1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Nightingales notes USA Today Insider FT Insider Bomb Nightingale swinging 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: back with us. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to the headliner, Bob. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Percentage chance that you think Derek Scoogle is on a 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: different team early next week, and what those teams on 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: the high list could look like right now in your 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: mind that would give up a big package and take them. 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: I think about eighty percent chance, if not a little higher. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: I just think that the way they have played, being 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, six games under five hundred, so they have 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: no choice. I think they're going to try to thread 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: the needle here and say, you know what, tall teams 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: will trade them, but we need to start back that 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: can fit in rotation right now and get some help 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: in the future. I think they're going to try to 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: do both ways because they don't want to upset the 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: fan base. They don't want to upset the club, the 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: players in the clubhouse. I think they should keep them 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: because I think that rotation scary. But I think they 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: kind of desperate to make sure they get something out 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: of them, so I think you're gonna move them, but 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: I do think it gets the major league's return. I 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 3: still think the Dodgers are number one fit Uh. Remember 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: now he's still got nine and a half million bucks 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 3: in that payroll. I'm in his contract. That's tough to uh, 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: you know for a lot of teams to pay the Dodgers. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: I think they need the guy, I mean Otani. Now 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: it said last night he's got a bicep problem. You know, 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: where do you know about his knee problem? So you 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: really can't count him in the postseason. So you got Yamamoto. 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Snells only pitch three innings all year? 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: Uh? 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Sasaki? You know he's not a given you know what, 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: you can get a glass now, Robleski. Uh, you know 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: it's already passes. Uh, you know, career high innings. So 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: I'll go Dodgers one Atlanta to uh Tampa three Milwaukee four? 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: Wow. Wow. 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: Okay, that was my question. Where do you think he 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: ends up? Apparently l A. Why wouldn't Why why would 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: the Rays or Brewers not do this? Is it simply 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: because of the rental situation and he's only possibly going 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: to be there for one year and they don't want 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: to give up what they would need to give up? 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: Is that why you don't see the Rays or Brewers 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: making a huge splash, because those are the teams with 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 4: the best records right now. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: No great. I mean I think the Rays will be 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: in and unfor sure. I think they might be more 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: aggressive in Milwaukee. The Brewers just have never done this. 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they got the top farm system or you know, 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 3: top three. If I'm the Brewers, I'd do it. Pair 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: him with Menzerowski as a scare rotation, and they're not 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: gonna have a chance to knock out the Dodgers less 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: they move make a move like this. You know another 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: you know, teams are talking about Parolta, but pretty parra Alta. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: You know, you know, nice pitcher, but he's not care 57 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: at schoolball. I would love to see that Brewers go 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: all in and finally get over the hump and get 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: back to the World Series. Man, but nineteen eighty two 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: a long long. 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 6: Time, Bob, you said eighty percent, What on earth would 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 6: happen for the twenty percent? Nobody gives them more than 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: what they'd get back from a qualifying offer. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: But I think the America League is just so bad. 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, I think that they face the A's 66 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: after this, they go to Sacramento. You know what, if 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: they're even in the wild card and race only what 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 3: three back in the lost column or right there? Uh, 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: and kind of looking around, maybe they say, you know what, 70 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: let's go with this guy. I think they got a 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: great rotation. My stays healthy. They can knock off anybody. 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's different than the National League because nationally 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: you still got to go up against the Dodgers, Phillies, Brewers, Atlanta. 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: The America League, who you got to go up against, 75 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: there's nobody that scares you. You know, probably the most 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: powerful team in the America League right now, it's proably 77 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: the Red Sox. 78 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: All Right, Mason Miller. 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: We if we're doing percentages, what's the percentage chance that 80 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: they that they trade Mason Miller? But the Padres aren't 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 6: cashing it in because Prowler never cashes it in. 82 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: No, but it's got a new ownership coming in. You're 83 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: drawing more than three million fans a year. I think 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: maybe fifteen or twenty percent chance if they do. They 85 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: got to get some pitches, return starts, a return get 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: you only got about two starters. So I would do 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: it because I think a lot of times, you know, 88 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: he's been a kind of wasted this year. He's got 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: a couple of times this year. But he's gotten you know, 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: five days without pitching, six days up pitching, and we 91 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: have an elite closing like this, you got to use them. 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: So uh, you know, I think they end up keeping 93 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: them just because same thing. I mean, all they got 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: to do is beat out Pittsburgh and uh in Arizona 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: for that last walk Ard spot. With the way the 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: Phillips has struggled, you might even get the number five 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: seed instead of the sixth seed. 