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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome to another episode of Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 1: Chris Hary here with you. We're two weeks out from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, bringing on in front of the pod.

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Speaker 1: But Bud will Brinson, CBS Sports Senior Writer, Well, we

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Speaker 1: did this with Ryan. I think we were doing a

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Speaker 1: mock draft exercise about a year ago, talking about Jeff

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Speaker 1: Acuda and Isaiah Simmons and Justin Herbert. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bolts made the right decision. Yeah. Look, you know, Wilson

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Speaker 1: and I were both not extremely high on Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will own this, and to be perfectly frank,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think like the Chargers weren't high enough

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Speaker 1: on Justin Herbert either, because I mean, and I mean

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Speaker 1: that kind of a joking fashion. Obviously, you know, Tom

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Speaker 1: Talaska knew what he's doing because he took him where

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Speaker 1: he did. But you know, I mean he didn't come

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Speaker 1: in until Tyrod Taylor was out, and nobody in their

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Speaker 1: minds couldn't know there's Justin Herbert. Didn't think Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: was gonna do what Justin Herbert did. He Wilson. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Wilson has said this on on on My on the

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Speaker 1: PI six podcast, and it's it's a perfect way to

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Speaker 1: describe it. And this speaks to just what a home

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Speaker 1: run Justin Herbert was. You were hoping if you're the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars that Trevor Lawrence is what Justin Herbert was

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Speaker 1: last year, Like that's what you're hoping for. And all

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Speaker 1: credit to him, because I wouldn't. I was wrong, just

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Speaker 1: like I didn't. I didn't see as my son likes

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Speaker 1: to say, I didn't see that coming. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I didn't see it coming. And I do think

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Speaker 1: it is. Um, if you're a Chargers fan, you have

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Speaker 1: to be excited because they nailed it. And I think

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Speaker 1: we talked about this last year, but it felt it

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Speaker 1: was almost like too obvious, you know, the way that

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Speaker 1: they approached the It was like they just had was

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Speaker 1: it Tyrod Taylor? And who who? Who was on the

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Speaker 1: Easton stick? He says, say, yeah, Sarah Teller and Easton Stick.

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Speaker 1: It was like, all right, this is like this is

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Speaker 1: a like this is a draft like a Deek, like

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Speaker 1: a you know, an Mighty Ducks, like the Triple Deek.

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Speaker 1: This is a draft, a draft Deek by Tom Tolesco

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Speaker 1: to make everybody think he is taking a quarterback when

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Speaker 1: he's but it was just it was it was hiding

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Speaker 1: in plain sight. They were taking a quarterback and they

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Speaker 1: weren't afraid of it. And I think it is It

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Speaker 1: is gonna be fascinating over the course of history, Chris

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Speaker 1: to see not only just you know how Tah and

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Speaker 1: how you know Justin Herbert go like how their careers unfold.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you believe the reports, the Chargers

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Speaker 1: were okay with either guy um suffice to say, it

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Speaker 1: ended up working out pretty well for him. It worked

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Speaker 1: out pretty well, and they've spent the offseason working on

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Speaker 1: protecting him, getting Corey Lindsley and Matt Feiler and Odeabushi

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Speaker 1: across the offensive line. A really just a revamped offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I've hit number thirteen so hard over the last month.

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Speaker 1: Will we've talked about it is gonna be a tackle

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Speaker 1: as a corner, a skill position player. I thought today

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Speaker 1: it'd be a fun exercise just go through the top

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Speaker 1: twelve because that's gonna dictate what the Chargers eventually do.

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Speaker 1: And let's just start at the top. We know what

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is doing. We have a pretty good idea what

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Speaker 1: the Jets are doing number three. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say it's where the draft starts because the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: are gonna take a quarterback. We just don't know which one.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's the most intrigue right now. Who

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Speaker 1: were the forty nine is gonna take you? Hear mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, mac Jones, But we just talked offline. Wait

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Speaker 1: a second, they're justin fields pro Day. Trey Lancis Pro

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Speaker 1: Day's coming up. I don't think the Niners of being

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent honest with the public. So I know

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Speaker 1: this is a team a team podcast, so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to dive too deep into the Vegas market, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the NFL is the NFL's embracing it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pja Torners building a freaking sports book in Scottsdale.

