1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: I broke up with my ex because she wanted me 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: to pay for everything, But now I regret it. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Dude, sugar daddy gotta provide. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: I mail twenty eight, broke up with my then girlfriend 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: female twenty eight of four years because of money. Now, 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: throughout my relationship with my ex, I always paid for dates, 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: which I am completely okay with. I paid for small 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: trips that we take across the state, and she never 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: had to drive a single time. 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: She lived about one zero. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Point seventy five hours away and had a nicer car 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: than me. I'd always pick her up and drop her off. 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't mind doing these things at all. Matter of fact, 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: I loved it. 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: I might not be a smart man, but I know 16 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: what love he is. Hope he loves to provide. That's 17 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: why he's riding. A whole Reddit post about this, speaking of. 18 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Which I love Throa and I broke on the art 19 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: slash shokey story Tim sub about it because they made 20 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: the story Hurrah. Things became tricky when she came to 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: me with expectations about money. A year into the relationship. 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: She told me she expected me to start contributing to 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: her bills, such as her phone bill, her nails. 24 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: In her hair. Wait, that's crazy. Phone bills, that's a 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit too much. But that's not all. 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: And that's not all. 27 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: She also requested that I pay for her special cosmetic 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: skin treatments, shopping cosmetic products, and help her with her 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: car payments. 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Although I've heard this argument, it's like, you 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: want me to look pretty for you, don't you. It 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: costs a lot of money. Maybe a new girl is prettier. 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Boom boo. I'm just saying, correct, do you spend all 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: this money? Listen? I got a natural beauty. That's we know. 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: We don't need. 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: We don't need any other extra. My my wallet is 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: still fat. So there you go. Take do with that 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: as you will. When we had this conversation the first time, 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: it hit me like a truck. I thought I was 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: being financially used, and I disputed this for months on end. 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: At some point she told me that the men she 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: had dated in the past did all that plus more. 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Okay, they go back to him, back to them. 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: She wasn't lying about it. I saw the receipts. One 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of these show the receipts. She's like, look, look earsy easy. 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, how did he How did he give the sheets? 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: One of them even took her on a vacation. I 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: was not jealous about this or feeling insecure about it 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: at the time. She told me that that's how relationships are, 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't be and I shouldn't see it as 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: an expense rather a token of my love and appreciation towards. 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Her bro I hate that. I hate the manipulation is crazy. 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: So just yeah, you're completely not saying that. You know, 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: gift giving is a love language and is great, but 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: it's like you're just complete sidestepping how he feels at all, 57 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: and just like, no, this is how it is. 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: And also, I mean, if you really want to play 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: the game, well you don't be too heavy handed with it, 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: you know, you just like like make slight suggestions and 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: maybe he'll get you more stuff. But now that you're 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: demanding it, you're gonna lose it. All. Well, you're a 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: bad sugar baby. Here's where she's at. 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm a year in and he's still not 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: buying me some chanel number five. 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Lay the hammer. 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: You gotta ease into this. It does He's like, all right, 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: we don't go from one hundred to zero. 69 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: We go we stair stuck. Come on, baby, no, no 70 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. Go give me your credit card. I'm buying 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: a sport social Security number on the first date right now. 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: It Wait, how much is Chanel number five or probably expensive? 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 74 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: It shows that you've never bonden that for a single 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: woman in your life, not even your mom, who I. 76 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Don't Yes, Hey, do you not love your mom? I'm like, 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: you love my mom? My mom hates that kind of stuff, though, 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: that's what she wants you to think. I buy my 79 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: mom wants like air pods. That's what my mom wants, 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: air pod number five. 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: That everyone's hearing, all right, But anyways, so she told 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: me that that's our relationships are. I shouldn't be seeing 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: it as an expense, rather a token of my love, 84 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: a printing appreciation towards her, especially if I'm working towards 85 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: getting married. 