1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: My Peppy said, son, you're gonna drive me to drinking 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: if you don't stop driving out hot rod Lincoln ron Anian. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: New means never ever worked. Now new means never ever worked. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the right part because maybe somebody 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: switched it and didn't allow it to be proper in 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the way that it was both the function man live. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: I shoved it home down in to overdrive the car Doctor. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: This is a five speed manual trans or a five 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: speed automatic. Gary, Well, if you're putting it in any 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: gear and it doesn't move, why haven't we asked ourselves 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: and the possibility about why wouldn't it need a clutch? 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Nian the 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage to orders are open, 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls. At eight 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: five five and now he running. Hey, hey, hey, Ronny 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: in the car doct here here cooking along and ready 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: to go this hour six nine nine zero zero, here 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to talk to you about your car problem. Whatever it 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: is you've got going on, a couple of great stories 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this week. I've got the answer 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: to the why our spendometer is allowed to go up 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to a hundred and forty miles per hour, and it's 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: it's an answer that really makes sense. We're gonna talk 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: about that a little bit later on this hour. We're 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: also gonna talk about the missing extension quarter. I heard 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: a great story at the Delhi this morning when I 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: went to breakfast, and that we were sitting around and 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: having our usual car talk and JB was telling me 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: the story about his girlfriend, his fiances brand new Jeep 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Grand Cherokee Diesel and why it wouldn't start this week 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: and the bitter cold, and um, it's a it's a 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: real shocker as to why, because it was the case 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: of the missing part. We're gonna talk about that, but 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: right now, let's kick open the garage doors because the 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: phone lines are lit up, backed up and ready to go. 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Bill Brighton Michigan two 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: thousand two, Pontiac Grand Prix. Bill, Welcome back to the 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir. Before we start, how cold is it 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: in Michigan today? As afraid you'd ask ron. It was 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: about five below when I get up this morning. We're 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: all the way up to eleven degrees at the moment. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: Now is that windshill? Bill? Or is that? Oh? No, no, 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: we we got the fifteen windshill? Hello, jeez? Anybody going 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: out today? Or is it just that we're all gonna 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: hang out aroundside the house? We got the fire going 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: and we're hanging out. Yeah, I can imagine. So what's 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: going on with the car? Standard three eight V six 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: No superchargerd on the vehicle hundred thousand in this particular 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: motor code? Is a P one three six two crank 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: physition censor stuff? I thought that was ignition control module? Um, 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: well it could be this is this is a normally 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: aspirator or a supercharged version normally? Okay? Um, and what 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: have you done to it so far? Let's I wanted 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to get your expertise before I dive in stainless as possible? 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Are you getting a thirteen sixty one? No? I'm not, 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: And that's what bothered me. As they're supposed to come 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: together when you have a short Dan, let me ask 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: you this, Bill, have you well? Okay, let's do this 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's let's start at the beginning. This can be a 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: combination of cam, crank or ignition module. This can be 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: a couple of things. It's an erratic signal, it's a 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: single problem. Something's not interpreting correctly. Okay, um is where 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: the basic fault is. Thirteen sixty two Um is pretty common, 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: but it's usually accompanied by the thirteen sixty one. That's 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: what's kind of got me. So where I would go is, 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: let's verify signal. Let's you know, do you have the 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: capability for a lapscope? I think you do, don't you? Um, 71 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: why don't we take a look at the Why don't 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: we take a look at the at the cam and 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the crank and make sure we've got our three times 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: in our eighteen times crank signals and make sure they're good, 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: clean square information. Let's look at both of them. Um. 