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Speaker 1: And also like the you know, the draft odds is

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Speaker 1: a little like when you see NFL lines, that's indicative

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Speaker 1: lot of times with the draft markets, they're a little

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Speaker 1: more reactive to the rumor mill because you don't you

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Speaker 1: don't know. And this is even more true Chris, I

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Speaker 1: think in twenty twenty one, because there's no combine. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not you know, you're not. You're not

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Speaker 1: As we're talking, Mac Jones is a heavy, heavy, heavy favorite,

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Speaker 1: Now I have this wild, uh you know, hair brain theory,

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Speaker 1: smokescreen theory that I've sort of come up within the

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Speaker 1: wild as I thought. If you're Kyle Shanahan and you

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Speaker 1: trade up to the number three overall pick and you

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Speaker 1: the draft, Yes, what if you let's say you let's

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Speaker 1: say hypothetically he loves justin fields, right, Hypothetically, if you

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Speaker 1: and you let everybody know you want justin fields. You

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Speaker 1: know who's gonna start looking at justin fields? The team

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Speaker 1: at number two, the New York Football Jets, who who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, are entirely staffed by Kyle Shanahan. Former

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan assistance Robert Sala. Mike Mike Laflour has been

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Speaker 1: coaching with Kyle shanahans is twenty fourteen, when he joined

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Speaker 1: love justin fields, you know who's gonna take a hard

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. So if you, if you make the entire

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Speaker 1: You know what, the Jets don't have time to do

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Speaker 1: but it could be Mac Jones. He fits, he fits

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Speaker 1: So let's just say it's Fields for the sake of

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Speaker 1: this conversation. Then it gets really interesting at four. It's

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Speaker 1: They're not taking a thirty million dollars dead cap charge

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Speaker 1: have to sink collected dolphin. Right. If you want to

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Speaker 1: And that's what Mike Brown is. And that front office

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Speaker 1: take Marris Claiborne in twenty twelve lives. So they taken

425
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Speaker 1: two guys since twenty twelve in terms of in terms

426
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: of defensive backs. But I mean, like not typically, and

427
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: they traded up for Claiborne, who they really liked in

428
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: that draft. That was a disaster decision, but that whole

429
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: draft was weird. Um. I think it's so. I think

430
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: it's cornerback or pass rusher here for Dallas. I get

431
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: that they love Kyle Pitts. Look, everyone loves Kyle Pits

432
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I mean, who doesn't when in doubt

433
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: draft Kyle Pitts. I mean, that's a good draft strategy,

434
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: but it's it's not going to help you at ten.

435
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a defensive player here, and if you're Dallas,

436
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: you have to look at what Although I would it

437
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be crazy if they took an offensive lineman. But

438
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I think given they this is a Dallas team that

439
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: just paid Dak a lot of money, they want to

440
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: win and they want to win. Now they have three

441
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: good wide receivers. You know there'll be a decision to

442
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: be made this next offseason about Gallup versus Cooper and

443
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: in which direction they want to go there. But they

444
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: have to feel good about where their offense is. Defensively,

445
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: they can't feel good. So I think this is a

446
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: decision of past rusher or cornerback. And if I'm Dallas,

447
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: I look at the available pass rushers and don't see

448
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: a ton like a blue chip guy. So I go,

449
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: there's not a guy that stands out will Yeah, So

450
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: I go, I think it's certain or horn for them.

451
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: At ten Giants of Philly, the Giants could do anything.

452
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: I think they could continue to bolster the offensive line there.

453
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Dallas. Listen, I think Tyren Smith is thirty,

454
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: but he's he's got a lot of miles on him.

455
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: So I don't think you rule out offensive line for Dallas.

456
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: But but I do think that they lean defense in

457
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Speaker 1: corner the Giants. Who knows man if waddles on the board,

458
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: do you get Jones another weapon? Do you go defense?