86 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: All of my friends disagreed with us and told me 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: to dumper. But I didn't. No, I didn't, dumper. Dude, 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: Your wallet will thank you, right. She made me extremely 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: happy in every other aspect of life. It's a head game, 90 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: every aspect or one. 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: In the head game, to come on, what head game 92 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: are we talking about? Like crazy like like crazy by 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the store. 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Like I know? Oh yeah, uh. 95 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: No, woman had had as much of it, had made 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: had made as much of an effort to make me happy, had. 97 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: Made as much have an effort. It's the words. 98 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: So let alone a woman this attractive, because she definitely 99 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: turned a lot of heads when we were ount together. 100 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: It's just a woman out of his league trying to siphon, 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: come on, it's a gold digger. Come on, hey, you 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: know what the best of us have fallen into that track, 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: my friend, I don't I don't call you all right, fine, 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: the middle of us, the best of Sam's. 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I was taken care of and deeply loved and understood 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: so well, and even my bad quirks were accepted and appreciated. 107 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: I don't believe it, dude. She's like, yeah, I'll accept 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: that quirk. But like twenty bucks comes at a cost, 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: comes at a cost per quirk, that's when I'm. 110 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: Cost per quirk. It's like a swear jarvis quirk quirk quirk. 111 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh that does not that sounds very spicy sleep quirk quirk. 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Jar So she said she understood I didn't make as 113 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: much as the last men she dated, and she didn't 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: want to compare, even though it's literally what she's doing. 115 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: She said, it was about the gesture and my willingness 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: to do so. So that started with paying a few 117 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: bills for her, for her shopping and for other things. 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Over time, I started getting stressed about money because I 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't have the funds to do the things that I 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: wanted in life, like improving my standard of living. Couldn't 121 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: afford investing or a house or a newer car. I 122 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: also started to feel insecure because I wasn't earning enough money. 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: Dude. Because of this, also, I am just getting the lyrics. 124 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: It's Britney Beach says, she takes my money when I'm 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: in need. I'm just getting the lyrics to that right now. Yeah, 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: she takes my money when I'm in need. 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Because of this, I started to resent going on dates 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: or other activities because I was struggling to financially keep up. 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: I tried explaining to her that things were tight, but 130 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: she said it was my job to figure things out 131 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and that she and that she wouldn't compromise because what 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: I was doing was the bare minimum. 133 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: She's not going to compromise on that. Come on, dude, 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: She's not going to compromise. And she's she's accustomed to 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: a certain lifestyle. You know, she she deserves it, she 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: does what is going on here. She felt disrespected or 137 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: unloved when I said no to things that dude, Yeah, 138 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I hate this. I hate this. 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the type of man to indulge in luxury myself. 140 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm super simple. And I felt like I couldn't keep 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: up with her or what her exes did for her. 142 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: My insecurities got worse and worse, and at this point, 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: my friends and parents were telling me that if I 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: did these if I did these things for any other girl, 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I'd be treated even better, and that I was being 146 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: taken advantage of. Always in these stories are like oh 147 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: they're they're so great and everything else, but this one thing, but. 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: The one really is like completely tearing up the rest 149 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: of their personality, like this is this is It's like, oh, 150 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: my god, he's so great. He just like murders people 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: on the weekend. But besides that, amazing, it's so peachy, 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: like so peach. I'm like, what, don't look at that thing? God, God, 153 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: my breaking point. 154 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: We haven't had the breaking point ye, yeah, yeah, there's 155 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: breaking point. 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes. Wow. Was when she asked for no a nose job. No, 157 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: that's right. 158 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: I told her I couldn't afford him, and she said 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that I could just get it on a payment plan. 160 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Get out get such a massive red flag. Also, keon 161 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: the producer, Yeah, could you look up the average cost 162 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: of a nose job? 163 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Ten k? Ten k, So we'll see. But some nose 164 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: jobs I think are covered by insurance a little bit, 165 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: if you can, like say, like your noses. Yeah, Like 166 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: there was like a deviated septum and I was thinking 167 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: about getting it fixed so I could like get my 168 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: so I could breathe better. Get a ring, a six 169 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: nose ring, maybe get you know, get a one. I 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: just want to make my nose bigger, like like I 171 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: could go out here bird vibes. Yeah, dude, bird vibes, great, 172 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: bird vibe. I could just like, now you can really 173 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: look like a pigeon. Yeah, that's all part of my 174 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: plan to become a pigeon. Wow. But I think insurance 175 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: covers some of it. If if you have a deviated septim. 