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: You know, just because just because one hasn't set a 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: fault doesn't mean it's not about to. You know, my 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: conversation about the parameters of how a code gets set. Now, 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: it could be if the thirteen sixty two is now 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: in a thirteen sixty one is coming, maybe we do 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: have an ignition module fault. The issue is the ignition 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: module UM has separate power and ground circuits, and the 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: circuits between the agnition control module and the PCM are 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: are seeing a problem all right. The ignition control module 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: will send, for example, that three times signal out to 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: the PCM, and then the PCM makes a timing change 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: during cranking. All right. Um. It's it's a case that 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to get caught up in 89 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: if we've got garbage going in, maybe we've got garbage 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: going out. So the first thing I do is, let's 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: let's waive both sensors. Let me ask you this. Have 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: you cleared the code and try to get it to 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: come back. No, I have not run. I've been so 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: better cold here, and this is not a vehicle I 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: use very often, right, Um. You know that's that's that 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: step two. I mean, by by definition thirteen sixty two, 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: the powertrain control module sees a short in the voltage 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: signal in the ignition in the ignition module timing circuit. 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: All right, um, But I've also seen it where an 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: erratic crank sensor will cause that fault as well, because 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: it's garbage in garbage out. All right, So let's eliminate 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: cam and crank and then work our way up towards 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and and we'll go from there, all right, and I 104 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I will give you a follow up and 105 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: see how we do here, right, And you've got my 106 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: email if you need me, right you know, ron ronnet 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: card Doctor show dot com, and will send you some 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: more information. But I would I would start the game 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: from there, all right. Listen, stay warm, good luck, Bill, 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: al right, take good care. Let's go over the line 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: to Jerry in New Hampshire with some questions about han 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: to fit. Jerry, welcome. You're on with the car doctor. 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: How can I help run? I've got a remote saturn 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: this thing? Okay, uh when I bought it the guy, 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: so it doesn't work. There's another battery in it. I 116 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: never heard of another battery in it. But I followed 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the line. I can't find another battery in line? Let 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: me what what? What? What? Wayne? And Jerry? What's that 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you bought this car used and you remote starter in it? Right? 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: And not the people that put it in a not 121 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: in business some more. Oh so now he says there's 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: a battery and in someplace. I says why. He says, yeah, 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: he's a battery someplace in it. I never heard of it. Yeah, 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: and I've never heard of I've never heard of or 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: seen why we would add a secondary battery. He's saying, 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: there's a secondary battery to crank the starter. Well, they'll 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: turn over, okay, but it won't stop. I'll press the button, 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: he'll turn but it just won't stop. Okay, But if 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: you turn it with the key it will. It will 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: sounds to me if I were if I were taking 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: a guess from my chair here, the thing I would 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: be thinking about is do we have a problem with 133 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: the security system of the vehicle in that if the 134 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: vehicle turns over, the engine cranks normally, as if the 135 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: key were in the ignition Jerry, Just so I understand that, right, 136 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it won't fire. If it won't fire and the key 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: cranks normal, then and the or the vehicle cranks normal, 138 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna think, do I have a security fault 139 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: that it won't allow the injectors to turn on? And 140 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: why do I have the security fault? Did? Is there 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: something in either the programming or is there something with 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: the add on remote starter that won't allow that to exist? Um? 143 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Did the programming change now normally it'll start and then 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: the vehicle won't go anywhere until you put the key 145 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: in the ignition. So unfortunately, you've really got to get 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: ahold of listen, do this, stick your head under the 147 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: dashboard on the driver's side. There's gotta be an add 148 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: on module. There's gotta be something hanging down that you 149 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: can get a model name or a manufacturer name and 150 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: then google that. Now, maybe the installers not in business anymore, 151 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say I hope that the manufacturer is 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: still in nos you know, let's look at it like 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: this way, Jerry, he just bought the car, right, it's 154 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: only if if the manufacturer of that remote start really 155 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: is not in business anymore. For a couple of hundred bucks, 156 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: let's get it out and let's get something in from 157 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: a manufacturer that designs something properly, and they'll stick around 158 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: and be in business. Because you don't want to have 159 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: any problems because my next question is how cold is 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: it up there in New Hampshire today? And that's today, 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: what's it gonna be tonight? Six below? Right? Yeah, So 162 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: so we kind of don't want to have a problem 163 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: with starting and and car issues and so forth. Not 164 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: in the cold weather and in the warm weather, hey 165 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: pull over by the side of the road, but take 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: the lawn chair out of the trunk and get some 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: raised while the waiting for the tow truck. So let's 