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: Wow, what does it? What does a deal for Mason 99 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: Miller look like? We know what they had to give 100 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: up to get him, is it would they be looking 101 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: for if it did happen the same type of return 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: that they had to give up to get Mason Miller 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 4: from Sacramento, they would. 104 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: I just don't see eighteen getting him. I mean giving 105 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: up like that, that was a ton they gave up. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't seen, you know, a package like 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: that since the one Soto deal that the National has 108 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: got from San Diego. So even when San Diego flipped them, 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: they didn't get the same return. I think, same thing here. 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: They're not gonna get back what they gave up to 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: Oakland or gave up to the Age to begin with. 112 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 6: If Mason's not really available or most likely not available 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 6: without a big haul, who's that next best closer that's 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: available because teams are looking for that position. 115 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they could trade on Moro hon and uh, 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: you can go that way. The setup guy. I mean, uh, 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: he's a lefty. Every team could use them, but fasos 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: Dodgers in the in the playoffs, you know, Dodgers went 119 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 3: fi their top seven guys or left handed otherwise, you know, 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: it drops off O'Brien. Maybe with Saint Louis. 121 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 7: Uh. 122 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: I think you know we're talking about you know, Harper's 123 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: comments in Pulley before you know we're talking last week. 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: I think Hoffman Jeff Abmin would make a lot of 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: sense there. He was with them before. They like him. 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: He knows everybody there. But I could see Hoppin, you know, 127 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: at least be a setup guy for Duran in Philadelphia. 128 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, closers are going to be popular, Bob, But 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: closers are going to be popular. I'm gonna go to 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: my favorite team. We all know who this is, the 131 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: White Sox. Will the White Sox actually do something? I've 132 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: heard they're really going to be aggressive. They're really going 133 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: to try. But will they make the big splash. They 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: are in first place, the American League is down. Will 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: the White Sox really go for it? 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: They won't, just because they've gone to the thanks a lot. 137 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: But when you think about it, you know, if they 138 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: go for it and trade with their top prospects, it 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: doesn't work out in the same position they were in. 140 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: Got two guys fired already over that. So if there's 141 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: a picture available and you know, just take this contract 142 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: and not give up much, so I'll do it. I 143 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: can't see them giving up a top ten prospect unless 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: it's like you get a redet Meers or showing you 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: know that's already got two and a half years of control. 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: I just don't think they'll go all in just for 147 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: a rental. Yeah, yeah, I think they make the playoffs. 148 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: They don't want a playoff game. It's an unbelievable season. 149 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: I think there'll sell more season tickets next year anyway. 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: But I just don't see them giveaway prospects just just 151 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: to go for it this year. 152 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 6: Is there anything saying that they wouldn't take on you said, 153 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 6: you said possibly, if they get somebody, they'd be taking 154 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: on somebody's contract. It Pittures contract, Like, is there a 155 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 6: possibility that there's some money there for Jerry to allow 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: Chris Getz to spend. 157 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: I think there's definitely money there. I think their attendance 158 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: is up at least projected to be up four hundred 159 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: and five hundred thousand over over what they thought at 160 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: least over a year ago. And there's gonna some more 161 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: season tickets next year too, just because you know, the 162 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: team got Pivo excited. So there's so many money in there. 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: I think they got the third lowest payroll. They just 164 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: don't want to give up the prospects. But like you'll say, ah, 165 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: you know Array of the Giants. You know he's making 166 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: twenty family of a year. 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That's m A C K W E L 185 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: d O N dot com code f o U L. 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: And then what other teams, Bob, since you broke my 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: heart in the White Sox, what other teams are all talked? 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 4: Then you're saying that the White Sox aren't going to 189 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: do anything. Brewers raise braves. Some of these teams, which 190 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: are these other mariners? Which of these teams are all 191 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: talked to need help? And they're just like the White 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: Sox break break my heart some more, Bob. 193 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: Well, it is different. I mean, Seattle, it's a complete 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: disaster if you don't make the playoffs. I mean, what 195 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: a waste of a pitching staff again. And then I 196 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: think people's jobs are on the line. I think they 197 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's the manager, where's the GM. I 198 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: think they got to make the mom to get a bat. 199 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 3: No choice with the rais no big deal. They you know, 200 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: nobody expect the Raised to be in this position. I 201 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: think the Raised internal projections were ninety wins. But you know, uh, 202 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: they don't have to make that big move. I think 203 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: Atlanta would love to get our starter. They had their 204 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: eyes on Sunny Gray before the Red Sox got hot. 205 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure Scooba fits in with them. But 206 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: you know some other guys would for sure, you know, 207 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: they'll go after read det Mers or something like that. 208 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: But neil uh a Pralta. But I'm not sure you 209 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: know that Atlanta says we got to go get Schooble. 