176 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've like make enough of a case or 177 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, it's between yeah, go ahead. 178 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: It looks like between let's just say five to seven, yeah, 179 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: like a like a median. 180 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: So at this point I told her that I had 181 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: had enough and we broke up. Gone done, finito good. 182 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: We were on and off for a few weeks, bad 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: because we were still close and the love was mutual. However, 184 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: we eventually drifted away good. Since then, I've been alone 185 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and reflecting on my decision. My friends and family did 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: not like her at all and said that I was 187 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: being taken advantage of. However, I keep hearing how it's 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: becoming more common for men to offer to pay for 189 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: a woman's things. Men enjoy taking care of their women. 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: What do you mean more common? Like this is a 191 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: tale as old as time, men paying for women's things, 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: What do you mean more common? 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: I do feel that there is There was the like 194 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: swing to like like you know, oh like like women 195 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: work and do things with themselves. 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: What a concept? And now there is you know, like 197 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: you know. 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Just like sugar sugar babying feels like it's it's on 199 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: a on a hot streak right. 200 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Now, oh, sugar babying. But like the sugar babying vibes 201 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: are like permeating. Yeah, but I guess I guess. I 202 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: guess like sugar babying, like softcore prostitution is becoming like 203 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: way more accepted in society Samuel Donald twenty twenty four. 204 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: I it is that not a little like it's like 205 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah there, it's like softcore. So uh, you. 206 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Know men enjoy taking care of the women papering them, 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and that some of them really go out of the 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: way to make sure their women are showered with gifts. 209 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: I hear some men say that it's harder for women 210 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: to make money due to wage differences, et cetera. Let 211 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: alone as much money as men, so we shouldn't expect 212 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: them to pay for things or go fifty to fifty 213 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: and makes their lives easier. And because we love them, 214 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: especially if we want to get married down the road. 215 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh boy, we're gonna talk about that in a second. 216 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the issue was actually me. Was it 217 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: my fault for not making enough money or working harder 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to make more? Was I not understanding her love language? 219 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: Was I wrong to complain about money at all? Sense 220 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: is since this is what some modern relationships look like. 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Is it the expectation that attractive women have high costs 222 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: slash demands. 223 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean that is all that is kind of that 224 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: is like, it's not untrue. 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: There is so so there is a expectation culturally in 226 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: we live in a society, one can say. 227 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: And also if you're like a hot woman in your twenties, 228 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: like you want to be on a boat, you're on 229 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: a boat, you know, like you want to go to 230 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: like Peru for free, you can go to Peru for free. Yeah, 231 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: there are there are ways to work it, and I 232 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: think there sometimes there is like an expectation like girls 233 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: and they're like like like very attractive girls and their 234 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: early twenties just get a lot of stuff for free. Yeah, 235 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: like with with you know, some of my friends at 236 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: least have said that. 237 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: So that's all true. But like at the end of 238 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: the day, this is your relationship. So if you are 239 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: feeling like, hey, look I'm I'm fine with it, like 240 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: the things he was doing before, like oh, I'm fine, 241 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'll. 242 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: Pay for we do some vacation, some trips together, and 243 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: like pay for her. 244 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Meals when we go out, and you feel good about that, 245 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: that's great. But if you're like, hey, I don't feel good, 246 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: and I'm struggling under this pressure and like feel insecure 247 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. 248 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, then that's not a good partnership for you. Exactly right, exactly, 249 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: And it's like, yes, there are women that will do that, 250 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: but that, just like you said, is not gonna be 251 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: in a good partnership, which. 252 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: Could be totally fine if they both agreed. 