WEBVTT - Fast Politics Episode_638 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.039 today's best minds, and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche says, 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.480 I love working for President Trump. It's the greatest honor 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.680 of a lifetime. And if President Trump chooses to nominate 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.240 somebody else and asks me to go do something else, 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.599 I'll say thank you very much. I love you, sir. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.440 We have such a great show for you today. As 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.320 the world churns Andy Levy stops by to talk about 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.520 Maga's anger at Trump over the chaos of the Iran War. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.040 Then we'll talk to Democracy forward Sky Perriman about how 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.320 they are pushing back against the Trump agenda. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.800 But first the news, Molly, another beautiful night of seeing 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.519 Democrats outperform insane numbers no one would expect against Republicans 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.920 in these special elections and in the primaries. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.560 Yeah, so here's what's going on. Donald Trump is on 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.400 the ticket, and even when he's not on the ticket, 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.399 he's on the ticket, and so we're seeing these kind 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:11.280 of insane like democrats are winning. The great example is 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.800 Marjorie Taylor Green give a per seat in Rome, Georgia 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.360 that is a seat she won. I don't know, is 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.280 it twenty eight points? I mean some crazy, crazy number. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.760 Trump won Marjorie Taylor Green's district by thirty seven points. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.240 So now here we are and it's you know, not 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:35.480 even two years later, and this is a seat now 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.840 that the Democrat, I mean the Democrat lost, but not 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.280 by thirty eight points, just by twelve points. So it's 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.680 a real if you think about that's like a twenty 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:50.200 point little more than twenty point shift. That's crazy. That's 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.120 what we're seeing around the country. That's what we're seeing everywhere, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.480 and so that's what we're seeing in Wisconsin. So Wisconsin, 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.800 this is the state Supreme Court race. Remember we had 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.440 a lot of these people on this podcast because it 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.240 was a very tight Wisconsin Supreme Court. You know, it's 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.640 an elected judgeship, and we had been back and forth 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.320 on this and Democrats were running. It was really tight. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.280 There was going to be a majority, a Republican majority. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.840 Democrats flipped it, and now it's about to be a 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.600 Democratic majority. And this is a state, Wisconsin, that is 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:30.200 really one of the most sort of evenly split states. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.079 And if you think about it, it's like the governor 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.920 is a guy Tony Ivers, who is just a sort 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.560 of really nondescript He's a Democrat, but you might not know, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.160 you know, he's a very sort of nondescript white guy 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.680 and he barely won. Realize, you know, this is a 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:55.079 really like if you're if the voters of Wisconsin are 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.760 saying this, then the voters of Texas and California and 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.920 this is the Canarian the coal mine. So this is 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.000 what we're seeing and we're going to see more of this, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.520 and good because Donald Trump is a complete lunatic and 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:09.840 no one is running a check on it. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.560 Yeah, and you know, a thing that you really pointed 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.360 out well was how much in the midterms last time 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.520 to remind people that people said that like these three 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.400 point or four point spreads are not worth sinking our 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.320 money into, and people didn't donate to these candidates and 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.600 then they'd lose by a point because of all the 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.520 voter enthusiasm, and we could have not had Senator Ron 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.840 Johnson was something you pointed out that was really astute 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.080 if we had just not felt like the cook PVI 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.080 is what it was in the midterms and things like that, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.240 and we got to see right now that there is huge, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.760 huge possibilities to flip a lot of these seats. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.760 So we really really got to go. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.760 In huge and Mandela Barnes. Let me tell you about 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.000 Mandela Barnes, who was running a Wisconsin for that senate seed. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.000 I was told by even very smart white guys that 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.480 was too much to hope that Wisconsin would not elect 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.720 a black senator. FYI he lost by like one point. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.080 Yeah, I'm so small. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.400 Run and on just borned money into that race. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.200 Important money into junk polls. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:17.080 Right exactly, And so you know, the Democrats abandoned Mandela Barns. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.039 That would have been a really easy pickup. It's such 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.640 a good example of like why it's what Mandilipman says, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.080 you have to run everywhere, and especially in a landscape 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:32.680 like this where Republicans are getting significant headwinds, and it 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.560 just is just a moment where Democrats need to run 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.640 at every seat because the thing is like we all 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.320 know there will be a time, and I know it 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.039 feels like it's not true. Okay, I'm gonna tell a 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.880 story here. So last night I went to a dinner 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.560 with people who are working on safeguarding democracy, and there's 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.560 lawyers and judges and all sorts of things. And the 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.120 most important thing is, first of all, the elections are 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.160 not run by the federal government. They are decentralized. So 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.640 everyone needs to stop thinking they're going to cancel the elections. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.120 There is no there. They cannot do that. Okay, will 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.760 Donald Trump try to do a lot of who we undoubtedly, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.039 but we all need to be sane and not panic 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.160 until it's time to panic, because if everyone is at 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.719 eleven right now, then when we really need to be 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.600 at eleven, we're going to miss it. And so what 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.440 I'm here to tell you is there are a lot 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.680 of people trying to keep your elections safe and secure. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.120 There are a lot of lawyers and a lot of 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.600 democracy watchers, and a lot of people focused on making 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.200 sure that your vote is counted, that it is free 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.880 and fair. So we all have to do our part 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.839 by knowing that we're going to have free and fair 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.160 elections and just making sure that we show up and 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.480 we register voters and we do all of these important 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.480 democratic works. And I really there are some people who 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.440 are resistance heroes who are saying things like Trump's going 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.960 to cancel the election, and you need to tell those 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:13.880 people no, because it is voter suppression to six months 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.200 before the election believe that Donald Trump has a power 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.560 to unilaterally cancel the elections. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.200 Yeah, we need people realizing we got to get out 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.400 on the streets and not fearing the miasma of that 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.320 there might be doom coming. These voices who are saying 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.440 that's got to really knock this off because conjecture right. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.400 And also just remember the people who are saying that 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.240 are incentivized for you to be scared to get clicks. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.360 Okay, Molly, that is very important. I really appreciate it. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.640 So pap body is going to try to dodge talking 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.520 about Epstein in front of Congress. Congress is saying fuck off. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.839 Nancy Mace Everyone's faith. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.599 You may know her as a complete lunative. Again, we 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.800 have these moments in this podcast in America politics, at 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:05.240 this moment where a Nancy Mays or a Thomas Massey 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.440 or a Alex Jones, this is the case, maybe might 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.760 be saying the right things, might be saying things we 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.040 agree with, but we can still know that they are 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:20.120 complete lunatics. That said, Nancy Mays wrote conna subpoena bondi 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.760 or they wrote a letter to Bondi saying she still 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.119 has to testify. Todd Bland said, no, here's the deal. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.400 And this goes back to what we were just saying 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.000 before about elections. All of this happens if people make 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.360 it happen. BONDI will testify if she's forced to testify, right, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:41.239 like Christy Noam was the Homeland Security Secretary until she wasn't. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.640 So everyone needs to push really hard and make sure 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.000 things happen the way they're supposed to and the way 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.600 they're legally supposed to. I mean, Rocanna has been really interesting. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.000 It has been a really interesting voice in all of 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.160 this because what he's doing and again, and I think 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.240 the model is Robert Garcia, but what they're doing is 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.960 that they are just not being polite. They are just 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.880 pushing and pushing and pushing. I want to add something else. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.720 We have eighty I think it's even more than members 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.760 of Congress that are now pro impeachment of Trump. Again, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.960 now remember Democrats don't control the House, but we have 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.840 like about eighty Democrats who are now pro impeachment and 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.240 have signed on to an impeachment thing. And this is 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.120 AOC and Maxwell Frost and Robert Garcia and Sarah McBride 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.760 and Rashida Talib and Rocanna. So here I want to 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.760 talk about this because it's important. Nancy Pelosi is the 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.640 person driving this, or at least is the person getting 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.160 credit for driving it. So it's more than fifty House Democrats. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.240 I think it's at sixty now Marquy Ron Wyden are 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.600 to senators who've also followed along with that. Why this 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.960 is smart. Nancy Pelosi is almost done serving in Congress, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.920 so she's doing something here where this is good for 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.200 her because she then becomes a hero to the base, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.360 doesn't need to run for reelection, doesn't have to make 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:15.280 deals with Republicans. Now, Norday leader Hakim can pretend he 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.760 didn't know anything about it. Maybe he didn't know anything 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.600 about it, but it's just a very smart way to 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.120 do it. Look, is Donald Trump going to get impeached? 