459
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Speaker 1: You continue to bolster the old line and then Philly,

460
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine. They've got a

461
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: lot of holes. So I have a really good I

462
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: don't have many talents, but one of my talents, as

463
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: he says, completely out of focus, is that I am

464
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: somehow able to identify exactly Dave Getlman is going to draft.

465
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because I don't like I. Dave Gelman

466
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: is very obvious. He doesn't make any bones about it.

467
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: And I think this offseason has been so abundantly clear

468
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: how Dave Gelman was going to play things. He is

469
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: leaning into. He understands that his jobs on the line,

470
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: like the Giants need to win and his players need

471
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Speaker 1: to be successful. This is a make or break year

472
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Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones, Like look at what he did with

473
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Speaker 1: with um, you know, with freaking uh okay, what's I'm

474
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Speaker 1: forgetting the uh la? Lawrence Um not Lawrence Williams. Leonard Williams.

475
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Speaker 1: How a my friend like he he good money after

476
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: bad and he doesn't care. He's throwing good money after

477
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: bad all day long. And he's gonna do the same

478
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: thing with Daniel Jones. He's going to invest this. This

479
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: pick is one guaranteed to be either an offensive lineman

480
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: or a wide receiver. He is going to do everything

481
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Speaker 1: in his power to help out Daniel Jones. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: I think then it's I think wide receivers can play

483
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: if it's Smith or Waddle. Yeah, But if ifs in

484
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: this situation, is Derressaul still there, I think we have

485
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Derisoul probably still on the board. In this loose mock draft,

486
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: Carolina Carolina is gonna take Slater to Carolina. Carolina goes

487
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: Slater if if one of the if if one of Sewell,

488
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: Slater or Derisaul is there, that's Dave Gentleman's pick. He loves,

489
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Speaker 1: he loves the hog Molly's. They have Andrew Thomas at

490
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Speaker 1: left tackle, who played really well. They need more depth,

491
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: you know. I guess they have Solder who then kick

492
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Speaker 1: over the right side. So it's it's either it's either

493
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Speaker 1: tackle or wide receiver for him. I think it's just

494
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Elijah very Tucker from USC had him in that conversation.

495
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I think Davina Jeremiah said he could he projects as

496
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: like an all pro guard. Uh, he kicked out to

497
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Speaker 1: tackle for USC. I mean that's a guy who has

498
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: that versatility that the Giants. Okay, okay, all right now

499
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: now now we're now we're cooking because it's a guy

500
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: who you can picture the Dave gentleman like Press Coffers.

501
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: He's like this guy, you can see him, and you know,

502
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: we know he can play tackle, but he kicks inside.

503
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: Now we'll move him all around it very you know,

504
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, all right, all right, well let's go Elijah

505
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Verry Tucker here for the Giants. And that makes a

506
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of sense because because it's it fits Dave Gettlman's

507
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: desire to draft a big body guy, but also plays

508
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: himTo the quote unquote need factor where he slides him inside.

509
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: And you know you still have Solder on the you know,

510
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: Solder on the roster. You can play him at right tackle,

511
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Thomas on the left side, hernandez Um on the left

512
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: of Thomas. And all of a sudden, he's talked himself

513
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Speaker 1: into building up this great offensive line. They signed Golladay,

514
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: they bring a John Ross. All right, I see the

515
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: wheels turning. I like this. I love this working mock draft.

516
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: It's just what it's on the fly mock draft situation,

517
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: so living. It's a living document, all right. Before we

518
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Speaker 1: get to the the Chargers, the Eagles, dude, I don't know,

519
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Eagles are gonna do they could,

520
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: they could get a quarterback. I think I think, uh no,

521
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: I think I think Laurie wants him to test out

522
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: um Jalen Hurts and see and see what he can do.

