like next week. Almost knew this weekend. Okay, yeah.

1095
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Just being a good family man, I had to, you know,

1096
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: sacrifice not going to that movie. Okay, yeah, all right,

1097
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Well good for you. I don't want to ruin it

1098
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: for the other Star Wars fans by bringing a two

1099
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: and a half year old to the movies. Oh no,

1100
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: that's fair, exactly. So I'll wait. Okay, yeah, yeah, but

1101
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: I did see it. I saw it last Thursday night.

1102
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why I saw it because the

1103
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: two years ago, twenty fifteen, if you remember, the Rams

1104
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: were playing the Buccaneers on December fifteenth, right, So that

1105
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: was the mustard ketchup. Game. The rams were oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

1106
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: That was also the day the Star Wars came out.

1107
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sitting in the press box and I'm covering

1108
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: the game and you know, doing my job, and somebody

1109
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: puts in my mentions. Oh, biggest plot point. I won't

1110
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: say it because you can say it now if you

1111
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: haven't sent it by now. Yeah. So somebody tweeted me

1112
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Han Solo dies in the middle of Thursday night. You

1113
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: should be arrested for that. Yeah, that's just so obviously.

1114
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: I blocked them immediately. Good and but I was so mad, like,

1115
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: who does that? A person? Are you in order to

1116
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: do something like that? I'm a pretty big Star Wars fan.

1117
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: You're not going to do this to me, are you.

1118
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: You're not going to tell me anything about this, But

1119
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. So. That's why I saw the movie

1120
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: last Thursday at thirty Pacific. Nice, so that I could

1121
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: make sure that I saw it spoiler free. Nice. Okay,

1122
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: But you enjoyed it. I did. I greatly enjoyed it great,

1123
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: I know. It's what's weird to me is that some

1124
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: people didn't enjoy it. Some people did, and you know

1125
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: they have their reason care less about the people that didn't. Right, Yeah,

1126
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: I think I think you'll like it good. I like

1127
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: them all, yeah, even the ones that people hate. I

1128
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: like them all, like one, two, and three. Jar jar

1129
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: Banks is cool with me. See, I like them all.

1130
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I can care less what each r. Jar Banks is

1131
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: cool with you. He's in the Star Wars universe. Yes,

1132
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: he's very cool. Okay, thank you very much. Right well, also,

1133
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: Christmas is coming up. Yes, I'll be on Monday. Still

1134
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: not done shopping? Rams not rams play Christmas Eve? How

1135
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: are you not done shopping? Because when I go Christmas shopping,

1136
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: I have to bring the family with me. So how

1137
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: do I shop for them with them? Why do you

1138
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: have to bring the family with you if you're going

1139
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping for them? Clearly this man is single. Yeah,

1140
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: this is okay, Yes, this is very very true. Yes,

1141
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: so dads know what I'm talking about. It's hard to

1142
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: shop for them with them. Well, I'm obviously it's hard

1143
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: to shop for them with them. But like, don't you

1144
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: get like today for instance, you know, with the kids,

1145
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: aren't you gonna stop? Can you stop on the way home? No, God, no,

1146
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: I gotta go back home. Come on, I don't get.

1147
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: So this is why Brett Farve never wanted to retire. Yes,

1148
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: so it would have to be at home exactly. Right.

1149
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you know, you open,

1150
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: you give I don't know you have a sixteen year old, right, yes,

1151
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: you give your daughter a gift because the baby is

1152
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: probably too young for this. But she opens it and

1153
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: she's like, oh this is great. No no, no with her,

1154
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I to the list. Yeah, and she's good about giving lists.

1155
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: I think she gave us her Christmas list in July. Wow. Yeah.

1156
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: And I don't mean just to us, I mean to

1157
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: grandparents too. So she wants she basically so it sounds

1158
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: like your daughter wants everything to be coordinated between you guys. Yes,

1159
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: so that, and she wants to give you guys enough time,

1160
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: Like if it's in June, she's giving you all right, hey,

1161
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: six months from now, you guys better have this all

1162
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: worked out exactly so that I get what I want

1163
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: on Christmas and we coordinate. Where do you getting? Where

1164
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: are you getting? Yeah? Okay, this is what I'll get.

1165
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: So when she opens it, guaranteed to be happy. I

1166
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, no surprises, no surprises, none. Yeah, play

1167
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: it safe. What about you though, where has there ever

1168
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: been a time where you open a gift and you're like,

1169
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: this is great underwear, way back when my grandmother, God

1170
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: rest her soul. Yeah that's it. Yeah, pack of underwear,

1171
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: couple packs of underwear, couple packs, couple of packs. Yeah yeah,

1172
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was right on the money. I guess

1173
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: I need them, you know, I mean, who doesn't need underwear?

1174
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: But I guess. I mean this is back when I

1175
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: was getting like getting toys, you know, like lots of toys. Yeah,

1176
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: she gave me underwear. Okay, yeah, yeah, that probably was disappointing.