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.480 Not until Democrats flipped the House. But yesterday was an 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.720 insane day. And if ever there were a moment that 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:35.280 Donald Trump should be impeached, that America really knew they 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.920 were being run by a mad king, it was yes 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.280 Andy Levy is the host of As the World churns 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.320 Andy Andy Well I have been saying this for a while, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.600 but I think yesterday was or yesterday, whatever day it is, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:58.120 it's we are recording this on Wednesday and Tuesday. Donald 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:03.400 Trump's threatened to base basically genocide, I mean, not really genocide, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:10.560 just sort of level an entire entree because not entirely 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:16.680 clear why. And so he in the morning I went 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:21.040 to do Morning Joe, and we're there and like, looking 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.160 at this tweet, that's like, you know, I might just 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:28.160 just wipe this civilization from the face of the earth, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.880 because I can thank you for your attention to this matter, 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.080 Donald J. Trump. What I didn't know is that I 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.320 actually think that that was a day. It was like 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.720 the day that Donald Trump said, like we put the 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.560 light inside the body and it kills the COVID. Remember that, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.800 Like it was like one of those days where everyone went, oh, right, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.960 he's nuts. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.640 Yeah, no, I thought, that's right. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.000 I mean, for the for the people who somehow, you know, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.200 I don't know, ten years into this shit, haven't remembered 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.800 that or figured it out yet. But you know, you said, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.199 you're you aren't really sure why he said that. I 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.360 think I'm pretty sure why he said that. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.560 Because we're losing. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.720 Yeah, yeah, and that's what you do when you're losing, 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.960 particularly if you're losing and you have nuclear weapons, you. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.520 Say stuff like that if you're a psychopath. On top 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:17.880 of all that. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.320 And what happened almost immediately was we saw so Tucker 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.400 as soon as Donald Trump launched this thing. And again, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.200 no one has to hand it to Tucker, right, No 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.360 one has to hand it to Techer. You knew him 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.200 and his anti war stuff is very wrapped up in 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.960 anti Semitism, anti Israel, anti this, anti that. So no 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.680 one is handing it to Tucker Callson. But he has 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.559 been staunchly anti Iran Moore, maybe because he's anti war, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.040 maybe because he's anti Semitic, maybe both. Yesterday we saw 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:56.160 Alex Jones driving in his car, I don't know why 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.839 he couldn't pull over, saying we need to do the 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.040 twenty fifth Amendment, which of course means getting rid of 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.840 the president. These are two of the people who made 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.079 him the nominee in twenty sixteen. Right, it is hard 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.599 to think of two people who are more responsible for 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.760 Donald Trump winning the nomination than Alex Jones. Remember, Donald 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.520 Trump went on Alex's Jones's show when he was the 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.080 very fringiest French and Tucker Carlson. Remember Donald Trump went 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.440 on Tucker Carlson Show when he was the very most 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:30.400 the most sort of mainstreamy MAGA you know Fox News host. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.079 Yeah, I think the reason Alex Jones couldn't pull over 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:34.960 is he was afraid his car was going to get 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.920 repossessed if they caught up to him. But yes, I 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.240 know a lot of the MAGA people who are public 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.240 facing are not happy with the Iran war, you. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.520 Know, the cheerleaders that Fox Aside. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.280 My only feeling is I don't know if that translates 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.319 to the rank and file MAGA. The polling I've seen 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.200 shows that they're okay with the Iran war, and because 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.480 they're not as much ideological as they are just you know, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.120 in a cult, in a cult, so if Trump does it, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.120 it must be right. But okay, putting that aside, yeah, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.319 I mean, we are definitely seeing. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.600 A huge split. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.160 Is I guess would be putting it maybe kindly, but 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:16.280 I think accurately. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:21.679 And yesterday Tuesday, there was this one voice that was 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.760 still defending him or had I mean, besides Ben Shapiro, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.640 who has gotten creamed partially probably because of anti Semitism, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.319 but also because he's staunchly pro Israel and thus staunchly 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.360 pro this war, and his numbers are just going down. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.800 He's hemorrhaging viewers. MAGA turns out, Maga does not have 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.880 a huge appetite for whatever that is. But one of 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.040 his last defenders was Megan Kelly, and Jesse is going 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.360 to play us a clip of where Megan Kelly is 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.120 right now. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:53.520 Now. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.800 As you can imagine, that post did not go overwell 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.520 with the Iraniance or with many Americans. I mean, I 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.760 don't know about you, but I am sick of this shit. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.840 I'm just I'm sick of it. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:07.560 Can't he just. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.280 Behave like a normal human? I mean, honestly like the 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:16.440 President three and eight. Yes, shut up, fucking shut up 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.240 about that shit. You don't threaten to wipe out an 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:26.480 entire civilization. We're talking about civilians, just casually in a 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.600 social media post go Andy as someone who knows her. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.360 Yeah, well, just the idea. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.760 This isn't even like, you know, the sort of famous. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.920 I can't believe the leopard date my face, the leopard 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.880 ate her face like she's she was the original, you know, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.560 blood coming out of her or wherever, and she's sitting 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.320 there going, why is why can't he not be like this? 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.520 You know, eleven years later, we're twelve whatever, however many 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.680 years ago that was. I mean, that's just insane. But 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.440 I will say this, Megan Kelly does have her finger 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:04.000 on the pulse of the assholes. And you know, if 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.600 she's out there saying this, because look, I don't believe 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.160 that Megan Kelly really has a set of core beliefs 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.120 at this point. So if she's out there saying this stuff, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.280 she sees which way the winds are blowing, and she's 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.440 very good at that. You know you can't deny that. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.600 So you know, again, I think the magabase is fine 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.880 with Iran. The Magabase is never gonna not be fine 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.520 with Trump. It's the people who aren't the Magabase but 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.240 who voted for Trump. Those are the ones you gotta 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:33.800 get see. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.600 And I disagree, okay, And I'm gonna push back. And 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.720 now I could be wrong, wrong, Molly. I know you're 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.200 gonna be shocked to hear this, but I had been 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.800 wrong before. So remember, part of what happened with Trump 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:52.760 in twenty twenty was that he lost He lost the Indies, right, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.680 the normal people, the people who are like I don't 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.880 like the tweets, I don't like the racism, but I 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.000 really want a tax ted. So I'm going to whle 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.240 my nose at both him. This is not that, this 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.880 is the pure Maga. This is the royers. This is 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:12.120 the young men who like racism. And here's my take, Okay, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.720 I think that Tucker and Alex Jones and Megan Kelly 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.240 are not reflecting their own views. They're reflecting the views 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.480 of their people. They're on the Internet seeing their people, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.560 and their people are saying like, we don't We're not 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.680 into this, and so this about face, it's a real 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.800 split in the core of maga that you really have 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.320 because remember, like if you think about it, if you 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.080 look at Ben Shapiro and you see that he is 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.920 just hemorrhaging viewers, listeners, whatever it is he has. So 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.160 part of that can could be anti Semitism for sure, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.280 because he's very but some of that has to be 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.640 anti war stuff, right because he has been a just 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.120 a continual voice for the war, and so these people 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.959 are learning that lesson. I mean, I'm reminded of like 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.639 when we saw I mean, we've seen phenomenons like this 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:16.679 where YouTubers are sort of on you know, their popularity 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.760 hinges on what they go along with or don't. I 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.280 think that this is I think this may actually really 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.439 be a canary in the coolen. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.080 A couple of things. One, it's not that I completely 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:27.720 disagree with you. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.480 I was saying, more like, just from an electoral perspective, right, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.920 the pure MAGA people you know, are probably voting for 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.480 jd Vance or whoever in twenty eight But it's the 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.560 not pure MAGA people who are looking around now and saying, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.400 you know, it's the ones who, for instance, keep saying, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:46.879 this is not what I voted for, even though it's 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:47.520 what they voted for. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:48.560 Right right. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.600 Fun you know, you go get a poll, do you 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.360 oppose or support the war with Iran? Maga Republicans support 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.160 it seventy seven percent to. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.679 Forteen right true. Okay, So that's where. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.879 I would push back on. I'm saying that it's like, 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:10.320 you know, MAGA as a block is not happy. They 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.560 may not be happy with how it's being prosecuted, but 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.840 they're not opposed to the war because Donald Trump is 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.720 doing it and you know, in Trump we trust. So 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:25.560 that's my only that that that's my pushback on that there. Yeah, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.840 but I agree with you again the forward facing MAGA 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.240 people who are influential, and and the fact that seventy 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.359 seven percent number doesn't have to be there forever. You know, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.840 if if the Megan Kelly's and the Tuckers and the 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.640 Alex Joneses and the you know, I don't think Tim 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.000 Poole is on that list. 