210 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they believe that there should be all 211 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: in either. 212 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 6: You said, the Brewers just don't do that. They don't 213 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 6: go all in for a Tereric scouble. What is all 214 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 6: in for the Brewers? What type of move or who 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: is that type of move in that category for the Brewers? 216 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see him. If you don't get a 217 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: you know Schooball, you know, getting someone like a uh, 218 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure, you know, getting at least a 219 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: Rodney and Ray getting another reliever. I think they got 220 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: to get and get in their beat. If they could 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: go get a big bat. I don't know if maybe 222 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: it's a Versha a Hoffin combination from Toronto or something 223 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: like that, but you know, their last in the league 224 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: and home runs, they could use another late anyone leave 225 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: for sure, and they definitely need their starter if they're 226 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: giving you serious about taking out the Dodgers. 227 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: Boh, the Brewers? What would be? How would the fans 228 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: react if they do this again and they don't. I 229 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: mean it's been twenty eighteen, they finally they did win 230 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: a playoff series last year. You mentioned nineteen eighty two. 231 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: They haven't been to the World Series. There you said 232 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: the Mariners could be a wasted year if they don't 233 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: make it. Is the Brewers. Do you start looking at 234 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: the Brewers as wasting years of this team that has 235 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: been so special. I know they keep turning it over 236 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: and they keep winning, but if they don't ever do 237 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: it and they never make it to that World Series, 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: do you consider it them wasting years? Also? 239 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: Because they're so so young. It's not like I said, 240 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: your Dodgers got to win now because the team get older, 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: or like the Phillies have got to win now. I 242 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: think what happened would helped them in big time last year, 243 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: just the fact then knocked off the Cubs in the playoffs. 244 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: I was there for Game five to set a game. 245 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: You would have thought they won the World Series. You 246 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: knew they weren't going to be the Dodgers because they 247 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: spend all their energy just knocking off the Cubs. So 248 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: you know this year what they're supposed to win eighty 249 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: three the four games back in the playoffs. Again, they 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: could end up with the best record in baseball. So 251 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: I think they I didn't think I at least get 252 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: the NLCS. Then I think the fans would be happy. 253 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: But I think the fans would go, you know, absolutely 254 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: ballistic if they got a guy like Scooba. Uh, but 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, they sell so many tickets anyway, It's not 256 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: like they're gonna have a huge jumping season ticket sales. 257 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: But it was certainly exact a fan base, and of 258 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: course everybody in that club goes. 259 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 6: You mentioned the Phillies window. Essentially you said the window 260 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 6: is closing for this team. How aggressive and what moves 261 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 6: do you feel like are in store for Dave Dombrowski 262 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: and the Phillies. 263 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: But they got to get another reliever. You know, losing 264 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: miss Keller was huge to them, So they got to 265 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 3: get a setup guy for Duran and they got to 266 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: get in her Bet. You know, that's why maybe you 267 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: know that that hopping on varshow combination makes a lot 268 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: of sense. And again to Joe Adell from Anaheim, that 269 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense. But I don't think 270 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna They're not could be there on August fourth 271 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: without addressing those two things, like you in our starter, 272 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: But that's kind of least of their concerns right now. 273 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: It's pretty much those two guys to have a chance. 274 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you talk to Phillies and you talk to 275 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: the front office. They believe they should have had a 276 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: world series by now, you know, since twenty twenty one, 277 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: if not two rings, this might be the weakest, you 278 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: know team of those five. But I think they got 279 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: to get those two guys. And you know, like you 280 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: guys are talking about what Harper said, they're all saying 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: the same thing. They've ben't seeing that for a month now, 282 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: the front office knows that it's just a yeah, I 283 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: was surprised at badally the wrong way like that. But 284 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: remember Don Sun's the GM, so it might be a 285 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: little sensitive there. 286 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: I forgot about that ball. That's smart. I forgot Preson's 287 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: the GM. So I'm like, hey, leave my kid alone, 288 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: Leave my son alone, Bob. That's like you when I 289 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: say bad things about the Twins beat writers, you say, 290 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: leave my son alone. A kidding. 291 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 5: Oh, it's understood. 292 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: It's interested. One team we didn't talk about, we haven't 293 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: even mentioned yet, and we're deep in this conversation is 294 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: the New York Yankees. They don't usually make these huge splashes, 295 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: but they do have some holes. Is there a move 296 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: out there that can fix the Yankees? And by the way, 297 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: before you answer that, do we have an Aaron Judge 298 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: status update other than he gets more imaging like once 299 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: a week. 300 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: Hey, what they're more they're more worried about Judge than 301 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: they let on. They don't know whether it's coming back 302 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: or not. We'll see, and they're keeping their fingers crossed 303 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: saying their prayers at night. But you know, if he 304 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: hasn't come back, you know then it's like, Okay, how 305 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: aggressive you really want to be? 