1177
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: I think there were a size too big too. Oh wow, yeah,

1178
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: like you'll grow into the it's the it's a good

1179
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: gift practical, but you know, right, yeah, I think, yeah,

1180
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: I think the one time this happened. And I hope

1181
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't think any of my real high school friends

1182
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: like listening to this podcast, so oh wow, I'm gonna

1183
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell this story. Okay, but there was somebody say,

1184
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, you have friends at high school and you

1185
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: do sort of a little gift exchange or whatever. It's

1186
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: like fine, but there was somebody one of my friends

1187
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: gave me footy pajamas with a drop seat, so you

1188
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: know you can you know, use the facility. Wow, that's wow. Yeah.

1189
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: And like I opened it and I was like what okay, yeah,

1190
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: and you know it was like red. It was like

1191
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: plaid red and yeah, exactly exactly. It wasn't part of

1192
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: a get like like a gag at all. It was

1193
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: like a real gift. It was a real gift, like

1194
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: a thoughtful gift. Miles would like, I think, yeah, so

1195
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: it's funny because I brought this up with another Like,

1196
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: I didn't bring this up with a friend that gave

1197
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: them to me, but I brought this up with another

1198
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: couple of my friends that I still talk to you more.

1199
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: And one of them was like, oh I approved that.

1200
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, so now I know who

1201
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: to blame. Yeah, that's probably the worst gift that that's

1202
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: two ex friends. Yeah. Don't you ever give me footy pajamas?

1203
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I was just what is the

1204
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: utility of this? This is not well the real did

1205
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: you ever wear them? I wore them. One's a good

1206
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: gift if you put it on, it's a good gift. No, no, no, no, no,

1207
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: they're off the hook there. You put them on. I

1208
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: put them one out of respect. I was like, maybe

1209
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. You still have them? Hell no, what'd

1210
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: you do with them? I don't know. I think actually

1211
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: they could be in my mother's house. If you wore them,

1212
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: that's a good gift. If you put them on, run,

1213
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: put it on once ward for maybe thirty to forty

1214
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: five seconds, and took it right back off. Did anyone

1215
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: see you with them on? Absolutely? Okay? Absolutely? Not okay,

1216
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: all right, you know you know what I was just saying,

1217
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: just saying, if you put them on, that's a good

1218
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: do I see, like the kind of seem like the

1219
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: kind of person to you who is not vain? Very true?

1220
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: That's true, right, that's true. That's true. Carly Simon wrote

1221
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: the song about me, that's very I am so vain

1222
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: and I probably think the song. But if you wore them,

1223
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: if you put them on, models different to try them,

1224
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: just to make sure I wasn't wrong, Okay, and I

1225
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: was not wrong. But if you weren't wrong, would you

1226
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: keep him? If I I But there was no way

1227
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: I was not. I was going to be you know, wow, Wow?

1228
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Where did you open this gift at home or in

1229
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: front of them? No? It was in front of them,

1230
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: so I had to like pretend that I liked it.

1231
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Can you please show me that face? Oh? Oh whoa wow,

1232
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's funny. That is so funny. Lisa

1233
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: wasn't from the Warrenstop collection anyway, Oh my god. Moving on, Yeah,

1234
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: moving on. So this is a game now as we

1235
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: wrap things up, that the Rams have a chance to clinch. Yeah.

1236
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: He told the story last week about how you know

1237
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: they were passing out the hats and you didn't know

1238
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be asked about this all week. You know,

1239
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: how do you feel that you're going to be able

1240
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: to clinch? How do you stay focused in the moment um?

1241
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: You forget all that stuff, You forget about the T

1242
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: shirts and hats, and you just just watch the film.

1243
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Man offensively Jared Goff Todd Gurley. I mean, I bet

1244
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: after you watch what they did to San Francisco and

1245
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: what they did to Arizona in a losing effort, and

1246
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: what they've done in their victories is enough to say,

1247
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll shelve the the clinching talk until

1248
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I deal with this this beast I have in front

1249
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: of me. First, that defense can fly. They can get

1250
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: absolutely good after you and look defensively, speaking from the

1251
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Rams defensive perspective, Marcus Mariota is a tough guy to

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Speaker 1: bring down, just like Russell Wilson. Yeah, he can scramble

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Speaker 1: around with the best. So there's there's a lot there

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Speaker 1: to worry about with Tennessee before you start worrying about

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Speaker 1: clinching and putting hats on and posing for pictures with

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Speaker 1: a championship sweater on. It's a little bit different. So

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Speaker 1: you have to focus on playing your best game on

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Speaker 1: the road. Remember you are going there on Christmas Eve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be rough. That's a that's a tough part

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Speaker 1: of your schedule that no one ever talks about. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's tough emotionally. You're away from your family for

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Some people might like that. Most people will

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Speaker 1: hate that. Now, most people will definitely hate that. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to deal with there. So deal with

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Speaker 1: what you have to deal with. First, take care of

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and then look, the rest will take care of

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Speaker 1: itself absolutely. All right, Well, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fun one, guys. I do hope that you have a

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Speaker 1: very happy holiday season and a very Merry Christmas. So

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Speaker 1: from to Mark go far, I'm Miles Simmons, with thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning into between the Horns. We'll see you next time.