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.200 Is timpole still. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.920 I think I think he's basically going around saying we won. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.119 What I would say is he's hitely skeptical occasionally, but 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.480 mostly in on mister Trump's plague three D trust exactly. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.480 We don't want my interjection and so feel free to 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:02.399 do your analysis. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.280 Why can't we have your interjection? And are you not 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.520 supposed to exist? I mean people know you. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.480 Exist, Jesse as the Wizard of Oz. They're not happy 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.080 about it, but they know, no, I. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:18.719 Mean, they know they know the guy that's right every time. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.399 But yes, I do think it's an impossible situation for 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.320 them because they have to you know, they got where 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:30.359 they are defending the indefensible right, but now the indefensible 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.520 doesn't track with America first right. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.000 I do think again, not to hand it to him 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.879 in the slightest bit. I do think Tucker Carson is 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.560 legitimately quote unquote anti war, and I do think that 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.880 he would be if even if we were winning this war, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.320 I think he would be opposed to it. I don't 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.600 feel that way about Megan Kelly or or some of 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.080 the other people that you've mentioned. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.960 By the way, is this the fastests we've ever lost 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.240 a war in our history? 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.320 Well, it was always this war was always like we're 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.240 going to war and you said why and they said 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.040 because nukes. Well do they have nukes? No? Could Could 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.600 they have nukes? Maybe in two weeks? Maybe not, Maybe 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.040 they have them, maybe they're a week away. I mean, like, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.120 you know, there was like literally no effort to sell 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:26.159 the war, even w Right, even Wa even his dad, 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.439 Like there was a sort of like it was, you 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.760 know what, there's a threat, there's this you know. I 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.760 mean I remember after nine to eleven when they were like, 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.400 we're going to go into Afghanistan, and I was like, Afghanistan, 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.000 but none of the hijackers come from Afghanistan. Oh, you 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.200 can't go into Saudi Arabias, so we're gonna go. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.320 Into Afghanistan, right, But it didn't. 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.879 Make any sense. But at least there was you know, 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.840 it was nine to eleven. We were all super traumatized, 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.800 you know, at least right exactly, we at least they 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.560 were trying to make the But it was I mean, 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.920 it still was a moment where I was like, but Afghanistan, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.479 why Afghanist? Like it didn't make any sense. 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.560 But but yeah, like I didn't even hear about yellow 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:10.280 Cake this time. 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.480 Around, all right, yellow Cake? Yeah, well there was definitely 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.639 last time that was it felt like a real threat. 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.639 This just feels like he's trying to descrive from the 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.280 Epstein Files. And it really does feel at the end 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.040 of the day, like, you know, people say that's such 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:31.280 a that's such a like that. The dad says sort 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.639 of not, you know, it's a it's a simplistic take 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:39.119 on Donald Trump, but it may actually be true. 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.800 I'm sort of it in the simplistic take group. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.880 Yeah, it might be part of it. I'm not saying 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.800 it's not part of it. I don't think it's the 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.359 whole reason. I don't think he's sitting there going I 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.200 got to do something to distract from the Epstein files. 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:56.320 I'm going to bomb you around. 0:21:56.359 --> 0:22:00.280 It's something he wanted to do, and and to me, 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.160 he did it because he was convinced that there would 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:08.160 be financial gain from it. Yeah, and you know, and 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.520 it's turning out to be, of course, exactly the opposite. 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.159 Although he is claiming that we are somehow going to 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:14.639 make money off tolls. 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:15.760 In the Strait of Hormuz. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.760 I really don't think that's gonna happen. 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:25.679 But you know, my favorite part of the whole thing 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:31.400 is that he's like, straights were clear, right, we went 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.480 to war, straits are not clear. Donald Trump's like, we're 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:35.399 going to make money on this. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:36.720 Yeah. 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.360 Yeah, I mean, look, it's you know, you can sit 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.280 there and try to parse his language and try to 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.159 analyze everything he says, and then you just at a 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:46.959