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But nothing 353 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: like that. But just if there's a salary cap and 354 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: you've got a big market team, you're gonna have to 355 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: start blopping off some salaries. You know. I think it'll 356 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: be a tier system. You don't have to do it 357 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: right away, but certainly you're gonna have to do it 358 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: before the CBA expires in four or five years. 359 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: Bob, A lot of catchers, A lot of catchers, A 360 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: lot of teams need catching. I love catchers, crafts loves catchers. 361 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: Catchers are the smartest people, usually the best looking on 362 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: a team. Right, won't there be any catchers traded? I mean, 363 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: Hunter Goodman, We've heard Salvi Perez basically came out and 364 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: said he won't. He doesn't think you'll waive as no 365 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 4: trade clause, or do you think there'll be any catchers? Addly, 366 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: Pasaio's obviously not going anywhere, but do you think there'll 367 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: be any catchers move? Because that is a position of 368 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: need for a lot of these teams. 369 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see good moving neither. I mean, you 370 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: got them for four more years, and the guys have 371 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: study hit more home runs, you know, on the road 372 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: in that courtse field. I think I know the Twins 373 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: are in this thing. I think Ryan Jeffers can still 374 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: be traded. They got Karatini there, they can do both, 375 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 3: still stay in the race. Get some help, especially they 376 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: need some bullpen help, you know. With the Twins, a 377 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: gotta be kicking themselves, as you know, giving away Louis 378 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: Barland last year, tradding away Duran if they had just 379 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: kept one of them, just say, Barlin is a local 380 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: kid not making money. That might be win that division 381 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: by five games. So I'm sure that decision haunts them 382 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: every single night. But they could trade Jeffers to get 383 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: some bullpen help. He's gonna leave anywhe at the end 384 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: the year. 385 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: What about the Mets? What what about the Mets? A 386 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: team that has been out of it for two months, 387 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 6: they should be the most prepared for this trade deadline. 388 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: I know they've been prepared for the Beltron party in Cooperstown. 389 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, they're gonna move everybody, and uh, they'd 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: love to move a ut Lindor at some point. They 391 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: don't think they can do it now, just with the money. 392 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 3: It's so complicated. For if Londora's moved, it would more 393 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: be in the off season where teams can figure out 394 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: their payroll and everything else. But I'd be surprised to 395 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: see him still with the Mets a year from now. 396 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: I just think they want to shake things up. And 397 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 3: you know, I know how popular he is, you know, 398 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: But so it was Alonzo and they moved, so I 399 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: could see a lot of activity with Lindor, uh you 400 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: know this winner, but but not now. But yeah, otherwise, 401 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: I think just about everybody else else in the team 402 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: except the young guys are available. 403 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned Carlos beltromp So I'm going to ask this, 404 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: and it's kind of a little bit off the subject 405 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: of trades, which I love when we don't have to 406 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: talk about trades twenty four to seven, But is Carlos 407 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 4: Beltron going to be the manager of the Mets? I 408 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: know he already was and he got fired because of 409 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 4: the cheating thing with the trash can, but keep hearing 410 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: his name popping up all over the place. Andy Green's 411 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't think is a long term solution for what 412 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: they want to do. But is Carlos Beltron going to 413 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: be the first, their first baby option, their first interview 414 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: for who they want. 415 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: I think he's been to have the job they really do, 416 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: and they asked me one it this summer, you know, 417 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: when they fire Mendoza, and he passed on it because 418 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: I think be as the Hall of Fame. Really it's like, okay, 419 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this. I got to prepare 420 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: for Cooper's Down. I'd be gone for a few days, 421 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: like to have a fresh start. So I think he's 422 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: the guy. I mean, they're having, you know, the big 423 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: lavish party at Cooper's Down for him having the ceremonies. 424 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: They love the guy. I think it's his job. I 425 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: still hear Chris Swinbert's name a little bit too as 426 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: far as the guy by a lacking interview, but I'd 427 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: be surprised or maybe even semi shocked it was not Beltron. 428 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: I thought I should have kept the job to begin with. 429 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: I that was ridiculous that he got fired when all 430 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: he was was a player during that scandal. It wasn't 431 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: like he was a GM or manager, and yet he 432 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: got punished the most. 433 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 6: You said the Mets should listen to anybody except for 434 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 6: the young guys. Who's the most valuable piece is Luke 435 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 6: Weaver because he's he's still locked in for another year 436 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 6: and he's pitching the best. Who's the most valuable piece 437 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: that that teams are going to inquire the most from 438 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 6: about from the Mets. 439 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: It might be play homes. You know, he's had a 440 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: couple of rehab assignments. Now he's probably going to opt 441 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: out anyway. It's only going to be about twelve Milly 442 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: dollars on his contract for next year if he doesn't 443 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: opt out. So I think people like him a lot 444 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: because he can do the you know, both ways, and 445 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: you need a reliever, you know, put kolds your bulk 446 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: and need a starter or do that where he could 447 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: do way uh you know the Phillies are talking about 448 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: if they got homes, he could start, you know, for 449 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: the rest of the year and then him in the 450 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: bullpen come postseason time. So I think he'd have a 451 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: little bit more of value than we would. 