523
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I really believe that. And I also think that, look,

524
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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman survived whatever the hell happened in Philly. I mean,

525
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: you read that athletic article by m. Siel Kipedia and

526
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: the and those guys, and you're like, man, this is

527
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: this is messed up, and Howie Roseman survived it. Howie,

528
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: I think, has to understand how mad fans are with

529
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: him for taking Jailee Reagor over Justin Jefferson and for

530
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: taking jj Arsega Whiteside over DK Metcalf, which were like

531
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Speaker 1: those are It's not like that's hindsight picks. I mean

532
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: those were pretty like pretty obvious choices for the top

533
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver available at the time. And so I think

534
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: if Waddle or Smith are there for twelve, they will

535
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: seriously entertain it because it would appease fans and it

536
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: would bolster hurts. It hurts in twenty twenty one. So

537
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: I think it's abama wide shiver at twelve for them,

538
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: and I think they traded down knowing one of those

539
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: guys will be there. So we get to the Chargers.

540
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, Souls off the board,

541
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: Slaters off the board. We took Vera Tucker off the board.

542
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: That leaves us with JC Horne, who I like a lot. Who.

543
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen a lot of JC Horne football

544
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: down in South Carolina. Uh, Caleb Farley. So so if

545
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: I if I understand this correctly, we are now back

546
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: to the same question you've asked four hundred times, the

547
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: sauce Sason do we go? Do we go dissit? Offensive

548
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: tackle or quarterbacks? And I mean, that's that's what we're

549
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: working with here, because we got we got wide receivers

550
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: off the board. Like I just you know, I heard

551
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley talk about the wide receivers. I got to

552
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: see some of these young guys that the Chargers have.

553
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we know about Keenan Allen and Mike Williams,

554
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Guyton, and Tyron Johnson. Those guys are speedsters. They're

555
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: undraft free agents. What was Guyden's yards per catch last year?

556
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: Like forty two and a half or something. I mean

557
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: saying Tyran Johnson his first five catches in the NFL,

558
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: four of them went for fifty or more yards, and

559
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: then Jalen Guyton seventy plus yard touchdowns. I didn't get

560
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: two of them, so okay, he actually he actually did

561
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: average Jalen Guyton average this is insane. Thirty one point

562
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: nine yards per catch last year. I mean, what do

563
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I want to wait? What the hell? That's it's it's unbelievable.

564
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: So so you got Guyton at Johnson, you got speedzers,

565
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: you got Mike Williams, who I'm really excited about this year,

566
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: and then Keenan Allen. Do you need another weapon if

567
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: you want to maybe try to outscore Kansas City? Possibly?

568
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Or do you get that guy like j. C. Horne

569
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: who could shut down one side of the field, You

570
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: get Derwin James back Um that Russian cover worked together

571
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: with Bosa in a in a shutdown corner and Derwin

572
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: kind of flying around everywhere. Or do you feel that

573
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: that whole left tackle with a guy like Christian Drysel. Yeah,

574
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's it really is. It's a tough question,

575
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: and I think I think that they'll probably go best

576
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: player of level. I don't think they take a wide

577
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: receiver here. You know this everything you hear when you

578
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: look at the class one and then what you hear

579
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: from people around the league is that you know, this

580
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: is a really deep wide receiver class. It's a really

581
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: talented wide receiver class. They're gonna be really good players

582
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: available in the second and third round at wide receiver

583
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: and you're not drafting, Like, look, if you know if

584
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: again it's back to the Kyle Pitts thing, like if

585
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase falls to thirteen, you know the Chargers will

586
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: take him because they're not idiots. I mean, you know,

587
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: you like if there's somebody that you believe is a

588
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: true elite, you know number one. I mean like if

589
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: Devanta smissed there, maybe they take him too. I just think,

590
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the quarterback discussion we had. You

591
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: don't you don't draft you know rondel Moore at thirteen

592
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: to play fifty percent of the snaps next year behind

593
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. Now injuries happen. You need depth.