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: see what model of remote start is in that vehicle 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: and what manufacturer. If the manufacturers around I guarantee you 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tech line that they're gonna have 171 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: an access for information on the web. And maybe this 172 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: is something the programming and the module changed. And if 173 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: it's not that, then the tech line should be able 174 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: to give you some further information. But I wouldn't. I 175 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't keep an aftermarket add on remote starter in a 176 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: vehicle without information if it's giving me problems. I'm one 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: of those guys that I take it out to be, 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you know beforehand, Right, Okay, So that's that's what I 179 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: was thinking of doing. Maybe just instead of looking around, 180 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: maybe just put a new one in And you could 181 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: do that too, But by the same token, you could 182 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: have a very good one there that there's absolutely nothing 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: wrong with. That's a name brand. For all you know, 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy the exact same model of what you 185 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: have in there. It's just you're gonna buy an owner's 186 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: manual with it. So maybe this way you can get 187 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: our owner's manual without spending any money. All right, look 188 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: into that. I'm here. If you need me, Jerry, give 189 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: me a call zero. 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This 200 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: radio show is here for you to help solve your problem. 201 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: We mean that and we take that very seriously. As 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: we enter our twenty four year we were just figuring 203 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: that out, um be prior to the show today that 204 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we're almost we've almost been doing this twenty five years. 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Time to retire, No, No, I want to. I like 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: getting together with Fast Harry and Tony on on the weekend. 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: It gives us all something to do. Tom, not so much? Yeah, Tom, 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I love you too, Tom. I'm runing any in the 209 00:10:37,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: car doctor, will all be back right after this. Welcome 210 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: back the car Doctor, cruising along at eight five five zero. 211 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: So how come a spedometer is allowed or designed to 212 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: go to a hundred and forty? You ever think about that? 213 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: It'll read a hundred and forty or a hundred and 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: sixty or a hundred and eighty. And then why does 215 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: an oil pressure gauge go from zero to one hundred 216 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: but the engine doesn't make anywheres near a hundred p 217 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: s I worth of oil pressure? I got the answer. 218 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you right now. Let's stick around, 219 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Let's get over and 220 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: talk to Theodora in Hawaii. I don't want to ask 221 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Theodora how warm it is there, because I know what 222 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: this answer is gonna be. Theodora, Welcome to the car doctor. 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: How are you today? Yeah? Ok? Ahead, and tell us 224 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: how how what's the weather like in Hawaii today? On 225 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the island I'm on, which they probably are all pretty 226 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: much the same. Listen, do you think you could use 227 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: a radio? Showed a door? Remote from Hawaii. I'm volune. 228 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm volunteering. If somebody wants to send us some tickets, 229 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I'll even put the crew up. We just need a 230 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: way to get there. Um. Is this the cold season 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: for you guys? Now? I mean, is it gonna stay 232 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: at eighty or is this like is this like summer 233 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: for you? No, we're sort of like eighty year round, 234 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: give or take max twenty degrees blue sky. This is 235 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: our winter from from Christmas on till about June. We 236 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: go into spring and summer just like you folks do, 237 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: except we never get the ninety the degrees. You know, 238 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: it never gets that hot and it never gets as 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: cold as it does stay in Colorado. We're basically a 240 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: main temperature of eighty degrees on all the seven islands. Okay, 241 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: now now, now, well that's okay, listen, I deserve it. 242 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I asked for it, right, I said, I'm not gonna ask, 243 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: and I asked, so well, it is good for you. 244 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. We'll think about you as 245 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: we're freezing here. I'm it's been here thirty years. Temperature. 246 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Take it. Yeah, we'll take it. Boy, Let me tell you, 247 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: we'll take it. Anyway, how can I help you in 248 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: your car? Theodor Well, I was driving along and my 249 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: passenger was upset with me, reached over pulled out the 250 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: key from the ignition. While the car was moving at 251 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: about at about I took the first right turn to 252 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: get out of the very busy street I was on, 253 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: and uh, the car mumbled and grumbled, and it heaved 254 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: and it rocked back and forth, and it died before 255 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: I made the complete turn. I almost went into the 256 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: adjacent curb. So I got through that, and about two 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: minutes later I started it up and drove on home 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: with my passenger. And then about four days