452 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 5: Last Oh. 453 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: No, I'm just I'm just surprised by that because you know, 454 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: wea were for at the beginning of your Mets fans 455 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: are ready to strangle him and Devin Williams and now 456 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 4: here they both are ended up actually having pretty good 457 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: years for both of them. Though it's kind of funny 458 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: that that's the thing. Also, it's a bother. There's one 459 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: more team that we haven't mentioned, the Cubs. The Cubs 460 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: the DFA Jameson tie On. They need pitching. We all 461 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: know they need pitching. Maybe another battle. Well, the Cubs 462 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: make a move not to win the division because Jed 463 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: Hoyer said, oh, we only want to do it if 464 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: we can beat get the buye right. Well, if the 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: Cubs fans, they're just happy they're in the playoffs, they 466 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: have a chance to win. So does that mean Jed 467 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: Hoyer won't make the big move because they're probably not 468 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: going to win the division. 469 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: I think they'll make a big move. I think they'll 470 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: be in on all the all the starters, you know, 471 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: whether it's say, you know, School Bawl or anybody else. 472 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: But I think, you know, I think Matt saw It 473 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: is a great trade piece. I think they get a 474 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: lot by using Shaw and the trade, but they got 475 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: to have a starter. If they weren't serious about that, 476 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: they want to you know, DFA tie on Who's so 477 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: poper that clubhouse, and there was a big wake up 478 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: call to those guys. But I think it's also a 479 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: sign that, hey, we're in this thing, you know, just 480 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: like you know, heard some feelings here, but we're going 481 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: for it. So no, I think, you know, they got 482 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: to go get a starter. I think they feel like 483 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: if they get a starter to at least have a 484 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: chance against the Dieters. So and right now, the way 485 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: they're you know, trending, they could get the number four seed, 486 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: so at least you to have home field advantage in 487 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: that wildcard round until the next play the next division series. 488 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Bob, you are the best. Thank you. 489 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: We got to a lot. That's why it's night in 490 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Gale's notes. We get to it just like you do 491 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: on the Sunday column that I love so dearly for 492 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: many years. Appreciate you. We'll talk again very soon about 493 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: trade deadline. 494 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: Look forward to it. Thank you, guys, Thank you, thank you. 495 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 5: Hey. 496 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: Anywhere I go in base all these days, all I 497 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 4: hear about is analytics and data and exit velocity and 498 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: pitch grips and spin rates and all this inverted vertical 499 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: break and everything that you're hearing about. 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Rhapsodo Softball is helping softball 510 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: players and coaches trained with the same data driven mindset 511 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: built specifically for their game. So whether you're building a 512 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: program developing players we're just tired of guessing, go to 513 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: rapsodo dot com and learn more data wins. Rhapsodo helps 514 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: you use it. 515 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he said. 516 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 517 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: That's what he said. 518 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 519 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: Guys, I thought this was interesting. Ken Rosenthal hopping on 520 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Brave show that's part of the FT Network, 521 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: and they asked a question that I just didn't even consider. 522 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Alexanthopolis and his relationship with the Blue Jays. Blue Jays 523 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: could be big sellers over the next few days. Braves 524 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: definitely have some interest in their players. Let's run with 525 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: Ken said. 526 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 8: Do you see any world where the Blue Jays sell 527 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 8: off some pieces and would Gosman be a guy that 528 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 8: they could potentially pivot to. 529 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I see that world. 530 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 8: I definitely see the Blue Jays potentially selling pieces. What 531 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 8: I have a harder time saying is the Blue Jays 532 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 8: trading with Alexanthopolis. 533 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 7: There are feelings There's got that way, There are. 534 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 9: Emotions there, and Anthopolis, of course would not work for 535 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 9: Mark Schapiro, who is now the team president. I would 536 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 9: think Toronto would have a hard time dealing with Alex now. 537 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 7: If he makes the best offer for Gossman and it's 538 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: in the best interest of both, I don't know why 539 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 7: you wouldn't you put all that past side. It's been 540 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 7: ten years now almost, But you. 541 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 8: Guys know, sometimes personal feelings do come into play, and 542 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 8: I could see it in this case more. 543 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 7: Than maybe in some others. If like the GM doesn't 544 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 7: like another GM. Granted again, if the deal is something 545 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 7: both sides desire and is helpful to both sides, sure 546 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 7: you get it done. 547 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 5: But that could be a roadblock. 548 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: And aj the same people are there, right, Like Mark 549 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: Shapiro is still running the Blue Jays front office, so 550 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: if there was some past beef, you know, his front 551 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: office making phone calls with Alex's front office on the 552 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta side and potentially helping them win a World Series 553 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: is tough when people have personal feelings. 