594
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: It's very important. But I think you're on it when

595
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: you when you look at how their confidence level at

596
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: the at the weapons there, they could take one wouldn't

597
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: surprise me. But you're talking about making you know, Justin

598
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Herbert better. You know, tackles. That's an important position. Herbert's

599
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: got great mobility, but you want to protect him. I mean,

600
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: look at what happened to Joe Burrow with the bad

601
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: offensive line. So I thought the Corey Lensley signing maybe

602
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: my favorite free agent signing of the entire offseason. It's

603
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: great signing. Its signing like you you just do you know,

604
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Herbert looks and plays a lot like

605
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and you just went and got Aaron Rodgers,

606
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: long time center. And you know who's a veteran who's smart,

607
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna help help him develop like that. I

608
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: think that's an underrated move in terms of growth and

609
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: development for young quarterback is getting them a center, you

610
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: know something like I mean, look his hands it is

611
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: but like seventy you know, sixty percent of the year,

612
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Like you're pretty close with your center, right, And I

613
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: think people don't talk about that. I mean, like you

614
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: you need that's an important part and an important aspect

615
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: of the development of a young quarterback. So you do

616
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: that and then you can go out and get here

617
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you get a stud left tackle. If you want, I

618
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: would go darisall here instead of jac Horn, But I

619
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: don't wouldn't begrudge the Chargers for for either one of

620
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: those moves. And keep in mind too, you know, we

621
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Speaker 1: didn't take trades into account. The chargers have nine selections

622
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: in this trap. If they're really in love with somebody,

623
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: they may have the ammunition to move up, or frankly,

624
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: if they think they can wait, maybe they move back.

625
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: You know. So it's it's an interesting spot to be

626
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: in because of everything we talked about it. You would

627
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: you would you would know this better than me and

628
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I and I could be dead wrong on this. Has

629
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Speaker 1: has Tom to LESCo ever traded? Has he ever moved

630
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: he so they first first round? He moved into the

631
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: first round last year to get Kenneth Murray? So oh, Rember,

632
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: all right? So they got they got Herbert and then

633
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: they moved in to get Murray. Okay, but but this

634
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is this is my question. Has he ever moved around

635
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: his initial first round pick? I feel like the answer

636
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: is no, But I could I have? I had? You

637
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: know what, you stump me because I don't know if

638
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: if in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen. So I don't know.

639
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: I have to I'll have to check. I'll put this

640
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter afterwards. Okay, So I know that they didn't

641
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: move for Herbert, they didn't move for Tillery, right, No, no, no, no,

642
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: they stayed. They didn't move for Derwin because there's a

643
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: steel in the draft. It was like, what is he

644
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: doing there at seventeen? They didn't that I know, since

645
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean they stood pad for Bosa, did they stay?

646
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Did they move from Melvill Gordon? No? They stood, they sat.

647
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: That's the one. That's the one year. I'm not sure.

648
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: I have to I have to check, Okay. I mean,

649
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: and I wasn't try to put you on the spot

650
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: because I didn't know the answer. But I feel like

651
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's sort of people don't talk about

652
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: this enough, like Tom Telesco doesn't and there's nothing wrong

653
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: with it. Like I feel like he doesn't move in

654
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: that first round, Like I think he sort of builds

655
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: his big board and it's like, all right, I know

656
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: how this is gonna play out, and I think this

657
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: is a prime spot for it too. Now I think of,

658
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, if Trey lances on the board and Washington

659
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: offers him some kind of crazy deal to move back

660
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: to nineteen. I think, given how this is sort of

661
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: playing out, that he'd be willing to do it because

662
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: of the depth that the positions are looking at. But

663
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: I think this is a to me, it's a it's

664
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: a good spot if you're lost ange if you're the

665
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: Chargers sitting pick like and we talked about this a

666
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: little bit before the before the pod, like twenty seventeen.

667
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. Actually Mike Williams is one of the guys,

668
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, John Ross, Christian McCaffrey, Leoni Fournette. There's one

669
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: board guy that I'm forgetting about. San Qua Barcley goes early.

670
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: All these running backs and wide receivers came off the

671
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: board really early, and it pushed a bunch of good

672
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: defensive players, like I know, Hassan Reddick didn't work out

673
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, but Asan Reddick, Derek Barnett, who's played

674
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: really well for the Eagles, and then Marshall Lattimore was

675
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: an All Pro cornerback. All those guys fell down the board.