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: They both are agree to this. You don't have to 254 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: agree to this. This is not every woman, This is 255 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: not every relationship, like most of my past relationships have 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: been like fifty fifty. 257 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still more, Okay, there isn't that. I did 258 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: not expect this post to blow up overnight. I appreciate 259 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: everyone's kind words and support. It's giving me more confidence 260 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: in my decision. I have not gotten a chance to 261 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: read all the comments, let alone apply or let alone 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: reply to everyone. But I do get the general consensus 263 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: that I made the right choice you did, and need 264 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: to evaluate my values moving into my next relationship, whenever 265 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: that might be. To answer a few general questions, there 266 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: weren't any cultural differences. I got my credit card back 267 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: when we broke up. That is, oh, you just gave. 268 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: You gave her your credit card, bro that's terrifying. Red 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: flag that is yeah, red flag, big time, red Flag city. 270 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: And there have been no charges since then. Okay, at 271 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: least she's got some scruples. I feel. 272 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: I feel like she's basically like, I can't get any more. 273 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: Take your take your dingy little Yeah. 274 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Your credit's not good enough. Yeah, yeah, right. I want 275 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: to be with someone that really cares and has an AMEX. 276 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah credit card, not platinum. You take your black card 277 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: to get my face. We spent nearly every second of 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: the day talking even if we weren't together with each other, 279 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: like at work, et cetera. And I will consider therapy. 280 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: You need therapy, my guy. I don't intend to date 281 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: for a while. I spent a lot on this girl 282 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: of the past four years, and I will need time 283 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: to recover that amount and work on investing. 284 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: Oh I've definitely gone through phases of spending too much 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: on girls that I've just met. It happened, it happens, 286 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: we get swept the way it happens, it happens, and where. 287 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm working on improving my quality of life. I will 288 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: also focus on building my career and more healthy relationships 289 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: with my friends and family. 290 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: And you can build a healthy relationship with. 291 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: Us by joining our live every weekday at three pm PST. 292 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Tap the freaking profile again. I can't express enough gratitude 293 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to everyone who took the time to comment, provide support, insight, 294 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and share their experiences. 295 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 296 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Time for okop rewam. My baby called my wife's work 297 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: husband dad, and now I am suspicious. 298 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: He's been spending a little bit too much time around 299 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: the old wife from a home but maybe it's bone 300 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: from a home without god remote boning ooh good, gravy. 301 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,359 Speaker 2: Turn the camera on, Poppy. I want this zoom meeting recorded. 302 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Industry beat it, Oh God, transcribe it. 303 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: It's just like a a oh oh violation. 304 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Yep, this is this is This looks like a saucy one. Guys. 305 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't really want to come across as 306 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: that one controlling guy that cuts off his wife from 307 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: her friends. 308 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: But I am going to do it. No, I'm just kidding. 309 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be fucking inside. 310 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: But I've just witnessed something I can't look past. My 311 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: wife has been seeing her best guy friend way more 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: often than she even sees me. 313 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: It's sad man, you know. 314 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, he's always over at my house and I just 315 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: heard my son call that man dadda shit road. Not 316 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: only is he stealing your wife, he's in your kid too. 317 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: What would you what would you do? Oh man trying 318 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: to feel sad? I would feel sad for sure. I mean, like, 319 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I would probably if he's if he can't, 320 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean like I would be like yo to the dude, like, hey, 321 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: I want to be the dad, Like could he like 322 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: not my kid. It's tough because like you know, the 323 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: kid's probably like enjoying the time with this guy, right 324 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: if he's there. But I mean, I think that would 325 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: be my indicator as a father where I would be 326 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: like I need to be more present in the home 327 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: because no way this this dude's gonna. 328 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you're just terrible father. Maybe that's what it is. 329 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: If he he definitely ideally needs to be spending more 330 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: time with his kid, Like that's probably clear, right, I 331 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: feel like it low key could be yeah, I mean, 332 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: and but it's tough. It's tough. I would feel ship though, 333 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: that's for sure. I don't know what I would do, 334 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: but I would feel like a he's a poop agreed. 