554 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: So do you think that this. 555 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: Could preclude a trade from going down between these two teams? 556 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: I hope not, but yes, Ken summed it up. We 557 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: all know personal feelings happen. I remember with the White Sox, 558 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: you'd hear all the time certain people didn't want to 559 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: deal with the White Sox front office. White Sox front 560 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: officer say, I don't want to deal with this guy 561 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: on this team because he screwed me fifteen years ago 562 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: in the past. Or I don't want to deal with 563 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: this agent because I don't like the way he cost 564 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: us this draft pick or whatever it is. So I 565 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: hope it doesn't happen. But we're human beings, and we 566 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 4: get emotional and we get mad at people, and we 567 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: hold grudges and we keep receipts and then, oh, I 568 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: got a chance to screw this guy over, I'm gonna 569 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: take every advantage because of what he did to me 570 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: twenty years ago. Trust me, I'm one of the worst 571 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: at It's one of my bad qualities that I had 572 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: that I definitely try to work on. But it's just hard. 573 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: Obviously I don't know this beef. 574 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: Obviously, I know, you know the Anthopolis didn't want to 575 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 6: work for Shapiro. But I do know what AJ was 576 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 6: talking about. What year did Garcia get traded from the 577 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 6: White Sox to the Phillies. 578 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 4: Do you remember, Uh, No, it's two thousand and seven. 579 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: Maybe it was when they got Geo Gonzalez back. I 580 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: think it was two thousand and seven. 581 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 6: Essentially, this was five years later, and I had no 582 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 6: idea what was happening. I heard somebody from the Philly say, 583 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 6: we won't do we won't do any we won't do 584 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: any trades with the White Sox because of the Garcia trade. 585 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: And I was like, what happened? 586 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 6: And he told me, and I was like, okay, But 587 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: this was five plus years after that. 588 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 5: They don't they don't forget. 589 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 6: It's like until that person's out of that position, we're 590 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: not making a move because people don't trust them, or 591 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 6: you know, whatever happened with Anthopolis and Shapiro. Hey, I 592 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 6: won't work for you. You know that's that's real. These 593 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: moves are will sometimes it's robots and analytics and computers. 594 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 6: These moves are made by humans. And you have to 595 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 6: trust the person that you're getting, you know, the player 596 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 6: that you're getting from that team. 597 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: December sixth, two thousand and six, that was when the 598 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: trade went down. 599 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: I nailed that pretty good about myself. I nailed that, 600 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: I said for two thousands. 601 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: Still got it better than yours, is better than mine. 602 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: I'll I'll tell you that. 603 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddie Garcia of the Phillies for Gavin Floyd and 604 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Geoe Gonzalez. 605 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 4: I forgot Gavin Floyd came over now. But I remember 606 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: Geo because the White Sox traded drafted Geo traded him 607 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: for Jim Tolemy, got him back for Freddy, and then 608 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: traded him to Oakland for Swisher, And he didn't pitch 609 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: for I don't know if you ever pitched for the 610 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: White Sox until later on in his career, but he 611 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: never like he came up originally, and they he had 612 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: been traded like three times from and away from the 613 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: White Sox without ever pitching for him. 614 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: Grudges are real. They are. 615 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: And also there are ownership grudges that we probably don't 616 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: even know about, and those are the most real. Do 617 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: you want to know why? Because they are allowed to 618 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: act with emotion. Most front offices have to shove a 619 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: lot of that aside, but then when it comes to 620 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: actually getting approval, the owner has to be okay with 621 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: that move, right. That's why the division thing happens all 622 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: the time, because if you're an owner of a team, 623 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: you're feeling the most affected by and paying the most 624 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: attention to what's going on in your division. I would 625 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: say more so than the front office. Would you agree 626 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: with that? Aj Like, if you're an owner of a team, 627 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: you're telling your front office, hey, be careful here. I 628 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: don't want to be known as the guy that helped 629 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: a team in our division, while the front office is going, hey, 630 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: they're giving us the best offer. I want whatever's going 631 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: to help our team up its value a little bit 632 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: over the next few years. 633 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: You mean the Jerry reins Worf won't trade in his division? 634 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: Was that last year? 635 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 5: We heard that rumor? 636 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: And then he's like, that's absolutely not true, But they 637 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: still don't think. And they also had a thing where 638 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: they would never trade with the Cubs for a long time. 639 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: But I think that one's passed also, So I don't know. Yeah, 640 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 4: do I think it's yes? We're human being Scott. How 641 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: many times I go to say this? People are human, 642 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: This is a human game. This is not just fantasy land. 643 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: There's human feelings of all there's I mean, listen, I 644 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: remember for years the White Sox had a thing, we 645 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: will not take a Scott Boris client because they didn't 646 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: want to deal with Scott Boris. And that was because 647 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: he screwed him over I don't even remember what it was. 648 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: Some somewhere along the way a draft pick got messed 649 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: up and he didn't sign or something. So the Whites 650 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: actually screw him. He's impossible to deal with him. They 651 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't get a Boris player. So, I mean, stuff happens. 