676
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: In fact, some of the like Patrick Maholmes and Deshaun

677
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Watson fell and so I think there's some of that

678
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: happening in this draft with the quarterbacks up top and

679
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: then with these offense, Like just because of the way

680
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that need and the skill level of these certain positions

681
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: works out in this draft, offensive linemen and wide receivers

682
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: are gonna push these defensive players down. Like, we don't

683
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: have a defensive player going until ten. So if you're

684
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: sitting at thirteen, you're getting. If you're sitting at thirteen,

685
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: you're getting one of the three best defensive players in

686
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: the draft. Get almost guaranteed in this situation. And so

687
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: I and in worst case, you take an offensive lineman.

688
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: So I think this is one where if you're in

689
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: the ten to fifteen range or ten to fourteen range,

690
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: New England's a wild card, you're feeling like, all right,

691
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: let's just sit here, let's let's get on, let's get on,

692
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Let's let people get on the clock, see what kind

693
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff happens, and just see who might fall

694
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, and maybe just take your guy, the

695
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: guy that you wanted from from from jump, and you

696
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: know I'll get you out. You I've kept you a

697
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: much longer than I thought I'm going to. But let's

698
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: say j c. Horne is there. You Brandon Staley in

699
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: his work with a lot of defensive players, he talked

700
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: about the track record of success that he's had with

701
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: with dbs and edge guys. I'm just envisioning a secondary

702
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: with let's say it's JC Horn and Darwin James and

703
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Mike Davis who they brought back in free agency on

704
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: the other side, and then a healthy Joey Bosa. This

705
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: is the thing. Well, I and fans have heard me

706
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: say this, probably at nauseum, but Joey Bosa and Derwin

707
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: James have not been on the field together one hundred percent.

708
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Like it's just it hasn't happened. It has a twenty

709
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: eighteen when Darwin was the first team All pros a rookie,

710
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Joey was out for the first eleven weeks. Wasn't one

711
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: hundred percent At the end of the year, you know,

712
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: he's working his way back from an injury. The next year,

713
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Darwin's out for the first eleven games, Joey has this

714
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: big year, Durwin comes back, it's too late, they're out

715
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: of the playoff hunt. And then last year Drwin missed

716
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: of all of twenty twenty. So I just to see

717
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and Derwin James healthy. And if you can

718
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: add a piece like a J. C. Horn or Caleb

719
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: Farley or Patrick Surtanum or even a guy in the

720
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: second round, I'm just I'm really excited to see with

721
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: his defense looks like And I'll get you out here

722
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: on this. You know, Keneth Murray, Drew Trank will Uh

723
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: some of these guys that have flashed in their first

724
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: in second years. Uh, what do you think the Chargers

725
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: need to do to keep up? It potentially beat the

726
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs in the a f C West one of these years,

727
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: maybe in twenty twenty one. All right, So, like I am,

728
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm well known for having a long, um you know,

729
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: at times love hate relationship with the San Diego and

730
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: now Los Angeles Chargers. Philip Rivers I have look, I mean,

731
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: look over my left my left shoulder, there's a Philip

732
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Rivers char Philip Rivers Charger at all that My wonderful

733
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: wife and Ka got me h for Christmas one year.

734
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: But it was it was the year when um the

735
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Chargers beat Lamar Jackson and the Ravens in the playoffs. Um,

736
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: like I like I when Field did the first down

737
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: when he and UM, I look, I gotta be honest

738
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: like I thought I was. I thought I was. I

739
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: thought I was out. Um not not out of the Chargers,

740
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: but you know I thought I thought, you know, I was. Yeah,

741
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: try we we We've got our separate ways. I might

742
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: be back in, like I might do something stupid like

743
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: pick the Chargers in the Rams to play in the

744
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um in the in in Los Angeles in

745
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Like why why wouldn't I do something

746
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: dumb like that? I really think when you look at

747
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: this defense that I mean, you're a spot on. You know,

748
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: if Bosa and Derwin James are play sixteen games each

749
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: and you have Kenneth Murray taking you know he was

750
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: good as rookie here, it takes a step forward and

751
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: this year Adderley underrated. Chris Harris criminally underrated in the

752
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: pantheon of cornerbacks. Love Chris Harris, Um, Cherry Tillery, Let's