later, the 259 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: oil indicator, that little hand stopped indicating it went to 260 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the right and it disappeared beneath the dashboard. So I 261 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: never saw it again. Now and then it peaks, It 262 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: will come up and show its head and go back down, 263 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: but it never gives me the oil tamp. And also 264 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: when I turned on my headlights, I have an indicator 265 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: in my car, uh, in another little window. This car 266 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: is twenty three years old. It's Oldsmobile Royal. And when 267 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: this is an old car, but it's a very pretty car, 268 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: and it was a good car and then I found 269 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: that my temperature, my mileage, my speedo speedometer is going 270 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: all the way from the left of zero, and it 271 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of stays at twenty no matter how far fast 272 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I go. And about ten fifty miles down the road, 273 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: it pops up and it either goes back and forth 274 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: very crazy, you know, like a marriage. It's going right 275 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and left, right and left, right and left, and then 276 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,239 Speaker 1: it stops at Then it gives me the right mileage 277 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: in like forty miles, but it hadn't indicated for something 278 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: like twelve minute. Your question to me, Well, then when 279 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: I turned on the lights, my my clock doesn't work. 280 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: And when I turned off the lights, my clockwork. So 281 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that what happened was that this 282 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: person I was told that there is a wiring harness 283 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: right behind the key, because remember she pulled out the 284 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: key all the car was running, and I was told, 285 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you need to do wiring harness. It's a small one 286 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: behind the key. They put it in. It changed nothing. 287 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: And then I was told by the same people, you 288 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: probably need a wiring harness for the entire death. And 289 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: you may have totaled the car because it maybe fifteen 290 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, Um, the reason is the reason the 291 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: key came out, that the ignition key itself is worn. 292 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Is it a worn kid? Well, I've got about three 293 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: of them, and I've tried them all with the same results. Well, well, 294 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: will all the keys come out while the car is running? 295 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: None of them? Do none of them? Do you have 296 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: to turn the key down to it like a lower gear? Okay? So, 297 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: in other words, did she turn the car off to 298 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: pull the key out or you're saying what I was driving? 299 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: I was, the motor was going, so she had no 300 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: control of turning the car off. You reached over from 301 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: the passenger side and jiggled the key, and I said, 302 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: leave them alone, don't do that, don't do that, and 303 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: she had it up in the air. Oh so she 304 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: just must have caught the warrant key just enough. I 305 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: don't think the key has anything to do with your 306 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: spinometer problem, all right, what what's what was very common 307 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: back in the day was those clusters had their issues, 308 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: that instrument cluster. And I'd be willing to bet this 309 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: is more coincidence than any anything else, because unless something 310 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: was physically pulled out of the column or physically pulled 311 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: out of the ignition switch when she pulled out the key. 312 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: If the only thing that came out was the key itself, 313 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: like Jack Horner and his thumb with the plumb pie, 314 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: if that was if that's the only thing that came out, 315 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: then it's just the mechanical interaction of the key with 316 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: the ignition tumblers. I don't see any connection with wiring 317 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: harnesses or anything else. And before I started condemning wiring harnesses, 318 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: unless I looked under the dash and something looked burnt, 319 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: or something smelled burned, something appeared shorted, I would send 320 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: that cluster out to a to an instrument cluster repair 321 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: facility and asked them to go through it and make 322 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: sure everything is calibrated and working as required. Very common, 323 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: not an uncommon fault on that generation vehicle or a 324 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: new generation vehicle. Name. Okay, so I have the old cluster, 325 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: the new clusters, the new clusters in place the old 326 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: clusters in the back seats they put in the old one. 327 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Well what they put a new They put a new 328 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: cluster in the car. They put a new key cluster. 329 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: There's a cluster right behind the key. No no, no, apparently, 330 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no no. When I say cluster. 