652 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that only works for a little bit of time 653 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: until you look at pre agency and you're like, uh, 654 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that we would not be 655 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: able to call about it is. I mean that stuff 656 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: gets a little soft hey there. That occurs when owners 657 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: get affected by thinking they have a player and then 658 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: feeling as if name that agent you know, used him 659 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: for leverage, and it's like, I'm sorry, that's how the 660 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: free agency game works, you know, and they get personally 661 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: mad about it. I actually I think the Mets got 662 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: mad about wasn't it. Wasn't it Stephen Mattz that that 663 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Cohen talked about a little bit years back. There's something there. 664 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: If one of you talk, I'll find it in five seconds. 665 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: But there was something there where there was a little 666 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: free agent dance. I think it was Matts. Yes, yes, 667 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I found it. Cohen publicly criticized Stephen Mattz's agent in 668 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty one after he chose to sign a 669 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: four year, forty four million dollar contract with the Cardinals 670 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: instead of returning to the Mets. He said he had 671 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: never seen such unprofessional behavior exhibited by a player's agent, 672 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: adding that words and promises don't matter. Agent Rob Martin 673 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: defended the decision, stating Matts loved his time, made the 674 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: best choice for his family after multiple competitive offers. I mean, 675 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I was totally on Matt's side on this one. Like what, 676 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: you didn't have a deal done? I mean, Boba Schett 677 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: didn't have a deal done with the Phillies. You can 678 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: have a conversation. You can go over parameters if another 679 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: team wants to match that, It's called free agency. Most 680 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: players have to wait a decade to get there. It's 681 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: part of the game. 682 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: Look, I had this happen. I had this exact thing 683 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: happened to me one time. I mean not to the 684 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: point where I had, you know, people mad at me. 685 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: But in twenty ten, I was a free agent before 686 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: the twenty eleven season in I thought I was to 687 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 4: be a Dodger. I called my mom and said, hey, 688 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm going to be a Dodger. We had gotten to 689 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: the point where literally it was done. All that was 690 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: waiting was Frank McCort was on a plane flying somewhere. 691 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: And he was on a plane and Ned Coletti, the 692 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: GM of the Dodgers, said hey, do we have a deal. 693 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: My agent said, once McCord finalizes it, i'll call it 694 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: AJ and finished this deal up. And in that time 695 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: before we said yes, in that time, the White Sox 696 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: called and said, hey, we'll offer you a two year deal. 697 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: It was for less money, but do you want to 698 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 4: come back? And I took it. So, yeah, it happens. 699 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: It happens now. I remember Jermaine die before he signed 700 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: with the White Sox in the two thousand and four. 701 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: Before the two thousand and five season, he agreed to 702 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: a deal with the White Sox. Another team came in 703 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: and said, hey, we'll give you more money. He said, oh, guys, sorry, 704 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: it's too late. I already agreed to terms. So I 705 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: give him a ton of credit for honoring his word. 706 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: And like I said, if I would have agreed and 707 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 4: said yes to my agent, yes, let's be a Dodger, 708 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: I would have not been able to say yes to 709 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: the White Sox because I would not have been able 710 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 4: to honestly looked myself and I screwed this team. And 711 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: luckily for me, I had not gotten to that point. 712 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: But it was. It was. We were fourth, we were 713 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 4: first and goal on the half yard line, and we 714 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: had Jalen Hurts ready to do the the you know, 715 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: the tush push four times to get in to win 716 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. 717 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: And you felt loyalty to the White Sox. 718 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but still, I mean, if I had already said yes, 719 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have It wouldn't have mattered. It wouldn't have 720 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: mattered to me because I would have felt awful. Because 721 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: you know, if I say yes to something. I try 722 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: to keep my word. 723 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: To it right. 724 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 5: Well. 725 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: In conclusion, the Blue Jays and Braves might make a 726 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: deal or they might not. And if they don't, we 727 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: could hear more about this, but it was a great 728 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: point by the Hammer Territory crew and by Ken and 729 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: lastly on the Blue Jays front. Adding injury to injury, 730 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Bladdy Junior was removed from last night's game with right 731 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: hamstring tightness. 732 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: He's been dealing with the back this season. 733 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: That's been the word on what's going on with him, 734 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: just sapping the power. 735 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: I guess yes. Ah. 736 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: He was so freaking good in the playoffs last year. 737 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: They could not figure out how to get him out 738 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: and he was the complete player good kind of like 739 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: how we see you guard an operas this year where 740 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: it's hit tool and its power tool at the elite level. 