753
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: not sleep on my boy. Justin Jones in the interior

754
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: there kind of also was another guy. Dustin Jones is

755
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: another guy who I can see taking a big step

756
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: into the offense. And you to mention Hillary like Brandon's

757
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Daley's pretty high on Jerry Tillery in his game and

758
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: what he can do on the interior. So Joes and

759
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Tillery and then Livell Joseph too, the big shout out

760
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: East Carolina University. That's right, I mean like Bosa, Limvell, Joseph,

761
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Justin Jones and Jerry Hillery, I mean Jerry Tillery, Like

762
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that's like, that's a better defense, I think brand I

763
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: think that's what intrigues me about Brandon Daley the most,

764
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know that people really understand what

765
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: a job he did with that Rams defense. I mean,

766
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: he followed up Wade Phillips like maybe the best defensive

767
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: coordinator of all time, stepped in to fill his shoes

768
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: first time defensive coordinator and got the absolute apex performance

769
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: from elite, Like elite, like we're talking about the sort

770
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: of I know that it's not Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey,

771
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: but Joey Bosa, Derwin James, Like it's the same sort

772
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: of thing you're talking about, and elite like one of

773
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: a top five safety of top I mean maybe the

774
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean a top five defensive back in the league

775
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: if he's one hundred percent Derwin James who was one

776
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: of my three favorite players coming out of the draft,

777
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the five best edge rushers

778
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: in the league if he's one hundred percent in Joey Bosa.

779
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: So you put that in place and have a couple

780
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: of guys take up a leap forward and you got

781
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, a stud young linebacker. Dude, this could be

782
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: the best defensive football if everyone is healthy. And so

783
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: I am fascinated by what Brandy Staley does from that perspective,

784
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: and then you know, can you just I don't think

785
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Justin Herbert can do what he did

786
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: last year again because it I mean, like really, like

787
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: you gotta just is that just who he is? That's

788
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: the bar high man. You thirty one touchdowns to nine

789
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: different receivers. You elevated to play with everybody around you.

790
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be I listen, I think it's the real deal.

791
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: But what what was Oregon doing? Like I I have

792
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I have, I have, I need answers from Mario Cristo

793
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: ball in Oregon as to what was going on and

794
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: wherever Oregon plays, whatever city they're in, Like what why

795
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: where was that? Like? Will you do? That? Thing? Is

796
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: too it is I think we underestimated the fact that

797
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had Justin Jefferson and Chase and Clyde Edwards,

798
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Hilaire and Tua had Judy and Rugs, and these two

799
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: guys that are coming out, Uh, Justin didn't have those weapons.

800
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: So when you throw him into an offense with with

801
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and Austin Eckler flying around

802
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry last year, you know, you saw what happened.

803
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: And I think what's more fascinating, no, is that you

804
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: got introduced to these new characters that we didn't know

805
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: anything about. Guys he was throwing to a training camp

806
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: in Guiton and Williams and Donald Parham from the XFL

807
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: the six eight tight End. I mean he was he

808
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: was making he was making names for guys, do you.

809
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, for by the way, Adam Levitan and Evan

810
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Silva of established a run. I don't know if you

811
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: read their but they did great daily like great dfs

812
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: and regular fantasy stuff. They are They're the ultimate Donald

813
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: Parham truthers, like they run the Donald Paramata Club. Yeah,

814
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: so like make sure keep an eye off and then

815
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: the chargers phase need to check that out because they

816
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: are Donald Parham truthers, and they're not wrong about him.

817
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: I think what's really interesting about Herbert this year and

818
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: and this is my one. Like I said, I wasn't

819
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: high I wasn't high enough on Justin Herbert obviously coming

820
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: out of the coming into the draft when when the

821
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Chargers took him, And like, I think this is what

822
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn did really well that that doesn't get enough credit.

823
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Is that that system that he wanted to run with

824
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, and that was perfect for Justin Herbert, right,

825
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: Like get on the move, use his legs, let him

826
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: throw downfield and attack that way. And I think Brandon Staley,

827
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: who just worked with Sean mcpah, you know, is going

828
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: to be smart enough to play to Justin Herbert's strength.