331 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the gauge. Is the spinometer the oil pressure? No, no, no, 332 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: they lifted in. What I'm talking about is the wiring 333 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: harness behind the key. No, that's got nothing to do 334 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: with this. I want you to find a a a 335 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: gauge repair facility, somebody that will check and make sure 336 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: the calibration of the speedo and the temp gages that 337 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: are giving you problems are calibrated correctly, and I bet 338 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: that solves it for you. You've got my email, We'll 339 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: go from there. I'm on any of the car Doctor 340 00:18:46,760 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: We're back right after this custs. Welcome back. What do 341 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: you need the car Doctor here? Eight five five five 342 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: six zero is the phone number. The website's Car Doctor 343 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Show dot com and you can find more information there 344 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: as well as get out to iHeart dot com and 345 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: iTunes dot com if you're looking for podcasts to subscribe 346 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: to depending upon your device. Hey, so, I'll give you 347 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: the answer. Why do spitometers get to be calibrated to 348 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty or a hundred and sixty or 349 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: some ridiculous number that unless you're running down to the 350 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: store for a gallon of milk, you're never really gonna 351 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: hit that speed. Well, I've seen how people drive im 352 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: from Jersey. Um, you know, why do they go up 353 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: to a hundred forty miles an hour? Why do oil 354 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: pressure gauges go up to a hundred pounds? The answer 355 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: is because gauges, not just on cars but on the 356 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: majority of things, are designed to operate with the best 357 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: calibration in the middle of their range. So the majority 358 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: of people drive between forty and eighty miles an hour. 359 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: That's where we want the the degree of accuracy to 360 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: be the greatest. How many people drive it a hundred 361 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: and twenty on a regular basis? You know, maybe down 362 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: Texas Way, but you know, not up here because there's 363 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: no room. You can't drive that fast. But uh, it's 364 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: a case that they designed them two operate. They're looking 365 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: for accuracy in the middle of their range, and if 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: they have to go to one forty to get it 367 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: or a hundred pounds or whatever the numbers are, that's 368 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: why they do it. Now, some of it's marketing too, 369 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. I can't give you a scientific 370 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: answer for that. But you know, we we came to 371 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: this conclusion after doing some reading and research, and I 372 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: actually got the best answer that led me to this 373 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: from a friend who operates an old steam locomotive. And 374 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: his answer was that, you know, two hundred years ago, 375 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years ago, with steam locomotives, they 376 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: couldn't maintain the accuracy over a broad scale. So if 377 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: you look at a steam whistle, it's always higher to 378 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the high end. It's a number that before it got there, 379 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: it usually exploded anyway. But they were trying to maintain 380 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: accuracy in the middle of the range and leave it 381 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: to be something from a hundred and fifty years ago. 382 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: Answered a question today here and now, speaking of answering 383 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: questions here and now, let's get over line to let's 384 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: go talk to Chuck in Kate, Texas. Chuck, what's the 385 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: weather like in Texas today? Welcome on board to the 386 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: car doctor sir. Oh, thank you, Ron, thank you for 387 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: taking my call. What what's what's the temperature? How long 388 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: you show you You're you're just awesome. Thanks, Chuck. What's 389 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: what's the weather like down there today? And miserable and 390 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: rainy and nasty. Let's see if we can get a 391 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: little sunshine to your day. What's your question? Kiddo, Uh what, 392 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: I've done everything that you've recommended for this U five 393 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: point for Triton, and everything's great, and she runs very smooth, 394 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: and I'm getting an average of four eight miles by 395 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: a Gallas. I know it's okay. Okay, However, I hit 396 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: an acceleration lane to go onto beltway or a highway. 397 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: We have a lot of them here, you know, we 398 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: don't always travel. How fast do they how fast do 399 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: they go in Texas average high belt wait highway about? Yeah, 400 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: it's because everything in Texas is just spread out right, 401 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: It's it's very big right anyway. My issue, my issue 402 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: is when I get under an acceleration lane. This is 403 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: already happen about a week ago. I'll take the accelerated 404 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: the full thrittle within a period of two seconds, but 405 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: to the point where there's your SIP linkages if you're 406 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna downshift, so I take it the full throttle and 407 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: she'll go and it's almost like it's like if you 408 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: had an IC chip and a race car for a 409 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: rev limitter. It's it's almost like getting every other cylinder 410 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: and it'll it'll get clean, it'll do it again. And 411 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: then when I findal let off, it'll go away. When 412 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: this is occurring. My check engine light is flashing and 413 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: then it goes off, and it's not it doesn't stay 414 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: lit after the incident or nothing, but it only flashes 415 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: when this is occurring. So I guess my proposed question 416 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: to you is, I'm gonna have to get a scanner 417 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: to find out what the code is that's in there 418 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: to really diagnose it further, because there's there's going to 419 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: be something in there as to why that check engine 420 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: light occurred. Do you ever think about how a computer 421 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: sets a fault code? Chuck? Yes, How do you think 422 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: it works? By it's almost like the definition of inchanty. 