335 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: My wife did nothing but laugh, Oh, just twist the 336 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: knife her. Her friend at least had the decency to 337 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: realize he'd done wrong, because he tensed up and looked 338 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: at me in a panic, as if he expected me 339 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: to kick off on him. 340 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, beat the ship out of it. Who my kid 341 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: calls dada? I'm the daddy now. So I watched this 342 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 4: beat down. 343 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: Learn from your old man, say it, daddy. 344 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: You know he got he gotta say data. This makes 345 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: me think that my wife has been talking badly about 346 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: me and maybe calling me aggressive. For the man to 347 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: look scared, it seems like a bit of a bit 348 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: of a leap he has like a unless he. 349 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: Has like a history of being aggressive. 350 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: I feel there's so much going on and like each 351 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: everyone is like the wife is thinking this, the op 352 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: he's thinking this, The other guy's thinking it's there's just. 353 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: A lot happening. 354 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: I've been married to her for almost three years now, 355 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: so I would expect her to stick up for me 356 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: fair enough. 357 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: But like, also, like what is there Like I'm not 358 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: I'm not like I'm not defending anyone or anything, but 359 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: like what is there to stick up about? How dare you? 360 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: How you you like like like like like what would 361 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: what would you want her to say, like like discipline 362 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: the child. You're not saying. 363 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: Probably not laugh in his face. I feel like that's 364 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: the only thing that was like what would you what 365 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: would you do? 366 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, just like honestly, laughing is like 367 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: the best thing you could. 368 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Do, yeah, because then that kind of takes the like 369 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: the gravity away from it. 370 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like what you do? Would you be like, Oh, 371 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe he said that. I'm so sorry, Like 372 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 2: it makes it seem like I don't know. 373 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely OPI is like highly oversensitive about him. Yeah, 374 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: and with like what we say, you know, like this 375 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: is a sensitive area. But yeah, I don't know if 376 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: he could do like what else do you do? I 377 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you do anything else in this situation. 378 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: It's a it's a situation that sucks. But you can't 379 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: blame the kid, yep. And you can't blame unless he's 380 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: boned in your wife. You can't really blame the dude. 381 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 382 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Maybe he's over too much. I don't know, but you 383 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: need help. Let's keep going, keep going. 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to feel we 385 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: need more more info. 386 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I feel like he's spending more time with my son 387 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: than I do, as he's always over and I work 388 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: long hours. He works night shifts, so during the day, 389 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: he's almost always away at my house and I come 390 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: home to see him being there. 391 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: That's that's a little bit crazy. 392 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: He's constantly there doing something with my son, and my 393 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: son loves him, which hurts me as I want to 394 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: have my own bond with him and I feel like 395 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: that's been taken away from me. Hmmm, I mean to 396 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: two things can be can exist at once. I feel 397 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I. 398 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: Mean, like, okay, like just hypothetical. If this was a woman, 399 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: it's a woman best friend, Yeah, same kind of dynamic. 400 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: He wouldn't you probably wouldn't feel anyway, right if there 401 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: was oh, if there was a woman over all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 402 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: probably it probably wouldn't feel no, right, Especially it's like 403 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: his like his wife is probably doing all, like, you know, 404 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: the homemaking and like taking care of the kid. Like 405 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: probably would have helped to have extra hands around the house. Yeah, yeah, 406 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: we need another women to make all my. 407 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Sand, which is come on, I'm busy not parent to 408 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: go over here, give me some lettuce ham and mao stat. 409 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: I mean, like, as of right now, I think you could. 410 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: I think you honestly could ask like, go, could you 411 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: just be over less? 412 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Because like that's what I feel like, not even the 413 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: child situation, but like, this is my home and I 414 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of want to like you should have the option 415 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: to be like I just kind of want to come 416 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: home and just like not because when someone's there, it's like, 417 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: oh you like you can't like fully relax, you know 418 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. 