829
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's gonna take some step, huge

830
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: step back. I just think statistically there might be some

831
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, regression, because that's how football works a lot

832
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: of times. But back to the original question, this Chargers

833
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: team could be the Chiefs this year? Why not? Like

834
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: why not? Why? I mean the Chiefs, the Chiefs, you know,

835
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs. We thought the Chiefs were immortal and

836
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: then they bled in the Super Bowl, like we saw.

837
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: You know, you you can beat the Chiefs. They are

838
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: not they are not unstoppable. And yeah, Herbert had him

839
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: on the ropes. It was it was his first start, right,

840
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't et supposed to say, he wasn't even starting

841
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: until like seven minutes before the game. Yeah, so why

842
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: his first drive in the NFL? I think like seven place,

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Speaker 1: sixty nine yards touchdown. Yeah, you're beating the Chiefs. They

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Speaker 1: led wire to wire in that game. So we we

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Speaker 1: haven't we haven't really had our true Mahomes Herbert matchup, Right,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be like that in Week two.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that way in Week seventeen because because Mahomes

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Speaker 1: sat out. So at some point I'm sure it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on primetime on Sunday Night or Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm excited for those matchups for the

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Speaker 1: next decade Mahomes Herbert becauseating Chargers fans should be very

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Speaker 1: like it sucks to be in a division with Mahomes

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Speaker 1: because you feel like you're planning for second place a lot.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm a Chargers fan, I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: i feel like this team has a legitimate chance to

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Speaker 1: challenge the Chiefs, not just on a you know, weekly

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Speaker 1: game by game basis, but on a season long basis.

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Speaker 1: If Brandon Staley is who we think he is, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think you see it from the

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Speaker 1: just the way he approaches it, like a sort of

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Speaker 1: of see it in the way that he approaches his

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Speaker 1: I think if if Justin Herbert is who we saw

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Speaker 1: this team has a chance to be really, really good,

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna do something stupid to pick them

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Speaker 1: to win the division and get made fun of for

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Speaker 1: when the Chiefs won it again next year. Well, last

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Speaker 1: two things. First, I need a suggestion for the title

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. I don't know it's a rolling mock,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but but you also

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Speaker 1: have to promote Pick six, your Pick six pod when

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Speaker 1: it is and what we can expect from you in

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Speaker 1: the next few weeks lead up to the draft. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you like a rambling wreck, we call

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Speaker 1: it rambling rambling wreck, rambling rambling rack mock. It's like

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Speaker 1: all all d tech players. If you like a rambling

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Speaker 1: wreck of a podcast, and the Pick six podcast is

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Speaker 1: for you. It's a daily NFL podcast that I host

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Speaker 1: all at CBS Sports and uh like literally every day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just we crank out new content. We did all We

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Speaker 1: did h five quarterback profiles, individual breakdowns, like twenty minute

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Speaker 1: shows this past week where we looked at you know,

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Speaker 1: we had different guys come at, different draft analysts come

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Speaker 1: in and break down each of those guys. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: of course we'll we do in recaps from every single

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Speaker 1: round and uh yeah, I rambling rack. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's a rambling mock. It's it's something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a very loose mock. I don't know, something like that.

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Speaker 1: It was fun, dude, I listen. I always loved doing

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Speaker 1: this with you. Were I said, yeah, keep you to

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. We were like an hour man. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't. They want to meet. They wanted my podcast

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Speaker 1: to be a thirty minute daily podcast. I was like

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. We're gonna got up right, right right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Well, I love it, man. I My hope

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Speaker 1: is that I get to see you out at so

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Speaker 1: Fi Stadium at some point when we get back to normal,

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Speaker 1: maybe this year, in the coming years, get you out

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Speaker 1: here super Bowl something. Maybe maybe maybe we'll be there

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Speaker 1: covering the Chargers in the Super Bowl. Chris, I love it, brother,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, and this is gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Will Brinson for joining me, and of

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Speaker 1: course thanks to you all for listening. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. Also check us out on YouTube. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend, and until next time, I'm Chris Hayn.