423 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: It does things stupid things twice well by definition. Think 424 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: of it like this. There's something in a modern vehicle 425 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: their software called mode six. All right, you've heard me 426 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: talk about it before. I know you're I know, we've 427 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: made you a regular listener to the show, and we 428 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: appreciate that Mode six is. I think of it as 429 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: the assembly language that the machine uses to determine, you know, 430 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: where it stands. A computer always has to be testing. 431 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't have the ability like a human being to 432 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: see or think, or touch or feel or smell. So 433 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Mode six is where it does it's testing and contained 434 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: within Mode six there are tids and sids test I 435 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: D S component I D S and tids and sids 436 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: make up the various tests that the computer does in 437 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: the Mode six software section to determine which component is 438 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: working and how well is it working. So you can 439 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: actually get an engine to misfire and buck and break up, 440 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: for example. And it may be, depending upon the parameters 441 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: by which the software is written, that it may not 442 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: store a code to the point to turn the check 443 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: engine light on, but I'll be there. In mode six, 444 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: you can actually with a proper scanner, you can actually 445 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: read Mode six pass fail pass pass pass fail, fail fail, 446 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: that kind of thing when it when a computer runs 447 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: its monitor or self test for each individual system, it 448 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: then decides, okay, you know what I'm watching for missfire. 449 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm watching for missfire. I'm watching for missfire. I saw 450 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: it skip, I saw it skip, I saw it skip. 451 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Whatever it's software says, whatever the parameters are, and how 452 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: hard it's got to look, and how many times it 453 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: is that repetitive test when it hits that ceiling bang, 454 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: check engine lights on and stores a hard code. So 455 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: in your case, it may not have turned the light 456 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: on full time yet because it hasn't occurred with enough frequency. 457 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be if you saw the light blink, 458 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: there'll be something in history as a pending fault. I'm sorry, 459 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: there'll be something in history, or there'll be something pending 460 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: as a fault, or there'll be something in mode six 461 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of the screen, so to speak. 462 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: And that's what you want to look at. So, yeah, 463 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna need a scant. Will take a look at that, 464 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of go from there. Now. I 465 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: know you did spark plugs. We talked about this a 466 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: couple of months back. I know you put plugs in this. 467 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Did you happen to change the coil boots or the coils? Okay? 468 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: And I don't think you were having a problem. Was 469 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: more maintenance at that point, right right, Okay, So I'm 470 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: not saying every time you do plugs, just automatically do 471 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: coils and boots unless it's a very high mileage vehicle, 472 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think yours is, is it? Yeah, that's 473 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: not a lot. That's not a lot. But you know, 474 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, if you've had a lot 475 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: of rain. If you've had a lot of moisture in 476 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks when the problem started, pay 477 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: attention to the back to cylinders on the ford pick 478 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: them up trucks. I see issues with water drain off 479 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the cowl and it will leak down onto the intake manifold, 480 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: it gets past that weather seal where the hood meets 481 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the back of the cow and water will drip down 482 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: onto the intake and then work its way into the 483 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: spark plug wells. You'll find a misfire. You'll pull the 484 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: boot out, it's soaked with water, blow the water out 485 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: and the problem goes away. Just something to be aware of. 486 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, get a scan tool and then we'll talk 487 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: about it after you get a code. Right on, right on. 488 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: But I appreciate that. But like I said, just just 489 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, make sure run point when this action is occurring. 