419 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: So that's the angle I would take. 420 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: I would be like, look, man, like I'm just coming home, 421 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: like you're like always over, like I never know when 422 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be over, and I just want to be 423 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: able to relax, like walk around in my boxers, you 424 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like. 425 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: Can that's a good give me some space? I don't know. 426 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: Also, it's really hard to like huddle with my wife 427 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: when you're always fucking her, you know. 428 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: It's really it's really hard to get my dong over 429 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: there when you're just like either. 430 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Way, you know, I can only go through the back door, 431 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: and it's like it's already you know, you know I 432 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: have to go. It's tough it's really tough out here. 433 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: It's really tough. It's really tough for the opis. 434 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: Now my wife is pregnant again. Okay, maybe you could 435 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: get it right the second time. 436 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: And I've told her I've been thinking of cutting my 437 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: hours because I want to be there for my kids. 438 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's actually great, which seems great, but 439 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: she threw a fit because she needs the money so 440 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: she can stay home with the kids because that's better 441 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: for them. Yo, I don't know. I would say that 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: that's yeast part. 443 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: That's that's a little that's kind of crazy, dude, that's 444 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of harsh. 445 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's his kid too. 446 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: He's literally like like it works out because he can 447 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: be there like you're there, so that way there's someone 448 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: watching him. He's going to be there more often so 449 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: you don't even have to watch him. 450 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know. Like parenting, I believe parent 451 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: like like like I believe in co parenting. I think 452 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: like both kids, both parents should be there for their 453 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: kid as much as they would want to and like 454 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: to take that away from the dad seems say kind 455 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: of fucked. 456 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: I believe in inequality. Believe inequality. Ah, yes, I'm joking here. First, 457 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: I hear some of the ship he's saying. 458 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, when the mi are off, Sean goes off. I'm kidding, 459 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm kidding. 460 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: They're just gonna be like like the uh the secret 461 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: recordings of John from OKOP. 462 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: And they're just gonna release all the It's gonna be 463 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: like water. Yeah. I just want my kids to bond 464 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: with me and not that man. 465 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: She doesn't seem to understand that parenting is a team yes, 466 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: and it's almost like she doesn't want me to be involved. 467 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: This has just made me realize that I need to 468 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: be more involved than her guy best friend is, and 469 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how to peacefully go about that. Any advice. Well, 470 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: first off, y'all need to give him some advice. Yeah, 471 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: please throw in the comments. 472 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: Throw it in there. And if you think like op 473 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: or or the wife or or anyone as the a. 474 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: Hole, where has this situation happened to you? You let 475 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: us stories in there where we've been reading a bunch 476 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, And it's also like everyone like like 477 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: reads and responds them in the comments is awesome. 478 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: But Okay, I think like I don't. I don't think 479 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: he actually is in the wrong, like op, he's in 480 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: the wrong at all. I think they and I don't 481 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: think the friend is necessarily in the wrong at all 482 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: because the boundaries haven't been made them. I think the 483 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: only person that's like definitely the a hole here is 484 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: the wife for really only for not letting the guy 485 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: be with his sons. Literally, she was like, you can't 486 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: watch him because I'm better for them. It's like that's 487 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: so shitty. What that's a that's terrible. 488 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: So I would I would be like, I mean, I 489 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: would just I would cut your it's it's it's your 490 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: kids too. 491 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 2: I would. 492 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I would, I would have another conversation with your wife, 493 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: but like with the intention like I need to spend 494 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: time with my kids, I'm going to cut my hours. 495 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: Or you just straight you know it. 496 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: You go up to the to the to the guy 497 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm marry you know, I'm gonna. 498 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: Have taken the kids, or or you be like, yo, 499 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: if you're gonna be here all the time, you gotta 500 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: pay rent and start taking care of the kids. You 501 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta put some some some money up, baby. 502 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: Go the straight the straight like uh uh. Eviction like 503 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: high school eviction story style like pay reent, you're. 504 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: Let me know what you think. Put in the comments today. 505 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Fed up by finding my chemistry test online and getting 506 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 507 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: My lazy teacher said, I cheated. Okayop, this is Okayop. 