741 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: H he was. 742 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: He was that player. Remember a couple years ago when 743 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: he said that was just the opening act. I'm gonna 744 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 4: win the Oscar or whatever MVP. And he's had spurts 745 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: where you see it and then it just goes away 746 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: and then like this year, he has the year where 747 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 4: there's no power. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe 748 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 4: the hamstring was bothering him. I don't know, but it's 749 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: been a rough year for the Blue Jays. 750 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 5: Sorry. 751 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave him their money's worth though in October. 752 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean that run for Toronto and October doesn't happen 753 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: without Bladdy Junior. 754 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's. 755 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: An excuse for him to not play well the next 756 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: season and not have the pop and the pop at 757 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: home and all of that. But this is looking like 758 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: a last year for Toronto. The Classic World Series, hangover 759 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: situation going on, and they're what around ten games under 760 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: five hundred. This is an opportunity, though, Kratz, I think 761 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: you look at Toronto and say, Okay, there's three to 762 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: five pieces that they can get some significant, significant return on. 763 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: It's a team that needs to do a little farm 764 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: system replenishing. 765 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: And I don't think there's. 766 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: Anybody that doubts they can be a serious contender again 767 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: next year. 768 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 6: Because they're going to try to be a contender, just 769 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 6: like they tried to be a contender this offseason. And 770 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 6: maybe they falsely evaluated their roster based on the run 771 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 6: that they made last year and they didn't realize, Hey, 772 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 6: you know what, George probably isn't going to have the 773 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 6: same year. Now they have to replace that is I'm 774 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 6: completely forgetting Santander. Is he going to be able to 775 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 6: step into that role that they paid him two years 776 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 6: ago to be next year. 777 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 5: Because that's still in the contract. Is Barger going to 778 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: be there? 779 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 6: All those things they have to evaluate, and they have 780 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 6: to evaluate it here at this trade deadline, and I 781 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 6: think I think they have the chance to have a 782 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 6: lot of value that they can trade. But you Adviti's 783 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: back only hurt in Toronto? Is that why he has 784 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 6: zero home runs in Toronto? Which is a crazy stat. 785 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 6: But if it is, is the turf going to be 786 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 6: getting to Vladdie and start breaking his body down? All 787 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: those things need to be evaluated and taken into next 788 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 6: offseason because this this year's cooked, especially after the trade 789 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 6: deadline up. 790 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 5: I won't even watch a Jay's game. 791 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Right, they might trade Gosman, they might trade they should 792 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: trade bar Show, Right, he's a free agent after this year. 793 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: Bardrie said the surgery the other day, there's going to 794 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: be a different looking roster heading into next season, but 795 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: there's still a good core there and it does start 796 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: with Flatty Junior. Flatty Junior looks MVPSH. It's a totally 797 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: different ball club. 798 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: All right, good? 799 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. 800 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: I mean Cease is one of the best signings of 801 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: the off season. I don't know if you were on 802 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the other day, but we were talking about oh yeah, 803 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: it was Monday, coming off the CG one twenty Pitch 804 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: Gem and Fenway Park. Dylan Ceese has been freaking awesome 805 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: this year and continues the durability train that is still 806 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: very underrated in our sport. 807 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 6: The thing I don't like about the Jay's not doing 808 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 6: well is this is when the rest of the league, 809 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 6: the analytically driven teams go see, see just making contact 810 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 6: doesn't really play. Yes, they caught a heater last year. 811 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 6: This doesn't play. This type of baseball doesn't play. You know, 812 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 6: it's an easy cherry pick of see the Brewers lose 813 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 6: in the NLCS, this type of this type of baseball 814 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 6: doesn't play. So that that's the thing that I like. 815 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 6: I bristle at when these types of seasons happen. 816 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those criticism games. See not 817 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: enough power, Okay, well, oh willia domis thirty homers in 818 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 819 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's not good enough either. We don't like this, this, 820 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: and that, like, Okay, there. 821 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: Are a few flawless players, very few flawless players in 822 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: the sport. 823 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: Totally yeah, gotta love that. 824 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: I can't think of any Honestly. 825 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: No, everyone's perfect. 826 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: I mean if you no, I'm saying I can't think 827 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 4: of any any flawless players. 828 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: I was not chartistic. 829 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 5: Oh, I know. 830 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 6: He sucks in the he sucked the defense. Oh he 831 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 6: can't stay healthy. Show hey, show Hey might be flawless. 832 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say it, showy show injury. 833 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: That's the closest. 834 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 5: You can't. 835 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: Can't, dude, can't pitch. 836 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 5: I love that. I love that conversation. 837 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 6: We won't get into it, but the he's he may 838 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 6: not win the m v P because he's not pitching 839 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 6: right now. 840 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 5: I love it. I love that conversation. 841 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: Say that it's a it's an August combo.