490 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's almost like a red limited chip 491 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: in a race car. When it hits, it's every other 492 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: children and that life continually flashes during that occasion, right, 493 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: because ourring right, because that's that's the point at which 494 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: the misfires occurring. Then when the misfire occurs, the engine 495 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: starts to shut down because it's trying to prevent damage 496 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: to the catalytic converter. Okay, so that closing run, what 497 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: would you recommend I get for a scan tool? Take 498 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: a look at the c r P one nine. What's 499 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: my budget, Chucky? How much money do I have to spend? Okay, 500 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: take a look at the new Launch tool. Gosh, I 501 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: can't remember the I can't remember the model number. I'll 502 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: look up the model number. We'll talk about it either 503 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: later this hour or next hour, or if you send 504 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: me an email, I'll send you information. But Launch just 505 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: came out with a droid based version of their scan tools. 506 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: It's the latest and greatest. I think it's got a 507 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: street price in the eight nine dollar range, and it's 508 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: an awful lot of tool for the money. Um, you know, 509 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: if we didn't want to go that high, either the 510 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: CRP one or the one twenty three. But I don't know. 511 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: The Mode six capability is as good as some of 512 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: their higher end models. I like their stuff. Uh. You know, 513 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: if you can find an older o TC Genesis on eBay, 514 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: there's some great Mode six capability there. Because I think 515 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to go buy a Genesis for as a do it yourselfer, 516 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find street price in the thirty 517 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: thousand dollar range, and I think that's just overkill. I 518 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: think a thousand bucks or less is probably where you 519 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: want to be for a do it yourselfer. Um, you know, 520 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: so between those two, those are the first two that 521 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: come to mind. And don't be afraid to take a 522 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: look at eBay and send me an email and say, hey, Ron, 523 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: what do you think of this? What do you think 524 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: of that? Because you know you'll find a repair shop. 525 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: A good repair shop is always upgrading their tools, and 526 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: sometimes they get rid of their older stuff and sometimes 527 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of life left and older tools 528 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: that will do a lot of things for a weekend 529 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: warrior that are a professional shop just can't use anymore. 530 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: They need something latest and greatest. And I safe enough 531 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: to go to like an auto zone and throw the 532 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: guy ten bucks and put the computer on it and 533 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: see what it reads. Yeah you could, but you know what, 534 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: you're the kind of guy You're not gonna be happy 535 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: with that. You're gonna want to scantl I know how 536 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: you are from our conversation. All right, brother, Well, thank 537 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: you so much for taking the car Rod, you have 538 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: the greatest show. I tell you your spot on everything 539 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: you tell me. Thanks Chuck, we appreciate it. And and 540 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: good luck to you down there and you sailor everybody 541 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: in Texas. Waite car doctor get down there. One day 542 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: we'll go see if we can do a hundred twenty 543 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: on the highway. Probably not for long. So let's wander 544 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: over and talk to Eric and Sebago main and some 545 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: questions about oh yeah, oh no, okay, I'm sorry. I apologize. Eric. 546 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what state put. I didn't catch the clock. Um, 547 00:29:40,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: we'll be back right after this. Quick, quick, let's get 548 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: back on Eric, because I can see Tom's dancing in 549 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the studio. Hi, Ron and any of the car doctor. 550 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Let's keep this show uh at a family value level. 551 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Eric from Tobago may and Eric, are you there, sir? 552 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: I apologize for that. I got caught up in the moment. 553 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: How can I help you? I am looking to get 554 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: an older Volvo x C seventy beat around more or 555 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: less looking at maybe oh two to five and what 556 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: they seem to have is a hundred and fifty two 557 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand miles. And I hear good things 558 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: about him. I've never had a car. I've always had trucks. 559 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: But except for lately the price of fuel, you know 560 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: what that's doing. But um, any reason why you would 561 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: singularly pick out a Volvo that your that your range 562 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: and models and so forth THEREK. I like the way 563 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: they look. I think they're handsome cars. And uh that's 564 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: not a very smart thing maybe to do. But I 565 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: have a good things about them. And I just wondered 566 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: what you know you've seen in the shop. And I've 567 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: heard issues off about the oil drive distribution can be 568 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: a problem in eve one Volvo. Volvo as a car 569 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: line is is a great car line if you have 570 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: the checkbook to go with it. All right, Um, I 571 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: was saying, I was saying to the boys when your 572 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: call came up on the screen during the break. You know, 573 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: we've got a customer with an oh three x C 574 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: seventy wagon and Reye had the car since new. We've 575 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: worked on it since new. And if the average car 576 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: after it's three years old is twelve hundred a year, 577 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: this car has grown to three grand thirty a year 578 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: in the last four years. It's it's just been a fortune. Uh, 579 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, coil springs, rear shocks. We just had a 580 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: recent issue fuel pump. We've had problems with a B S. 581 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: We've had problems with the evap Matter of fact, the 582 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: one that just put it over the edge was the 583 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: evaporative emission fault that requires half the exhaust system to 584 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: be pulled down for it to be replaced. And it's 585 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: a thousand dollar repair and at a hundred thousand miles, 586 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: are just gonna get rid of the car because they're 587 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: just done. They're just tired of dealing with the expense. 