508 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm Samuel Lanner and I'm John Fry and we tell 509 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: the funniest stories on the Internet. 510 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh yes, And Samuel, I have to ask you, what 511 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: is like the best instance of you cheating, like finding 512 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: something online or like just somehow like cheating your way 513 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: through something in school? 514 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: The system to So, we used to have test banks 515 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: at UCLA, right, and there was this one professor that 516 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: literally was ridiculously old senile had checked out of the 517 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: universe like twenty years ago and did not change any 518 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: of his tests ever. And so when I went to 519 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: the test bank and like would pull tests from two thousand, 520 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: the test would be the exact same as the ones 521 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: he would give. So all I would do is just 522 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: like he changes the numbers. Basically, so I do is 523 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: I would just do that test, remember all the answers 524 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: and the formulas that I would need, and then I 525 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: would ace those tests, those engineering tests when I went 526 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: around to them. That is, it's just beautiful when you 527 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: have the answers just right. Yeah, but it's also like, dude, 528 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: those teachers are so lazy. 529 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: Bro. 530 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: Students talk, and if someone finds the test, the whole 531 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: class is going to find the test. 532 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, Samuel, I have another story of someone having a 533 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: chance of luck and also being accused of doing nefarious deeds. 534 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Oh geez, let's hear it. Let's do it today. 535 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: I fed up by finding my chemistry test online and 536 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: getting one hundred percent. 537 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: My lazy teacher said, I cheated. You didn't cheat if 538 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: you found the test online and then got one hundred percent. 539 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Hey, come on, unless those were against the rules. But well, 540 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. 541 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: We're about to find out. So this happened just now. 542 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: My chemistry teacher had the bright idea to let students 543 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: use quote anything except our friends and laptops during our 544 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: final unit exam today, which that's always great. 545 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: One. 546 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the open book open note tests, open 547 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: book baby ooh. I love them, and as can be 548 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: expected from someone as bad as is me, by as, 549 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: I took it a little bit too far. Oh no, few, 550 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: what did you do? 551 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: Her intention was to allow students to use the textbooks 552 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: and their notes to solve the problems. I'm in junior 553 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: high school taking a college level chemistry course. To throw 554 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: us a bone after a really really tough units, so 555 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: what did I do as part of my resources? I 556 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: decided to bring a second test with answers already on 557 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: it from the web, thinking that the types of questions 558 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: asked were likely to be similar and I would have 559 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: a better idea of what to do. 560 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: But super smart, like, that's exactly what you should do. 561 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: You should look at similar tests and take them and 562 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: then eventually, you know, maybe those questions will be similar 563 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: and you'll get a good grade. 564 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Which is a common studying thing. It's like, hey, you 565 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: have like like test, you know, quizzes and stuff with. 566 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: Answer to practice tests. 567 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: That's literally Unfortunately I did not expect my chemistry teacher 568 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: to be as lazy as she is. 569 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, what did the chemistry teacher do? As she 570 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: handed out the test? 571 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I realized something she had exactly the same test that 572 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I had. 573 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you could can't you just feel better 574 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: than google in it? 575 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Apparently no, she had literally just googled the name of 576 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: her course, found the test, printed it, and handed it out. 577 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: Dumb God, I love it. 578 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: All I had to do was copy the answers from 579 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: my already filled in test, finishing miles before everyone else, 580 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: giving me the rest of the period free. 581 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do not fit you. If you got the 582 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: keys to the kingdom, make sure the keys are are 583 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: under wraps and you don't like go like, hey, I 584 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: got the keys of the Kingdom, I'm getting in super quick. 585 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: You gotta cover your tracks. You gotta make sure you 586 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: finish with the rest of them. 587 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: If someone gives you a free Porsche, you pretend to 588 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: fill out the paperwork, okay, like you you cannot just 589 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: like take off so easy and leave yourself Yet, why suspicious? 590 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: So far the story sounds great. As I handed it in, 591 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: she asked if she could see my resources. Oh no, 592 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: and in the resources is the test from Google. My 593 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: face froze, the silence became louder and louder. 594 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: In my ears, time slowed jow. 595 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: She took my packet from my unmoving hands, leafed through it, 596 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: and looked at me straight in the face. 597 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: Hmmm. 598 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Five seconds later, everyone's test is gone and I'm ushered 599 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: to the principal's office. 600 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: But why why? I mean, the teacher said you could 601 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: use anything but your laptop or your friend. There was 602 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: no laptop or friend. As far as I'm aware, I. 603 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Think it was fine by virtue of the fact that 604 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I am on Reddit, I'm already unpopular. Oh, you're popular 605 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: in the okop community. 606 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: You're about to. Yeah, if you want to be really popular, 607 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: join our discord, joined our Patreon, join our discord. There'll 608 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: be other people in the reddit community that will support you. 609 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Everyone will love you. 610 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: By the way, we did have our first OP ever 611 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: respond to one of our stories. Wait really yeah, the 612 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: creepy client with the art. I reached out to them 613 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: to see a full come on the show so TVD but. 614 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: I was sick. That was awesome. That's amazing. 615 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: So we will see what happens to my social life now. Oh, 616 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: I feel for you. 617 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: OP. 618 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Sitting here waiting for her to come back from lunch 619 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: updates to come, and. 620 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: Here is what happened. The update. They update. 621 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: The principal came back and we talked. The teacher said 622 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: that I went beyond the bounds of what twas acceptable. 623 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: What no, no no no no no no no no. What 624 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: you said was acceptable is you could use anything by 625 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: your laptop or your friend. It sounds like it was 626 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: very within the bounds. 627 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: She used a piece of paper, Therefore the contract is intact. 628 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: She said that it was unfair for me to get 629 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent and that. 630 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: I should be punished. 631 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: After arguing for a while, it has been decided that 632 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I am not in trouble and my parents won't be contacted, 633 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: day and anything. 634 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: That teacher should be in trouble for not making the 635 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: test for real. 636 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: That being said, the teacher was violating school rules and 637 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: as a result, everyone had to retake the test without 638 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: any resources. 639 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, I probably made Op even less popular. 640 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah that's uh, I would say the lost kind of 641 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: outways of the win on this one. 642 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Oh no, Op joined our discord. So join the discord. 643 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: We will give you the love and acceptance and open 644 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: arms that that you might be looking for after this. 645 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: At this point, no one is talking to me. Everyone 646 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: hates me and was looking forward to an easy grade. 647 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: The unpopular guy just became even more unpopular. Hopefully she 648 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: won't just google the next test. What a great day everyone. 649 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh I feel bad for o P. Yeah yeah, that's 650 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: rough man, Like. 651 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: You come in thinking like okay here, Like he actually 652 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: didn't have the intention of cheating. 653 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: That No, that's true. Thing, it would have been one thing. 654 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: If like he like knew for sure that it was 655 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: you weren't allowed to do that yet, but. 656 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: He didn't know that. It's like, but even if he did, like, 657 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: there should be something specifically that's said, like you're not 658 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: allowed to do that, Like if you if you say 659 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: the rules or you could use anything but your laptop 660 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: or a friend that those are the rules. 661 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: And and and if you're the teacher that is knowingly 662 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: copying a pasting from the internet, you have to say 663 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: if you find any answers online, they will all be invalid. 664 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like bare minimum you have to pull up so 665 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, talk about plagiarism, like the teacher just plagiarizing 666 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: the test. 667 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: Teachers always out here talking about plagiarism. How Wikipedia, come on, 668 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: come on. I think the thing that we've learned is 669 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: if you want to find a community that supports and 670 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: loves you, join our Patreon and our discord server, because 671 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: we will show you the love and warmth you deserve. Yeah, 672 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: we will join the ranks of Casey's uniforious Devine Muhammad, 673 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Amanda will Connor, Desrae Keegan and the oh G Kathy 674 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: quickly see you there,