588 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Uh you know, safe car. Yeah, things built like a tank, 589 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: but it comes at a price. And and I don't know, 590 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to discredit the car line. 591 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you know what, you hit the nail 592 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: on the head. You like the car, look you think 593 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you think it's a sharp looking car. You know what 594 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: always buy something you like is when it breaks, you 595 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: don't mind fixing it. It's just you know, um, you 596 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: gotta have the checkbook to go with it. Buying a 597 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of them have you know, the front struts down 598 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: and the front bearings and stuff. I guess are they 599 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: non serviceful bearings? Like everybody's gone to Uh. Yeah, and 600 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: you know everything is modular and everything just gets very expensive. Now. 601 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: By the same token, the other issue with Volvo is 602 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: that as you get into the emission control systems and 603 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: the onboard computers you've got, you've got to have dealer 604 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: level capability. You've got to have a very very very 605 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: good aftermarket scan tool, or you've got to have dealer 606 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: level tool in order to deal with that car, and 607 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: it gets to be pricey. So, you know, the first 608 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: half of the conversation is are there any issues. Yeah, 609 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: it's typical stuff, it's high mileage, it's older cars. Uh, 610 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, is it worth it? Yeah, it's it's worth 611 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: it if you've got the checkbook. And from that perspective, 612 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a down and dirty, four thousand 613 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: dollar beat or something to drive when you don't want 614 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: to drive the truck, or or you know, something you 615 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: want to go out to dinner in other than the truck, 616 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: you know what, start looking at an older Toyota, Honda 617 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: for GM, something along those lines. Let me know what 618 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: you fall in love with there, and then give me 619 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: a call back. I appreciate the call. Eric. I'm Ronanindy 620 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: in the car Doctor we're back right after this sn 621 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: real lad yellow Landy, time to stand out on it. 622 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back on a nading of the car. Doctor. Let's 623 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: real quick sneak and one more Boris Ramsey, New Jersey. 624 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Boris Irn, I've got a minute and a half. What's up? Yeah, 625 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: I have at Okay, what kind of vehicle is this, Boris? 626 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: It's a range miles just broken in. Listen to the 627 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: shop trucks at ninety seven Ranger V six five speed 628 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: uh West philometer stuck like in mid range. Yes, okay, 629 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: it's it's not a it's it's not that it needs 630 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: a new speed. Oh it may I doubt it. Um, 631 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: what you've got to do is have the cluster pulled 632 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: and taken to a spenometer cluster repair facility. Now you're 633 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: in Ramsey, New Jersey. I can tell you you're fortunate. 634 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: There's a place in Elmwood Park, New Jersey, Eastern Electronics. 635 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: They're out on the web at Eastern Electronics dot Us. 636 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: The gentleman's name is THEO. He's been there for years 637 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: and years and years. We use him at the shop. 638 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: He works very well. Um. He repaired the spendometer in 639 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: the shop Ranger two years ago for pretty much the 640 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: same problem. Um, it was a couple of bucks, it 641 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible, and it didn't require the unit to be 642 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, completely replaced. He was able to repair it. 643 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: So I would tell you to, uh, you know, get 644 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: the cluster pulled, give him a call, and um, you 645 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: know you can kind of go from there. Uh. If 646 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: you get out to the web, go out the Eastern 647 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: Electronics dot us, you will see that he has an 648 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: eight hundred phone number. Thanks. I appreciate the call. Boris boy. 649 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: This hour kind of flew by. Hey, what about the 650 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: diesel g with them wouldn't start and what was the 651 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: missing part? I'm gonna have to tell you about that 652 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: in another hour. I'll tell you about that in the 653 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: next hour, because there's another hour the car doctor is 654 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: still to come. Until then, I'm ronin ay in the 655 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: car doctor, reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 656 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: Let se